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MergeEdit

Hello, i will be permanently merging to Wikidata ASAP, and will no longer be active on the enwiki, i am sorry that i have come to thius decision, but i do kind of prefer how wikidata works, sorry again~JJBullet~ {Talk} 14:20, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks, and do take care. One step at a time, eh? Nick Moyes (talk) 21:54, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Nick Moyes, yep thanks nick, ill still keep in contact ~JJBullet~ {Talk} 19:52, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Nick Moyes, hows it going? ~JJBullet~ {Talk} 09:18, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

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Appreciation and RequestEdit

Hello Nick. Just wanted to thank you for your kindness and assistance as I've been learning the ropes. Also, I've had some harsh comments about the article I'm working on and wanted to check in with you about it as you are the only person who has seemed reasonable and responsive on here.

I realize that you don't focus on the same area as this article, nor are you available to adopt anyone. I just need some direction because I've researched the subject thoroughly and have listed all points of view that are available on her regardless of whether it is flattering or not. I was looking at other romance authors on wikipedia as my guide for how to write it and thought that the voice was the same.

It is still a work in progress as I'm trying to find a primary source for the charity work as I know that the authors website stating the information isn't that.

Kristen Ashley & Bibliography

I've been a little discouraged about the whole thing!

Thanks for any pointers you can provide.

--Azurerae (talk) 20:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@Azurerae: I will try to take a look for you. However, I may not be able to do that for a while as I already owe a couple of other editors detailed and lengthy replies to their requests for support, and I'm feeling guilty I haven't dealt with those yet. My fellow Hosts at the Teahouse are used to providing supportive replies to new editors. (That said, I've taken a quick peek: Please don't ever be discouraged - creating a new article is actually the hardest thing anyone can do here. The fact that you want to contribute is, itself, fantastic. I don't think Ashley's charity work impacts on their Notability at all - so my advice is always to leave out stuff that you cannot find sources too. Sometimes "less is more". I'm not sure that having one's books listed on Times best sellers lists confers notabilty to the author per se. Sometimes WP:TOOSOON is linked to to help editors appreciate that maybe waiting a while longer for better sources to be published about a person is actually a good idea. Take a look at WP:NBIO and WP:NAUTHOR for help in understanding how a person may or may not meet our notabilty guidelines. Sorry I can't spend longer in providing a detailed reply. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:48, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: Thanks again Nick. I updated the page again removing the charity section and adding a source to the writing section. Also added some text trying to explain why she’s different from just being another romance author, trying to follow the neutral point of view guideline. But, she is different not only in her writing style but in how she became a self publishing titan of kindle after years of rejection.Azurerae (talk) 18:08, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello!Edit

Hi nick, i'm getting on very well at wiki-data, been proving my abilities & got the IPBE privilege and getting on well with it in general~JJBullet~ {Talk} 12:19, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi there JJBullet. I'm glad you think you're getting on well. That's great. To be brutally honest, I still can't see that you've actually contributed anything there yet, either, other than fiddle around at the edges, seeking permissions and playing with scripts. But just take care, and try to be constructive when you can. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-28Edit

20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

ZaporizhzhiaEdit

We would like to ask to correct the transliteration of the city name.

Argumentation: In accordance with the decision of the executive committee of the Zaporizhzhya City Council, dated August 28, 2017, No.476, the transliteration of the spelling of the geographical name of the city of Zaporizhzhia on maps and other publications in Latin was approved as - "Zaporizhzhia" [6], in accordance with the Resolution of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine dated January 27, 2010 N 55 "On the ordering of transliteration of the Ukrainian alphabet in Latin "(which is valid).

Unfortunately, my editing has been rejected. At this time, mistakes occur oftenly while using the Latin name of the city. I consider it would be appropriate to prescribe the correct name of the city in English in the article.

