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— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:53, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, these do not appear to be reliable sources, and mentioning the website in the "Definition" section would probably give it undue weight compared with the other, more neutral, content of the article. It is thus relatively unlikely that the edit will be implemented, but if you disagree, feel free to request the change at the article's talk page, Talk:Positioning (marketing). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:02, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


Im new to Wikipedia, but i made a mistake didnt see your last msg that an assistant principal is different, sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey, no worries. The message you're referring to, however, seems to have been sent by John from Idegon, not me.  
Regarding the inclusion of the assistant, I am completely indifferent to that. I just requested a reliable source for the addition. If you agree with John from Idegon, it may be reasonable to undo your own edit to resolve the content dispute. Else, a discussion at Talk:Yeshiva_Tiferes_Yisroel would likely be needed. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
The edit has been undone in Special:Diff/902608064. Please also note that a LinkedIn profile is unlikely to be a reliable source in this case; the official website of the institution is often a better one (conditions apply). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:44, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
As part of the guidelines for school articles, the only non notable person we name is the principal. Not assistants, no teachers, no students. Although guidelines can of course be overridden by local consensus, I really cannot conceive of how enough reliable secondary sources could be found to gain such a consensus. Really the only way it could would probably violate WP:BLP restrictions on giving negative information on non famous people. John from Idegon (talk) 00:49, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

  Thank you, good sir! InvictusImperator (talk) 21:14, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Hey InvictusImperator, thank you for the cookie, you're welcome!   Please let me know if further questions arise. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:17, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-26

17:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Donna D'errico

I have 2 link as sources: 1. Still filming all these years later? Nope! 2. Her Kickstarter fund raising page which she used to allegedly raise funds to complete this project. It's not been updated in years. Frankly, I think she conned the people who donated. At least one person obtained a refund from her. That would be me!

She's a con artist in my view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, this seems to be about Special:Diff/903164449. You may remove incorrect information, but adding a new sentence comes with a burden of verifiability. IMDb is not a reliable source, and personally interpreting statements from a Kickstarter page is original research. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Message by 2601:C6:C680:7A0:CC62:BB2C:8434:1366

I used the correct language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C6:C680:7A0:CC62:BB2C:8434:1366 (talk) 21:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi 2601:C6:C680:7A0:CC62:BB2C:8434:1366, Special:Diff/903932550 and Special:Diff/903932764 appear to be introducing factual errors to the article Matchbox Twenty. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

The June 2019 Signpost is out!


It says here these are towns, not cities — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC49:3049:7C33:2CD8:6156:3302 (talk) 19:54, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi 2602:306:BC49:3049:7C33:2CD8:6156:3302, thank you very much for the quick response.   Where is "here", if I may ask? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:55, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

On the website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC49:3049:7C33:2CD8:6156:3302 (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

2602:306:BC49:3049:7C33:2CD8:6156:3302, thank you very much again. I see that this website does provide a distinction between "towns" and "cities", as can be seen when entering "San Francisco" in the search form. It is unclear, however, where this data comes from. The website itself does not seem to be reliable enough to make the changes you're currently introducing. You may need to stop these mass-edits, but I personally am too unsure to take any action here. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:04, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-27

21:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Criminal Party page

I used the same translation for MTV and wikipedia both. I sent them the current translation before. But I created the biography, not them. What do I have to do ? Thanks for helping me. --Fab1966 (talk) 10:29, 3 May 2019 (UTC) Fabio 3/5/19

Hi Fab1966, have you given any "exclusive" rights to the website? Please carefully check your contract. Afterwards, if you did not give "exclusive" rights to anyone, wrote the text entirely yourself in your own words and would like to publish it on Wikipedia, please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Thanks   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:41, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I wrote again the buography. What do you think about it ? Thanks --Fab1966 (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC) Fabio 6/5/19

Hi Fab1966, thank you for the notification. Is there any update about the copyright? Have you sent an e-mail, for example? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:16, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

I could do it, but I didn't because I wrote it again. please, could you check it ? Thanks --Fab1966 (talk) 15:34, 7 May 2019 (UTC) Fabio 7/5/19

Hmm. Fab1966, I am unsure about this. The changes can be found at Special:Diff/895808513. If you wrote the original text, we can ignore all "close paraphrasing" issues if you take a moment to send the e-mail.
If you really would like to submit the article for review without releasing any rights to the original text, you may use the blue "Submit your draft for review!" button. This way, another reviewer can have a look too. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I'll send the e mail. But in the declaration they need to mention a link. Which one need I to include, the MTV one ? Thanks --Fab1966 (talk) 15:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC) 7/5/19 Fabio

Thank you, that solves the whole problem.   Fab1966, for the text at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, the "URL of the content" is the website that you have submitted your text to. If you wrote your text for MTV, it is the MTV page, for example . The "Exact URL of the page or file on Wikipedia" is . ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I just the sent the declaration of the owner of the biography. What need I to publish it ? Thanks --Fab1966 (talk) 17:37, 8 May 2019 (UTC)Fabio 8/5/19

Fab1966: Sorry, I am not sure if I understand your message correctly. Have you sent the e-mail to permissions-en ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:23, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes --Fab1966 (talk) 19:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC) Fabio 8/7/19

Perfect, Fab1966, thank you very much for taking the time to do this. We need to wait for an answer now. This can take about 50 days. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
  Bumping thread for 60 days. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:04, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@Fab1966: If you would like me to submit the draft for review as soon as the e-mail has been read, please tell me "I would like to submit the draft for review as soon as possible" below. I will then wait and later do this for you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:06, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Of course yes, I would like to submit the draft for review as soon as possible Thanks --Fab1966 (talk) 14:45, 9 May 2019 (UTC) Fabio 9/5/19

  Bumping thread for 1000 days. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Note to self: Do this when the OTRS ticket is resolved: Special:Diff/896292830 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:14, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I sent the permission as you suggested. They asked for common license, that of course I sent, but the they answered in the following way: Dear Fabio Rapisarda, CC BY-SA 4.0 is not compatible with Wikipedia's license ( Additionally, I am still not able to verify that you are the copyright holder. (See directions in my previous message.)

Yours sincerely, [...] Of couse, now i don't know how to solve the problem. Please could you help me ? Thanks

fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 23:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

OTRS member's signature removed ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi Fab1966, that's unfortunate.  
Per our legal disclaimer, I can't say "this is okay". I can only point out possible issues, like close paraphrasing, but I can not say "this is fine".
Special:Diff/895808513 seems to indicate that the new text is still based on the MTVROCK article, with the wording changed but the structure unchanged. This is not necessarily a problem, but also probably not ideal. If you hadn't written the MTVROCK article, I would probably suggest deleting the whole text, and writing it from scratch in your own words. As these are your own words, I am unsure how to continue. Is there really no way for you to ask the MTVROCK website owner to verify your authorship? Maybe the MTVROCK website owner can send a similar e-mail to Wikipedia? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:25, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I wrote the biography with own words. I changed something. If you read the MTV biography and the wikipedia one, they are not the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 22:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, I do believe you.   However, the OTRS volunteer has expressed doubt. Can you ask the administrator of MTVROCK to add a sentence to the MTVROCK page? "This article has been written by Wikipedia user Fab1966 and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license", or something similar? If I understand correctly, you have also received an e-mail with more detailled instructions. There does not seem to be anything I personally can do here at the moment. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Pinging JJMC89 per Special:Diff/897865501, maybe he can confirm my interpretation. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
ticket:2019050810007489 does not contain an adequate statement of permission. The specified license is not compatible, and there is no evidence that the person who signed the statement is the copyright holder. Given that, I did not compare the source text vs Wikipedia. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:16, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, if you read the new version of the biography, it's not same of the one published by MTV rock. I don't understand because I need a license. Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 14:03, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, my original concern was close paraphrasing. When I expressed this concern, I did not know that you have written the MTVROCK article yourself.
If I understand correctly, Wikipedia has still not received verification for your authorship. For this reason, the original Wikipedia article text may be deleted as a suspected copyright violation.
In Special:Diff/895808513, you have modified the closely paraphrased text. It is now less closely paraphrased.
I do not know if this is sufficient. I would prefer clarity about this copyright issue.
I can not give legal advice. I can only point out potential problems. This may be a problem. I do not know. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:46, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I sent them the Creatice Common license 4.0 (as they suggested), but they wrote me it wasn't fine. Now I don't really know what to do. I don't understand what they need. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 19:14, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, there are multiple different "Creative Commons" licenses. Please compare these four licenses:
You have likely been asked to use one of the green licenses ( ), not the red one ( ).
If you have questions about an e-mail sent to you, please respond to the e-mail to ask your questions. Please respond via e-mail that you do not understand what to do next. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I attached the Creative common 4.0 link in the Criminal Party's page. Please, could you check if it's correct and maybe send it for the approval ? Thanks Fabio

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 08:57, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fab1966, that's sadly not what I meant. You do not need to add this text to the Wikipedia article. Wikipedia articles are automatically published under a free license.
I meant: Could you add the text "This article has been written by Wikipedia user Fab1966 and is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license"
to the following page?
Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I could try. It doesn't depends on me. Can you suggest an alternative ? Thanks Fabio

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:47, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, I sadly can't think of a good alternative. Please do try. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I contacted them, but the biography I wrote on wikipedia EN it's not completely the same. I mean, I don't understand because I need a copyright now I made changes to the one published on MTV !!! Thanks


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:12, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, merely "making changes" to a potential copyright violation does not necessarily solve the problem. For example, the old version is still accessible in the revision history of the page. Normally, copyright violations are deleted from the history, but this is not a clear case. For the same reason, I am unsure how to continue here.
Thank you for contacting the website administrator. If they add the requested text to the website, we probably do not need to worry about copyright anymore. This is why I have asked you to solve the problem this way.
Let's wait for the website administrator's response. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:20, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I've inserted a new biography version. Please, could you check it ?

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 16:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fab1966, thank you very much for rewriting the article. I have submitted it for review. This may take about 2 months, since there are 3776 other submissions also waiting for review. However, your submission will be reviewed. You will receive a message on your talk page as soon as a reviewer had a look at it.
It may take multiple reviews until the article meets the English Wikipedia's standards. Please don't let this discourage you. Thank you very much for taking the time to write this article, and to deal with the complicated copyright concerns. If you'd like to continue contributing to Wikipedia, you may like to have a look at The Wikipedia Adventure and our community portal.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

As I wrote you in the other page too, I really don't undestand what I need do now. Are they asking me to resubmit the biography ? Why ?


Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 01:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, this is unrelated to copyright.
The reviewer seems to have the following concern: WP:42
A good next step could be adding links to independent, reliable newspapers or books that detailledly describe the band. Please ask Bkissin if something is unclear about his concerns. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, please could you explain me why they aren't publishing on wikipedia EN the Criminal Party's page ? Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 15:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, the English Wikipedia may have stricter guidelines and policies than other Wikipedias. The English Wikipedia also has a larger, more active community that notices potential issues more likely than on other Wikipedias. I am not involved in the review; please ask Bkissin if you have questions about it. Your message on Bkissin's talk page (Special:Diff/899638853) does not look like a question. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:04, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

I wrote in Blissin page that Criminal Party have at least first criteria. Infact i add some links. The band appears in magazine (ex. maximum r'n'r) and books too, but they are not on line. I asked for what I need to add more. Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 20:00, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, now let's wait for an answer on User talk:Bkissin#Criminal_Party_page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. We'll wait for the answer.

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:35, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I resubmit again the page. I added some more links, one of a book too. Please, check if now it's allright. Thanks


— Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 18:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fab1966, thank you very much for your work. Your draft will be reviewed, but it may take about two months. Over 4000 other drafts are waiting, too.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:03, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I added the links with the references as requested. Please, could you check the page ? Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:51, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fab1966, to solve your help requests in Special:Diff/901202062 and Special:Diff/901530370, I have resubmitted the article for review. A third, uninvolved reviewer will have a look. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, very much. I hope now it's allright !

