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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.) Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If a consensus is reached after this time, a mover will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or be as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

The Move review process can be used to contest a move. It is designed to evaluate a contested close of a move discussion to determine if the close was reasonable, or whether it was inconsistent with the spirit and intent of Wikipedia common practice, policies, or guidelines.

When not to use this pageEdit

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed movesEdit

Anyone may move a page without discussion if:

  • No article exists at the new target title;
  • There has not been any discussion (especially recent discussion) about the title for the page that expresses disagreement with the new target title;
  • And it seems unlikely anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Requesting technical movesEdit

If you are unable to complete a technical move, request it below.

  • To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code filling in pages and reason:
    {{subst:RMassist|current page title|new page title|reason = reason for move}}
    This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
  • If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~.
  • If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

Uncontroversial technical requestsEdit

Contested technical requestsEdit

Requests to revert undiscussed movesEdit

Requesting controversial and potentially controversial movesEdit

The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. The move is potentially controversial if any of the following apply:

  • There is an existing article (not just a redirect) at the target title;
  • There has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
  • Someone could reasonably disagree with the move.

Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. In particular, use this process before moving any existing page with incoming links to create a disambiguation page at that title. For technical move requests (e.g. spelling and capitalization fixes), see Requesting technical moves.

Do not put more than one open move request on the same article talk page, because this is not supported by the bot that handles updates to this page. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.

Requesting a single page moveEdit

To request a single page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new header, inserting this code:

{{subst:requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. Do not sign this.}}

Replace NewName with the requested new name of the page (or with a question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 23 September 2017" and sign for you.

Use the code |talk=yes to add separate locations for survey and discussion.

Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as RfC, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topic.

WikiProjects may subscribe to Article Alerts to receive RM notifications, e.g. this page is transcluded to here. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or Noticeboard that might be interested in the move request.

Requesting multiple page movesEdit

A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).

{{subst:requested move
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. Do not sign this.}}

For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia and Wiki, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia, and replace current2 with Wiki. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia). Do not sign a request with ~~~~ as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.

RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.

Commenting in a requested moveEdit

All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. It is a place for rational discussion of whether an article should be renamed.

There are a number of practices that most Wikipedians use in such discussions:

  • When editors recommend a course of action, they usually do so in bold text, e. g., Support or Oppose, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g. '''Support'''.
  • Start comments or recommendations on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *), and sign them by adding ~~~~ to the end. If you are responding to another editor, put your comment directly below theirs, making sure it is indented (using multiple *s).
  • Please disclose whether you have a vested interest in the article, per WP:AVOIDCOI.
  • Please have a look at the article before making a recommendation. Do not base your recommendation solely on the information supplied by the nominator or other editors. To understand the situation, it may also help to look at the history of the article. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior Requested Moves. They may contain relevant arguments and further useful information.

When participating, please consider the following:

  • Ideally editors should be familiar with WP:Article titles, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:MOS (among others) which sets forth community norms for article titles.
  • The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations on the course of action to be taken that are not sustained by arguments.
  • When making your case or responding to others, explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
  • Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.
  • Do not make conflicting recommendations; if you change your mind, modify your original recommendation rather than adding a new one. The recommended way of doing this is to use strike-through by enclosing a retracted statement between <s> and </s> after the *, as in "• Support Oppose".

Also, just a reminder that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but valid arguments will be given more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers arguments or evidence that do not explain how the proposed article title meets/violates policy, they may only need a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion. But a pattern of groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider a dispute resolution process outside the current Requested Move process.

Closing instructionsEdit

Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.


Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing. Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.

Relisting can be done using {{subst:relisting}}, which also signs it automatically, and is placed at the very end of the initial request (after their signature, and subsequent re-listers signatures).

When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.

If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as to notify relevant WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Applicable WikiProjects can often be determined by means of the banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request.

Current discussionsEdit

This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 31 (Discuss)ions have been relisted.

