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November 12Edit

Using a lecture as a cited sourceEdit

If a notable person gives a lecture in a public forum telling about his life, can this be considered a reliable source? We are talking about information not likely to be contested, such as who influenced him, etc. Is it considered "original research"? What if the lecture is not published in print, but the audio is recorded (and thus verifiable)? Is there a citation template for a lecture? Thank you, Eagledj (talk) 00:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

sorry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamp123kid (talkcontribs) 00:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Lamp123kid. We require that the source be published (so that in principle, anybody can get hold of a copy - though it doesn't have to be easy, or free of charge) reliably (so it's not just a random person - or even the lecturer - putting it up on their personal blog or website). But if it meets those requirements, then yes, it can be cited as a source. I don't think there is a policy which says whether to cite the lecture or the transcript (or both) in that case. You can use templates such as {{cite journal}} and {{cite video}}. --ColinFine (talk) 01:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @Eagledj: Hello, Colin has replied to your question but a less than helpful interloper has confused the issue. Eagleash (talk) 04:50, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Adam DahlbergEdit

I need some help with Draft:Adam Dahlberg. There's an error in the references saying the invoked ref hasn't been defined, even though it has... I can't seem to find what's wrong, could someone please fix it? Thank you in advance. Melofors (talk) 01:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Cured in this edit; simply a missing equals character in the ref definition. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Edits in your bioEdit

Donal Logue (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I notice a lot of activity in my bio that removes important information or reports erroneous stuff. It takes away any reference to my living in Nogales, Arizona and El Centro, California. Going to School in England, (St. Ignatius College) winning the American Legion Boys' nation Presidency in 1983 (it links to American Legion Boys' Nation)

the same people jump on board and tear up my bio. I contribute financially to wiki but I'm starting to get frustrated with the open door policy donal logue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donallogue (talkcontribs) 03:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@Donallogue: Hello, according to your contrbutions, you have not edited the page since 2012. There were a number of unconstructive changes made to the page in October 2019 and these were quickly dealt with as vandalism and the page restored to a stable version. If you have changes you would like to see made to the article please make requests on its talk page and provide reliable sources. See Template:Request edit for instructions. Please also read WP:COI and make the necessary disclosures. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
@Donallogue:, please also note that even if it you were to add such material, it ought to and probably would be removed unless it was cited to a published Reliable source independent of yourself. All facts in Wikipedia must be verified by such citations so that readers can confirm for themselves, if they wish, that they are not inventions inserted by mischievous third parties pretending to be you: such things do happen here. Things that you know but are not published are inadmissable, because readers cannot consult your mind to confirm them. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 17:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
@Donallogue: Do you have anywhere else where we can read about the things you want added to the article? If you have a source we can use for reference, that would be really helpful. --Jayron32 17:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Adding a new article on wikipediaEdit

Good Day Wikipedia team,

I wanted to find out how i can go about adding an artist bio on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naye Ayla (talkcontribs) 08:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Naye Ayla. Writing a new article is one of the hardest tasks on Wikipedia, and I always advise new editors to spend a few weeks or months improving some of our six million existing articles before they try it, so they can learn how Wikipedia works and what not to do. If you do write an article about the artist, remember, that it must be almost entirely based on what people unconnected with the artist have chosen to publish about them (Wikipedia is not interested in what the artist says about themselves, or what their associates say - and that will include any galleries or exhibitions who have shown them), and it must be neutral in tone, not promotional in any way. If there is not enough independently published material about them, then they do not meet Wikipedia's criteria of notability, and no article on them will be accepted however it is written. But if you want to try it, please start by reading your first article.
Two more caveats: if you have come here because you want to tell the world about the artist, or to help improve their online presence: that is promotion, and is incompatible with the purposes of Wikipedia. And if the artist in question is yourself, please note that autobiography is very strongly discouraged. --ColinFine (talk) 10:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Help on deletion processEdit

Hi all, I have proposed via TW for a page to be deleted, but I do not see that nomination listed at today's articles for deletion log. Did I do something wrong? Will a bot list it some time later? Thanks. Cinadon36 09:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@Cinadon36: Twinkle's edits were correct. You have tagged the article for "uncontroversial" deletion via the Wikipedia:Proposed deletion process, whereas the "articles for deletion" log is for articles where the deletion needs discussion, using the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion process. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:32, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you John of Reading, I think now I did it the proper way. Cheers. Cinadon36 14:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Edit helpEdit

I have made Plot summary for Blaze (2018 film). When I went back to edit the second paragraph, the new type characters fill in about seven spaces back. I have two sentences to add but there seems to be a blank space I cannot type. I closed the article to go back in and that did not help. Please go to the article to see my problem. There is some kind of code in the text. The delete key keeps backing more text out. Thanks. Eschoryii (talk) 10:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@Eschoryii:   Fixed... space removed; you'll need to edit the text to what you were wanting to say. Eagleash (talk) 10:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Eschoryii. I have often had that problem with the source editor: it is clearly a bug, but I haven't looked to see if anybody has reported it (I guess they must have, but a quick search of WP:VPT didn't seem to show anything). I just ignore it, and work round it. --ColinFine (talk) 10:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your help and quick response. I completed the plot summary. Eschoryii (talk) 14:43, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

List of postage stamps of PakistanEdit

List of postage stamps of Pakistan appears on the list of April Articles Requiring a Copy Edit list at the Community Portal. April and several other months are being "cleaned up" by a GOCE backlog blitz. I am in the process of editing this article, however, there is no "Copy Edit" tag on the article that I can find. I'm not sure how to "remove" it from this list in this case. Normally, once the "Copy Edit" tag is removed it "disappears" from the list. Thanks, Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

The one which is on the Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit from April 2019 list is List of postage stamps of Pakistan from 1967 to 1976, which does have the CE tag. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:21, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Found it, thanks!! Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:46, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Changing UK/US spelling in quotationsEdit

This edit changed "normalising" to "normalizing" - but note that it happened within a WP:QUOTE. I find this to be a tampering of what was actually said, albeit a very minor one. Does this violate any established Wikipedia policy? Otherwise, is this kind of edits normally allowed? (Please ping me when replying) —Srid🍁 14:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

It's worth following the link to the ref, where you can see that "z" was used. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Pinging Sridc to the above reply, and while I am here, WP:ENGVAR is the operating guideline and mentions explicitly to keep the original spelling. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Also the use of "z" is NOT specifically a US spelling. It is an alternative spelling in the UK and is in fact the spelling recommended by the Oxford Dictionary.--Shantavira|feed me 09:08, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Google translateEdit

Can you allow google translate because Traditional Chinese is too short or no Traditional Chinese page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kikiwong0818 (talkcontribs) 14:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

The guideline is "Avoid machine translations". --David Biddulph (talk) 14:52, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Secueity restrictionEdit

Please undo the security certificate requirement. An encyclopedia should be easy access.

