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August 20Edit

Request to Edit ArticleEdit

Hi!

I am one of the administrators of Holy Angels' College (Bulacan), and I would like to seek help in editing the Heading for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Angels%27_Academy, it should be named as Holy Angels' College (Bulacan). The school is presently known by this name since it was re-incorporated in 2001.

Thank you

Jeffrey Ian G. Esperanza System Administrator Holy Angels' College (Bulacan) Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esperanzaji (talkcontribs) 01:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Esperanzaji: There have been major changes to the article in the last few hours made by an anonymous editor. The changes were unsourced and at least partly unencyclopedic and may well be removed or greatly reduced. If this was you, please do not do this. Please read both WP:COI and WP:PAID (this is mandatory) and make the necessary disclosures. Please do not edit the article directly but make edit requests via the article talk page. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Eagleash (talk) 02:52, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Correct a locked articleEdit

Articles are locked to “prevent vandalism” yet they are factually incorrect. How can someone request to get these articles corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.108.102 (talk) 03:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Via edit requests - FlightTime (open channel) 03:09, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) (x2) You can request edits via the article talk page. To do this you use a template which varies depending on the level of protection. Without knowing the name of the page you are asking about, you use one of: Template:Edit extended-protected, Template:Edit template-protected or Template:Edit fully-protected. See those pages for full instructions. It is vital that you provide clear details of the change you wish to see in the form, change 'X' (current content) to 'Y' (your proposed changes) and that you provide sources to corroborate. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 03:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Request correction on article titled-“Facism”Edit

Wikipedia article on facism cites “radical right-wing authoritarian....” in the first sentence. However, websters dictionary has the correct definition of facism-“severe social and economic regiment and also forcible suppression of opposition.” The defintion of facism should be exactly as cited in websters dictionary and should not incorrectly label facism as right wing. when those two traits of economic regiment and suppression of opposition are characteristics of the left-wing. It is innacurate and clearly politically biased to label facism “right-wing”. It is exclusively of the left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.108.102 (talk) 03:17, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

This has been extensively discussed in the past. See the article talk page for more information. Eagleash (talk) 03:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not Websters. Other dictionaries give more nuanced definitions. Dbfirs 10:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

helloEdit

All the articles I have written have been hidden from Google search engines. what is the reason Akram.altameemi (talk) 09:06, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Akram.altameemi: Articles are not indexed by search engines for 90 days or until they have been reviewed. You have asked similar questions on previous occasions and it has been pointed out to you that articles you have written do not meet guidelines. Advice has been given to help you reach the standards required but this has not happened. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You have made all the information and resources available in all articles. All the articles appeared on Google and days later disappeared. There was nothing about your belief that there were articles about football players.Akram.altameemi (talk) 09:18, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You have written at least three articles about football players. The Iraq Premier League is not a fully professional league per Wikipedia's criteria; see WP:FPL. Requests for sources that the players have made appearances in top-tier FIFA-sanctioned internationals have not been answered satisfactorily. The pages therefore may not pass WP:NFOOTY and may be liable to deletion. When an article is tagged at it automatically reviews it. If search engines immediately index it that may not appear later if the pages are subsequently unreviewed if they are not suitable for mainspace. Eagleash (talk) 09:33, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

EditingLockedEditEdit

I have come across an article that I consider to be biased. I was about to edit it, but editing is locked. I have gone on to the talk: for that article and found others feel the same, but the article has not been edited to be more factual. What to do? TIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by WildLovelyOne (talkcontribs) 10:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@WildLovelyOne: please could you direct us to the article in question? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:00, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
The general answer is in a thread above entitled #Correct a locked article. --Tkynerd (talk) 11:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikilinking citiesEdit

Hi there. I was copyediting an article and I came across a list of cities that were not wikilinked. To link them all might not agree with MOS:SEAOFBLUE, so I was wondering what others thought? Quote in question:’they would then be distributed to cities like Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Tampa, Nashville, Atlanta, Greensboro, and New York City.’ Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:55, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

MOS:OL states that cities generally shouldn’t be linked, but in the context, I think it would be useful for the reader to see the locations of each of the cities. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 10:58, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

"Generally" means in most situations but not all. If you believe the names are better linked then ignore the guideline and do so. If someone reverts you, then you should discuss why the names should be linked/or remain unlinked.– Ammarpad (talk) 15:13, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Banque du Caire page updates reversalEdit

Dear Wikipedia Team (Yunshui)

My Name id Hesham Daabes, Chief Information Officer (CIO) of Banque du Caire, Cairo, Egypt. The bank's Marketing, Customer Relations and Technology teams are trying to edit/update the current Bank's profile page on Wikipedia with no success. In every update instance, the changes are rejected and reverted back to the original information which is quite outdated and completely irrelevant to the bank. It is unclear to us "Why" this is the case and we have no luck connecting with your support teams to understand the issue. I hereby urge you to consider my request in allowing us changing the Bank's profile on Wikipedia. Please let me know if our attempts are done wrongly by any means and/or provide us with some guidance on how we can achieve this task successfully. The issue is now fairly sensitive to our organisation and critical to our brand image and authenticity of our profile. I am happy to hear back any suggestions.

