Wikipedia:Requests for page importation

Requests for page importation

This is a place to request that pages be imported with history of pages from other Wikimedia Foundation wikis to here. This might be done if a page was copied and pasted from a WMF wiki to here, or, in the case of the Nostalgia Wikipedia, to make very old revisions accessible. Administrators can import pages from Meta, Commons, the Outreach Wiki, the Test2 Wikipedia site, and the German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, and Nostalgia Wikipedias to the English Wikipedia (see Phabricator task 22280 for relevant shell permission requests, and to request permissions for importing from more projects). It is also possible to indirectly perform a transwiki import from other projects by using step-wise process through a third project that has a project mapping already created, although using the export/import process may be simpler.

Guidelines for admins

Check the history of the source page before importing. If there are overlapping edits between the source and destination page, import the edits into the MediaWiki talk namespace, since it is very rarely used. Follow this procedure, where "foo" is the title of the page in the English Wikipedia and "bar" is the title of the source page:

  1. Import "bar". When asked for the namespace, select "MediaWiki talk".
  2. Move "foo" to "MediaWiki talk:bar". When asked whether you want to delete the page, answer yes.
  3. From the "move succeeded" window, there is a link to the page history at "MediaWiki talk:bar". Activate it, perhaps in another tab or window, and there will be some text in the form "View or restore xxx deleted edits?". Activate the link associated with that text and undelete the imported edits that you need. The remaining edits will stay safely deleted in the MediaWiki talk namespace.
  4. Revert the move you made in step two. Uncheck the box that says "Leave a redirect behind", since redirects from the MediaWiki talk namespace are useless. If you want, you can use the "revert" link in the "move succeeded" window. The page move should go without a hitch.

The same procedure can be used when there are no overlapping edits, but in this case, it's best to move the page first, so the import appears in the page history.

In general, do not use the "assign edits to local users where the named user exists locally", leaving this off will indicate in the history the project the edits came from and you won't have to worry about non-created accounts here.

See User:Graham87/Import for guidelines on importing from the Nostalgia Wikipedia. There is a log of all page imports at Special:Log/import.

  • Language: en:Triplex locomotive
  • New name: User:Pechristener/Multiplex locomotive
  • Note: In the discussion of the source article, we came to the conclusion to split the article. I try to do this here the same way, as we do it in the German Wikipedia by importing the article in a new article in the user space, where the new article can be preapred without loosing the version hisotry of the old one.--Pechristener (talk) 16:13, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Note by importing administrator: Not done. @Pechristener:, that's not what we do here ... it'd gunk up contributions. See Wikipedia:Merging. Graham87 (talk) 04:14, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Sorry, not understood. I like to do a split, not a merge as mentioned in Wikipedia:Merging. Pechristener (talk) 10:01, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    We still don't double up contribution history. That's just not what we do here. Graham87 (talk) 17:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Why not? It's probably not worth doing every time we text-split articles, but I don't think it's inherently a bad idea that should be ruled out. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:13, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Like ... I've never heard of anyone trying to do it *anywhere* until this discussion. If it came to a !vote on whether it should be allowed, I'd oppose FWIW ... it would make peoples' contributions pages harder to navigate, for one, and would mess with people's edit count statistics even more (imported edits aren't counted in the edit count field; see say this edit (note the higher revision ID) and compare it with this contribs page). Graham87 (talk) 09:29, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    +1 we don't need this; just put a link to the article you are splitting from in the edit summary you start the forked article under; feel free to note that on the talk page as well. — xaosflux Talk 10:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    ... seems like I started quite a discussion here, what was actually not may idea. For me, it is OK as it is and I will follow the split guide. However, there are different views from different Wikipedia language versions. The German Wikipedia quite insists in doubling the edit history, while in the English version, this is handled differently. Pechristener (talk) 14:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Language: de:Leadec
  • New name: Leadec
  • Note: Please duplicate the existing "Leadec" page in German into in English. Thank you! -- (talk) 06:43, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Note by importing administrator: Not done; we don't import a non-English article straight into the main namespace. Since the article is about a business with many potential conflict of interest concerns, I'd generally be reluctant to import the page anyway without the backing of a highly established user. Graham87 (talk) 17:01, 20 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Language: de:kurzer Fuß
  • New name: short foot
  • Note: -- The question I have about the import process if the actual translation is my responsibility? Or is a community process I can choose to involved in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachtkap (talkcontribs) 19:20, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Note by importing administrator: Not done, we don't import non-English articles straight in to the main namespace. The translation would be your responsibility alone but I'd strongly advise against it in this case for a number of reasons, mostly because we don't even have an article about [[Vladimír Janda, the technique's creator (due to it being [[WP:CSD#G5|created by a banned user), Wikipedia's sourcing guidelines in medical articles have extremely high standards, and the fact that you didn't even sign your message here shows that you don't have enough experience to deal with all these issues. Graham87 (talk) 03:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Well can I instead submit the technique and the author for import and translation through the channels you use for such things? Nachtkap (talk) 14:14, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    We effectively don't have any channels for such things, as described at Wikipedia:Translation (the requested articles route described there has a multi-decade backlog). Also, we're not huge fans of alternative medicine on the English Wikipedia in general. The fact that importation is even enabled on the English Wikipedia is basically a historical accident. Graham87 (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Language: de:Frank Mehring
  • New name: Frank Mehring
  • Note: --Itzak G (talk) 10:09, 24 November 2023 (UTC) A globally positioned Americanist with a focus on American-European cultural exchange, actively involved in numerous international networks, exhibitions, and projects related to environmental conservation and ArtandClimateChange. - Itzak_GReply[reply]
  • Note by importing administrator: As I said to you above, we don't import non-English articles straight into the article namespace. If you can't understand this instruction, you're not equipped to deal with the rigours of article translation so I won't assist you further. Graham87 (talk) 13:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]