User talk:Illegitimate Barrister/Archive 2

Hundreds of edit to the same article a day

Hi Illegitimate Barrister!

I've noticed that you made a lot of small changes every few minutes to some articles, for example Confederate States Army. It can make tracking history a bit harder, one needs to skip few history pages to get to the state of the article two month ago.

Is there a reason to do it like that?

--Fractalizator (talk) 19:53, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Personal preference. MOS says that some Wikipedians like to do incremental edits rather than just do it all at once. I'm of the former. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 01:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Stand by

Stand by, I may need your help in downloading a couple of pictures for an article that another editor is involved in rewriting. The editor is a WWII Navy veteran and he does real well with the editorship, but on some of the technical stuff he is asking for help. You know my problems with downloads...you are my download go-to guy... LOL. I'll see how this goes...stand by... Cuprum17 (talk) 13:51, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Roger that, Charlie-One-Seven. India-Bravo-Actual is standing by to copy. Send traffic. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 22:31, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I expect to hear from my man in the next 24 hours... Cuprum17 (talk) 00:50, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Solid copy. Expecting message in next two-four hours. Out. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 01:35, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Links are on my talk page under subject "SPARS article, again". See what you can do about doing the pictures up right, if they are fair use or government copy. I have no idea where in the SPARS article that Pendright intends to use them. If you need to discuss that with him, go for it. Thanks, IB. Cuprum17 (talk) 12:55, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

@Cuprum17: Aye-aye, chief. Which pics do you need? Do you need all the pictures from the links? As for copyright, the pictures are probably free and in public domain since they're hosted on DoD website. Check here for the pics. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 05:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't know. Contact Pendright and he can describe what picture he would need downloaded. Thanks for the stand-by and help.Cuprum17 (talk) 15:28, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

One of the pictures you need to download relates to the Biltmore Hotel at link http://greatlakes.coastguard.dodlive.mil/2013/08/spar-parachutes-into-coast-guard-world-war-ii-on-her-cgs-birthday/ and the other picture is the top one at link http://coastguard.dodlive.mil/2009/08/coast-guard-history-spars/ Pendright was supposed to contact you directly but I think I got my wires crossed and forgot to tell him... doh! Thanks for your assistance! Cuprum17 (talk) 13:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Pics have been added! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 14:27, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Mission accomplished! Bravo Zulu!!! Cuprum17 (talk) 16:00, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Roger that, returning to base. Out. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 18:41, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the great job you did with the SPARS images. They worked out perfectly. And thanks too for helping me out. I hope one day I can do a good deed for you. Pendright (talk) 21:31, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

@Pendright: You're welcome, sir! The pleasure was all mine! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 04:22, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Take a bow, IB

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For downloading images, copyedit work, and general improvements on the Wikipedia article SPARS I hereby award you The Teamwork Barnstar along with my sincere thanks for helping improve yet another U.S. Coast Guard related article. Semper Paratus! Cuprum17 (talk) 00:56, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

@Cuprum17: Thank you, thank you! You're too kind! I've been having somewhat of an off day, so a barnstar helps raise my good spirits. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk), 04:22, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution

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Thumbnails of non-free images

Please see WP:IMAGERES. This covers that the resolution guidelines apply to the actual image itself, and that the images inclusion in the article should follow MOS guidelines, including default thumbnail sizes. -- ferret (talk) 15:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

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County of Montgomery

Hi there,

I just saw your latest edit to Montgomery County, Maryland—one of many edits in the past, so thanks for that.

However, the source that you provided for the "County of Montgomery" name doesn't verify your claim—that it's the county's "official" name. It just goes to a search page. The source only verifies that the term is sometimes used, not that it's official (plus, I might also argue that a search page doesn't meet the standards of WP:RS).

I changed the wording in the lede to reflect the source, but feel free to restore your original wording if you find a better reference.

Cheers, acomas (talk) 12:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Pace the liberties you have on your own TP

But was this really necessary? _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 09:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't see how or what I edit on my own page has to concern with you. But, relax. It was just a joke. I was wondering if anybody would say anything about it and it looks like they did. But, I was being facetious. No hard feelings, just a joke. 'Twas all in jest. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:12, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

No worries! Just that it seemed such a small alteration- background parameters!- to go mad over. Glad I misunderstood. Cheers! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 10:15, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I know it was just a mass bot edit. Again, just a joke. Take care! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:15, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

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June 2016

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Canada. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Hardly an edit war. No reverts have been made. Talk about overreacting! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

June 2016

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The shield ain't copyrighted. It's from 1957. Crown copyright expired in 2007. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:30, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Belgium

I'm bemused why you seem to be intent on changing the template for the German flag on Battle of Belgium. I mean, why? Your changes just increase the amount of coding (increasing the size of the article and the difficulty for new users to edit). If there is a tangible advantage to your change, please let me know. Your edit summaries have been less than useful in explaining! —Brigade Piron (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

No, if you look, my edit decreased the size of the page by 6. YOU want to make it bigger. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for your edit...

...now, how about a Bio infobox for Clarence to include a photo of him? I was going to ask you to help with that anyway. I still have some work to do on the article, but I am sidetracked now with the jeep restoration. Thanks... Cuprum17 (talk) 22:28, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

@Cuprum17: It's done! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:31, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Long Binh

Been there, done that! The olive drab T-shirt is long worn out... Fifty years ago in September 1966, I was at Long Binh and served less than five miles from there at Bien Hoa for 26 months while doing photographic work for the 1st Military Intelligence Battalion. Damn, I'm getting old! Thanks for the edit. Cuprum17 (talk) 22:39, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Your edit to Chinese Taipei

Why have you inserted a full-stop in the middle of that sentence? I tried to revert your edit, but you restored it. Phlar (talk) 05:42, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

@Phlar: Oops, that was a mistake. You were right; my apologies. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

No worries. Phlar (talk) 17:46, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

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BLP

Hi, I've had to take Jessica Camacho back to a stub because it was based on primary sources and one low-quality source, and it included three of her addresses, as well as her weight and height. Much of the article was about an arrest. Please review the BLP policy, particularly WP:BLPPRIMARY.

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Flag change destroyed countless articles

Your edits to Template:Country data Germany destroyed the icons to countless articles. These articles uses Nazi, Weimar, empire, etc... you changed them to dates and none of them work. You MUST either revert your edits, OR make sure that the old versions also work. You can't just change it without affecting 100s or perhaps thousands of articles. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:18, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Which edit in particular? I will revert if you can point me to it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:58, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs),

Notable?

Hi! I noticed that you have done a lot of awesome work! I am really crushed for time, and would like to create an article but I feel you would do a much better job of it. Would you be interested in either writing or helping me to write an article?

I believe that this person is notable, and there is about to be a movie about her. Mary Jennings Hegar

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tristar-nabs-military-memoir-shoot-802446

Thanks again for being a great wikipedian! Fomeister (talk) 01:01, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

@Fomeister: Thanks for the props, yo. If I were you, I'd just go ahead and make the article. If somebody feels strongly enough that it isn't notable, then we'll deal with it then. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:50, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Russian Ground Forces

I'm sorry to have had to revert a bunch of your recent edits to this article, because there had been some attempted removal of content in the corruption section (c. 1171 bits) further up. My apologies for having to rollback your work. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 10:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

@Buckshot06: No worries, s'all good. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:35, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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Mexican F-5

Even the Mexican enthusiast are confused. The rumor started by a "reporter" from El Universal who wrote an opinion, stating that they were being retired. That statement was an opinion, which became a rumor that was taken as a fact and was copied by all other news outlets in Mexico and some international. The government stated that their engines are being overhauled and that the Mexican Air Force plans to continue operating the reminder F-5 the foreseeable future. That official statement is being ignored at large. By the way, in that same opinion piece, the reporter also stated that Mexico bought 2 dozen F-16 fighter jets, which was ridiculized extensively. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 15:06, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Template:Country data

Hello,

Please help me updating two Country data templates:

• Template:Country data Japan, please replace File:Flag of the Japan Air Self-Defense Force.png with File:Flag of the Japan Air Self-Defense Force.svg

• Template:Country data Thailand, Please add: File:Naval Jack of Thailand.svg, File:Royal Thai Navy Flag.svg, File:Flag of Thailand (Ayutthaya period).svg, File:Flag of Thailand (1782).svg, File:Flag of Thailand (1817).svg, File:State Flag of Thailand (1916).svg to the template.

Thank you, Sodacan (talk) 11:18, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Done. For the Thai Navy, I just created a new template since I couldn't conceive of a way to put it into the template fittingly. You can apply for template editing privileges if you want to. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 11:35, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! Sodacan (talk) 11:43, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Flag icons in infoboxes

Hi, IB. I see that you've been editing infoboxes, such as in Belmont Shore, Long Beach, California, in order to add flags to certain fields. Please note that the Manual of Style guidance is to not put flags into infoboxes, in general. See MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. Could you revert your edits? Thank you! —hike395 (talk) 03:50, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

@Hike395: Hello. In the very link you provided, it states that flagicons are okay for use in city infoboxes: "Human geographic articles – for example settlements and administrative subdivisions – may have flags [...] in infoboxes." – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:54, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Looks like the exception for settlements was added in 2012. However, in the article Belmont Shore, Long Beach, California, you've added county and city flags, which goes beyond the guidance of the MOS, which states (in the part that you elided, above) may have flags of the country and first-level administrative subdivision in infoboxes. Could you kindly remove the county and city flags? In the discussion that established the consensus for the flags guideline, the intent was to cap the number of flag icons to two. —hike395 (talk) 04:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

If I remove the city flag, then the text will be misaligned and thus look ugly and harder to read. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Flag of Prince George's County, Maryland

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Jawohl, Herr Eumerus! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:07, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

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Danke schoen, Herr Xaosflux! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Inglewood

Inglewood is part of Los Angeles's South Bay, and the article has reflected that for a long time. See Los Angeles County website, Inglewood website, and South Bay Cities Council of Governments website. I can cite sources if needed, although they are cited on the Inglewood page. In fact, the new Rams Stadium is going to reflect on the history of L.A.' South Bay :) Hope you're having a blessed day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.208.108.58 (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Uh, okay? Thanks for the info, I guess. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 15:00, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

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DYK nomination

Um, are you still interested in having Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Prince George's County, Maryland promoted? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:52, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hacked?

Has your account been hacked? Because otherwise this might be considered a personal attack.

File:Sammy Lee in You Bet Your Life 1950s.png

You removed the image without letting me know. Can we do the same fiasco as the image of Reg Grundy, File:Reg Grundy 20 September 2010.jpg. Why not use Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2016 May 21#File:Reg Grundy 20 September 2010.jpg, which closed as "no consensus", as precedent to this? --George Ho (talk) 23:21, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Your uploads (and deleted ones)

I don't know why you upload ones that are eventually deleted. However, you uploaded and then re-uploaded File:Infinite (1996), by Eminem.png, which I nominated for deletion. I want to notify you the simple way. However, from looking at your history logs, you "archived" messages without consideration of pinging me or something. Copyright is tricky, yet you interpret the matter as a simple issue gone wrong... unless I'm proven wrong. You and I may have disagreements about what is free or non-free. However, when we try to correct each other without much interaction, relations between us would worsen. When you made a note earlier before "archiving", I become concerned about how you would treat me and others. I don't want to be your enemy... not yet. I want your response. --George Ho (talk) 05:36, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

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Spread of anti-Korean sentiment in articles

Hello. On 5 April 2016, you added the following to the article Korean nationalism (diff):

According to Robert E. Kelly, a professor at Pusan National University, anti-Japanese racism in South Korea stems not just from Imperial Japanese atrocities during the colonial era, but from the Korean Peninsula's division. As most Koreans, north and south are racial nationalists, most South Koreans feel a kinship and racial solidarity with North Korea. Due to this perceived racial kinship, it is considered bad form for a South Korean to hate North Korea, to run the risk of being a race traitor. As a result, Kelly says, South Koreans take out the anger rising from Korean division against Japan. This view is supported by another professor, Brian Reynolds Myers.

Note that the original text doesn't mention anything like this. The closest would be "All Koreans, north and south, right and left, agree that the colonial take-over was bad." Also the sources you later added for Myers don't support this claims. This is clearly WP:V.

References

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --Christian140 (talk) 12:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

You're being discussed on ANI

I don't know if it was deliberate, but Christian140's mandatory notification was buried beneath a wall of text that looked like forum-shopping an article content dispute to your user talk page. I don't blame you for immediately blanking messages like that, but it seemed quite possible you hadn't noticed the most important part. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 14:05, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Quoi? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:13, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 22:46, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merci. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

List of submarines of the United States Navy

Just a note that I reverted a couple of your edits from August 4th on List of submarines of the United States Navy. The hull number for the USS Columbia will be SSBN-826 and I have adjusted the list accordingly. Safiel (talk) 22:48, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:58, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXXIX, January 2017

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A Specific BN's DUI versus the DIV's SSI?

Illegitimate Barrister, I'm taken aback by your edits to the U.S. military unit pages where you are replacing the main insignia of the unit with a specific Battalion's distinctive unit insignia (DUI). For example, on the 101st Airborne Division article you replaced the unit's shoulder sleeve insignia (SSI) that is worn by everyone in the division with a headquarters DUI. No other brigade or battalion within that division wear that specific DUI except the Division Headquarters and Headquarters Battalion. So the insignia you have now made as the prominent/primary symbol of the entire division does not represent 90% of that unit. The only common insignia used/worn by all those assigned to that division is the SSI. --Granted, the retirement of the old Class A Uniform has left the color version of their SSI relegated to the Combat Service Identification Badge (CSIB) version of their SSI; but only those that serve with that division in a combat zone get to earn that badge, so it too does not represent the entire division either.-- You've been making these changes throughout numerous articles without explanation or justification. Please explain why you feel this changes are appropriate before an edit war begins. --McChizzle (talk) 13:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

@McChizzle: Oops, it seems that you're right. My mistake. You can reverse my edits if you come across them. What I'm going to do instead of the DUI is replace the full color SSI at the top of the boxes with the subdued OCP versions and relegate the full color ones to the bottom of the box as CSIBs. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:05, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Vietnam Campaign Medal

Reference: http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r600_8_22.pdf Read pages 122 through 127 (only sections 9-3 and 9-13) and see how you interpret this. There are several dates that are easily confused Cuprum17 (talk) 19:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

CSS styling in templates

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William D Swenson, Medal of Honor

Dear Wiki Editor, I am writing because I would like to have you edit a Wikipedia page that concerns my son: William D. Swenson (Public Figure). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_D._Swenson

I am not tech savvy and do not want to learn to edit Wiki pages for a small edit. I would like you add something like:

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William Swenson has been the target of romance scams and frequently has bogus pages posted on Facebook using his name and photo. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/05/your-money/everybody-loves-a-hero-especially-facebook-fraudsters.html?_r=0 This is also documented on a scam alert page: http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71313

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I very much appreciate your time and effort to include these two links and some semblance of the text. Many thanks. Our son is still in the service and has no time to keep monitoring Facebook.