Appreciate you prompt response to my request.

Best Regards Hesham Daabes Chief Information Officer Banque du Caire HQ Nasr City, Cairo Egypt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daabesh (talkcontribs) 16:20, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

You are advised to read both WP:COI and WP:PAID. It is strongly encouraged that editors with a conflict of intrest do not edit articles connected to themselves, instead posting edit requests on the article's talk page. This is because wikipedia exists to record what reliable sources say about a topic, which typically conflicts with what a marketing department would say about a topic. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 18:19, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@Daabesh: I put some brief "welcome" information on your talk page. You made some very common mistakes as a first-time user because you were not familiar with some Wikipedia basics. Please take some time to look this material over, and if you then have questions, come back here. Your edits were reverted because you removed referenced material and the references, and your new material appeared to be promotional in nature. No harme done: new editor are expected to make mistakes. As OxonAlex said, you must also comply with the terms of service of this web site that apply to paid users. Please don't take this the wrong way. If there are errors in the article or new information for the article, we want to know. put suggestion for edits on the article's talk page. It is imperative that you supply references, or your suggested changes cannot be made. -Arch dude (talk) 03:04, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Possible edit-conflict / overwrite?Edit

I was editing the page for the Dresden Files novel Skin Game. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_Game_(The_Dresden_Files)

When I clicked to Save my edits, I got a notice of an edit-conflict, where someone else had edited while I was editing, warning me to merge the edits; this is deeper into the bowels of wiki-edits than I'm comfortable doing! I wasn't even clear what the other edits are/were.

What I meant to do -- what I tried to do -- was copy my edits off to a local clipboard, Cancel out of editing, then come back in a few minutes and re-do them.

But when I went to look... behold! My edits were in place. Even though I clicked "Cancel." And when I "View History" -- mine was the only entry for days.

I have no idea how to find that other change, or (re-)implement it, or... well, fix it. Or did it automagically fix -- no thanks to me! -- and I'm obsessing about nothing? 2601:645:501:DB74:5438:AB54:3018:9462 (talk) 17:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that kind of edit conflict, where your edits are accepted but you get an edit-conflict message anyway, has become fairly common recently – maybe the last two months. I've never seen a convincing explanation of what causes it, or of how to avoid it. Maproom (talk) 17:37, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
I've had this happen when I've accidentally pressed "save changed" twice, and the server thought I was trying to edit conflict myself. That's the only explanation I've seen. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 18:31, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Brief about the wordEdit

I want to describe the superlative form of attorney which is attornist which means (Attorney in a Professional way) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Attornist (talkcontribs) 21:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Attornist: That may not be a good fit for Wikipedia, since this is an encyclopedia. Look at the dictionary project instead: [1] RudolfRed (talk) 21:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
@Attornist: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. -Arch dude (talk) 02:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Attornist: Not even Wiktionary will accept protologisms unless they have been used in independent sources spanning at least a year. Wiktionary does have Wiktionary:Appendix:List of protologisms where you could add the word if you think it will start to be used in WP:Reliable sources other than your own website and its advertising, but this is definitely not the place to advertise your company. Dbfirs 06:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Are redundant links permissible if the first is piped?Edit

It doesn't seem to be covered in the Manual of Style section on redundant links (no offense to whoever wrote it), so please let me know.--Thylacine24 (talk) 22:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Thylacine24:This is a matter of editorial judgement. If in your opinion the benefit to the typical reader of the extra link outweighs the clutter of overlinking, Then link. Like all other such edits, someone else may disagree and revert, so no harm. -Arch dude (talk) 02:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Arch dude: This is the page that led me to ask this, which contains two links for "giant panda", the first labeled "Pandah", in the sentence directly before the second. Could you please let me know your opinion on this particular example?--Thylacine24 (talk) 11:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Thylacine24: I'd get rid of the wikilink in the quote, per MOS:LWQ. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 13:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Finnusertop: Thanks for telling me; I've removed the link.--Thylacine24 (talk) 18:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


