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The link you asked forEdit

Sorry I'm bad at using wikipedia and messed up adding the cite, I asked Northern the other day about Bolton's Platform 2 and they replied to me


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The MonkEdit

I was sitting with a high steward, discussing Anglo-Saxon monks. The name we couldn't remember was Nennius. All the best: Rich Farmbrough04:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC).


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Template talk:WikiProject BiographyEdit

Hi Redrose64, quick message. On Template talk:WikiProject Biography, I removed the category not because I had been lazy and just not fixed the issue, I just hadn't realised that it might have been there because someone had posted a link to it in the talk. I had assumed it was just a one-time problem with the actual template itself at the top of the talk page, and so I could fix that by removing the category. I used hot cat, so didn't actually see what I had deleted. I should have checked changes before pressing to save my edit. I apologise, I just wanted to clear any misunderstanding. Thanks, SamWilson989 (talk)

Sailing from Holyhead?Edit

Where can you sail to by Stena Line? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IkbenFrank (talkcontribs) 20:08, 27 April 2015

Season's GreetingsEdit

Wishing you a Charlie Brown
Charlie Russell Christmas! 🎄
Best wishes for your Christmas
Is all you get from me
'Cause I ain't no Santa Claus
Don't own no Christmas tree.
But if wishes was health and money
I'd fill your buck-skin poke
Your doctor would go hungry
An' you never would be broke.

—C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1914.

VarunFEB2003 and template signatures.Edit

Nuneaton Bridge railway station......possible inclusion on Wikipedia existing line templates.Edit

There is a very short Wikipedia article on this station, to which you were the last person who made an edit upon, so I send my query to you. The station is shown as being in working timetables, being opened on 1 March 1866 and closed on 1 October 1887. Its situation is said to be between the two stations of Nuneaton Abbey Street and Hinckley.

Do you think it should be included as an entry on the Wikipedia Template : Birmingham to Peterborough Line or any other Wikipedia line templates where Nuneaton Abbey Street and Hinckley are shown?

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 14:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry Xenophon Philosopher: but I cannot pay any attention to this until Tony May informs me what is important and what isn't. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Do I find myself caught between an ongoing dispute between Tony May and your good self? I was unaware of any such dispute until I read your response above. I have always been grateful to you for the kind manner in which your have responded to my enquiries in past years, so this is why I made the original response to you. Therefore, can you act as an intermediary on my behalf and ask a fellow member if they can assist in my enquiry.

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 04:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Nuneaton Bridge?
Nuneaton Abbey Street
Nuneaton North Chord
@Xenophon Philosopher: Where exactly is Nuneaton Bridge situated? There's a whole lot going on between Nuneaton Abbey Street and HinckleyUseddenim (talk) 05:05, 8 March 2019 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

If you look at this very short Wikipedia article on Nuneaton Bridge station, all it gives information about location is the box at the foot stating it lies between the two stations that I have stated above, so it will either be before or after the currently open Nuneaton station. When people write a new Wikipedia article on a station, it would help if information regarding its location could be incorporated. So all I have to go on is this and I do not know the exact location, as this very question was asked of me by someone else who also noted the Wikipedia article on Nuneaton Bridge station. Perhaps you may know someone on Wikipedia well versed in the knowledge of the railway area of Nuneaton who could provide it. However, thank you for responding so quickly.

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 08:20, 8 March 2019 (UTC)


Is there an accessibility issue in using № that requires the use of No.? Mjroots (talk) 06:25, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mjroots: It's MOS:NUMERO, but Tony May won't like me telling you that because they would prefer me to throw the MOS out of the window. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
Nothing to do with that editor (you do seem to be a bit preoccupied here, maybe take a step back?). I was wondering whether or not to raise this edit with the editor in question, but having checked the MOS I'm happy that it was fine. Mjroots (talk) 12:42, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Special Barnstar
For your excellent work at WP:ANRFC and the patience you exhibit when dealing with other editors there. It is most appreciated!! –MJLTalk 13:35, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
  Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:18, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Extending RfC and div tagsEdit

Re your edit here... Thank you for letting me know about that (other) Legobot bug. I was not aware that including div tags in the opening statement would mess up Legobot's handling of entries in the RfC topic discussion pages. I carefully reviewed WP:RFC and Template:Rfc/doc prior to making my edit, but there were no warnings there about using div tags. (Note: I just edited each of those pages to add such a warning.) My intention is to extend the discussion another thirty days per Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Length, which says to add a new timestamp between the rfc tag and the original signature. There is no guideline provided as to how to do that -- I thought that placing a short comment about the extension, right justified immediately after the the template message would be appropriate. Sparkie82 (tc) 16:03, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sparkie82: It doesn't matter where it is ultimately displayed - whatever occurs in the Wikisource after the {{rfc}} tag is copied to the RfC listings, up to and including the next timestamp. This means that if you have an opening HTML tag in that interval, but the matching closing HTML tag is after the timestamp, only one of the pair will be copied to the RfC listings. It doesn't matter if it is div, small or anything else - imbalanced HTML is an error. So if there is an opening <div> between the {{rfc}} and the timestamp, there must also be a closing </div> between that <div> and the timestamp in order to balance it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:40, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Dabs on Template:Abellio Greater Anglia RDTEdit