Those of us on old browsers are not always able to upgrade the browser easily.

Why make it so hard to get info?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia is run by the Wikimedia Foundation which decided in 2015 to only use https.[1] I read this help desk daily and don't recall another complaint. Which browser and version are you using? Are you unable to access all https sites? That's a large part of the Internet. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
First of all, please note that this is just what I think is going on from what I know about security certificate. We require a certificate to make sure that the data being sent back and forth will not be intercepted and changed. This is done for your safety, you can override this in the same way you did to post this question. There might be someone else who could answer better, but i hope this answered your question. LakesideMinersCome Talk To Me! 17:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Obviously, if you could post here, you managed to work it out somehow.
If it was possible to access Wikipedia via HTTP, it would be possible (for instance) for the Chinese government to alter how pages pertaining to the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests appear.
Is it a price worth paying to maintain HTTP compatibility? From a quick search it seems that Firefox and Google Chrome have been supporting HTTPS since at least 2011. I doubt the other browsers (Safari, Opera, IE) were behind by much. Browsers without HTTPS support are not "old", they are ancient, and dangerous to use because of unpatched vulnerabilities. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Italic titleEdit

Minor coding issue: I cannot figure out why the page title for Aleluya (En La Tierra) is half in italics and half not. I tried the "Italic title" template but it did not work. That is the full title of the album and it should all be in italics. Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:17, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Interesting question. The Infobox album should italize it automatically. I will be interested to see if someone can tell us why it is not working fully in this case. I even tried italic_title=force and no luck. RudolfRed (talk) 20:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
I did not consider a possible problem with the infobox. If that is the issue, I have also inquired at Template talk:Infobox album. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
  Done An editor named PrimeHunter has fixed it. Not sure why it didn't happen automatically, but all is well. Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
It was fixed with {{Italic title|all=yes}} combined with |italic_title=no in the infobox to avoid a clash.[2] {{Italic title}} and infoboxes which add italics assume by default that text in parentheses is disambiguation, e.g. "(album)", and should not have italics. This is probably right more than 99% of the time. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Just the search hastemplate:"Infobox album" intitle:album gives 55000 hits where nearly all would be wrong if the whole title had italics. Man, we have a lot of album articles with disambiguation. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. I suspected something involving parentheses and disambiguation but my technical knowledge of template operations is pretty weak. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 22:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Do libraries have any special notability rules? What notability requirements apply to them?Edit

Mulling over the idea of a draft on my local library, making absolutely sure it'd actually be notable for wikipedia. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 21:21, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Apart from GNG, WP:NORG and/or WP:NBUILD could apply. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Hawaii Dams list incomplete request for more informationEdit

Hello, the link below has more information about Hawaii Dams. found the link by googling: LIST OF DAMS AND RESERVOIRS IN HAWAII Report to Legislature