August 21Edit

Uploading images to wikipediaEdit

Hi there,

Could you please assist with uploading images to a wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanishalafitani (talkcontribs) 01:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Tanishalafitani: First, get the image file of the picture onto your computer. If you are the photographer who took the picture, then you own the copyright and you may upload it and license it to us. If you do not own the copyright then you cannot upload it (with very few exceptions). To upload, click on the "upload file" link in the left-hand column of this or any other page, and follow the instructions. Come back here with a specific question if you have difficulties at any point in the process. -Arch dude (talk) 02:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
That link provides a further link to the Commons upload wizard at Commons:Special:UploadWizard. If you own the copyright, then it is usually best to upload an image to Commons and link to it there, rather than directly to Wikipedia. Dbfirs 13:29, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Page deletionEdit

Hi there, I want to know why my page production, cost and pricing was deleted? I chose this topic from the list of Most Wanted Articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talkcontribs) 04:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@Omer Canon: Your page has not been deleted it is at Draft:Production, costs, and pricing. What was deleted was the redirect created when you moved the content from article space to draft. A redirect from mainspace to draft cannot exist. The red link in your contributions gives a link to the reason. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 04:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, one more thing... so this means that my page is still pending for review right? if not then how should I move this for review and how should I get this published? Omer Canon (talk) 05:34, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes, there is an AfC review notice in place. Eagleash (talk) 05:40, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


@Eagleash For sure I will replace those references. After replacing them what should I do to get it published? Here I mean to say that which indication will let the editor know that this is ready to be reviewed and published? Thanks for your help again Omer Canon (talk) 08:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omer Canon (talkcontribs) 06:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Please, any update?

Omer Canon (talk) 09:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

As it says in the review box on your draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,633 pending submissions waiting for review." If you have the draft on your watch list you will see there when it is updated. Usually a reviewer will also give feedback on your user talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:01, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

How to update company logo on company pageEdit

Hello,

The logo for the company, '3D Repo' needs to be updated on the company page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Repo

The updated logo image can be found here: https://3drepo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/White-on-Blue-High-Res-Logo.png

The company notes the official logo on this page: https://3drepo.com/about/?preview_id=9164&preview_nonce=0f50326f9f&_thumbnail_id=-1&preview=true

I cannot upload the image myself as I am a new user to Wikipedia.

How can I update the logo image?

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holygeorge8 (talkcontribs) 13:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that the previous logo had its copyright released, so I've uploaded a low-resolution image of the new logo direct to Wikipedia under a Fair use justification. I assume that the company does not wish the logo to be free to use by rivals as Drjozefdobos (the company founder who designed the logo?) claimed when uploading the previous versions to Commons. The new logo should now show in the article and may not be used elsewhere. Google will catch up when their crawlers next find the article. Dbfirs 14:28, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Dbfirs: Neither the new logo nor the old one seems likely to be elegible to copyright per commons:Commons:Threshold of originality. Therefore, it can (should?) be transferred to Commons with the commons:Template:PD-textlogo template. (Also, even it if was copyrighted, if someone with the authority to release a CC-BY-SA uploaded it to Commons, the license cannot be revoked.) TigraanClick here to contact me 15:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
I appreciate that American copyright and trade mark rules are less rigorous than those in the UK, but I'm British, and so is the company, so I was following British rules to be on the safe side. The earlier logos were more complex, so if I was founder and designer, I wouldn't want them used by rivals. Thanks for the advice. I agree that the current logo is too simple for copyright. Dbfirs 16:06, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
I wouldn't want [my logos] used by rivals - yet another nitpick: I think you are confusing copyright ("don't distribute my creative work without authorization"), which is a problem for us on Wikipedia as we distribute media files, with trademark ("don't use a visual identity similar to mine"), which is not (we are not pretending the logo to be ours, and we are not in the business of selling stuff related to their company). TigraanClick here to contact me 08:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

edits got rejectedEdit

I just updated the wikipedia page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Allen to include more details about his life and his work, and the edits got rejected by clcstudent with a message that they "did not appear constructive". My edits were largely bringing the wikipedia page in line with publically available information about his life, adding substantial information and references and making it consistent with the german wikipedia page about him. My edits got fully reverted to the old version - while I think the new version is (was) considerable better. Can I just "undo" the revert? Or do the edits need to be approved by someone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwstauk (talkcontribs) 17:08, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

