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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

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Eliud Kipchoge in 2015
Eliud Kipchoge

How to nominate an itemEdit

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

HeadersEdit

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an itemEdit

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...Edit

  • ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  • ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  • ... accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  • ... comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  • ... oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)


SuggestionsEdit

September 24Edit

Portal:Current events/2018 September 24
Armed conflicts and attacks

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International relations

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September 23Edit

Portal:Current events/2018 September 23
Armed conflicts and attacks
Business and economy

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Law and crime

Sports

(Closed) Sir Michael Atiyah claims to have proven the Riemann hypothesisEdit

Snow Closing good faith nom. If/when this is confirmed as true by independent reliable secondary sources, and assuming article quality is up to scratch, I suspect this would get posted. But we don't post unsubstantiated claims. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Articles: Riemann hypothesis (talk, history) and Michael Atiyah (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Sir Michael Atiyah claims to have proven the Riemann hypothesis
News source(s): Preprint
Nominator: Count Iblis (talk • give credit)

Second article updated, first needs updating

 Count Iblis (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Any proposed solution to problems like this is going to be thoroughly reviewed by the math community to verify if it is true or not. On that confirmation, we should post. --Masem (t) 23:41, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose I've struck my remarks on crack-pottery; more reliable sources [1] confirm that Sir Atiyah is giving a talk on this topic tomorrow. It's absolutely premature to post anything until after the talk. power~enwiki (π, ν) 23:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Wait per Masem. Banedon (talk) 01:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose He has not yet delivered the presentation, let alone had the claim accepted by the mathematics community. A claim of this kind on its own should not be posted. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:29, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

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Maldivian presidential election, 2018Edit

Articles: Maldivian presidential election, 2018 (talk, history) and Ibrahim Mohamed Solih (talk, history)
Blurb: Ibrahim Mohamed Solih is elected president of the Maldives.
News source(s): BBC
Nominator: EternalNomad (talk • give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: Article about the election is in good shape, but the one about Ibrahim Mohamed Solih still needs work. EternalNomad (talk) 23:04, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support -- Even if its small size was a negative consideration, the result has wider geopolitical ramifications that affect the wider Indo-Pacific region. Also comes relatively unexpected as the election was anticipated to be unfree and unfair, so the result represents a bucking of the "authoritarian turn" that has characterised global politics in the past few years. -- Varavour (talk) 15:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose No prose describing the elections themselves, their results, and the effects. Article needs expansion. --Jayron32 15:39, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

RD: Charles K. KaoEdit

Article: Charles K. Kao (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): South China Morning Post
Nominator: Leeyc0 (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Laureate of the Nobel Prize in Physics, pioneer of fibre optics, an important player in modern communications Leeyc0 (Talk) 10:20, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support. Well referenced. Capitalistroadster (talk) 10:39, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Last section (Later Life & Dementia) needs rewrite. Also his death was not even mentioned in the article save in infobox. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment The Honours and awards section has a lot of unsourced listings. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Several of the listed awards lack citations. ―Susmuffin Talk 03:20, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

September 22Edit

Portal:Current events/2018 September 22
Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Science and technology

RD: Mike LabinjoEdit

Article: Mike Labinjo (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian grid iron player. I have fixed up a few of the references. The article isn't perfect but probably good enough - Dumelow (talk) 10:57, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support looks good. ghost 15:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Guangzhou–Shenzhen–Hong Kong Express RailEdit

Nominator's comments: Big story for Hong Kong, some political controversy over this and also a huge infrastructure project, an under-reported aspect of ITN. East Asia is also an under-reported aspect of ITN due to systemic bias. Fairly high quality article, very expansive coverage. Encyclopedic. Colipon+(Talk) 13:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment a little context --LaserLegs (talk) 14:45, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Entire sections are unreferenced. But it seems this story is getting much more coverage worldwide than the I95. Still, far from ready by ITN standards. --Tone 14:58, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Of course a 2,230 km 350 kph train line capable of 380 (longest high speed line in the world) is more impressive than a 3,100km motorway where you can't exceed ~137 without the police fining you. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Tentative support: I haven't been following these news, and I was pleasantly surprised. This is quite a major development; article quality at the moment is indeed far from ready, let me see if I can have a shot at it. Alex Shih (talk) 19:34, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - Massive infrastructural news and a highly noteworthy achievement. Posting is most certainly warranted as this is an underrepresented region on ITN. WaltCip (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
If you could just let me know where the WP:ITN criteria stipulates favoring an "underrepresented region" that'd be great. I'm wondering what region, specifically, and what the criteria for "under-represented" is, given the Philippines land slide currently in the box, and the SE Asian stories recently in the box: a Japanese earthquake, an Indian supreme court ruling, typhoon Mangkhut, the Pakistani president, the Reuters journalists in Myanmar, typhoon Jebi, and a hotel fire in Harbin. Indeed, it would appear this region is perhaps over-represented? Who's to say without criteria, so just let me know what those are please. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
In defense of SE Asian countries, the only time anyone reads about these in ITN is during an 1) election, 2) disaster. That's it, barring unforeseen planets aligning and people here supporting the ASEAN Football Championship later this year. We even have ITNR items for countries such as Ireland (2, in fact!), while Singapore, a country that is more populous than the former, has a big fat zero ITNR items. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:07, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support incredible project Openlydialectic (talk) 22:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose on refs. Also, this seems to be a rather small section of a larger system that has been open for years. The political element may make it blurb-worthy, but lets not goose the numbers to make this look like a bigger project than it is. ghost 11:36, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