huge cryptic list of dams

Dams in Honolulu County State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date OA-0001 Nuuanu Dam No. 4 Visual Dam Safety 13-Nov-14 OA-0021 Kemoo 5 Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 28-Jan-15 OA-0124 Kaneohe Dam Visual Dam Safety 24-Nov-14 OA-0129 Waimanalo Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 7-Aug-14 OA-0149 Maunaolu Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 14-Nov-14 Dams in Maui County State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date MA-0046 Waikamoi Dam No. 2 Visual Dam Safety 18-Nov-14 MA-0047 Piiholo Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 19-Nov-14 MA-0048 Olinda Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 18-Nov-14 MA-0054 Horner Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 29-Oct-14 MA-0056 Hanakaoo Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 29-Oct-14 MA-0057 Kahoma Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 12-Jun-15 MA-0058 Honokowai Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 24-Oct-14 MA-0059 Reservoir 140 Visual Dam Safety 24-Oct-14 MA-0070 HC&S Reservoir 20 Visual Dam Safety 29-Jun-15 MA-0072 HC&S Reservoir 22 Visual Dam Safety 30-Jun-15 MA-0075 HC&S Reservoir 30 Visual Dam Safety 30-Jun-15 MA-0076 HC&S Reservoir 33 Visual Dam Safety 29-Jun-15 9 State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date MA-0077 HC&S Reservoir 40 Visual Dam Safety 29-Jun-15 MA-0078 HC&S Reservoir 42 Visual Dam Safety 19-May-15 MA-0079 HC&S Reservoir 52 Visual Dam Safety 28-Apr-15 MA-0082 HC&S Reservoir 70 Visual Dam Safety 24-Mar-15 MA-0083 HC&S Reservoir 73 Visual Dam Safety 25-Mar-15 MA-0084 HC&S Reservoir 74 Visual Dam Safety 25-Mar-15 MA-0085 HC&S Reservoir 80 Visual Dam Safety 28-Apr-15 MA-0086 HC&S Reservoir 81 Visual Dam Safety 28-Apr-15 MA-0087 HC&S Reservoir 82 Visual Dam Safety 29-Apr-15 MA-0088 HC&S Reservoir 84 Visual Dam Safety 29-Apr-15 MA-0089 HC&S Reservoir 90 Visual Dam Safety 24-Mar-15 MA-0090 HC&S Reservoir 92 Visual Dam Safety 24-Mar-15 MA-0091 Peahi Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 21-Jan-15 MA-0092 Papaaea Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 21-Jan-15 MA-0093 Kaupakalua Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 4-Dec-14 MA-0094 Kapalaalaea Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 21-Jan-15 MA-0095 Haiku Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 4-Dec-14 MA-0096 Pauwela Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 4-Dec-14 MA-0125 Happy Valley Flood Prevention Visual Dam Safety 21-Aug-14 MA-0126 Kahana Nui Dam Visual Dam Safety 12-Sep-14 MA-0127 Napili 4-5 Desilting Basin Visual Dam Safety 21-Aug-14 MA-0128 Napili 2-3 Desilting Basiin Visual Dam Safety 12-Sep-14 MA-0130 Honokowai Structure #8 Visual Dam Safety 12-Sep-14 MA-0132 Upper Field 14 Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 24-Oct-14 MA-0133 Puu Koa Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 23-Oct-14 MA-0134 Kaopala Basin Visual Dam Safety 12-Sep-14 MA-0138 Kahakapao Reservoirs Visual Dam Safety 18-Nov-14 MA-0139 Maui Field 290 Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 23-Oct-14 MA-0140 Ukumehame Reservoirs Visual Dam Safety 29-Jun-15 MA-0141 Kehalani Offsite Retention Basin Visual Dam Safety 2-Apr-15 MA-0142 Middle Field 14 Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 24-Oct-14 MA-0143 Kaili Ili Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 23-Oct-14 MA-0144 Mahinahina Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 19-Nov-14 MA-0150 Wailuku Water Reservoir 6 Visual Dam Safety 12-Jun-15 MA-0151 Wailuku Water Reservoir 10 Visual Dam Safety 19-May-15 MA-0152 Waikamoi Reservoirs Visual Dam Safety 18-Nov-14 MA-0153 Plantation Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 24-Oct-14 MO-0041 Kualapuu Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 24-Feb-15 10 Dams in Hawaii County State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date HA-0043 Puukapu Watershed Retarding Dam R-1 Visual Dam Safety 6-Nov-14 HA-0051 Hawi No. 5 Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 6-Nov-14 Dams in Kauai County State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date KA-0010 Waiakalua Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 7-Apr-15 KA-0013 Upper Kapahi Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 2-Jul-14 KA-0024 Kalihiwai Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 13-Jan-15 KA-0061 Lower Kapahi Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 2-Jul-14 KA-0063 Aahoaka Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 13-Jan-15 KA-0098 Alexander Visual Dam Safety 2-Jun-15 KA-0101 Hukiwai Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 31-Mar-15 KA-0102 Ioleau Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 31-Mar-15 KA-0103 Aepo Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 17-Sep-14 KA-0104 Huinawai Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 17-Sep-14 KA-0106 Kumano Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 1-Oct-14 KA-0107 Puu O Hewa Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 27-May-15 KA-0108 Kaupale Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 15-Oct-14 KA-0110 Aepoalua Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 17-Sep-14 KA-0111 Aepoekolu Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 1-Oct-14 KA-0112 Aepoeha Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 1-Oct-14 KA-0113 Omao Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 15-Oct-14 KA-0114 Piwai Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 15-Oct-14 KA-0115 Pia Mill Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 27-May-15 KA-0119 Mauka Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 27-May-15 KA-0145 Kauai Lagoons Visual Dam Safety 5-May-15 KA-0146 Halaula Reservoir Visual Dam Safety 12-Mar-25 KA-0155 Pond No. 1 at Kauai Ranch Visual Dam Safety 12-Mar-25 Other Inspections Conducted Statewide State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date KA-0012 Kapaia Reservoir Informal - UHSLC Gage 7-Apr-15 KA-0024 Kalihiwai Reservoir Informal - UHSLC Gage 7-Apr-15 KA-0060 Wailua Reservoir Informal - UHSLC Gage 7-Apr-15 KA-0099 Waita Reservoir Informal - UHSLC Gage 7-Apr-15 MA-0074 HC&S Reservoir 24 Informal - UHSLC Gage 18-Feb-15 MA-0093 Kaupakalua Reservoir Informal - UHSLC Gage 18-Feb-15 11 State ID Dam Name Type of Inspection Date KA-0010 Waiakalua Reservoir Informal - UHSLC 25-Jun-15 KA-0105 Elima Reservoir Informal - Reservoir Drained 31-Mar-15 HA-0040 Waikoloa Reservoir No. 1 Informal - Post Earthquake 26-Aug-14 HA-0042 Waimea 60 MG Reservoir Informal - Post Earthquake 25-Aug-14 HA-0051 Hawi No. 5 Reservoir Informal - Post Earthquake 25-Aug-14 HA-0122 Waikoloa Reservoir No. 2 Informal - Post Earthquake 26-Aug-14 HA-0123 Puu Pulehu Reservoir Informal - Post Earthquake 25-Aug-14 HA-0131 Paauilo Reservoir Informal - Post Earthquake 25-Aug-14 HA-0136 Waikoloa Reservoir No. 3 Informal - Post Earthquake 26-Aug-14 HA-0147 Punawai Reservoir Informal - Post Earthquake 25-Aug-14 MA-0048 Olinda Reservoir Informal - Polyurea Liner 9-Dec-14 MA-0152 Waikamoi Reservoirs Informal - Polypropolene Liner 9-Dec-14 MA-0095 Haiku Reservoir Informal - Outlet Piping 2-Apr-15 KA-0024 Kalihiwai Reservoir Informal - Outlet Gate Repairs 25-Jun-15 UKA-1019 Hanini Resevoir Informal - Jurisdictional size 17-Sep-14 MA-0074 HC&S Reservoir 24 Informal - EAP Training 20-Apr-15 OA-0017 Wahiawa Dam Informal - EAP Training 22-Apr-15 MA-0141 Kehalani Offsite Detention Basin Informal - Channel 21-Aug-14 MA-0095 Haiku Reservoir Informal - Annular Seepage - NOD 9-Dec-14 KA-0013 Upper Kapahi Reservoir Construction 27-May-15 KA-0013 Upper Kapahi Reservoir Construction 2-Jun-15 KA-0013 Upper Kapahi Reservoir Construction 25-Jun-15 KA-0044 Ahukini Reservoir Construction 1-Oct-14

— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

If this is intended as input for an existing article, please go to that article's talk page to discuss. If you are proposing a new article, please read WP:YFA, and then come back here if you have a question. -Arch dude (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

November 13Edit

IHS Markit: TALK says PROD, article has In_Use/7 days no activity, but no AfDEdit

There are two issues regarding IHS Markit, each involving a different fellow editor:

  • PROD tag on Talk, but no AfD
  • In Use, but no activity for seven days.

I could just take off the In use but that would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I don't see this as a crisis-level/ANI, but . . . this needs some intervention. Thanks.

