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Request to use part of a photoEdit

I needed part of a photo for an article and it shows you are the one who created it. I just discovered this photo and realize while the middle section is not ideal, it's better than the current photo of St. John's Lutheran Church (Salisbury, North Carolina).

Do you know who could make this happen?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: My part in creating File:Mint Museum in uptown Charlotte, North Carolina crop.jpg was, as shown in the summary on the file description page, limited to cropping down an existing image - File:Mint Museum in uptown Charlotte, North Carolina.jpg. You could crop down File:SalisburyNCMontageUpdated.jpg, but since it's a montage of several component images, it would be better to ask its uploader, Kharris0317 (talk · contribs), where to find the component you wish to use solo. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I don't know how to crop but you apparently do.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
There are various utilities. I use one called ZoomBrowser EX which came with my Canon camera, but you can use Adobe Photoshop, IrfanView, Microsoft Office Picture Manager, or even Microsoft Paint. With most of them, you load an image, select the crop (or trim) tool, drag the edges about, click an "OK" (or "Confirm") button, then save it. Make sure that you save it with a new name so as not to damage the original, just in case the new version was unsuitable and needs to be redone. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:59, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Someone did show me how to use Paint for screenshots when I was asking questions on WP:VPT or the reference desk. And I have used something similar with NewsBank and newspapers.com.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Okay, I will need that person to help me again and during COVID-19 that's unlikely.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Pardon me for joining in. The best software by far for simple cropping and rescaling is Irfanview (mentioned above). I've used it for years for mostly just those two simple tasks. If you want help with a specific image, happy to help/instruct. Bazza (talk) 08:44, 25 September 2020 (UTC)


They have almost 4000 edits - I'd assumed they were a new editor until I checked. You'd think they'd be more capable. Doug Weller talk 15:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Indian subcontinentEdit

I have made the correction you suggested, and that helped to get some comments already. But won't you participate? Aditya(talkcontribs) 23:29, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Busy in real life?   Aditya(talkcontribs) 08:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes. I have a job, and unlike a lot of people in this country, I have not been sent home to mooch around for weeks on end. Since March, I've done extra time covering for people who have stayed at home; and that will include tomorrow. My taxes pay for their furlough. No, I won't participate, my interest was solely on getting the bad entry in the RfC listings fixed, and this fix to a badly-constructed list. I do wish people would read the directions. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering. I am. Doing 70+ hours a week myself, plus some 20 hours of commute (transport is difficult these days). I think I understand the pain somewhat. Hopefully we shall meet again on nicer grounds someday. Thanks for the help.   I was just impatient about low participation (which partly is because the RfC was "malformed", unfortunately). As for instructions... I think only the most work-free people has the time to read the thousands of pages of instruction WP has these days. I am not one of them. Aditya(talkcontribs) 23:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Crewe to Shrewsbury RailwayEdit

Hi RedRose64

I saw you reverted my edit on the article of Crewe and Shrewsbury Railway but called it constructive. May I just ask why as the line still sees use and isn't a former railway as the article mentioned "was a railway that connected Crewe to Shrewsbury". I understand the line isn't under that name anymore but it's still in use aside from the branch lines.

I'm just curious why its constructive but I've reverted to a more constructive lead. If you can fill me in on what is unconstructive about it. I'd appreciate it.

Thank you kindly

Signed: RailwayJG, 25th September 2020, 19:25. RailwayJG (talk) 18:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Meant unconstructive sorry auto correct RailwayJG (talk) 18:26, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

You refer, I presume, to this edit (when querying an edit, you should always provide a WP:DIFF), The grammar and spelling are bad. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:40, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

A dogEdit

Hi Redrose...I was about to create an article titled "Gerberian Shepsky" but I can't....can you help. It has a redirect to cross-breeds but I think it can have its own page. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:14, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

It was redirected following (but not as a consequence of) this AfD. You could ask Cunard (talk · contribs), who redirected it, or just WP:BEBOLD - it's not protected. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:23, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to be bold but I don't know how...maybe Philafrenzy or Edwardx could kindly stub and I'll expand. One of them kindly forwarded some scientific evidence on dog eye muscles. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
First follow the link Gerberian Shepsky, this takes you to a point part-way down List of dog crossbreeds. Go to the top, and below the page title and the familiar text "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" is a line reading "(Redirected from Gerberian Shepsky)". Click that link, and you reach the redirect itself. Either edit that directly, or click its history tab and select an old version to view. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:09, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I had a go...thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Something about how their eyes have evolved to appeal to us I think. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:56, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Track layoutsEdit