RD: Edna MolewaEdit

Article: Edna Molewa (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): News 24
Nominator: EternalNomad (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African politician; article is comprehensive and mostly well-sourced. EternalNomad (talk) 21:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Oppose Some sentences remain unsourced. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 04:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. Article is well-sourced. 07:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Overall, the sourcing is adequate for ITN. Article is well-written. AusLondonder (talk) 10:58, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Wait until the {{fact}} tags have been addressed. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Don't see the fact tags; maybe fixed? There is one CN left but it does not seem substantial. ghost 16:07, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) Interstate 95 completedEdit

No consensus to post. Instead, consider getting Pennsylvania Turnpike to a GA and then to Main page as DYK. --Tone 12:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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Articles: Interstate 95 (talk, history) and Pennsylvania Turnpike/Interstate 95 Interchange Project (talk, history)
Blurb: ​With the completion of part of the Pennsylvania Turnpike/Interstate 95 Interchange Project , Interstate 95 is completed after 62 years, the last project to be financed under the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, which established the Interstate Highway System.
News source(s): Levittown Now, Federal Highway Administration
Nominator: Imzadi1979 (talk • give credit)
Updater: Cards84664 (talk • give credit)
Other updaters: Famartin (talk • give credit)

Both articles updated

 Imzadi 1979  17:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: Levittown Now confirms that the ramps opened this earlier this morning. Other sources such as The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Bucks County Courier Times, WPVI-TV and KYW (AM) reported the project completion's significance earlier this week in announcing the scheduled opening. FHWA confirms that this is the last project to be completed under the auspices of the 1956 legislation. Imzadi 1979  18:02, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment for those wondering why this is significant, I-95 facilitates 40% of the United States' GDP and serves 110 million people. [2] Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:08, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support this isn't just any highway opening, but arguably the most significant one in the US. --Rschen7754 18:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose nice bit of road trivia but not much more. See DYK. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
This is the most important motorway in the US and one of the most important in the world, serving (as mentioned before) 110 million people, Canada's most important highway, Harvard, the UN and New York (the only city that rivals London in importance), the capital of the world's most powerful country, 15 states and the so called Capital of Latin America (Miami, 71% Latin Americans, metro population 6 or 7 million). It has the busiest motor bridge in the world, most lanes on a bridge in the world (14 non-shoulder lanes on 2 floors) and approaching New York from the south it reaches 14 lanes and 8 shoulders with quadruple carriageways (and 2 jumbo jet runways hug the 22 lanes for awhile which is pretty cool). Also nearby are Yale, Princeton, Columbia University, 6 of 8 Ivy League unis, site of declaring independence from you (no hard feelings), the capital of the slave country..
At over 3,000 kilometers it's so long it starts where -41°C and 1.8 meters of snow depth and 4.2 meters snow in a year happens and ends in the tropics south of some Bahamas. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:34, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
And the law of 1956 was to build 41,000 miles of motorway with minimum 2 lanes in each direction which ended up costing 500 billion today dollars. Even Canada and Australia are mostly 1 lane in each direction when you cross the country cause Interstate highway standards are expensive. (Germany has much better roads but they have 5.5 times higher population density) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
@Sagittarian Milky Way: New York is "the only city that rivals London in importance"? The U.S. is the "world's most powerful country"? Are you high? London is "only rivalled by New York"? What about Beijing? Moscow? Berlin? Paris? Given Britain is being absolutely screwed right this minute in negotiations with the EU, the "importance" of London is not apparent right now. You do realise we aren't in the Age of Discovery anymore and the British Empire has been dead for literally decades? When you have to talk such delusional anglocentric bullshit to support your argument you serve only to discredit them. AusLondonder (talk) 06:18, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Believe it or not AusLondonder, back in 1970s, historians like Correlli Barnett wrote books on the decline of Britain. None imagined how much further it still had to go. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Global city. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 12:37, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Indeed, I see a lot of interesting trivia there, but nothing that sways me from oppose. Get it to GA or FA and go to the main page some other way. It's not "in the news" because it's not really that newsworthy. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Britain is declining to barely match the global power of a nation like Italy. Suggesting that if it wasn't for New York City London would be the "unrivalled" capital of the world would make even the staunchest Eurosceptic Little Englander blush. AusLondonder (talk) 10:56, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Confusing prose like "yet its completion is still dependent on a project in Pennsylvania and New Jersey that was finished in September 22, 2018" (is it completed or isn't it?) and lots of unsourced sections. If the most significant source we've got is Levitton Now (as opposed to, say, the New York Times or the Washington Post) then I don't think it indicates worldwide significance. As TRM says, take it to DYK. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:35, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
    • @Ritchie333: as noted above, Levittown Now is only confirming the actual opening this morning. The other press covered the dedication yesterday with the amorphous "will open tomorrow" style of wording, which as we should know, didn't guarantee that the barricades on the unopened ramps would actually come down as planned. I did find a few sentences that needed updating, and those have been changed. Other coverage came in major media outlets earlier this year in anticipation of today, such as The Atlantic back in January, Bloomberg (linked by The Ed17), [: https://www.fastcompany.com/90221669/interstate-95-is-finally-finished-and-so-is-our-era-of-ambitious-infrastructure-projects Fast Company] ("Interstate 95 is finally finished—and so is our era of ambitious infrastructure projects"), so this isn't not getting major press. More cites coming in the article for the RD sections totally unrelated to what happened today as well. Imzadi 1979  19:08, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Surely if it was that big a deal, we'd see Trump gobbing off on Twitter about "Hey, we got I-95 completed, while Hillary and Obama couldn't even get started! SAD!" or something like that.... (or perhaps he does, I don't read his feed for my own sanity) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 00:08, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose – On lack of general significance. Sca (talk) 20:23, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment I'd support this in terms of significance, we've posted other rail line and freeway stories, I-95 is the big dog on the eastern seaboard -- the referencing is not up to scratch for MP feature, however. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose - fairly interesting, but better suited to DYK then ITN in my view. Stormy clouds (talk) 20:50, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support – As the last section of the original Interstate Highway System, which has had a profound impact on the United States and influenced similar systems globally, interest can be drawn from beyond the niche of road scholars. (Support comes with the caveat that the referencing in I-95's article is improved) SounderBruce 01:02, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose No demonstration of widespread coverage in non-U.S. sources. As to LaserLegs' WP:OSE remark, we posted the opening of the Wuhan–Guangzhou high-speed railway in December 2009 because it was both a new world record for commercial train service and a landmark in China Railway High-speed history itself, being the first cross-regional HSR line. The only thing "new" with the completion of I-95 is the relevant section in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 01:29, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose excessive coverage of local New Jersey road construction. "Completed" borders on puffery here. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:50, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment. This is a significant infrastructure project but is struggling to attract attention in the United States. Unfortunately not suitable for DYK as it is not a new article or been substantially increased in size. Capitalistroadster (talk) 03:05, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
    No, Interstate 95 is ineligible for DYK because it was featured on DYK back in 2013, but you could take Pennsylvania Turnpike/Interstate 95 Interchange Project to GA and then run it on DYK. That's what GA is for. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Throw Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads a bone. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose No global significance. Roads serving enormous populations in India and China open practically every day. Barely actually "in the news", even in the U.S. AusLondonder (talk) 10:52, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Chas HodgesEdit

