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September 30

  • Gol Transportes Aéreos Flight 1907, crashed in the rural state of Mato Grosso[1] it is unknown if there are any survivors it could be Brazil's worst air disaster, 155 people were on board Mieciu K 09:36, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Add. Article has been created, crash has been confirmed and wreckage found, passenger manifest has been released. If no survivors, definitely worst incident in Brazilian aviation history. Fvasconcellos 15:00, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Yes definte add now. Per above. Very important current event. Hello32020 15:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
        • I have added it, but without definite reports on the survivors, I am current reluctant to add that it could be Brazil's worst air disaster. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
    • The sport has the third highest attendance of any sport on Earth, if this news is not noteworthy then I don't know what is.
      • That's a touch misleading; the *average* attendance is the third highest, and that ignores a lot of auto racing. --Golbez 08:06, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
        • The average is what matters because theres over 200million people in the united states, and only 20million in Australia. Also, the sport is one of the oldest in the world, its more than 40 years since a grand final has been decided by a point, its the most popular sport in australia with the highest attendances of any sport in australia, has the highest average attendances of any other sport in the southern hemesphere, and there are corruption allegations against AFL officials including umpires that sydney was earmarked to be given the 2005 & 2006 grand finals, yet the opposition in west coast eagles were still able to win.
          • There has been much debate over whether sporting events, especially ones that do not have international clout (such as the UEFA Champion's League, the Super Bowl, and the Stanley Cup), should be posted here on ITN (see the archived discussion). So I apologise if there is reluctance to also post the AFL Grand Final too. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 08:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
            • I totally understand, there has to be consistancy though, I remember a hockey thing being in the news and at the moment, golf (the ryder cup) is on there, here in australia its as big as the Melbourne Cup.

  • Perhaps have something like the "The 2006 AFL and NRL seasons end in Australia" put up tomorrow night. Also, the UEFA Champion's League should go up, its heavily followed.--HamedogTalk|@ 09:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
  • The AFL Grand Final should be put up. Was the Soccer world cup put up? If it was this should be to. Due to the fact that it is an Australian sport.
    • Its not suitbale since it has little to no international significance.--Peta 10:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
      • That is not true at all. Australian Rules has become a worldwide sport with national leagues in Canada, US, UK, New Zealand, Japan etc. The game itself was broadcasted to every continent for everyone to watch. It truly does have international significance and it should be posted.--c4v3m4n 07:23, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

September 29

  • A Brazilian Gol Transportes Aéreos flight with 155 passengers onboard, has disappeared from radar, after coliding with a smaller jet in midair, 470 miles south of Manaus.
    • Defintely needed, not much info at the moment though Hello32020 01:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
      • I'd hold off adding it the template until we know where it has gone, if it hasn't crashed it's not really news, plus there is not much there at the moment.--Peta 01:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Yeah it could wait till more info is available. I'm going to be going to bed soon though, so...Hello32020 01:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Add per [2] Hello32020 02:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
          • There is still no article and nobody knows what happened yet (or even how many people there were on board, I've seen estimates beteen 140 - 155), this does not meet the criteria for ITN yet.--Peta 02:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Typhoon Xangsane lashes the northern Philippines, killing at least 28 people and causing extensive damage. --Peta 04:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Is there enough content around to make a seperate Typhoon Xangsane (2006) article about it like Hurricane Ioke and Typhoon Saomai (2006)? Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Linking the summary pages has been done before, the cyclone wikiproject people are in the best position to decide to make a new article. Its one of the top international stories on google news atm.--Peta 05:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Alright, I will put it on for now. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

September 28


September 27

  • A gunman fatally shoots a teenage girl, one of two hostages, before turning the gun on himself in the Platte Canyon High School shooting at Platte Canyon High School in Bailey, Colorado, United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) (revised — Webdinger BLAH | SZ 04:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC))
    • Posted. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 21:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Why? No international significance whatsoever. --Golbez 22:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Seems presumptuous when there are articles on BBC news and other international sources. Of course the same agrument could be made about posting the Dawson College shooting on ITN. [3] Zzyzx11 (Talk) 22:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
          • Of course the BBC had it, school shootings are gold for the news - but that doesn't make them inherently encyclopedic. And don't get me started on the bad spinach. --Golbez 17:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
          • By the way, Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page says entries "should be a story of an international importance, or at least interest" (my emphasis added). This was a slow news day...would you rather have ITN not be updated for several days? (See also PFHLai's comment [4])Zzyzx11 (Talk) 22:45, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Shootings happen all the time in the US. I dont see the significance. Rafy 00:46, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
          • Well, like PFHLai's comment I cited, I am willing to replace it if I find anything other significantly new to put on ITN. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

