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August 5Edit

Leonid BolotineEdit

  Courtesy link: Draft:Leonid Bolotine

I was sent here for help in posting a new page. I am new at this and have fixed what I could figure out, but there is still clearly some material that needs help. Thanks for your assistance!

Hi, in the future please don't paste the entire contents of a page over here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:48, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
The reviewers have asked for more reliable, independent sources that are not sites like Facebook (or here). Sources like the New York Times are good. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:50, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
We require reliable sources for all facts: see WP:RS. We have additional requirements for sources used to establish notability, and this is easy to mess up. see Wikipedia:Common sourcing mistakes (notability). -Arch dude (talk) 02:43, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

References from propaganda articles and events that have no referenceEdit

Hi Wiki, My question is regarding the typical political issues. As we know, often, references are picked up from major new reporting websites to edit a Wikipedia article. Also as we have seen in recent times, even major news publishing businesses have reporters who fall prey to their own biases and give a prejudiced picture of an event, basically propaganda. Citing such links in the Wikipedia articles works, but is far from the truth.

On the other side, many events happen without getting coverage. Such events are not very coverage worthy, or fairly insignificant with respect to the world's most sensational news. Therefore, a citation cannot be arranged, even if the event happened and is known by everyone who has been a part of it. Right now, such edits get rejected by Wiki, but can we do better than that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudranilchakrabortty (talkcontribs) 01:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Rudranilchakrabortty: our policy is described at Wikipedia:Verifiability. Like all policies, it can be discussed, debated, and changed. The discussion takes place on the policy page's talk page, not here on the help desk. -Arch dude (talk) 02:38, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
@Rudranilchakrabortty: Note that Wikipedia has a total of only three "core content policies". These have been in existence for about 18 years, and are fundamental to the way Wikipedia operates. Any change would require extensive discussion to reach consensus. -Arch dude (talk) 03:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Citing myself, in publicly published worksEdit

Unfortunetly, I've never been published myself, outside of "I saw you"s, in the local newspaper. But an friend of mine is a university professor, has numerous peer reviewed publications, and had done a couple of edits that cite his own work. His username makes clear that the editor and the author cited have the same name, and so it's pretty obvious that he is citing himself. The work has been published by respectable peer reviewed journals in his field, it is not self published. It seems to me that this is entirely appropriate, as it is so transparent, and does not break WP's "no original research" rule, as his edits are not original research. Yes, he did original research previously, had it published, and now is just adding to WP based on his old research. But I can see it might be viewed as crossing into a grey zone. I was wondering if there are any clear policies on the matter, and what is the general preception of this sort of contribution. --Keithonearth (talk) 06:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Keithonearth: I don't think there are clear policies. The closest I can think of is WP:SELFCITE, which shows that it is indeed a grey zone. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
@Keithonearth: I think that first sentence at WP:SELFCITE summarizes it pretty well: Using material you have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. If you happen to be reading an article, notice a factual mistake that is not supported by a source, and have published on the subject, correcting the mistake and citing your own legitimately-published work is good for the encylopedia. What is frowned upon would be something like editing many articles and citing your own work when it adds nothing useful (i.e., as a secondary or poorly-related cite). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 16:59, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Reference VS CiteEdit

I am very confuse about the where we use the Reference and cite. Please experienced writers help me how we can accurately apply these. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azher rao (talkcontribs) 07:56, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Azher rao:, Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. Referencing is the entire basis of English Wikipedia, although I have never come across a completely clear explanation of it. You might like to begin your journey here: Help:Referencing for beginners. There are two main ways to create an inline citation. The first is outlined in Help:Referencing for beginners without using templates, in which you manually create a reference in the body of the main text, between <ref> </ref> tags. This method is relatively simple, but it is easy to make a mess of the formatting. The other way, outlined in Help:Referencing for beginners with citation templates, involves {{template}}s, in which you fill out the required information using a pre-defined set of parameters, depending on what you are citing, such as {{cite web}} {{cite book}}, etc. The cite is still surrounded by <ref> </ref> tags, but it will be automatically formatted in the Wikipedia citation style. It requires a little extra effort, but the result will always be correctly formatted. Both methods require the existence of a {{references}} template in the 'References' section at the foot of the article: existing articles will already have one. Have a look at other articles by clicking the 'Edit' button at the top of any article - you will hopefully get the idea. Best of luck, and happy editing. MinorProphet (talk) 10:26, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Azher rao, The tl;dr (too long; didn't read) version of it is: a reference is where you're getting the information from, like a book, website, magazine, etc. A citation is what the reference is in the article's text.
The simplest method for websites would be to put the URL in <ref></ref> tags, but Wikipedia prefers as much information about the source as possible, like who wrote it, what time you accessed it, etc. Templates like {{cite web}} make that easier. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:22, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Updating image fileEdit

Please can you advise on how I can update the image on page:

I am the Marketing Manager and want to update the School crest.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards

KLAMARKETING (talk) 09:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

KLAMARKETING Please see the important information about your username, and some policies that you are required to comply with, that I posted on your user talk page(User Talk:KLAMARKETING). 331dot (talk) 09:14, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Whereabouts of an Wikipedia Article about my Family that I have been contributing toEdit

Hi Fellow Wikipedia Contributors and Users. I'm a bit dumbfounded to find that I can no longer call up the Wikipedia article [in German] on my family of which someone else is the originator but to which I have been contributing as recently as maybe 2 years ago. I am wondering if the originator may have withdrawn the article with the result that there's now no discernible trace in Wikipedia. I have never had any problems accessing Wikipedia articles in German or English before and cannot imagine that my browser is now preventing me from downloading German language titles for review. It's all very weird. If it seems the conclusion is well founded that the former article has been withdrawn by the originator, would I be correct in concluding that there is nothing preventing me from drafting and submitting my own fresh article on my family and its origin and history? I would not wish to inadvertently offend the earlier originator whom I do not know, nor breach some other part of the Wikipedia contributors' code of ethics, so would appreciate any help and guidance Wikipedia contributors might kindly give. Thanks. JvB Jens v. Brasch (talk) 09:35, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Jens v. Brasch This Help Desk is for the English Wikipedia only; if your issue is on the German Wikipedia (a separate project with its own editors) you will need to address it there. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error empty references define - 2020 Beirut explosions - rhosus.shiparrestedEdit

Hello Help Desk,

Would anyone kindly explain the ref tags to me? I have been using <ref name"ThisStringIsARefName>{{Cite Template|param=param}}</ref> and <ref name="ThisStringIsARefName"/> for some time and it generally works, but I came across Template:R on 2020 Beirut explosions. The issue I don't understand is why

Cite error: A list-defined reference with the name "rhosus.shiparrested" has been invoked, but is not defined in the <references> tag (see the help page).

appears. Could anyone assist? Xenmorpha (talk) 10:17, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Xenmorpha, I haven't come across this before, but it appears to be Template:R, which re-uses the ref name defined in <ref name="ThisStringIsARefName"/> with less clutter. eg <ref name="rhosus.fleetmon"> is later referred to as {{r|rhosus.fleetmon}}. The error message appears because the ref name has been defined elsewhere in the article, and you are only editing a single section. It usually doesn't matter, and when you publish the changes, it tends to sort itself out. MinorProphet (talk) 12:19, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

How to cite direct knowledge regarding a member of my familyEdit

Hi there,

I am editing trhe wikipedia page of a deceased family member. I added a picture and information about his life and sons but my edits were deleted and I was told I need a source. As a living relative I have direct knowledge of this. What can I do here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BHFamilyHistory (talkcontribs) 12:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

You cannot do anything if you cannot provide reliable sources for that information. "Direct knowledge" and "family tradition" and the like fail our core value of verifiability. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:41, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Try publishing the source you got the information from. A Tree In A Box (talk) 17:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

New account has marked all edits as minorEdit

Special:Contributions/CPPNewYork Seems fishy to me. I don't know enough about Wikipedia, nor do I have the time, to handle this myself, so I figure I'll flag it here. —⁠ (talk) 13:08, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the edits themselves; but I have left a {{uw-minor}} notice on their talk page. Seagull123 Φ 14:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Url neededEdit

The article monarchy of Spain contains this text:

A copy of the Spanish Constitution, signed by King Juan Carlos, is held at the Palace of the Cortes.
The constitution defines the government's responsibilities.[1] The government consists of the President of the Government and ministers of state. The government conducts domestic and foreign policy, civil and military administration, and the defense of the nation all in the name of the king. Additionally, the government exercises executive authority and statutory regulations.[1] The most direct prerogative the monarch exercises in the formation of Spanish governments is in the nomination and appointment process of the President of the Government (Presidente del Gobierno de España).[1][2]Template:Url needed[3] Following the General Election of the Cortes Generales (Cortes), and other circumstances provided for in the constitution, the king meets with and interviews the political party leaders represented in the Cortes, and then consults with the Speaker of the Congress (who, in this instance, represents the whole of the Cortes Generales).

The template template:url needed does not exist. What template should be used instead? JIP | Talk 14:26, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

JIP, The message refers to the {{cite news}} template, which requires a valid |url= parameter. However, {{Cite news}} is the wrong template for citing the EC English style guide[4]. Someone has removed the url from the cite, and added {{url needed|reason=URL given was for an unrelated story|date=September 2019}}. This is the reason for the red message, which refers to any template missing a url with a valid access date. The best template is probably {{cite web}} using similar parameters; the url I found, shown in ref.[4] below, is for the Eighth edition of January 2016, Last updated August 2020; so you should change the title accordingly, and add |accessdate=5 August 2020. MinorProphet (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


  1. ^ a b c Cite error: The named reference King and Prime Minister was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  2. ^ "The English Style Guide (Fifth edition: 2005 Revised: March 2009)". European Commission Directorate-General for Translation. 2009-03-01. |access-date= requires |url= (help)
  3. ^ The President of the Government is usually known as the prime minister in many English language publications as the title president, outside of academic and business circles, has a republican connotation absent in the Spanish presidente.
  4. ^

Open Street Map - Make map display in EnglishEdit

The map in the Infobox at 2020 Beirut explosions displays in Arabic. This is sub-optimal on an English-language site. Is there any way to make it display in English, to help English-speaking readers of the English-language Wikipedia? Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 15:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

The data exists - the placenames are displayed in English if you click on the "Interactive fullscreen map" link - but I don't see any way to get at it through Template:OSM Location map#Parameters. "nolabels" comes closest. —Cryptic 16:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

How to ? help needed with guidanceEdit


I want to know how can i add a page for a particular individual and company who wants to have a page on Wikipedia??

Thank you and looking forward to detailed response.

Best regards, 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC) (talk)

Ideally, an article would be created by someone who is not involved with the individual or company. If they have asked you to create an article for them, I strongly suggest you read and understand the conflict of interest and paid editing policies, as while you would not be completely disallowed to create/edit, your contributions will be viewed with more scrutiny. Edit requests are generally what editors with COI (paid or otherwise) use to contribute to articles. You may also wish to tell these interested persons that being on Wikipedia isn't necessarily a good thing. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:37, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

IFPRI page - Please review talk pageEdit

Dear Sir or Madam, Can you review and approve/update the changes I left on the Talk page? Thank you. Erica Saito — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esaitocgiar (talkcontribs) 17:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Esaitocgiar: I responded on the talk page. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Being blockedEdit

Tell me why to contribute when i try to answer on a subject some idiot has blocked me i dont know who this buttfungus is but has several times blocked me — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

You are editing without logging in, so we cannot easily tell what edits you have made and we therefore cannot know exactly why you are being blocked. A user of this IP address was warned, not blocked, about adding an unreferenced name -- Bryce Stanley (Stand up Comedian) -- to a page. That edit was removed because it does not meet our requirements for lists (there is no article for that person) and was unreferenced. To answer you more general question, you should not waste your valuable time attempting to contribute unless you are willing to learn a few basic things about how we operate. Please start by reading WP:AGF. -Arch dude (talk) 18:45, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
If you have an account that is blocked then you need to follow the unblock process on that account's talk page and not make further edits. the block applies to the person not the specific account. RudolfRed (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Your notice that wikipedia has neutral content is laughableEdit

At the end of the day, your moderators are admins favour the content that they support. I can attest to that fact with the highly Indian favoured content that I have seen all throughout wikipedia. Your claim of being neutral is laughable! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

What do you mean, IP editor? There are many articles that are related to India because a fraction of editors on here that exhibit an interest. Whether or not they're good articles are another topic entirely. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
When it comes to articles related to India, IP editor, that area is somewhat of a backwater, especially where popular culture is concerned. I have long wondered whether the unofficial policy is to just let that part of Wikipedia regulate itself to some extent. I am not bothered, as Indian pop culture is not one of my interests. Editors with an apparent conflict of interest are found editing articles about India-related topics more frequently than in other areas, from what I have seen. This includes business interests, family interests, ethnic advocacy and fandom. India-related articles comprise an area in which Wikipedia needs to improve its standards. I somewhat shudder to think of the neutrality situation in the various Indian language Wikipedias.
In defense of the high proportion of India-related articles on Wikipedia, I note that, if India is considered an "English-speaking nation", then it may contain a large proportion of the world's English speakers. As for undue emphasis on the "Indian" aspects of an article subject, it's a relic of the time when Wikipedia was hungry for content; any competent editor is welcome to rework an article to correct undue emphasis, and that includes all of us.--Quisqualis (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Any editor with a point of view (e.g., a Pakistani point of view) will perceive a site with a neutral point of view to be biased. We get complaints all the time, usually from IP editors and usually making sweeping generalized claims of bias without any examples. We are variously accused of liberal bias, conservative bias, US bias, anti-US bias, anti-christian bias, anti-islamic bias, and many other biases. We do the best we can. We can try to help you correct any specific biased paragraph you care to point out. -Arch dude (talk) 02:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Despite what is claimed, Wikipedia IS plagued with bias.

Thibeinn (talk) 14:37, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Anyone know why there was a spike on this chart in early 2020Edit And it went down afterwards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:B031:FA6B:389A:1F77:6577:B6B1 (talk) 21:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm not understanding your question. There's no chart on the talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:12, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean the spike in article views around January 31 2020? It could be due to any number of factors, from a social media post to a world event to random chance, but it's very hard to determine which.--Quisqualis (talk) 00:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

August 6Edit

help for the final step to publish my wikipedia article Treehouse135 (talk) 10:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Edit

hey there!

I just finished my draft for my Wikipedia article but I'm not sure how I can proceed to publish it. I have already clicked on the button 'publish page' and so my article is now in my section 'contributions'. However I am not sure how I can finish publishing it since there is no button on my account where I can create the online link or where I can submit my article for review. I already researched a lot on how to proceed but I am sadly stuck. Also the drop-down option 'more' when I work on my article is not available on my account. Could you please provide me with the information on how I can publish my article.

Many Thanks, Treehous135 Treehouse135 (talk) 10:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Treehouse135 "Publish changes" should be understood to mean simply "save changes", it does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit your draft for review, click the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button on the draft to do so. 331dot (talk) 10:37, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Printing The SignpostEdit

Hi all. I was wondering if there was an easy way to print out the Signpost newspaper. I find it's much easier to read physically but I failed to find a setting to print out a tabloid/A4 version. Is this a feature?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Squid45 (talkcontribs) 10:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Squid45: this page - Help:Printing - explains how to print pages on Wikipedia, which may be of interest to you. Seagull123 Φ 11:03, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Need help with archiving on Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling, I messed up when setting up MiszaBotEdit

There are two problems as far as I can see. I copied from an established talk page and didn't reset the counter = 1. After the first archive it created Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 21. Also the archived page is not showing up in the talk page archive template. Possibly the two issues are related, but I have spent a few hours trying to research this and am making zero headway. I don't think I am going to be able to solve this without help. Thank you. Ward20 (talk) 13:08, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

In was able to figure out I needed to undo the archive and reset the counter = 1, so it should create a proper numbered archive. This leaves Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 21 still existing. Will it work to now just add a "Delete Page-error template" to get an admin to delete the page? Ward20 (talk) 15:23, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I have moved Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 21 to Talk:Politics of J. K. Rowling/Archive 1. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:21, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Ward20 (talk) 19:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

What Happened To A Page - Deleted?Edit

How do I find out why a page I contributed and was on Wikipedia for over a year was deleted? The page is "Glenn McDonald (musician)". Where can I find Notes or Talk for the deleted page? Does the deleted page exist in an archive? Nozydoggy (talk) 13:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Nozydoggy It was deleted in April as an uncontested Proposed Deletion. You can view the reason for the deletion by clicking Glenn McDonald (musician); if you wish to contest this, you may do so at Requests for Undeletion. 331dot (talk) 13:49, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
OK Thanks, but when I click Glenn McDonald (musician) , comes back as The Page Does Not Exist. How do I find the reason for deletion? Nozydoggy (talk) 13:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
A red box should appear with the deletion reason, but I will copy it here: "Expired PROD, concern was: doesn't meet WP:MUSICBIO. The one inline citation is a deadlink. The book in the References section is classified as fiction here. I've found a few passing mentions of him, but he's not included at AllMusic, Penguin Guide to Jazz, canadianjazzarchive or other places I'd expect a notable (Canadian) jazz musician to be." 331dot (talk) 13:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
For future reference, Nozydoggy, if you want to track down a deleted article, go to Special:log/delete, and then enter the name of the article in the "Target" box. It gives the message 331dot repeated above. --ColinFine (talk) 14:22, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit to Wandering Jew PlantEdit

Hi, I tried to edit the common name "Wandering Jew" for the plant to add that is could also refer to the Jewish people's ability walk the desert, survive, thrive, and their refusal to be contained or controlled; which are much like the characteristics for this beautiful plant.

I am Jewish, and I'm trying to stop the use of the word Jew as a slur. So many of us consider the common name "wandering Jew" to mean what I've put above, and reject the other origin that mocks our religion.

I edited the page but my edit was removed.

Please re-edit the page to include this other definition alongside the cruel one, as an alternative and as a way to honor Jewish people, instead of degrade them.

"Jew" should not be a slur, and is only seen as such because anti-semites made it so. Help us reclaim this term please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:24, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

I sympathize, but Wikipedia documents the usage that is reported in reliable sources, not the usage you want it to. If you can find such a usage reported in reliable sources (WP:RS), then you can add it. Wikipedia not a venue for advocacy: see WP:NOT. -Arch dude (talk) 15:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Photo uploadEdit

hi. I just registered to upload a photo of my father on his page. But i cannot find option to upload the photo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emin 251972 (talkcontribs) 16:04, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@Emin 251972: as you can see from the response below, it can be fairly complicated for new editors to upload images. If you want to email me at the link on the left of my user page User:Timtempleton where it says "email this user", I can try to help you. But I must warn you ahead of time, if it's an old picture it may be hard to determine who owns the copyright. You will likely have to discuss over email with the volunteers at the Open-source Ticket Request System (OTRS). [[1]] (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Photo Update to Wikipedia pageEdit

I represent a client with a Wikipedia article and would like to update her photo. I understand that there are copyright issues, and I have full reproduction permission. How do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B0A1:95BE:9D86:3089:45F:E2A7 (talk) 16:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

First, you must create an account, as only logged in users can upload images. Second, you will need to review and formally comply with the paid editing policy since you state that you represent a client. Before you can upload an image, you need to become autoconfirmed, meaning that your account must be at least four days old and have at least 10 edits. Once it is, you may follow the instructions given on this page. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
As 331dot pointed out, it can be fairly complicated for new editors to upload images, especially if there's a conflict of interst. If you want to email me at the link on the left of my user page User:Timtempleton where it says "email this user", I can try to help you. You will need to have proof that you own the copyright for the photo, or the photographer him/herself will have to send permission, to satisfy the volunteers at the Open-source Ticket Request System (OTRS). [[2]] TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:13, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Please also be aware that "full reproduction permission" is insufficient. We cannot accept an image unless it is released under the CC-BY-SA copyright license. Only the copyright holder (almost always the photographer) can license the copyright. -Arch dude (talk) 18:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
I also forgot to mention that you will have to register an account in order to use the email system. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:26, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Flagging an irrelevant referenceEdit

Is there a suitable template with which to flag a reference that appears to bear no relation to the content of an article? (I'm looking at this article.)--Shantavira|feed me 18:29, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Shantavira. I think you are looking for {{failed verification}}. --ColinFine (talk) 18:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
That will do nicely, thank you.--Shantavira|feed me 20:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Zerem Freier temp valueEdit


I wrote a value about 'Zerem Freier' (my father) under my user. Can you please move it to the values area?

Thanks, Micha Dror DrorMicha (talk) 19:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

@DrorMicha: I have moved the page to Draft:Zerem Freier for now as your userpage is not intended to prepear drafts. This page curently lacks any form of verfyability and therefore currently fails WP:NPERSON. We don't use plain external links in the article text. I will shortl leave a message at your userpage containing more information. When all issiues have been adressed, please hit Submit your draft for review! Its not adviseable to move the page to article space yourself, even if you could do that at some point. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 19:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Appreciate your help. Thanks, Micha Dror DrorMicha (talk) 19:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Possible Source of Editing Without Meaning found in a wikipedia pageEdit

I found that the wikipedia page infobox is disappeared replaced with a mysterious link. Can any of the admin can look into this page for guidance?--EnshrineSnowVista (talk) 20:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

 Y Done. Looks like possible vandalism. Maineartists (talk) 20:10, 6 August 2020 (UTC)


I have been told that being an eyewitness to an event is not a good enough citation. That you prefer second and third hand information. Is that true? If it is, then all of Wikipedia is questionable — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

We require reliably published information. That does not guarantee that it is true (even edited sources can make mistakes), but it allows readers to go to the source for it. Unpublished information is never acceptable in a Wikipedia article, because a reader has no way of verifying it. See verifiability. --ColinFine (talk) 21:29, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Please read WP:NOT and WP:V. We are an encyclopedia, not a news source. We are also crowdsourced with no mechanism, and no desire, to validate the identity or veracity of contributors. Therefore, everything in Wikipedia must be verifiable in reliable sources. You are free to find anything in Wikipedia or anywhere else on the Internet "questionable", and I hope you do. -Arch dude (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

August 7Edit

Nick Robertson's mother (ice hockey)Edit

Hi, just letting you know that Nick Robertson's mother was not born in Manila. She was born in the Visayas. kindly update Nick's Wikipedia page. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:49, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. If you have a reliable, independent source that provides that information, please discuss it over at Talk:Nick Robertson (ice hockey). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:06, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
That would be Draft talk:Nick Robertson (ice hockey). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 04:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
It appears that it could be Nicholas Robertson (ice hockey)? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:12, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Looks like the draft is older than the mainspace article. Pinging relevant editors HickoryOughtShirt?4, Nolanisntfunny, and Robert McClenon. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:25, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Talk on Nicholas Robertson (ice hockey). The other one I made a few months ago but got denied since Robertson had yet to play a game. He now has played 3 games, and someone beat me to making an article. About Robertson's mother, I'm not entirely sure. Nolanisntfunny (talk) 16:43, 8 August 2020 (UTC)Nolanisntfunny

Can I link to Wikipedia page with table sorted on a particular columnEdit

For example, suppose I email someone the following URL:

This links to the start of the section containing the table I am referring to, sorted by its leftmost column. But what I really want to reference in my email is the vice-presidents who were oldest at the start of their vice-presidency. I could explain in my email how to sort-descending on that field, but is there some way to encapsulate that in the URL itself, so that when someone clicks on my link, the table will be displayed not in its default sort order but sorted as I would prefer? And as a follow-up, is there a way to wikilink that? Mathew5000 (talk) 04:03, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

AFAIK that is not possible because not implemented, and I think nobody will implement it, because it is extraordenary slow, as each time you render a table, you must check if the table should be sorted differently, and then you must check if this sort is actually possible (sorting a table by row 5 if the table has only 4 rows doesn't work obviviously). Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Question regaring page deletionEdit

I have created a page on wikipedia abut an institution, my intention is not publicity but to provide authentic information to the public domain. I got the notice my page can not be published because it is showing as it is created for publicity. H ow can I resolve this problem and publish my page successfully? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhumi Shivhare (talkcontribs) 05:48, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Bhumi Shivhare: Normally, there are about 7 steps to create a new article successfully. Now you have already created a version, and I'm pretty sure it can be discouraging if I tell you now that this will probbably need to be rewritten entirely. If you want to make a new version, I will include the steps below.
  • First, review our guideline on notability, our policy on Verifiability, and our general notability guideline (GNG). Consider whether your subject clearly meets the standards listed there. Also, check if the topic is already covered, perhaps under a different spelling or in a section of an article about a wider topic. You will waste a lot of time, if you create a new article, and then find that the encyclopedia already has an article about that.
  • Second, read how to create Your First Article and referencing for beginners and again consider if you want to go ahead.
  • Third, If you have any connection or affiliation with the subject, disclose it in accordance with our guideline on Conflict of interest. If you have been or expect to be paid for making edits, or are making them as part of your job, disclose this according to the strict rules of the Paid-contribution disclosure. This is absolutely required; omitting it can result in you being blocked from further editing.
  • Fourth, gather sources. You want independent, professionally published, reliable sources with each discussing the subject in some detail. If you can't find several such sources, stop; an article will not be created! Sources do NOT need to be online, or in English, although it is helpful if at least some are. The "independent" part is vital. Wikipedia does not consider as independent sources such as press releases, or news stories based on press releases, or anything published by the subject itself or an affiliate of the subject. Strictly local coverage is also not preferred. Regional or national newspapers or magazines, books published by mainstream publishers (not self-published), or scholarly journals are usually good. So are online equivalents of these. (Additional sources may verify particular statements but not discuss the subject in detail. But those significant detailed sources are needed first.)
  • Fifth, use the article wizard to create a draft under the articles for creation project. This is always a good idea for an inexperienced editor, but in the case of an editor with a conflict of interest it is essential.
  • Sixth, use the sources gathered before (and other sources you may find along the way) to write the article. Cite all significant statements to sources. Do not express opinions or judgements, unless they are explicitly attributed to named people or entities, preferably in a direct quotation, and cited to a source. Do not use puffery or marketing-speak. Provide page numbers, dates, authors and titles for sources to the extent these are available. A title is always needed. Submit the draft when you think it is ready for review. Be prepared to wait a while for a review (several weeks or more).
  • Seventh, when (well perhaps if) your draft is declined, pay attention to the comments of the reviewer, and correct the draft and resubmit it. During this whole process, if you face any unresolvable editing hurdles, or cannot comprehend any editing issue, feel free to post a request here or at the Teahouse and ask the regulars. Repeat this until the draft passes review.

Congratulations, you have now created a valid Wikipedia article. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

How much time dose it take for Wikipedia to Review and Publish a Article if its written by a New CreatorEdit

Hi Sir

I had written a article about a well known person in mangalore the link to the article is given bellow. As i am a new Creator in Wikipedia i wanted to know how much time dose it take for the article to be reviewed and published ? because i am getting different different answers on the internet.

Link to the article : — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chdefforts (talkcontribs) 07:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Chdefforts You have not submitted your draft for a review, I will shortly add the appropriate information to allow you to do so. However, if you were to submit it at this time, I think that it would be rejected, as the sources you have offered do not seem to be appropriate. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. The sources you have offered seem to be press release-type stories or routine coverage, which does not establish notability. Please read Your First Article for more information. When you do submit it(again, I would not do so yet), there is no set timeframe, as drafts are reviewed in no particular order, but as there are usually thousands of drafts awaiting review, it usually takes several weeks.
If you have a connection to the person you wrote about, you must read the conflict of interest and paid editing policies and make the required declarations. 331dot (talk) 08:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

My Domain Blocked By WikipediaEdit

HI, is share some usefull and helpful links with wikipedia but someone remove and blocked my domain please tell me about the edits which creats spaming and please review it again and unblock my domain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamsi98 (talkcontribs) 07:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hamsi98 Wikipedia is not a collection of links. Your addition seems to serve no purpose other than telling the world about what I presume is your website; that's considered spamming. 331dot (talk) 08:49, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Note: OP was a sock of Hamsi97. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:21, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Vapepal e liquid brandEdit


I hope you can help me.

How do I get my e liquid brand 'Vapepal' listed on the following Wikipedia page 'List of electronic cigarette and e-cigarette liquid brands'

Thank you,

MeganMegandavidson001 (talk) 08:05, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Megandavidson001 List articles like that are not for listing every possible member of the list in existence, only those that have Wikipedia articles. Your brand would only merit a Wikipedia article if it receives significant, in depth coverage by independent reliable sources showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Not every e cigarette brand does.
Since you are here to contribute about your brand, you must review conflict of interest and paid editing and make the required declarations. 331dot (talk) 08:47, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Refering Ayodhay Ram janbhumo as Disputed Land - as on dateEdit

Referring to the content on Wikipedia, as in below In India, construction of the Ram Temple on disputed land officially begins, with Prime Minister Narendra Modi laying the foundation stone (ceremony pictured).

Pl. note that India is a Democratic country and the land dispute has gone through all the possible processes before addressing it, lastly by Judicially, which has on the basis of numerous records archeological and history, before giving the verdict. It's unacceptable and unjustifiable to even mention the word 'Dispute " now while addressing this Subject. I am saying this discreetly, irrespective of what cast or religion I come from. had it been declared a MUSLIM MOSQUE site I would have accepted, as it has taken 70 years to conclude this matter More so it was exploited for vote ban politics and with the conclusion, this will helo o bring both communities of India at peace and brotherhood — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state. If those sources state that use or ownership of the land is no longer in dispute, then the article can say that, but if those sources state that the dispute still exists(even if legal processes in India have been resolved), then the article needs to say that too. If you have sources to support your position, please offer them on the talk page of the article in question, the proper place to discuss this. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
I sympathise with the OP. There certainly was a dispute, as detailed at Ayodhya dispute. But the use of the phrase "disputed land", in the top item of "In the news" on the main page, implies that the dispute is ongoing. I have seen no evidence to justify that implication. Maproom (talk) 09:40, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Generally, all or almost all parties to a dispute must agree that it is resolved for there to no longer be a dispute. That said, I don't claim to know what sources are saying. 331dot (talk) 09:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

nationality, ethnicity, origin, identityEdit

Olivia de Haviland is identified in the lede to her article that she was British-American. I know she was born British (in Japan), but she became a U.S. citizen (I haven't seen anything about her having had dual citizenship). On what Wikipedian basis, is she called British-American rather than American? Is it standard to give original nationality/citizenship as the first part of a hyphenated label when the subject has changed citizenship? What about people who are ethnically, say, Italian, but who were born in, say, the U.S.? Are they to be labeled Italian-Americans (as is commonly done "on the street"), the same as some-one born in Italy but having later become an American? How do I find guide-lines on this, or is it done ad hoc? Kdammers (talk) 09:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Kdammers, as far as I know there's not a completely set rule on describing the nationality of people with dual citizenship. I think the usual way of doing it would be to follow how a person is usually described by reliable sources, as this will vary on a person by person basis. I believe Olivia remained a British citizen throughout her life (basing this on the fact that she received a DBE a couple of years ago). The best place to discuss this with other editors would probably be on Talk:Olivia de Haviland, and it looks like a previous discussion on that topic took place there a couple of years back. Pi (Talk to me!) 02:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
That would be Talk:Olivia de Havilland#Correct nationality?. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:49, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Adding a linkEdit

I have tried to add a couple of links from pages about piers to my web site dedicated to piers from around the world. The vast majority of my site comprises of paintings, postcards and copy from vintage newspapers about the piers. None of these are for sale. There is one page where you can but posters of the piers, but as only one has been bought in the last year, this is clearl not a selling site. Therfore the site is for those interested in piers, this is not a shop, however, the two posts that I have attempted to add have both been rejected.

Paul Tracey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Thomas Tracey Artist (talkcontribs) 10:33, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Paul Thomas Tracey Artist. Well, as it is your website, you shouldn't be adding links to it - per WP:COI. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 11:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Helo, Paul Thomas Tracey Artist. Wikipedia is quite restrictive about external links: WP:EL explains when they can and can't be linked from within articles. One of the no-nos is "Individual web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services, or to web pages with objectionable amounts of advertising. For example, the mobile phone article should not link to web pages that mostly promote or advertise cell-phone products or services". I hear that you have only sold one poster in the last year, but is clearly a selling site. --ColinFine (talk) 13:53, 7 August 2020 (UTC)


why does it say the KKK is right wing when they in fact were started by Democrats to kill Republicans because the Republican party was srmtart we d by black people. They killed black and white republicans.

They are a far left extremist group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1006:B10C:3ADC:5030:1103:A487:C1D4 (talk) 14:21, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

The correct place for this discussion would be over at Talk:Ku Klux Klan. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:54, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Hello, please raise your concerns on the talk page of the article concerned. You may find that this has been discussed before... but you are welcome to start a new thread if you so wish. You would need to provide reliable sources to corroborate your statements. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Seriously? Please don't encourage people with a weak grasp of reality to clutter up talk pages with Looney Tunes conspiracy theories. Okkkay? Clarityfiend (talk) 06:20, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Then point them to the previous discussions on there. This still isn't the appropriate venue. If the arguments don't hold water it'll be shut down quickly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:37, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Locked up pages vs editable pagesEdit

I have noticed that many actors and presidents pages are locked up and not editable, (no edit links) whereas other people (even some other actors) are fully editable. Why?

Can I have my page made not editable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:40, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, pages are 'locked' or as Wikipedia more typically says 'protected' usually because they have been subject to disruption of one sort or another – typically vandalism but sometimes as a result of content disputes – over a considerable period of time. A page would not be protected unless there was a good reason to do so; it will not happen because someone requests it without one. When you refer to 'my page' please clarify what you mean. A Wikipedia page you have written or one that is about you? No page 'belongs' to any particular editor (see WP:OWN) and if you mean a page about you or one where you have a connection, please see the guide to managing a conflict of interest. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Adding company detailsEdit


I need to add biography for my company details.

How can I do this?

Brian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianmniko (talkcontribs) 17:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Brianmniko: Hello, unfortunately the short answer is you cannot or at least you should not be attempting this sort of thing, which is not suited to an encyclopedia. If your company is notable in the Wikipedia sense (see that page for more information together with WP:NORG) then editors without a connection to the organisation will create an article in the course of time, based upon what has been written about the company in multiple independent, reliable sources such as mainstream newspapers etc. Wikipedia has little if any, interest in what a company has to say about itself. Wikipedia should not be used for promotion or as any form of directory. Sorry, we cannot assist. Eagleash (talk) 18:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Brianmniko. I'm afraid that, like many people, you are confusing Wikipedia with a social media site or business directory. If your company meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability - roughly, that several people who have no connection with the company have chosen to write about it in reliably published places such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers - then we could have an article about your company. It will not belong to the company, it will not necessarily say what the company would want to say, it will contain very little material from the company (as opposed to from those independent commentators), and you will be strongly discouraged from editing it directly.
I will also mention that creating a new article is one of the hardest tasks for a new Wikipedia editor, and most editors who try it before they have spent a few weeks or months improving existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works, have a frustrating and disappointing time.
If after these warnings, you still would like to go ahead, first you must read about editing with a conflict of interest, and make the mandatory declaration explained in paid editing. Then you should read your first article, and, having found the three or four independent reliably published sources that are absolutely essential to establish notability, you should create a draft using the articles for creation process. --ColinFine (talk) 18:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Infobox spacingEdit

See my diff here. This happens a lot - where the spacing in the infobox parameters change drastically - I assume this is due to the visual editor. My question: is this an issue or is it harmless? And if it's not harmless, how do I stop it from happening? Thanks! ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 18:15, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

This is mw:Topic:Vmfgal6x2okt5f4v. In short, opinions vary about whether this is harmless or not, there's no way to disable it for one specific visual edit, and the automatic formatting can be adjusted (or removed entirely) by an edit to the TemplateData of the template whose formatting is being changed. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Pppery (talk · contribs) - thank you for the response! That answers my question, though it ultimately seems the specifics are above my pay-grade haha. Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia talk 19:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Correcting incorrect submissionEdit

Hello! I am a new editor. I inadvertently edited a page incorrectly. Is there a way to cancel my edit, or will the reviewers automatically do so for me? Also, I received a message when I tried to make another edit that I was blocked for being a vandal, not really sure what this means. This was my first time submitting a correction, so not sure why that message would appear? Any help is appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barefootjimmy (talkcontribs) 20:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I undid it for you. There's nothing to stop you from undoing your own edit. Meters (talk) 20:13, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
And there's nothing in your filter log about any blocked edits. Meters (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Disable Unnecessary Link Pop-ups?Edit

When I place my pointer on a link, a pop-up appears containing the exact same word(s) visible in the link. For example, if the link is attached to the word "village", when I place my pointer on that link a pop-up appears with the word "village" inside it. Such pop-ups are unnecessary and serve absolutely no purpose. Is there a way to disable such pop-ups?

Thibeinn (talk) 21:05, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thibeinn: It sounds like you have having a problem with the navigation popup. Go to preferences and gadgets and unselect navigation popups. That might help. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: I do not have that option selected.

Thibeinn (talk) 23:59, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thibeinn: You probably see the page name which is often different from the link text. For example, [[Village (album)|Village]] produces Village where you may see "Village (album)" in the pop-up to show which page the link actually goes to. If you see "Enable previews" at the bottom right of pages then try clicking it, or enable "Page previews" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. This gives a preview of an article when you hover over an article link. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:56, 8 August 2020 (UTC)


Yes. I am seeing the article name ("page name", as you called it) in a little pop-up.

I do not see "Enable previews" at the bottom right of any page here on the Wikipedia website.

"Page previews" is disabled in my preferences.

I do not want to see the little pop-ups at all. It is annoying to have a pop-up appear every time my pointer happens onto a link.

Thibeinn (talk) 14:16, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thibeinn: Try saving the below in your common JavaScript. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:46, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
$(document).ready(function() {

August 8Edit

I'm having trouble setting up my pageEdit

Yes I'm trying to set up my Wikipedia page when I look it up in a search nothing comes up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Premo Predican (talkcontribs) 03:01, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Premo Predican: So, here's the problems, in no particular order:
1) You set up a user page, which is not an article. You're probably searching in for articles instead of user pages.
2) You've set up your user page as a webhost, which is not what user pages are for.
3) You're attempting to write an article about yourself, which is highly discouraged even if you're doing everything else right.
4) You're trying to write an article to promote your career, which is against our policy against promotion.
5) You seem to be thinking that Wikipedia does "profiles." No. Wikipedia is a volunteer-driven summary of independent and professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.
For the correct way to go about writing an article, see "How to write articles that won't be rejected or deleted" in this guide I wrote for new users. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Obtaining copyright permissionEdit

I know of several places where the owner of a photo of an object or place would be happy to allow the image to be published in Wikipedia with free use. Every time I try to find out how to do it, I get discouraged by the vast amount of verbiage in Wikipedia. It should not be this difficult. (I am not a newbie, incidentally; I have been editing on Wikipedia since 2005.) I just need a simple piece of text, in which I can fill in the blanks in advance, ie the file-name of the image and the name of the owner, and then send to the image's owner. They will just need an e-mail address so that they can send their permission for the record. I guess that this requirement is very common, and so it should be at the start of any article describing how to obtain copyright permission. Only then should other complications be listed, ideally in another linked article. It should not be necessary to have the patience of a law student. JMcC (talk) 09:42, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

What matters is not ownership of the photo, it's ownership of copyright in the photo. If someone owns copyright in an image because they created it, and wants it to be published in Wikipedia with free use, there's no need for any email. They can upload it to Wikimedia Commons, at, and check the button that says "This file is my own work". Maproom (talk) 10:07, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
You are missing the point. I know people can load their own work, I have done it many times, but many other people are not active editors of Wikipedia. They would be willing for their photos to be used and I am willing to load the photo. I only want to send them a simple statement of the permission that they should give to Wikipedia. JMcC (talk) 12:13, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Jmcc150, may be the help you need on Commons, the preferred place for uploads Fiddle Faddle 12:19, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. I was lost in the different options. Now I have a simple example. I think the Help section needs a Help section. JMcC (talk) 15:30, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Getting back my subject on wikipediaEdit

Bonjour Utilisateur Mohand.C.A Je veux réccupèrer mon article sur: "Biigraphie sur torture et persecution des autorités algériènnes".qulq'un d'aitre que moi a sabotté cet article. Mérci — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohand.C.A (talkcontribs) 10:23, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Mohand.C.A,C'est le Wikipedia en anglais. Votre message est sûrement pour l'édition en français?? Presque toutes les gens ici parlent seulement en Anglais Fiddle Faddle 10:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
@Mohand.C.A: vouz pouvez demander une question avec l'aide de cette page - fr:Aide:Poser une question - sur le Wikipédia français. (You can ask a question with the help of this page - fr:Aide:Poser une question - on French Wikipedia.) Seagull123 Φ 12:22, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Taipanusa's questionEdit

Hi I'm new and want to help with Myanmar painters.

this is the wrong photo for U Kin Maung (Bank).

Instead show here is a photo of Kin Maung Yin. I'm certain. KMY is a different person. I knew him well.

How do I delete this photo?

How do I enter a correct photo--if I can find one (He died a long time ago)

Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taipanusa (talkcontribs) 13:58, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

@Taipanusa: Welcome and thanks for offering to help. To delete the picture from the Kin Maung article, just edit the article and remove the picture's filename from within the infobox template. However, If you intend to create an article for KMY, then please defer this action until your KMY article is ready, for an obscure reason. This copyrighted picture was uploaded using a "fair use" rationale. We do not allow a "fair use" picture to remain on Wikipedia unless it is used in at least one article. So, to avoid its removal, leave it in the "wrong" article until you can add it to the new article. To write your new KMY article, please read WP:YFA. Since you knew KMY, please read WP:COI and put a note on your user page or user talk page to let the reviewers know. COI is not a problem, it's just a fact, and your note will ensure that the reviewers take a little extra care. After creating your KMY article, adding the picture to it, and deleting it from the KMB article, if you do find a picture for KMB, please come back here, and we can help you. Uploading a copyrighted picture under a "fair use" rationale is not simple. -Arch dude (talk) 19:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Redirects that break existing commentsEdit

There are times when a bunch of people use a wikilink in discussions on talk pages and noticeboards. Occasionally there is a proposal that, while otherwise reasonable, changes the target of an often-used Wikilink and thus makes every one of those comments link to a page the author did not intend to link to. Imagine the confusion if suddenly WP:AGF or even WP:1AM suddenly linked to some other page.

If the number of pages is small, it is easy to go and fix the links, but sometimes there are thousands of them.

Does Wikipedia have a an actual policy against doing this, or is this just one of those common sense things that everyone knows but nobody documents? --Guy Macon (talk) 16:48, 8 August 2020 (UTC)