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:18, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Zahne reviewed the new biography and it wrote the following: Article is a mess. Sourcing consists of dozens of unreadable bare urls with no recognizable reliable sources with in depth coverage.Zanhe (talk) 09:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand what it means, the urls are of dozens of citations and reviewes of the band — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:16, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I added the wikipedia italian link to the english wikipedia page. But I unsderstand, maybe zahne doesn't like how the page is written Please, could you check the page again ? Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 14:40, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fab1966.
Quantity alone does not matter. It is not important if there are 30 or 3 references, as long as the sources are:
  • detailled,
  • reliable and
  • independent.
This does not seem to be the case. If you disagree or have further questions about the review, you may like to:
~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I'll try it. Last time Bliss never answered !! Please, could you tell me why the sources are not: detailled,reliable and independent ? Of course, I didn't wrote the article but indipendent journalist in different magazines !!! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:18, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, which are the three best sources? Press releases do not count (WP:42 / WP:GNG). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I added some interviews' links. The other are reviews, not press release. The reviews are after the space of the interviews' links. Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 23:14, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, which are the three best sources? :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 06:06, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I added realible sources with interviews, I don't understand what's happening on publishing the Criminal party's page. Thanks

--Fab1966 (talk) 17:08, 1 July 2019 (UTC)Fabio

Fab1966, which are the three best sources according to WP:42? The three best sources you can find? Please list them here, and I will provide feedback for these three sources. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

I've already added them and signed as you suggested. Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 16:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, I'm not the reviewer, but if you'd like me to provide feedback, please give me three links to the best sources you can find, here on my talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:37, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

As I wrote and signed in the biography, I listed the followings: Garagerocktopia: ONDA ALTERNATIVA INTERVIEW: ROCKEVOLUTION INTERVIEW: ARTISTI MUSICA INTERVIEW:


--Fab1966 (talk) 20:48, 2 July 2019 (UTC)Fabio 2/7/19

Fab1966, thank you very much for these four links.
  • The three interviews are not independent from the article subject.

    "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it.
    — WP:GNG, point 4

    We need sources that are independent from the subject of the article. Not: articles written by the topic (including interviews), paid for by the topic, their website, or their organization.
    — WP:42, (over)simplified explanation of WP:GNG. Emphasis mine.

    Interview text has not been written by an independent source.
  • The "" blog is a low-quality self-published source and likely relied heavily on input by the band to be able to create an article about them. It is not an independent source because the blog is very likely to have published the band's statements without doing independent research, fact-checking and verification.
Fab1966, if these are the four best sources available on the internet, the band can not have an article on the English Wikipedia. An essay that explains this problem can be found at WP:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:49, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. I really don't understand what it means "indipendent" for wikipedia. We didn't pay nobody for the Criminal Party's reviews, articles and interviews. We have reviews in notable magazines as Maximum rock'n'roll, Rockerilla, Rumore and so on and a video interview by radio revolution. Please, could you send me some links as explanation ? Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 09:06, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, who is "we"? Have you been a band member? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes. We had several articles in the past too, but of course there was not internet and they are only in newspaper. I add others links. The first is a book about the history of rock in Palermo and of course Criminal Party is cited.The third magazines cited the last Criminal Party's album one of the best of 2017:

Palermo al tempo del vinile: ROCKEVOLUTION INTERVIEW: MUSIC MAP BEST 2017:


Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 08:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Fab1966, I should have noticed this earlier. The English Wikipedia has a conflict of interest guideline about this issue.
If you would like to continue submitting the article for review, please do the following things first:
Afterwards, feel free to cite the newspapers in your article (Help:Referencing for beginners). Live help can be found at Wikipedia:IRC help disclaimer.
Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:18, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Fab1966, thank you very much for taking this step even after all the long work, and after such disappointment. I'm sorry that we have taken much of your time and caused you to invest a lot of work before we noticed this issue. If you would ever like to participate in other parts of the project, feel free to check out the Wikipedia Adventure, or our community portal. Similarly, the Italian Wikipedia offers a Portale Comunità.

I'll move our discussion to my talk page archive, but feel free to ask if there are any further questions. Especially feel free to ask for help regarding participation in other areas of the English Wikipedia.

Best wishes, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:48, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

This discussion ended at User talk:Fab1966, with:

The draft has been blanked by its author at Special:Diff/905310519, but I'm not requesting deletion per WP:G7 because it would be neither necessary nor tactful for me to end it that way. The draft will automatically be deleted six months after the last edit, and can be restored on simple request by anyone, at any time in the future. The work is not lost; perhaps an independent editor even manages to prove notability in the future.

Best wishes, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:56, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry to have delected the paper, but it's wright somebody else will try to submit again it. I hope it wasn't a total lost of time !! Thanks

Fabio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fab1966 (talkcontribs) 12:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


Hallo! Gibt es eine Möglichkeit des Halbschutzes des Artikels oder ähnliches? Der Name wird immer wieder eingefügt, so auch diese Nacht. Ich kenne mich in der englischsprachigen Wikipedia zu wenig aus. Danke und Gruss KurtR (talk) 17:16, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey KurtR, danke für die Nachfrage! Ja – normalerweise wird Seitenschutz auf WP:RFPP beantragt, aber in diesem Fall ging es um private Informationen, die (nach einiger Diskussion hinter den Kulissen) inzwischen tatsächlich mit Oversight aus den Logbüchern entfernt werden. Daher habe ich diese im IRC-Channel #wikipedia-en-revdel auf Freenode gemeldet und dabei Deine Nachfrage nach Seitenschutz erwähnt. Die wurde dann auch umgesetzt, war also sinnvoll und berechtigt.  
In hoffentlich nicht allzu ferner Zeit wird WP:RFPP vereinfacht; momentan benötigt man noch Twinkle, um dort einigermaßen komfortabel Seitenschutz beantragen zu können.
PS: Falls Du zur WikiCon 2019 kommen möchtest, gäbe es dort wenigstens eine Person, mit der ich in der Wikipedia zu tun hatte. Du bist herzlich eingeladen.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:51, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Danke für Deine Antwort und die Einleitung der Massnahmen, super. Ich möchte mich gar nicht zu sehr in die Wiki-Regeln der engl. Wikipedia einlesen, da ich nur wenig hier aktiv bin. Warum bist Du vorallem hier tätig und vernachlässigt die deutschsprachige? :-)
Wird leider nichts mit der WikiCon, sorry. Viele Grüsse KurtR (talk) 22:00, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Gerne :) In der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia gibt es zu wenig Arbeit für Vandalenjäger wie mich.   Es gibt dort zwar fast halb so viele Artikel wie hier, aber weniger als ein Viertel der Bearbeitungen. Rund um die Uhr wird hier über eine Bearbeitung pro Sekunde getätigt – auch dann, wenn in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia gerade ein Großteil der Benutzer schläft.
Außerdem gefällt mir die offene, internationale Arbeitsatmosphäre hier besser. Alle Nicht-Muttersprachler, und davon gibt es hier deutlich mehr als auf dewiki, haben eine Fremdsprache erlernt und benutzen diese freiwillig. Das siebt, auch wenn das ein trauriges Qualitätskriterium ist, einige Menschen aus, mit denen ich auf dewiki nichts zu tun haben möchte.
Ich habe den Eindruck, dass enwiki mit Trollen, Halbwahrheiten und Theoriefindung besser klarkommt als dewiki. Richtlinien sind in "Policies" (streng) und "Guidelines" (weniger streng) unterteilt; erstere werden sehr gut durchgesetzt. Dagegen stolpere ich in dewiki gefühlsmäßig zu oft über persönliche Interpretationen von Primärquellen, die es auch dort eigentlich nicht geben dürfte. Vielleicht liegt auch das an der unterschiedlichen Zahl der Augen, die täglich über einen Artikel blicken, und an der kulturellen Diversität der Bearbeiter. Den Hinweis "Dieser Artikel stellt die Situation in Deutschland dar" lese ich in dewiki sehr häufig. Auf enwiki entstehen solche Probleme eher selten, da die Bearbeiter aus der ganzen Welt kommen.
Die sprachliche Unterscheidung zwischen "Du" und "Sie" scheint ebenfalls nicht ganz unproblematisch zu sein. Während "You" beides bedeuten kann, wird in der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia standardmäßig eine Anrede verwendet, die gerade bei der Begrüßung zuvor unbekannter Benutzer eigentlich unangemessen ist. Ich habe den Eindruck, dass das im ganzen Projekt die Hemmschwelle für ad-hominem-Argumente und persönliche Angriffe senkt. Andererseits wirkt die einzige Alternative, "Sie", viel zu distanzierend. Das gezielte Siezen bestimmter Benutzer wird auf dewiki als öffentliche Bekundung von Missgunst eingesetzt. Einen schönen Mittelweg scheint die deutsche Sprache nicht zu bieten. Durch Großschreibung des Wortes "Du", die ich mir momentan mit Schwierigkeiten angewöhne und in Deiner Nachricht bemerke, ist zumindest ein Schritt in die richtige Richtung möglich. Diese Schreibweise scheint aber auf Diskussionsseiten eher eine Seltenheit zu sein und von der Software überhaupt nicht genutzt zu werden.
Schade, dass es mit der WikiCon nichts wird. Mal gucken, ob ich zufällig doch noch jemanden treffe, den ich kenne. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Danke für Deine Ausführungen! Evtl. kommentier ich sie ein andermal, viele Grüsse KurtR (talk) 00:48, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Gerne, und gerne jederzeit, auch falls die Diskussion bereits im Archiv liegt, einfach ansprechen.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:51, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


Greetings, I work for Arlington Christian School as the Director of Communications. I created an account earlier today because I did a google search on the school and saw that some of the information was incorrect. I was able to go in and correct one part, but the second portion that corrected the name of the principal and year of opening was not changed. I received an email that mentioned there may be a conflict of interest because I work at the school, and for that reason, the change may not have gotten in. That makes no sense to me. As Director of Communications, I should be able to edit info on our school. Please advise as to how I can make the changes. The current principal is not Dr. Grace Love. She's the immediate past principal, but the new principal is Dr. Kelvin Griffin. You can verify this by emailing me at You can copy Dr. Griffin at Thanks, --AJDestiny (talk) 22:38, 2 July 2019 (UTC)Alonia Jones

Hi AJDestiny, thank you very much for your correction and your message.
We require verifiability for the addition of new information. The first thing that needs to be updated is the official school website, then Wikipedia, based on the information available from the official website. Wikipedia articles must not contain any information that is not already present in other, reliable sources.
It is not important who makes the correction; there is no need for personal e-mail verification, and nobody owns articles.
As a Director of Communications, you can likely be considered to receive compensation for updating Wikipedia. Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure before making any further edit.
When editing Wikipedia articles, please use the "Cite" button of the editor to allow others to verify the validity of the information.
For further advice, please also see Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations, which may contain answers to open questions. Feel free to ask if anything is unclear after having read the FAQ.
Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:51, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Voodoo Doughnut

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Voodoo Doughnut. Legobot (talk) 04:32, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Andrzej Gawroński (actor)

The IP is a longtime abuser of removing templates on various pages (interesting mostly Polish actors/actresses) that have been under different IP's, so this is something to look out for. Wgolf (talk) 05:38, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Wgolf, interesting. Thank you for the heads-up, I'll keep it in mind. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 08:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Heads up

FYI I added Harry Dodge back to the list of contemporary artists. When I added them back, I thought they were just in one museum collection, but a bit of sleuthing turned up three museum collections. Thanks.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 20:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey ThatMontrealIP, thank you very much   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:29, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your kind help and clean up ISBN. I wish I could offer you a nice cup of green tea. (: --Omotecho (talk) 21:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Hey Omotecho, you're welcome, and thank you for the cookie!   I'd definitely enjoy the offered tea. While the idea reminds me of the unfortunate geographical distance, it also reminds me how fascinating the possibility of even having this conversation is. I'd love to visit Japan one day. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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Atheistbisexual, welcome to Wikipedia. Your addition may be factually correct, but you'll need to prove that this is not original research, please. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

/* Help me! */ seeking rearranging the lines or removal based on furnished data below

Help me!

Heading level increased from h2 to h3 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:48, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

If the 2nd line (According to the The Economic Times he earned close to ₹150 Crores (1,500,000,000) in 2017-18) cannot be removed in , can you help in lowering the line and keep it along with Career paragraph, above Awards and Honors? Suggested removal as the current compensation structure is revised and so this should not be a highlight which is putting Mr Gurnani in bad light. Links that support the current compensation structure are - Link 1: Link 2:

Arun K, Tech Mahindra

CiaPan, would you mind answering this question? The question seems to be directed at you, I personally have no idea.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:42, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
This help request has been answered at User_talk:! by Tigraan (Special:Diff/905911861). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:46, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Notability (people)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Notability (people). Legobot (talk) 04:35, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

A year ago ...
fighting vandalism
... you were recipient
no. 1975 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey Gerda Arendt, thank you very much!   Anniversary notifications are a wonderful idea. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Photo on the "Lindsey Graham" page

The existing photo was one of Joseph McCarthy, not Lindsey Graham. I removed the old one and was trying to upload a new genuine photo of Graham.

