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July 30

  • STS-114: NASA announces that the mission will be extended for one day, so that Discovery's crew can assist the Expedition 11 crew in maintenance tasks on-board the International Space Station. --Kitch 23:07, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Maybe we should hold off on another Shuttle story till it lands. The announcement that the mission will be extended one day is not really unusual at all.--Pharos 23:49, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
    • I agree. There is enough going on on planet earth without a day by day account of the trials and tribulations of an American space shuttle. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 00:55, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
  • I just wanted to note... shouldn't we mention that the 21 July 2005 London bombings suspects were captured in Rome? --Kitch 20:25, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, one was captured in Birmingham, two in London, and one in Rome. It would be a mouthful to put all that on ITN.--Pharos 23:47, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

July 29

Added, see if you can find a graphic (the one the BBC has might work). --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:08, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

July 28

  • Let's use   for the blurb about Northern Ireland on ITN right now, shall we ? The current image doesn't go with the top news item. -- 01:21, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Possibly one of these murals from Commons would be better. In particular a central crop from Image:Derry_mural_9.jpg. These are of course politically loaded, so care needs to be taken. -- Solipsist 10:04, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
      • The detail from the wide wall of murals doesn't work, but this one might. 100px -- Solipsist 10:46, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

July 26

Space Shuttle Discovery lifts off at 10:39 EDT from Kennedy Space Center on mission STS-114, the first space shuttle mission since the Columbia disaster on February 1, 2003. --Jpo 15:08, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Shucks, I was beaten. :) --Golbez 15:15, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

the first spaceflight since the Columbia disaster in 2003

This is wrong and should be removed ASAP. There have been several other spaceflights since then (e.g. Soyuz TMA-5 in October 2004). Ben Arnold 16:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I've found a whole bunch of other spaceflights since Columbia:

  • 26 April 2003 Soyuz TMA-2
  • 15 October 2003 Shenzhou 5
  • 18 October 2003 Soyuz TMA-3
  • 19 April 2004 Soyuz TMA-4
  • 14 October 2004 Soyuz TMA-5
  • 15 April 2005 Soyuz TMA-6

It's frustrating that false information has been put in the News section and the page is protected. Ben Arnold 16:51, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Can we have "... the first U.S. spaceflight since ..." changed to "... the first NASA spaceflight since ...", please ? -- 18:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC) And I don't think we need a hyphen in "lifts-off". -- 18:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

July 25

The setting of a date for the election is not of sufficient importance for ITN. Maybe it would be if it was a snap election, but this is one of the most expected dates. We should certainly have the election itself here on September 17, and the results on September 18.-gadfium 03:18, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree that it's not a surprise, but we haven't had much from that part of the world lately. Let's not leave them out. This was apparently the top news item there yesterday, as it is now on the ITN at Wikipedia:Wikiportal/New Zealand. Also, I would suggest an update of ITN with something for the sake of an update. I'd rather have the earthquake, or the Philippine electoral crisis, 2005, but we need well updated articles. An alternative would be the Guinea-Bissau presidential election, 2005, but I'd wait for the pending results in a few days. This suggestion was made in response to a complaint at Talk:Main Page#Update the news section regularly. Please re-consider. Thanks. -- 04:56, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, it's updated with something! -- 21:45, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

July 24

Is Lance moving on to other (non-road) bicycle racing ? -- 18:55, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

July 22

A plane crashed close to the German parliament (Bundestag) and Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's office. See,1,7523308.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

The current In the News says "following yesterday's abortive bombing attempts..." Didn't the bombs actually go off? (ie they were not attempts, nor abortive). The section should read "following yesterday's bombings on the London Underground..." Kaisershatner 18:18, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Only the detonators, not the devices themselves, exploded with the bombers then fleeing the scene. I think that qualifies as an abortive attempt. Ddye 20:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

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pamri 04:41, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

July 14

Time to do a Karl Rove story. The latest news [1] is that an undisclosed New York times source claims that Rove admitted to investigators to have talked to columnist Robert Novak, shortly before Novak publicized the name of Valerie Plame. In the past weeks, it was revealed that Rove told Times reporter Matthew Cooper that "Wilson's wife" was a CIA agent, but until today it was not clear if Rove had ever talked directly to Novak. The report, if confirmed will substantiate both the claims of Rove's misconduct, accidental or deliberate, and further implicate the White House and perhaps even its appointed investigator. -SV|t 01:28, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

  • This is a U.S. story with somewhat limited international interest, so we probably wouldn't want to put it up more than once. I think it might be best to wait a few days on this one, as events are movingly rapidly and it seems likely there will be at least some sort of a "confession" (if not resignation) on Rove's part soon.--Pharos 02:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

July 13

We have too much room on the right side of the Main Page, how about sticking this in somewhere on ITN ? -- 06:50, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
  • While I do enjoy hockey, and this is important, what with everything it affects, they still have not officialy ended the lockout. After its ratified would be a better time to announce it, which should happen sometime next week. Kaiser Matias 18:05 15 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Fair enough. Fits my own criteria for elections and voting I suppose. But I'm sure someone will revert me sans reason rather quickly. --Golbez 18:19, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Awesome.The deal has rammifications within hockey and the other NA pro sports... like the MLB... now the only one w/o a (long overdue) salary cap. --Madchester 20:51, July 15, 2005 (UTC)