I suggest that you ask the editor who reverted your changes why he considered them unconstructive; it isn't obvious to me why he thought so, because you did provide references. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Edits do not usually need to be "approved" but if someone undoes them, as in this case, the next step is to discuss on the article's talk page, or the talk page of the user who reverted, and have a discussion about why you think the content should be added. (I will say as an aside here that the use of rollback to revert the edits does not seem appropriate.) CrowCaw 17:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • thanks for the help. I can't reply directly to User:CLCStudent, because their talk page is protected, so will follow the advice to discuss on the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pwstauk (talkcontribs) 17:32, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Pwstauk: You are a new editor whose only edits were to a single article, and those edits included removal of a reference and addition of unreferenced material. This is a pattern that very frequently signals promotional editing, and those brave and overworked souls on the "recent changes patrol" often revert them out of hand (being far too overworked to perform a detailed analysis) and depend on the WP:BRD process to resolve any resulting problem. In this case, The substance of your edits looks very good. However, Wikipedia does require that you cite reliable sources. If you have problems with adding your sources, look at Wikipedia:referencing for beginners, and then come back here if you need further help. And please do not give up, we need your help. -Arch dude (talk) 17:37, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
  • @Arch dude: - I can't see any sign of a ref being removed. Some text (with its supporting ref) was moved from one place to another, but which ref do you think was removed? - David Biddulph (talk) 17:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

EDITING MY OWN PAGEEdit

How do i edit a page that does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talkcontribs) 22:20, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Bill cage I'm not sure what you are referring to; do you mean your user talk page? 331dot (talk) 22:24, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
@Bill cage: I added some basic information on your talk page. Please do not attempt to create an article about a non-notable subject: that just leads to frustration. -Arch dude (talk) 22:27, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

@331dot never mind. i was trying to ask how to create my own article, but i ended being an idiot and asking it in a very stupid way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talkcontribs) 17:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Emmett TillEdit

Hello,

I am a UCSC student and I recently worked on a research paper where the topic was of my choosing, I chose to write about Emmett Till. I was very surprised (as much surprised as America's current AND PAST politics continue to surprise me - not) to find the OBVIOUS misinformation regarding Emmett Till's murder. He was NOT lynched. I'll say it one more time, HE WAS NOT LYNCHED. This FOURTEEN YEAR OLD BOY was kidnapped from his family's home, BRUTALLY TORTURED, BEATEN, HIS EYES WERE GOUGED OUT, HE WAS NAKED, HE WAS SHOT, AND THE HE WAS HOG TIED WITH WIRE BEFORE BEING THROWN IN A RIVER. It is INCREDIBLY disheartening that people who google search his name will be met with blatant LIES and MISINFORMATION. Let us be truthful when describing the injustices of AMERICA'S ARROGANT AND RAMPANT WHITE SUPREMACY. DO NOT ALTER FACTS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayegibs (talkcontribs) 23:09, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Ayegibs, that's a discussion for that articles talk page (which I see you've already posted the same thing to). Lynching a type of murder. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Chris BeardeEdit

I have editor permissions, but couldn't see how to edit or link the banner box at the top of this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Bearde

Contact me for a copy if this isn't good enough

Attached - a photo of Chris Bearde taken in Jan 19673 - which may add to the appeal of that page. (He was a family friend of my father in the sixties) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcoop (talkcontribs) 23:54, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Done – Thjarkur (talk) 23:59, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


August 22Edit

REPLYING TO ANSWERSEdit

I asked a question on here earlier, and someone said they did'nt understand what i was asking. I tried to reply to explain it to them, but i coud'nt figure how to do it. i probably seem very stupid right now, but this is literraly my first day as a user, so i still have basically no idea how to do anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talkcontribs) 01:42, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Bill cage: there is an [Edit] link next to each section header. Click on that, add you answer at the bottom the edit box and hit save. 2001:16B8:507B:6F00:F5EE:863:CD02:6EA3 (talk) 04:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hello Bill cage, welcome to Wikipedia. If you would like help getting started on Wikipedia and getting to know what it is all about, please take the Tutorial. This should help you get to grips with what Wikipedia is about and tell you how you can start editing and participating in the community. If you would like help editing please see This guide on editing. At first, I recommend you try small edits on minor pages, which you can find by clicking the ‘Random article’ button to the left of this page. I wouldn’t recommend you create an article at first, it takes plenty of time and experience to do that. I hope that helps, if you have anymore questions, please do ask. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@willbb234 thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talkcontribs) 17:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Allegations of infidelityEdit