September 23, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)ViséanVisean – The ICS officially recognizes Visean, without the accent, for their 2017 chronostratigraphic chart. This is a convention that should be followed. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 04:11, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

September 22, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)Two-SpiritTwo-spirit – Not only should this be lower-case as a common noun (and adjective derived therefrom) per MOS:CAPS and WP:NCCAPS, even if it were a proper name (which it is not), it would still be "Two-spirit", because we don't capitalize after a hyphen unless what follows the hyphen is itself a proper name (as in "post-Soviet"). It also should remain hyphenated as a compound, and is too ambiguous and confusing with a space ("Her two spirit brother ..." is unparseable gibberish that looks like a typo or some other error to anyone not already intimately familiar with the concept and apt to recognize it as intending "two-spirit"). The lead is veering all over the place with capitalization, hyphen or no hyphen, etc. All these terms should be lower case, like gay, berdache, transsexual, etc., etc. There's not something magico-linguistically special about this term because it pertains to a particular group of people. :-)  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  09:04, 11 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 16:57, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Hawaiian cuisineHawaiian cuisine (disambiguation) – Move to redirect to the clear primary topic of this phrase, Cuisine of Hawaii, which gets more than five times as many pageviews as the other topics combined (both of which are effectively subtopics of this topic). Title consistency would also seem to require that the clear primary topic of any "Foo"-an cuisine article would be identical to the "Cusines of Foo" page for that article. The placement of the disambiguation page at this title is causing problems with the template that identifies cuisines by country, which operates on exactly that premise. bd2412 T 13:40, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Player One Amusement GroupPlaydium – page name was incorrectly changed from Playdium to Player One Amusement Group. Playdium is an arcade centre in Mississauga, whereas Player One Amusement Group is a corporate entity that supplies amusement equipment to businesses and also operates Family Entertainment Centres and arcades like Playdium. All references to Player One Amusement Group should be removed and a separate new page should be created for Player One Amusement Group Mcdl14 (talk) 19:54, 8 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. No such user (talk) 08:30, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

September 21, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)Good Night, and Good LuckGood Night, and Good Luck. – Over eight years ago, in August 2009, three editors, in addition to the nominator, !voted in support of deleting the period at the end of this title. Film titles contain various forms of end punctuation, most frequently question marks and exclamation points. Sometimes the punctuation appears only in the posters and publicity literature, but not in the film's on-screen credits. Such was the case in the recent RM at Talk:The Damned Don't Cry#Requested move 24 June 2017 which brought out that although the posters for the film had an exclamation point, the on-screen film credits did not. In this case, however, both the posters and the on-screen credits contain the period. One of the votes for deletion of the period argued that no one would "actually type the name into search with a period at the end". The same argument, however, may be made for all punctuation within all titles, including the comma in the middle of this title. Many films uppercase their entire titles or put the initial letter of every word in the title in either upper case or lower case, thus negating stylistic arguments regarding those specific matters (in this case, uppercase "A" in "And"). Punctuation, however, should reflect the on-screen title and any uncertainties are handled via redirects. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)RapCityRapCity (Canadian TV series) – This was moved to the undabbed title about a decade ago, on the grounds that since the BET show had a space between Rap and City instead of being camelcased as one word, there was no title conflict. But it's now a principle of WP:DAB that if two titles differ only in punctuation or capitalization or diacritical markings, then they should still be dabbed as if they were identical. Furthermore, Google plainly reveals that references to the American series as "RapCity" without the space, and to the Canadian TV series as "Rap City" with the space, are fairly common in both directions. So for both of those reasons, this should have the disambiguator added to it, as it's not overwhelmingly more notable than the BET series — and the undabbed version should be a redirect to the dab page at Rap City. Bearcat (talk) 20:05, 3 September 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:14, 12 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 20:19, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)ING Direct AustraliaING (Australia) – The bank has changed its name from ING Direct to ING, as is reflected on their website and domain: I'm open for other suggestions to the format of the name (e.g. ING Australia as opposed to ING (Australia)). They do not appear to have made an official press release, so pardon the link to Facebook which I disdain needing to do, but: here is proof. Other contributors have already made changes to this page, e.g. the logo. Matthew Thompson talk to me! 17:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

