Drganand.13

March 2020

Hello, I'm ToBeFree. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to Hydroxychloroquine because they seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hydroxychloroquine edits

You are a new editor here, yet seem insistent on not reading or providing edit summaries. This edit is your opinion, not supported by WP:MEDRS reviews, uses in vitro data which are now not a topic (the drug has use-approvals, and the source used is lab research too preliminary for an encyclopedia), and you give your opinion about what's important on Youtube. We don't cite Youtube, as the source may be copy-protected and is not a reliable WP:SECONDARY review of a topic, WP:YT, especially for drugs and medicine. Please discuss first on the talk page why you feel this is important, and get consensus there, WP:CON., and try to find peer-reviewed high-quality sources per WP:MEDREV. Also, do not edit war, WP:3RR. --Zefr (talk) 19:18, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

You said: "In major medical emergencies, it is urgent that the available facts be debated. An urgent debate needs to take place on the following questions: Is it more dangerous to wait for clinical trials (which could take weeks/months before offering prevention to nurses, doctors, firemen and paramedics and who are already in great danger), and if a patient is at extreme risk by reason of their medical condition (such as immunosuppression) and if they don't have any of the contraindications (forbidden situation) listed by the manufacturer then is it better to wait for research on prevention? As you know, COVID-19 is ripping through nursing homes and killing people in numbers. The true spirit of Wikipedia is to foster debate. I understand that under normal circumstances you want to see a published clinical trial, but this could be dangerous to the public. I recommend that you allow me to list the 5, or so, best scientific papers. I agree to refrain from youtube videos. I suggest that if a proper disclaimer is added, then it is reasonable under these special circumstances to include certain information. I assume you have no objections to posting information about regulatory announcements, information from highly credible resources, and a list of trials in-progress so that interested parties can track new scientific information as it becomes available." Wikipedia has policies against creating a forum for current events --> WP:NOTFORUM and WP:RECENTISM. Remind yourself that this is an encyclopedia, not a news site, WP:NOTNEWS. Any drug or medical article can be updated with WP:MEDRS reviews. It seems the discussion about hydroxychloroquine should be about its potential approvable uses, after clinical trials or more experience are completed. The article is adequately updated. You can begin any discussion on the talk page, as long it is about improving the article, and is not about your opinion for what is important now. --Zefr (talk) 20:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay understood. I didn't know if i should message you or tobefree but i did get an answer and a better understanding. i messaged the talk page and gave them the resources i had available. although they most likely will agree with you, it is my first day and each message is making me learn something new about posting on Wikipedia. thanks for your time, and stay safe! Drganand.13 (talk) 20:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Important, and possibly only, warning

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While the above message normally "does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions", there have been issues with your contributions, as described above, and in my reply to your message at User talk:ToBeFree. Please be more careful when editing about this topic. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Objection

Hi Drganand.13, thanks for your message. To quickly note this before any bad ideas happen: I strongly object to any further edits to the article by you, if they are made in this promotional spirit. I highly recommend avoiding any further edits to the article before you have reached a consensus on the article's talk page. Discussions on individual user talk pages are not a sufficient alternative to a proper article discussion. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:11, 31 March 2020 (UTC)