September 26

  • That's right :) But as the main part is absolutely clear already and it only needs to be formally confirmed, I've posted it here so we could put in on the Main Page as soon as the report is officially unveiled. In case we need a picture, the European flag or even better, this map, would fit well. TodorBozhinov 12:53, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Enlargement of the European Union, Accession of Bulgaria to the European Union and Accession of Romania to the European Union could use a touch of updating. (e.g. On Sep.26th, 2006, the EC announced that ....) -- 17:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Done! TodorBozhinov 17:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Are we waiting for 1 January 2007? This can replace the Ryder Cup. -- 16:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • More can be found on Shinzo Abe's page. -- PFHLai 12:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

September 25

  • The Madden Curse (NFL) strikes again. Running back Shaun Alexander of the Seattle Seahawks keeps the curse rolling. The curse has hit a 100% of the time in all seven years it's featured a football player. --Nissi Kim 02:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Ummm... This isn't even remotely of global interest. BTW, what the hell is the Madden curse? (Note: my question was rhetorical. I'm not going to bother to read the article linked to). Mikker (...) 02:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, football fans around the globe would be interested, but this is probably not important enough or big enough a news story for ITN. Unless a major record is broken (e.g. Brett Farve breaking Dan Marino's touchdown record.), let's not have the NFL on ITN till after the SuperBowl. We usually don't do sports news on ITN unless it's a major championship of a high-profile sport. Thanks. --PFHLai 12:37, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Apparently global interest doesn't matter anymore, since we're including spinach recalls and minor school shootings. --Golbez 22:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Count your blessings when things like these are the biggest bad news these days. -- 16:07, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

September 24

  • Posted. -- PFHLai 19:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Seconded - a far more notable story than spinach food poisoning which has rated pretty much no mention outside of the United States, Canada and Mexico. Hopefully this should knock it off. --AMorris (talk)(contribs) 09:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Posted. -- PFHLai 13:03, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
The text is somewhat ambiguous as Team Europe is described as the "leading golfers of Europe" (only semi-accurate btw as two places on the team are chosen by the captain and not by rank) while Team USA is described as "a team from the United States". It would make more sense to simply say something like "At the K Club in Saffran, Ireland, the European team defeats the United States team by a soce of..." or something to that effect. --Denoir 02:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Already fixed by User:Moriori. --PFHLai 12:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

September 23

  • Posted. Did not mention Rüütel because who got defeated was not mentioned in Toomas Hendrik Ilves#Presidential Elections. Please elaborate there. Thanks. And Rüütel's page got tagged with {POV}, thus not good for MainPage. -- PFHLai 22:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
  • The US Navy officially retires the F-14 Tomcat, ending its 34 year service with the United States. The retirement of the plane in the US leaves Iran as the only nation in the world still operating the plane. --TomStar81 (Talk) 10:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Not sure if there is wide enough interest. I'll pass for now. --PFHLai 22:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Posted. Please be reminded to update Portal:Current events. Thanks. -- PFHLai 22:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
    • This is absurd. I doubt if even this has an article it would be posted on the main page at the height of the news item. Nobody even died on California yet. --Howard the Duck 05:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I agree with Howard the Duck, this is absurd. Looks like serious systematic bias - 'if it happens in America it is important'. How is this of global interest? It's not. Please delete. Mikker (...) 11:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
As explained in the edit summary at ITN, it was another slow-news day. I have already explained yesterday on Template talk:In the news#U.S. Bias that it was not a US bias. I was just looking for something decent to update ITN. All three new items yesterday were not that big news stories, IMO. But it's better than having the same old news items for so many days. If anyone has better candidates, please nominate them here so that the offending items can be displaced. I am not removing it right away, or there will be people complaining that ITN is all about politics. Some (not all) fellow Wikipedians actually support having this item on ITN (See Talk:Main Page#United States.) Furthermore, it was an excuse for me to put hemolytic-uremic syndrome on MainPage. We haven't had much science-related news, besides space explorations, on ITN lately. -- PFHLai 19:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

