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comment disappearingEdit

In my AnRet compulsion to make sure I didn't somehow remove it along with other important things (by inadvertently editing an old version or something), what looks like happened is you posted your !vote but without signing. @Enos733 made an identical vote immediately below. @Vanamonde93 removed your unsigned identical comment as an apparent copy-paste error/dup. :D Valereee (talk) 16:24, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

  • That's on me, but to be fair it looked very like a copy-paste error...apologies. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:45, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
    It totally did look like a copy-paste error creating a dup. I noticed when the comment disappeared but figured Thryduulf was rethinking. Valereee (talk) 17:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
    At that explains things. Sorry for the confusion! Thryduulf (talk) 18:46, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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Hey ThryduulfEdit

Can you close the TNT (TV station) RfD tomorrow or on Monday once the other people who are contributing to the discussion of TNT (TV station) withdraw their votes. Bassie f (talk) 03:46, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

No, because I'm WP:INVOLVED. Thryduulf (talk) 08:55, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to botherEdit

Hey, not related to the EC protection. But i have a feeling that this is recently cbanned user LaserLegs. Writing style was a red flag, checked geo location and that matched as well from the information they shared previously. Anything to be done about the quacking? Don't really see the point of going to SPI, they won't connect ip's to accounts anyway, right? Any suggestions how to proceed, your opinion on the matter would be nice. Have a good day anyway. 91.96.24.241 (talk) 13:01, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

WaltCip does agree that it is a sock as well. Wrote to me on my talk minutes after my msg here. Just as an fyi. 91.96.24.241 (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
I've replied on your talk page to keep discussion in one place. Thryduulf (talk) 13:23, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

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BarnstarEdit

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For your hard work in the effort to get Robbie Coltrane to RD quality when it appeared doomed to not be included on quality grounds from the start; I award you this barnstar of citations! You recognized how important it was to get Hagrid onto RD owing to the emotional response of people to the beloved actor’s death (even the oppose votes were visibly upset and reluctant about their vote), so you worked hard to make it happen to the glee of the fellow Wikipedians. Well Done! :) DrewieStewie (talk) 11:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

ANIEdit

Very disappointing. – Sca (talk) 13:43, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Since the RfD for Sovereign Protectors was closed, are you planning on starting one for Royal Guardsman? – Scyrme (talk) 18:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

It's rather fallen off my radar, but I do intend to doing it if someone doesn't get there first. Thryduulf (talk) 19:24, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Seems someone has: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 1#Royal GuardsmanScyrme (talk) 17:36, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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... for a constructive comment in the Laurence Olivier RfC, to which I referred in my arbcand questions. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

you're welcome. Thryduulf (talk) 11:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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Memory lossEdit

I can remember promising.. but I can't remember what. Was it this link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mujnfycbt6e1vte/AADuBeU6_RcY-CxA4_yv1bvra?dl=0

User:ClemRutter 81.174.224.233 (talk) 11:24, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

It was indeed, thank you. I'll grab them today. Thryduulf (talk) 11:27, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Not sure how to deal with this...Edit

Hey Thryduulf - I'm hoping you can help me with a problem I have. I'd ask my assigned wikimentor (Dr vulpes), but it seems they haven't been very active of late...

I see one user consistently WP:GAMING the system, and I don't see any path toward resolution. In our many interactions, I've realized that reasoning with them doesn't work, so I can't ask them to stop. And on that guideline page, there's no clear cut method for how to deal with this problem; it's mostly information on how to identify gaming.

The more I read of that guideline, the more checks I realized this user was ticking off, and the more concerned I became that there's nothing that can be done to stop this. The behaviors they're exhibiting among the clear examples on that guideline are:

  • Filibustering the consensus-building process by sticking to a viewpoint that the community has clearly rejected
  • Using policies to prove a WP:POINT that they had previously emphatically argued against
  • Always muddying the waters in disputes (encouraging tangents, not materially addressing topics, etc)
  • Frequently quotes policy without explaining why it's relevant; on the converse, they often claim "policy is on my side" without linking to any policy
  • And more... don't want to get too deep here

Is there any way to get someone to stop behaving like this? I've explored the various noticeboards and enforcement methods, but I don't want to jump right to those without building a strong case. Further, I'm not even sure there's an appropriate board for something like this...

Any advice you can give, either as an administrator or as an experienced editor, would be much appreciated. I'm getting pretty disheartened here that this is a problem with no solution. Thank you. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 23:23, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

If you can supply diffs of all the things that you allege the editor is doing, then you have more than a strong enough case to start a discussion at WP:AN/I. As you'll have noticed I'm also not the most active I've ever been at the moment (that damned real life!) so I can't really help you with putting an AN/I post together, and anyway without knowing who the editor in question is I can't advise how strong your case actually is. Thryduulf (talk) 23:27, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Sorry I'm a week late with this, but thank you for the advice and suggestion! The ANI thread I opened has... not gone well. But I'm trying to work through that. Anyway, I appreciate you taking the time to help. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 17:27, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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closed means closedEdit

Why is it acceptable to close a discussion eight hours into it? nableezy - 23:21, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Nableezy: I think that you should be directing your question to Kiril Simeonovski (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I did that implicitly in my comment on WT:ITN. But that too was archived. nableezy - 02:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Because it was the wrong venue (as is this page). You should have asked explicitly by means of a direct question at User talk:Kiril Simeonovski, a page which I find has never been edited by yourself. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
When a discussion has been had multiple times and come to the same conclusion each time, the latest discussion brings nothing new to the table and has already generated exactly the same answers as the last times the discussion will not result in anything other than a waste of time and possible acrimony. It's better for the project to close such discussions before that happens.
If you object to a discussion being closed, you need to discuss that with the person who closed the discussion on their talk page. Continuing if the discussion had not been closed is disruptive. Thryduulf (talk) 03:29, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Why is an editor permitted to determine that a discussion will not bring anything new to the table within 8 hours? Why can I not raise the issue in the same forum as the closure? If I open an RFC to add that item to ITN/R, with an RFC tag, will that also be closed out of process? Will that be disruptive of me? nableezy - 04:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Because there are no new arguments to be made. There is a very strong consensus that for items to be added to ITNR they must have had consensus to post for at least two consecutive instances at ITNC (some people want more than that) and (a slightly weaker but still strong) consensus that only the top level of sports events should be posted. The nominated item met neither of those criteria. Yes, reopening or continuing the discussion now, with or without an RfC tag, will be considered disruptive and closure will not be out of process.
Given that despite being on Wikipedia for over a decade you consider an uncivil, sarcastic comment followed by arguing about it with an administrator who was not the one to take the action you disagreed with to be appropriate behaviour, I am not going to engage further with you on this matter. Thryduulf (talk) 06:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I apologize for angering the gatekeepers. nableezy - 14:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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I edited your comment without permission yesterdayEdit

@Thryduulf, I edited your comment yesterday on Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 January 16#File:Southern Cross Ten.svg to include my actual gender without permission. Next time, only if I say, can I edit your comment with permission? and only if you say, Yes you can edit your comment, I may edit your comments. Just letting you know. From Bas. From Bassie f (his talk page) 01:58, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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