A PROD does not require (and should not have) an AFD. It's a short form of deletion for what is believed to be a non controversial case that does require an AFD. In this case the concerns were addressed and the PROD was removed by user:DGG on Nov 1. Teh tal kpage notice is just a notice that the article was prodded, which means that it cannot be prodded again.
I will remove the under construction tag since significant work was done since it was added, and no-one is currently active on it. Meters (talk) 00:59, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
And it was an "Under Construction" tag, not an "In Use" tag. No objection of course if someone still intends to work on it and wants to restore the Under Construction Meters (talk) 01:04, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included refEdit

@Son of swamy 169:. When you request help with a reference, please provide the page you are having trouble with. RudolfRed (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Bill TaylorEdit

My question to you just like it was to Google. Why have you hidden this man's political party, William Taylor. I want to know if he's a democtat, we know he's an Obama hold over. Why must you sanitize everything that is anti-republican like Google does. People like you are destroying this country. Facebook, Google & Wikipedia. Your misinformation you give is what's wrong today in America. Like the media in their articles, fail to give the political affiliation with all of these whistleblowers and these people going against our president for political purposes. Just to destroy this country when he's done nothing wrong but better this nation... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Excuse me, but WHAT? TheAwesomeHwyh 02:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
We have a lot of articles about different William Taylors. Which article are you asking about? RudolfRed (talk) 02:33, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Ehm... Which one? There are a lot of them. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 02:36, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I suspect the IP refers to William B. Taylor Jr. Wikipedia is not a political platform. We present subjects neutrally, with reliable sources. In regards to the Bill Taylor I linked, we do not list his political party because he is not a politician and reliable sources did not mention his political affiliation. He seems to be a career diplomat, and not an elected official, and thus his political affiliation was not relevant. We do not change articles to help or hurt any particular politician, and try very hard to ensure articles are neutral and complete. We are all volunteers, and may have missed something however. If you think something is incorrect or missing, you are welcome to propose changes to the article on its talk page, keeping in mind that any additions must have a reliable source to back them up. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 03:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Counting contributionsEdit

How can I tell how many contributions I've made, other than by going back and back in time over my Contributions page, 500 contributions at a time, and counting the clicks? Since I have been on Wikipedia over 14 years, that would be pretty excessive. Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 04:53, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Never mind. I just found #Number of contributions, above. --Thnidu (talk) 05:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
There's also this userscript which you can install, it shows the edit count of users when you visit their userpage. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Approval of Wikipedia articleEdit

To whomsoever this concerns,

I have created and formatted an article in the Wikipedia sandbox. When can I expect the article to show up in the Wikipedia search, and thereby in a simple Google search? What is the process for creating the article under a specific topic, if I haven't managed to do so already? Please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lodha Luxury (talkcontribs) 05:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@Lodha Luxury: Before we can go any further, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make any necessary disclosures. The latter page is mandatory where applicable, under Wikipedia's terms of use. The sandbox article you have created will need to be submitted for review, be approved and moved to mainspace before it can be indexed by search engines. Some useful links have been left at your talk page, please study them carefully and please note that Wikipedia reports on what has been written about a subject in multiple independent reliable sources (see the notability guidelines) and it is not a site where promotional content is acceptable. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 05:40, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Transferring image from one language wiki to anotherEdit

Hello fine helpdesk volunteers, I need some help with an image-related query. There is an image on the Javanese wikipedia which doesn't seem to be located on Wikimedia Commons. I would like to be able to use this image in the English equivalent of the Javanese article, how can I transfer the image? werewolf (talk) 05:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@Revirvlkodlaku: You will need to upload it here at WP:UPLOAD, if it meets all of the criteria at WP:NFCC. Unless it is a freely licensed image, and in that case, you should upload it to commons at that same link. RudolfRed (talk) 05:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Which image? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the responses. @RudolfRed:, I don't have the file on my computer, it is on the Javanese Wikipedia but I don't know where it is stored, so how can I upload it? @PrimeHunter:, the photo is on this page: jv:Steven William. werewolf (talk) 14:59, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Revirvlkodlaku: You will need to determine the license on that image. It has a green (c) symbol which may mean it is licensed freely, but I'm not sure. We don't allow non-free images of living people on English Wikipedia. If you determine that it is freely licensed, then you can save a copy to your computer then upload it to commons. RudolfRed (talk) 17:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Oops, I didn't even think to save the image to my computer. D'oh! Thanks for the help! werewolf (talk) 18:42, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Revirvlkodlaku: You uploaded commons:File:Steven william.jpg without required license information. jv:File:Steven william.jpg displays which according to Google Translate says: "This image is copyrighted and is from any Use of images from this site is permitted to be used on Wikipedia by redirecting the site". "redirecting" should probably be translated as "linking" and any copy at other wikis should at a minimum link to But includes according to Google Translate: "User agrees not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, trade, resell, or otherwise use for commercial purposes any of the materials contained in the™ service, without the prior written consent of™". Wikipedia allows commercial reuse of images we host. I don't know Javanese and may be missing something but looks very problematic, also for use in the Javanese Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:53, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Right, I see the problem. I think I assumed that the green (c) symbol made it safe to use. Would you recommend removing the image from the English Wikipedia page? werewolf (talk) 20:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Revirvlkodlaku: Yes, unless there is more convincing license information somewhere. It has been marked as a copyright violation at Commons and will probably be deleted there anyway. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:37, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Gotcha, I will go ahead and do that then, thanks. werewolf (talk) 00:57, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Pageview Statistics for BibleEdit

I have been looking at page viewing statistics for some articles, and I would like to know if someone with knowledge of On 5 March 2019, it was 4326. Starting on 6 March 2019, I see 55,573 pageviews. By the way, that was Ash Wednesday. On 15 April 2019, I see 284,992 pageviews. That wasn't Easter, by the way. Easter was 21 April 2019, and was 256,054 pageviews. The pageview metrics drop off in May 2019, but then fluctuate between thousands of pageviews and hundreds of thousands of pageviews. How confident can we be that there really is a weirdly fluctuating demand for viewing of the Bible article? Comments? Robert McClenon (talk) 08:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

IMHO, the reported values are not at all plausible. Maproom (talk) 08:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, User:Maproom. Is there a trouble ticketing system, such as Phabricator, for reporting the issue? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I could make some sort of philosophical joke about a use-mention distinction or the difference between the symbol and the thing symbolized, except that on a given day, the number of readers who read the Bible is not in the hundreds of thousands, but the hundreds of millions. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:27, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
In the year 2018, the daily viewing metrics are: 3800 average daily pageviews , and I find them consistent with other commonly read articles.
In the year 2017, we see an average of 4177 daily pageviews, and I believe that. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:33, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm going to ping a few other editors who sometimes work with pageview metrics in deletion discussions and for other reasons. Since there isn't a deletion discussion, I think that I am not canvassing, but just requesting some informed consultation on a strange technical matter. User:BrownHairedGirl, User:Mark Schierbecker, User:Newshunter12: Can you please take a look at these pageview metrics for the article on the Bible? I think that a few thousand readers view the main article a day, and that the figures through 5 March 2019 are plausible. (We don't have a way of counting how many readers read the Bible on a given day, or listen to it being read in a given week.) Robert McClenon (talk) 18:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Comparison with other pages showing the view counter wasn't just broken or had changed. Don't see any major news coverage relating to the Bible spanning March/April 2019. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:03, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Looks to me like there is something v weird going on with the 2019 figures.
I suggest raising this at WP:VPT, where there seems to be lots of knowledgeable technie people who in my experience respond quickly and helpfully to a well-constructed query on even obscure issues. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:03, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Removal of an ArticleEdit


Could I kindly ask that an article is deleted as it is inaccurate and duplicates information.