Article: Chas Hodges (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC News
Nominator and updater: Ritchie333 (talk • give credit)
Other updaters: Michig (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: That's "Chas out of Chas & Dave" for those who aren't sure. Personally I prefer Green Bullfrog on which he plays some fine bass alongside Deep Purple's Ritchie Blackmore and Ian Paice and Procol Harum's Matthew Fisher ..... but to everyone else, it's "rabbit, rabbit, rabbit, rabbit" Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support - got edit conflicted nominating this, but as Ritchie333 has put the work in he deserves the credit anyway. Article has had recent improvement and tags are now gone. Good to go. Mjroots (talk) 15:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Bibliography section doesn't have source. "Bibliography" typifies quirkiness of English; so due to lack of source we've to even ask, are those books by him or about him? Either way they need source before this see Mainpage. –Ammarpad (talk) 15:44, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
It's pretty much the results window from typing "Chas Hodges" into Google Books ... but inline citations added nonetheless. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:54, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) Iranian military parade attackEdit

Article: 2018 Ahvaz military parade attack (talk, history)
Blurb: ​At least 29 people are killed during an attack at the Iranian military parade.
News source(s): CNN, al-arabiya
Nominator: Brandmeister (talk • give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Developing story, needs updating. Brandmeistertalk 12:15, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support in principlepending article expansion. Unusual for Iran. Possibly an indicator of political unrest. Sca (talk) 13:28, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - Article looks developed for now. Sherenk1 (talk) 13:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Quite not there, it's basically a stub. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support support, basic info is there, no doubt about notability Openlydialectic (talk) 14:22, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Nobody talk of notability. It's still in stubby state. I just removed large copyvio further shrinking it. –Ammarpad (talk) 16:43, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support A significant and developing event. --Mhhossein talk 16:59, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose if nine sentences (including two in the lead) is all we have to say about this event, it's either (a) not ready or (b) not newsworthy or (c) both. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak Support it's stubby, WP:RS can't agree on the details right now. The targets and venue are significant, no random act of violence, or arson, or sinking here. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:31, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak support Significant but stub. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 04:21, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support: firing to civilian, kiling children, reporting by many reliable sources.Saff V. (talk) 06:14, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support: Per nominator.--Seyyed(t-c) 09:11, 23 September 2018 (UTC) / Pikazilla (talk) 11:16, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support: notable event. Substantial work was done on the article, although more eyes (and pens) are welcome. Wakari07 (talk) 14:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Still rather thin. Rouhani’s allegation of U.S. responsibility could be added. Sca (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
It's about the same as Khamenei's. Did you see Rudy Giuliani's [3]? Wakari07 (talk) 16:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

Vatican announces deal with China on bishop appointmentsEdit

Article: Catholic Church in China (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The Holy See approves Catholic bishops appointed by the Communist Party of China
Alternative blurb: ​The Vatican approves Catholic bishops appointed by the Communist Party of China
Alternative blurb II: Catholic bishops appointed by the Communist Party of China are approved by the Holy See
Alternative blurb III: Catholic bishops appointed by the Communist Party of China are approved by the Vatican
News source(s): Reuters, Associated Press
Nominator: Thunderforge (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: The most populous religion in the world has made a landmark deal with the government of the most populous country in the world. Thunderforge (talk) 00:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Comment There's currently an error in the nom's comment. When I was a child over half a century ago Catholicism was indeed "the most populous religion in the world", but it got overtaken by Islam a long time ago, so now Christianity is "the most populous religion in the world". Incidentally, Christianity should supposedly "soon" (whatever that means) be overtaken by Islam, and China by India. Tlhslobus (talk) 10:35, 24 September 2018 (UTC) Needs target We can't evaluate the nom without a target. It seems unlikely this event would be important enough for any of the three articles linked. ghost 15:36, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

September 21Edit

Portal:Current events/2018 September 21
Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment
  • The government of Nigeria announces that 61 people have died and 50 others have been hospitalized from a cholera outbreak in Yobe. (Xinhua)

Law and crime
  • A woman goes on a stabbing rampage in Queens, New York City, injuring five, including three infants. All are in stable condition. (CNN)