Could you help with some dabs on Template:Abellio Greater Anglia RDT? I think Bampton should be Brampton railway station (Suffolk) but I'm unsure about how to handle Newmarket railway station. Alresford railway station, Hythe railway station and Hockley railway station are also dabs. Any help appreciated (so I don't break the templates).— Rod talk 09:02, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

@Rodw: It's been converted to {{routemap}} by Useddenim (talk · contribs), which means that it is no longer maintainable by me (see this recent TfD); if I touch it, I'll probably break it too. If Useddenim has introduced incorrect links, we have two options: (i) revert their last edit, putting it back to the easily-maintained {{BS-map}} form; or (ii) tell Useddenim that they are responsible for fixing it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:55, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
I've added a note on the talk page of User:Useddenim.— Rod talk 10:04, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
As I said before, "I didn't edit any of the links, just the overall layout". In fact, let's cast aspersions where they're due: Redrose64 made the last edit prior to mine, so he could just as (in)accurately be accused of introducing the incorrect links; although checking the past revisions shows that they have been there since Hpsuperfan created the diagram. Which brings me to the next point: the diagram was originally in {{Routemap}} format, but Nathan A RF changed it to {{BS-map}}—parenthetically, the only example of this that I've ever come across—I restored it.
@Redrose64: I don't know why you are so adamantly opposed to {{Routemap}}, but I'm quite willing to try and teach you the nuances of editing a diagram with it if you can tell me what your specific problems are. Useddenim (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

class 111Edit


Should have checked my Ian Allan "combine" one car appears to be from a 108 and one from a 111 according to the number series, unfortunately (for me) the 108 is the leading vehicle. Cheers Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:22, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Longueau-Boulogne railwayEdit

The {{Longueau-Boulogne RDT}} isn't displaying correctly on the Longueau-Boulogne railway article. The top continuation arrow is in the wrong column, but it's correct on the diagram. On the article, with the diagram displayed, there appears to be a stray - . Can't work out what is wrong, would you take a look please? Mjroots (talk) 10:11, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Can't help you there, it's been converted to {{routemap}} by guess who. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
I know, but the error has gone. Mjroots (talk) 05:30, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
FWIW, the ‘error’ was introduced on 19 February when Pppery made the TfD tag show up in transcluding pages of {{BS-table}}. Useddenim (talk) 19:37, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I wonder what the policy is...Edit

On self-promoting your own images in Wikipedia, especially if better images are available? Tony May (talk) 00:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Using your own images is not a crime, otherwise WP:IUP#User-created images wouldn't encourage it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

ABC Rail GuideEdit

I have been given three copies, from 1982, 83 and 84. Would you like them? It's you or the recycling bin. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:07, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. Couldn't make London two days ago - I got added to the rota quite late. I'll try to let you know when I can next make London. Unless you're coming to Oxford this Sunday. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately not but I will hold the books for you. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
  Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
There is a DYK in the ABC guide based on the Christie book if I can get enough together. Do you have any sources? Philafrenzy (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Which Christie book? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) I'm guessing The A.B.C. Murders. The last sentence of the first paragraph in the plot section mentions the ABC Rail Guide. If I'm wrong my apologies sending you down the wrong track :-) MarnetteD|Talk 12:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) The A.B.C. Murders ("I bet the chap drinks White Horse Whiskey") I think it'll be difficult to avoid WP:SYNTH; I had an—admittedly cursory—look for sourcing, and it's distinctly difficult to identify sources which discuss the guide itself in the context of the novel, rather than merely the novel itself. IMHO, of course. ——SerialNumber54129 12:03, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Oh Agatha Christie. I thought that you were referring to an obscure railway book about timetabling written by some man called Christie. Much like Raymond Butt. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:33, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) M. A new adaptation, The ABC Murders (TV series), was broadcast here over three consecutive nights beginning on 26 December 2018 on the BBC. Any chance you get to see it? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:01, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Not yet Gareth but I will be looking for it. Thanks for the heads up. MarnetteD|Talk 17:09, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

User Tony MayEdit

He's constantly tampering with articles and deliberately changing photographs to try and bring me down. He needs sorting out ASAP, he's just pulled this trick on a number of pages for carnforth based engines including the one for Galatea. LMS_Jubilee_Class_5699_Galatea — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moylesy98 (talkcontribs) 21:06, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