The article page is called "RAF Worthy Down". I am a member of the organisation and have been asked to rectify this issue by the head of the organisation.

The two articles which contain accurate information are "Worthy Down Barracks" and "UK Defence College of Policing and Administration". Please note the second article was recently submitted and is still under review.

Many Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

If you are aware of inaccuracies at RAF Worthy Down, you should give details at its talk page, preferably with citations that support your claims. Then the article can be corrected. Wikipedia does not delete articles just because someone doesn't like them. Maproom (talk) 14:59, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


Hello Sir, I have written an article in Wikipedia. It has been rejected several times but the article is true and not promoted someone else. That Content Contains only True Facts. What can i do to make it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barathkumaar (talkcontribs) 15:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Barathkumaar is using wikipedia as a soapbox and engaging in sockpuppetry. Not worth the time. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 15:52, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Rejection of my submissionEdit

Daer, I don't understand the decision that my contribution is advertising.

description of changes

If I see it correctly, I have made three insertions. One is a factual description of a new technology in the field of Airborne Wind Energy. My quote:

Crosswind Technology

“With X-Wind technology, automatically controlled kites pull current-producing ground vehicles on an oval track.”

What is the difference to:

Carousel generator The “Carousel” configuration several kites fly at a constant height and higher altitudes, pulling in rotation a generator that moves on a wide circular rail. For a large Carousel system, the power obtained can be calculated as of the order of GW, exposing a law that see the power attainable as a function of the diameter raised to the fifth power, while the increment of cost of the generator is linear.

The second change was the insertion of a literature source of a scientific book, edited by 3 renowned scientists of the article with over 60 authors of the industry and appeared in one of the most serious science publishers worldwide.

The third insertion was the web address of a company working in the field of the article. This insertion has only completed the list of all other existing actors.

I cannot see to what extent these contributions should have been advertising. I ask for a factual explanation of the decision instead of a blanket rejection.

Many thanks in advance

Uwe Ahrens — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uwe Ahrens (talkcontribs) 16:01, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@Uwe Ahrens:Please discuss this with the editor who reverted it, on the article's talk page (ping the editor) or on the editor's talk page. It you cannot come to an agreement, then proceed to WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 16:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Help with User Page FormattingEdit

Hey guys, I normally consider myself pretty good at editing Wikipedia but I have no clue how to fix the formatting on my user page. I'm trying to put my "Medal Record" floating, pinned to the left, the image of the USS Atlantis in the center of the page, and different collapsible tables pinned to the right, one on top of the other. No matter what I do, it seems like the two tables on the right end up messed up. I will be eternally grateful to anyone who can figure out what I'm doing wrong. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 16:50, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Actually your Medal Records are on the right and collapsible boxes on left. So, please, clarify. Ruslik_Zero 17:58, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
You're correct, I had it mixed up in my original post. I'm trying to get the collapsibles one on top of the other on the left, the medal record on the right, and the image in the center. ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! 18:09, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


What are the policies about monetization? I have been thinking about getting a patreon to help support my editing on wiki, as well as my projects on and the online books page. Is using a patreon for my editing on wikipedia allowed?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 17:12, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Bellerophon5685, See WP:PAID MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 17:15, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
It is fine if you're open about it and follow the COI guidelines. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:35, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
How exactly am I supposed to be open about it? Will a note on profile page be sufficient or do I need to mention it on the talk page of each article I write?--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 20:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
A note on your userpage is sufficient. Since it's mostly paid advocacy that other editors tend to dislike, you might like to add "I reject payment to edit or advocate on anyone's behalf" like Czar does. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

How to do multiple independent editsEdit

There are two approaches to making a change that can be separated into multiple edits which are independent from each other. It can also be applied as one edit.

What is the preferred method in Wikipedia?

An example is a change that replaces an incorrect statement by a correct statement. Assuming the article is consistent after only removing the incorrect statement, doing so is a valid edit that solves the problem that the page was incorrect. It could be done alone, adding the replacement in a separate edit. Both could also be done in one edit.

Other examples are making a change in orthography while making a change in meaning, or adding content to multiple independent paragraphs. The latter could create a potentially long sequence of edits of the same person.

The use of separate edits has the advantage of preserving semantic structure, allowing separate reverts, and motivating much stronger to comment on every change in the publishing comments, rather than commenting it in summary.

Is there an established consensus which is preferred? If not, what is the advice to chose between them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volker Siegel (talkcontribs) 18:33, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@Volker Siegel: It is preferred to do several smaller edits instead of one larger edit. RudolfRed (talk) 18:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
It's really just up to you. In your first example, I'd say replacing with the correct statement in one edit would be preferable. In your second example, expanding on multiple paragraphs at once is also fine to do in a single edit. Potentially contentious edits might be better to do in several well explained edits. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Þjarkur: Perfect, thanks! That is exactly what I would think is best! Is it documented in some howto? (I did not find it) I see it as very relevant. Commonly doing it like that would create a substantial increase in information content of the metadata of Wikipedia. As a computer scientist, I see that on the background of managing program source code and related files. A large part of that is that it causes a very large increase in documentation of the separate changes. I found that for me, and see reasons to expect it to be the case for others: When publishing a small, self contained change, it is easy to write a short comment describing it. It may even be available in the short term memory. And it is a conceptual thing. It does not feel like a great effort to write a short comment in the process of publishing. A comment for a multi part change involve the long term memory, and I typically do not feel motivated to iterate all changes and often comment from the short term memory plus some incomplete summary of all other points. Volker Siegel (talk) 03:11, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Is this page CSD-worthy?Edit

Came across this page. I was going to tag it with G10 but I wasn't sure if this was an attack page or something that wasn't quite that. Could anyone else offer their opinion? Zupotachyon Ping me (talkcontribs) 21:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

@Zupotachyon: Yes, it is G10 or G2. Go ahead and tag it. RudolfRed (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Zupotachyon Ping me (talkcontribs) 22:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Page on the Hayes & Harlington Parliamentary ConstituencyEdit