September 20

  • Richard Hammond a British television presenter best known for co-presenting Top Gear is seriously injured after crashing a jet-powered Vampire car, during an attempt to break the British land speed record. --Mieciu K 14:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Much, much too parochial. See redlinked biography. Badgerpatrol 14:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
It was while filming Top Gear, the programme is estimated to have over 350 million viewers worldwide 5 million of whom watch the programme each week in the UK. I don't think that is parochial/regional. Mieciu K 14:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
So Top Gear gets a third of the viewers that the Olympic Games attracts? Not likely. This is only headline in the UK because it's a very slow news day otherwise. I doubt if many Britons could have put a name to this individual's face before yesterday (I certainly couldn't), let alone the majority of Wikipedians. Compare this story to those already up there- world trade, the future of the space programme, revolutions etc. This story doesn't even have regional interest- only UK readers are likely to be interested, and even then, not many. Badgerpatrol 15:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

September 19

  • Already up. --Golbez 20:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

September 18

  • NATO forces calim that Operation Medusa against the Taleban in south Afghanistan has been successful, or
Operation Medusa, the largest NATO offensive in Afghanistan, drives Taliban militants out of a stronghold in Panjwayi.--Peta 23:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
  • NATO's report on the demise of the Taliban in Panjwayi appears to somewhat exaggerated. -- PFHLai 13:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Was about to post something on this, important story... Mikker (...) 02:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I'll pass. A 2-sentence update seems inadequate. -- PFHLai 13:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

September 17

Let us see what the results are, yes? Batmanand | Talk 09:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
With the counting of the votes almost complete, the Alliance for Sweden claim victory in the Swedish general election, 2006 WP 22:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Now is the time (BBC is reporting it). I have rewitten the above to make it more correct. Batmanand | Talk 22:13, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Popular Kazakhstani cyclist Alexandre Vinokourov wins the 2006 Tour of Spain, one of the Grand Tours of professional cycling. - Thethinredline 12:50, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Maybe add this to the Portal for cycling or sports (if it already hasn't), but this really shouldn't be added to the main page. The 2006 Tour of Spain may be one of the Grand Tours of cycling, but it certainly is no Tour de France. --Nishkid64 17:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Why do so many people have this Tour de France > Tour of Italy/Tour of Spain mentality... I should start an article about it :) Thethinredline 21:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
        • Because so many people have never, or hardly ever, heard of the Tour of Italy/Spain. say1988 04:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

September 16

  • On 16 September at the summit of the Non-Aligned Movement in Havana, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf made a joint statement announcing that the two countries would resume formal peace negotiations and set up a joint agency to tackle terrorism. The negotiations had been suspended following the 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings. -- Beardo 20:38, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I think this should definitely be main page, but not at the moment. Not until some developments are made in the talks should this be put up on the main page. It's one thing to agree to make talks, but it's another to actually make progress in talks. --Nishkid64 17:14, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

September 15

This is frontpage of many of the UK newspapers tomorrow. Batmanand | Talk 22:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
This definitely should be on the Main Page, but I think it out to be more concise. Perhaps...
Added; thanks. Flcelloguy (A note?) 15:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

September 14

  • New archeological evidence from Mexico shows that writing was developed in the New World as early as 2000 years ago. BBC Would make a really good ITN addition if someone wrote an article or knew where to add the detail to an exisitng article.--Peta 22:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