Yes sorry about the blanking. I appreciate my error just forgot how to move the page. Hope it can be fixed overall. Does the logo need to be added on the city line page?Babydoll9799 (talk) 00:08, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Babydoll9799: Let's worry about the logo later. Please stop moving the article and blanking out redirects, whilst I try to sort this mess. Same goes for ADTelo (talk · contribs) --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
I will. The only difference for me is I moved it to City line (Merseyrail) lower case L like the other two lines, but links elsewhere are all City Line (Merseyrail) with capital L. Depends how it should be - the Northern and Wirral lines are lower case l. I will leave this now out of my depth I guess. Hopefully can be fixedBabydoll9799 (talk) 00:17, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Noted. Sorry about the mess! ADTelo (talk) 00:24, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
@Babydoll9799, ADTelo, and GB fan: I've moved the article (and its talk page) back to City Line (Merseyrail), capital L, which is where it was until 13 March 2019. I have also protected the page against further undiscussed moves. If it is felt that the page name is incorrect, please discuss in accordance with WP:RM and the other procedures described there and at WP:BEFOREMOVING.
The various redirects (eight in all) that got created by this series of moves have been un-blanked where they were blanked, and in six cases pointed directly at the article City Line (Merseyrail) or talk page Talk:City Line (Merseyrail) as appropriate. Each of those six has incoming links, so should not be deleted. In two cases - Wikipedia:City Line (Merseyrail) and Wikipedia talk:City Line (Merseyrail) - there were no incoming links, so it was safe to delete those. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 01:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Great, thanks for sorting all this out - I'll take it as a learning experience not to move articles without discussing it and reaching consensus first, then making sure I know what I'm doing. 🔬🚆 | Telo | Talk to me! 01:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
I've deleted three more redirects which had no inward links (City line (Merseyrail), Talk:City line (Merseyrail) and Talk:City Line (Merseytravel)); so three remain: City Line (Merseyside), City Line (Merseytravel) and Talk:City Line (Merseyside) and these do have inward links. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:20, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

No need for comma to be inside the linkEdit

Well, I suppose so. There is also no harm in setting the comma inside the link. I was trained many, many years ago to set the following punctuation mark in the same style as the preceding word. Do you have some special reason to change it? ''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 04:01, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@PaulinSaudi: You refer to this edit where you had used what I believe is known as "typesetters' punctuation". We don't do that in Wikipedia (how often have you seen other links constructed in that manner?), instead we use "logical punctuation". The best descriptions mainly concern quotation marks (see for example Quotation marks in English#Order of punctuation, MOS:TQ and Wikipedia:Logical quotation on Wikipedia), but they really cover all forms of punctuation. Just as we don't introduce commas into quotations where the actual material being quoted has no comma, we shouldn't introduce commas into links where the actual page being linked has no comma. This is akin to MOS:PIPEDLINK, the bullet beginning "Intuitiveness. Keep piped links as intuitive as possible." (notice how I put the full stop inside the quotes there, because it's a whole sentence and is also part of the material being quoted) Alternatively, think of it like this: is the comma a part of the actual name of the article that you are linking to? If so, include it in the link; if not, don't. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:15, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Noted. ''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 14:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Raymond ButtEdit

 On 16 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Raymond Butt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Raymond Butt compiled a directory of "every station, halt, platform and stopping place on the British railway passenger network"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Raymond Butt. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Raymond Butt), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

And I hardly did a thing to it. Yay! --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
You were a guiding presence in the background RedRose. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Problem with meEdit

Hi RedRose64

I couldn't help but notice you seem to keep challenging me on the former South Staffordshire Line from Walsall to Lichfield City and other pages. I provided evidence but you keep refusing to except it. I'm not happy with some of the replies you gave me. I had no problems with you but you do with me.

Sorry you feel that way

JoshIsTheFalco JoshuaIsTheFalco (talk) 18:32, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

@JoshuaIsTheFalco: Please provide diffs of the edits concerned. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:49, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Gloucester branch linesEdit

There's some good railway porn in the maps here that should excite you. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:16, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Customizing time displayEdit

I believe you once helped me—I think at WP:VPT back in 2016—with something related to time formatting and it involved doing something in my vector.js or something somewhere in one of my settings pages. Currently, signatures are displaying like this: Today, 9:32 am (UTC−7), March 9, 2019, 2:21 pm (UTC−8). In terms of what's actually displayed once an edit is saved, is it possible to just have Today, 9:32 AM, March 9, 2019, 2:21 PM? (Capital AM or PM and no UTC -X, as I know what time zone the times are in.) The current display is already a little bit customized from you helping me before and can probably just be customized further. Thanks in advance. Amaury (talk | contribs) 22:13, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