I am logged as The Brexit Party candidate for the upcoming general election

I have never been affiliated with or a member of The Brexit Party

Please remove my name from this article

Thank you

Cliff Dixon

Page link — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:33, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

If you're not the Cliff Dixon who is contesting the election (and has contested the last 2 elections in that constituency), then it's of no relevance to you. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Cliff Dixon contested the last 2 elections for UKIP. The post is about the claim that he is contesting the next election for the Brexit Party. It was unsourced and goes against a source [3] saying Elizabeth Oyedoyin Babade. I have changed the Brexit Party candidate and added the source.[4] Thanks for telling us. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
True. Sorry about my mistaken reply which I've struck out. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
He did cause some confusion by saying "Please remove my name from this article". The name appeared as a candidate in four elections and only one of them was wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:12, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

How should I fix a missing population number in this Caribbean Netherlands article?Edit

After this revision the population is missing from Caribbean Netherlands. In the Legal Status section, the text reads "The population of the Caribbean Netherlands is .". How can this be fixed? The population is present in the sidebar. Thanks! --Martinship (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Fixed, the name didn't match the one used in Template:UN PopulationThjarkur (talk) 22:14, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! --Martinship (talk) 22:24, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


hi im trying to to edit a wikipedia article for my class and when i was editing a couple days ago i was able to hit the edit button on the top right of the article and edit it directly and now its only letting me edit the source code and i dont know how to change it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slovett23 (talkcontribs) 22:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Go to Preferences > Editing > Editing mode > Show me both editor tabs. Then clicking on "Edit" should open up the Visual Editor. You can also switch between the source code editor and the visual editor by clicking on the pencil icon in the top right corner of the source code editor. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


November 14Edit

Failed edit saveEdit

Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame!

Twice recently I have made some lengthy edits on a draft article, User:MinorProphet/Draft subpages/HMS Cyclops (1839), using the standard text editor. I'm using Firefox 47.0.1 on XP Professional, which is obviously somewhat out of date, but I have made no changes to Firefox or XP for some time and I normally have no problems.
I have kept the edit window open for a number of hours, using the Show Preview button often. Normally when I enter an edit summary and save after some time, I get the usual red message "We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data." (I seem to remember that the standard timeout is about 25 minutes.) Clicking Publish Changes once more normally results in success.
However, on these two occasions when I clicked Publish Changes, the entire tab and edit window was redrawn with very small fonts; then the standard fonts reappeared, but all the changes I had made had completely disappeared along with the edit summary, and I was left with the edit window as if I had just opened it. I've made a number of short edits on this draft and on other live articles with no problems. I'm well aware that saving more frequently might be better practice, or saving the draft to a local .txt file as a backup, but I have had no difficulty up till now.
Any suggestions please as to why this might have happened/how to avoid or fix it? I looked at the MediaWiki Manual:How to debug/Login problems but it seems to be for sysadmins and not users. A somewhat disconsolate MinorProphet (talk) 02:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Refining previous editEdit

Is it possible to refine edits after publishing? Is it desirable?

I assume no edits where made by others. It would result in one edit including the previous change and the refinement.

I think think it is currently at least possible by rolling back the previous change via undo, after copying its content. And then creating a refined independent change. I think that would lead to less cases of a self contained change spread over multiple changes. It could also avoid interlacing a self contained change by someone else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volker Siegel (talkcontribs) 03:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Volker Siegel, Howdy hello! Can't say I'm exactly sure what you're getting at. Are you asking if you can edit your edits after you've made them? If you ever make a mistake, or wanna fix something, any page can be edited at any time. But I may have misinterpreted your question, could you explain further? Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 05:11, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
@Volker Siegel: If you modify a saved edit then the page history will always show it as a new edit after the old edit. You cannot combine the two edits into one page history entry. It's possible to revert the first edit and make a new modified edit but then the page history shows three edits including the revert. This is not recommended. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC)


how can this help me spread my music around the glob? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrzood (talkcontribs) 04:47, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@Mrzood: It cannot. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a venue for promotion or advertising or hosting music. See WP:NOT. RudolfRed (talk) 05:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Mrzood, Howdy hello! Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, a repository of knowledge. It is not a platform to spread advertising, to increase visibility of people, or any number of things. If you'd like to see your music around the globe, keep making it, and with luck you'll end up famous someday, and then someone will write an article about you! But Wikipedia is not a venue to do that. If you use Wikipedia solely for self promotion, you will likely be removed from the platform. But if you'd like to help edit existing music articles, I suggest Wikipedia:WikiProject Music. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 05:08, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Mrzood, The above replies are entirely correct. Wikipedia is the wrong instrument for what you are hoping to achieve: it's a bit like trying to use a trombone to play a triangle part. Maybe you should consider the phrase Think globally, act locally. You will need a fanbase, possibly consisting of people who know you or live near you. Organise some gigs, persuade people to come along to listen to your music. Get them to spread the word on your behalf, if your music is any good. When you are famous, maybe someone else will write a Wikipedia article about you and your music. Best of luck. MinorProphet (talk) 14:06, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

How to publish an article about Dreamkidz in WikipediaEdit


Greetings .

DreamKidz Software Inc is a brainchild of a bunch of enthusiastic, NRI, working parents looking to offer a platform that will equip children with key skills to have an edge on challenges lying ahead from the comfort of their home. We would like to write an article about Dreamkidz in Wikipedia .

As we are new to Wikipedia, we will be obliged to know how to go about writing an article as in subject line it so that our article gets published in Wikipedia .

Dreamkidz (talk) 07:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Dreamkidz First, please read the information on your user talk page and request a change of username immediately; usernames cannot be that of a business per the username policy. Accounts also cannot be shared; you will need to designate a single individual to exclusively operate this account.
Wikipedia is not for businesses to tell the world about themselves. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about businesses that meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable business. Wikipedia is not interested in what a business wants to say about itself; it is interested in what others say about it. This does not includes the company website, staff interviews, republished press releases, routine announcements, or other primary sources. In order for you to be successful in writing about your business, you essentially need to forget everything you know about your business and only write based on the content of independent sources. Most people are unable to do this.
You have what is called a conflict of interest and are a paid editor; you will need to review and comply with these policies(the latter is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement and mandatory). 331dot (talk) 08:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

contribution missingEdit

Hello there, back on September 6 I submitted an article TheMarket NZ but did not receive a notification that it was rejected, though it has not moved into the article space. I recall the wait time being 8 weeks, but wondered if sometimes it takes longer?

