July 2020Edit

  Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Levivich. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing.

Please stop accusing me of being a sock/returned banned editor/clean start/etc., as you most recently did here, including insinuations, implications, snide remarks, and so forth. I previously asked you to refrain from this here, just a few minutes ago. Levivich[dubiousdiscuss] 15:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

BMK, please don't engage in socking innuendo about editors who are otherwise in good standing. There is only one venue to pursue that claim, which is WP:SPI. El_C 15:59, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Noted. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:04, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The thread is Beyond My Ken. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:22, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice, and for confirming my impression of you. It's always good to know when one has hit it on the nose. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Antonyo AwardsEdit

 On 26 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Antonyo Awards, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Antonyo Awards—a riff on the Tony Awards—were instituted in 2020 to celebrate excellence in Black theater? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Antonyo Awards. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Antonyo Awards), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Thanks for helping out! Drmies (talk) 18:53, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Small noteEdit

Hello Beyond My Ken! I just wanted to say my thoughts on your reversal of the edits by Malik Honor on East Harlem. He seemed to take it well which is good, and understands the importance of using sources for everything. I do want to say though, I don't think reversing a whole group of edits because some of them are unsourced is very productive. Many of those added valuable info that I / another editor could have found sources for, but now it is harder to do that because they have been completely undone. Additionally, it could potentially annoy or confuse new editors (even though that did not happen in this case).

So yeah, I hope this doesn't come off as too picky, but I just think it is important to make the climate better for new editors & allow people to help out by adding new info. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 14:20, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Absolutely not. See WP:ONUS. Beyond My Ken (talk) 15:24, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Ok yeah that's true, but if there's another reason for deleting aside from sources then you could say that in your edit summary. Otherwise it just comes across like you were deleting it simply for being unsourced (which is what I had thought). The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

over the topEdit

BMK, I really think that was too vitriolic and added nothing constructive to the situation. I was closing as you added this. I think your comments about MONGO are just plain uncalled for. I wish you would remove them. It's up to you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:09, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

OK, I'll remove it, but you really should also ask MONGO to strike his comment regarding Sn. being site banned, which was the "over the top" comment I was responding to. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:42, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 Done Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. And don't think me dismissive of your concerns about MONGO. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:05, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Got it, thank you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:06, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Lotfi A. ZadehEdit

Why would you insist on leaving accessdate=2014 in the article? Help:Citation Style 1#Access date says access-date: The full date when the content pointed to by url was last verified to support the text in the article, and the fuzzy systems link was added on 18 October 2014. Before, and again now, the citation is throwing an easily-fixed error. kennethaw88talk 19:56, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:AGF. The focus of my edit was your changing all the "<br>"s to "<br/>"s". Don't do that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining why you reverted. But I will not stop correcting them. Per Help:Line-break_handling#<br_/>_or_<br>, Please correct invalid occurrences – such as </br>, < br>, or </ br> – to <br /> as you encounter them, though preferably as a part of a more substantive edit. I use a syntax highlighter, and they ruin the page, but it does not hurt the page to close the tag. I will of course not make an edit solely to correct them, only incidentally along with other edits. kennethaw88talk 04:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Help is not policy, and when you make these changes you're just cluttering up people's watchlists with trivial and unnecessary edits that needn't have been made. When I come across them, I will continue to revert them. In short, don't fix it if it ain't broke. Beyond My Ken (talk)
If I may intrude, because I stumbled on one of this, the help page is pretty clear (the uncommon form <br > can break several of the available syntax highlighters for wikicode in the editing view (mis-highlighting all text in the page after the occurrence of that tag), and so should be avoided). It clearly breaks something and should be avoided. kennethaw88 are within their rights and are thoroughly following a guide of good practices. If you think this is not the way to go, I suggest bringing the matter to a greater audience to declare a clear consensus (if there isn't one already); without this, I foresee a never ending conflict. Best regards, CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 19:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)