Please could you and your team sort this inaccuracy out and ensure a genuine photo of this US Senator is used?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, already done. Thank you very much for removing the incorrect image.  
If you notice a similar error again, feel free to remove the incorrect image without trying to replace it. This ensures that your edit can stay in the article in unmodified form, and the issue will likely be fixed shortly afterwards by experienced users who watch the article.
If you'd like to learn more about how I fixed the problem, feel free to have a look at Help:Reverting. But you are never required to do that; simply removing incorrect information is the easiest way of fixing such problems. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)


Here is the source [14]. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:32, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, this seems to be a primary source; we need to exercise extreme caution when dealing with them. I won't revert your edit, but someone else may do, and if that happens, you'll need to find a secondary source, such as a newspaper article, that clearly confirms the name. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
the Primary Sources, such as Oceania Athletics Federation (OAA), are much more accurate and formal than most of the newspapers in the Pacific, because it includes the details that common newspapers (never) check out, especially there. If you do not think so, you may undo again. Or someone else. I will not care. When I add info, it is never from nowhere. Yours.- (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:48, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
in any case here it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks,; using the "Cite" button of the editor, you can add citations. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Hello There! I am trying to get the Bonetti Kozerski Architecture ready to post on Wikipedia. I am not being paid by them and I do not work for them. Are there any specific changes you recommend to make it ready to post? I would love to chat with you! Please let me know how you would like to proceed. Thank you! -MD Sillaro Valley (talk) 16:38, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, thank you very much for the clarification. If you do not receive, and do not expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you are not required to take any further steps regarding my question, and can ignore it safely.
You may have some kind of connection to the company, however. If this is the case, please explain the situation at User:Sillaro Valley, your user page. You are not required to do so, but Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline points out that you're "expected" to do so, if you have a conflict of interest.
If you have no conflict of interest, you can completely ignore my messages. Alternatively, you may like to explicitly write on your user page that you have no connection to the company at all.
Thank you very much in advance.  
The message one section above was in reply to a different user; I have removed your reply to avoid confusion. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

User page/Change

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


Is it possible to delete a submission and then put in a new one? Thank you for your advice! Sillaro Valley (talk) 14:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, this depends on what you are trying to do:
  • If you would like to completely re-write a draft about the same subject, you can completely remove all text from the draft (not the review templates), and try again from scratch.
  • If you would like to create a new draft about a different subject, please click here: Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Referencing
I hope this helps – feel free to ask again if I didn't correctly understand the question.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)



Hope you are well.

I don't understand what falls under "soapboxing". I see this as informational rather than promotional. I hope you understand where I am coming from and can allow me to continue to add factual information and edits.

Thank you for taking the time to reach out! I really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchoi102 (talkcontribs) 14:35, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jchoi102, thanks for asking. You seem to have registered solely to make these edits. What is your connection to the subject? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm doing a project and one of the people I'm researching is Bassem Awadallah. Upon looking at his involvements, I noticed that he was involved in Bloomberg's New Economy Forum. I've never used Wiki to personally put information in, and that's the one piece of factual information I know that I can contribute to! It made me excited to FINALLY be able to put info into someone's page (because everything is usually on there anyways), so I looked up more people involved in this forum. From there, I've just been adding that one piece to all the member's pages because it's a true fact that I can actually add myself. It's so rewarding being able to add info, so that's why you've been seeing this consistent addition of what you might have thought was "promotional". I'm sorry if you thought it was soapboxing, but I'm just really excited that I'm able to finally contribute to this website!! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchoi102 (talkcontribs) 14:55, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

(duplicate message removed ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:12, 17 July 2019 (UTC))

Jchoi102, thank you very much for the explanation.   I'm happy to hear that you enjoy editing Wikipedia, and it is definitely not my intention to tarnish this experience.
However, multiple users, including me, have undone these additions. I notice multiple problems that need to be fixed:
  • Without a reliable reference, we can't include this information. Original research is inappropriate on Wikipedia, which is a tertiary, not a primary source. Other Wikipedia articles are not reliable references either (see WP:REFLOOP).
  • The text is not written in a neutral tone. "Group of experts", "Philantrophy", "expertise and leadership" are subjective terms that should not appear in this way in an encyclopedic article.
The proposed addition is promotional in its current form. This may not have been your intention, but this is the result.
I recommend, depending on which learning style you prefer, trying either the WP:Tutorial or the WP:The Wikipedia Adventure to gain more experience about referencing and neutrality before continuing to edit about the original topic. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Would I be able to change the wording of the text I'm adding? Then would I be able to continue my additions? Something along the lines of: " __ is a member of the Bloomberg New Economy Forum Advisory board, a group of executives and leaders across business, government, education, and public and private sectors contributing to the shifting global economy." I can also change the reference website that shows reliable information on the advisory board members!! I would love to hear more examples that would be fine to use! Thank you so much in advance :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchoi102 (talkcontribs) 15:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Jchoi102, while I appreciate the attempt, I stand by my recommendation to gain more experience about neutrality and referencing before asking again. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:03, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

New President at Telus Spark

Hello. I added the link to our new presidents update for Spark. The link is correct as it leads to our website/description of her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptodd1410 (talkcontribs) 19:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ptodd1410, thank you very much for the explanation. I have converted the external link to a citation now.
Please have a look at our FAQ for organizations and avoid editing the article directly in the future. Thanks!   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


Sorry for caps! :D . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptodd1410 (talkcontribs) 19:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Ptodd1410, no worries.
You may like to contact Google if you are concerned about incorrect search results. Sometimes, these are caused by incorrect statements at Wikidata, but the relevant item d:Q7697929 does not appear to contain any statement about the president. Neither does the Wikipedia article contain an incorrect name, as far as I can see, and apparently neither do even the two articles in the French and Portugese Wikipedia (fr, pt).
Please disclose your connection to the company on your user page before making any further edit to the article. If you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you need to do so before making edits anywhere else. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I give up. All we are trying to do is ensure that the correct CEO/Presidents is listed and linked to her info on her business page for Telus Spark in Calgary. I did not write the content, not am I trying to collect money in some way. I am the Marketing and Business Development Director at Spark and I am only in my 3rd week. The president started in March. I will make no further changes. Thanks for all the comments. We will just leave it as is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ptodd1410 (talkcontribs) 20:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Ptodd1410, I'd love to help if the incorrect/old president name is still being displayed on any Wikimedia project. Feel free to tell me if this is the case. At the moment, if I see correctly, Wikipedia has up-to-date information due to a correction made at Special:Diff/906717525. I do now notice that this may have been you too; thank you for your correction, if this is the case. As this is a recent change, you may need to wait a while until websites that rely on Wikipedia have been automatically updated as well.
Directly editing Wikipedia articles is a common mistake by people working in marketing or public relations. As it can lead to very embarrassing situations, such as described at Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia, correction suggestions are instead welcome at Talk:Telus Spark, where I have added the link "request corrections on or suggest content" in an orange information box to allow you to quickly and easily request further corrections.
From my computer, using Google to search for "Telus Spark" does not show any president name, by the way. Perhaps that has been solved in the meantime.
You're welcome; please let me know (or use the link in the orange box) if there is still something incorrect. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Message by 28bachmancharlott

Heading added ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

I didn't mean to do it. My 6 year old sister wrote this. Please don't ban me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 28bachmancharlott (talkcontribs) 23:43, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Heh, 28bachmancharlott. If that's true, she can later say that she has edited Wikipedia since 2019. The permanent link to the contribution can be found at Special:Diff/906748808.
That said, please do not share accounts. If multiple people use the same account, or multiple people know the password to an account, the account needs to be blocked from editing.
If multiple people know the password to this account, you must immediately change it to a password that only you know.
Please take a minute to read our Guidance for younger editors. This is important.
Thank you for your constructive contribution at Special:Diff/906749564.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)


Who are you to edit my comments. I know more about JB SCOTT'S because I was the B in the name and Doug Jacobs was my partner.

Put back what you just deleted before I report you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:2C80:EFB:9573:96C8:2DAE:8B61 (talk) 23:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi 2600:8801:2C80:EFB:9573:96C8:2DAE:8B61, this seems to be a clear case of original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia.
Please also have a look at our conflict of interest guideline. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:00, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Dude Stop this is being very rude — Preceding unsigned comment added by 28bachmancharlott (talkcontribs) 23:54, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey 28bachmancharlott, thank you very much for caring about civility. However, the message by 2600:8801:2C80:EFB:9573:96C8:2DAE:8B61 is relatively harmless compared to other messages I sometimes receive when dealing with vandalism.
May I recommend trying the Wikipedia Adventure? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:00, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Codex Digital

I got your message about conflict of interest. I did work for Codex Digital but left at the end of 2016. So I'm not sure why you perceive a conflict on interest.

SPriestnall (talk) 01:24, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi SPriestnall, thank you very much for the explanation. This is possibly a connection that should be disclosed at User:SPriestnall.
At least it seems to (have) strongly affect(ed) your neutrality towards the company.

Editors with a COI are sometimes unaware of whether or how much it has influenced their editing.
— Wikipedia:Conflict of interest

The removed text looks like an advertisement rather than an encyclopedic article, and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to qualify for inclusion. "Emmy Award winning", "high-performance", "in support of the leading", "unique", "leading"... Are you sure that your connection to this topic has not severely affected your neutrality?
While writing this, I noticed that the non-neutral text has apparently been copied from . That's not better, but at least there is hope regarding your ability to write neutral text about the company, if you actually do so in your own words. It doesn't surprise me that text copied from a marketing website is not suitable for the encyclopedia; it somehow relieves me that this is apparently not your own work.
Please request any further changes at Talk:Codex Digital and/or use a "userspace draft" as described on your user talk page, User talk:SPriestnall, in my COI advice.
Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:56, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Just so I'm clear, you'd rather have old, inaccurate information than something written by someone who knows the company. Everythin is entirely factual and with citations. Emmy Award winning is a fact.
SPriestnall (talk) 02:51, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
SPriestnall, we'd rather have no information than unverified promotion. Feel free to remove incorrect statements at any time, citing WP:BURDEN in your edit summary. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:52, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
But how to update it then? I felt like I backed everything up with citations.
SPriestnall (talk) 02:55, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Indentation fixed for above comments ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
SPriestnall, even facts can be presented in a promotional way, and this has clearly been done. For example, giving undue weight towards positive statements is inappropriate. To allow you to easily and quickly request changes to the article, I have added a "request corrections on or suggest content" link to Talk:Codex Digital. You may do that instead, so that an experienced reviewer (not me, if that relieves you) can discuss the changes with you before implementing them. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:00, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Do I need to include quotations

Hello! I am going to enter a new submission. Must it include codes and footnotes? Thank you! Sillaro Valley (talk) 14:11, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, I'll need to ask this first: About which topic? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Resubmitting a potential entry

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello! I am going to resubmit an entry for Bonetti Kozerski Architecture to make it sound more neutral and better for your editorial mission. Sillaro Valley (talk) 20:17, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Ah. Sillaro Valley, that draft is already submitted for review. You can change it at any time without having to click the "Resubmit" button again. Just change the text in any way you like to. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

New entry

Himid like to do an entry for can you help? It’s an arts charity thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:04, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, as I have answered at User talk:Taleggio19, Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause. We require significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable secondary sources to write a Wikipedia article.
If you can prove that such sources exist, you can add a request to the following page:
If you do not provide multiple, detailled, independent sources, your request will be removed. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:48, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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About Football Player Robin Gurung.

I am very Sorry That I Made Mistakes. I want help from u.i want to know how can i edit mean how can i put a photo in nepali football player in Wikipedia.and how can i put notable people option in Wikipedia.from my place there is 3 , 4 top actor actress and musician so i want to put there name.plz help me .and sorry again i apologise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nimesh Bajagain (talkcontribs) 09:41, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nimesh Bajagain, no worries.   Your question seems to have been answered at Special:Diff/907794715. Please let me know, or ask again at the Teahouse, if something is still unclear. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:31, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Regarding my pubished content on Wikipedia


Thanks for suggesting me changes on my published content on wikipedia. While i am trying to create a wikipedia page for Pradip Burman found my submission is declined by you on 23rd-July. while i am chaking my content i found this is a relevent information for all the users,as he was chairman of Dabur group.

And whaterever the content published by me on wikipedia is truly based on the information or with proper references .