Thank you for your time Власова Альона (talk) 13:50, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

The correct place to make this point is on the article talk page, but I see you have now done that. (I will copy my comment to that page). Please read WP:COMMONNAME to understand that English Wikipedia chooses its article titles and spellings by how that subject is most frequently written in English. Thus French Wikipedia will have an article about London, but it will be written as Londres, because that is how the French refer to the English city where I was born. Whilst Zaporizhzhia may have changed its own spelling in its own tongue, that may not be reflected on Wikipedia by an immediate change of spelling. We would have to wait until the majority of Reliable Sources start to refer to it in that way. That said, it's quite OK to mention the formalisation of regional spelling in the article itself...just please don't keep trying to change the spelling throughout the article until such time as there is a consensus (agreement) to do so. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

ClarificationEdit

Sorry for the mess!, I now understand that English Wiki waits until the day the thing happens. It's like President Macri of here Argentina will jointly declare Hezbollah with Mike Pompeo, US Sec of State, a terrorist organization. But I have to wait until then right? Thank you and bless. --CoryGlee (talk) 01:16, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

@CoryGlee: Well, if a reliable newspaper or website says a major event is scheduled, we can describe those reports that say it likely to happen. But we cannot speculate what the outcome will be. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

TeahouseEdit

Hi wanna join teahouse after my best expresso told me about it Elizabethfoundationn (talk) 21:10, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

@Elizabethfoundationn: It's not a case of 'joining' anything. Just pop over to The Teahouse where our 'hosts' are happy to answer your questions on how best to edit Wikipedia. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:26, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-29Edit

15:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #1—July 2019Edit

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GR 400Edit

Thanks for reviewing this page, and for the web reference. I will be adding stats and other details over the next few days. seglea (talk) 11:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-30Edit

13:07, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

French to English TranslationEdit

@Nick Moyes Sorry, if I did not respond in a correct manner. I am still familiarizing myself with the editing process for Wikipedia. I actually personally know this French artist. He has independent articles and websites posted about him outside of Wikipedia. He is listed on the website of a Miami art museum also for his exposition. I guess for the lack of better wording, my friend was helping to translate his wiki page to Russian and German but didn't have the option for English. I don't need a translation machine to translate the page from French to English. I speak French myself and can give an accurate translation of the French wiki page to English. Would it be possible I could make that contribution after 4 days? I appreciate the help. PoojaCucumber (talk) 00:54, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Just a courtesy note to say that because you've duplicated your question here, I decided it is best if I answered it at the Teahouse, as it follows on from my previous reply to you there. Hope that's OK. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:19, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

August 2019 at Women in RedEdit

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Record for unpublished draft?Edit

You said here you had been working on one for 18 months. Mine is at 9 years. Even when I started, I didn't know certain sources were unacceptable, and now even some of those are gone. I'm pretty sure this man is notable but I can't find the proof or the right kind of sources.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:08, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-31Edit

21:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous

  • Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
  • The new page reviewer right is bundled with the admin tool set. Many admins regularly help out at Special:NewPagesFeed, but they may not be aware of improvements, changes, and new tools for the Curation system. Stay up to date by subscribing here to the NPP newsletter that appears every two months, and/or putting the reviewers' talk page on your watchlist.

    Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Old housesEdit

This is your part of the world, it appears. What do you know of sources covering old houses? Uncle G (talk) 08:42, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

  • Many thanks. Yes, it's just down the road from me, though I wasn't aware of the building myself (I'm/was a museum naturalist not a social historian).But it's clearly notable as one of England's very important Grade II* listed building. I've given a fuller justification at MfD for moving straight to mainspace. Thank you both for your work on this and for notifying me. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:15, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
    • I saw the Derbyshire and the museum, and thought that you are least in the right part of the planet and close enough to know where to look for sources. I used to give this stuff to Senra (talk · contribs), but xe is quiet at the moment. I do not know where to send the likes of The Lexington, Islington (AfD discussion) and Penrhiw Priory (AfD discussion), both of which were/are full of recentist commercial information about a pub and a hotel, including a list of the past month or so's stage acts, and make little or no mention of (respectively) a vicarage that has World War 2 history and a street address that has been a tea gardens, two pubs, a restaurant, and others during its 2½ century history. Uncle G (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you to share with those cookies!Edit

  Thank you Nick for taking the time to give a kind reply and links to read up on; very helpful indeed! And in reading the info on YOU, I see that you have been, and will continue to be, one busy fellow! My word, you're busy! I've raised 6 children and am now in "damage control" with what life I have left! Carry on and thank you!
SilvrFox2u (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, SilvrFox2u, that's very kind of you. If you have the time and motivation, contributing to Wikipedia can be a really satisfying way of spending some of that free time, especially as it's our children - and theirs - that are really going to benefit from those improvements. If you ever need any help or encouragement, just pop by the Teahouse, or leave a note here. You might perhaps like to think about creating your own userpage and saying a few words about your interests/experience that are be relevant to editing this encyclopaedia? All the very best, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:56, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