@Amaury: Your User:Amaury/vector.js certainly seems to be doing something with times, almost certainly related to the gadget "Change UTC-based times and dates, such as those used in signatures, to be relative to local time (documentation)". I don't recall discussing this, and I can't find anything relevant in the VPT archives, unless it was either Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 136#Wikipedia Server Clock or Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 152#Very minor issue with signature date and time stamps. But at VPR there's Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 134#Global date and time format in preferences and some other suggestions which might be the thread concerned. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:31, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
That last link is the one, but I remember now. You did give me some code, but it was for my common.css, as well as my common.js, in regard to styling blocked users' names with strike-throughs. I don't remember where the discussion was, but you provided me with CSS to keep the strike-through while hovering over blocked users' names. I've since had those pages deleted since it was turned into an option. And yes, that code in my vector.js is doing something. Remember that my signatures are being displayed like this, per what I stated above: March 9, 2019, 2:21 pm (UTC−8). Without that code in there, they display like so: 2:21 pm, 9 March 2019, Saturday (12 days ago) (UTC−8). Is there anything I can add to that code so signatures display as March 9, 2019, 2:21 PM? Capital AM/PM and no (UTC-X). Amaury (talk | contribs) 02:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Comments in Local Time doesn't have anything about suppressing the time zone; you could ask at Wikipedia talk:Comments in Local Time. It might not be capable, so an amendment to the code may be necessary. I'm not a JavaScript expert, and last year (as with all other regular admins) they took away my right to edit .js and .css pages. I can't even view the deleted edits of User:Amaury/common.css or User:Amaury/common.js to see if I did anything there in the past; if you need these pages back, you can post at WP:IANB. As far as deciding what amendments may be necessary, if the gadget's talk page isn't fruitful, you may get better luck posting at WP:VPT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

RFC questions revertEdit

FYI the reason I had changed my original post was that another editor (Quon) edited my original questions beyond what they were. I am going to return them to the original state. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 14:45, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@ThatMontrealIP: Please do not revert me, the RfC needs a valid opening statement. Have a look at the effect on the RfC listing pages of your previous change to the RfC. See WP:RFCBRIEF: Legobot will copy your statement (from the end of the {{rfc}} tag through the first timestamp) to the list of active RfCs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:51, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
OK. I was going to change it back to my original RFC, but I will leave it. The problem was that an overzealous editor went in and edited my original entry, so it was no longer my comment (even though it had my signature).ThatMontrealIP (talk) 15:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Croydon Airport robberyEdit

Hi....if you have chance to look at do I calculate today's equivalent in money? ie £21 thousand in 1935 is what in 2019? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

You've used
£21 thousand (equal to £1,431,900 in 2018)
which is a good start. But it's not an exact conversion, so the word "equal" is inappropriate, "equivalent" would be better:
£21 thousand (equivalent to £1,431,900 in 2018)
Also, it's capital wealth so you have used the wrong scale, see {{inflation}} (first box, including the phrase "For inflating capital expenses, government expenses, or the personal wealth and expenditure of the rich") and compare this:
£21 thousand (equivalent to £1,247,760 in 2016)
You don't need the {{formatnum:...}} if you use the |fmt=c parameter:
£21 thousand (equivalent to £1,247,760 in 2016)
Since the left hand side uses the word "thousand" instead of the figures 000, the right hand side should do the same
£21 thousand (equivalent to £1,248 thousand in 2016)
which is also rounded sensibly. What else is lacking here? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:08, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks...I don't know what else is lacking. What is the difference between burglary and robbery? Category:Robberies in the United Kingdom or Category:Burglaries in the United Kingdom? Whispyhistory (talk) 13:45, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
(Apologies for butting in.) You have to enter a building to burgle; just taking stuff is robbing. [1] vs [2] Bazza (talk) 14:27, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks...what is the difference between Croydon Airport robbery and Hatton Garden safe deposit burglary? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:52, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
The exact term that is used is rather down to the common law of England (a person's action that can be tried in court as a crime, not because a monarch or parliament has passed a law against it, but because everybody has always agreed that it's a crime), The common law terms for various offences are ancient in origin; some (like rob) come from old German, some (like burglar) from old French, some Latin, some ancient Briton (a language whose modern descendants include Welsh). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks again....should there be both categories for burglary and robbery? If so, which does croydon come under? Whispyhistory (talk) 02:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Whatever the references in the article call it. If both, then both. And thanks to Redrose64 for a nice explanation. Bazza (talk) 10:02, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you as always and thank you Bazza 7. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Table color schemesEdit

Hello, Redrose64! I'm just letting you know that I responded to your points at Talk:Motion_picture_content_rating_system#RfC: Should we install a color scheme with 9 colors in the comparison table?. If you're still interested in helping out, please let me know and we can organize something.Zenkaino lovelive (talk) 04:43, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I saw it. I also saw several comments like "Please write and explain specifically like me." The more that you ask me to respond, the less likely I am to do so. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)