Kind regards, Tracey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracey creed (talkcontribs) 09:40, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Tracey creed Your submission was deleted as unambiguous advertising on September 5th. You say you submitted it, but it was created by a different account. Did you create a new account? If you work for this company, you must comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 14 November 2019 (UTC)


i will not add anymore info to wiki's info thanks Random Person — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:17, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

As you wish. But you can always change your mind. Just please remember to add information, not misinformation. --CiaPan (talk) 12:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

De-Orphan wiki page - My Suicide StoryEdit

Hi, can anyone assist in - or give me advice on de-orphaning the page that I created? Thanks! Hidden Hills Editor (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

That article has a worse problem than being an orphan. It fails to establish that its subject is notable, because all of its references are to interviews with the creator of the episodes, and so not independent of the subject. Unless someone can find and cite some reliable independent published sources, it is in danger of being deleted. Maproom (talk) 16:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Jack McAdoo ‎Edit

Hello. I am a new writer to Wikipedia. I work for the JJM Media Group corporation with offices around the world. I have submitted an article on the CEO, Jack McAdoo who is searched for as a celebrity in poker, music, and podcasting. I have taken a page that was published on Wikipedia and removed their info and placed Mr. McAdoo's with links to his pages and references. Each time I have done this a certain user continues to submit it for deletion. Even stating that the person is only mentioned in passing when in fact the article is all about the subject. Other pages have direct external links to websites but my article is not allowed to have them?

This same article has been moved for publication by another user but always seems to be placed back for deletion. More so by one particular user here. What else can I do? I am asking editors for help. This is a highly sought after Grammy, Emmy, and Dove award winner who has 2 shows that are heard globally. He is a public speaker who tours the world speaking with Tony Robbins, Oprah, Wade Phils, and more. Please help. Thank you. Darcel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darcel2268 (talkcontribs) 14:49, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

You are editing in breach of Wikipedia's conditions, in that you have not made the mandatory declaration regarding paid editing. You also need to read about conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

There is no paid editing. There is a COI tag on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darcel2268 (talkcontribs) 17:07, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

If you work for the corporation whose CEO you are writing about, Darcel2268, Wikipedia regards you as a paid editor. --ColinFine (talk) 17:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
@Darcel2268: You have gotten off on the wrong foot, here, which has caused us to react negatively due to very long experience with this sort of article. So let's start over. You should not have tried to create this article in this way at all, because you have a conflict of interest. However, if you wish to attempt it anyway, then please read our guidelines. In a nutshell:
  1. Declare your paid status on your user page. This is mandatory and is part of the terms of service imposed by the owners of this web site. See WP:PAID.
  2. Ensure that your subject is notable by our definition, not yours. See WP:N. If your subject is notable, you should be able to cite a specific notability guideline and the specific references that support your claim. If you do, we will get an article in here somehow even if we get off to a rocky start. If the subject is not notable, then there is nothing you or anyone else can do to keep the article in Wikipedia, no matter how wonderful it is in every other respect.
  3. Carefully review the above point on notability. We are serious about this. Really. Do not waste your time and ours by ignoring this point.
  4. Go read and heed WP:YFA for guidance about actually producing a draft.
  5. Submit your new draft.
I know this all seems pretty negative, but believe it or not, we really do want that article if the subject is notable. Good luck! -Arch dude (talk) 18:12, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Note: Creator has now blanked the page and requested deletion and is also now blocked. Eagleash (talk)


Showing CSS in a pageEdit

Hi sir

There is a error in html code please verify the link and verify the table content please do modify at this below link Im saikumar kuncha.

style:"" due to this css properties shown in the table please make a edit of it

Regards Saikumar Kuncha. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:59, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

My Suicide StoryEdit


Does anyone know why the "episode list" appears below the infobox on this page as opposed to fitting into the space to the left of it? Can't figure out how to fix this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hidden Hills Editor (talkcontribs) 15:48, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

You could use the "total_width" parameter in the episode list, but the rendering will still depend on the window width. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Unable to acces Wikipedia on Google ChromeEdit

Another editor here wrote what about this as well, but I believe he was misunderstood. As of yesterday, I can not access Wikipedia from Google Chrome. I get an error message that reads normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Google Chrome tried to connect to this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Google Chrome stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.

You cannot visit right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later.

If there is anything I can do on my side that will address this issue, please let me know. I am using Microsoft Edge right now, but I really would prefer to use Chrome. --PuzzledvegetableIs it teatime already? 18:29, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Hosting a userbox I want to createEdit


I want to create a new userbox to place on my userpage, but because I want to experiment with it I want to host it somewhere under my own username, and not at Template:XXX etc. How do I do this?

I was thinking something like User:ElshadK/Templates but don't know what to put after that.

Thanks for the help ElshadK (talk)

@ElshadK: Just pick any name starting with User:ElshadK/, e.g. User:ElshadK/Userboxes/Widgets if the box is about widgets and you may make other userboxes later. You can transclude it with the full page name like {{User:ElshadK/Userboxes/Widgets}}. It works the same for any name. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:44, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Saturday Night Football November 23Edit

What No Saturday Night Football Game November 23. (talk) 20:04, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

We have no control over the football schedule. RudolfRed (talk) 20:18, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Nina TurnerEdit

Hello: I added a mdy date tag to the article on Nina Turner and fixed all the citation dates to agree. They appear correctly within the text editor but are displaying in dmy format on the page after I "Publish Changes". How can I remedy this? Thanks. Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:12, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

The tag which you added was {{use dmy dates|date=November 2019}}, not {{use mdy dates|date=November 2019}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:18, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Just figured it out!! Thanks. I did not realize that controlled how the dates were displayed. Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:26, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
It is explained at Template:Use dmy dates#Auto-formatting citation template dates. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:41, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

November 15Edit

Unable to check references due to paywallEdit

Some references hit a paywall. Do Wikipedia editors get any special access to the articles behind paywalls?

Please ping me when replying.