Politics and elections

Science and technology

(Posted) RD: Vitaliy MasolEdit

Article: Vitaliy Masol (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former prime minister of Ukraine. Bit short, I will look to expand - Dumelow (talk) 13:37, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment – Suggest article include date of death. Sca (talk) 13:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - Article is now sourced, including deathdate. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. Article fully sourced. Capitalistroadster (talk) 19:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
→ Looks OK for RD. Sca (talk) 20:05, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • support - And ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support I added a source that states he died specifically on 21 September, which seemed to be absent in the other sources. Marking as ready. Hrodvarsson (talk) 00:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Good work! --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:47, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:59, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) Death of Trần Đại QuangEdit

Page blanked as a copyright violation. No content to consider.--WaltCip (talk) 14:17, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Trần Đại Quang (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Vietnamese president Trần Đại Quang dies aged 61.
News source(s): BBC
Nominator: EternalNomad (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC and further discussion, the nomination of any individual human, animal or other biological organism with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article. See also WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: What a huge shocker... EternalNomad (talk) 05:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality. The death of a sitting head of state while they held office is definitely blurb material, but the article has some unsourced paragraphs and the like. --Masem (t) 05:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Yeah.. sitting head of state, definitely. I'll try some cleanup. –Ammarpad (talk) 06:44, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak Support He is only technically the head of state. Vietnam is a communist country, and all power is concentrated in the hands of Nguyễn Phú Trọng who is the general secretary. Plus, the quality of the article is not all that good. Openlydialectic (talk) 07:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    Vietnam is ruled by a triumvirate of the GenSec, PM, and President. The balance of power vary based on who's in power, but the GenSec doesn't have "all power". DHN (talk) 08:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    >Vietnam is ruled by a triumvirate of the GenSec, PM, and President.[citation needed] Openlydialectic (talk) 12:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    Source: "Vietnam has no paramount ruler and is officially led by a triumvirate of president, prime minister and Communist Party chief, although experts say the presidency is more ceremonial than the other posts." DHN (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    Thank you. Openlydialectic (talk) 22:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    This is certainly a weight against significance, so if his article was a postmortem stub I'd be opposed. As it is now, I think we should post this when quality issues are addressed. ghost 12:00, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. Possible blurb material as it will impact the balance of power and there has been a cloud over his health for some time. Some of the honours appear to be unreferenced which is the main concern. Capitalistroadster (talk) 08:11, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Change to oppose on article quality issues.
  • RD only – Marginal notability. Sca (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Referencing is quite poor. Far too many paragraphs have only a single ref for multiple claims of fact and some have none at all. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:12, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • RD only the very first paragraph of this article contains the statement that someone else was actually the de facto leader of Vietnam, so I don't think we should post this just because he was technically the head of state. Lepricavark (talk) 15:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    That is pure speculation. The fact of the matter is he was the sitting head of state. While the role is ceremonial much like the role in parliamentary systems, he is actually probably more powerful than the president in those countries, since "Vietnam is led by a triumvirate of president, prime minister and Communist Party chief". DHN (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    It sounds like he was the ceremonial head of state while the power actually rested elsewhere. So no, I am not changing my mind. Lepricavark (talk) 18:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    Would the same then hold true for the queen of England for example? She is a ceremonial head of state and has little to no power, perhaps even less power than this office affords. No blurb for her either on death or would that be different for some reason? 85.16.229.157 (talk) 19:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
    Obviously that would be different, for the blindingly obvious reason that QE2 is the head of state of sixteen countries, not to mention the former head of state of sixteen more, the longest-reigning British monarch (which goes back over 1,100 years), is one of the most recognised people in the world ... but you know all that. It's a ridiculous comparison. Black Kite (talk) 20:11, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • RD only - And ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Strong Oppose. Not well enough sourced, a lot of it is just bullet points ... peacock writing ("He is very well known for his hard work, dedication, composure and calm qualities"), general grammar and writing issues, but more importantly I picked a random sentence (" Welcoming Israeli Ambassador Nadav Eshcar, President Quang expressed his delight over the sound development of co-operative ties between the two countries, as demonstrated by President Reuven Ruvi Rivlin’s State visit to Vietnam in March") only to find that it's a straight copy from this news article. Elsewhere, "Tran Dai Quang made the statement at a meeting with a delegation of 87 outstanding HCMCYU members who won the Ly Tu Trong Award 2018 in Hanoi" is a straight copy from here but actually makes no sense whatsoever because the previous sentence in the news article hasn't been included (the question is "What statement?"). There is also copying and/or close paraphrasing from here, here, etc. etc. Copyvios on the main page - ain't happening. Black Kite (talk) 20:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose based on quality. The "Education" and "Political career" sections are bad but fairly easily fixable. "Minister of Public Security" and "Presidency" are a list of press-clippings; someone familiar with Vietnamese politics will need to edit those down. The whole thing has an ESL tone to it as well. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Note I have blanked the article as a copyright violation, which the vast majority of it is. Black Kite (talk) 20:33, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) International relationsEdit

WP:SNOW --Tone 14:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Brexit negotiations (talk, history)
Blurb: Prime Minister Theresa May says negotiations are "at an impasse" following yesterday's European Union leaders' meeting in Salzburg.
News source(s): ITV
Nominator: The Vintage Feminist (talk • give credit)

 The Vintage Feminist (talk) 13:47, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose target article is not even in blurb, target article does not mention this information. --Jayron32 13:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose Nothing yet to affect the progress of Brexit. --Masem (t) 13:55, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) Oppose per Jayron and also unclear significance. Does this mean Brexit is off? A "Hard Brexit"? Just a negotiating tactic? – Muboshgu (talk) 13:55, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose – More Brexit blather. Sca (talk) 13:57, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