2601:602:9A00:45FF:D1BA:76D6:7D1E:83F0 (talk) 03:58, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Carl Swenson Swenson@seattleu.edu

Done, sir! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:21, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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Template:Did you know nominations/Southwest Asia Service Medal

Illegitimate Barrister, you created this page on March 2, but did not transclude it at that time, and you deleted the message that warned you that you had not completed the nomination by transcluding this page.

On the other hand, it may have been because the article is not a 5x expansion. Your most recent edits, all on March 2, started at 2843 prose characters, and is currently only about 1.1x expanded at 3122 prose characters.

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Presidential Unit Citation ribbon.svg

Hi, I just noticed a few articles pop up in Category:Articles with missing files from a global replace you did earlier. I think you may have renamed two files when you only meant to rename one? For instance this edit changed File:Presidential Unit Citation ribbon.svg to File:United States Army and U.S. Air Force Presidential Unit Citation ribbon.svg but also changed File:United States Navy Presidential Unit Citation ribbon.svg to File:United States Navy United States Army and U.S. Air Force Presidential Unit Citation ribbon.svg which is not valid. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 16:21, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Crap. I didn't know it would do that. Darn. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:29, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

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XVIII Airborne Corps

Hi, I noticed that you edited the xxiii airborne Corps at one time. I was just looking at that particular page and noticed that it is not up to date as far as the Corps subordinate units. I know for sure that the 10th Mountain, 82nd Airborne, and 101st Airborne are no longer part of the XVIII Airborne Corps, they are subordinate to US Army Forces Command. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.77.191 (talk) 03:49, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Flag of Washington County, Maryland.png

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Ribbons on my userpage

I noticed you replaced some obsolete image files on my userpage as some of the WP:SERVICE ribbons I use at the bottom of the page needed to be swapped out. That's fine, except now two of them have been extremely enlarged in the process! Ha ha, any way I can shrink 'em back down to fit where they used to? Zeke, the Mad Horrorist ^{(Speak quickly)} _{(Follow my trail)} 03:27, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that, I've fixed them. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:33, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Ad Orientem (talk) 18:52, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Huh? What for? This is completely out of the blue. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:12, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

For this, which I might add was done shortly after being blocked for similar behavior at Commons. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:33, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Well then, your block is in violation of blocking policy as blocks are supposed to be preventative and not punitive. I have much work to get done here and this block is preventing me from doing it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:46, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Seriously? You commit a personal attack on an editor immediately immediately after being blocked for substantially the same behavior on another wiki and you think that doesn't sound alarm bells about your behavior? Feel free to file an unblock request per the directions in the block notice. But for the record I will oppose it. Your comment shows that don't get it. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:29, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't get it, because I did nothing wrong. But, out of the kindness of my heart as a favor to you, I will not file an unblock request as everybody makes mistakes and the block is a mere 24 hours long and I can just wait until it ends. I hope next time you will issue blocks in accordance with the blocking policy. Please re-read up on it if you must, to refresh your knowledge. For the record, I wasn't blocked over on the Wikimedia Commons for personal attacks, I was blocked by an administrator because he felt slighted after I did not respond to an ANI speedily enough. Which of course is a ridiculous reason for blocking somebody and definitely in violation of blocking policy there. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:55, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

For context... commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#More comments from Illegitimate Barrister. Revent^talk 09:23, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

For more context, As a Commons-admin, I'm happy to amend the block reason on Commons to include harrasment towards users (reason for the AN/I) and cross-wiki abuse (continuing to harras the same user, only on a different wiki, this time enwp). (t) Josve05a (c) 13:47, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I think what is going on here is quite clear and any similar "nothing wrong" behavior will result in a longer block. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:48, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIII, May 2017

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Template:Country data Portugal

Hello,

Please replace File:PortugueseFlag1750.png with File:Flag Portugal (1750).svg. Thank you, --Sodacan (talk) 03:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

@Sodacan: Done! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:58, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Westchester

I saw you recently made a number of edits to the Westchester County article, reverting some of my hard work. I added the Geobox there, as it has a great many more useful parameters. The county infobox template is very underdeveloped, and uses a larger font with significantly worse spacing. As you have it now, the infobox now has a heavily redundant title, and lost the county, state, region, river, coordinates, lowest point, elevation, total area, land area, water area, FIPS, GNIS, demonym, and commonscat parameters, all of which are heavily used on other articles about geographical areas, including most major cities and regions. The maps used are also well inferior, in my opinion. I am reverting pending discussion on this issue, as this significant change lacked consensus or discussion. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 21:32, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

If you must, use the settlement infobox. It's better than the geo one, which is awful. Or you could expand the U.S. county infobox's template to add the geobox parameters into it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:23, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Why is the geobox awful? ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 15:18, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Republic of Norway for deletion

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Iran's Population

Hi, I'm unable to edit the Iran page as it's protected. Population count needs correcting since the latest National Census. It gives a count for Nov 2016 and a projection for March 2017. Wiki page currently overstates at 82.8 million. I'd appreciate you editing it, thanks.

https://financialtribune.com/articles/domestic-economy/61421/national-census-preliminary-results-released-irans-urban-population IR94025190 (talk) 21:15, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. You should update it here too. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:28, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

James A. Williams

please check the "U.S. military decorations" section, the problem also appeared in other articles, such as Harry E. Soyster, Jeff Gorell, Thomas R. Wilson etc. and still is in Samuel V. Wilson and others articles. Tomtom (talk) 23:04, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXIV, June 2017

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Gratiot pronunciation

The footnote you added to M-3 (Michigan highway) only supports the pronunciation, and none of the rest of the sentence about the highway being known as Gratiot Avenue. If you continue reading WP:CITEFOOT, which you cited in your last reversion, you'd see that the guideline says:

The citation should be added close to the material it supports, offering text–source integrity. If a word or phrase is particularly contentious, an inline citation may be added next to that word or phrase within the sentence, but it is usually sufficient to add the citation to the end of the clause, sentence, or paragraph, so long as it's clear which source supports which part of the text.

Now, the footnote only supports the pronunciation, and really only the respelled version and not the IPA version. It does not, and simply cannot support the information in the text about the highway being known by that name. To minimize confusion about what in that sentence is and is not being directly cited, I shifted the footnote into the parentheses, which is consistent with the above quoted paragraph. The guideline hedges itself with such qualifiers as "normally", "usually" and the like, allowing deviations in keeping with the spirit of text–source integrity.

It is also consistent with adding footnotes to similar parenthetical information, like "In 1909, the first mile (1.6 km) of concrete roadway in the country was paved between 6 and 7 Mile roads at a cost of $14,000 (equivalent to $2.17 million in 2015^[58]).^[50][59]" at the end of M-1 (Michigan highway)#Indian trails and plank roads. In that example, footnote 58 only supports the inflation-adjusted number while notes 50 and 59 support the main text of the sentence. In the M-3 situation, in the main text of that sentence, since this is the lead, the fact that most of M-3 is Gratiot Avenue is supported by footnotes 5 and 6 in the body, and footnotes need not be repeated in the lead for information summarized from the body of an article. Imzadi 1979 → 13:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXXV, July 2017

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Canelo Álvarez / historical flagicons

Greetings. I must ask about your reason for using era-specific flagicons in the record table, when Álvarez is a contemporary boxer and none of the flags present have changed since he began his career. I can't find any guidelines on this at MOS:FLAG, specifically "Use historical flags in contexts where the difference matters"—none of which applies in his case. It all looks rather bizarre specifying the current U.S. flag, when it hasn't changed since 1959, amongst others, and MOS:NOTUSA says nothing about forcing {{flagicon|USA}} to {{flagicon|US}}. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

It's just to future-proof the flagicons in case the countries' flags change. That way if they do change, editors don't have to go back and fix the anachronistic flags. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

OK, but twice you've changed the UK flag to a very, VERY outdated one that not even centenarians in this region would recognise. Why are you doing this? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:29, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, you mean the 1801 one? The 1801 UK flag is exactly the same as the current UK flag, that's just the year when it was adopted. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:31, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Then it's displaying as something different on my end (no Saint Patrick's Saltire/diagonal red lines; larger size than the other flags). Aside from that, why the size parameter at all? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:37, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I've removed the size parameters. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Question for you

Hi, I came across your semi-recent uploading of File:Flag of South Korea (1949-1984).png and subsequent updating of {{Country data South Korea}}. I suppose I was wondering why the image is so similar to the 2004 version yet so wildly different from the 1948 and 1984 versions (which immediately precede and follow it). I would think that the '49-84 version would be pretty much the same as the '84-97 version. Primefac (talk) 13:48, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

IIRC, the official dimensional specifications were not specified until 1984. So the flag is different to reflect that. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:21, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Okay, so I guess in that case I have to wonder, how did you know that's what the flag looked like? The '48 and '84 variants are almost identical (with respect to the positioning of the swirls), so it seems rather odd that they'd be so visibly different between those periods. Primefac (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

I'll try to fix up the image a bit. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:00, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Colonial flag of Samoa

Hello,

Can you please help me replace the file on this Template: Template:Country data Samoa. From File:Blue flag of colonial Samoa.png to File:Flag of the Samoa Trust Territory.svg, Thank you. Also how do I get the permission to edit these templates myself? where do I ask? --Sodacan (talk) 14:44, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. Try here. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:00, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Flag on Article about novel "Arc Light" by Eric Harry.

Hey, I'd like to discuss your flags on the article about the novel Arc Light, by Eric Harry. You noted a lack of inline citations. I'm sincerely puzzled as to what kinds of inline citations you expect to see in an article that is basically a synopsis of a fiction novel. Big Lew 00:03, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

What? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

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A Dobos torte for you!

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Ta for sorting out my errors on the Battle of Majar al-Kabir. You're welcome to marry my sister, Susan, anytime. The joy of all things (talk) 07:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Much appreciated. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Samuel Eliot Morison article

Hi, Something seemed to have gone wrong with this edit by yourself to the Samuel Eliot Morison article. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Replacing of redirects that aren't broken using AWB

I noticed that you've been using AWB to replace links to redirects with piped links to the target pages. You should review WP:NOTBROKEN, and note that some consider such edits to be against AWB rules of use numbers 3 and/or 4. Anomie⚔ 18:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Change to 220th MP Bde SSI file name

I ask you to revert your change. That file is the SSI, not the CSIB. Please see page on the 220th and note the interface between colors on the CSIB.Trilotat (talk) 16:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Reverted. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

SSI vs CSIB

Ill Barr, How's it going? Thank you for all the time you put into updating the US military pages. I've noticed a large effort on your part to replace existing shoulder sleeve insignia (SSI) graphics with the same image under the combat service identification badge (CSIB) name. Although the CSIB is a color version of the historic SSI of a unit, it does look different. Here are some examples:

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  USASOC SSI
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  USASOC CSIB
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  USASOAC SSI
• 
  USASOAC CSIB
• 
  75th Ranger Reg SSI
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  75th Ranger Reg CSIB

Lastly, only the US Army has SSIs and CSIBs. The US Air Force unit patches (called emblems) are full-color cloth only patches and they are not awarded as CSIB, they're only used to identify the Airman's current unit. So referring to USAF emblems as CSIBs would be incorrect; I'm referencing to your Fort Campbell page edits as an example.

• 
  AFSOC emblem
• 
  7th STS emblem

I know you are getting this comment after you have made quite a few changes to file names, but I wanted you to know that there is a distinct difference between the graphics of the cloth unit patches (the SSI) and the metal replicas of that patch (the CSIB). Thank you for all your contributions and keep up the good work. --McChizzle (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info; I've gone ahead and fixed the mistakes you pointed out. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:34, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

One last bit of information. Not all US Army units have CSIBs. Some units have not or will not deploy to a warzone. Case in point is the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, a training unit of Army Special Operation Forces (ARSOF), who will never have a CSIB for they are a US garrison training unit of USASOC.

I hope this information is useful to you. --McChizzle (talk) 10:56, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Badge of the Prince George's County Sheriff's Office.png listed for discussion

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Frederick

HI. Just was reviewing the page for the County of Frederick Maryland. There is an additional zip code that was left out as well as a town. Perhaps this was unknown or not included due to the make up of the zip code?

