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Proxy sockpuppetting on the Daryl Morey pageEdit

Hi Bagumba I am the user who worked with you on Daryl Morey page when his tweets on Hong Kong blew up. Can you take a look at the contributions by this IP user with the Daryl Morey contributions by this now blocked proxy user? Lots of strong signs that they are the same person/people (the way they write, the sources they use, etc), i would say block the 121 user but but of course it's your call as you are the admin. I would also ask if you could upgrade the level of protection on that page given the proxy editing on the page (just as I had expected which i made clear to you on the morey talk page) but again it's your call. Not anything severe, but enough to stop IP users at least from editing on it. My feeling is that the most important part of the editing phase wrt to the situation with Morey has come to pass, but there still are the aftereffects we need to deal with (i.e. stragglers who hear the news from the grapevine and just are hell bent on skewing the section in one way or the other.) Regardless of what you do though, I think we can both agree: it's a pain that we need to keep putting an eye on this issue but it is what it is. Best case scenario is if nobody in the NBA talks about this tweet thing anymore but of course that really is out of our hands. Flaughtin (talk) 22:29, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on open proxies, so I will defer from taking action on those grounds. However, you can pursue it at WP:OP. As far as the content issue, aside from just reverting or boldly editing it, you could consider starting a talk page discussion and see if there is any consensus for the disputed points. Outside of egregious policy violations, I'll also defer on admin action on my part because I'm WP:INVOLVED. Thanks for your vigilance wrt WP:NPOV. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 23:42, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Will do and thanks for the info. Flaughtin (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

BaghdadiEdit

Hi Bagumba. Al-Baghdadi got 10 mins before the image was changed. Would you mind if we gave him a few hours before switching to this new image? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:48, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@MSGJ: I had saw that it had been up for about 6 hours when it was first post on October 28 [1]. It also seems like old news.—Bagumba (talk) 09:03, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
Ah, okay. I didn't notice it had already been up — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:06, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

2019 World SeriesEdit

Okay, I get that "title" could mean any title. It just said "title" for the franchise but that could only be the World Series. But the city has won a World Series and that seems important enough for the lead. I also don't see the title anywhere so You need to show me where it is.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:08, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: Thanks for discussing this. The 1924 title is in the end of next to last paragraph at 2019_World_Series#Game_7. I just think the sources put more WP:WEIGHT on it being the Nationals first title, and not as much about DC's first WS in a while. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 18:23, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
It was mentioned on the news, so I thought it needed to be said.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:29, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

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1994-95 Seattle SuperSonics seasonEdit

Hello, there is a user Wikiacontribbutor who keeps making questionable edits to the 1994-95 Seattle SuperSonics page see this.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

@UCO2009bluejay: That edit on its own looks ok, but I suppose there is more history that you might be referring to? Have you asked them what they are trying to do?—Bagumba (talk) 01:30, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Possible sock puppet on 2019–20 Ottawa Senators season pageEdit

Hi Bagumba, I've become suspicious about these two IP users, 2607:FEA8 (long IP address) and 174.112.37.23 that have edited the Senators page. I feel that both IP users edits are very similar. 2607:FEA8 updates the page almost immediately after each Senators game. They edit the page in sections; they would update the info box area where the general team information is, the regular season game log, and the statistics section. Here are the IP's most recent edits [2], [3], [4] from November 7. 174.112.37.23 has not edited since October 27, but I feel that it could be the same person connected to a different internet connection due to the similarities in their edits [5], [6], [7]. A few things that made think that these two IP users are connected, is that they both make multiple edits, the attendance and recap parameters in the game log are blank (although 2607:FEA8 had the attendance filled in the [2] diff, most of the time 2607:FEA8 leaves the attendance and recap parameters blank), and both IP's have edited the page instantly (sometimes a couple minutes) after a Senators' game is over. I could be very wrong about this, but the way these two IP's have edited seem quite suspicious to me. Although, the fact that 174.112.37.23 has not edited for a while hurts the chances of it being a sock puppet. But, as I said, it could likely be the same person using an internet connection different from their own home connection. Also, I apologize for bringing an ice hockey related issue to your attention. Yowashi (talk) 01:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

@Yowashi: You didnt mention a registered account, so I'll assume you only believe this is the same user who always uses IPs. (Though having an account and not being logged in can sometimes be OK too, see WP:LOGOUT) If so, there's nothing inherently wrong with using multiple IPs unless you can show it's being done for deceit. Are the edits incorrect, against consensus, etc? The IPs can legitimately be different if they are editing (honestly) from different locations, or using both mobile internet and a wired connection from the same geographic location. In the case of IPv6 addresses, the ISP rotates through addresses where the first four groups of addresses are the same, like these edits from 2607:FEA8:E2DF:F428:* The user has no control over the different IPs, and the are using the same connection.—Bagumba (talk) 02:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, there aren't any registered users that edit that page regularly. The only user that edits that page on a regular basis is 2607:FEA8:E2DF:F428. I just assumed that it could have been a possible sock puppet due to the two IP's having such similar edits. Perhaps I may have to familiarize myself with sock puppetry a little more before I make assumptions. I just thought that editors aren't allowed using more than one account or multiple IP addresses in general. That's what I thought sock puppetry was. To answer your question about the IP's edits, there is nothing wrong with the edits that are made. Anyhow, thanks for explaining how IP's work. Yowashi (talk) 02:59, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
@Yowashi: Yeah, check out WP:SOCK if you are inclined. The key problem is when it's done ... to deceive or mislead other editors, disrupt discussions, distort consensus, avoid sanctions, evade blocks, or otherwise violate community standards and policies. Though some get bugged even when edits are productive but they believe an editor with an account is logged out—Bagumba (talk) 03:07, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
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