I was looking at the articles on Seth Avett and on The Avett Brothers. In reading some stories online about them, I came across this allegation in Radar Online (https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/06/jennifer-carpenter-affair-avett-brothers-drummer/) that Seth's alleged cheating on his first wife with the woman who is now his second wife was, again allegedly, a factor in the departure of the drummer in December 2012. The date in this report of the beginning of Avett's relationship with his now second wife (late 2012) conflicts with the date in the Wikipedia article (2013), and the article on the Avett Brothers fails to mention this as a factor in its description of the drummer's departure. To be clear, I'm just a music fan; I have no desire to include sensative personal matters like this in an article, except when they seem relevant to the content, which in this case they arguably do. I'm posting here for guidance instead of the article talk pages because I'm trying to be as discrete as possible in the event that this information has no place in the article (due to reliability of the sourcing, relevance, etc.). My other concern, however, is that I hate for articles to turn into hagiography, where all negative information about the subject is elided even when relevant — and it seems to me if it was a factor in the drummer's departure, it's relevant. I also resent the wrong date being given in the Seth Avett article if it's incorrect.

Advice?

The matter you are bringing up is important and relevant, so I would add it on the talk page. Firstly, review the article on the Huffington Post that is the current source (source No. 8). Is it more reliable than the Radar Online? See WP:RS for help. If it is more reliable, leave the text how it is and discuss the matter on the talk page. If it is less reliable, Be Bold and change it to what the Radar Online says. If someone reverts you, talk to them on the talk page about it and take it from there. If you are not sure of the reliability of the sources, or think they are equal, don’t change anything, just discuss on the talk page and put forward your points. Apologies I wasn’t more specific or couldn’t properly answer your question - I couldn’t open either source for some strange reason. Anyway, I hope that helps, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this:  , but do not sign in articles.
@Willbb234: I appreciate the advice! Thanks so much! Engelhardt (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

changing tilteEdit

Hi, I am trying to fix the tile of "kakaobank" page to kakaobank from current "KakaoBank" as the front is correctly written form. It would be great if anyone can help me the method. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil.lee2180 (talkcontribs) 07:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Phil.lee2180. To do this, you must have a Reliable source showing the proposed change. Once you have that, the best option is to discuss it on the Talk page of the article, and see if others agree that it should be changed. To change the title of an article, we can move a page but this requires Autoconfirned rights, which you don’t currently have. If you are in anyway associated with the company, please see WP:COI and we strongly recommend you don’t edit the article in question, please discuss it with others. If you are being paid to edit you must disclose this. I hope that helps, if you have anymore questions, please do ask. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 07:42, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this:  , but do not sign in articles.
The references in the article mainly use the capitalised version, so Wikipedia should do the same according to WP:Commonname. The uncapitalised version seems to be the trademark of Kakao Bank, not its official name, but if you can find WP:Reliable sources that say something different, then please mention them here or add them to the article. Dbfirs 10:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Information addition to siteEdit

My name is Tom Osborne and I am inquiring if my life’s accomplishments are sufficient to be list added to the ‘List of Notable People’ from the State of WV. I was born and raised in Morgantown, WV, son of a coal miner and glass factory worker. I am an inventor with design and utility patents and a TV personality on ABC’s hit reality show, Shark Tank. I am a former Vice President of Food Safety and Regulatory Affairs for Tyson Foods, the largest US based protein companies with 28-years experience...retiring in 2017 to assume the role of President and Chief Operations Officer of BioWALL, a Sabre Company, the company called upon by the US government to decontaminate the US Capitol following the 2001 biological terrorism attacks of weaponized ANTHRAX. BioWALL is a global authority on mitigating biological and chemical threats, sole company contracted by the US Department of Defense with proven tactical deployment methods and technical capabilities to eliminate viral and bacterial bio-threats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CCIBBInventor (talkcontribs) 10:32, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@CCIBBInventor: You seem to have had an impressive career; I would note, however, that the requirement for being added to the list you speak of is that a Wikipedia article about you would need to exist. To merit a Wikipedia article, you would need to have been extensively written about in independent reliable sources that show how you meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable person. If you review the criteria and truly feel you meet it in some way, it is strongly advised that you not attempt to write about yourself, please see the autobiography policy. You could visit Requested Articles to request that others write about you(if proper sources exist), though it will likely not be done quickly due to the significant backlog there. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the very fast response. There are publications, articles and other media specific to me and the achievements I’ve made that will qualify. How do I send those articles to you? CCIBBInventor (talk) 10:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@CCIBBInventor:Note that I moved your comment from the talk page of this page, which is only for discussing the operation of this page. Replies should be made on this page. You should not "send" anything to me personally; you may visit Requested Articles and follow the process there to make a request that others write about you. As I indicated, please understand that it may not be done quickly. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

A minor edit of the title of a n articleEdit

Hello everyone. I made an article about a person, but I created that with the last name written in small letters.

Is there a way to correct that?

