Wikipedia talk:TWA/Portal

Latest comment: 1 day ago by Pppery in topic New version incoming

The
Adventure



Welcome to the Interstellar Lounge and Cafe!


More funky, or… …less funky.
'Sit down, have a cup. While you're here something to muse on:'

Think about what an awesome trip you're on,
How many millions of people benefit from Wikipedia every day,
How marvelous it is that people all over the world have collaborated to create this unique resource,
How important sharing knowledge is,
How people working together over time can do amazing things.

Hope that was an inspiring musing. 😎-----😇 all to help u guys!

Get help

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Need help with something in The Wikipedia Adventure?

What to do next

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Tips for feedback

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Tell us what you liked about it, where we could improve, and what you learned

How you can help
  • Play the game all the way through. Do you get stuck anywhere? Is anything unclear?
  • Finish the game if you only played a few missions: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
  • Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
  • Try a different browser: If you used Safari, try Firefox (or Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera...)
  • Show the game to a friend or family member to see how they like it and if they get stuck anywhere
In your feedback, please include any of your thoughts on
  • text instructions within the game
  • graphic placement
  • bugs in the tour mechanics
  • your web browser
  • your screen resolution
  • which step of the tour you were on if something didn't work (see the step= in the url)
  • what you liked
  • what you didn't like
  • what you think would work better
  • your thoughts on the design: the theme, the guide, the characters, the colors, the images, the sounds
known bugs

GuidedTour mechanics

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  • Lingering Dialog Boxes: If you leave the tour without finishing, the guider dialog boxes will follow you until you [x] out of them (this is a Guided Tours issue generally and there's no easy fix) Example (phab:T122891)
  • Vector Only: If you're using monobook or modern etc., the layout won't work. Almost all new editors will be using Vector, so this is a known, acceptable trade-off (phab:T122891)
  • Source Editor Only: The game doesn't work with Visual Editor. It could, but it won't be fixed until VE is stable and out of opt-in beta. Example (phab:T122883)
  • Mobile and Tablet Formatting Fails: While tested for most modern desktop and laptop browsers, the game is not configured to work properly on tablets and other smaller devices. It may, but we'd be getting lucky. (phab:T122892)
  • Doesn't scale to my preference of window size or scale symmetrically (ctrl 0/-/+). FF 25. (@start) (T122893)
  • There's no way to jump ahead if you are repeating steps or trying to get back to where you left off mid-mission. (phab:T122895)
  • If you [x] out of the tour, especially if so you can edit, then there's no way to get back to where you were (see example fix above for a 'skip' option) (should skips go per step, or per chunk?) Example (T122895)

Content

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  • TWA doesn't use/introduce cite templates (T122897)
  • no mention of plagiarism and copy/paste problems (T122898)
  • no mention of Show Preview (T365218)

Design

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Feedback

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What I liked

...EVERYTHING SO FUN I learned wiki editing so fun! thanks for making this

What I didn't like

...honestly, nothing

What I wanted more of

...more missions!!!

What was unnecessary

...nothing!

Any other thoughts you want to share

...make more series!!

--Preview83 (talk) 05:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Feedback

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Hello, I'm not able to play TWA. I'm stuck on the "Login or create an account" popup, and when I press any button, it shows a blue outline but doesn't redirect me anywhere. Yyeeetlol (talk) 14:20, 17 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have the same problem. GoldRomean (talk) 03:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Me too I can't click on the blue button Neko UwUshe/her 23:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Ocaasi sorry to disturb you, because you're probably really busy, but we can't play TWA. As Yyeeetlol described, I can't press any white buttons; they just show blue outlines. I really want to play this reportedly awesome Wikipedia-learning game! Personally, I've tried 2 browsers (Chrome and Edge), as well as 2 different computers. I've also refreshed and attempted to play on different days. The funny thing is, I tried to play when I first made my account, too, and it worked fine (I just quit). Friendly people at Wikipedia Live Chat pointed me here; but the original message hasn't received a response for almost a week, so I was wondering if you could help. Thank you. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 23:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I did indeed miss the original message, but I saw your first "I have the same problem" but didn't reply not thinking I could say anything useful. Anyway, this issue is known about and has been filed on Phabricator as T364062. Given the way Wikipedia's software deployment system works, it will not be addressed until at least next Thursday, more likely the Thursday after next. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok, TYSM! I'll try again then. GoldRomean (talk) 00:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've added a warning to the home page to make it clear that it's broken. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I can confirm this will indeed start working next Thursday (see WP:Bug reports and feature requests#Software deployment schedule for why this happens on Thursdays). * Pppery * it has begun... 15:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@GoldRomean and Yyeeetlol: This has now been fixed (sooner then I expected because someone decided to backport it rather than waiting for the standard deployment schedule). * Pppery * it has begun... 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Fix ping: RoyalSilver * Pppery * it has begun... 22:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! RoyalSilver 00:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery forgot to ping RoyalSilver 00:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yay, I can play now! Tysm for your help. GoldRomean (talk) 17:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Edit request