This town /zip code encompasses Mount Airy as a whole I believe 21771. The town seat is actually is Carroll County, MD. This zip code I believe runs through the 4 counties of Carroll, Frederick, Howard and Montgomery Counties. Depending on which side of the street you are on you could be in one county and then into the next. Much like the juilriadiction between the Police Departments in Washington DC. If you are standing on the east curb of 3 street SW/NW you are on US Capitol Police Grounds. The actual street is Metropolitan Police the the West Curb is on the US Park Police. Should a metro buss stop with an issue on board the primary agency becomes the metro transit police. All of course primary jurisdiction with each police department sharing concurrent jurisdiction. Sorry If I made you yawn. 😀 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:B024:12C5:8932:28E3:6412:202E (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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"better" is very subjective

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=O_Canada&diff=802356834&oldid=801418723 It's a different recording. The way that the song is harmonized is non-standard and could be disorienting for a Canadian listener. The Canada project has elected not to use this version anywhere on English Wikipedia. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

"better" is very subjective

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=O_Canada&curid=22504&diff=802381827&oldid=802377972 The way that the song is harmonized is non-standard and could be disorienting for a Canadian listener. The Canada project has elected not to use this version anywhere on English Wikipedia. And now you're edit warring on the Canada article over it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:37, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Racism in South Korea

Hi. I noticed this edit. What makes you say it was vandalism? --John (talk) 20:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Racism in South Korea

Hi. I noticed this edit. What makes you say it was vandalism? --John (talk) 20:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Removal of good ref. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Racism in South Korea

Hi. I noticed this edit. What makes you say it was vandalism? --John (talk) 20:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Removal of good ref. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. See, I don't think the ref was that good. Can you please be more careful the next time? WP:NOTVAND is worth a look too. --John (talk) 20:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

How so? Seems legit to me. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Racism in South Korea

Hi. I noticed this edit. What makes you say it was vandalism? --John (talk) 20:52, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Removal of good ref. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. See, I don't think the ref was that good. Can you please be more careful the next time? WP:NOTVAND is worth a look too. --John (talk) 20:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

How so? Seems legit to me. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

If you look on the talk page you'll see that the discussion there and at RSN did not think it was a reliable source for what it is being used to support there. Also, why do you keep "archiving" this conversation while we are having it? Please don't do that. --John (talk) 21:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Twenty Negro Act

Hi, I was just perusing some older articles I wrote or worked on a few years back, and I came across the changes you made to Twenty Negro Act. I just wanted to thank you for your additions and improvements; the article was very much improved by your contributions. Thanks again, and cheers! - Ecjmartin (talk) 01:29, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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Please note that this edit violates MOS:Ety. Could you please explain why you removed italics? --Omnipaedista (talk) 23:37, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

removal of italics from template:lang-de

What was the reason for this? The italics are aesthetically cohesive and add emphasis.--Sıgehelmus (Talk) |д=) 20:05, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

If someone wants italics, they can do it on the page. I see no reason to make the italics mandatory template-side. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Actually (!) many count on that the formatting is applied the same way in each other language variant. There is no reason to change the formatting for the German language only. Otherwise, many articles, which uses the template:lang-xx of several different languages in the same article or even (more often) in the same line, become obviously inconsistent; see e.g. the first line in Geneva. Consequently, it inescapably leads to such useless mass edits like done by User:Doremo (see also: User talk:Doremo#italics.3F.3F). Please go back and undo your non-consensual edit! Anyhow, such template changes with such a strong (formal) implication should always definitely be discussed before application. I do not understand why you did not check before?! -- ZH8000 (talk) 19:33, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Czech(oslovakia) flag

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Elf Bowling film

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Flag of Hawaii

Is this edit really meaningful? The only resemblance between the flag of Hawaii and the flags of Montenegro and Serbia in question are the similar colors and the fact that they have stripes. You could as well include the flag of France, because it's the same stripes and colors, just on its side. The case for the British flag is direct, but claiming inclusion of the other flags is really stretching trivia. Tarl N. (discuss) 04:19, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

@Tarl N.: I added that info since it was cited in an RS. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:31, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hi, I know you're an experienced editor (hence the question instead of a template notice), but I was just curious, would it have been possible to reduce the number of 50+ consecutive edits you made in the space of 2 hours to List of United States Navy enlisted rates by using the preview function sometimes? Like I said, just curious... - ^theWOLFchild 20:11, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

That's just how I do (see No. 4 here). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:13, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Um, ok... I read "No, 4" and don't quite see how it applies, but just the same I'm not looking to pursue this any further as I'm not looking to a make a whole 'thing' outta this. You know what I was asking, and I'm sure you understand why I was asking it, so I'll just leave it with you. Happy editing (& holidays). - ^theWOLFchild 11:08, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

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Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 09:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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James Small

Hi there, is there any reason why you removed the "Undue weight" tag on the James Small article, without actually having improved the imbalance in the article? He's a rugby player that made 47 appearances for the national team, scoring 20 tries and made several appearances at domestic and Super Rugby level. Yet, his career talks about him working as a model, crying about the apartheid era, stopping Jonah Lomu from scoring and being a bad boy. There is almost no mention of any of his rugby achievements contained in the article at all, except mentioning in the lead that he was the top try scorer in the 1996 Super 12 season. For an article about someone who was notable as a rugby player, it says precious little about the rugby he actually played... TheMightyPeanut (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for bringing this to my attention; I have gone ahead and fixed the problem. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:48, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Template issue?

Hi there, was browsing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke-class_destroyer when I noticed USS Carney/DDG64 had the incorrect crest for USS Kidd/DDG100. I guess this is all related to the Dodseal template but have no idea how to fix. I'll leave with you! Carldouglas (talk) 02:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention; I have gone ahead and fixed the problem. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:29, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Db-f8

Hi Illegitimate Barrister. Thanks for all your hard work transferring files to Commons! I see you've been using FTCG. Would you please consider leaving the default addition of {{Now Commons}} instead of replacing the text of transferred files with {{Db-f8}}? That would really help us out when determining which files to delete. Thanks, FASTILY 06:32, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Okay. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:33, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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	Thanks for doing the cleaning up on many different articles Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 18:53, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, you're welcome! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Yorktown, New York

You should have seen what that editor put in the article...Remember Trump's claim about cheering Muslims after 9/11? Kind of like that, but worse. Drmies (talk) 17:40, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Your recent edits to U.S. cities.

I noticed your recent edits to quite a number of U.S. cities, including removing the link to the country page from the infobox (changing it from United States to United States). Is there a reason for this? I haven't found an applicable policy, and it seems to me that the link ought to exist, especially considering the state and county links persist. Mr.1032 (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:OVERLINK: No need to link to the country if the state is already linked, because clicking on the state will link you to the country. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:30, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Editing rate

Just a courtesy note, Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Editing rate. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Queen Anne, Maryland

I saw that you added flags for the state and county. Problem is, you left out Queen Anne's (the county line goes down Main Street). If you can find the appropriate image for the Queen Anne's County flag, I can add it in. Paulmlieberman (talk) 23:21, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Queen Anne, Maryland

To Illegitimate Barrister, Esq.

Sir, as you have taken an (however minor) interest in the article on my (very) small town, I would ask your help. A neighbor gave me a digital copy of a photo his dad had given him, of the town's train station (now demolished) with a steam locomotive coming in and two horse-drawn wagons parked in front. The name of the town was changed to Queen Anne by the railroad.

The problem is, I don't know the provenance of the photo, or who "owns" it. The local (Easton, MD) library has a local history room, with a folder on Queen Anne, but they do not have this photo. When I tried to add the photo to Wikimedia Commons so I could add it to the article, the form intimidated me; I could not adequately answer the questions about copyright for this item.

What to do?

Your humble servant, Paulmlieberman (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

When was the photo taken? What year? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:15, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Detroit, Michigan

Hi, IB. I see you have a couple of AWB edits changing Detroit, Michigan to Detroit, Michigan. Please note that that edit generally shouldn't be done, per WP:NOTBROKEN. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:57, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Unless I've missed something, in which case, please catch me up! -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Detroit again

@JHunterJ: Did you get a response about Detroit? These changes don't seem like an improvement, and sometimes they violate seaofblue, for example one I just reverted at Edwin Denby (politician). Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

January 2018

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Edwin Denby (politician). Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:59, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Canada Day

Hi, I am brand new to editing Wikipedia, and I was very disappointed to see that the edit I did to Canada Day had been undone by you.

It does actually state in the article that Canada Day cannot fall on a Sunday, so how should I have edited it to reflect that. Stating that July 1, 2018 is Canada Day is incorrect.

I apologize if I do not understand the polite procedures of this process, and I would appreciate you assistance with this. I have been campaigning to always have Canada Day on July 1st since 2012, with no great success.

CanadaDayShouldBeOnJuly1st (talk) 03:49, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't remember reverting your edit and if I did it was inadvertent. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:50, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Replacing Detroit, Michigan with Detroit using AWB

You recently used AWB to change many redirects to the target piped to the redirect, such as [[Detroit, Michigan]] to [[Detroit|Detroit, Michigan]]. This violates WP:NOTBROKEN and is not necessary. - DinoSlider (talk) 04:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I won't pipe then. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:54, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

AWB changing to linking of City, State

Does AWB really suggest replacing Detroit, Michigan, with two links? This seems extremely odd, overlinking states when the city is what's relevant. Dicklyon (talk) 06:37, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: See diff. Johnuniq (talk) 07:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon:, the reason why I did that was because people were complaining that I was piping those links so I changed them to two links. But, you're right. It does seem to contradict WP:OVERLINK, so I'll just link the city then and leave the state unlinked. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (1955–59)

Please check the AWB edit at List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (1955–59). Ref 425 is showing a large error message ("Lua error in Module:Webarchive at line 395: attempt to concatenate field 'host' (a nil value)"). That is because the edit changed the reference from the first of the following to the second:

url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150709185926/http://www.nukestrat.com/us/afn/SAC01-0658.pdf
url=<code>rater_autostartNamespaces = 0;</code>

There are a bunch of other weird changes with the same strange characters that need to be checked. Undo seems best but you might want to investigate how it happened. Johnuniq (talk) 07:11, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Please see WT:AutoWikiBrowser#Editing rate. Johnuniq (talk) 07:51, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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Please stop and discuss first

You are editing at a very high rate, making edits which are unnecessary or where the consensus to make the change is unclear. There have been attempts here to get you to stop, but you simply change what you are doing without stopping. This should either be done by bot (if there is a consensus that these changes need to be done) or not at all. This is a completely useless edit, it doesn't change anything for any reader and isn't helpful. You were asked not to perform such WP:NOTBROKEN edits, but you continued anyway. It's not a single lapse, there are plenty of these among your most recent edits, like this, this or this.

AWB is not intended for such cosmetic edits, and AWB access may be removed if you continue making such edits. Fram (talk) 09:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Your edits also introduce errors, like here. Fram (talk) 09:51, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Looking a bit further back, you e.g. changed State (United States)| → U.S. state in hundreds (thousands?) of articles. This kind of change is useless and not allowed via AWB. Fram (talk) 10:02, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't see what the big deal is. People were complaining that I was needlessly piping links; they had a point so I stopped piping links. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:18, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Final warning

Stop making AWB edits (or the same needless edits like this in a different way) or you'll be blocked. Fram (talk) 12:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Blocked

You've seen the warning (which you archived), and the first edit after this is this? Blocked for 48 hours, if you continue with the same or similar afterwards your next block will be longer. Fram (talk) 12:33, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Illegitimate Barrister, you seem to think the problem is that you were piping the links, even though you've been pointed to WP:NOTBROKEN several times. The problem isn't the piping. The problem is editing to change from a perfectly good link to a perfectly good redirect. Those edits are contraindicated by WP:NOTBROKEN and also by all of WP:AWBRULES of use:

1. You are responsible for every edit made. Do not sacrifice quality for speed, and review all changes before saving.
2. Abide by all Wikipedia guidelines, policies and common practices. [in this case, WP:NOTBROKEN]
3. Do not make controversial edits with it. Seek consensus for changes that could be controversial at the appropriate venue; village pump, WikiProject, etc. "Being bold" is not a justification for mass editing lacking demonstrable consensus. If challenged, the onus is on the AWB operator to demonstrate or achieve consensus for changes they wish to make on a large scale. [The interactions on your talk page indicate that they are contrversial.]
4. Do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits. An edit that has no noticeable effect on the rendered page is generally considered an insignificant edit. If in doubt, or if other editors object to edits on the basis of this rule, seek consensus at an appropriate venue before making further similar edits. [One of the reasons for WP:NOTBROKEN is that the supposed improvement is incosequential.]

-- JHunterJ (talk) 13:26, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Please use Wikipedia:BRFA before resuming the replacement of redirects. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:30, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

To take a different slant on events, I got the impression that the blocking admin was themselves most concerned with #4 of the AWB rules (going by their original—"final"—warning, which specified "the same needless edits"). This is perhaps confirmed by IB's subsequent, post-block, activity on this page. In what almost certainly seems to have been an exercise in bear-poking, they made a series of pointless edits to this very page. Just FYI, of course. >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 13:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

AWB changing to linking of City, State

Does AWB really suggest replacing Detroit, Michigan, with two links? This seems extremely odd, overlinking states when the city is what's relevant. Dicklyon (talk) 06:37, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: See diff. Johnuniq (talk) 07:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Dicklyon: The reason why I did that was because people were complaining that I was piping those links so I changed them to two links. But, you're right. It does seem to contradict WP:OVERLINK, so I'll just link the city then and leave the state unlinked. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:04, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Unarchived, for further comment.

You shouldn't be doing that either, per WP:NOTBROKEN and – importantly – because changing "Detroit, Michigan," to "Detroit, Michigan," just inspires the next guideline-unaware editor who happens along to change it to "Detroit, Michigan," so you're still causing the same WP:OVERLINK result in the long run. If you're going to persist in some kind of edits of this sort, they should be to:

1. add the second comma when it's missing ("He lived in Detroit, Michigan until 2015 ..." is wrong);
2. change "U.S.", "US", "USA" to "United States" at first occurrence in the infobox and add it when missing from first occcurrence of a US placename. There appears to be a consensus that countries should be used in infoboxes, a form of tabular data (but it should not be abbreviated on first occurrence, per MOS:ABBR);
3. remove all of the above from first occurrence in running prose, because there's a countervailing consensus that we don't need to state in running text that Michigan and other US states are in the US; and
4. normalize the values in columnar tables (e.g. if a table with many columns and thus a need for compression, is using state abbreviations except for one entry, fix that entry; if a small table with no space issues is using state abbreviations for no reason, expand them – though doing this might require a consensus discussion per the ANI that Sabbatino links to below).