I reupdate some content on my published page and resubmit my content again on Wikipedia page.Kinldy reconside my request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksumit81 (talkcontribs) 12:11, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ksumit81, the article has been resubmitted for review. Someone else than me will review the article and provide independent feedback. Please have a look at WP:42, which explains my concern in easy words. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:33, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter Rex (July 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MJL was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
MJLTalk 18:07, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Hello, ToBeFree! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! –MJLTalk 18:07, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
@MJL: I think you should post this to User talk: TBF never created the article, he just submitted it. Masum Reza📞 18:11, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
@Masumrezarock100: Already did.  MJLTalk 18:13, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Heh, thanks to you two. I didn't even submit it. All I did was providing a button for easy submission, as I often do in response to IRC help requests. Instead of using the button, the user noticed how the template parameters could be modified to "submit" an article and did so without changing the username. I have not seen that before. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:18, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation. Legobot (talk) 04:32, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding HFT

Hi tobefree, I added the information, which is from the popular book of Harris, on microstructure of market, but the information in the book does not completely reflect the information I added. However, if you google the name you will see plenty of items on fraud and Berny maddoff, I don't know why you need reference for it. however, i do think the information could be edited for improvement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WillFran (talkcontribs) 02:42, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi WillFran, feel free to add a "new section" to Talk:High-frequency trading with the links you have found via Google, so that we can evaluate their reliability. The Wikipedia community cares a lot about verifiability; a Google results page itself is not a reliable source. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:55, 1 August 2019 (UTC)


Heading added ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

My contribution on Lancelot is my own theory based on my own knowledge of European, including Arthurian, history and literature, language patterns, knowing Latin, French and Spanish and having a passing acquaintance with Italian. If you look at Latin words ending with "-us" and then look up their translation into Spanish or Italian, almost all of them remain the same except that the "-us" becomes "-o". In French phonetics, "-ot" on the end of a word is pronounced "-ō". "-ell-" or "-cell-" is a diminutive in Latin. Lancelot is not part of the earliest Arthurian literature but appears first in French retellings of the Arthurian legend, as your article tells. The real Arthur reigned in the late 5th century, going into the early 6th century. Both in Britain and in Gaul/France, Latin names were still in fairly common use, especially among aristocracy. While in modern French, the name of the Frankish chieftain who conquered most of Gaul, creating France is "Clovis", that is a later adaptation of his actual name, Chlodwig (also the source of the German name "Ludwig"). [1]So the "d"of "Claudas" would not conflict with the name "Clovis." Again, "au" and "o" are pronounced the same in French. "Claudas" is almost certainly Clovis. In the late forms of the Arthurian literature, including Le Morte d'Arthur, Lancelot is said to be the son of King Ban and nephew of King Bors of Gaul, both of whom were dispossessed by King Claudas--as historically many Roman and Gallic leaders were conquered by Clovis--so he and his cousins (or nephews) Bors, Ector de Maris and Lionel (again notice the "young lion" root) fled Gaul to Britain, and wound up in Arthur's court..[2] Lancelot and his relatives were not there for the final battle at Camlann between King Arthur and Mordred. Unfortunately I had to break up my library when I moved to my present location, and most of my books on Arthur and the history of the late 5th century are no longer in my possession. I am a theologian by occupation and so books on theology, especially Lutheran theology, and church history had to take precedence. Kenneth Howes, J.D., M.Div. 2600:6C44:217F:FD07:38EA:FF45:E0B:E63B (talk) 19:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)


  1. ^ Edward Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
  2. ^ Sir Thomas Malory, Le Morte d'Arthur, Vol. I, ed. Janet Cowen (London: Penguin Classics, 1986), 118

Reference syntax fixed, {{Reflist-talk}} added ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:26, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

2600:6C44:217F:FD07:38EA:FF45:E0B:E63B, Wikipedia does not publish original research nor personal knowledge. Wikipedia is a tertiary source, an encyclopedia that summarizes what secondary, published, reliable, independent sources say about a topic. Research based on primary sources is not acceptable for this encyclopedia. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

RE Waiheke Island - external links

Hi @ToBeFree - I have put most of the links as references and only left the most obvious ones (pdf timetable). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justbecause09 (talkcontribs) 00:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Justbecause09, thank you very much for taking the time to do this. The result looks good.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you for helping me edit.

Thank you for helping me edit the abella danger wikipedia profile. If you would like to, feel free to update the number of performances. I try to update when I'm able to, periodically. If you would like to add a few more news related articles also, I don't mind you doing so. I helped create the profile but she is so active in everything, that it is hard to update the profile. I try to update as long as she is active of course. Thank you.

Scenicview1 (talk) 00:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC)scenicview1

Hi Scenicview1, you're welcome. I think I was only patrolling the recent changes, and decided to remove challenged and unnecessary information from the article. I have no specific involvement in that topic, though. Feel free to make further improvements; feel free to add news articles and thank you very much for updating the page periodically.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:40, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page? Thank you so much!


We re-submitted our entry for Bonetti Kozerski Architecture. Does it work editorially for Wiki? Do we need to enter the text into quotation marks?

Cheers, Margo

Hi Margo, who is "we"?   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:36, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

In repsonse!

Headings converted to subheadings; duplicate text removed

"We" is Me. Margo, nice to meet you! :)

Sillaro Valley (talk) 16:21, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Me questions is format

Hello again!

I have been working on formatting and I wanted to know if I need to include all quotations for my sources? Thank you! Margo Sillaro Valley (talk) 16:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Margo, do you really have no connection to the company? None at all?
Please edit the text of the draft directly, instead of creating new text at the bottom of the article.
The article has been submitted for review, but as you will notice when looking at Draft:Bonetti Kozerski Architecture, the old text is still at the top, and new text has unnecessarily been added to the bottom.
When you have corrected this, feel free to let me know. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:41, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I am an architecture geek! This is all new me so I just wanted to be sure. Do I need to include references and external links.? Do I need need to delete everything and then start over? Or do I just need to make the two edits you suggested? Thank you!!! Margo Sillaro Valley (talk) 14:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, please have a closer look at Draft:Bonetti_Kozerski_Architecture.
At the top, there is the article you need to edit and improve.
At the bottom, there is an incorrectly placed raw-text submission.
Please incorporate all your desired changes into the top article and delete the bottom duplicate afterwards. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:35, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi! This is the feedback I have: At the top, there is the article you need to edit and improve. At the bottom, there is an incorrectly placed raw-text submission.

Here is the top: Bonetti/Kozerski Architecture is an international design firm located in New York City.

Founded in 2000 by Italian-born Enrico Bonetti, AIA and British-born Dominic Kozerski, RIBA, the firm’s portfolio spans residential, retail, hospitality, cultural and commercial design. Highlights include projects in collaboration with tastemakers such as Ian Schrager, Andre Balazs, Donna Karan, Rick Rubin, Diego Della Valle, and Arne and Marc Glimcher.

What sort of edit does it need?

For the bottom: How is this incorrectly placed? Forays into the educational and cultural spheres have resulted in two of Bonetti/Kozerski Architecture’s most ambitious projects. The firm designed the interiors for the flagship campus of Avenues: The World School (pre-K to 12th grade), which opened in Manhattan in 2013. It also designed the new headquarters and multi-gallery exhibition space for PACE Gallery, an eight-story 70,000 square foot ground-up building slated to open in the fall of 2019 in New York’s Chelsea neighborhood.

Thank you!

Sillaro Valley (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Sillaro Valley, use your browser's text search function to search for the text "RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS". You will notice that it appears twice on the page. This is because the page contains a duplicate article. Please fix this. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:08, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


I changed the sentence. Did that help?

Margo Sillaro Valley (talk) 18:47, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No. What you did there made the page worse because, for example, you removed all the references. Search the page for the phrase "working with creative and successful individuals" and you'll find it twice: Content is duplicated. That's obviously not how it should be. There should be only one copy of the draft on the page, the one you want reviewers to look at. (By the way, that phrase is one example of the inappropriately promotional tone; Wikipedia shouldn't contain such language at all.) Huon (talk) 20:01, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:32, 8 August 2019 (UTC)


I have several secondary sources for my article to include with our article. Do I need to add them within the article and so you think that will help with giving a neutral tone by adding it? My question is do you think that will be helpful or do we need to work on the article itself more?

The firm gained initial recognition for an apartment in Manhattan's Upper West Side that they designed for fashion designer Donna Karan. [1] [2] [3], marking the beginning of a collaboration that encompassed a house in East Hampton[4] and a vacation compound in Turks and Caicos[5]. From that ensued projects for hotelier Andre Balazs [6] and Italian industrialist Diego Della Valle, cementing a reputation for being able to work with very creative and strong-minded clients[7]. Further residential work includes a barn renovation in the Hamptons [8] and upstate New York [9], as well as multiple retreat beach homes in the Hamptons [10] [11]. Recent projects shifted the focus from private residential to other architectural categories more publicly accessible. In the educational field the firm designed the interiors for the first Avenues World School [12] [13] (pre-k to 12) in Manhattan. In the hospitality field the firm created the interiors for the public areas of the Public Hotel[14] in Manhattan in collaboration with architects Ian Schrager and Herzog & de Meuron, and the interiors for The Asbury Hotel[15] in Asbury Park, NJ. Besides residential and hospitality work, Bonetti Kozerski [16] [17] [18] [19] designs many commercial and corporate spaces such as Ralph Rucci’s headquarters [20], Ford’s modeling agency [21], Laird + Partner’s ad agency [22], and the newly opened Sant Ambroeus cafe in the Upper East Side [23]. Currently under construction are the New York headquarters and exhibition spaces for Pace Gallery[24], slated for completion in 2019.

Sillaro Valley (talk) 16:04, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

@Sillaro Valley: If you have further questions about the review, please ask the reviewers, not me, for clarification. That said, yes, please add the secondary sources within the article, using the "Cite" button of the editor. Adding references has nothing to do with neutrality, though. Text like "reputation for being able to work with very creative and strong-minded clients" is not neutral. If this is not clear, please refrain from submitting the article until you understand why that passage is promotional. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:33, 13 August 2019 (UTC)


I added secondary resources and not mere mentions to the piece for Bonetti/Kozerski. Do they fit for Wikipedia now?

Thank you for your help!

Sillaro Valley (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, you can use the "Resubmit" button to ask for a new review, if you believe that you have fixed the problems pointed out by four independent reviewers. Please note that I have been none of them. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:04, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Follow Up with the Bonetti/Kozerski page? Thank you so much!

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:00, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


I made changes and resubmitted the Bonetti/Kozerski page for Wiki on August 9, 2019. Have you had a chance to review it? Do you need me to resubmit it? It hopefully fulfills your editorial preferences. Thank you very much! Happy Friday!

SV August 16, 2019

Sillaro Valley (talk) 15:14, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, the draft has been, uh, "correctly" submitted for review. I have no idea how to explain that you should submit one draft, and that you should not have two drafts on the same page. Huon has tried to explain this, I have tried to explain this. The text "RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS", for example, currently appears twice on the same page: Draft:Bonetti_Kozerski_Architecture. Why twice? Why not just one text? Edit the page by clicking here:
  • Remove duplicate text
That's it. Then wait for the review to happen. This can take about 8 weeks. Note that I personally will not review your draft, no matter how often you ask. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:48, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

Heading converted to subheading

Thank you for your help with this process.


August 16, 2019 Sillaro Valley (talk) 18:24, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Sillaro Valley, thank you very much for doing this. I was very happy about the general format when I had a look at the draft this time. Regarding neutrality/promotion, and regarding references, a reviewer will decide if the article can now be accepted. If not, the reviewer will provide an explanation on your user talk page.
For reviewer convenience, I have re-added the "declined" comments above the article. These do not affect the review result, but they allow reviewers to quickly get an overview of the situation.
The article will be reviewed within about 8 weeks. It can take longer, it can be quicker, it's random. Eight weeks is only an estimation, but it is usually a good estimation. I wish you all the best, a nice weekend and good luck with the draft. Best regards!   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:31, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: NPOV Westminster

Believe me, Westminster is the classy part of Balga. What, do I have to buy you a plane ticket for you to see for yourself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Westminster surely can be beautiful, but neither of us two can write this in an encyclopedia as if it were an objective fact. As you have correctly indicated in the heading, Special:Diff/911154798 sadly lacks the neutrality that we need to adhere to when building this encyclopedia. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:55, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Guidance Barnstar
For extraordinary efforts to guide people on IRC with respect to conflict of interest editing. Huon (talk) 22:53, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
This is a thing?   It is so beautiful with its compass design. Huon, thank you very much, you made my day. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi ToBeFree

I have a little doubt about the article "Italians"

The article mentions that the Italians are an Ethnic group native to Italy. So, if someone of foreign origin, non-Italian ancestors and birth obtains Italian citizenship is not considered Italian this person? Jacob34T (talk) 10:32, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Jacob34T, I personally don't care about ethnicities and genetics. To me, someone is Italian if they are a citizen of Italy. Regarding the article, I support the removal of potentially biased information, and I thank you for caring about neutrality. I personally prefer to avoid getting involved too deeply in that discussion. Feel free to do what you think is the right thing to do. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry, it was just a question of general culture that has come to me.