Srid🍁 01:15, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Sridc: You can ask at WP:RX for an editor with access to check on it for you. RudolfRed (talk) 01:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Sridc there is WP:Free English newspaper sources and WP:Library. Also check your local library system, many offer free access to major publications and databases. Schazjmd (talk) 01:42, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Start page.Edit

Quick question (because I couldn't find it anywhere else, or in my preferences.) How do I set my start page? dibbydib 💬/ 01:32, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Dibbydib: What do you mean by start page? If you mean the page your browser starts on when you open it then it depends on the browser and is unrelated to Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:35, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Thank you :D dibbydib 💬/ 01:36, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
You can ask browser questions at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing but name the browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:12, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Sabotaged WIki PageEdit

On the page Telecommunications engineering someone has written 'microwaving kids is fun' on the first picture on the right, please fix someone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:18, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

  Done. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 02:20, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Constant edit conflictsEdit

So it seems, every time I make an edit, even if the last edit was months ago, that when I click "Submit", I get the edit conflict screen. I've disabled any of the functions in Beta and Preferences that might have caused it, and I still get it. Anyone know why? And for that matter, it seems the wiki software will immediately revert the edit in my name so I'll in in the history "PrussianOwl +380", and in the next line "PrussianOwl -380". Thanks, PrussianOwl (talk) 02:39, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Misdirected Notes in Yellow on pagesEdit

Howdy! Sir or Mam, Occasionally I get a Yellow Notice saying that an edit "I" made has been adjusted or corrected. Since I registered my Name on Wikipedia I never have Edited a page. The Day I Registered was because I wanted to correct a page about Morse Code but the page was locked and couldn't be edited. The notices I get don't have my Name they have a IP Address.


are two pages I looked at today but as far as I recall I haven't looked at the page(s) the notices mention.

Thanks for any help You can tell me about.

I haven't logged on - and I don't see any place to put my Email Address at.

Hope this info helps Wikipedia.

P.S. I have no idea what will happen if I press the Publish changes button but it looks like the only way to send this message to You All is to click it. Please correct anything that I cause to happen by clicking that button. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:57, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi It looks as if you share your IP address with other anonymous editors, and Wikipedia has no way to tell which edits are yours and which are made by others. You can safely ignore any messages about edits that you have not made, since they are intended for someone else who uses the same IP address. It is easy to avoid this problem by creating an account so that you get only messages intended for you. Dbfirs 07:04, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Hans Leyers Wiki

FallenM (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2019 (UTC)It seems a waste of time to try and edit this page when Arthur McGill will decide what is and is not acceptable content. The problem with Arthur's judgment is that he allows non-primary, non-secondary reliable sources - or zero sources - to be used in prior edits to the page.

I've posted on the Discussion page twice since early October without response.

It matters because the page includes some nonsense that is defamatory in nature about Leyers, and a university report was issued in August that demonstrates how any material gleaned from the abominable fraud-hoax book "Beneath A Scarlet Sky" - or any person associated with that hoax should not be used directly or indirectly. For instance, the entry uses material from and cites an 'essay' published under the name of Mike Lella on a web site over which some "super fan" has (had) some control and influence. This "essay" written with input from Mike Lella if not by him was published in partial exchange for a "photo op" with the "hero"/protagonist in the novel of "biographical and historical fiction" - a factual disclosure that has meaning and not just "something a mean lawyer insisted on so that the hoax could be published". :)

I've remarked to Arthur that it is reckless and (also) defamatory to allow to stand remarks that are "sourced" from the fraud that is this book. The fraud is on the cusp of being exposed. One major component was the report on Hans Leyers issued by Prof. Gentile of the Jewish Studies dept. at the University of Cologne, which makes quite clear that the author of "Beneath [Contempt]" elected to miscast Leyers ~August 2009.

The 'essay'/article by Mike Lella - son of "hero" - is intended to further promote the hoax. Mike isn't even terribly concerned about the fact that the 'essay' and his other stories and remarks even contradict even what is in the book.

I thought Wiki had strict standards with regard to source material, conflict of interest, and verification? Is that only true depending on the who or what of the Wiki entry?

At any rate, some movement on the Discussion page would be welcome. Sources cited on some items on that page (I included a rough draft of some edits for review by someone who isn't inept).



Mary F.FallenM (talk) 03:55, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@FallenM: hello and Welcome to the English Wikipedia. Since every Wikipedia is a different project with it's own rules, we unfortunately can't help you here. You might want to ask over here in the German language Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:49, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Viktor ShokinEdit

This page will be important in the context of the current impeachment proceedings in the US and will certainly be leveraged for the purposes of information operations. As such I suggest edits recieve a higher level of scrutiny than normal. Apologies if this is the incorrect forum in which to send up a signal flare. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1505:40C9:556B:56D8:AF3C:73AC (talk) 04:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Mr. RobertsEdit

Under the old Poster for Mr. Roberts the information states the move was 123 minutes. This is totally erroneous. I don't know how many minutes it was exactly, but I just watched it tonight on TCM, thinking oh they have the old uncut version because they 123 minutes listed and they have no commercials. This at 123 minutes was the most cut version I have seen yet. The nurses never discovered that the men could see them take showers from the boat with binoculars, there was no letter writing contest, so many other scenes shortened. So the information under the poster is wrong, and a great movie like that deserves accuracy, and a new generation of movie watchers should know it has been edited and edited. I couldn't find where to add that under the Mr.Roberts or Mister Roberts article so if you could let me know or add it yourself I would appreciate it. Thank you04:26, 15 November 2019 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmarielloyd (talkcontribs)

IMDb says 123, TCM and the American Film Institute[5] say 120-121, 123 or 126, and Variety[6] goes with 120, so I will note the lack of agreement in the article. However, I'm not seeing anything like the great discrepancy you are claiming. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:22, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Also, the proper place to ask questions like this is either the talk page of the article or the entertainment reference desk. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:12, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Tool for cleaning up after a page move?Edit

List of Major League Baseball players to hit for the cycle should read List of Major League Baseball players who hit for the cycle, but I don't want to deal with all the articles that link to it. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:11, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

How to find a page that is in two specific categoriesEdit

Hi, I'd like to know a way to find pages of people born in the 1800s and died in the 2000s, for no other reason than interest. Is there a way to find a list of these pages, e.g. pages in both Category: 1899 births and Category: 2001 deaths? Or is there a different/easier way of doing this?  Nixinova TC   07:30, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Nixinova: Yes, the PetScan tool can do this. here is your sample query. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Using Dispute Resolution and possible mistakeEdit

I hope this is the right place to post this kind of question. I recently requested existence in resolving a dispute with another editor (User:Dalhoa) due to an dispute that we were unable to resolve. I informed them (both in the relevant page's Talk page and on their own Talk page, but did not post the DRN (Dispute Resolution Notice) template on their page until after I had made the request because I had not noticed the template or the instructions regarding it until then (once I noticed, I posted it on their Talk page). Is my failure to post the notice before making the request likely to cause me to be sanctioned in some way, or perhaps to impede the progress of the request? And if not how long do such requests normally take to be answered. Here is the link to my noticeboard post: Any help is appreciated. Thank you.Skllagyook (talk) 08:02, 15 November 2019 (UTC)