Hope this helps.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  15:05, 18 January 2018 (UTC); revised: 16:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Johnuniq and SMcCandlish: Saw these changes in several pages on my watchlist, which I instantly reverted since they are controversial, and just wanted to point out that there was an ANI discussion in November/December 2017 about a user who was making very similar edits using AWB. Feel free to read it. – Sabbatino (talk) 15:28, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Sabbatino: That ANI is a slightly different topic. It was using AWB to replace table entries from [[City, State]] to just [[City]] (with no state at all, linked or unlinked) for certain well-known US cities.—Bagumba (talk) 17:45, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Bagumba: For your information, infoboxes also fell in that category. And this is a similar topic, because it also touches cities' linking. – Sabbatino (talk) 18:44, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

When the city is what's relevant, but convention also includes the state, just use the City, State link, please. For the 29 cities where that's not the title, it's a redirect that's there for that purpose. Use it. Can we teach AWB to suggest that? Dicklyon (talk) 16:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

The record tables per MOS:BOXING/RECORD have long used redirects for [city, state/province], which is in line with WP:NOTBROKEN. If others are reverting, I will too—but taking into account that they were not malicious edits, just misguided. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

IB, if you're getting the point, I recommend that you volunteer to undo and cleanup the hundreds (or thousands?) of edits you just did, moving toward Detroit, Michigan, as the linkage wherever appropriate. That might help you get unblocked. Dicklyon (talk) 17:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

A comment from someone outside this dispute

IB, although we've never interacted much and although I do not use anything more automated than Twinkle, let me tell you how the edits you've gotten blocked for have affected me.

As an editor that primarily edits social geography topics, many of your edits changed articles I watch. My watchlist is hovering at about 5500 right now, and your edits are about all I can see. In the past few days, I've had to make untimely posts to talk discussions three times, because your rather pointless edits had buried them. I can imagine the effect all those edits had on the true power users around here who carry 10 times the watchlist I do. Cool toys are fun to play with...I get that. But step back and try to understand the effects of your actions on others. Please. John from Idegon (talk) 18:19, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I had thi exact same issue, my watchlist was clogged with these edits and I had to do a lot of sifting to find other, more important edits. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:35, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

How do you find the time to edit 300k articles?

Is it like a hobby? I'm not sure if this is allowed or not but I'm curious. Also I grew up in Arlington so that's cool. Infospazm (talk) 22:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I am not a racist listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect I am not a racist. Since you had some involvement with the I am not a racist redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:35, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

More unnecessary edits?

Why do you move a flag at Commons, and then change the link to the flag here to your new title, when the old link works just as well? This is more of the same behavuiour which just got you blocked, using a different tool. Please stop making such pointless edits, in general and certainly en masse, or you will again be blocked but for a longer time. Fram (talk) 16:11, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Blocked again

So, after the previous block, and after the warning you got yesterday, you make utterly pointless edits (edits which don't change anything for the reader) like this, this and this? I've blocked you again. Fram (talk) 05:36, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking him again. It's so odd that an editor seems to optimize only for number of edits, like having more edits than almost any other editor is a good thing, even if most of those edits are worthless. I think we should request or require that he go back and fix all the mess he made with his Detroit edits before letting him edit other stuff again. Dicklyon (talk) 06:33, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Any fix of those edits should be marked as bot edits to avoid the same problem with watchlist-clogging that they originally created. -- JHunterJ (talk) 15:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) Dicklyon (talk) 06:34, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

@Fram and Primefac: Check recent contribs to this page- IB is playing silly buggers again- pinged Primefac too as they pulled TPA least time for the same reason. Propose block extension as well, since this clearly indicates they aren't learning anything and will certainly return to the behaviour. YMMV, of course. >SerialNumber54129^{...speculates} 10:38, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

IB is clearly not interested in working collaboratively. While Dicklyon's comment was probably made in jest, the nature of the talk page edits since being blocked has actually got me wondering if there's not some seed of truth in them, and thus I've indeffed with TPA removed. If IB wants to debate the merits of their block, they are welcome to use UTRS; there's no whitespace for them to play around with. Primefac (talk) 20:10, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm no wiki-guru, but y'all may want to consider some way to undo his edits. Many of them seem to fit the criteria for vandalism. Bobisyouruncle (talk) 04:58, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

And that's your comment with only second edit on Wikipedia, yeah right. Welcome to the coming of the Sockpuppets...Naraht (talk) 02:52, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac: Thanks for restoring my talk page access; I appreciate it. How can I get my indefinite block lifted? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:17, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

The usual process; an {{unblock}} request making the case for why you shouldn't be blocked indefinitely and addressing the issues that led to said block. Primefac (talk) 14:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac: Done; I have put in my unblock request. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:22, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

UTRS

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UTRS appeal #20450 was submitted on Jan 27, 2018 03:10:50. This review is now closed.

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Concerning Unblock Requests

I have never done this before, but I am going to go on the record that I oppose granting any unblock requests for at least six months from the date of the most recent block (01-26-2018). This is based on the user's extensive history of disruptive editing. This note is not to be removed from the talk page before 26 July 2018. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:33, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Add I'm fine if IB wants to request a standard offer in six months. We can discuss that at the appropriate time. But I do believe that this editor's history shows they need some time away from the project. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:01, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you clarify what you mean by "extensive history of disruptive editing"? My first block for disruptive editing was only last month. I don't think that counts as extensive, does it? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Look at your edit history. Your edit history is extensive even in only the last month. That's the problem -- the extensive list of meaningless edits that did indeed thrust you into the most active editors group but otherwise only disrupted the watchlists of other editors and so disrupted the project. Wikicountitis is no problem in itself, but editing just for the sake of having edits is disruptive. There are gnomish things that can be done that both improve the encyclopedia and boost your edit counts. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:35, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to archive this discussion now, if that's okay with the OP. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

No objection. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Another view

My personal view is that Illegitimate Barrister has helped several editors, myself included, who were less experienced than himself in style or media issues. He has helped me at my request with articles that I was editing, because I had questions about pictures or fair-use issues. He has helped me with my grammar and punctuation many times.

It seems to me that some of the postings on this page by other editors comments smack of "piling on" in their purpose. This is supposedly not to be done on a user talk page by Wikipedia's own standards of conduct. I don't pretend to know all of the edits that he has done that violate Wikipedia standards, or at least some editors perceived notions of Wikipedia standards, however, I do know that he has made an honest effort to help me dozens of times in that past few years. I think that less effort should be put in damning his mistakes on his own talk page. Every editor, no matter how experienced, has made edits that were petty in nature or ill advised. Every editor has a set of real world problems that sometimes carry over into the Wiki-world. No one is perfect.

By Wikipedia standards, Illegitimate Barrister may deserve a suspension of his editing rights, but he does not deserve the some of the unconstructive comments on his talk page made by editors that should know better. This is my opinion, and is made with perhaps not all of the facts in hand, but it is made with a personal conviction. Cuprum17 (talk) 15:45, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

@Cuprum17: Thanks for your support, I appreciate it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:51, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

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Unblock

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Request reason:

I was indefinitely blocked in January 2018 for violating WP:GAME and WP:BEAR; I've since learned my lesson and will no longer be any threat. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:44, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Decline reason:

When Admin Primefac restored your talk page access, in resonse to your UTRS appeal, he said "I do request, though, that when you make your unblock request, you actually address the issues behind your block, and not just give a generic "I won't do what I did to get a block again", because that doesn't indicate that you've actually learned anything." But that is, in effect what you have just done. In order to be unblocked you need to demonstrate an understanding of your block by explaining in your own words, and not by just quoting policies, what was wrong with your edits that lead you to being blocked, and explain how you intend to change your editing practice to avoid this happening again. Just Chilling (talk) 22:36, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I was initially blocked last month for "disruptive editing"; specifically I made many minor edits to articles that made little-to-no visible aesthetic differences in them. It is my understanding that this ended up clogging up many people's watchlists for what essentially amounted to very minor and superficial edits, hence the disruption. I will try to avoid this in the future by reducing the frequency of such smaller edits and/or by combining them with more substantial and major revisions. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Accept reason:

You have summed up well the issues commentators had with your edits, and I'm willing to give you another chance.– Gilliam (talk) 16:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I appreciate it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:41, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

IB, some of those edits you should not make at all, like squeezing out optional white space, or changing the way Detroit is linked (which I still insist you go back and clean up). No matter how slowly you do it, it creates a lot of noise to review, and sometimes makes articles worse. Dicklyon (talk) 16:57, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Understood. I have no objection to reverting those edits, but I have no idea how to go about doing that. My AWB access was revoked. Also, wouldn't reverting the edits just clog up people's watchlists again? That was the original point of contention, IIRC. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:13, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Detroit linkages

I take you have no appetite for cleaning up the mess you made with linkages to Detroit, since you've thrice deleted my request without commenting on it. Why do you focus so much on number of edits, to the complete neglect of quality of edits? Dicklyon (talk) 04:08, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@Dicklyon: Please provide diffs for problematic changes to Detroit.– Gilliam (talk) 06:17, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Gilliam, that is completely unrealistic; there are over 5000 of them. One page of 500 edits, about 12 minutes using AWB, is here; the editing had started the evening of January 17, and continued into January 18. A significant majority of the edits still show up as "current", meaning that the inappropriate change is still present. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:38, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@BlueMoonset:, I don't see anything at MOS:OVERLINK which deems such an edit inappropriate, tedious as it may be.– Gilliam (talk) 07:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Gilliam, the edits were not helpful; see this discussion, which points out in detail why IB shouldn't have been doing what they were doing (earlier warnings have already been removed), which violated a number of other policies and made life more difficult for many editors. So, clearly inappropriate. A mass reversion would probably be almost as disruptive as the original mass change was, and I'm not sure whether IB is still allowed to use AWB at this point, but I can understand Dicklyon's frustration. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:18, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Um, Gilliam, you unblocked IB, and you need "diffs" for the Detroit edits? Have you actually looked at the discussion preceding the blocks before unblocking? I'm quite baffled at how you can decide on an unblock but need diffs for "problematic changes to Detroit". Fram (talk) 09:17, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I was looking to evaluate IB's post-unblock edits pertaining to Detroit,– Gilliam (talk) 10:22, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, Dicklyon asked him to clean up his pre-block edits. Fram (talk) 10:40, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

I've suggested that they not be reverted. They were inconsequential and shouldn't have been made. The reverts, though, will also be inconsequential and shouldn't be made en masse. I reverted one or two of them before I realized the scope of the edits. If they are to be reverted, they need to be done as bot edits. -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:55, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Several thousand of them converted city links to city and state links, where the state is not relevant. Those should be reverted. Dicklyon (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikifying

Many of your current edits are "wikifying". While some are clearly helpful, others seem to be based on some personal preference and don't actually wikify the arfticle ir make much sense.

• Short stubs should not get forced into sections just for the sake of it.[1]
• When a section describes the whole of the early life, and the "education bit consists of "dropped out of school in the 8th grade", then changing "early life" into "early life and education" is unnecessary and even weird[2]
• Similarly, here you add "and education" which is only a very small part of the section, and change "political career" to "career" even though his non-political career is included in the previous section and this section only deals with his political career
• Changing the references section to "30 em" may be good when there are many references, but when there are only a few, it is totally unnecessary. Forcing the references into columns often gives strange results visually, certainly for mobile users.[3][4]
• This is not a typo, and should not have been changed. Fram (talk) 14:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Noted. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:32, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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Block/unblock

My apologies for the latest block, I was looking at the wrong edits. Again, my apologies. Fram (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

It's all good; no hard feelings. I will admit it was a bit of a scare for a moment. (^_^) – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

Hello, Illegitimate Barrister. When you moved Montgomery County Public Schools to a new title and then changed the old title into a disambiguation page, you may not have been aware of WP:FIXDABLINKS, which says:

When creating disambiguation pages, fix all resulting mis-directed links.

Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

It would be a great help if you would check the other Wikipedia articles that contain links to "Montgomery County Public Schools" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:40, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

@R'n'B: I'll try and fix 'em, but there's a lot of pages. If I had access to AWB it be much easier. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

@R'n'B: Took me a while but all links have been fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:04, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello Illegitimate Barrister, thank you for your efforts in reviewing new pages!

The NPP backlog at the end of the drive with the number of unreviewed articles by creation date. Red is older than 90 days, orange is between 90 and 30 days old, and green is younger than 30 days.

Backlog update:

• The new page backlog is currently at 3819 unreviewed articles, with a further 6660 unreviewed redirects.
• We are very close to eliminating the backlog completely; please help by reviewing a few extra articles each day!

New Year Backlog Drive results:

• We made massive progress during the recent four weeks of the NPP Backlog Drive, during which the backlog reduced by nearly six thousand articles and the length of the backlog by almost 3 months!

General project update:

• ACTRIAL will end it's initial phase on the 14th of March. Our goal is to reduce the backlog significantly below the 90 day index point by the 14th of March. Please consider helping with this goal by reviewing a few additional pages a day.
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Assistance request

I am running for Governor in Arizona and other candidates seem to have Wikipedia pages. I feel I should also have one but do not know how to go about this. I am running on a climate repair platform with specific solutions for removing carbon from our atmosphere so I feel it is very important to be heard in this campaign. I would appreciate your guidance! Please email to dr.komor@gmail.com. Thank you! – ChrisKomor (talk • contribs) 03:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@ChrisKomor: Well, if you do manage to get your own page, know that you cannot edit it (outside of some minor things like fixing up spelling and grammar), as that would be a violation of conflict of interest (we don't want people using Wikipedia as a giant boosteristic advertisement for themselves since that would damage our reputation for being an objective encyclopedia). Now, to get your own page you need to meet the criteria set forth by Wikipedia for notability. You can see the prerequisite criterion over here. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:46, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at User talk:EinsteinGirl#Welcome!

 You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:EinsteinGirl#Welcome!. —usernamekiran(talk) 03:57, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Also, what special:diff/824728554 is this about? —usernamekiran(talk) 03:58, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Flag of North Korea

Hello! Your submission of Flag of North Korea at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Chris857 (talk) 18:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Christian Komor Again

Dear Illegitimate Barrister:

Could you, being an expert, write an article about me? I am the author of over 24 books including the most recent "Climate Deadline 2035"I don't care about publicity for myself at all, but I do care that we get control of climate disruption before it makes every else (including Wikipedia) extinct! At least getting my name on Wikipedia would add some legitimacy. If I win as Governor in Arizona (or even just get the right people to start working on the issue of removing carbon SAFELY from the atmosphere (which no one is doing at present) we might just avoid the "tipping levels" coming up in the 2030's beyond which nothing much will matter anymore.