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September 20Edit

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RD: K-Run's Park Me In FirstEdit

Article: K-Run's Park Me In First (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Fox Baltimore
Nominator: Fuebaey (talk • give credit)

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 Fuebaey (talk) 14:52, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment: The date of death is not referenced and is not mentioned in the text of the article. Otherwise it looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 14:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Is the dog actually dead? There seems to be no source in the article that supports that claim. Also a procedural question - the dog is referred to, thoughout the article, by it's alternative name "Uno". Would this be a better name to use for the RD item? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:12, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • This is from the Associated Press and is the first reference in the article - looks reliable. The death does need to be added to the main body of the article though, not just the infobox.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Ah yes, I see it now, thanks. Is there any policy on having to use full names at RD, for dogs or for people? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:26, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • At first I couldn't find the actual date of death mentioned in that Fox article but see it is buried away in one of the photo captions - Dumelow (talk) 15:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • @Martinevans123: I don't recall seeing a show dog at ITN/C before - we've had racehorses and the occasional mayor of a small town, but if this were posted we might go with the shorter name for space reasons - I don't think there'a any rule against piping it.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks. That Fox News article mentions his full name, but calls him Uno. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:46, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I believe that reader recognition and brevity are the interests at hand in picking the name. It would seem Uno is not an option here, but I don't think we can lop off the kennel either. Absent a better solution, I suggest ignoring the nom until it goes stale. ghost 15:52, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • That seems unnecessary. I'm sure an admin could figure something out.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:57, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I was just being facetious. And an admin did! "Uno (dog)" is a perfect solution. ghost 16:13, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I wonder could you explain why Uno is "not an option here"? As far as recognition is concerned, I'd suggest that, for most readers, both would be equally unrecognizable. One just takes up a lot more space. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I was thinking the dog's common name would not be known to the general public. If that is not true, Uno would certainly be fine. ghost 16:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Notwithstanding the odd title the article appears to be adequately referenced and I can't see a reason for not supporting.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:57, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Article is of sufficient depth and is well referenced. Death is reported in reliable sources. --Jayron32 15:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Yes, but I thought the article update requirement meant they should be used to support a clear prose statement somewhere in the article? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • What is unclear about the prose statement "Uno died, at the age of 13, of cancer on September 20, 2018." It has been in the article since 15:29, September 24, 2018. --Jayron32 16:27, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I would suggest nothing. I must have missed that addition, which was made about an hour before you posted. Thanks User:Fuebaey, for adding it. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:12, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Suggesting Uno (dog). Would go with the full name on April 1 because of the name but not on a regular day. If I see some support for this suggestion, ready to post. --Tone 16:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
I would be fine with that suggestion.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support this is good to go but suggest unless the page is moved because it's agreed Uno is the common name, we should stick with the article title. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:13, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Is that a matter of preference or policy? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • It seems to me that it's a matter of common sense. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:24, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Moving the article to the common name seems reasonable. I'll wait with posting until we decide what to do. --Tone 16:52, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I don't care either way (I oppose animal RDs generally), but this is getting real close to stale, if that matters at all. ghost 17:29, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) MV Nyerere sinkingEdit

Article: MV Nyerere sinking (talk, history)
Blurb: A boat capsizes on Lake Victoria killing more than one hundred.
News source(s): BBC News, NBC News, Reuters
Nominator: Fuebaey (talk • give credit)
Updater: Stormy clouds (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Could do with expansion. Fuebaey (talk) 13:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

  • 'Oppose...' for now. Stub. Sca (talk) 13:58, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment I see the article is getting expanded, looks sufficient to me now, though more work is always welcome. --Tone 14:27, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support, the article is no longer a stub and the article looks to be in good-enough condition. -- Tavix (talk) 15:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
→ Text is up to 270 words, which still seems minimal for an incident that caused at least 136 deaths and possibly many more. – Sca (talk) 15:41, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak Support It's been expanded and is now minimally sufficient for posting. Likewise referencing is adequate. Hopefully work will continue. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak Support – Ditto. Notable disaster. Sca (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - And seems ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 20:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - after some copy-editing, expansion and additional referencing, this seems ready to go. Significance goes without saying. Stormy clouds (talk) 23:33, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:55, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment It is customary to include some information about the location of an event in blurbs. May I suggest something like "Tanzanian ferry MV Nyerere capsizes..."? It makes more sense to me than "a boat". Isa (talk) 05:52, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
    • I did change "boat" to "ferry" when I posted, but adding the location is a great idea that Stephen has done. Thanks all! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 16:44, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Inge FeltrinelliEdit

Article: Inge Feltrinelli (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Der Tagesspiegel
Nominator and updater: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: The Italian photographer. I have made sure every paragraph is sourced and tracked down as many ISBNs for the bibliography, but some ISBNs are still missing. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 23:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support. Referenced article. 01:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Not that good, but not that bad either. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:57, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • weak support - not great. But adequate.BabbaQ (talk) 20:11, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak support Good on reference, but could use expansion. Good though. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 02:48, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:00, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) Naga City, Cebu landslideEdit

Article: 2018 Naga, Cebu landslide (talk, history)
Blurb: ​A landslide cause by days of heavy rainfall in Naga, Cebu in the Philippines, killing at least 29 and more than 50 others are missing.
Alternative blurb: ​A massive landslide triggered by several days of heavy rainfall in Naga, Cebu in the Philippines, kills at least 29 and more than 50 others are missing
News source(s): ion/212472-death-toll-naga-cebu-landslide-september-21-2018 (Rappler) (Philippine Daily Inquirer)
Nominator: BSrap (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: This one is a little bit of big news, at least 30 deaths. BSrap (talk) 12:06, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Weak support Barely above a stub, but still on the right side of the line IMHO, well referenced. --Jayron32 13:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. This one is fine. There really isn't a whole lot to say about the event itself, but it is still a significant story due to the deaths. No glaring omissions or other major problems with the article. -- Tavix (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - per above. Ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 20:12, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support This looks okay. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:44, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 18:04, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