Mostafa_Heravi princilll (talk) 13:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I've moved it for you, but you could have moved it yourself as your account is auto-confirmed. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:54, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a lot David, it's been a while I haven't been participating in Wikipedia and I was afraid to make another mistake. I've even forgotten to sign my posts..! Thank you, anyway :) princilll (talk) 13:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Please sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this:  , but do not sign in articles. Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 13:21, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

/* Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Gracie the English Springer Spaniel */Edit

/* Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Gracie the English Springer Spaniel */ I don't want it to be deleted please help me restore it i just want it to be accepted — Preceding unsigned comment added by SerdoCowmoo (talkcontribs) 13:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

SerdoCowmoo As it is now, your draft has no chance of being accepted. I don't mean to be frank, but I must tell you the truth. Wikipedia has articles about subjects shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources to meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. Your draft is sourced to nothing at all and does not indicate how this dog is notable. Having 5,000 YouTube subscribers is not relevant to notability as defined by Wikipedia(it's also not a large number relatively speaking); they could have 50 subscribers or 5 billion subscribers; if no independent reliable sources write about this subject, it does not merit an article on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
SerdoCowmoo, creating a nonsense draft and asking for it to be reviewed just wastes reviewers' time and does not help your cause. Dbfirs 14:10, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Wording change at PhiladelphiaEdit

I disagree with this edit, because I think the word coterminous is a standard word that readers generally would understand, but I'm not sure what our standards are on this. (I saw the change simply because the article is on my watchlist.) I checked the MOS but didn't see anything helpful there, and the Geography Wikiproject doesn't appear to have its own MOS. I considered being bold and reverting the change with a polite edit summary, but I haven't edited that much in a long while, and I don't want to run afoul of changing rules, guidelines and perceptions in the community here. Any advice? --Tkynerd (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

This might just be me, but I've never heard the word coterminous before, and it could be argued to fall under MOS:JARGON. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 14:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I do not believe this is a word that our average reader will be familiar with. GMGtalk 15:00, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I've heard of the word(though I don't think it is a common term even in the US), but it is important to remember that Wikipedia has a global audience and the terminology needs to be accessible to all. 331dot (talk) 15:01, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm fine with acceding to that. I do, however, also think that the alternate wording is incorrect or at best misleading, so I'm going to tweak it. Thanks for the responses. --Tkynerd (talk) 15:03, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
User:Tkynerd, you could use coterminous followed by a paranthetical explanation, which is one option in MOS:JARGON. TSventon (talk) 15:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
TSventon, I should have thought of that! Thanks for the suggestion. But I tweaked the wording already, and I think I'm satisfied. :-) --Tkynerd (talk) 15:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@Tkynerd: Thanks for your work. In general, when an editor disagrees with you, you should discuss it with that editor, usually on the article's talk page. This is called bold-revert-discuss: see WP:BRD. There should be no hard feelings either way: you are both trying to improve Wikipedia: see WP:AGF. If the two editors cannot agree, then go to WP:DISPUTE. -Arch dude (talk) 18:07, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Arch dude! If I had decided that I wanted to fight for keeping the word coterminous, I would have engaged the other editor in a conversation. In this case, I wanted to get a bit of the community's feeling about the word itself before I decided what to do, so I brought the question here. I decided to essentially let the changed wording stand, with a couple of tweaks because I found the changed wording confusing. I didn't think that was a reason to get the attention of the other editor, but I'll be happy to discuss this with them if they decide to engage with me. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. --Tkynerd (talk) 07:48, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

MAKING DIFFRENT SECTIONSEdit

I plan on starting to write articles very soon, but one thing i don't know how to do is splitting it in diffrent sections and naming those sections. if i'm confusing anyone, well i don't really know the correct term yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill cage (talkcontribs) 17:17, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Bill cage: You make new sections within articles by adding the section title (without all caps please) between 2 groups of 2 equals signs. (E.g. == Smith's early life ==). Subsections can be made by groups of 3, then 4 equals signs. Click on 'edit source' at the top of this section to see an example. Please study the links left at your talk page. A good deal of the information you will need is contained within them. (Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 17:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@Bill cage: As mentioned before, I wouldn’t recommend creating an article this quickly. Of course, it is your decision but it is more likely it will get deleted with less experience. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:33, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
@Bill cage: you can practice by adding section to your user page, or by creating a "sandbox" page. You can try sections, subsections, pictures, etc. Feel free to copy and paste from existing pages to give yourself a place to start. Since we already have almost 6 million articles, you may discover that the stuff you wish to add to Wikipedia will fit well into an existing article. That's a good way to get started. -Arch dude (talk) 17:59, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia hiringEdit