Christian R. Komor, Psy.D. began a 30-year career in public service as a Clinical Psychologist after graduating Magna Cum Laude from Wright State University in 1989. In the mid-1990’s Dr. Komor founded one of the largest private healthcare centers in Western Michigan. The release of Dr. Komor’s first book, “The Power of Being” (1992) provided a forewarning of, and solutions for, the crisis of escalating consumerism and excess which now threatens our global way of life in the form of climate change. Today Chris is the author of more than twenty books including "Driving Ourselves Sane" and "EarthSpirit!" which have been translated into several languages around the world. As a sought after national speaker Dr. Komor has been the focus of dozens of articles, and television and radio interviews. Originally a native of Michigan, Dr. Komor migrated to the American Southwest in the early 2000’s falling in love with the diversity of Arizona’s land and people. Chris has served as a Deputy Sheriff and on Search & Rescue teams and spent time living in most large and many small Arizona cities in becoming familiar with the varying needs of the people in our amazing State – a State now endangered by climate disruption. Dr. Komor’s concern for the deepening Climate Crisis has now led him into the race for Governor and the publication of his most recent book “Climate Deadline 2035". Climate Deadline 2035 tells the story of the intense race we are all in to beat the “point of no return” in the 2030's and our one best hope for survival that lies not with scientists or governments but in the will of the citizens of our planet – each one of us! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1011:B01C:393A:3D6B:3DE5:91DB:515E (talk) 20:20, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

@ChrisKomor: I need reliable third party sources about you, as I cannot write an article without them (self-published sources will not suffice). What I suggest is that you write a basic outline of the article over at Draft:Christian Komor then when its ready, submit that article for review by peers for publication. I will try and edit the article for neutrality, objectivity, and conformation to Wikipedia standards. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018

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U.S. flagicons

Hello, please fix the flagicon size directly in the {{navy/core}} & {{army/core}} rather than in all those U.S. country data templates. It causes problems in articles, e.g. 2018 Fed Cup World Group – compare the U.S. and France flagicons:

• {{fed-big|USA}} →
  
  United States
• {{fed-big|FRA}} →
  
  France

Also notice this unequal flagicon size:

• {{army|COD}} → Land Forces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo
• {{army|USA}} → United States Army

So set the 23x20px size directly in the army/core, thanks, Maiō T. (talk) 23:23, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Okay. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 23:24, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Image without license

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Question about flag copyrights

Hello; I appreciate your work on the page Dissident Irish Republican campaign, and that you placed abbreviations instead of the flags rather than removing them completely. However I would like to ask as to the copyright(s) of whom the aforementioned images constituted a violation of. Thank you, Simon Levchenko (talk) 18:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Some of the flags are copyrighted; I removed them because there's so little room it makes the text all cluttered. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Mass trucking listed at Redirects for discussion

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Further Questions

Which brings me to the question. Whose copyrights are they? And cluttering is a matter of opinion, on the page Years of Lead (Italy), consensus pointed to flags better organizing info box layout. Sincerely, Simon Levchenko (talk) 03:24, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, File:Img psnibadge.png and File:Orange Volunteers logo.png are copyrighted. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:15, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Use of the logo in the article complies with Wikipedia non-free content policy, logo guidelines, and fair use under United States copyright law as described above. Also, emboldened words are used here as well; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles

Simon Levchenko (talk) 17:02, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Re: Canada

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Inflammatory biased angle of Wiki articles

Obviously the Wikipedia entry on the shooting cannot be edited and open for anyone to protect from vandalism. It seems that clear political angles are present as the article is locked down from editing during its peak time of viewing during this news cycle of the event.

Currently article paragraph, “Police said Cruz holds "extremist" views and social media accounts believed to be linked to him contain anti-black and anti-Muslim slurs.[30] The Jewish Anti Defamation League reports that he has ties to white supremacists, that the police are investigating.[40] In a private Instagram group he titled "Murica (American flag emoji) (eagle emoji) great", he advocated killing Mexicans, blacks, and gays. He said his hate for black people was 'simply because they were black', and he referred to white women in interracial relationships as traitors.[41]”.

Several of these quotes omit the fact that it is only speculative that Cruz is the author of these quotes given by people that would not identify himself. A full paragraph throws highly speculative information that Cruz is radicalized by white supremicist. (For the love of god his last name is Cruz.)

The article is tilted from a left leaning perspective and cannot be accurately balanced because it is locked down. Jklovinbestbudd (talk) 18:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Stoneman edit

I don't see the improvement in this. The only difference I see is the elimination of the very justified 15% oversize. What are we getting in return for that loss? ―Mandruss ☎ 19:26, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

The edit appears to have been reverted. I have no objection to the revert. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:34, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Seal of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.png

Hi. Thanks for your work on MSDHS. I've got a concern, though. I'm not sure your license on the above is valid. I'm also not sure it's not. What I am sure of is that any back and forth on this currently very highly visible article is a bad thing. My concern is that in many states (and again I am not sure Florida is one), school districts are not considered units of government but quasi-public corporations. Again, what I am sure of is you could upload the exact same image to en.wiki with a fair use rationale and there would be no chance of it being a problem. John from Idegon (talk) 03:54, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

My profuse apologies

I apparently thought I was on your talk page. I certainly hope I am now. --Haruo (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Wilhelmus

Your recent edit to the file broke it. The last few bars are missing. Could you please revert to the previous version? There's nothing wrong with it. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 03:42, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Can you elaborate, please? It works just fine for me. Try clearing your cookies and cache (or using a different browser) and see if that helps. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:44, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

I've uploaded a WAV version. See if that works better for you than the OGG one. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:01, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Fixes it. Thanks. 198.84.253.202 (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:47, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Murked listed at Redirects for discussion

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Jacob E. Schlereth

Thank you for your efforts on my article about Jacob E. Schlereth. I have updated the article's TALK section with some information and I have un-done your edit removing the video as I am continuing to learn proper usage of Non-Free Copyright multimedia. I believe that this usage meets all Wiki requirements and I have attempted to update the profile of the video. Timarnold72 (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Timarnold72

Correction, it's not your article, nor is it mine. Articles are not owned by any one editor. As for the video, usually copyrighted videos can only be 30 seconds or under. That video is more than one minute long. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs),

Fair point... I was only identifying myself as the original author of the post. I've been very open that this is my first wiki and my intention is to follow all guidelines and etiquette. I'll trim down the excerpt to a more acceptable length. Thanks for your contributions. Timarnold72 (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2018 (UTC)Timarnold72

The Bugle: Issue CXLIII, March 2018

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Help : review article

Hi Let me introduce myself. I am Felix and I’m a novice in Wikipedia ! I wrote an article recently, it’s a biography of a french-american journalist : Laura Haim. Now, I’m waiting for validation from wikipedian reviewer. Would you be able to help me? I have no idea how long it could take… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Laura_Haim Many thanks for your help. Best

Felix — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billybon (talk • contribs) 17:04, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

I've cleaned it up a bit. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Magdalena Leones

I am curious. I do not see an edit summary, and thus am confused as to the purpose of this edit. Please enlighten me.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:43, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

You're right; I've reverted it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:37, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

File:Flag of Chattanooga, Tennessee.svg

I'm curious as to how a flag created in 2012 is dated 1975? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 03:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

The seal featured on the flag is from 1975. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:02, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Navy Working Uniform has been accepted

Navy Working Uniform, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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New Page Review Newsletter No.10

Hello Illegitimate Barrister, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

• ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.

Paid editing

• Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.

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News

• The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.

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Toys R Us is not defunct until on or Before June 30th for stores worldwide

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did with this edit to Toys "R" Us. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be banned from editing Wikipedia. ~BuddyBoy600 (Talk)

I didn't add that info. You've got the wrong user. Know what the heck you're talking about before wrongly accusing people of vandalism and threatening them. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:10, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Substituting templates

Hey, just thought I'd give you a heads up about warning vandals. Typically, uw-vandalism and other templates should be substituted by using the prefix {{subst: before the template. It's not really a big deal of course, just a good habit to get into. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 14:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the tip. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 15:36, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIIV, April 2018

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D looks at the bombing of Darwin; recent books by female military historians Review essay: K.e.coffman on Wikipedia's representations of the Nazi German military Op-ed: TomStar81 on the Red Baron Timeline: This month in World War I

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Upcoming changes to wikitext parsing

Hello,

There will be some changes to the way wikitext is parsed during the next few weeks. It will affect all namespaces. You can see a list of pages that may display incorrectly at Special:LintErrors. Since most of the easy problems have already been solved at the English Wikipedia, I am specifically contacting tech-savvy editors such as yourself with this one-time message, in the hope that you will be able to investigate the remaining high-priority pages during the next month.

There are approximately 10,000 articles (and many more non-article pages) with high-priority errors. The most important ones are the articles with misnested tags and table problems. Some of these involve templates, such as infoboxes, or the way the template is used in the article. In some cases, the "error" is a minor, unimportant difference in the visual appearance. In other cases, the results are undesirable. You can see a before-and-after comparison of any article by adding ?action=parsermigration-edit to the end of a link, like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Foss?action=parsermigration-edit (which shows a difference in how {{infobox ship}} is parsed).

If you are interested in helping with this project, please see Wikipedia:Linter. There are also some basic instructions (and links to even more information) at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2018-April/001836.html You can also leave a note at WT:Linter if you have questions.

Thank you for all the good things you do for the English Wikipedia. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Poland edit request on 1 May 2018

Template:Country data Poland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The image of 1928 flag has broken since the pages had been moved to File:Flag of Poland (1928–1980).svg. Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 07:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

I can see it just fine. Try clearing your browser cache and purging the page to see if that works. Either way, I'll update the endash just in case. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:29, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Italy edit request on 1 May 2018

Template:Country data Italy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The image of 1946 flag has broken since the pages had been moved to File:Flag of Italy (1946–2003).svg. Would you edit that? BTW, the flag still unidentified in my browsers (Chrome and Firefox). I usually use private window so no caches should be left. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 07:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Russia edit request on 5 May 2018

Template:Country data Russia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The image of 1991 flag has broken since the pages had been moved to File:Flag of Russia (1991–1993).svg. Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 05:13, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Italy edit request on 5 May 2018

Template:Country data Italy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The image of 2003 flag has broken since the pages had been moved to File:Flag of Italy (2003–2006).svg. Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 05:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Country data Haiti edit request on 10 May 2018

Template:Country data Haiti (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The image of 3 flags (1814, 1859, 1964) have broken since you have moved the pages due to dashes (- to –). Would you edit that? And I want to say if you endash the flags, change the link in each country data template, since the flag will not be "identified". Finish what you start. Thank you – Flix11 (talk) 12:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Fixed. FWIW, I can see the images just fine on my end. Have you thought about becoming a template editor? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:51, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLIV, May 2018

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at coalitions and logistics in World War II, and Nick-D at Australia's frontier wars Timeline: This month in World War I

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Thai flag colours

Hi. Please see my comments at Talk:Flag of Thailand#"Historical" colours. I don't think it's correct to label files created in 2011 as representing historical flags from the 19th century. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018

Hello Illegitimate Barrister, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

ACTRIAL:

• WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags

• Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:

• A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.

Editathons

• There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy

• Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

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News

• Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
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Mos:flag listed at Redirects for discussion

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Mos:milterms listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Mos:milterms. Since you had some involvement with the Mos:milterms redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 00:40, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

North Korea flag

Hi, I see you made a change here Template:Country data North Korea for a North Korean flag between 1948-1992. I check the Flag of North Korea and can't see a single source for that. is there any source for that except for an edit made by a banned IP, I would like to update the PRK flag on other articles but first I want to be sure this is the correct change which I doubt since I can't find a source to prove that. thanks. Mohsen1248 (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Salam. The file description lists 新國旗의 製定과 太極旗의 廢止에 對하여 and 조선민주주의인민공화국 국기법 as the sources. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 11:20, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hi, could you please leave a summary of some kind, even a brief one, when you make changes to articles? It would be appreciated by your fellow editors. Thank you - ^theWOLFchild 21:30, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVI, June 2018

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Duplicates in template

Hi, Ill. Template:Country data Serbia and Montenegro has duplicate size= & name= parms, which is exploding Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. Davemck (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

@Davemck: Thanks for the heads up; went ahead and fixed it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive

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Template:Country data Wales

Hi mate, I saw you made a change to the above-mentioned template, but I think the flag you've selected as the default is the wrong one. The correct one is File:Flag of Wales (1959–present).svg, not File:Flag of Wales.svg. Any chance you could make that correction? Cheers. – PeeJay 21:54, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

@PeeJay2K3: Done. My understanding was that the flag was not standardised therefore both versions were equally valid. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Bože Pravde article

Hi! I noticed this edit that you made to the article. My concern is about the addition of lost its sovereignty in the lede - I can't reach the source right now, so forgive me if that's the wording used there. I also noticed that you're making incremental changes to the article so I didn't want to revert, and I hope this is the easiest way to reach you. The lede sentence might be better without those words, since Serbia essentialy unified with neighboring nations to form a new country. Since this is probably a content dispute (well, it's not even a dispute yet =)), I won't go into details right now, just thought I should mention it to you here. Thanks! byteflush _Talk 02:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Okay, understood. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:30, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I think it's better now. Also, thank you for contributing to former Yugoslavia articles in general! =) byteflush _Talk 02:35, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:35, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Flag of South Africa

Hi! Could you please delete all WFB flags from Template:Country data South Africa? They are incorrect and should be deleted from Wikipedia altogether, so let's make sure they don't appear in articles where this template is in use. I would do it, but the template is protected. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 16:28, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Why not just keep them on the template, but rather don't use them instead? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:58, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

People use them, thinking they are accurate. That's the problem with including them in the templates. Infoboxes in articles about military conflicts are full of inaccurate flags (look at the German flag in this article, for instance). --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 23:29, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Are you able to delete the WFB flags from the template(s)? The one for Iran is particularly outrageous (look at how incorrect flags appear on articles like List of wars involving Iran as users understandably believe that "flag|Iran|1980" means whatever flag Iran had in 1980). --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 03:24, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Hangul

Could we maybe move the Hangul page to Korean Alphabet eventually as "Chosŏn'gŭl" should be treated as equal to "Hangul". ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 15:52, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

I agree. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:24, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Template talk:Country data FR Yugoslavia

Hi, I'm repeating my request for you to come to this page and respond to the request there. Currently I have no idea what changes you made or for what reason, so don't know if this removal was intentional or not. Thank you — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:44, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 09:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Naval flag UK broken in template you edited

Hey, at some point in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Country_data_United_Kingdom&action=history your last edits here, something broke the display for the UK naval flag. I tracked it down to this page but I don't know how to fix it. The naval flag shows fine on the revisions before your edits, but not on the ones after your edits. It's breaking a lot of templates and articles. Cheers 65.94.86.71 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:11, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

I can see it just fine. Nonetheless I've went ahead and updated it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:08, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Hangul

They're not going to like the NPOV edit you did on Hangul; as much as I said they should be alphabetically ordered they had arguments against this. Take a look on the page's talk page, just though you should know. ImprovedWikiImprovment (disputationem) 22:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Please...