September 19Edit

Portal:Current events/2018 September 19
Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents
  • Hurricane Florence
    • The death toll rises to 37 after two mental health patients died when the police van in which they were being transported got caught in floodwaters. (BBC)
  • Storm Ali
    • Two people are killed by Storm Ali as it brings winds of up to 160 kilometres per hour (99 mph) in Ireland. (BBC)

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(Posted) RD: Marilyn LloydEdit

Article: Marilyn Lloyd (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Chattanooga Times Free Press, Washington Post
Nominator: Fuebaey (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: American politician. Fuebaey (talk) 18:59, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bunny CarrEdit

Article: Bunny Carr (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Irish TV presenter. I am working to expand it, but it is in reasonable condition - Dumelow (talk) 14:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

I added everything I could find in the obituaries. Hopefully it is now up to scratch - Dumelow (talk) 18:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - indeed, ready for posting.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - Good sources, redlinks removed, and this article should be ready for RD. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 23:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I have marked this one as ready based on the above - Dumelow (talk) 12:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted. --Jayron32 13:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Geta BrătescuEdit

Older than earliest RD at signature time. (WP:NAC) FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Geta Brătescu (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Apollo
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: The Romanian artist. Article is well-sourced but sections 2, 3, and 4 might have to be dealt with. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 01:00, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Why even nomimate articles that are not ready. People will simply oppose.BabbaQ (talk) 06:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Not yet opposing, but I've to disagree, it isn't "well sourced." –Ammarpad (talk) 08:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose How is this article "well-sourced?" The "Writings" section has no sources. ―Susmuffin Talk 13:00, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose referencing is very much substandard; most of the biography section has no clear sources, the writing section has none at all, etc. --Jayron32 16:13, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Jon BurgeEdit

Article: Jon Burge (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Nominator: TDKR Chicago 101 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Article has Good Article status and is overall well sourced --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Comment: Whilst a good article there are a couple of points (and a whole paragraph) that need citing and there is an "as of June 2008" that could use updating. I have tagged the relevant passages - Dumelow (talk) 21:06, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Good work TDKR Chicago 101. There is one paragraph left uncited, the first one of the "Culture of violence" section. Otherwise I would support - Dumelow (talk) 22:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
@Dumelow:: Fixed--TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 22:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I had logged off for the day. Just to confirm my post-posting support on this one - Dumelow (talk) 06:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment Could the lead be shortened/restructured? 8 paragraphs (fair enough some of them are very short) is excessive. Hrodvarsson (talk) 22:46, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I re-added a bit of detail that you removed, but the number of paragraphs is now 4, thanks. I don't think there are other issues, so I support. Hrodvarsson (talk) 23:23, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dave Barrett (journalist)Edit

Article: Dave Barrett (journalist) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Variety
Nominator: Strikerforce (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Award winning journalist that was the host of the evening edition of the CBS World News Roundup. Article will need expanding. StrikerforceTalk 20:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

  • As I said, the article will need expanding. I was very surprised not to find one about him. I just don't have the time today to do more than I already have. StrikerforceTalk 20:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Sorry, was I supposed to not comment here until you were personally ready? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • I wasn't implying that. I was just putting it out there that the article will be longer soon enough and that you may want to reconsider your !vote at that time. StrikerforceTalk 20:25, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Indeed, I often reconsider my position, and I have this page watchlisted and contribute regularly. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Stub. – Sca (talk) 21:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose Stub but I acknowledge nominator's need to expand. Also there are three sections with only one sentence each. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 23:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Stub. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment I have expanded the article. Based on the criteria for such, I believe that it meets "C" class and have assessed it as such. Happy to hear suggestions for improvement. Pinging @The Rambling Man:, @Sca:, @FoxyGrampa75:, and @TDKR Chicago 101: for additional consideration. StrikerforceTalk 17:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support. Referencing work has now been done. Well done Strikerforce. Capitalistroadster (talk) 22:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - per improvements. Ready for posting.BabbaQ (talk) 23:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted. --Jayron32 13:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Arthur Mitchell (dancer)Edit

Article: Arthur Mitchell (dancer) (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): New York Times
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: The African-American dancer. Two tags in the "Career at New York City Ballet" section but should be otherwise good. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:40, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Oppose more than just the tags to take care of. Not good enough for a BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose This article does not have enough inline citations. ―Susmuffin Talk 12:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment I used the obituary more. Please mark where you think a citation is needed. It would be a shame not to mention such a person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I added citations to the awards. If we can't source the honorary doctors, we could skip them for now. Out for the day. The more I read about him, the more I think he deserves a blurb, - countering bias. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support RD for its current quality. I would currently oppose a blurb, in part because of the article's quality. Regardless of its quality, I do not know if this guy's significance warrants a blurb, though his death is indeed in international news and definitely makes an interesting headline (per point 3 and 4 of the ITN purpose). ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Looks ok.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - ready for posting now.BabbaQ (talk) 23:26, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted --Jayron32 13:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) RD: Denis NordenEdit

Withdrawn by nominator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Denis Norden (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC News
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: English comedy writer. Fix refimprove tag. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 04:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose with regret. Poor article. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:20, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. I wanted to nominate this last night but the referencing was too far below acceptable standards. I posted a tag on it which I see others have added to. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) 2018 China–United States trade warEdit