AdminshipEdit

Nick, have you ever considered running for adminship? In looking over your contributions, it seems to me that you are eminently qualified, and would also find the tools helpful with respect to helping newbies and dispute resolution. I, and several others, I'm sure, would be happy to nominate you. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Vanamonde93 - thank you very much for contacting me. It's really appreciated. The honest answer is 'yes', it's rarely very far from my thoughts when I'm here. I've been considering/working towards running for the last 18 months or so. I have been approached off-wiki a couple of times by Ritchie333 with an offer of a joint nomination, and did my ORFA back in April 2018. But since then I've been very committed IRL to a building renovation project away from home. So I haven't been able to dedicate as much quality time to Wikipedia as I would have liked, nor indeed can I commit to being available for a week's RFA right now. (My other excuse is that I hate doing a bad job if I'm not fully prepared; I'd rather put it off. So, whilst I feel 'moderately' confident of getting through an RfA, I'm less confident of subsequently being the good admin that I would want to be, and that our community deserves. So, right now I'm still watching and learning and trying to address some of my weak spots whenever I get an opportunity. But there are so many of them!!! Maybe later in the year (which I think I said last year, too.)) Nick Moyes (talk) 22:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
PS: Another worthy editor whose contributions you might like to consider looking at is User:Marchjuly. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:36, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Real life is always a priority; but with respect to "being the good admin", it is my belief that even a handful of admin actions every month are a definite net positive. I will take your response as a "yes but later", so expect to hear from me again! I confess I don't know much of Marchjuly; I will take a look. Cheers, Vanamonde (Talk) 23:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
+1, no better time than now. Run for it dude. Lourdes 02:52, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Agreed, and my/our offer still stands! Until then, I'll reset my reminder for October 1. ~ Amory (utc) 21:15, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Self TroutEdit

 
I deserve this for this
With apologies to Crossroads1

AdminshipEdit

@Interstellarity: Whilst I thank you muchly for you confidence in me and your keenness to nominate me for adminship, had you read the post right above this one you would have seen that, not only have I been encouraged to stand by four (well three now) current administrators who are willing to support me, but also that I had clearly indicated I am not in a position to run for an RfA right now as I have very little free time at present. Whilst I may well do so in the next six months, I think it might also have been less awkward had you acted on the advice at WP:RFA/NOMELSE and asked me first before creating the RfA page for me, which I have now had to decline.
I suspect the best protocol is to simply ask you to CSD G7, but am pinging @Amorymeltzer and Vanamonde93: for their thoughts. Best wishes, and thanks again for your very slightly misplaced support. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:52, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
I saw this and was quite surprised, but thought I'd wait for you to respond yourself before doing anything about it. Yes, a G7 tag would be best; an RFA page created without the candidate's consent isn't particularly useful. Vanamonde (Talk) 17:15, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
OK - thanks for that. @Interstellarity: could I ask you to sort the CSD G7 please? Nick Moyes (talk) 17:22, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I have tagged the page for speedy deletion. I am very sorry for nominating you early. Whenever you feel you are ready for adminship, please let me know and I'll be willing to nominate you again. Also, I noticed you left a message for me on my talk page. As I have stated in my notice above, I prefer to keep discussions in one place so So if you leave a message on this page, I will reply on this page unless you direct me to a discussion elsewhere. To reply to a message I left on your talk page, then please post the reply on your talk page, and use {{ping}} to notify me. I hope this helps at least a little and I wish you well whether or not you want to become an administrator. Regards, Interstellarity (talk) 17:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Interstellarity: No worries and thanks. Regarding your talk page advice to me: you are aware, aren't you, that your templated nomination invitation, above, contained a request to respond to it on your talk page, and that I did indeed reply to you here, as well as notifying you out of courtesy directly on your own page, per that template? I was a little surprised you felt you needed to tell me that. Anyway, not to worry. Best, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:47, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
What a shame. I was hoping to see you in action in your RfA. Masum Reza📞 17:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
@Masumrezarock100: Ha! Later, my friend, later. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:47, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-34Edit

15:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

erm.....this started with a question about category sections in draftsEdit

First, thanks for the advice about the category section. I've tried to follow it.

Second, you were in the CIA? You did some sort of chemical analysis and that's how you knew to include in your example a reference to New Zealand?