September 20, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)PaisaciPaishachi – The new suggested title is as per WP:NCIN, simplified transliteration of the name. The current title has the look of a formal transliteration, but without accents. So, it is confusing and, for most readers, it looks wrong. See some of the discussion above. "Paisachi" would be an alternative. It was current in the older literature, but its use has been decreasing [1]. Kautilya3 (talk) 22:03, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Khilji dynastyKhalji dynasty – The majority of the scholarly sources on this topic prefer "Khalji" to "Khilji". This includes older sources such as History of the Khaljis, as well as more recent publications, such as Peter Jackson's The Delhi Sultanate (2003) and Satish Chandra's Medieval India (2004). Encyclopædia Britannica also calls it Khalji dynasty, as do India's NCERT [2] and Pakistan's Ministry of Education [3] (page 10). Google Books search results: * "Khalji" "Delhi" -wikipedia ** 22,300 results, which include the majority of the authoritative works on the topic * "Khilji" "Delhi" -wikipedia ** 18,500 results, several of them exam preparation guides Therefore, I propose that this article be moved to "Khalji dynasty". The related articles (e.g. the names of the dynasty's rulers) should also be moved accordingly. utcursch | talk 19:50, 13 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa (talk) 20:58, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

September 19, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)CaddyCaddie – Per past talk page comments which point out that caddie is the preferred term. There is a Professional Caddies Association, an Association of Professional Tour Caddies, a European Tour Caddies Association, the Commons page goes to 'Caddie', and per the List of Caddie Hall of Fame inductees. In looking up the Caddie Hall of Fame on google it seems almost every link referring to the job/position calls it 'Caddie'. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:52, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Yuri on IceYuri!!! on IceProcedural listing; a requested move has been open for some time, but was not listed as an RM and so has not attracted a significant number of commments yet. Original nomination is below this RM header.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  04:24, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Keijo!!!!!!!!Keijo (manga) – Per MOS:TM, and news sources demonstrating that the real world does not treat this extraneous punctuation pile-up as an integral part of the title. This "!!!!!" stuff is pure marketing stylization, part of a long-running Japanese trend to stuff Western punctuation marks into titles for decoration (often "!", sometimes ".", etc.). The lead sentence should start "Keijo (stylized Keijo!!!!!!!!) ...". See Gangsta (manga) and the RM on its talk page. There are a few other !-laden Japanese entertainment articles to clean up, but let's start with the grossly excessive cases. See also broader search results; lots without the "!!!" stuff, which is kept primarily by fannish blogs, forums, and other self-published, user-generated, non-independent, and otherwise unreliable sources. We permit MOS:TM exceptions when (and only) when the creators/producers/studio consistently use the stylization and the vast majority of sources also do so (e.g. for Deadmau5 but not for "Ke$ha" or "P!nk").  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  04:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

September 18, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)Arrondissements of ParisDistricts of Paris – 'Districts' is the most acceptable English translation for 'Arrondissement'. There are few redirects to manage after, as the pages linking to the new namespace are speaking of districts (administrative subdivisions) anyway. TP   21:10, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Native AmericansNative Americans (disambiguation) – Redirect Native Americans to Native Americans in the United States, per WP:PRIMARY. Some of the entries on the disambiguation page appear to be original research; e.g. First Nations of Canada are not referred to as Native Americans (except inasmuch as they're within the category of indigenous peoples of the Americas, which "Native American" is (rarely) used to mean, as a confusingly ambiguous blanket term). The DAB page's current breakdown of just about every article we have on subtopics of indigenous peoples of the Americas isn't how we do DAB pages. No one ever writes "Native Americans" and specifically and only means "indigenous peoples in Ecuador", so entries like that should not be on this page.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  20:47, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Lud son of HeliKing Lud – Clearer title, and ten times as many references in a Google Books search to "King Lud" as to "Lud son of Heli" (with or without a comma). Gapfall (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