I don't foresee consensus being obtained for posting this. 331dot (talk) 21:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: 2018 China–United States trade war (talk, history)
Blurb: ​China and the United States impose tariffs on a combined $260 billion worth of each others' goods amidst an ongoing trade war
News source(s): [4][5] etc
Nominator: Banedon (talk • give credit)
Updater: Murchison-Eye (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: With the US having threatened further tariffs if China retaliates (which they just did), this looks like it could be ongoing for a while. Banedon (talk) 01:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose, this is a very slow moving, long-term story not even suited for ongoing because we have no idea when it will be resolved and is not the type of story that has daily happened. Further, The $260B appears to be the sum of the US's tariffs over three different points this year, not one mass sum, and that doesn't include anything China may have imposed. --Masem (t) 01:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
The $260B in this suggestion refers to the $200B US tariffs and the $60B Chinese retaliation from the past 2 days. Coincidentally this does match the total US tariffs this year. Murchison-Eye (talk) 01:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose we can’t post every single action and retaliation of the trade war onto ITN. SamaranEmerald (talk) 02:11, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
    Absolutely true, but we should consider the worthiness of singular events within a larger ongoing event. We've posted a great many items to ITN about the Syrian Civil War, for example. 260B is a big number, I've no idea if it's significant in this context. ghost 13:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support decent article, story is certainly "in the news", the trade war involves the worlds two largest economies, impact felt on both sides, and unlike a bi-lateral trade agreement, this is a tit-for-tat application of tariffs imposed (on the U.S. side at least) with dubious legality. Bolsonaro was stabbed two weeks ago, I think it's ok for that blurb to roll off. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose as Masem mentions above, this is a slow story about heated rhetoric, effects are notable and will definitely lead to long-term consequences in the long run, but ultimately this is more-or-less a repeat of similar announcements and counter-attacks made by the two world powers in the previous months. Hornetzilla78 (talk) 18:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose this is small potatoes and we really don't need to cover each and every minuscule change that Trump implements at ITN. Honestly. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Niche story for economists to argue over and speculate. No impact on general readers, not ITN worthy.. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Well general readers in the USA (by far the largest share of en-wiki readers) actually are impacted, by 10%, on goods imported from China. The Chinese are impacted too, since ... --LaserLegs (talk) 21:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Sure, prices just went up 10% today, of course they did!! And you have no idea how this impacts the Chinese. So I'd stop this speculative line. It's getting to be mildly embarrassing. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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September 18Edit

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(Closed) RD: Robert VenturiEdit

Older than earliest RD at signature time. (WP:NAC) FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Robert Venturi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The New York Times The Architects Newspaper
Nominator: Xwejnusgozo (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Influential architect Xwejnusgozo (talk) 11:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose, with regret. Definitely influential, but the article isn't in good enough shape for the main page. It would be tricky to not only fill in citations for the body of the article, but also to cite all of the structures that he built. Teemu08 (talk) 14:35, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: David DiChieraEdit

Withdrawn by nominator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: David DiChiera (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: The opera manager. Article needs a few more sources but looks good. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose - several sections completely unsourced. Ping me if it will be improved.BabbaQ (talk) 16:55, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose not good enough for a BLP. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:21, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Marceline Loridan-IvensEdit

Withdrawn by nominator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Marceline Loridan-Ivens (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): France 24
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: The French writer. Could use expansion from the French article. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 04:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Stub. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose one sentence? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:09, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose This article only has two sentences of content. ―Susmuffin Talk 07:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment This was previously closed per WP:SNOW but has been reopened because it has been de-stubbed by expanding from the French article. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 14:57, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep - Nothing special but reaches the minimum level for inclusion. Ready to go.BabbaQ (talk) 16:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment: Good work expanding this FoxyGrampa75. I think it needs just a little more to get it over the line. It is missing references for two passages in the biography section and there are no references for the filmography or awards sections. The grammar could do a check over too: "who emigrated to France since 1919"; " Edgar Morin casted her in the film Chronique d'un été"; "She assisted her in her work and co-directed some of his films". There is also no mention of her death in the article aside from the date in brackets at the top - Dumelow (talk) 17:27, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose A lot of issues. Multiple unreferenced sections and unsourced statements in referenced ones. Reference to unreliable French Wikipedia everywhere and incomplete references like "Voir, Klarsfeld, 2012.". I commend whoever destubbed it, but it's not yet ready. –Ammarpad (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment I have added some improvements to the article -- [6]. is there anything else to take care of, and do I have to delink the redlinks? FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 23:13, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Filmography and Awards need referencing, especially where there is no article. Red links are not a problem. Stephen 02:06, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I can't find more info about the incomplete reference I said. I hope it was not just copied directly from French Wikipedia. –Ammarpad (talk) 08:14, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Steve AdlardEdit

Withdrawn by nominator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Steve Adlard (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): JS Online
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: English footballer. Currently a stub. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 04:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Yes it is a stub, but not as bad as Marceline Loridan-Ivens, nonetheless needs expanding. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:09, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose stub. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:10, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose This article barely established the importance of its subject; it is far too short to be placed on the Main Page. ―Susmuffin Talk 07:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Stub. Sca (talk) 13:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Jean PiatEdit

Withdrawn by nominator. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Jean Piat (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Le Figaro
Nominator: FoxyGrampa75 (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: French actor. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 04:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article has no sources not even a reference section. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:11, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose BLP violation hell. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:10, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose This article has no sources whatsoever. ―Susmuffin Talk 07:19, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Text = 100-word stub. Sca (talk) 13:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Closed) RD: Norifumi YamamotoEdit