Could you explain that one, please? I'd like to know how vulnerable our identities are to exposure. Otherwise, it's a bit creepy.

Tarkiwi25 (talk) 08:46, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@Tarkiwi25: Glad to have been of help. You'd be surprised what just a little subtle investigation can reveal about others. I can't say more about my tradecraft, or I'd have to kill you. LOL. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:00, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

UpdateEdit

Just leting you know I'm still around. My computer charger broke so when I'm on Wikipedia lately it's been on mobile. I prefer to do more substantial edits on desktop, but that doesn't stop me from doing small edits for things like punctuation. I've also been enjoying my summer vacation, hanging out with friends, back to school shopping and focusing more on hobbies of mine. Clovermoss (talk) 04:07, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey - great to hear from you. I'm pleased to hear you've made the most of your summer vacation. It's exam results day here in the UK today, so many people will be thinking of their futures and the paths they take on returning to college. I guess you will be, too? I'm sorry to hear of your charger problem - maybe worth checking on eBay to see if you can get a 2nd hand replacement, but be aware there are so many different sizes of connections even within one manufacturer that you need to ensure the right one. Like you, I've had laptop problem - it's keyboard has suddenly started missing certain letters, so I'm also doing most of my editing on a mobile. This means the more complex issues have to be kept in abeyance. Whilst I generally recommend using 'desktop view', did you know that 'mobile view' now has an additional settings facility, given you more editing functions than were previously available. You might like to check them out. Best wishes for now, Nick Moyes (talk) 07:04, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm still switching between the two modes. I do like the new mobile design, though. I'm not sure we quite have an exam day here in Canada in that sense, but I got my report card earlier. I'm also not quite college age yet, but that's stuff I'll be thinking about later this year as I'm going into grade 12. Clovermoss (talk) 13:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

TildesEdit

For no reason in particular I found myself looking to see if anyone else had used {{tildes}} and I was really delighted that someone (you) had. Thank you   It was a trivial bit of work just to make things a little easier for myself and I didn't expect anyone to notice. I'm very glad that someone did. › Mortee talk 23:25, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@Mortee: I can't remember how I found it, but those little tweaks can be very useful. I've no idea if anyone else uses this shortcut I created (WP:THF) but I rarely use anything else. Nick Moyes (talk) 03:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

September 2019 at Women in RedEdit

September 2019, Volume 5, Issue 9, Numbers 107, 108, 132, 133, 134, 135


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You've got mail (Sep 2019)Edit

 
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@Richard Nevell (WMUK): I got the email telling me I've got mail from you, but I can't find your actual message in my Inbox. So, could you either try again, or DM me via Twitter, please? (I have just discovered my webmail company appears to have deleted virtually every one of my past messages - and yours is probably amongst them.) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:56, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
It might have ended up in spam! I just re-sent the message so hopefully that's got through. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

This coolnessEdit

  Helpfulness
Thanks for being helpful! Mac Henni (talk) 20:38, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-36Edit

09:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019).

  Administrator changes

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  Technical news

  • Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
  • The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.

  Arbitration

  Miscellaneous


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter September-October 2019Edit

Hello Nick Moyes,

Backlog

Instead of reaching a magic 300 as it once did last year, the backlog approaching 6,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Coordinator

A proposal is taking place here to confirm a nominated user as Coordinator of NPR.

This month's refresher course

Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.

Deletion tags

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Paid editing

Please be sure to look for the tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. WMF policy requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines' (SNG). Alternatives to deletion
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves once more with notability guidelines for organisations and companies.
  • Blank-and-Redirect is a solution anchored in policy. Please consider this alternative before PRODing or CSD. Note however, that users will often revert or usurp redirects to re-create deleted articles. Do regularly patrol the redirects in the feed.
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  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, and if they do have potential, tag as required, then move to draft. Modify the text of the template as appropriate before sending it.
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Thanks and essayEdit

Hi Nick. Thanks for your support at RfA. It's truly appreciated. You might also be interested reading in the essay I alluded to in reply to you. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Original Barnstar
Thank you very much for providing me with many options to check out, I am working through them already. I will provide some feedback as soon as I can.
Tvincent88 (talk) 02:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much for this, Tvincent88. If you let me know the best (and maybe the worst ones) I promise to view them and to offer the best to others at the Teahouse. Nick Moyes (talk) 06:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

Hi Nick, Thanks for welcoming me!, you know what, I got a nomination posted! lol, it's the death of Tonga's Prime Minister, nothiing happy, but well, lol. Thanks again! --CoryGlee (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey that's fantastic news (for you, that is!). A great achievement for a new editor to get a post on the main page. You'll go far! Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

TheWikiWizard - September 2019Edit

Hello, Nick Moyes! Here is the September 2019 issue of TheWikiWizard.