Hi. About Special:Diff/890084385 - I marked it as "done" because the 1 remaining sub-proposal is separate, and isn't anywhere near ready for closure, so I didn't think it needed to stay listed. Would it be okay to set done=yes and replace "partially done" with {{done|partially done}}? --DannyS712 (talk) 23:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

As I have mentioned before, archiving is not controlled by |done=yes but by template. Near the top of the page you will find this line:
|archivenow=<!-- <nowiki>{{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveNow}},{{resolved,{{Resolved,{{done,{{Done,{{DONE,{{already done,{{Already done,{{not done,{{Not done,{{close,{{Close,{{nd,{{xXxX</nowiki> -->
It's a case-sensitive list of templates that will trigger archiving. Use any of them, except xXxX which is a dummy to terminate the list. So {{done|partially done}} will trigger archiving. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:46, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: oh, I'm sorry. I keep forgetting that. Are you okay with me marking it as done? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:49, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
If you use one of the templates that will trigger archiving, you should mark the {{initiated}} as |done=yes in the same edit. If none of those templates is used, leave off the |done=yes. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant: are you okay with me changing partially done to done, and setting done=yes? I.e. having the section be "done"? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:35, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
If there is no further action to be taken by WP:AN/RFC regulars, then go ahead. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64:   Done, thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 23:53, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

User contributionsEdit

Hi, RR - I was wondering if there is/could be a search function implemented in user contributions to allow keyword searches so we can more easily locate a specific edit we made weeks or years ago? For example, I remember working on Abinta Kabir Foundation which is now deleted but I don't remember when I worked on it and only vaguely recall tagging it for deletion. In article edit history, we can isolate a specific user's edits but not if the page is deleted, and that's where a keyword search in our user contribs would come in handy, or perhaps there's already a way available to us now and I'm not aware of it? The date range feature only works if you remember the dates. Atsme Talk 📧 11:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Searching the "all revisions" database—which I think is what you're suggesting—would fry the servers, and the WMF would almost certainly veto allowing it on the live wiki; this is why the edit-counter tool, which is performing a much simpler query, is disabled for editors with large numbers of edits. (Try searching even a single article-history for the addition of a keyword and see how long it takes.) The only practical way to make such a thing viable would be to persuade someone to host an off-wiki backup of the all-pages-all-revisions database and use that for searching, but since the full database is now up to (I think) 25TB, I doubt anyone would want to host it. ‑ Iridescent 12:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi, Iridescent - I don't know if my request would key-up an "all revisions" database. I would think the search would be limited to only my edits in the existing User (Atsme) contribution database the same way a search to isolate a particular user's contributions in an article's edit history or talk page history would be done. What I'm querying would be more like opening your own "User contributions" (either in the left or top margin menu bar) and when that page appears, there would be a search bar to find keywords in your logged contributions like there is now for date ranges. I think wmflabs searches an "all revisions" database via editor interaction tools but what I'm asking for is just a bit more specific than isolating a date range in User contributions view. We keep that date option, but add the keyword option as well so when we can't remember "when" we can still search by keyword (say a word we remember in the edit summary, or article title). Atsme Talk 📧 12:57, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
The tool that I use to locate old edits by their edit summary is found in the box at the bottom of each user's contribs page, titled "Edit summary search". It doesn't scan deleted contribs though. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

"please don't mess with my sig"Edit

I didn't. Substitution of HTML and Unicode character entity codes with the actual Unicode characters they encode is something that the beta edit conflict resolver does automatically, a bit like AWB's General Fixes.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  21:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) That seems to me a very dubious behaviour for it to do. Interfering with other people's comments or sigs is not something an automated tool should be doing, because how does it know the intention behind it. The unicode escape might have been deliberately intended, to demonstrate something. I think the edit conflict resolver is probably a bad idea generally, as a software engineer I'm well aware of the difficulty of merging branched files and it is something with the potential to go wrong if not verified carefully by a human. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 22:09, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It shouldn't do that, but apparently it did, with your name all over it. I use the hex entity for a good reason: not all browsers are capable of displaying that character, just as not all browsers can display the "😼" character in your sig; and of those that can display 🌹 as something other than a box, the appearance differs between Chrome, Firefox and IE. Users who see the box can then go to a website like Uniview 12, enter that hex value (1f339) into the "Find" box and click the down-arrow to the right of that in order to perform a search. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:13, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
The edit conflict resolver shouldn't be doing that, if that's truly the root cause, and should get a phab ticket accordingly. (I am a bit skeptical the resolver is the system at fault here--the issue reminds me of WP:WIKEDNBSP.) --Izno (talk) 00:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
This clearly isn't intended, given that it happens even when doing so clearly changes the results (My signature, {{3x|p}}ery (talk) becomes pppery (talk), see Special:Diff/882571877) {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 01:52, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I have reported this as a bug, based on very limited information, at T220067. Feel free to amend and correct my report. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