Older than earliest RD at signature time. (WP:NAC) FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: Norifumi Yamamoto (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/sport/mixed-martial-arts/45561100
Nominator: Ginfners (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Mixed Martial Artist that was at one point considered among the best pound-for-pound in the world, and a huge star in Japan in his prime. Might need expansion to convey his cultural impact? Ginfners (talk) 17:20, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose - for now. Several sections without sources.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:17, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article needs reference work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:10, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose needs refs. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:11, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose There are several sections that lack references. ―Susmuffin Talk 07:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

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September 17Edit

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(Posted) RD: Celia Barquin ArozamenaEdit

Article: Celia Barquín Arozamena (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Guardian
Nominator: Pawnkingthree (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Just created so still has a stub tag - will need expansion. Subjects meets WP:NGOLFPawnkingthree (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support article is fully referenced. While it is a new article, the SNG is clearly met, and there is significant coverage. power~enwiki (π, ν) 16:22, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support - good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 18:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Looks fine. Marking as ready. Mamyles (talk) 20:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posting. --Tone 22:11, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

(Closed) 70th Primetime Emmy AwardsEdit

Withdrawing/closing. Clearly not getting support and no work has been done on the article. However, I will initiate an ITNR discussion on this. --Masem (t) 02:27, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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Article: 70th Primetime Emmy Awards (talk, history)
Blurb: ​In television, "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" wins Best Comedy and "Game of Thrones" wins Best Drama at the 70th Primetime Emmy Awards.
News source(s): THR
Nominator: Masem (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.

Nominator's comments: More likely can be written about the ceremonies (I did not watch, but thre's usually an "in memorandum" sequence, and those types of details, and just checking news headlines there was a marriage proposal by one of the winners. That should be summarized like we do with sporting events) Masem (t) 05:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment no prose, no good. Expect a wall of "Oppose - No prose" below from people piling on. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment Have a look at last year's article, which contains a nice summary in the intro. Aiming for something like that :) --Tone 12:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose - The Emmy's, Grammy's, and their ilk are fast approaching irrelevancy.--WaltCip (talk) 13:34, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
    If they're, then propose removing them at the right venue. In the meantime, this is ITN/R and we've to accept that. –Ammarpad (talk) 13:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
    I will, as I have done the same time each year for the past three years for these navel-gazing award shows. Each year they have received substandard updates and failed to be posted. This combined with their steadily declining viewership simply asserts to me their lack of relevance.--WaltCip (talk) 01:59, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
    If attempts to get it removed from ITNR have failed three years in a row, that would seem to show that there is even less excuse for raising non-quality objections to this ITNR item here.Tlhslobus (talk) 03:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose per LaserLegs. Article quality is substandard. There is zero prose synopsis of the ceremony, the nominations, the awards, analysis, etc. It's just a bunch of tables with no context. --Jayron32 13:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose 674 bytes of character prose. Not even close. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Per Jayron. (And I agree with Walt: Entertainment fluff.) Sca (talk) 14:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose the article is virtually just skin and bones in terms of content: just a standard introductory paragraph and a table of the awards and winners. Hornetzilla78 (talk) 18:38, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose per WaltCip. Just not that important anymore. Lepricavark (talk) 01:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Both your !vote and WaltCip's should presumably be ignored as opposing an ITNR item on grounds other than quality.Tlhslobus (talk) 03:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
But you aren't exactly ignoring our !votes, are you? Since you haven't provided any evidence for your claim, I would have to take a look at ITNR to see whether it disallows such opposes. And frankly, I don't care if it does. My !vote stands. Lepricavark (talk) 11:53, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
This is ITNR and as such should not be opposed on the merits. If you feel it should not be ITNR, please propose its removal at the ITNR talk page. 331dot (talk) 23:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
I've taken a look at WP:ITN/R. The box at the very top of the page labels it a guideline, not a policy, and explicitly allows for "occasional exceptions." That quoted phrase is wikilinked to WP:IAR. My !vote is valid. Lepricavark (talk) 01:07, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Your argument to not post is that the awards as a whole are not that important anymore. While there may be validity in that, that is not discussing this specific instance, but instead the class as a whole. That argument goes to ITNR. --Masem (t) 01:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
In case my initial post was not sufficiently clear, I will state for the record that I do not consider the 2018 Emmys to be significant enough to merit a blurb. Lepricavark (talk) 01:18, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Lepricavark. Although it would actually be up to the posting admin to decide (if the article ever achieves posting quality, which would rather surprise me), my own guess is that your !vote at least arguably became valid as soon as you mentioned WP:IAR. This seems to have possibly important implications for both ITNR and ITNRD, and (although strictly speaking this isn't a truly new situation) it might perhaps be worth starting a discussion about such implications (perhaps at the ITNC Talk page, and perhaps pinging everybody involved in this nom). I may or may not try to start such a discussion myself, but definitely not just yet, but perhaps some other editor(s) might wish to start one anyway without waiting for me.Tlhslobus (talk) 01:58, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose given the lack of article prose. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 23:53, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment - Following up on Lepricavark's justification, TV ratings for 2018 Emmy's are the lowest on record. An 11% drop from 2017.--WaltCip (talk) 18:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Enzo CalzagheEdit

Article: Enzo Calzaghe (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Dumelow (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: British boxing trainer. Article is pretty poor at the moment but I will look to see if I get get it up to the mark in the next few hours - Dumelow (talk) 15:15, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I expanded it a little and improved the referencing. It's not perfect but I think it meets the standard now - Dumelow (talk) 22:36, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

  • The problem I have with this isn't the sourcing, it's that the "Boxing" section, which let's face it is what he's notable for, is so small. There's no prose on the majority of fighters who he coached to fame. Black Kite (talk) 22:44, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

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