We Hope you like this month's issue! If you'd like to discuss this issue, please go to this issue's talk page. Happy Reading! Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


Derby Railway Engineering Society (DRES)Edit

Hi Nick

Thank you for contacting me.

I would really appreciate some help on getting the DRES page published. I clearly am not having much luck at the moment! There is additional content I wish to add about the Society including: a summary of the history of the society, what the society does today and a list of past presidents. This will also include external references to books, newspaper articles, websites, the society web site and archive material from the society. How many of these do I need to reference before the article becomes acceptable to Wikipedia?

Kind regards

Mark Zawisza — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markz55 (talkcontribs) 12:56, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Markz55. Now it's a draft, you can work on it for as long as you wish without anyone bothering you (unless you add copyrighted content). Drafts generally only get deleted if they go untouched (unedited) for 6 months. So feel free to add other encyclopaedic content when you have the time. The really key thing, however, is that you cannot base an article on an organisation's own website - that's purely free promotion. It is essential to be able to show references which evidence that other, reliable souces have written about DRES in detail. These don't have to be online, but they must be published and potentially available. Private Society archives or other unpublished documents just dont cut it. A 1920s D.E.T. notice of a forthcoming meeting, or brief summary of a past one are not sufficient. There will be many other groups (eg Midland Railways Natural History Society - now Derby Nat.Hist.Soc.) which would face similar challenges to meet the organisational notability criteria laid out in WP:NORG. So start by looking for three or more good independent references before spending time on adding minor detail.
BTW:I saw you had another article draftified about a Hotel. This stands more chance of being accepted, especially if you focusand expand on the historic Grade II listed conservation status and link to that definition. I'd be happy to give it a look over once you're happy youve investigated all possible historic sources.
Finally, it helps a lot if you sign every talk page post. Just add four keyboard tildes (like this: ~~~~) right at the end. Forgive all my minor typos here - am rather busy redecorating, and am on a tiny mobile device, and in a rush. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:33, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Nick

Many thanks for the prompt reply. Most helpful.

I have updated the draft about DRES now to include more information about the society and I have included external references (books and websites) which mention the society in detail. Would you be kind enough to have a look and see if this "cuts it". I presume you still have access to the draft?

Thank you for mentioning the Grapes Hotel. I will try and find a bit more about it from a conservation point of view. I will update it and come back to you.

Kind regards

Markz55 (talk) 15:07, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Edmund de Waal copy editEdit

Hi Nick, Thanks for your help so far with editing advice and for sending me in the right direction for more information on what makes a good Wiki entry. I have spent some time in the last couple of days giving the Edmund de Waal entry a good copy edit to try and make it more neutral in tone, and by adding some further references as per your advice. I was wondering if you had the chance, could you have a look over the entry for me? I'm sure there is probably room for more edits to condense the text, but I was cautious not to remove too much information in case it was deemed necessary. I am more than happy to take on any further edits and advice you may have. :-) Fieldguide (talk) 08:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

My first wiki birthday...Edit

Has happened! I can now say I've been on Wikipedia for slightly over a year. Clovermoss (talk) 01:47, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Yay - congratulations, Youve cone a long way in that time, haven't you? I've nearly completed my reply to you on our dedicated talk page. You'll see that I said I'll ping you when its complete. Nick Moyes (talk) 02:12, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

I've discouraged a new editor and I don't think I've done enough to make up for it or if that's even possible to doEdit

Hi, Nick. I've made a mistake. I wrongly assumed that AMarkMcLean might be a paid editor, when they're just a new editor interested in improving the Wikipedia article. I feel terrible about it, but I'm not sure what else to do. I replied on their talk page and made a comment on the COIN noticeboard about my mistake [29], but I'm afraid that it might not sound sincere coming from me. I'm aware that mentioning their username will give a notification; which is part of the reason I'm asking for your advice, as I was hoping that someone like you could be more welcoming than I have been in this situation. Clovermoss (talk) 00:05, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

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