Thank you for the support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob34T (talkcontribs) 15:36, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

  You're welcome. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:List of common misconceptions

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:List of common misconceptions. Legobot (talk) 04:34, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-34

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The Signpost: 30 August 2019

Please comment on Talk:The Real Housewives of New York City

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Tech News: 2019-36

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I am not connected to Kieran Simcox please google him and you’ll see he’s a professional cyclist thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyclopedia1997 (talkcontribs) 20:17, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Kieran Simcox

Heading converted to subheading~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Just google the person, I’d seen a video of him racing the the Elite Circuit series — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyclopedia1997 (talkcontribs) 20:52, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, my answer can be found at User talk:Cyclopedia1997. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:12, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Infobox film

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David & Mary Thomson Collegiate Institute

Hello ToBeFree,

             To be honest with you, this is my first time editing a page. I don't understand what you meant by conflict of interest. I literally took 1-2 hrs to add credible information in the page. However, I think you deleted all of that editions. Why? I was trying my best to help others with the credible information. Why did you delete this information? WHYYYYY? I was trying to help parents gather information, so they can see what the school offers. This was a helpful act I have done. But you, who lives far away, don't understand what I have written. The information comes from the school's website and the school's book. How credible is that?


BYE. Kevgeorge275 (talk) 14:12, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Kevgeorge275, it was never my intention to disappoint you, and I'm sorry to hear that this first editing experience has been a negative one.
There are two main problems with the text, one of which I noticed too late:
  • "strong visual links"
  • "safe"
  • "strong and welcoming"
  • "fun activities"
  • "positive habits"
  • "proud to offer this unique […] program"
  • "smooth transition"
  • "opportunity to actively enhance […] leadership skills"
  • "fellow students"
  • "unique classroom experiences"
  • "opportunities"
  • "empower by developing leadership skills"
  • "recognized by international universities as one of the best/flexible programs"
  • "richer, deeper, and more demanding"
  • "university- critical thinking"
This alone was reason enough for me to completely undo your additions for being "not encyclopedic".
  • The additions have, at least in part, been directly copied from (an)other website(s), such as This is a copyright violation; you must use your own words instead.
Regarding your potential conflict of interest (COI), if you are connected to the school in any way, please avoid writing about it.

Editors with a COI are sometimes unaware of whether or how much it has influenced their editing.
— Wikipedia:Conflict of interest

Best regards
~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:06, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Possibly Hostile Editor

Greetings, I thought to inform you that user User talk:UCaetano has began an edit war in Anti-Iranian sentiment. User AntiRacistZwei brought back information that was removed from the article, even providing proper definitions, etc. I cleaned up the citations, grammar, and double checked the sources. User talk:UCaetano as you may have seen on his talk page has not only engaged in Edit-Warring but has notably started them. I've already escalated this to [[Wikipedia] 's Press-Contacts, however, I am not sure how to escalate to moderators as this individual may lie and attempt to place blame on either myself or the other editors, I have exercised good faith to the best of my abilities, however, after looking at their contributions and their past posts, I feel the need to ask for help. Thanks. Rodianreader (talk) 02:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Rodianreader, I appreciate your kind information message. I personally, however, would like to avoid any involvement in this matter. The aforementioned "escalation" does not sound like a good nor effective idea. You may like to have a look at WP:Dispute resolution instead.
That said, if you have any external relation to any of these editors, you need to properly disclose it on your user page or risk being blocked per Wikipedia's policy on sockpuppetry. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Understood. I am attempting to get an Administrator's attention. The other user seems to be passive aggressive and non-helpful. They have threatened to escalate with other users and I do not feel comfortable dealing with them any further. I will comply and escalate through proper channels. Thank you. Rodianreader (talk) 02:22, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Quick question about adding more citations

Hello and good afternoon!

We have a page currently in line to be reviewed. We recently received some new press and wondered if we should add them now? Or wait until we hear back from Wiki? We did not want to lose our place in line. Thank you very much in advance for your help and advice!

Sillaro Valley (talk) 16:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Sillaro Valley, nice to meet you again. :)
Feel free to click "edit" and add anything you like. This will not change the position in the queue. You can always freely do this. Adding links to detailled news articles is indeed a very good thing to do, at any time.
I am a bit confused about your usage of "we" and phrases like "we received new press", as it sounds to me as if you are connected to the article subject. This would be fine, but you should then openly clarify this connection on your user page (the red link in your signature).
You're welcome; have a nice day and good luck with the article.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:48, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Code usage on userspace page

Hey ToBeFree, recently I've taken the content on your dashboard page, moved it over to this page in my userspace, then changed up all the links to meet my purposes. I used your page as the template, then changed the content due to the formatting and design done on it and how it was already set up to be a link holder page. If you have any problems with me using this, just tell me and I'll CSD it for you. Redactyll Social pub of talking 17:51, 28 August 2019 (UTC) at 17:51, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey Redactyll, nice to meet you again!  
It made me very happy to see the page creation appearing in an IRC channel, pinging me because it had my username in the edit summary. I greatly value Wikipedia's licensing policy, and not only do I consciously release all of my contributions under a free license because I have to: I'd always do so because it makes me happy whenever someone actually reuses my contributions.
Enjoy your dashboard! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:37, 28 August 2019 (UTC)


Hey,ToBeFree I like your dashboard. Could you please make one such dashboard for me?Andrew Base (talk) 03:39, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Andrew Base, thank you very much, I'm glad you like it!  
At User:Andrew Base/Dashboard, feel free to customize it in any way you like. For example, the de.wikipedia link may be irrelevant, but you may have a personal idea for a replacement. Some of the red links can automatically be filled by Twinkle (CSD log, PROD log) if the tool is configured to do so (Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences).
Happy editing! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:33, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

ToBeFree Thank you very much.Andrew Base (talk) 04:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

No COI for my recent edits

Hi ToBeFree. Thank you for your concern but I have no COI when correcting the URLs on the page New Zealand Diplomatic Missions, other than that I used to be employed by NZ MFAT but have been retired for more than two years. The previous URLs by each NZ Embassy, High Commission or Consulate/Consulate-General linked to Wiki info on the city where the mission is located, rather than the implied mission's official website, which is much more useful and interesting for a reader seeking detailed information on the mission in question. If I have misunderstood the reason for the links, then my apologies. Kev.bonnici (talk) 12:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Kev.bonnici, nice to meet you, thank you for the explanation and your edits.
I have to admit that I figured as much: The (previous) employment is exactly what I assumed when I saw the edits. This does not inherently make these edits problematic, but it makes the COI information page a (tiny) bit more relevant for you than for completely uninvolved editors. This does not mean that you do have a conflict of interest, and it does not mean that you are restricted in any way from editing related articles. The amount of conflict here seems to be pretty low, but it has interestingly lead to a situation where I had to undo your good-faith improvement efforts on List of diplomatic missions of New Zealand. For me personally, that's not a problem and involved only a few clicks. There had also never been any noticeable damage to the article, the edits just did not conform to Wikipedia's external link guideline, which advises against the addition of external links to an article's text body.
Generally, if a Wikipedia article exists about a topic, Wikipedia should link to that article. If none exists, Wikipedia can link to the non-existing article, and the link will be red instead of blue. Anyone can then create the missing article; this is how the encyclopedia grew in the first place. If no article exists and the topic is not notable, then no link at all should be added.
The only correct usage of external links in an article body is using them as references for information. Simply adding links, even in form of "references" without adding actual information cited from them, may seem to be useful and interesting, but is actually adverse to the free encyclopedia's interests.
No worries, Kev.bonnici; I hope you do enjoy editing Wikipedia despite this first experience. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Can you edit the mistakes on the page where you've undone all my edits

Heading converted to subheading ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi again,

I think I'll pass on editing Wikipedia as it's all a bit restrictive - saying one has a potential COI just because one had extensive knowledge of the subject due to previous hands-on experience is a little off-putting. Surely Wiki should welcome subject-matter-experts.

However, it would be good if you could correct the following errors on the List of New Zealand Diplomatic Missions:

- in the NZ context, there are NO honorary consulates: the term 'honorary' qualifies the person performing the role. All NZ consular missions are 'consulates or consulates-general [note correct plural] headed by either a career diplomat or an honorary consul / honorary consul-general'.

- why do photos of certain NZ diplomatic missions figure indiscriminately under the paragraph 'Africa'? I had created a separate paragraph 'Photos of NZ diplomatic missions', but this got wound back to the original layout.

- you should remove the brackets containing (Embassy), (High Commission), (Consulate) etc. after each country where NZ has a diplomatic mission because, as I mentioned in my previous message, a normal English reader would expect the link to take one to more information on the diplomatic mission concerned, not to general Wiki information on a geographical city. In fact, I don't know what purpose this list of country flags and links to cities serves, as a simple paragraph under each region stating 'NZ currently has diplomatic and consular missions in the following countries: ...' would suffice. It would be preferable to somehow link to NZ's official government department, MFAT, to ensure this list is up-to-date. I think I noticed in the history paragraph of this topic that NZ closed its mission in Vienna - you'll find on MFAT's website that there is currently a mission in Vienna!

Thanks and good luck with encouraging people to do this onerous editing in their free time 😉 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kev.bonnici (talkcontribs) 13:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Kev.bonnici, thank you for requesting these edits.
  • After the message "External links in article text" on User talk:Kev.bonnici, but before my reply above, Special:Diff/913663685 happened. I'll undo it, assuming that you had not seen the former message and only received a notification after saving your changes.
  • Thank you very much for the requested correction; I was not aware of this distinction. I have removed the text "excluding honorary consulates" together with its inaccessible (dead link) reference. The addition of new text requires a new reference (WP:V).
  • Regarding the photos, the "separate photograph" was an empty one with no text, and the section below the new heading is not mainly about photos. Please have a look at Special:PermanentLink/913660100 for the incorrectly formatted result. I could have converted the headings "Africa" etc. to subheadings, but there was no reason to do so: The "Africa" section is no a photo section, it is a list of diplomatic missions. The photos just happen to appear next to it; to actually fix this problem, the photo selection could be modified to match the actual article content: The "Africa" section could contain photos from Africa, for example. I do not believe that there is a need for a separate gallery if the photo selection is improved.
  • The article is a list of diplomatic missions and should ideally contain (internal, not external) links to other Wikipedia articles about these missions. In its current form, I completely agree that the list is a suboptimal list of countries, not missions. However, the way to fix this is not the removal of the only information that is actually relevant to the list. We would probably rather remove all country links instead of removing the text in the brackets. That said, if something in the list is factually incorrect, please remove the factually incorrect content, but do not add any new text in the process. Afterwards, if you do want to add new text, please do so in a separate edit and provide a reliable reference that supports your addition, using the "Cite" button of the editor.
  • The "History" paragraph of List of diplomatic missions of New Zealand does not mention "Vienna". Is there something factually incorrect in the History paragraph? Feel free to remove it.
Any further content-related requests about articles should ideally be made at the talk page of the article. To do so, click "Talk" above any article you'd like to discuss, and "New section" to add a discussion topic. If you are explicitly requesting a specific change, you may like to use {{request edit}} to notify experienced volunteer reviewers about the request. The edit will then usually be implemented or discussed with you within a day or two. You are not required to do this, but it can't hurt either. If you choose to do so, please also click the red link in your signature, which points to your user page, and take a moment to explain there that you likely have no conflict of interest but have worked for New Zealand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade in the past. This avoids confusion, as it clarifies that the connection is a relatively distant one, contrary to those who edit Wikipedia on behalf of their employer.
If there are any questions left about Wikipedia and/or editing in general, feel free to ask here; if there are questions left about article content, feel free to ask on the article's talk page. Do feel free to inform me about new discussions; I will happily have a look. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Adam Jones (American football)

Not sure what is going on but the same edit was made several times yesterday by another IP [40]. ?? S0091 (talk) 18:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Oh, with two "s". I see. Well then, a good reason for the removal is "unsourced" per WP:PROVEIT.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Quirks and Quarks Edit

Thanks for your message - I was unaware that a citation was required. However, I am the son of the creator of the series and my mother doesn't know how to edit Wiki entries so I offered to do it for her. The reference was 100% correct but if a citation is required I'll go figure out how to add one and redo the edit.