September 17, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)RavenousRavenous (1999 film) – This film is not well-known enough, nor was it commercially successful enough, to qualify as the primary topic for the plain title. Virtually the only identifiable reason I can locate for the 1999 film having the undabbed title is that it was the earliest article to get created — I can find no strong evidence that it outstrips any of the other Ravenouses in comparative notability. Bearcat (talk) 18:16, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Greenwich Library, ConnecticutGreenwich Library – Move to proper name for the library. There are not yet any other known places named "Greenwich Library", so disambiguation is not needed. If an article gets started for a library in Greenwich, England, and disambiguation becomes needed, then the proper way to disambiguate this one is to use parenthetical city-state disambiguation as in "Greenwich Library (Greenwich, Connecticut)", as done for historic libraries listed on the U.S. National Register and other U.S. places. A one-sentence article existed briefly at Greenwich Library (currently a redirect), but this Greenwich Library, Connecticut article is longer, and its edit history is the edit history more worth preserving. doncram 18:11, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Sanusi Lamido SanusiMuhammadu Sanusi II – The Emir is no longer officially addressed as Sanusi Lamido Sanusi as he changed his name to Muhammadu Sanusi II after becoming the Emir of Kano. Therefore, it will be better for the article to reflect the new name. Zubairu Dalhatu 14:17, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Han ChineseHan people
    First, Han people is a ethnic group, although it account for a proportion of 92% of China's people, not all of it is "Chinese nationality", Han people is a ethnic group. There are also Han people of Japanese nationality, Han people of French nationality, Han people of U.S. nationality. So the correct usage is "Han people".
    Second, we can refer to“Yamato people”,although “Yamato people” account for a proportion of 99% of Japan's people, we call it “Yamato people”,not “Yamato Japanese”.
    MacArthur1945 (talk) 13:24, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Yan ZiYan Zi (tennis) – I don't think the tennis player is primary topic since the c.500BC philosopher Yan Ying is very widely known as "Yan Zi". This can be verified by performing a simple Google Books search of "Yan Zi". The tennis player has no long-term significance over Yan Ying, nor does it average significantly more page views. [8] Baseline should be a dab page. Timmyshin (talk) 06:22, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Sexual surrogateSurrogate Partner Therapy – "Surrogate Partner Therapy" more accurately describes the topic being addressed. Though the term "sex surrogate" has been commonly used, most surrogate partners prefer the term "surrogate partner." In either case, "Surrogate Partner Therapy" is the modality under which such persons work. This title also invites more contributions; the subject is not just the people doing the work, but the therapeutic process as a whole. Emikokoyo (talk) 01:58, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)BonapartisteBonapartiste movement – Per WP:NOUN. Bonapartiste is an adjective, and as an adjective it can be used on almost anything. A Bonapartiste person, a Bonapartiste party, a Bonapartiste general. This article is clearly about the political movement. Appah Rao (talk) 00:45, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

September 16, 2017Edit

  • (Discuss)Society Hill, PhiladelphiaSociety Hill – Per WP:PTOPIC, Society Hill in Philadelphia is a primary topic, that should have a hatnote guiding readers to Society Hill (disambiguation) to find the other uses. With respect to long-term significance of the term, Society Hill, Philadelphia has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term, and with respect to usage it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for the term “Society Hill.” See Related Talk PagePHILA19106 (talk) 17:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)NovopolatskNovopolotsk – The name Navapolatsk is an incorrect name, encountering the fact that it is composed of 'novo-' and 'Polotsk' (literally New Polotsk) in Belarusian. Compare with any city such as New York, which would not be written in an other way. Please cancel my mistake in the move I made (from Navapolatsk to Novopolatsk). Les Yeux Noirs (talk) 15:45, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Elapsed listingsEdit

  • (Discuss)ZaynZayn (disambiguation) – Zayn Malik obviously is the most notable Zayn[9]. The title "Zayn" should become a redirect to Zayn Malik and the disambiguation page should be moved to the other title. — Zawl 10:49, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Ayo (album)Ayo (Wizkid album) – With the release and creation of the article for Ayo (Bomba Estéreo album) in August, there are now two albums on Wikipedia titled Ayo, and I don't believe the Wizkid album has enough notability to be considered the primary topic, particularly as the Bomba Estéreo record has charted on the Billboard Latin charts and is likely to be the record that has more searches in North and South America. But I'm not certain whether Ayo (album) should then be kept as a separate disambiguation page, or merged into the current Ayo disambiguation page. Richard3120 (talk) 19:51, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)New England Sports NetworkNESN – It seems as if today and throughout the article, the channel is just simply referred to as "NESN" and not by its abbreviation, so it would make more sense to title it "NESN". JE98 (talk) 16:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)--Relisting.usernamekiran(talk) 19:04, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)LANcoLanco – LANco is an improper way of stylization to me, when "LAN" is for "Lancaster", so I feel that it would be better as "Lanco". JE98 (talk) 15:57, 15 September 2017 (UTC)