If track layouts for New York Subway stations can exist on their respective pages, why should London Underground stations not have the same thing on their pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DragonRider1563 (talkcontribs) 09:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

@DragonRider1563: One, the London Underground is not in New York. Two, it was agreed some time ago that track layout diagrams should not be included in the articles for UK stations. Three, your repeated re-adding without seeking consensus is becoming disruptive. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:54, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Missing cite in NBR 224 and 420 ClassesEdit

You have added a short reference to "Ellis 1959" but no such source is listed in bibliography. Can you please add? Also, suggest installing a script to highlight such errors in the future. All you need to do is copy and paste importScript('User:Svick/HarvErrors.js'); // Backlink: [[User:Svick/HarvErrors.js]] to your common.js page. Thanks, Renata (talk) 07:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I started off by using the first edition of 1955 but switched to a second edition of 1959, forgetting to amend in both places. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Images in correct sectionsEdit

Saw your mention on the Networker article; apologies for unintentionally causing accessibility issues with the replacement of images. However, I don’t seem to understand how the new images I am putting in are ending up at the bottom of the previous section, as I am pasting the new images in the exact location of the ones I am replacing. When doing this on PC, the replacement images appear in the correct place they should be whereas on mobile, they aren’t like this at all (for me anyway). Is there anything I can do about this in the future as I use PC to edit images on articles and if the placement of them isn’t different when it actually is, I don’t see much I can do about it?

Thanks, hope this makes sense. --SavageKieran (talk) 16:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

What is PC - personal computer, pending changes, or something else? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
I mean my personal computer by this. --SavageKieran (talk) 20:31, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
I would suggest that instead of editing the whole article, you edit only the section concerned - use the [edit] link that appears to the right of the heading text. When doing so, you take care not to put anything above the section heading - that's the line that looks like this:
=== Class 166 ===
In a section, the order should normally be: heading; {{main}} (if relevant, as with Networker (train)#Class 166); image; text. Use a single newline between each of those elements. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:59, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Appreciate that, thanks. I will aim to do this in the future, apologies for any inconvenience in my edits. --SavageKieran (talk) 00:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Expired editnoticesEdit


A tag has been placed on Category:Expired editnotices requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Coding heroEdit

Thank you for this fix to my edit on WP:MERGETEXT! Your solution is almost where I started, but I didn't think to included the 4= and then just drifted away from the clean code I envisioned as I kludged together the behavior I was seeking. I'm not surprised you were the one to come to my rescue, but I appreciate it! —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 01:23, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!Edit

  Wishing Redrose64 a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! History DMZ (talk)+(ping) 04:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
  Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:46, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


Hi - okay that's really weird. In making the most recent edit on London Underground, all I did was change the month from February to October. Why did it change to "US"?! The tone is a bit accusatory for something that ... I suspect the visual editor changed in the process. Obviously London isn't in America, I'm not an idiot. Turini2 (talk) 09:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

The "US" appears to have been added by the Visual Editor. SUM1 added "autovalue: US" to {{As of}}'s Visual Editor Template Data code section in this edit on 10 March 2020 (or March 10, 2020, for those of us on the wrong side of the pond). I don't think that addition was valid, but I don't edit Template Data. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:52, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!Edit

  Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:47, 14 October 2020 (UTC)


I am truly so sorry for being a doofus about how to do an RFC. Thanks for your notes on that! Novellasyes (talk) 13:24, 17 October 2020 (UTC)


Hey Redrose,

I’m new to Wikipedia but I saw that you closed another RFC as well. Could you close the RFC on the page Arameans as well? There has already been done a request Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Requests_for_closure#Talk:Arameans#RFC_on_purpose_of_this_article

Kind regards and thanks in advance! Velonici (talk) 05:06, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

When you wrote I saw that you closed another RFC as well, which RfC are you referring to?
As for the Arameans one, that's been closed by Rosguill (talk · contribs) - normally all you need to do is wait for somebody to pick it up. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Removal at RfC ClosureEdit