- R.F. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you're welcome. Please note that, according to your message, you may have a conflict of interest. Please take a moment to have a look at the WP:Conflict of interest guideline, and please mention your conflict of interest in the edit summary of each edit you're making about this topic. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:01, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm adding the link back in for John D. Liu

This is his organization, I don't understand why you removed the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WriterlyKi (talkcontribs) 15:48, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand why this is not an appropriate link

This is HIS group and as he currently has no website, why is this link not allowed? It is absolutely verifiable. WriterlyKi (talk) 15:55, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

The second removal wasn't even done by me, WriterlyKi.  
The reason is simple: Wikipedia does not have external links in the article body. We prefer links to other articles if they exist, links to non-existent articles if they should exist, or no link if neither is the case. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:57, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

So you are saying someone needs to create a separate page for this organization on Wikipedia, and link to it instead?

The user who deleted the last edit just deleted themselves, after deleting the edit. Great community you all have.

This is his organization, and they are trying to grow. Do you have suggestions then, should they write their own Wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WriterlyKi (talkcontribs) 16:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi WriterlyKi,
Deleted themselves? If you're referring to the red user page link, you can safely ignore that. Serols is an active, experienced editor. You can contact them on their user talk page, User talk:Serols. Nobody "deleted themselves".
No, they should not write "their own" Wikipedia page, as they have a conflict of interest regarding the topic, and as the topic may not be notable yet (see WP:42 for an oversimplified explanation). If the organization is notable, an uninvolved editor will write about it sooner or later. If you have any connection to the organization, you should not do so yourself. See also: Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations.
Wikipedia is not a platform for advertising; if an organization is trying to grow, they must not use Wikipedia to do so. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:25, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Request for protection page

Hy can you protect this page Religion in Pakistan an IP user changing information without sources & reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:35, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm moving your request to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:37, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
This is for your valuable efforts for countering Vandalism and protecting Wikipedia from it's threats. I appreciate your effort. You are a defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 16:39, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey Path slopu, thank you very much!  
Sent via Huggle, very interesting. I think I have only yet sent a custom message once, but I could use the feature more often as well. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Message by Bigmancambo

why i must ask have you edited the tomos watkins page Bigmancambo (talk) 00:14, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bigmancambo, thanks for asking. This seems to be about Special:Diff/916095238.
I believe that the article does not need a list of beers, especially not without citations.
The article could be improved by adding encyclopedic text, not pure lists. It is not meant to be an advertisement catalogue nor a substitute for the company's website. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:20, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


You have talked to me [41]? It would be polite to remove the warning from my discussion page.--Marghilos (talk) 16:38, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Marghilos, sorry and welcome to Wikipedia. I have already removed the incorrect warning and restored your edit.
I seem to have clicked the revert button 1-2 seconds after you, which is normally prevented by a whitelist. It may be the account age (4 days) or the edit count (<500) or both that made the usual safety mechanisms fail to prevent my error. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:44, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


I can't believe I forgot to sign my vote on "RFC on Sorting of Names with Particles" on MOS, thanks for correcting that for me. Do I leave the signature as is now, or do I go and correctly sign? AnAudLife (talk) 19:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi AnAudLife, no worries. If it bothers you, feel free to replace the automatic signature by yours, probably easiest by copying your signature from here and modifying time and date. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:45, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I went ahead and fixed it, I wouldn't want anyone to think I was avoiding signing, thanks for your help. AnAudLife (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks good, AnAudLife, you're welcome. I think I would have done the same.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:02, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Message from Antiracistzwei

Greetings! Thank you for welcoming me. I am actually rather new to this and am not very computer savvy, though I have a decent amount of writing experience (having graduated with a writing BA). Please share any tips that you may have. Lastly, the other user AhbiMukh seemed to be exercising poor-faith/bad-faith, as I had citations as well as sources for my edits. They made an Ultimatum demanding I "stop vandalizing" or that I'd be reprimanded. That was uncalled for. What would you recommend in the future? -ARZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antiracistzwei (talkcontribs) 03:31, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Antiracistzwei, nice to meet you. The matter has – in an overreaction, I'd say – been escalated to WP:AIV. If the report is still present there when you read this text, do not respond to the report in any way; I have already noted that it is probably unnecessary. The report will be removed automatically. I'll have a closer look at this later today, perhaps in about 12 hours or so. Until then, I recommend having a look at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and starting a discussion at the talk page of the article. To do so, click "Talk" above any article you'd like to discuss, and "New section" there. Describe concisely in neutral, calm words, without talking about user conduct, and only addressing the article content, why you would like to implement which changes, and which sources support the addition. That alone should already nicely resolve the conflict. Feel free to invite the other user to the discussion by adding a short, neutral message on their user talk page, inviting them to join the discussion. Provide a link to the article's talk page for them to have a look. Thanks.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:44, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
The AIV report has been declined in Special:Diff/916289956, mostly for procedural reasons (wrong noticeboard), but also noting that the underlying report reason was probably invalid.
That said, it can't hurt if I wait before responding to this further. I may not even have to add anything later. All necessary instructions for de-escalation are present in my previous answer. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 04:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello @Antiracistzwei:, I have no problem with your edits. When I reverted your edit, it was like this, it was not properly cited and seemed like vandalism. The only thing that bothers me is your comment "Your actions will be documented. Just a headsup". It would be better if maintain civility. If you have any problems(even with my actions), you can ask me on my talk page, I will be glad to resolve it out. Thank you and happy editing. AbhiMukh97(Speak)(Contribs) 04:07, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Issue has been de-escalated. Thank you ~ ToBeFree, [[User talk:AbhiMukh97|] has cleared things up with me. I did, however, fix the edit after noticing it myself (making sure my citations are air-tight). We are currently in a hot political climate and there may be individuals trying to erase Anti-Iranian sentiment in order to erase history. Please check Anti-Iranian_sentiment as well. I have been keeping track of that page as a non-user since I was in highschool (I am now a college graduate) and the Joker (from Batman) reference was removed, for example. In Mass media, my ethnic group has been targeted for very evil reasons, often times, as a means of pushing for our linguistic and other-wise extermination. I appreciate any help in preserving history as well as casting light on those who seek to erase us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antiracistzwei (talkcontribs) 01:26, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

My change to the portuguese language page

I just copied it from the Spanish phonology page, which I assumed was sourced. Now I check I realise it wasn't sorry. Ewokpedia (talk) 17:31, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ewokpedia, no worries. If something is sourced on the Spanish Wikipedia, please copy the citation as well. Thanks   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:34, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Kk I will remember to use citations next time   Ewokpedia (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2019 (UTC) I just realised how stupid i am Ewokpedia (talk) 19:39, 19 September 2019 (UTC) Now I'm just confused if I changed the portuguese one or spanish one XD Ewokpedia (talk) 19:42, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ewokpedia: Nah, don't worry, take your time.   I'm unsure if I can help at the moment, but if there is a specific question, feel free to ask. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Add the otpc controversial topics

I don't work for Boomtown


I'm a normal I don't work for Boomtown Fair.....I love the festival and am editing it to make it more complete.

I'm editing from my work PC so a shared IP.


Chris B — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Chris B, thank you very much for the response. Please also consider whether you may have a conflict of interest, depending on your connection to the festival. If you don't, you may ignore this message, and I wish you happy editing. Please note that very long lists are unlikely to be encyclopedically useful, and that inline citations should be used to prove statements. I have removed the huge "Artists" lists, but apart from this, I do not see other issues. The rewriting of the "Incidents" section seems to be an improvement towards a neutral point of view. Thank you for doing this. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Messages by

You've weakened the article. You've made it less intelligent and informative. Original research was NOT done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:33, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

You weakened the article. You made it less intelligent and informative. Now people don't know where business cycles come from. This point is neither original nor research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, this seems to be about Special:Diff/916831202 and Special:Diff/916831677.

All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports[2] the contribution.[3]

~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Oops, undid your good edit

Sorry about that--an edit conflict meant I managed to undo your edit instead of the original test edit. I should have previewed before committing. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 19:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Mark viking, no worries! As you can see at #Bioaccumulation, it happens to me too.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Sutton Grammar School.

Hi, ToBeFree, I have added a reliable source. I am a student at the school. Thank you for pointing out, im new to Wikipedia and I was not fully aware of citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KeeranKiru (talkcontribs) 19:37, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi KeeranKiru, thank you very much!  
You may like to have a look at Special:Diff/917683064: Using the visual editor, this is currently impossible to do, as far as I know. I have used the "source code" editor to move the citation to the right place. You can access the source code editor by clicking the pencil icon at the top right of the visual editor.
Usually, the visual editor is a powerful tool to quickly make changes while seeing what happens in front of the scenes. Rarely, in cases such as this one, when adding a citation to an infobox parameter, the source editor can be very useful to control what happens behind the scenes. Feel free to experiment with it at WP:Sandbox; try all the interesting features it offers. Try creating some deliberately incorrect code. Try creating headings with only the left or right half of the "=" that are normally needed. Try starting bold text somewhere, but not closing it anywhere. Try adding images and bulleted lists. And try what happens when you add "~~~~" to a page. Experiment and have fun. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:47, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

You won't win so don't try

I'll change anything you edit right back again so don't even bother.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:35, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you seem to have announced interest in an edit war in Special:Diff/917784061, likely regarding Boomtown Fair; that means that you are considering to repeatedly change content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen or know that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Points to note:
  1. Edit warring is, and will always be, disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:32, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Boomtown Fair#45,000 bytes of band names

  You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Boomtown Fair#45,000 bytes of band names. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:56, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

An award for you!!!!

  CVU Anti-Vandalism Award
This is for your excellent performance in saving Wikipedia from the harmful threats of vandalism. I appreciate your efforts and hardwork. You are a bold defender of Wikipedia. Thank you. PATH SLOPU 10:58, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey Path slopu, thank you very much for the award!   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your service. May you help me reword that statement to be more neutral? FlamboyantPotato (talk) 20:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Hey FlamboyantPotato, thank you very much for asking, and for the barnstar.  
I assume this is about Special:Diff/918902740. The article describes the term "ugly Christmas sweater" as colloquial; Wikipedia as an encyclopedia does not use such colloquial language in its own voice.
If reliable sources are provided and doing so does not add undue weight towards the colloquialism, it may be appropriate to describe the sweater the way it already is. The addition, on the contrary, is not encyclopedic in its original form.
Your question is how to "reword" the statement, but the question seems to contain an incorrect implication. Rewording the statement alone can likely not fix the larger issue.
To avoid laying undue weight on the matter in the lead section of the article, I recommend adding such information elsewhere, if at all. It already seems to be present in the article:

Ugly Christmas Sweater Contests are held annually in the United States.[9]
— Christmas jumper, revision 918902740

The "ugly sweater" colloquialism is also mentioned in the lead already, as much as necessary. I think the article is fine as it is.
If this answer is unsatisfactory and you would like to discuss the topic, feel free to create a "New section" on the talk page of the article, Talk:Christmas jumper. Afterwards, feel free to invite me to the discussion.
If you agree, there's nothing left to do; you may like to try The Wikipedia Adventure or have a look at our community portal. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:59, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for your clarification regarding my Steven Crowder edit. I'm not terribly experienced with editing Wikipedia; this is actually my first "Talk Page" message. Per your suggestion, I have removed the word "frequently" from the aforementioned edit. Hunkybuck (talk) 08:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Hunkybuck, no problem; thanks for joining the discussion at Talk:Steven Crowder. Take your time; feel free to ask here or at the Teahouse if technical issues arise. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:47, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!