...stop changing references to "Nazi Germany" to "Germany" linked to Nazi Germany. If we are sending our readers to Nazi Germany anyway, there's no reason not to actually say' "Nazi Germany". Further, "Germany is improcise, as it could refer to sever different states: the German Empire, Weimar Germany or the modern German state, for instance. Finally, these kind of "easter egg" links are highly discouraged.

Please stop doing this disservice to our readers. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:00, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018

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Thanks for your edits—and another thing. . .

Hi, Ill Bar, Thanks for your edits to Lorenzo de Zavala. The article is very prone to vandalism as you may have noticed. I have never been in the presence of Plusquamperfect Looshpah, so I am a little nervous. I hope I can rely on you as a sounding board on Wiki things as they arise, for example:

I have a Wikimedia question about an image I used in an article Gordon Kennedy (musician). If you look at the history, you will see that File:Gordon Kennedy, musician songwriter.jpg was deleted. The subject of the article, Gordon Kennedy, sent me the picture via email and provided a release HERE, but Wikimedia seems dubious that he actually owns the picture of himself and their replies are requests for the transfer of copyright from the photographer. Kennedy says no pro photographer is involved. I've done similar releases in other biographies before without problems. I'm not privy to the discussions [Ticket#2018052110013181]. Any advice? Regards,Eagledj (talk) 13:29, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Did you try using OTRS? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:57, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. ()

Hello Illegitimate Barrister, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules

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Editathons

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State of Palestine?

I would like to see the page about the state of palestine more thoroughly and clearly articulate the underpinnings regarding their status as a territory starting with the title. Palestine is not a state as recognized by the united nations. Also, I find the verbose manner in which the subject of Palestine's status is expressed seems a deliberate and nonsensical obfuscation of the fact that Palestine is a territory because heretofore it has been unsuccessful insofar as meeting the requirements necessary for achieving statehood status.

Not being recognized by the UN doesn't mean you aren't a state. It just makes you an unrecognized state. It's an observer state, which is more than say, Taiwan can say, but few people (other than PRC nationalists) deny it is a state. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:27, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLVIII, August 2018

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Sunnyvale edits

Thanks for your recent edits to the Sunnyvale, CA page. I have an issue with one set of edits you made. You re-inserted the obsolete City of Sunnyvale logo as the Flag and Seal. That's not correct. The new logo has replaced the old logo - as the flag, as the seal, as the logo on all branded objects. In some cases, the City will phase in the new logo only when items get replaced. But it shouldn't be either the seal or the flag any longer. So I don't think that particular edit is correct. But I didn't want to just undo that part of your edit. JGriffithSV (talk) 04:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

When was it replaced? I have a picture of the flag outside city hall in 2016. Google Street View has a picture of city hall in 2017 but its hanging low due to no wind. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 08:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:National anthems of Serbia

Template:National anthems of Serbia has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Vanjagenije (talk) 10:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Corrupted DSSM image?

Hi. This ribbon: appears to have bands on the left and right side that has the alternating dark/light yellow offset from the rest of the ribbon (see pic). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 15:00, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Nothing wrong; that's intentional. If you look at a photo of the real thing, it has it too. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 16:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I now see there are others like this as well. Seems like what we're seeing is the 3D effect of the cloth being extruded by a smaller solid rectangular piece under it. It just doesn't look quite right under higher magnification. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 21:08, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

FWIW, the official specification sheet refers to it as an "Edge and binder" and it's 0.8mm wide. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:13, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXLIX, September 2018

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Your BLP edits

Your edits to Murder of Serena McKay were completely inappropriate, and has been oversighted. I considered issuing a block on the spot as this is not the first time you have had these issues (discussion). We are not allowed to talk about the specifics of what you added or link the source, so I can't point you directly to your inappropriate edits. Nonetheless the first source you inserted did not even cover the material you had posted, nor did it even seem reliable. Also the content you added was a flagrant violation of WP:BLPNAME. If you continue to make edits that violate the Biographies of living persons policy, you will be blocked. Even more so if the information is oversightable like the two cases mentioned here. Please also make yourself aware of all aspects of the BLP policy and review reliable sourcing. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 19:10, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello Illegitimate Barrister, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news

• The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.

As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.

• There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.

Other

• A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.

Moving to Draft and Page Mover

• Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
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List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing

Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget. In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions. MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues. User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page) User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50). User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you. User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js(info): Creates a "Page Curation" link to Special:NewPagesFeed up near your sandbox link. User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js: Creates links next to the title of each page which show up if it has been previously deleted or nominated for deletion. User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).

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"empire" - what the word means

It's certainly not because the head of state is referred to as an "emperor" - Idi Amin called himself an emperor! Dig in to some scholarly books on the subject so that embarrassing statements might be avoided in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.25.206 (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Quoi? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:00, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Non-notable crew. Feel free to join the discussion. - wolf 11:06, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Image placement

Hi, thank you for your edits on Manuel Torres (diplomat). I notice however that you moved all images to be floated right. Left placement however can be desirable; WP:Manual of Style/Images says that "Mul­ti­ple im­ages can be stag­gered right and left. ... It is often preferable to place images of people so that they 'look' toward the text." Several of the article's images are right-oriented and so do well on the left, or were placed left to balance the overall layout the article. If you have ideas for illustrating the article it would be helpful to start a discussion on the talk page; I've come a bit short on closely-related images, myself. Kim Post (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Chevrolet Impala, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Carmaker1 (talk) 07:52, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Quoi? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:53, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CL, October 2018

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Just out of curiosity...

...do you ever consider making just 4 or 5 edits, instead of 40 or 50, when doing an article cleanup? You can still make all the same changes. Or perhaps using the "preview" function? Or the "edit summary" function? As I said, I'm just asking out of curiosity, and as a courtesy, I'm not pasting a bunch of template notices here. But, please consider showing some courtesy to your fellow editors, especially the page watchers, by doing some of the very quick and easy actions noted above. Thanks - wolf 09:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

PSA

Hi. At User:Illegitimate Barrister § Public service announcement, you suggest indiscriminate replacement of USA with U.S.. What about places where it is correctly used as the ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 code? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:47, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Exceptions are made for those cases specified in WP:NOTUSA. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:48, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Illegitimate Barrister, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal

• There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
• Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!

Project updates

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PSA (2)

Sorry if I'm belaboring it because it's not a big deal, but I meant to suggest that the perhaps less-experienced people to whom your PSA is addressed might not read WP:NOTUSA (despite the whole think being linked to it) and take your advice as written. I meant to suggest that you add mention of the few exceptions to your parenthetical or perhaps as a small note at the end of the statement. I'll also note it's not mentioned in the "only use..." exceptions here.

Alright, fair enough. However, I did mention an exception, if it is part of a proper noun then it is fine. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

BTW, thanks for the material you've assembled at User talk:Illegitimate Barrister#Saved pet projects! I have definitely run across the need for many of them . —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:05, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

No problem, glad to be of help. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

October 2018

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to USS Rafael Peralta, please use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the article will look like without actually saving it.

The "show preview" button is right next to the "publish changes" button and below the edit summary field.

It is strongly recommended that you use this before saving. If you have any questions, contact the help desk for assistance. Thank you. - wolf 18:21, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Understood, my apologies. Thank you for the tip. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate parms in templates

Hi I.B. In Template:Country data Georgia (country) there are duplicates of "flag alias-coast guard" & "link alias-coast guard", which are causing havoc on Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls.

Also similar errors in Template:Country data China. Davemck (talk) 17:55, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

My apologies. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I have gone ahead and fixed them. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018

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NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

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Parkland

Hello. Would love your help in creating a new page about a project by the students in Parkland and Jonah Bryson. Do you think you can help? I've provided linked below to People Magazine, Rolling Stone, and IMDb.

https://people.com/crime/parkland-students-music-video-vote-midterm-elections/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/parkland-survivors-honor-victims-midterm-voters-new-music-video-752735/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8492802/?ref_=nv_sr_1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diver65 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, but a bit too preoccupied at the moment. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

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Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

See also the list of top 100 reviewers.

Less good news, and an appeal for some help

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.

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Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

F8

Hi Illegitimate Barrister. Please note that speedy deletion criterion F8 may only be applied when "The Commons version is in the same file format and is of the same or higher quality/resolution.". Thanks, FASTILY 01:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Request

Hello again I.B. and Happy Holidays to you. While I appreacite the effort you put into improving articles, such as "Uniforms of the United States Navy", as I'm sure many others do as well, I again wanted to ask you if you would please add an edit summary, at least to your first edit, (it could be something like "article maintenance", or "cleaning up the page"... I often use "cleanup", "fixes" or "tweaks" myself), just to let others know what you're doing/have done. And again, could you also puh-leeeeze... pretty-please, with sugar on top, use the page preview function, so that all of us page watchers don't have a bah-zillion minor edits filling up our watchlists? It would be most appreciated. Thanks, and again... Best of the Season to you and yours. - wolf 01:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Understood. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:34, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Nazi flag broken!!

You changed the name of Nazi flag from German Reich (1935-1945) to Germany (1935-1945) which has replaced hundreds of flags with errors! You must fix this, I guess you can change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Country_data_Nazi_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Country_data_Germany
these the same way so its not so broken!!
--Havsjö (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:58, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

7-Eleven

What was this for? Dicklyon (talk) 00:26, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Was a unique video that showed the time period in question; you can remove it if you want. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

German Flag

I simply must ask you to stop (and preferably change) the continued push for the "flag of West Germany" on Wikipedia. this is not "the flag of West Germany" as opposed to the flag used by Germany today. It is indeed true that Germany had no official specifications on colour shades previously to the corporate design in the 90's, but that only means that any "black-red-gold" shade would have been adequate. This is the case for pretty much every flag, as they were defined with "green" "blue" "red" until in modern times official specific color codes were defined based on the common style/shade depiction of the flag.

It does not mean that there was as set, specific design of the flag that looked like this , that they later decided to change and redesigned into this. That is only a possible variant of the flag were the gold/yellow is depicted a literal "gold" (which was the filename of the flag previously). The flags used in West Germany (and early East Germany) were the same design as today (and Weimar, although with slightly different aspect ratio).

I would say it is mistaken to have this "West Germany flag" (and "Germany 1919" as anything other than a change of aspect ratio) as a specific "chronological" flag from "Year X to Year Y", like this was the official design until they decided to change it, while the reality is they simply made official a set of colour values for consistency.

I dont think you should continue to spread the files to the "Weimar flag" and the "west Germany flag" you created/renamed yourself and replace all instances of the previous flags with the same colours as today with these "alternate" flags like this is the absolute truth in colour shades back then.
https://imgur.com/a/25mpBLJ
Here are a few examples from flags before, you can see that it is ineed the same shades used today (which is why these colours were standardized later), and not an alternate design which was changed. The "literal gold" flag should remain as a variant/alternative, but not as the definitive West German flag which is replacing the current/west german flag in instances across Wikipedia as the "correct one"....

PS. Why are you also trying to replace the flag of the Russian Empire with that of the Nazi client-state "the Slovak Republic"? Ive seen you do this both in the template of the flagicon of the Russian Empire and on the articles of the empire (and Russian Republic etc) without any sources (instead of the current Russian flag design, which was readopted after the fall of the Soviet Union)? You are straight up using the "Flag of the Slovak Republic (1939-1945).svg".... This is borderline vandalism and very strange behavior in what I can only assume is also some attempt at spreading the "previous design" of the Russian flag, since they Slovak flag of WW2 is very similar to the Russian flag, except with other colour shades, similarly to the West German flag situation.
PPS. I saw you have even the flag of Italy is affected by similar edits. The flag of Italy has not had any changes since its adoption in 1946 an the "1946-2003" flag (created and spread by you) should be the same as the current one. Only the brief 2003-2006 change should be the only variant since then.
PPPS. I also saw the flag 1929 variant in the China template is also a "variant" created and spread again by you (unsourced) instead of the Flag of the Republic of China.svg....
--Havsjö (talk) 09:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

I will take your suggestions into consideration. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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CIA World Factbook

After I wrote my previous post it seems I have found that the rabbit hole just goes deeper. You have circumvented any proper evidence/discussion for an extreme amount of flag changes in the templates as well as used the CIA World Factbook for many "variants". This book is not authoritative source and the pictures printed in it are not real "variants" of flags. Look at Brazil and its "1992 version" , as if it this bright blue was how the flag looked then, the same can be said for all variants in many flag templates. These files may exist as files, but they should not be included in the templates and especially not linked to a year. Just look at the articles on Wikipedia that now use this NON-EXISTANT flag as the flag of Brazil at that time... You have even changed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_1992 as if the flag was "officially changed" that year!!! These "WFB" variants can not persist!
All these crazy edits regarding flags are starting to crop up into a rather unacceptable amount with very careless behavior!
--Havsjö (talk) 11:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I will take your suggestions into consideration. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Accountability and template editing

I was disappointed to see the lack of detailed response to recent concerns about your editing. Please consider restoring these threads and giving a decent response to them.