I guess I misunderstood the instruction, and thought I were supposed to replace the text and mark up with the request text and mark up. Sorry about that. Aditya() 20:47, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

RfC matterEdit


You are false. The topic is clearly a RfC matter because there are dispute if Anez is an interim president. --Panam2014 (talk) 07:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Panam2014: What dispute? You have made a post which at best reads like a general question that would be better off at WP:RD/H, and at worst is mere chitterchat that is forbidden by WP:NOTFORUM. If it is a genuine question about improving the article, you could have phrased it better. If a dispute is involved, diffs should be provided, and all parties informed. You should also consider alternative methods of resolution before reaching for the {{rfc}} tag. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:18, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
It is not a forum. The answer is necessary for having a solution for infobox, article content and the article President of Bolivia. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:02, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

1. NOTFORUM is not a part of the items:

  • Help needed
  • Deletion processes
  • Did You Know suggestions
  • Featured Article/List/Topic discussions
  • candidates, Featured topic candidates, Featured topic removal candidates or Today's featured article/requests
  • Good Article/Topic discussions
  • Merge proposals
  • Split proposals
  • Peer review
  • Renaming categories
  • Renaming pages

2.My answer is not a forum answer. --Panam2014 (talk) 10:04, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

I never said that NOTFORUM was one of those items (and I should know, because I wrote the list at WP:RFCNOT); it includes those discussion areas that WP:RFC is often misapplied to, and is not an exhaustive list - we deliberately avoided listing every possible minor misuse. WP:NOTFORUM is on a different page, and part of the specific entry reads:
Please try to stay on the task of creating an encyclopedia. ... In addition, bear in mind that article talk pages exist solely to discuss how to improve articles; they are not for general discussion about the subject of the article, nor are they a help desk for obtaining instructions or technical assistance. ... If you wish to ask a specific question on a topic, Wikipedia has a Reference desk; questions should be asked there rather than on talk pages.
RfC is not intended as a first-step process. WP:RFCBEFORE says:
Before using the RfC process to get opinions from outside editors, it's often faster and more effective to thoroughly discuss the matter with any other parties on the related talk page. Editors are normally expected to make a reasonable attempt at working out their disputes before seeking help from others. If you are able to come to a consensus or have your questions answered through discussion with other editors, then there is no need to start an RfC.
So, your post being "Hi Is Jeanine Áñez constitutionaly and officially an interim or a full-term president?", I find this hard to take as anything other than a request for information. Are you essentially asking the question "who is the president of Bolivia?" - if so, send it to WP:RD/H. If you are starting a discussion about the content of the article, make that clear and don't jump straight to RfC until and unless the discussion becomes unresolvable. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:13, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Derivative work on sport current eventsEdit

Hi. There is a wishlist at noWP for more work that can be created via File:Current event template.svg and sports pictograms. Are you the right person to make those? The wishes are for Nordic combined, Cross-country skiing, Alpine skiing and futsal. I can see that you made the file File:Speed skating current event.svg. Thanks! --- Løken (talk) 15:03, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Løken: What is noWP and where is this wishlist? As advised when you were posting here, if you wish to draw my attention to a page, it's always best to link it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:20, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi again. Sorry for that. noWP is the norwegian Wikipedia. It is a user thats wants more icons for use in Mal:Ikon (wich is used for Infoboks sportsliga). The discussion is here. Thank you. --- Løken (talk) 23:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

October harvestEdit


thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

rendering bug for flag of trondheimEdit

Hello, I'm sorry for linking imgur uploads. I was simply not familiar with WP:WPSHOT. I have replaced the images with commons hosted counterparts. Gutten på Hemsen (talk) 23:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

liverpool Central High levelEdit

Hi RedRose

I am willing to accept that, despite the box inferring that both St James Station, and the line through that station is closed, when it is not, that it actually means the line out of Central High Level is closed, which is true as it was rerouted to Low Level.

however I am intrigued to know what the box will be changed to if they reopen the station, as the council and Merseyrail plan to do? Station open but line closed? Station reopened but line closed? I am not trying to be awkward, I just want to understand the logic behind how this region is used.