September 13

Posted. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 07:30, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I would remove the Columbine shooting reference, as we have no idea what is actually going on. Perhaps:
Though I am unsure of whether this should really be on the main page, at least right now.say1988 19:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I would say that you should wait a few hours until new developments come out before requesting this to be a highlight. Even the article on the shooting right now isn't that big since not much news has been spread about it. Just wait for now. --Nishkid64 19:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The dead are unconfirmed. The 12 wiunded is from Montreal General Hospital. I would also include that at least one gunman has been neutralized by police and reports of a second committing suicide.say1988 19:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I would say it is VERY important. Although my Columbine reference may be inappropriate at this time, there are similarities, and Columbine was devastating when it took place. I mean, its a shooting at a school. Kids dead. In my opinion, very important. Yes, the article is underdeveloped at this time, but not for long. I think "a few hours" is too long, I request it be added ASAP. -- Reaper X 19:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I certainly support; it is a severe school shooting. To my knowledge, 4 have been confirmed killed, and 6 are in critical condition. However, it is true that the article 1)needs attention, including formatting I have been unable to figure out (help needed) and 2) more information, which will be coming to light within an hour. Once these are satisfied, which shouldnt be very long, it definitely requires a space on the mainpage. --Gregorof 20:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, can we see this on front page, it is important worldwide (or in the western-world). 4 dead, we have stuff on the front page with less deaths. Lincher 20:19, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe because those aren't deaths? The main page isn't for all deaths and such. I personally am against making this a Main Page item (since I don't really think it's that notable; call me crazy, but there are school shootings all the time), but if other people think its really important, I'm not going to say they're wrong. If anything, I'm probably wrong for my opinion on this. --Nishkid64 20:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Almost every major news organization has reported on it, including Reuters, CNN and as far away as the Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Yeah I think it should defintely be added, very notable as a shooting, look at the media coverage. Hello32020 20:40, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, okay fine I guess. I saw a lot of news coverage. I guess it should be added then. --Nishkid64 20:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Ok people.. just to tell you guys, STOP SPECULATING. The OFFICIAL reports are 1 dead (shooter, killed by SPVM) and 20 students injured. --Deenoe 21:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
It still doesn't seem all that history-making to me, but it IS on the front page of most sites I can find (in the top 4 stories on BBC, main story on CNN, MSNBC, yahoo, google, fox websites...). Usually stories that hit all the sites at once end up on the In the news list. --Interiot 22:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
I have to agree with Deenoe; stop speculating. This article needs to make the front page, if only for one reason: it's on the front page of every major news outlet's website. Toronto Star, The Gazette, New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, CNN, Global, LA Times, etc. ♠ SG →Talk 23:54, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
We were using the news sources. We weren't making our own speculations. We were just merely using the speculations of others. Besides, I don't think this is newsworthy now. 1 person dead, I doubt it's a top headline in a newspaper; probably a column on the front page of the New York Times. --Nishkid64 00:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The suspect has been named: Kimveer Gill. Feel free to wiki that into 'the suspect' in the existing text, or actually add the name; I have no preference. Radagast 14:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

September 11

I was just about to suggest this; important story. Brian | (Talk) 21:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Add my support. Tell me to get back to work! 21:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

September 9

September 8

Alternative: Race-car driver Peter Brock is confirmed dead after he crashes into a tree during the Targa West rally near Perth, Western Australia. -- PageantUpdatertalk | contribs | esperanza 06:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Or again:
Australian motor racing legend Peter Brock, winner of nine Bathurst 1000 races, has been killed in an accident during the Targa West rally in Western Australia. Daniel.Bryant 07:50, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

September 7

Or, if we are to be entirely accurate, "... announces he will stand down from the post before the 2007 Labour Party conference". Batmanand | Talk 17:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Posted. Andrew Levine 01:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
A bit stubby, with about one sentence on the incident in question. Daniel.Bryant 07:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

September 6

September 5

September 3

  • Ryder Cup Europe picks it's Ryder Cup team (Gnevin 22:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC))
    • Not news. --Golbez 23:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Ryder cup is massive its better than 13 day old news (Gnevin 23:03, 3 September 2006 (UTC))
  • Try again *after* we have a winner. -- 05:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Italian Troops arive in Lebanon (Gnevin 22:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC))
    • You need an updated article. --Golbez 23:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Hurricane John sweeps Baja California (Gnevin 22:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC))
    • Whhhhhy not. --Golbez 23:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Probably should be rephrased...the phrase "high flooding" doesn't mean anything. Possibly "severe flooding"? -Runningonbrains 07:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
  • SMART-1 mission ends successfuly as it crashes into the moon (Gnevin 23:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC))
  • Steve Irwin dies. Jasonn 05:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Interesting, but it wouldn't seem to meet the criteria for deaths on ITN. --Golbez 05:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Steve Irwin deserves to be pictured instead of Andre Agassi. I think a death is more important than someone retiring from Tennis. Lakeyboy 05:54, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
        • That's nice. Does he match the death criteria? --Golbez 06:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
          • Satisfies point 2. " (2) the deceased was a key figure in their field of expertise, and died unexpectedly or tragically" Rafy 06:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

September 1

  • Angela Merkel is the post powerful woman in the world, according to the 2006 Forbes list of most powerful women
    • Not news. --Golbez 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Agreed. This is purely a POV of one newsmagazine. We don't even list the results of the annual Fortune 500 here. --Kitch 17:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I have updated the Iran Air Tours article. Mieciu K 15:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks, but one of the most important facts - the flight number is currently unknown. Mieciu K 15:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Do we have an article on this yet? --Golbez 23:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)