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In the notice make changes as follows:

The Wikipedia Adventure is currently non-functional due to T364062
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The Wikipedia Adventure is currently non-functional due to T364062.

Just a small grammar fix for admins to do. Pinging User:Pppery because you added the notice. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

If you reply, please ping me. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@TheTechie:  Done * Pppery * it has begun... 03:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Blue start button not working properly

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Not sure if this is happening with other people, but the Blue Start This Adventure button is acting weirdly for me. Not every part of the button is working. The left part of the button is clickable while the right part isn't.--Mrb Rafi (talk) 13:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

New version incoming

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I've mostly finished a rewrite of the Wikipedia adventure to fix a bunch of bugs. Major changes include:

  1. Support both VisualEditor and the source editor.
  2. Send replies using DiscussionTools rather than the source editor.
  3. Don't send duplicate badges or talk messages - if a mission expects a page to not exist then overwrite its entire content if it does, otherwise append content only if it doesn't already exist, staying in the same frame.
  4. Messages now have proper timestamps and don't spew unused code (this part's already been deployed)
  5. Some general cleanup of wording etc.

Code is at MediaWiki:Guidedtour-tour-twa1sandbox.js through MediaWiki:Guidedtour-tour-twa7sandbox.js, but unfortunately it's difficult to test since internal links and such hardcode the name of the tour. What I did was add logic at User:Pppery (alt)/common.js to auto-load the sandbox version, but that workaround itself sometimes causes stray guiders to appear that shouldn't.

A few things are dependent on upstream patches to the GuidedTour code (i.e the "I'm logged in" screen should be auto-skipped but isn't pending gerrit:1031109, it generates a redundant back button for most steps pending gerrit:1031113, etc.), so it isn't ready to be deployed for a week or two.

It's also a known issue that when using VisualEditor the boxes occasionally appear in awkward places - VisualEditor's Javascript scrolling and GuidedTour don't always mix perfectly. I tried to put it in a reasonable place all the time, but I may have missed some. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I decided to stop waiting for WMF's broken code review process to happen and instead work around the upstream issues. I intend to deploy this in a few days. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Feedback

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What I liked

I liked how TWA covered most of Wikipedia's main points like NPOV and BEBOLD. It's a pretty simple tutorial for new editors.

What I didn't like

Many of the images I had to add to the Earth article didn't seem like images that would be on such an article on the real Wikipedia. This could be misleading. The whole game was also glitchy (for example, on many pages the "talk" "page history" etc. buttons were invisible, so I had to randomly click near the top to access it. Also, I know your progress "saves" after each "level" but I forgot what level I was on so had to start near the beginning.

What I wanted more of

You couldn't actually analyze the citations and had to guess their reliability by their titles. Also, the game provided the actual citation for you. I wanted to learn how to do that formatting myself.

What was unnecessary

The cool "space" design on every page, since it feels different than real Wikipedia.

Any other thoughts you want to share

It's a nice game. Thanks for making it. It's very glitchy, though. There were a few grammar errors.

--GoldRomean (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've updated the images to ones more relevant to the specific sections they're in, which are either used on the real Earth article or a related one. The rewrite discussed above will teach you how to use an automatic tool to generate citations. I'm not sure what you mean re "talk" "page history" etc. buttons - I don't think you're ever told to click on such a button.
This game has no concept of progress per se - very little will break if you skip missions entirely other than leaving you confused.
If you can point to specific places where the grammar is awkward I would be happy to reword them. And thank you for playing, and sorry that it had so many rough edges. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Feedback

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What I liked

...The simplicity

What I didn't like

...The UI

What I wanted more of

...More visual

What was unnecessary

...Nothing

Any other thoughts you want to share

...Excellent way to start

--Tblocks (talk) 11:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply