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Nomination of Bernard Drake (disambiguation) for deletionEdit

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bernard Drake (disambiguation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Jimmy SimonsEdit

 

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MP stubsEdit

Hallo Boleyn

I'm coming across lots of your MP stubs while stubsorting. I'm giving them the detailed stub category eg {{England-pre1707-MP-stub}} and the categories from the hierarchy at eg Category:15th-century English MPs, but I suspect that a lot will slip through the net if other stub-sorters aren't as familiar with the UK historic MP cats and stubs. It would be great if you could just routinely stick the right stub and category on while creating these little stubs, also the {{link rot}} tag if you haven't got time to sort out the reference fully. As you're producing so many, it would take much less editor time in all if you could do these extra bits while creating the stub, and wouldn't take you long. Thanks for all your work on disambiguations etc. PamD 11:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Pam, I add categories where I know them but am not looking extensively for categories on my latest ones, just concentrating on adding what I know and getting the articles started. I'm not planning to stub-sort or add extensive categories, but will add what I know. Boleyn (talk) 13:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
That stub template I mentioned above is useful, applies to all pre-1707 English MPs, might well be missed by inexperienced stub-sorters - one of the more arcane templates. It would be great if you could add it when appropriate. Thanks. PamD 15:27, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORTEdit

Per WP:ORDER this goes before the cats and I've got a feeling it doesn't work for any cats which are before it. In Kerry Sharpe and another recent Manx politician you added it below existing cats. Lots to keep an eye on! Thanks for your work tidying up dab pages! PamD 15:27, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Robert Swinburne (born c.1376)Edit

Hallo, please watch out for redlinked categories - just cast a quick eye over the stub once it's done. Have corrected to Category:People from Newcastle upon Tyne without hyphens. I moved the page too: I don't think "b." in a title is very clear. Thanks. PamD 09:31, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

  • PamD, if I create one red-linked category by accident, among creating many thousands of articles with all blue-linked categories, I don't think you need to send a message criticising that. As for the title, I went with what it was already redlinked as, but I like the change. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 16:04, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

CheersEdit

  Merry Christmas, Boleyn!
Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 19:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
 
Thank you, Onel5969 and the same to you :) Boleyn (talk) 06:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Your talk page archivesEdit

There's something strange going on with the archiving of your user talk. The archiving bot has been archiving things to old archives, so now you've got a rather confusing split in many of them. E.g. User talk:Boleyn/Archive 17 has messages up to early March 2012, and then again from June 2019 to mid-September 2019. Similar issues exist for most, possibly all, of the archives prior to that one. (Additionally, you appear to have accidentally created archive 37 as User: subpage rather than User talk: subpage, but that's pretty easily fixed) You might of course be aware of this, but I figured I'd drop a line just in case all the same. AddWittyNameHere 23:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't check my archives at all so hadn't noticed. Best wishes, 06:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019Edit

 

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

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Source Guide Discussion

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This month's refresher course

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Mayors of ReadingEdit

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Mayors of Reading requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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This should be as a disambiguation category, but I'm not sure if I've formatted it right? Jmertel23. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 16:00, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
@Boleyn: My apologies for not responding right away. I've never seen, nor can I find any guidance regarding the creation of, disambiguation categories - I don't think they are something that exist / are used. On a different note - I'm always so impressed by all the new content you add - thank you! Jmertel23 (talk) 17:48, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Must have been my confusion, Jmertel23, thanks for helping sort it. Thank you for the compliment :) Boleyn (talk) 09:08, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Season's GreetingsEdit

  FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:58, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Bzuk, and the same to you! Boleyn (talk) 15:58, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Good luckEdit

Speedy deletion nomination of Samuel Hannay (disambiguation)Edit

 

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Speedy deletion nomination of Sarah Harrop (disambiguation)Edit

 

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William Gower (MP)Edit

Thank you for William Gower (MP)! Since the only other William Gower is a minor character in a lost film, I've moved the MP to the base name and added a hatnote. Cheers! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:48, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Shhhnotsoloud, that looks like the right call. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:27, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rebecca Thorn (disambiguation)Edit

 

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  • Thanks, Pkbwcgs, I should have noticed there was a redirect that needed deleting too. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:26, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Jepson PrairieEdit

Hi. I'm not clear what exactly it is you want me to say? Thmazing (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Thmazing, thanks for getting back to me. A summary of my messages is: 'Please add your references [to Jepson Prairie among others]...I wasn't sure if you understood about references and external links or not; happy to help if you have any questions...can you please respond to messages...you know how to edit your talk page, you have done so many times, so please work with me'. Are you clear on how to reference and if not, would you like help? What sources did you use in the writing of the article? Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 11:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) @Thmazing: The problem was that although you had provided several External Links you had not used any of them as a footnoted reference to support the content of the article. All the content seems well supported by your first EL so I have converted it to a reference (roughly - could be better formatted), and added a References section and Reflist. You could have done this yourself in response to Boleyn's first comments of June 2019. Another time, please remember to add actual references, not just external links, to save this sort of to and fro bother. External links sections are for additional material, not for the sources which support the text. Thanks. PamD 12:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
And I've now tidied it up further: making a proper reference with access-date, which is important for any online source as they can change over time, and reinstating the "Official website" using a template. Now looks good, but could do with third-party sourcing. PamD 12:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, Pam. Thmazing (talk) 09:18, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

ThisEdit

was gracious [Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garnet Jex].NotButtigieg (talk) 20:06, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

"Kevin Hale" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Kevin Hale. Since you had some involvement with the Kevin Hale redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rykard JenkinsEdit

 

The article Rykard Jenkins has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Minimal evidence of notability. WP:BEFORE shows only tabloid and deprecated sources, no RS coverage that I could find.

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Ralph Cohn in draftspaceEdit

References are added.--وسام زقوت (talk) 10:58, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, وسام زقوت, thanks for your work on this draft. Unfortunately, imdb is not a reliable source and isn't allowed to be used as a reference on Wikipedia - there may be other sources out there though. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 11:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Mistresses of Henry VIIIEdit

Hello


I suspect it's on your watchlist, but I made some fairly hefty revisions on this page so flagging it as a courtesy. I think the list should focus only on mistresses and alleged mistresses - other women Henry was somehow associated wirth is going to get very long.

Cheers Gogolwold (talk) 12:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Ways to improve Judith GrimesEdit

Hello, Boleyn,

Thank you for creating Judith Grimes.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Hard to understand: it is written as a long description in poor English.

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Kingsif (talk) 01:37, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Kingsif, I just created a redirect years ago, I'm not sure who created the article. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 11:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
This message is automatically generated, it says that I tagged the article. Page curation sends the edit reason to the first user who edited the page, I don't recommend actively replying to these. Kingsif (talk) 13:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

The Saluting MarineEdit

I'm not as frequent of an "Editor" as I used to be, so I've forgotten a lot. There was/is a reference on my account's "Alerts" section, saying that you had questioned the Notability of "The Saluting Marine". Huh.

He has set quite an example that I understand has been followed at various national cemeteries and other relevant locations.

Our own local National Cemetery now typically has one such veteran who salutes the entire day while we civilians pass him by (on relevant federally-observed holidays).

I'd say that's rather relevant.

LP-mn (talk) 22:09, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi, LP-mn, I'm glad to see the article is now in much better shape. I reviewed it for NEw Page Patrol, essentially saying it was OK for inclusion and to be indexed by Google. It had no references at the time, so was marked as unreferenced and that it's notability hadn't been made clear. Hopefully the iprovements have now addressed this. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of MenachemEdit

 

The article Menachem has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Superfluous article based upon an alternate (and less accurate) transliteration of the Hebrew name Menahem (disambiguation) מנחם; both are acceptable (and mostly interchangeable) transliterations of the exact same name and should all be listed in one place.

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Just to be clear, I am proposing that Menachem be redirected to Menahem (disambiguation) after the entire contents are moved/merged there. StonyBrook (talk) 01:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020Edit

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Merger discussion for MenachemEdit

An article that you have been involved in editing—Menachem—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. StonyBrook (talk) 23:09, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

"Bertie Scott" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Bertie Scott. Since you had some involvement with the Bertie Scott redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Jalen Folf (talk) 17:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Kenneth Shine for deletionEdit

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kenneth Shine is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kenneth Shine until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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