You make a lot of edits related to flags. Many of these are without edit summary, on protected templates and without any discussion. When questioned by other editors, you seem to pay scant regard to their concerns. Several times before I have invited you to discuss your changes and you have declined or just written a single word response. On other occasions I have had to step in to revert your changes that are not supported by consensus.

For these reasons I am revoking your template editing userright. I would also urge to exercise caution in all your editing. I am quite sure that the majority of your edits are made in good faith to the benefit on the project. But more care and collaboration is needed, especially when editting protected templates. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Received and understood, although I must say that I don't think revoking is called for since I didn't even know that the edits in question were bothering others until recently, when it was posted onto my talk page. Revoking's not necessary, since I will stop doing whatever was bothering the complainants. That said, I honestly can't remember you in particular inviting me to a discussion. In any event, if editors involved want to continue the discussion on my talk page, I'll be more than obliged to respond provided they message me again. Regardless, I thank you for your courtesy. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Further explanation

Is there a reason why you archive threads so quickly on your talk page? I came here to offer some further explanation, but the thread has already gone.

• In May 2018 you made some controversial and unexplained changes to Template:Country data East Germany. These were questioned and a revert was requested in July. Then in November you came back and made a further change (again no edit summary) to the same template. You were pinged on the talk page twice failed to explain your changes. So a template editor had to revert you again.
• In June 2018 you made a slew of changes to Template:Country data FR Yugoslavia without any edit summaries. These were questioned on the talk page later that month. You were pinged, without response. I posted a request on your talk page that you come and explain your actions. Eventually you came an reverted and wrote "Done" which did not help to explain why the edit was made in the first place.
• Several editor have asked you to improve your use of edit summaries. I have seen a slight improvement recently, but you were still making many edits to protected templates without any explanation at all.
• Then there were the recent concerns by Havsjö which still have not had a response.

I hope this provides a better background and rationale for my actions yesterday — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your most gracious response and answer; it is satisfactorily detailed and addresses my concerns. I'll try to reciprocate and address your concerns in kind. As for archiving, that's just my style. One is still welcome to continue the discussion by posting another message, as you have done. I must admit, I do not check pings often (if at all) so I did not know about the first issue until just now (had I known I would've tried to rectify it); a better way to contact me would be to post directly onto my talk page, as you have done. In regards to the use of an edit summary, I admit I have been lacking recently in that area (for which I offer my commiserations), but have been trying to improve, especially after Wolfchild's most gracious request. Yours, – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 10:02, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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250k!

Congrats on breaking 250k!! FYI I made {{User 250,000 edits}} a few months back if you feel like using it. --Zackmann (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 07:53, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

{{User 250,000 edits}}

Thank you very much, friend. I appreciate it. ☺ YMHAOS, Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 18:54, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Vehicle registration plates of the United States for 1978

Hi! I'm the guy that recently created 105 articles in the "Vehicle registration plates of the United States for XXXX" series of articles. I've added the photos that I could find from 1901 to 1950 so far. I will keep working forward.

I do have one question though. You seem to keep changing the External links portion of the articles, but I don't understand why. I set them all up to have the U.S. portal, then the two license plate portals, and then the two year links. Is there something wrong with this setup? I was trying to create a standardized setup across all of the articles in order to make using them all easier to use.

Thanks for all that you've been doing to improve these license plate articles. Zcarstvnz (talk) 22:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IMO portals shouldn't really belong under external links, as it is not an external link (it redirects to Wikipedia). IMO it should be under a "See also" section, if there is no such section, no need for portal. Besides, the US portal is pretty broad for this topic anyway, automotive portal or something like that would be more fitting. YMHAOS, Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:38, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

problem IP editors

In relation to this, can you take a look at these edits? ([5], [6], [7] and [8]) There is strong evidence that there is a co-ordinated editing attack going on here - each account (76.68.105.33, 173.189.96.107, 69.159.137.199 and 42.115.49.135) has barely made a single edit, to the same page, occurring on the same date, occurring on around the same time of the day, removing the same kind of material. My theory based on the totality of the evidence is that User:Samnyasa is using a VPN to game the system but as I noted on the talk page the evidence is circumstantial so that is why I am appealing to you to see if there is anything you can do about it. Your action on this matter would be welcomed. Flickotown (talk) 20:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I don't think I can actually do much, as I'm not an administrator. You're better off going to an administrator since they're better equipped to deal with this sort of thing. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:09, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

My bad i see now you are a wikiquote admin, not an a wikipedia admin. Flickotown (talk) 20:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

S'all good, bro. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Double check, please

For the first time, I made more than minor changes to a page (one in which you've participated, in the past).

Since it was my first time, I'd appreciate an objective review;

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Florida_Lottery&type=revision&diff=881012520&oldid=873473076

Thank you.

BoringJim (talk) 22:06, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Seems good to me. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:07, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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File:Ralph Northam yearbook page with Klan robe and blackface.png

Please see Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 February 4. How do you know that the yearbook was published without a copyright notice? Has it been reported somewhere? Have you seen the full yearbook? --B (talk) 13:07, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi, if you disagree with it, you can revert it back to the fair use license if you wish. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 15:20, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Fixed. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Demonym

Hi, how are u?, I see here that you understand the situation about the demonyms of the countries, so, I want to ask you did you want to join in the descussion here and to help me to prove my claims. Namely, I'm claiming the the demonym refers to all the residents of one country and because of that the link for the demonym of the countries who have a dominant ethnic group, can't go to that ethnic group, but to the demographics of that country. I explained my claims and on my talk page, you can read them. Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sashko1999#The_DEMONYM_refers_to_all_citizens_of_one_country,_and_the_ETHNONYM_refers_to_people_of_a_particular_ethnic_group Sashko1999 (talk) 13:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't know what more I can do to sway the winds, as it looks like the consensus is clear. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Foss

Thank you for creating this page for others to learn a bit about this forgotten area. Honestly, I am glad it is forgotten, or at least not widely known to exist. Places of natural beauty should, in my opinion, be largely unknown to the general population.

Thank you also for being an integral part of why Wikipedia is fantastic beyond all reason! Dizmaly (talk) 07:07, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words, but I have no idea what you are referring to, this "Foss". – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:46, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

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Change the name of the articles about North Macedonia

There are many articles about North Macedonia in English Wikipedia, such as "President of Macedonia", "History of the Republic of Macedonia", "Military history of the Republic of Macedonia", "Template:Year in the Republic of Macedonia", "List of years in the Republic of Macedonia", "2019 in the Republic of Macedonia", "2019 Macedonian presidential election", "Politics of the Republic of Macedonia", "Macedonian cuisine", "Languages of the Republic of Macedonia", and so on. Because Republic of Macedonia has changed its name to North Macedonia, it is time to replace "Macedonia" or "the Republic of Macedonia" with "North Macedonia", and replace "Macedonian" with "North Macedonian", in these articles' titles. Please talk about these relative move requests in only one article's talk page. In addition, the articles "Prime Minister of North Macedonia", "Elections in North Macedonia", "Constitution of North Macedonia", and "Municipalities of North Macedonia" have already changed their titles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.253.193.99 (talk) 14:09, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Your counsel has been duly noted and I have moved some of the pages you mentioned. YMHAOS, – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:11, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

North Macedonia infobox title

Would this be the right way to format the infobox? I was told it only applies to former countries, but I'd like your opinion on this. Cards84664 (talk) 20:46, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

No, they're right. That method would only be for former countries. North Macedonia still exists, therefore the former name is not appropriate here. YMHAOS, – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:32, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

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Ask for help

Hi dear friend in this page : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_name_Khuzestan

We have a great deal of problem with what appears to be Persian users Community that wants to push their view and block other information, There are phrases in this Article that ment to change clear historical records and don't even has a Refrence , any request for Refrence being removed by these users with no logic, we even explained the problem in Talk page but they refuse to responded and keep,reverting the ask for reference, they simply use our lack of understanding of wiki rules to push their ideas and block any opininon , please check the page and help us to deal with this issue

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NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Illegitimate Barrister,

News

• The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.

Discussions of interest

• Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
• {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
• A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
• There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.

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Hello,

I’m seeking to get my sister’s and myself wiki page published. She was killed on September 11th, 2001 in the terrorist atracks. Would you be willing to assist with that? I’m new to Wikipedia, if this is not the proper process, do let me know. Thank you.

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Saudis

Hi. FYI: Talk:Saudis § Requested move 5 May 2015 —[AlanM1(talk)]— 08:01, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Dankie, maat. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 15:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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Vortex

Hi. All well? I'm assuming that the RM was in good faith by absence of caffeine, happens to us all. Could you withdraw and close please. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:38, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

You're right; 'twas a mistake. I have withdrawn it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for contributing so much to Wikipedia. I appreciate the work you have done. ⠀Glosome⠀ 05:21, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate that. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:01, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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Fair enough. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019

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IRCM third campaign phase

Just a heads-up, we need a new SVG reflecting three stars after the recent DOD update for the IRCM; please see my edit here. Thanks! AzureCitizen (talk) 13:16, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

I've put in a temp fix for the moment while I get to working on that. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Appreciate that, and no rush. The temp fix will work fine until you get the new SVG up. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Done! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:50, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Excellent, looks great!  :) AzureCitizen (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

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Heads up

There's a bug in Wikipedia where PNGs thumbnail quite blurry compared to JPEGs, so it's usually better to stay with JPEG versions (and make sure PNGs are available, of course). Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 6.6% of all FPs} 13:09, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the heads up. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 02:32, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

PNG vs JPEG

I always include PNG copies for my images, which should be identical, so...

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How visible it is varies by image, but these were fairly arbitrarily selected from my FPs for this year. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 6.7% of all FPs} 22:48, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Indeed, I did notice a difference in how sharper JPG thumbs were compared to PNGs in recent years. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:49, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kang Hyun-wook (politician)

The article Kang Hyun-wook (politician) has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:52, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Fixed; source now added. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 07:57, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Jack (flag)

I must say, a very nice coat of polish. J S Ayer (talk) 04:27, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Dankie, maat. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Archive for Talk:History of South Africa

I noticed you have a very well formatted talk page with archive links. Do you mind terribly doing the same to the talk page for History of South Africa? It is getting rather bloated with comments from more than a decade ago floating around and could use an archive - but my attempts at doing so have been messy. I would like to rally some users to improve what is rapidly becoming a dreadful page, and a nice clean talk page would contribute to discussion on what needs to be done.

And of course if you are interested in performing some of your copy editing magic on the page, feel free! It sorely needs it. Francoisdjvr (talk) 11:39, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Done. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 14:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Francoisdjvr (talk) 14:18, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019

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Infoboxes

I have reverted another of your edits for Savannah, Georgia. You are changing the existing WP format of one U.S. city infobox. If you look at other U.S. city articles, the county name appears directly below the state flag, aligned left, without a "no flag" message. Your additional message shifts the county name to the right, out of alignment. You cannot make one U.S. city's format an exception to all other U.S. city article in Wikipedia. Should you persist with these intrusive (and wrongheaded) changes, I will take this up with a WP administrator. You were blocked earlier this year for similar edits.Mason.Jones (talk) 15:09, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

infobox errors

In this edit, you added a para that doesn't exist. It should have been |stat_pop1= instead of |population=. And you have made other similar kinds of errors in different countries recently that I have also fixed. Surely you Preview before saving changes. MB 03:53, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

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Interview request

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We have observed that you are an active editor in the Wikipedia community and that you have contributed in an article of our interest for several years (War in Donbass 2015-2018 period). This experience is of great interest to us. If you would be interested in participating in this research or would like more information, please do not hesitate to contact me through the Wikipedia mailbox or my personal talkpage. It would be a great help.

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EDIT: Apologies if this message should not go here. I clicked on your "start a new topic button"

Sources needed for Days of the Year pages

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Any particular edits of mine in question? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I've added it back, with an WP:RS this time. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:18, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Don't know exactly what you mean by source, I mean, the addition has a corresponding Wikipedia article after all. I figured that's source enough. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Estonian flag

Hi. In light of current info and comments provided at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Estonia (1918–1940, 1990–2014).svg there is no reason to think that flag colours or aspect ratio changed in 2002 or 2014. Why do keep adding this obviously erroneous image to Wikipedia articles? 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:244D:C17E:43CC:DDB1 (talk) 18:33, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019

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DYK nomination of Suicide in Finland

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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019

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Therichest.com as a source

Hi Illegitimate Barrister. I noticed that you recently used therichest.com as a source for biographical information in Monica Beltran. Please note that the general consensus as expressed at WP:RSN is that therichest.com does not meet the reliable sourcing criteria for the inclusion of personal information in such articles. If you disagree, let's discuss it. Thanks.--Ronz (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Romanian anthem in the article about Albania's national anthem

I noticed that a Romanian anthem is in Himni i Flamurit. This article is about Albania's not Romania's. Please do something about this. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 08:48, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

If you mean the section Himni_i_Flamurit#Proposed_state_anthem_of_Romania then you can just blank it out from the page. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019

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Backlog

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Coordinator

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This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

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The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019

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"Wiscansin" listed at Redirects for discussion

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GMDD

Sorry, wrong recipient.

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"CRT T.V." listed at Redirects for discussion

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New message from Narutolovehinata5

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Your feedback is also requested at Template:Did you know nominations/Mawtini (Zanbaka song). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/List of sovereign states in 1781

Hello. Are you still interested in continuing this nomination? You received a talk page message yesterday, but archived it without responding on the nomination page. If you still wish for the nomination, please respond as soon as possible either here or on the DYK page, as the nomination has been open for weeks now without any further response from you. Thank you and happy editing. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

I've done all I can at this point, it's in the hands of my compatriots to approve or decline. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 22:01, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mawtini (Zanbaka song)

Hello! Your submission of Mawtini (Zanbaka song) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 23:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Illegitimate Barrister, this article currently has 466 prose characters, less than a third of the required minimum of 1500. If you plan to expand it by the necessary 1034 characters, please let us know. Otherwise, the nomination will probably be closed soon. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Fraid that's as big as it's gonna be since there's not many sources on it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 13:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Westerwaldlied (song)

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Microsoft Flight Simulator (video game)

I saw this edit:

"Illegitimate Barrister moved page Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020 video game) to Microsoft Flight Simulator (video game): No other game by this exact name."