2 socksEdit

Hi R. If you take a look at the edit history you'll see that Dopenguins was using both an IP and Netto Tax. So in reverting one sock I messed up letting the other get away with things. My apologies. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Two different IPs, to be precise. Both of the IPs and NettoTax are blocked. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
It was late here when I was dealing with them. I did report one of the IPs at the SPI. A busy little bee that one. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 18:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Thessaloniki AirportEdit

Hello, you recently removed the RfC from the Thessaloniki Airport discussion with the reasoning that it doesn't need to be both. I understand that it does not need to be both, but given that that article has been moved back and forth numerous times, and given also that the inclusion of the name "Makedonia" or "Macedonia" in the title is indicative of POV-pushing for the sake of including the name in the article title (even though it accounts for 7% of total google searches), the circumstances necessitate the involvement of more editors (and specifically editors not involved with the topic and who are involved in WP projects relating to style and guidelines). That is the reason the RfC was opened, and I would like to ask that you reinstate it. --Michail (blah) 20:05, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

@Philly boy92: The presence of both {{rfc}} and {{requested move/dated}} was interfering with the processes of both Legobot (talk · contribs) and RMCD bot (talk · contribs), with undesirable effects at several pages including Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Wikipedia style and naming and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions. Another reason is that an RM is by its very nature a request for comment, albeit one with narrow boundaries. There is no need to use both processes, this has been discussed several times, most recently at WT:RFC. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Type F Interlock Coupler Is NOT an "InterLock" CouplerEdit

Type F Interlock Coupler Is NOT the same as a Type H TightLock Coupler; they are different. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NBTwain (talkcontribs) 15:39, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@NBTwain: When did I say this? Please provide WP:DIFFs if you wish to question an edit. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:49, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
And remember that with a buckeye coupling, weight has nothing to do with it. Mind you, Scharfenburg makes one lazy, doesn't it? ——SerialNumber54129 15:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: Sorry, what is this in relation to? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:02, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Your OP has invested much/some of their time on the Scharfenberg article. "Don't know they're born!" springs to mind ;) ——SerialNumber54129 16:04, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
You mean these edits? They made a mess of the image captions, and added forced image sizes that were unnecessary. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:24, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Excatly. They should, metaphorically, begin with the buckeye before moving onto the scharfenberg... :) ——SerialNumber54129 16:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)


Hi! I would like a geonotice for an event I'm running - m:Meetup/London/142 - and Deryck Chan suggested that I ask your help to do a geonotice for it for London and the South East. Would that be possible? Thanks. --Jwslubbock (talk) 11:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jwslubbock: It should already be there, I set it up several days ago. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Thanks! Can I ask you for another geonotice, please? This one is for next week, for a SkillShare at the Wikimedia UK office. The meta page is here - m:Meetup/London_Skillshare/2. I guess it's for anyone from London and the South East. Thanks a lot for your help. --Jwslubbock (talk) 13:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
@Jwslubbock: There's a problem with that: geolocation in the UK is notoriously unreliable, see User:Redrose64#Where am I? At present, I geolocate to 51°29′47″N 0°07′21″W / 51.49640°N 0.12240°W / 51.49640; -0.12240 which is a point in the middle of the Thames, west of Lambeth Palace. I don't live on a boat. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:04, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Anamyd and British Rail Class 158 and British Rail Class 360Edit

user:Anamyd is threatening to try to WP:EDITWAR WP:OFFTOPIC information into British Rail Class 158 and British Rail Class 360 which there is no talk page concensus for. Tony May (talk) 15:41, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

@Tony May: If they are edit warring, see WP:EW; and if WP:3RR is violated, file a case at WP:ANEW. Otherwise, WP:BRD applies. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for the revert on IPv6--I'd thought the RFCs were IETF RFC's. I was unaware of Wikipedia RFC's!! Sorry about that. --Daviddwd (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

@Daviddwd: Some offsite RfCs may be linked using square brackets, such as [[rfc:1738]]rfc:1738. A WP:PREVIEW always helps. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:29, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Got it. I didn't know that. I'm a big template and VisualEditor guy; from now on I'll be using the {{IETF RFC}} template. --Daviddwd (talk) 17:31, 16 April 2019 (UTC)


Why should I never use Wikipedia as a ref source? C2A (Homebase | Telephone | Site changes) 15:51, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) C2A The main reason is that WikiP is WP:USERGENERATED. MarnetteD|Talk 16:07, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
See also WP:CIRCULAR. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Should all instances of 'tbd' in this article be changed to 'TBD'?Edit

Hi, in the article List of aircraft carriers in service, the abbreviation 'tbd' is always used with all lowercase letters, instead of 'TBD' in all caps. They can be seen in the Carriers ordered and Other planned carriers sections. I propose changing them all to 'TBD' as this form is much more commonly used and is widely considered the correct format. JACKINTHEBOXTALK 13:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