I need to know as I want to be the admin but not sure if there are any admin jobs and how much do admins get paid per hour — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.180.90 (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

This is a volunteer project; editors are not paid by Wikipedia, and neither are administrators. We're all here because we want to build this encyclopedia for the benefit of humanity, not to get paid. 331dot (talk) 18:32, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe you should do some research on what it means to be an admin at Wikipedia:Administrators. †dismas†|(talk) 18:34, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
More broadly, you should read up on any company before attempting to apply for a position at it. Matt Deres (talk) 20:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Citing a TV showEdit

Can a TV show be cited for say the plot of the show? For example, citing the link to the show on a website such as BBC iplayer? Is there a specifc template for this? Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 22:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Plots don't need specific citations, as the plot can be confirmed by viewing the program. 331dot (talk) 22:47, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
...except on points of controversy (here's a well-known example). TigraanClick here to contact me 08:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
For future reference, you can use Template:Cite AV media and its associated templates to cite content from a TV or radio show, podcast, CD / album, etc. Eagleash (talk) 03:11, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

August 23Edit

Family of Catherine, Duchess of CambridgeEdit

Ref 122 is in the red and I cannot fix it up on this device . Please fix if you can Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

  Fixed Accessdate wrong: It's not 28 August till next week! Eagleash (talk) 03:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

How long does it take to approve a new page?Edit

Hi there, I just created a new page for Asian Universities Alliance, I'm wondering how long will it take and when will I know that it has been approved? Thanks!! Polo9591 (talk) 05:52, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. You created the article in mainspace, not a WP:DRAFT that needs to be approved. Now whether someone will come along and nominate it for deletion is another story. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:36, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
The page is awaiting review. There are nearly 5,500 pages in the same situation as of today. Approximately 1700 pages have been reviewed this week but there is not really a set order. A reviewer can propose deletion if they think it is necessary or request improvements. After 90 days, if the page has not been reviewed it should be automatically be indexed by search engines. Eagleash (talk) 11:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Language boxes/userpage boxesEdit

Hello. I was wondering how exactly to add a userpage language box? Thanks, MayodKOR (talk) 06:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

MayodKOR See Wikipedia:Babel. Decide what level of a language you have e.g beginner, advanced then copy and paste the userbox for the correct language and level and paste it on your user page. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
@Willbb234: Thanks! Do you know how to put userboxes in a collapsible box? MayodKOR (talk) 08:46, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
@Willbb234:, Wikipedia:Userboxes has a section on this Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

mode of conductEdit

Hello everyone, I am looking for some advice on how to behave on the Wikipedia, because I certainly do not understand the following:
May I call a user that trolls me on my own talk page a troll? I have asked time and time again to please stop bothering me and stop vandalising my talk page.
--2019OutlaweD (talk) 08:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, 2019OutlaweD. For general behaviour in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Civility. In regards to a case where someone is vandalising or trolling you, do not Bite them - that is what they’re looking for. Ignore them to the best of your ability and they will soon lose interest. If they persist for too long, then it is probably best to take it to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and report them there. You might want to warn them on their own talk page through a Twinkle message. I hope that helps, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Could you direct me to the user in question? Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 08:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Het Willbb, thanks for your response. To be honest the situation is on the Dutch Wikipedia, but since I now have a block, I can't ask for what I should or should not do. The reality is, that I did exactly what you are telling me not to do: Bite! I went to the users talk page and asked, time and time again, to be left alone. A moderator saw asking to be left alone as a problem, which boggles my mind, to be honest. Because if asking to be left alone repeatedly is an issue, then bothering that person for at least as many times (more, actually), is as well. But the mod disagrees. So, I will not ask you to get involved there. It would not be proper behaviour, I think. But thank you for your willingness to take a look. It restores my faith in the Wikipedia a bit :)
I am thinking to make, not a thrascan, but a Trollcan on my talkpage and dump stuff in there that I don't want to know about. Do you think that people will be offended if I name maybe a link, or a folded section that way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2019OutlaweD (talkcontribs) 08:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi 2019OutlaweD. I’m sorry, but I’m not too sure what you’re saying. Your English is really good, especially as a second language (I presume) but I can’t quite understand what you’re asking me? Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 11:09, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
2019OutlaweD, we can't really help you with things that happen on the Dutch Wikipedia, since we're completely seperate communities. If the trolling continues here, you can just delete the messages off your talk page (some other Wikipedia communities don't allow that). Just remember to not feed the trolls. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:30, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I understand the not to feed the trolls part and not to bite part now. Thanks. I was asking how to handle the situation. My idea is to make a spot, maybe a second user page, like an archive, or a spot that I can fold up and that can be opened by clicking on it. I would deposit things I do not like there, was my thought. I was thinking to jokingly call it Trollcan, instead of thrashcan. That is all.
The original question was: "Is it seen as offensive to call a person a troll when that person is, in fact, trolling"?
Because I am getting the impression that this is the cause for the block.
@Willbb234: Thanks for the compliment, by the way. It is my second language. My father was an English teacher. I often give him the compliments that people give me. He worked hard for it!
--2019OutlaweD (talk) 11:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I wouldn’t say it is ‘offensive’ as such to call someone a troll, but just not courteous and not a way we communicate here on Wikipedia. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:03, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Changing a titleEdit