July 12

July 11


July 9

  • Item was added to main page. Mgm|(talk) 08:22, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
    • Please fix ALT text. The red area in the map now on ITN is not Southern Scotland, but the entire Scotland. Perhaps [[Image:Map_of_Scotland_within_the_United_Kingdom.png|none|100px|Map marking southern Scotland]] should be changed to [[Image:Map of_Scotland within the United Kingdom.png|100px|Map marking Scotland within the United Kingdom]] ? Thanks. -- 14:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

that's true i think the main image should be replace with the one of the world leaders instead of the map of scotland. after all, it's them pledging the aid, not scotland

I agree. But right now, the Flag of Kyrgyzstan would be even better. :-) -- 04:04, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

  • Hurricane Dennis, the first hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, has killed at least 10 people in Cuba, and is heading towards the Gulf Coast of the United States. 9 July 2005 11:01 (UTC)
    • Posted. (Or rather, existing entry edited) --Golbez July 9, 2005 17:21 (UTC)
      • Is it possible to use an older version of Image:Dennis 2005 Track.gif which also shows Cuba in red ? The updated version is not as informative. -- 9 July 2005 18:31 (UTC)
        • How is having accurate information less informative? Cuba is no longer under a hurricane warning. It no longer should be in red. --Golbez July 9, 2005 18:50 (UTC)
          • Accuracy is not the issue. As the blurb mentions damages in Cuba, it would be nice to show Cuba in the figure, without the scale bar covering the island. If Haiti is shown as well, so much the better... Never mind, we have a different pic now... -- 07:55, 10 July 2005 (UTC) P.S. I meant being informative about the track. -- 05:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

July 8

July 7

Typo, should be: "The attack comes less than 24 hours after the city won the nomination to host the 2012 Summer Olympics." – Smyth\talk 7 July 2005 19:30 (UTC)

"The attack comes less than 24 hours after London's winning the contract" - Typo? No, it's just a different (and equally correct) wording. — Dan | Talk 7 July 2005 19:47 (UTC)
I was referring to the previous wording. It's fine now. – Smyth\talk 7 July 2005 19:51 (UTC)

July 6

The European Parliament rejects the proposed Directive on the patentability of computer-implemented inventions by a 648-14 vote with 18 abstentions, ending four years of intense debate and lobbying.

Why the hell not, posted. It's also a rather good article, which helps. --Golbez July 6, 2005 14:23 (UTC)

July 3

Non-free image removed

  • Cooper Documents reveal that one of the two sources in the Valerie Plame exposure scandal was Karl Rove, president George W. Bush's chief political advisor. (Wikinews) (TIME Magazine) (Editor & Publisher) (The Huffington Post) posted here by Kevin Baastalk: new July 3, 2005 16:14 (UTC)
    • It's not something that is widely known in the world. Here in Canada, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who even knew what this is about, myself included. And I spend a lot of time looking up international news. Kaiser Matias 23:39 3 July 2005 (UTC)
      • No proper article update: Cooper Documents is a red link, Valerie Plame has a single mention from Larry O'Donnell of MSNBC (All other mentions of Rove are two years old), Matthew Cooper has no mention of it, and Karl Rove has no mention of it. Try again please. --Golbez July 4, 2005 01:18 (UTC)
        • FWIW, I have shifted my focus to wikinews, so i'm primarily relying on others on wikipedias to stay on top of things like this. If I update Valerie Plame or an article on the Supreme Court case (if there is one, which there should be) will this item be reconsidered, and if not, why not? Kevin Baastalk: new July 4, 2005 13:44 (UTC)
          • I suppose it would be reconsidered (that Wikinews article looks quite good, btw), I'd think the best place would be to have an article on the documents themselves, or update Plame. Is this public record yet, though, or is this just Larry O'Donnell's raving? --Golbez July 4, 2005 20:11 (UTC)

July 2

  • Live 8 concerts are taking place in each of the G8 countries around the world with the message calling for an end to world poverty.
    • Biggest musical event ever, might deserve to be on the Main Page I guess... Dan100 (Talk) July 2, 2005 15:47 (UTC)
      • It's a shame not to see Live 8 not on the Main Page yet. Never before has there been something this big happening, with an estimated audience of 5 billion. Kaiser Matias 15:57 2 July (UTC)
        • 83% of the whole world population is going to this concert? That deserves to be on the Main Page without a doubt! ;-) — Timwi 2 July 2005 18:22 (UTC)

July 1

  • American R&B singer Luther Vandross dies at the age of 54, from complications of a stroke.
    • Very popular musician over the course of a two-decade career in music. Currently confirmed breaking news at [2]. --FuriousFreddy 1 July 2005 23:01 (UTC)
    • Support this one. This is a name known around the world, is covered well in the article, and the news item could take very little space if necessary. Deco 2 July 2005 21:40 (UTC)
    • See yesterday's furor over Sandra Day O'Connor. Today's the wrong day for "dead U.S. musician" to try and make the front page. Hajor 2 July 2005 21:51 (UTC)
  • Sandra Day O'Connor submits her letter of resignation from the U.S. Supreme Court, the first resignation in over ten years, effective when her successor is confirmed.
    • I offer this because I feel the post there now is inadequately worded. --Kitch 1 July 2005 15:02 (UTC)


  • Germany's parliament is due to hold a vote of confidence. Chancellor Gerhard Schröder wants to lose it to trigger new elections.
    • Now that he's lost, I've posted it. Best to point the link to the elections rather than our (rather poor) Schröder biography, I think - should this be on expansion requests? David | Talk 1 July 2005 12:06 (UTC)
      • How about this pic of Gerhard Schröder from the Commons ? (on the right, the one on the left is {{unverified}}.)-- 1 July 2005 12:48 (UTC)
        • Thanks - done. David | Talk 1 July 2005 14:08 (UTC)