@JackintheBox: Why are you canvassing me and several other people? I already saw your post at WT:Manual of Style/Abbreviations because that page is on my watchlist. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Canvassing was not my intention. I was trying to gain consensus to make that change, with users who are knowledgeable in MOS:Abbreviations and MOS:Capital letters. But looks like it's resolved now, and the change has been made. JACKINTHEBOXTALK 00:46, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


I am sorry I didn't use the proper code. Thanks for your intervention.[3] Cinadon36 (talk) 09:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


Please consider a longer block for C2A, they continue to have a competency issue in reverting edits: [4] Cards84664 (talk) 19:51, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@Cards84664: I was already on the case when you posted here, I've spent over an hour going through recent events on several pages; during this time I decided that there was sufficient grounds for a further, longer, block, which I set at 20:01 with a 48-hour duration. I did not serve the accompanying notice for over half an hour afterward because I was still reading up on events, and wording an appropriate preliminary to the formal {{subst:uw-ewblock}} notice.
To my TPSs - the relevant block log. Comments are welcome. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
@Cards84664: Why did you request for me to get blocked? This time please do not remove this question. C2A (About | Call | Edits) 05:49, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Should C2A (talk · contribs) be reblocked? Three minutes after he resumed editing he once again made changes to the very same phrase in London Underground rolling stock numbering and classification, despite promising that Instead of edit warring on the article, I will discuss the issue … when I am unblocked. Useddenim (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
It was a totally different change that I made on the article. I was just cleaning the phrase up. You should have read the edit summary, Useddenim. C2A (About | Call | Edits) 14:49, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
@C2A: In view of your recent edits to that article, you should consider all edits to be controversial, requiring prior discussion. WP:BOLD can only be taken so far. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:05, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Now why are you making restrictions, saying I now have to discuss any further changes I make on Wikipedia? That is very unfair. C2A (About | Call | Edits) 07:16, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
@C2A: Did you work through the reading list provided by Useddenim (talk · contribs)? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:26, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


Regarding the question "why do people use underscores when spaces work perfectly well *and* make the page more readable?" you posed in this edit, it's almost certainly because people are copying and pasting the URL. This is often simpler than copying the page title and section name separately, especially for those people who only have a single clipboard. Thryduulf (talk) 13:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia article on the Newport, Abergavenny and Hereford Railway.Edit

Are you aware of any reasons why this particular Wikipedia article cannot be accessed, as when I try to do so, all I see is a listing of tabular computer jargon.

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

This change broke it.
I've fixed it now, assuming your station ordering change was itself correct.
These routemaps are very fiddly to edit. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:33, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, removing one closing brace causes all sorts of trouble. When you copy rows from one place to another you must make sure that you take the whole row. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Tracking down the transclusionsEdit

Hello R. I hope you are well. When you have a moment would you please take a look at the three items in Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. The Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no portals and the User:CorbieVreccan/Admin Toolbox are the kind that usually disappear after a transcluded pages protection expires but they have been in the category for over two weeks now and I haven't been able to track down why. The Wikipedia talk:Tutorial just showed up today but I am not sure which of Moxy's edits caused this to be added to the category. Have a pleasant weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 15:50, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no portals uses some unusual markup which is very difficult to understand - and that's before I've even got as far as its Lua code. This one must therefore be fixed by the only person who has ever edited the page, which is Pppery (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:45, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
@MarnetteD: Done it. It's hacky, but it works. The only one left is User:CorbieVreccan/Admin Toolbox. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:16, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
The problem edit by Moxy (talk · contribs) was this one, which also broke the section edit links. This points to User:Sunmist/sandbox/Tutorial tabs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
  All clear now --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:02, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts R! In our years of dealing with the cat these may be the trickiest ones yet. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 18:40, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


Hi, and haven't thanked you lately for your help, so here's a thanks in advance! Question... Cluebot III needs a {{done}} in addition to a |done=yes (at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure)? Paine Ellsworth, ed.  put'r there  21:45, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: (talk page stalker) the |done=yes only changes the appearance - the actually archiving is controlled independently by the {{done}} template, or any of the other templates listed in the html comment at [5]. See #ANRFC above for more --DannyS712 (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
To DannyS712: cool! and thank you very much! Paine Ellsworth, ed.  put'r there  07:35, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circularEdit

Administrators must secure their accounts

The Arbitration Committee may require a new RfA if your account is compromised.

View additional information

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:53, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)Edit

ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Tom Holland 'Books' List EditEdit

I'm sorry, but there were already 17 other books on that list of books before you added the Aethelflaed title to it, all done in the same format, with title first and no author (since it's exclusively a list of books written by Tom Holland on Tom Holland's entry page, it seems very unnecessary to have the name 'Tom Holland' in front of each book). I cannot see what is special about this one book that it needs to be done in a different format from all the other books on the exact same list, causing it to not just stick out, but making it so the reader misses that title entirely when scanning down the list.