Hello,

can someone please help?

I have managed to update the text (which is also in English now) and external reference, but cannot edit the title.

The name of the organisation has changed.

It is now called: CESSDA ERIC (Consortium of European Social Science Data Archives)

https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_European_Social_Science_Data_Archives?veaction=edit

I look forward to hearing how I can update this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtemisElephant9 (talkcontribs) 11:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

ArtemisElephant9, the Norwegian Wikipedia is written in Norwegian so I've reverted your edit there (it was also written as an advertisement). If you want to change a name in the Norwegian Wikipedia, go to no:Wikipedia:Flytteforslag. This help desk is for the English Wikipedia. If you want to add an English article, you can use the WP:Article Wizard. – Thjarkur (talk) 11:12, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

version of the articleEdit

Good afternoon! How do I know which version of the article is being checked? Thank you for your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 11:19, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Please clarify what you are asking. Which article are you referencing, and what do you mean by "version"? If you type in an article title to search for, you will arrive at the current version. 331dot (talk) 11:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

UPD! The situation is as follows: The article has not been published yet, but we have corrected the notes in the draft. More than 40 days have passed - but there is no answer. How do I know that the latest version of the edits has been sent to you for your consideration? We are worried that there is no way to know its status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 12:13, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The current backlog is high, up to 4 months. You are free to change things on your draft. The version that will be reviewed is always the latest one, but the complete page including the previous versions will get moved to mainspace if your draft is approved. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
If you want us to check that the draft has actually been submitted for review, you need to give us a wikilink to the draft. The contribution record for your IP address show no edits other than this question here. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

!UPD It's a link to a draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:WorkFusion,_Inc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.249.83.82 (talk) 13:40, 23 August 2019 (UTC) The last revisions to the article 40 days ago. The last refusal to publish is 2 months ago. Did you get the latest changes for consideration?

Can I display a trimmed Wikimedia imageEdit

I am tempted to use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gopnikslav.jpg to go into Squatting_position#Slav_squat,_rap_squat,_prison_pose_and_jail_pose. But the bottom 35% is taken up by the irrelevant tiled floor which also makes the image longer than necessary. Is it possible to display a trimmed image using display parameters or otherwise ? --Penbat (talk) 12:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Penbat. I'm not sure I'm "cool enough" to know what this is supposed to be depicting, but I've cropped it to a fairly standard 3:4. See File:Gopnikslav (cropped).jpg. GMGtalk 13:10, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Gopnik is a style of anti social attitude and decadence featuring squatting. This isnt the perfect image but the best of a not too good bunch on Wikimedia. This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik#/media/File:%D0%92%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA.jpg is better but unfortunately depicts sitting instead of the more usual squatting. --Penbat (talk) 13:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
We also have {{CSS image crop}} but if the full image does not add value then uploading a cropped image is generally preferred. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:42, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Ehh...No offense PrimeHunter, but c:COM:CROPTOOL is vastly less complicated, and I honestly can't think of any situation where I would recommend someone use CSS image crop instead. GMGtalk 13:49, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

How can I get a copy of a deleted article for improvement?Edit

I recently spent quite a lot of time working on article that was deleted at AfD with closure endorsed at DRV. The article was about a recent court case that has been heard but not yet adjudicated. I wanted to obtain a copy of the article so that I can improve it, and once the decision is handed down, hopefully restore the article as per WP:DELETE. I spoke to the closing admin at DRV and he told me to contact the closing admin for the AfD. The closing admin at the AfD did not respond to my request although they are active elsewhere, so I assume that's not going to happen. Who would I talk to for help? Cosmic Sans (talk) 13:41, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

I know there's a category of admins who will get you deleted articles but I can't find that category right now. Maybe Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion will help? †dismas†|(talk) 14:20, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Of course, I found it 5 seconds later... Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. †dismas†|(talk) 14:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)