For this!!! KillerChihuahua 12:17, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For fixing Huggle so editors cannot add IPs who have not been recently warned to the AIV list, thus saving admins watching and working on that list the time and effort required to decline and explain, and leaving them free to spend their time and effort blocking correctly warned and persistent vandals, which is a much better use of their time! Your modification also educates helpful (but a bit too eager) editors about how to best help! Thank you so much. KillerChihuahua 12:28, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Oh hi, you're welcome, KillerChihuahua. Thank you very much for the kind words and the barnstar.  
I guess ideally, for most IP addresses, the "3 days" should even be lowered – but let's see how 3 days work out. It is the status quo, very broadly interpreted. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:03, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree, it might be helpful to reduce the time, but this is a huge step. I was having to decline reports with a "last warning" that was literally several months old. People weren't bothering to check the time/date stamp in their eagerness to Vanquish Vandalstm. So thank you so much. Modifying Huggle is outside my area of expertise. KillerChihuahua 17:11, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
  • Hrm. Two days old warning at aiv KillerChihuahua 20:12, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
    @KillerChihuahua: Interesting, thanks for sharing and for explaining the issue to them. Luckily, at least such obvious cases won't happen with Huggle, as Huggle only creates a report in the exact moment a recent bad edit is undone. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:36, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
    Nods. Huggle is a loverly tool.
    I always try to explain; otherwise they never realize what happened - very few editors who would hastily report a "vandal" that hasn't edited in days would check AIV or the "vandal's" page to see if they'd been blocked, so the reporting editor wouldn't even realize there was an issue. How can they learn to slow down and check the date if no one tells them? So I try. :-) KillerChihuahua 20:40, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
    Adding: and thank you, because the only way you'd have known I did explain is that you went to explain also! So yay us, trying to help people learn to correctly identify vandalism! KillerChihuahua 20:41, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
      ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:00, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Erm...does this prevent Huggle users from reporting IP's, or simply change when Huggle does it automatically? The former could be problematic. Vermont (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey Vermont, this does not have any effect on manual reports; it solely makes Huggle ignore templates that are older than 3 days (rather than the "30 days" we had for a while) when deciding which warning level a user currently has. The original value on enwiki was 3 days, but this has accidentally changed during an update (from WP:Huggle/Config to WP:Huggle/Config.yaml). The result have been some very weird automatic reports that took a while to debug. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I’m surprised it was 30, thanks for changing it. Vermont (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

History of Ecology

I added some material about EG Hutchinson that I want to use for a later new section I have worked out. You deleted it almost as fast as I put it up. I did not add a citation because I thought it would be redundant with the new section, to be called Transition to Modern Ecology from Ecology as a Point of View and following Conservation and Ecology. Please be a dear and undo your cut. Also can you tell me how to link names in articles to the articles that you have for such people. MacArthur, for example. I find your help pages confusing. Thank you.WDrit2 (talk) 22:15, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi WDrit2, thank you very much for writing the new text. To restore your edit, only a few steps are needed. Please read the whole list before clicking the first link.
  • Click here to open the editor, with your content restored and ready to be saved again. If asked, "Switch to the visual editor". You can also do so by clicking the pencil icon at the top right of the editor.
  • To add a link: Mark the name you'd like to link, for example with your mouse or Shift+Arrowkey on a keyboard, then click the chain icon at the top of the editor (between "A" and "Cite").
  • To add a citation: Move the cursor to the end of your addition, then click "Cite".
Please do include a citation; if something is redundant, it can be removed later. Verifiability is important; let's rather include too many than too few good references.
If one of these steps does not work, feel free to ask again; I'll need to know what exactly you have already tried to be able to provide more specific technical advice.
Thank you very much in advance! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:28, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


My biggest problem right now, I thing, is not with editing, but with using this particular form of communication.WDrit2 (talk) 16:11, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Hey WDrit2, that's normal; it takes some time to get accustomed to. You're doing pretty well, though. Thank you very much for adding a citation! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Answer here.

Hello. I saw your asking “have you been editing Wikipedia under another username before?” and my answer is no. I simply put my opinion on nomination of deletion and suddenly administrators accused me of sockpuppetry and article got deleted. Which can not understand they did this because I made my account only few days ago. Thanks for asking me. I’m new at here so wonder what I did wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joanaones (talkcontribs) 15:41, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Joanaones, if you're actually new to Wikipedia, you did nothing wrong and can probably ignore accusations of sockpuppetry. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:38, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I feel sorry for my action brought article negative effect. I wroted there with comments simply because guideline instructed if you are new your vote can be ignored but you are always welcome to comment to prove with right articles as many as you can. I looked over every article to prove because when I looked over the situation it didnt seems like saying the right thing(like this is more important than that) wont be counted because there are not many users on wikipedia understand this sport unlike films or actors. All of a sudden one of user accused me after my comments about I only wrote about nomination(which is quite not true) and almost right after another administrator closed the article on the name of sockpuppetry. Is this right actions? I’m sorry I’m so new here all I could do was look over the guideline. Joanaones (talk) 20:26, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Joanaones, if you never have edited Wikipedia before, just ignore the sockpuppetry accusations and move on.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:31, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


thanks trying to learn http or what its called where you build websites and the sandbox will be helpful — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

you are a good person helping wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you're welcome, thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)


Thanks for letting me know about disclosing about Boxstat. Wikipedia confuses me if I'm completely honest. Am I allowed to replace dead links with Boxstat ones at all? I only ever replace them with relevant links to match up with the text. I do try and replace all dead links when I can with all sources. If this isn't allowed at all or considered spam I will obviously stop, I was just under the impression that by replacing dead links with a relevant link then its an improvement regardless if it was to my site or not. Also I don't ever add links to pages randomly, only ever dead link replacement. Thanks and again apologies if this is spam and I've misunderstood. Also I've just seen the Sock Puppetry thing. Boxstat ones is mine because I had forgot that I had a personal account the others can be deleted. I have explained myself to someone before and asked for advice but never seems easy to actually speak to people. (User talk:Stump1990) —Preceding undated comment added 23:01, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Stump1990, the "Boxstat" account is blocked; you'll probably need to appeal that block. The confession above, combined with a genuine misunderstanding, may help you in this situation. Please take a moment to clearly state, at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Stump1990, in the "Comments by other users" section, the situation from your point of view. If you describe concisely which accounts you have used and where the misunderstanding is, this may perhaps end amicably and perhaps even without a re-block. You need to make clear that you understand why you had been blocked, and that a block is no longer necessary. I'm not the person to make the final decision, but I think that a requirement will be permanently refraining from adding links to any websites you are affiliated with. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:12, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank You. Yes it's all been a bit confusing. I don't use and had no intention of using any of the Boxstat accounts after I realised I had a personal account. I'm not going to bother contesting any more its more hassle than its worth, I genuinely thought I was adding value and was always careful when editing dead links. Obviously I was wrong. Thanks for replying to me and explaining. I won't bother contributing any more to save any more hassle for anyone and myself. Thanks again and sorry again for the confusion. (User talk:Stump1990) —Preceding undated comment added 23:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Stump1990, you're welcome, but I'm not entirely sure:
  • If all you ever want to do on Wikipedia is adding links to your website, the decision to stop doing so will not be a voluntary one;
  • if you would like to contribute constructively, you'll need to appeal the block.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

No Connection


I am not being compensanted or related to this project in anyway. I write finance and data articles, and thought this was an interesting area that should be given a wikipedia page. So, I figured I might attempt my wikipedia page writing about this emerging area. I am in no way connected to any companies or anything of the like and I am looking for tips to ensure this is more than just a neologism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brettq888 (talkcontribs) 07:59, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Brettq888, thank you very much for the clarification. I have added a link to this section below my "conflict of interest" message on your talk page, which you may freely remove completely, just like all messages you'd like to remove.
Please also see Wikipedia:Teahouse#Fraud_Orchestration--_Help_Improving for further information regarding the draft. Please note that, if a topic is not notable according to Wikipedia's notability standards, even a perfectly-written article could not overcome the notability problem and no article about it would ever be accepted. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Template editor

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Thanks for Fortification of Frankfurt its really great!

I just did some copyediting there and couldn't help but notice how great of an article you wrote! here's a barnstar.

  The Rosetta Barnstar
message Kaiser Kitkat (talk) 21:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
message Kaiser Kitkat (talk) 21:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey Kaiser Kitkat, thank you very much for the extensive copyediting and the barnstars!  
It's probably clear, but I should point out that I didn't write the original German article. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:42, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome! -kaiserkitkat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaiser Kitkat (talkcontribs) 23:46, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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Contributing more Female Founders to Wikipedia

Hi ToBeFree, I'm fairly new to Wikipedia so my apologies as I am still learning how to use the talk section. I read an article about gaps wikipedia has in relation to women and I decided to try and contribute more information about female-founded companies and female startup founders.[1] I do know some of the women I am trying to add, what is the proper way to cite that? Also, to push this forward and get more notable women should I be simply requesting for others to create the pages with their work or request for someone else to be profiling them instead of contributing that information myself? Pumpkin candle (talk) 01:36, 19 October 2019 (UTC)


  1. ^ {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
Hi Pumpkin candle, thanks for asking. If you have a personal connection to a person, please do not edit Wikipedia about them. Please also disclose your connection, if any, to "CareMessage", on your user page. You can do so by clicking here and explaining your connection to the topic of Draft:CareMessage.
I may have more advice to offer, but only if such connections have been properly disclosed. Feel free to inform me when this has happened. General advice can be found at Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and Wikipedia:FAQ/Article subjects, for organizations and people, respectively. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Message by Greenkingwashere

In regards to my article, you said that is doesnt not have enough sources. I have some articles and other sources written about the artist, do you think including a style section or something similar with links to those sources is what you need to wrap it up? I was planning on adding articles about some of the albums as well, but I can include some of the content on the artist page as well. Greenkingwashere (talk) 22:39, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Greenkingwashere, my main concern is only whether such sources exist at all. They do not have to be used in the article, but the article should at very least contain a link to them. Perhaps a "Further Reading" section can already prove notability.
If you like to, I'll have a look at the three best sources you can find, according to the general notability criteria that are described in (over)simplified form at WP:42. If you are interested in such an analysis, feel free to add up to three links to the bottom of this talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:49, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

I found an article about them I just added to the draft, and I dug up an interview that should provide more info. I'll add them to the draft then submit again. Greenkingwashere (talk) 23:08, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Greenkingwashere, interviews are often not independent coverage. That said, of course, do feel free to re-submit the article and someone else will provide a second opinion. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:10, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

im sorry

hello mr free, i apologize for my previous remarks and am especially sorry for any damage i have caused. sincerely, me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18A:104:BD40:CD5D:A128:6FA6:7E05 (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Hey 2601:18A:104:BD40:CD5D:A128:6FA6:7E05, do I correctly understand that this is about Special:Contributions/2601:18a:104:bd40:58c5:a474:57a3:8123? If it relieves you, I didn't even see these messages. They have been removed from the page's history. That said, the headings and multiple users' reactions to the content do allow me to guess what might have been written there. I'm not offended; I only find it weird that anyone would write such messages. I am positively surprised by your apology and accept it. Your block seems to have expired as well. If you are interested in contributing to Wikipedia productively, you may like to have a look at our community portal, or – after registering an account – the Wikipedia Adventure. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:22, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


Thanks ToBeFree. I've marked it for deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83Gulf (talkcontribs) 21:52, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi 83Gulf, you're welcome – I'm always a bit sad to see that happen, but I think it's a reasonable decision.
On a lighter note, thank you for contributing to Wikipedia: I see that you have already edited many other articles, and that your first edit anniversary will be on Thursday this week.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:11, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Your work is appreciated! S0091 (talk) 19:36, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey S0091, thank you very much!  
We seem to meet each other often. I appreciate your work as well! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:09, 26 October 2019 (UTC)


I have declined your revdel request on Tupperware because (listed in the linked earwig report) is a backwards copy, no cited refs appear to be copyright problems. If there is a problem here, please be much clearer on exactly what is copied and from where. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 23:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi DESiegel, thank you very much for the notification. I am referring to the first reference added in Special:Diff/922992423, which appears to be a violation of the WP:LINKVIO section of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Sorry for having been too unspecific about this; it is a bit tricky to describe a link violation without linking to the infringement oneself. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:22, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!   Done I am not sure that linkvio in the history alone needs revdel, but the revision in this case had nothing of significant value anyway, and the YouTube vid was clearly a copyvio. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 01:27, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, DESiegel.   I completely agree with this assessment. Perhaps there should be a RfC about the applicability of link violations for RD1; the sentence "However, if you know or reasonably suspect that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work."[1] seems to contain a condition that, uh, could possibly be argued not to apply to clueless violations by new editors. This would be a weird condition if it really had to be taken into account when deciding whether to revision-delete links to clear copyright violations. And do administrators perhaps knowingly contribute to the "linking" if they actively deny such a request? I'm not a lawyer; perhaps I'm talking nonsense.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the warm welcome and the cookies too! :)

The notable person I mentioned has given me permission to do his page.

My question was: What is the procedure? I already have the content and the photo for uploading on the page. However, I'm still lost on how to upload the information on his page.

Please assist me.

--Skanake (talk) 13:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Skanake, you're welcome. :)
About the article: As you have a connection to the person, and thus a conflict of interest, I personally recommend not creating an article about them. The advice in WP:Autobiography mostly applies to your situation, even if you do not directly write about yourself. Photos often come with copyright problems; you can generally only upload what you have personally photographed with your own hands. As there are so many pitfalls to consider here, I strongly recommend gaining more experience with editing, for example using the community portal or the Wikipedia Adventure, before even thinking about article creation.
Please forward the following advice page to the person you hopefully do not yet create an article about: WP:FAQ/Article subjects.
Thank you very much in advance and sorry for the probably disappointing answer. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 13:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I get it, thanks. I'll work on a different subject.