That is not really true. Up until, and maybe including, "Microsoft Flight Simulator for Windows 95", all releases in the series were titled "Microsoft Flight Simulator". They were assigned version numbers (e.g. 1.0, 2.0, 5.1) to tell them apart. See also [9]. I recommend changing the page title back to avoid confusion with these older titles. --Vossanova ^o< 20:36, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Vossanova: Done; also created redirects for those games to maintain consistency. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:50, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Westerwandlied

FYI, your DYK nomination for this article is about to be rejected for insufficient length. Fiamh ^{(talk, contribs)} 02:43, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Fair enough, I've done all I can for the article. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:49, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Relay Ball

I seen your edit from Dekalb Junction, New York can you edit my Relay Ball game here is the info you need https://medium.com/@zanegardner/relay-ball-a-new-ball-and-game-sport-idea-developed-by-zane-gardner-you-kick-the-ball-and-try-to-5d76371dd5d1 Relayball47 (talk) 00:51, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Quoi? Not sure what you mean. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 00:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Relay Ball

I kind of wanted a Relay Ball article on here if I can I have enough in topend sports https://www.topendsports.com/sport/new/relay-ball.htm Relayball47 (talk) 01:01, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter November 2019

Hello Illegitimate Barrister,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 818 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
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Coordinator

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This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools

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Nomination of List of national anthems in 1983 for deletion

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The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Willbb234 on Allied pilots, Hawkeye7 on the defence of Australia and logistics in Indochina, Nick-D on Australian commandos Op-ed: Hawkeye7 reports back on a high-profile history symposium

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Hello! I saw you edited some contents for the wikipedia page: Romanticism. I am new to Wikipedian community, and I drafted a wikipedia page: mythological painting and moved it to main namespace. Could you give me some comments/ suggestions to my first editing? Any of your editing are welcomed! Thank you! LIADEVON (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and done some copyedits to it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:57, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019

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New Page Review newsletter December 2019

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days

Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	Rosguill (talk)	47,395	Patrol Page Curation
2	Onel5969 (talk)	41,883	Patrol Page Curation
3	JTtheOG (talk)	11,493	Patrol Page Curation
4	Arthistorian1977 (talk)	5,562	Patrol Page Curation
5	DannyS712 (talk)	4,866	Patrol Page Curation
6	CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk)	3,995	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	3,812	Patrol Page Curation
8	Boleyn (talk)	3,655	Patrol Page Curation
9	Ymblanter (talk)	3,553	Patrol Page Curation
10	Cwmhiraeth (talk)	3,522	Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

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Source Guide Discussion

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FYI about sanctions

I don't think you have any particular stake in this controversy, but I saw that you made several copy edits to North/Macedonian stuff recently. Basically, you should be really careful about edits like this because some people are pretty sensitive about the Republic of Macedonia redirect. Generally, according to the advice it has listed, you shouldn't really replace targets to to with with a different pipe.
So like... be aware of that I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (edit conflict) –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 01:43, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

Alrightey, gotit. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:45, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

President vs. Commander in Chief

Hope you are doing well. I recently made a WP:BOLD series of edits to change commander in Chief in the info boxes from commander in Chief to president, to better align with the intent of using the title of the individual for that section. Last time there was a debate on this in 2017 there was no consensus. If you disagree and think it should be commander in Chief I can revert myself on those pages and we can start a new discussion thread? Garuda28 (talk) 05:08, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

I think CIC is better since it represents the relevance to the chain of command. Take the head of state of Canada, she is referred to as the queen of Canada in a Canadian context despite also being the queen of the UK simultaneously. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:06, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

United States Space Force BRD

Hey, I know you said you don't check your notifications, but I reverted your edit on U.S. Space Force here [10] because it was unexplained and is inconsistent with the Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps pages (I realize you changed the Army one back in November) and then you re-removed the information a few hours later [11]. I've edited with you long enough to know that you don't intentional edit war and understand it was likely an oversight. Do you want to collectively start a discussion at this topic at the United States Armed Forces page so we can get a consensus for all of the service pages at once?Garuda28 (talk) 19:55, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Didn't know; I won't revert it again now that you've mentioned it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:04, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

No worries at all. I've done the same.Garuda28 (talk) 20:05, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

U.S. Armed Force service branch list

I guess I'm here now twice in one day. So with regard to the list of service branches on United States Armed Forces, I'm personally good with it being either way in terms of "U.S." or spelled out "United States," but do have some concerns about inconsistent usage within the same listing. Since its in an infobox table, I'm not particularly worried about having the first usage spelled out, but I completely see where you're coming from. What do you think about having the table all be "U.S." for consistency, and then in the introductory paragraph having it spell out "It consists of the [United States] Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and Coast Guard.", so that way the first usage is spelled out. An alternate solution, and I don't know how to do this, would be to widen the table like it is at Uniformed Services of the United States so that they are all spelled out without going to another line. I think that would address both of our concerns. What do you think? Garuda28 (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

That sounds good. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:28, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Good luck

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File:Bosnia and Herzegovina's national anthem.ogg

I think you're going about challenging the non-free use of this file in Bosnia and Herzegovina the wrong way and your approach is likely only going to lead to edit warring. If you want to challenge the file's non-free use in that article, it's OK to be WP:BOLD once and remove it and then remove the corresponding non-free use rationale from the file's page. However, once the removal file and its corresponding non-free use rationale have been challenge by another editor by re-adding both, you're moving into WP:BRRD territory. If the non-free use is clearly some violation of WP:NFCC (for example, WP:NFCC#9), then you probably can get by by claiming that removing it again is an exemption to 3RR/edit warring; however, whether the file meets WP:NFCC#8 or even WP:NFCC#1 is always not so clear and may require further review, and thus would not highly unlikely considered to be a such an exemption. My suggestion to you would be to restore the file and its rationale and then add {{di-disputed fair use rationale}} to the file's page or start a discussion about it at FFD; in the first case, an admin will assess the use and decide whether it should be removed or further discussion at FFD is necessary, while in the second case you go straight to FFD. It's up to you whether you do this, but I've seen editors get blocked (even indefinitely blocked) for edit warring over this kind of thing. When there was no rationale provided for the use, there was nothing to assess so removing the file could reasonably argued as being unquestionably a violation of WP:NFCC; however, once the rationale was provided for the use, then, unless it's completely and clearly invalid (e.g. providing a rationale for any page outside of the article namespace), it's probably better to not just remove the rationale and then remove the file unless you really think that doing so is going to be 100% unquestionably not contentious, which is almost never the case for NFCC#8. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid I won't restore it, but if somebody else decides to then I won't object to it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 04:59, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

That's fine and I'm not necessarily saying your assessment of that particular use is wrong; just that it may need to be challenged in another way if someone does dispute this. This time the file in question is being used in another article, but sometimes being bold can result in a file deleted per WP:F5. That's OK if the use is clearly a WP:NFCCP violation, but can cause problem with borderline cases since it can result in deletion by default without any discussion, and files deleted as orphans will be often be restored upon request unless the proposed non-free use is so clearly not policy compliant. You've been an editor much longer than me and thus have probably been working with files also much longer than me; so, you've probably already experienced something like this, but what's acceptable as non-free use is not always agreed upon and those who decide try to try and clean up non-free use are viewed by some (particularly those in favor of unrestricted non-free use) as actually being more of a problem than those who might be using non-free files "inappropriately". -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:24, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Rank and insignia templates

Hey Illegitimate Barrister, I have some questions/"issues" with some of the changes that you have made recently. Firstly, is there a difference between templates such as Template:Chief of military by country and the rank insignia ones, since this template can have a capital E (for edit), while ranks can't? Cause right now there are almost 1.240 rank and insignia templates, which all have a capital E; seems like a lot of work for something so insignificant as that. Secondly, concerning specifically the US navy enlisted one. I get there is a need for more inclusive ranks; but when half of the rank images are removed, how that more inclusive and not less? Furthermore, the images are all black, making it hard to see anything. The image for master chief petty officer is especially bad. If people really feel left out because their specific colour isn't present, and the current way simply cannot be use for what ever reason. Shouldn't it just display the summer version (which have no colour), the bright visible version, or at least some other form of Vector image? Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 15:57, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

If we do the bright visible version, then we'd have to add two images (since for PO1 through PO3 there's one variation each with gold and silver chevrons) for inclusiveness and consistency. I picked the black one since doing that would mean just having one image per rank and I didn't want to clutter up the template with multiple images per rank. I would have picked AOR camo NWU ranks, but I couldn't find a rank pic for the MCPON. The way the images were before showed the boatswain's mate variation for PO3 through MCPO (not everyone is a boatswain's mate) and in red for PO and gold for CPO, when some PO have gold and CPO have red. That's what I meant by inclusiveness and consistency. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 08:07, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

@Illegitimate Barrister: Don't get me wrong, I understood your point of inclusiveness, and I agree. I just argued it seemed like a moot point, since half of the rank images were removed, being less inclusive for the higher ranks. In any case, I can see you have already made some of them in vector, so changing/remaking them to a subdued version is a possibility. I made a quick attempt to make a subdued version of Senior chief petty officer. The black on black make it hard to see distinguishing features, but at least it is a vector image now. I think that if the table should have the subdued version, then they should at least be vector images, and maybe remove the Command ranks since their insignia is the same and they don't have articles. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Surudi Milli English translation

I have made a comment about my questions concerning the Tajikistan national anthem's English translation on the talk page. Let me know if you have any thoughts about the translation issue I am seeing. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:43, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Will do! – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 12:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ustad Qasim

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The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020

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DYK for Ustad Qasim

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license tag

Hey IB, you might know better, do you think the license tag works? I put PD via it being state government work. File: S-76 State of Illinois. Not sure for the state of Illinois, tho. - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Not all U.S. states have instant public domain release for municipal/state governmental works, the only ones I know for certain that do it are Florida and California (maybe Massachusetts, but not exactly sure on that). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

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New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

Hello Illegitimate Barrister,

Source Guide Discussion

The first NPP source guide discussion is now underway. It covers a wide range of sources in Ghana with the goal of providing more guidance to reviewers about sources they might see when reviewing pages. Hopefully, new page reviewers will join others interested in reliable sources and those with expertise in these sources to make the discussion a success.

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Sub 12-year Command/Force/Fleet and MCPON rank insignia

I see that you have created rank insignias for the above titled, but I have never seen in my time working for the Navy's Bureau of Naval Personnel an instance or rank structure with red chevron Command Master Chiefs, Force Master Chiefs, Fleet Master Chiefs, or the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy. Normally these officers in senior enlisted positions who face legal or ethical scrutiny are forced to retire rather than retained by the Navy. By some miracle that a Command Master Chief or Force/Fleet Master Chief who is retained by the Navy, would be removed from their senior position as Command/Force/Fleet Master Chief and are "reverted" back to their original specialty rating Master Chief rank, or they would receive a demotion below the E-9 rank. As such, there has never been an instance that I've seen or have heard of the practice of the red chevron in these ranks. It is my belief that these were created in good faith by you, but they lack definitive accuracy of their existence or practice in the real world use of the Navy. I think they should be removed from the List of United States Navy enlisted rates unless you can direct me to proof of such existence of their use. Neovu79 (talk) 07:44, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

They're rare, but they do exist. Here's a pic of one. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 20:06, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Fair enough of a command master chief, but for a Fleet/Force and MCPON, I have not seem them ever been appointed from the Master Chief Corps that have not at least had 12 years of good conduct. Would you be able to provide a source of real world application of red chevrons for them? Neovu79 (talk) 20:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

OPNAV REG 4211(2)(c), does state that Fleet/Force Master Chief Petty Officers. Wear two gold stars above the eagle and one gold star in place of the specialty mark. but it does not address nor display the usage of red chevrons. For the sake of accuracy, we cannot check for verifiablity of their existence. Even though I really do appreciate that you took the time to create them, they just are not accurate. Neovu79 (talk) 06:13, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Isn't it still theoretically possible in the regs for one to exist, rare as it may be? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Theoretically yes, but since we already know that the Navy has established their own regulations governing ranks and how they should look like, we should not draw our own opinion on policies and regulations that we do not have control over. We should not be posting original research as we do not have a basis for verifiability.Neovu79 (talk) 22:15, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Navy enlisted 12 year mark policy change

This article may interest you. They Navy has done away with the "misconduct" red and now ALL sailors that reach 12 years of service will be allowed to wear gold chevrons. Gold for all: Navy ending use of red ‘misconduct’ uniform stripes Neovu79 (talk) 04:13, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, I actually edited the corresponding Wikipedia article to reflect the change. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Infobox law enforcement agency

Your suggestive layout created some major havoc on some of the platforms, vertical works the best. - FOX 52 (talk) 19:48, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

That's odd, I tested it out in the template's testcases/sandbox before making the edit, could you give some examples of where it went wrong? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 06:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Uniforms of the United States Space Force

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I've done all I can for it. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Editing War on United States Army Special Forces Foundation Date

In recent weeks, there has been an editing war on United States Army Special Forces regarding the foundation date. I have responded in article's talk page. I would appreciate if you could please review and weigh in on the ongoing discussion. Thank you. -Signaleer (talk) 14:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

I'd just put both dates, since that's what other pages do (see US Space Force). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 19:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

"ACW causes" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020

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If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 01:52, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Infobox fire department

FOX 52 posted on your talk page on 17 Feburary 2020 regarding Infobox law enforcement agency which they had reverted but not Template:Infobox fire department which they had also reverted. Originally there was only a logo parameter, in January 2017 you added patch and flag. I created a testcase infobox fire department for images. In the testcase, I have changed the code similar to Template:Infobox law enforcement agency which sets all the images at the same size and if no image size is chosen defaults to 140px. A logo is used on 237 pages few use flag with only 5 or patch with only 6. --Melbguy05 (talk) 12:38, 26 March 2020 (UTC)