  • (Discuss)Find (command)Find (Windows) – See related RM at Talk:Find i.e. proposed move to Find (Unix). Both of these articles with roughly equal page views are Find "commands" but the DOS/Windows command is completely different to the Unix command. Find (DOS) can redirect to (Windows) or vice-versa. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:53, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Kingdom of TondoTondo (historical polity) – Although there was no consensus on the previously proposed name (Tondo (early Philippine history)), I believe (a) that the discussion speaks for itself that there IS majority (although not unanimous) consensus that the current name, Kingdom of Tondo, misrepresents the topic as understood by current scholarship; and (b) that there the discussion has indicated that while the previously suggested name was problematic, another option, Tondo (historical polity) was more acceptable than both. I am thus re-proposing that this article be renamed to nomenclature more acceptable to the community, as supported in the previous discussion. Alternativity (talk) 03:25, 15 September 2017 (UTC)


  1. ^ Hotărârea Comitetului de Urgență din 24 august 2017
  2. ^ Schedule.
  3. ^ Mrozik, Suzanne (2004). "Mahāmaudgalyāyana" (PDF). In Buswell, Robert E. Encyclopedia of Buddhism. New York [u.a.]: Macmillan Reference USA, Thomson Gale. pp. 487–8. ISBN 0-02-865720-9. 
Farang Rak Tham (talk) 00:21, 26 August 2017 (UTC) --Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:52, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy warIran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict – This is the previous title, which was changed without consensus. As I've said previously, it is more accurate to call it a "proxy conflict" as opposed to a "proxy war." It seems minor, but the conflict involves a series of proxy wars, especially in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen. It also involves proxy conflicts in countries that aren't wars, like in Bahrain. I realize that it's been referred to both as a "proxy conflict" and a "proxy war" depending on the source, but the Saudi Arabia-Iran situation itself is a state of conflict, not a proxy war. The list of proxy wars article (although imperfect) acknowledges this with separate entries for each war that falls within the scope of the Saudi-Iran conflict. However, since the conflict has been referred to as both names, I think the intro should be similar to the Iran–Israel proxy conflict article, which acknowledges both names but keeps the more accurate "conflict" title. KD 02:09, 4 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:49, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Koryo-saramKoryo Saram – Sources of the paragraph "References" in this article marked the "Koryo Saram". (e.g. Kim, German Nikolaevich (2003), Names of Koryo Saram, Al-Farabi University, archived from the original on 30 October 2003, retrieved 26 March 2007 ) Also, always the phrase "Koryo Saram" has a word spacing in Cyrillic and Korean language, like "Корё сарам" in Cyrillic and "고려 사람" in Korean language. Thanks. -- Garam (talk) 17:07, 1 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. DrStrauss talk 17:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Kévin MayerKevin Mayer – There doesn't appear to be an accent in this French athlete's name; the accent appears only in Wikipedia pages. No other search results have yielded "Kévin" with regard to this specific person, including official profiles and articles in French-language media where accents are integral to orthography – and therefore where it wouldn't be considered proper to leave a diacritic out of a name, like English tends to do with foreign names. References available in the article itself. Luisftd (talk) 18:37, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
  • (Discuss)Race and crime → ? – This article is narrowly about racial disparity in the criminal justice system, not about general connections or alleged connections between race and crime. That's an article we don't have but desperately need, despite the controversiality of the topic. (That is, among the general public; as far as I can tell, the scientific consensus is that propensity toward crime is socio-economic, not genetic. A related "academic" topic is Biosocial criminology, and Statistical correlations of criminal behaviour also mentions the question in passing without any real detail, and that seems to be all we have.) The present article text is mostly about the US, but it's barely above stub level and the article's talk page already calls for widening the lens. However, whether there's police and judicial prejudice against minorities, and whether there's a connection between ethnicity (or other genetics) and criminality are completely unconnected topics, and neither of them are described by "Race and crime", which is fatally ambiguous. I'm not certain what the proper title for this article is. I think that people from the sociology, criminology, etc., wikiprojects will have a good answer in mind, though. [Update: I inserted the first proposal, "Race and criminal justice", as a likely one.] — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  04:31, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

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