thanks! Pwilkinsonliverpool (talk) 09:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Pwilkinsonliverpool: (also notifying LicenceToCrenellate) Reopen which station? High Level or St James? They can't reopen High Level (which was a terminus on the surface), the station is long since demolished and the site has been redeveloped. Reopening St James won't have any bearing on whether the line out of High Level is closed or not, since northbound trains from St James will use the existing tunnel line to Central (Low Level). If St James does reopen, then on the routebox of High Level, the cell for St James will show "Line closed, station open"; on the routebox of Brunswick, the cell for St James will show "Line and station open"; whilst on the routebox of St James, the cells for Brunswick and for Central (Low Level) will both also show "Line and station open" but the cell for High Level will continue to show "Line and station closed". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)


Is there a reason a talk page of a redirect needs to stay active and can't be redirected to the actual talk page of the working template? --Gonnym (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Gonnym: None of the threads that had been on those talk pages bore your signature, and I could find no evidence that you moved any of those threads to another talk page (or archive); therefore, you deleted threads that were not yours to remove, contrary to WP:TPO. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
You didn't answer the question though... --Gonnym (talk) 21:23, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
If you're going to redirect a talk page, please preserve the discussions somewhere, otherwise they will appear to have evaporated. Some people may get the impression that the threads have been deliberately squashed in order to prevent any further discussion. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 121Edit

I agree with you that my <code>...</code> markup in Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 121 is "ugly", but it did preserve the appearance exactly and it did solve a misnested <code> tag, which, after your edit, is the only remaining lint error other than obsolete <font> tags. —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:04, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: Which lint error have I left behind? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry. I received an alert "Redrose64 mentioned you in an edit summary on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 121." I clicked and went to the Difference between revisions page, edited it, and saw the misnested <code> tag. I should have checked to see if I was editing the most recent version. I see you have cleaned this up elegantly. Thanks! —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:32, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Roll back bot class 322Edit

Please could you send the roll back bot onto the page for the British rail class 322 and have the bot roll the page to how it looked as of the edit made by SK2242 22:11 13th November 2020.

There has been major vandalism to the page and It could do with being rolled back to how it looked before it was vandalised.

Many thanks Maurice Oly. Maurice Oly (talk) 20:16, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I've had a go. Maurice Oly you can go back through the edit history of a page and restore it to a pre-vandalism version. I went to one later than the one you mentioned, in fact, as Narky Blert is an always-safe pair of hands. Hope this helps. DBaK (talk) 22:43, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@DBak: thank you sooo much you have fixed all the issues with the page.

Kind Regards Maurice Oly (talk) 23:59, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@Maurice Oly and DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: I don't hunt out vandalism (though I hammer it if I spot it), and it can be easy to miss. Subject specialists are the people most likely to get suspicions about the subtler wrongnesses, and be motivated to look. (Earlier this year, a WP:INCOMPETENT IP-hopper was breaking multiple links in Indian film lists. It was about the fourth time I came across them that I noticed a DABlink so peculiar that an alarm bell began to ring faintly. It took me two hours research to build a case for WP:ANI, which resulted in a WP:RANGEBLOCK. I was one of three or four DABfixers who hadn't realised for several months what they'd been up to.)
If I get reverted on the way through to hitting vandalism behind me, I applaud.
Anyone can use WP:TWINKLE to restore an older page version, reverting one or several editors in one go. If something more complicated (such as WP:ROLLBACK) is needed, it can be handy to know a friendly admin. If there's persistent abuse, a trip to WP:RFPP or ANI may be justified. I would be happy to advise on how to present a case, should it be needed. Narky Blert (talk) 04:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you both @Maurice Oly and Narky Blert: – a pleasure doing business with you! Cheers DBaK (talk) 00:40, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks {@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: and @Narky Blert: for all your help pleasure doing business with both of you. Maurice Oly (talk) 01:09, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Template parameter use questionEdit

Hi RedRose64, we met at the WP Banner discussion page. Could I pick your brains about something? Is there a way to track whether parameters are used on templates apart from creating a particular tracking category? I am looking at Template:WikiProject China and strongly suspect there are a couple of parameters that are likely to be unused. --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:15, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

A tracking category is normal, but I have seen another method - a hidden link to a non-existent page. It's very rarely used, and I can't find a current example. It's probably best to stick with the commonly-used techniques. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:17, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll stick with the conventional route. --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:36, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thank you for educating me about references within an RfC statement (diff). I had no idea I was messing things up! Now I know. Much appreciated - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/his/him] 20:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)