Thanks for the advice. I'll work on a few more edits and see how it goes.

Regards, --Skanake (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Skanake, thank you very much for the consideration. I wish you good luck, enjoy editing, and do feel free to ask here or at the Teahouse whenever questions arise.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:04, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

edits on Harry Dodge page

Hi ToBeFree,

I noticed the edits I made on Harry Dodge were deleted and I am a bit confused. You left me a message saying there may be a conflict of interest? I made a draft of the page... Maybe you can review it as you suggested? Let me know what I can do and thank you for the tips! Here is the link to the draft:

talk soon Kekatcan (talk) 19:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Kekatcan, nice to meet you. Do you have any connection to Harry Dodge? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:42, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
No I don't have any connection to Harry Dodge.. I'm interested in his work and saw that his wiki page is not updated Kekatcan (talk) 20:05, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Kekatcan, please explain the existence of the following document:
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:21, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


Hello. The source is me. Thank you for not interfering unless you really know something about the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:05, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thank you very much for the clarification.

Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.
— Wikipedia:Verifiability

Or, as Jimmy Wales once wrote,

If it is true, it should be easy to supply a reference.

You may like to use the "Cite" button of the visual editor to easily provide an inline citation. Thank you very much in advance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:16, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Al Nahda National Schools

Hello! As a student of this school, I was wondering (after seeing your contributions to its wikipedia page) what relationship you bear to it? I've not met any German students here- nor are there any teachers from there either. How did you come across my school's page, and why the interest in it?

This might come off as rude, but trust me that this is not the case AT ALL- I am simply curious.

- Emma — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8F8:1125:8EF2:A104:8304:120C:75FF (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Emma, no worries. Nice to meet you.
It may be surprising, but many Wikipedia editors do not have a close connection to the topics they write about. We try to avoid editing articles if we have a conflict of interest; experienced editors usually do not edit articles about their employer, their friends or their family. The volunteer community is especially critical of paid editing, which is tolerated only within strict limits.
Some Wikipedia editors regularly have a look at Special:RecentChanges, a chronological list of recent edits to all Wikipedia articles. The English Wikipedia has about 120 edits per minute; this is more than a human can reasonably monitor. I personally use tools that filter out potentially problematic edits, using artificial neural networks and a huge database of edits known to be "good" or "bad". New edits are compared against the database entries, and a list of "probably bad" edits appears 🡆here🡄.
This is how I found the text that I have removed in Special:Diff/884043392, for example. I have no connection to the school; I just stumbled upon the page in the list of recent changes.
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for your contributions! I wasn't aware of these things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InbetweenCupsOfTea (talkcontribs) 15:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

I'm incredibly grateful for the links you have provided me (and the cookies..). As you may have noticed, I have a very rudimentary understanding of editing on Wikipedia- removing vandalism and fixing grammatical mistakes is all I can manage at the moment. I've been wanting to delve further into this for a while now- looks like now's the time!

Thanks again,

InbetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 16:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome, InbetweenCupsOfTea. I'm happy to hear that.  
You may like using the following three links as stepping stones:
Have fun editing and feel free to ask if any questions arise.
~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

(Slightly early) congratulations!

Hi - I'm about to log off to make dinner, so will probably miss your RfA's formal closure - but as the outgoing 'newest admin', I wanted to be the first to congratulate the incoming one - welcome to the corps! Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 18:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

  Thank you very much, Girth Summit. This is a nice idea, I'll pass it on to the next successful candidate. Bon appétit! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
ToBeFree, (editing on phone while stirring some slowly-frying onions) cool - will this be the start of a time-honored traditional? GirthSummit (blether) 19:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Haha, that would be awesome. I thought you had inherited it. If it's your idea, congratulations: This will become a thing. That is, unless someone breaks the chain. We may have to intrudoce a requirement for the previous candidate to remind them if needed.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
The bigger issue is sneaking past all of these unobliging souls wanting to wish successful candidates congratulations, which personally I just view as inconsiderate! ;) Nosebagbear (talk) 21:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
ToBeFree, no I didn't inherit it, so I guess it's our thing! I'm now imagining a template with an imageof some sort of 'torch of newbia', with a link to The Chain! GirthSummit (blether) 21:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
+1! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:32, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

A beer for you!

  Congratulations! Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 18:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
It's nice to meet you again, Javert2113. Thank you very much for your support, the congratulations and the beer.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Your RFA

As implied by those above, your RFA was successful. Congratulations! Primefac (talk) 18:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Primefac! Suddenly, before I saw the closure, many new buttons and links appeared on my screen.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Congrats TBF. I'll let someone else dig out the t-shirt, but I did want to say it's good to have you on board. Feel free to abuse me with any questions or anything you may have. — Ched (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Will do.   Thank you very much for the offer and the support. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:47, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations and welcome to the ranks of WP:SWAT!   Still working on the uniforms so for now, feel free to use this t-shirt   Regards SoWhy 18:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hey SoWhy. I can't thank you enough for your wonderful nomination. 🌈 Thank you for making this possible. While it should perhaps ideally have no effect, I think a self-nomination would at very least have been more exhausting. Your volunteer time made my volunteering possible; I'll make sure to offset that over time.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:57, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations TBF. I look forward to seeing you around. AmericanAir88(talk) 18:48, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the congratulations and the support, AmericanAir88. The same to you.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Congrats! You might find Wikipedia:Administrators' guide helpful, but either way, time to get to work! ~ Amory (utc) 19:16, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

You have got mail   Thank you very much, Amory, also for the wonderful co-nomination. I will do my best to meet the high expectations that may come with the stunning RfA result.
It was a pleasure to plan and run this candidature with you two. Thank you for your time and work, and for a wonderful week. 🌈 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

On behalf of good Wikipedians everywhere, I present you with your level 1 mop. May it serve you long and well. Your gilded and diamond encrusted level 60 mop is on back order :) Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 19:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Take the sacred mop and with it rinse the Wiki of its scum and villany!
😂 Didn't know that image yet. It's a pretty mop, you can keep the one with diamonds.   Thank you very much. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Congrats! A cabal representative will be along shortly to provide you with the secret handshake and a progress report on the world domination plan Look forward to seeing you around, have fun with the mop and reading! :) Nosebagbear (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

There's a typo on page 3 and the paper has no edit button. Who wrote this? Thank you very much, Nosebagbear.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Are you sure you weren't playing around like Fuhghettaboutit? Nosebagbear (talk)

Felicitations and welcome to the team. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ad Orientem, thank you very much, for the support too.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:59, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations and good luck; glad to have had a chance to support your RFA. Donner60 (talk) 04:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Glad to have your support, Donner60. Thank you very much! 🙂 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:23, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay So Developments

Okay because I was doing this for school, I contacted the company to see if they could point me to information that would help with making sure this article was beyond a "neologism". Obviously, now I guess you could say I may have a conflict of interest to disclose because in getting them to show me some of their data they are now vested in me getting this published. So How should I go about this.

These are articles they sent me and they have a medium article so I do not know if that counts toward what you are looking for? Again this was more an experience to me wanting to learn to make a wikipedia page from a topic I learned about in law school, specializing in an emerging legal area as well. Sorry that was a lot, I just want to make sure I am properly handling this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brettq888 (talkcontribs) 23:08, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Brettq888,
this is probably less problematic than most conflicts of interest, but I would recommend explaining the connection on your user page anyway. This allows others to quickly get an overview of the situation. You may like to copy the nice explanation from your first paragraph above.
Regarding the links: Interviews with company representatives and press releases by the company are not independent coverage. The blog at seems to be intended for commercial promotion, not independent journalism.
I personally would recommend not investing volunteer or school time into the promotion of a neologism on Wikipedia. Your work likely makes the company representatives or teachers happy, and they may encourage you to do so, but the efforts appear to be misdirected.
Please have a look at our wonderful task center and perhaps the Wikipedia Adventure for more productive ideas.
If you disagree with this assessment, feel free to improve your draft at Draft:Fraud Orchestration at any time, and feel free to "Resubmit" it for review. An independent other reviewer will then have a look and provide a second opinion. However, please note that no amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. If something is not notable, no article about it can exist on Wikipedia, no matter how well-written it is.
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello! Help with the Bonetti Kozerski page?

Hello! We have added new citations with a neutral tone in October to our page for submission. Just wanted to be sure you had them? Thankyou in advance! Sillaro Valley (talk) 17:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sillaro Valley, "we" is only you, I hope. :)
The draft has been correctly submitted for review. It may take about 8 weeks, and you will be notified at User talk:Sillaro Valley.
Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

  Congratulations on becoming an Administrator! Best wishes, Harshil want to talk? 03:32, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
This is very kind, thank you, Harshil169.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

+1 Daniel Case (talk) 16:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

And thank you too, Daniel Case, also for your kind support.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!


Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 11:43, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Cute   Thanks! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Contributions by Psimonson

 – ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:33, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Rudy Rotter

I probably selected the wrong mouse option, the one for an existing draft when I was trying to get the one for an existing article. Oops.

Is there any reason why the draft shouldn't just be redirected to the article? The paid editor still should be told not to edit the article directly. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:30, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Robert McClenon, no worries – I think I did tell the editor about this now, but feel free to provide additional advice. The previous advice by two users seems to have been suggesting editing the article directly, even "boldly" so, so I collapsed it. If I understand the situation correctly, the conflict of interest is unrelated to payment.
About redirecting: Doing so using an actual redirect would prevent the editor from easily requesting the changes to be incorporated into the article. If I see the situation correctly, no further change is currently needed, but do feel free to implement any changes that you consider to be additional improvements. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Normally when there is a draft and an article, it is simplest to redirect the draft to the article. In this case, I will leave it alone. I don't want to give you an opportunity to test the new Delete button. Unless you want me to create something and then U1 it so that you can test the new Delete button. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind offer. Leaving the U1 joke aside, I wonder, though... Which deletion criterion would I use? I'm not sure if I understand the suggestion correctly and/or how serious it is. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:54, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Only half joking. I meant that I could create a test file in user space and then tag it for U1 so that you could see if you can delete it. Actually, in that case, it could be both U1 and G2, because it would be a user request to delete test data. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:09, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Woopps. G2 doesn't apply in user space. Okay. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification. I misinterpreted the message as consisting of two parts, an actual deletion suggestion related to the draft and the U1 joke. I've had the unfortunate opportunity of testing both revision deletion and deletion for less amusing cases already, but I wouldn't say no to a humorful U1/G7. To be extra nitpicky, G2 seems to be excluded.   Edit conflict: yup. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:15, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Would you like to test your ability to look for G4 nominations? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
😬 A delicate subject, Robert McClenon, considering that one of the few oppose reasons for the RfA was a clear lack of AfD experience. I think that's one of the few speedy deletion criteria I should not yet touch with a ten-foot pole.   ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Then someone will look at it. Fair enough. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:07, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Conflict of interest comment

Hello. On my draft article, you said there could be a conflict of interest:

Why is this? I don't know the subject, not related, work with him, no mutual friends etc. I simply watch him on BBC One's The Apprentice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPA24 (talkcontribs) 17:26, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi JPA24, which source does the birth date come from? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

I have realised, upon gaining feedback from an editor, to refrain from original research. The BBC announced he is aged 19 and have seen on his social media celebrating his birthday. I have no relationship to the subject or know of his friends/family. I'm merely a viewer of The Apprentice UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPA24‎ (talkcontribs) 20:36, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the explanation, JPA24. If I understand your original question correctly, you wondered why I considered a conflict of interest to be possible here. I still do, and I hope that my questions explain my suspicion.
For example, I wonder about the timing of commons:Special:Diff/375143555 and Special:Diff/925915496, about the similarity of the usernames, about the abbreviation "RMP", and about the edit summary "Permission granted to use photograph." By whom?
Can you see why the claim of "I don't know the subject" looks strange to me? ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

I really think you're looking into this too much. I was using both accounts to edit the article and upload the media. This being my first ever article that I'm attempting to write on Wikipedia, I thought I could tribute one of my usernames to my first subject. That was literally my thought process whilst creating that username - which I'm sure you can agree is understandable. Regarding the permission being granted, the image is in the public domain and there is no copyright. The wording I used was a misapprehension and I can retract that from the media to reflect the process in which was carried out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPA24 (talkcontribs) 01:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)