It seems prudent that when adding something to an existing list, an editor should use the format that has been used previously by all other editors over the years so that the entire list remains cohesive. Is there some way you could put that book in the same format as the other 17 books on the same list? Thank you. Lilipo25 (talk) 00:25, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

(For my TPSs, this concerns Tom Holland (author)#Non-fiction) @Lilipo25: There are only nine works listed that use {{cite book}}, not 17. Anyway, the {{cite book}} template emits COinS metadata, for which the details of the author are required (somebody like Pigsonthewing (talk · contribs) or Andy Dingley (talk · contribs) can probably explain this better than me). The other books in the list should really have author information added too; and all except the first one may also have |authormask= added. See Hamilton Ellis, Roger Kidner or John Marshall for how this would look with |authormask=2 - but |authormask=1 would be perfectly valid. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:28, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
  • See [6] (I'm not doing the rest, I'm not reverting this, do whatever you like with the article).
The metadata in the list works better is the full authoring information is embedded, then we just hide it a little with authormask.
This is also useful if it'a a series of collaborations with varying other authors, editors etc. See David Fletcher. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:50, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia article on the Wealden Line.Edit

I tried to log onto this article but all that was revealed was tabulated computer jargon. Have you any idea what might have caused this to occur?

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 11:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@Xenophon Philosopher: I take it you mean Wealden Line - it's always best to link the page that exhibits the problem. Steamybrian2 (talk · contribs) broke it with this edit and then spent the next four edits trying to fix it, but instead making it worse each time. They then gave up; but really they should have reverted back to the version that existed before they started. That's what I have now done. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:57, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

My apologies- A tried to make a simple change but it did not work.Steamybrian2 (talk) 14:15, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Liverpool PullmanEdit

I see from your contributions to British Rail Classes 251 and 261 that you have some knowlege of the Liverpool Pullman. The Liverpool Pullman article is a mess. Perhaps you could help sort it out. See Talk:Liverpool_Pullman I have also flagged this with the article's creator, who might also have more accurate information. Thanks. 2A00:23C6:3B89:8A00:C9E3:AC95:C60F:358F (talk) 19:36, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Croydon Aerodrome robberyEdit

 On 9 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Croydon Aerodrome robbery, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that only one of the gang that carried out the Croydon Aerodrome gold bullion robbery in 1935 was convicted, and the gold was never found? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Croydon Aerodrome robbery. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Croydon Aerodrome robbery), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Emily Skinner (actress, born 1970)Edit

Hi Redrose, excuse me for interrupting, but I could see you were online. Could you do me a favor? I had requested Emily Skinner (actress, born 1970) be CSD'd because it was a cut and paste move from Emily Skinner, rather than actually moving the article. Another admin did the CSD, but before I could move the article, another editor recreated the redirect, again blocking the move. I moved the page into draft, thinking I could then move Emily Skinner, but it keeps telling me the article exists. Can you help me clean up my mess? Onel5969 TT me 16:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Let's see. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:16, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Which one needs moving, to where? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:20, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi. Emily Skinner should be moved to Emily Skinner (actress, born 1970), then the redirect should be turned into a dab for Emily Skinner (actress, born 1970) and Emily Skinner (actress, born 2002). Then the draft should also be deleted. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 16:25, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Apart from deleting the page currently in draft space, I don't see what is preventing you from doing this move. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:16, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I agree, but when I attempt to make the move, I am prevented from doing so by the same message you get when there is a legitimate page exists. Believe me I tried several times before bothering you. And I just tried again, in case some time needed to pass, and still no dice. I don't get it. Onel5969 TT me 17:21, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. Onel5969 TT me 18:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Is it OK now? I fixed up a bunch of incoming links. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:08, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Looks good. Any more dabs created I'll get on tonight or tomorrow's dab report. Thanks again for all your help.Onel5969 TT me 22:04, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Great Western Main LineEdit

The {{Great Western Main Line diagram}} needs redrawing to include Didcot Railway Centre. Mjroots (talk) 20:30, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@Mjroots: We could borrow from Template:Railways around Didcot RDT but that might make it overwide. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  Done. Useddenim (talk) 22:09, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Is this RfC correctly formatted?Edit

Talk:William_Barr#RfC:_Expand_lede_beyond_one_short_paragraph ? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 22:54, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Snooganssnoogans: Not quite. For a long RfC like that, you need two signatures: one at the end of the opening statement (as you did) plus one at the very bottom in the normal manner, which I have added. The extra one (at the end of the opening statement) is used by Legobot for several purposes, such as how much should be copied to the RfC listing page, which in this case is Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Politics, government, and law. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:56, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for correcting my mess. You are an awesome human being. Usedtobecool (talk) 18:34, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:49, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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