MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist

Latest comment: 4 days ago by Pppery in topic Obscure and unusual blacklisted terms

    The following instructions were copied from mw:Extension:Title Blacklist.

    The disallowed titles list is maintained as a system message MediaWiki:Titleblacklist.

    This page consists of regular expressions, each on a separate line. For example:

    Foo <autoconfirmed|noedit|errmsg=blacklisted-testpage> 
    Bar #No one should create article about it

    There is no need to use "^" at the beginning and "$" at the end; these are added automatically.

    Each entry may also contain optional attributes, enclosed in <> and divided by |

    • autoconfirmed — only non-autoconfirmed users are unable to create/upload/move such pages
    • noedit — users are also unable to edit this page
    • casesensitive — don't ignore case when checking title for being disallowed
    • errmsg — the name of the message that should be displayed instead of standard

    When the action is blocked, one of the following messages is displayed together with the filter row (as $1): titleblacklist-forbidden-edit, titleblacklist-forbidden-move, titleblacklist-forbidden-new-account or titleblacklist-forbidden-upload. Generic filenames have their own custom error message, MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-imagename.

    There is also MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist and a global title blacklist.

    Only administrators, page movers and template editors can override this list on all actions. When they override this list when creating or editing a page, MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-warning is displayed. Account creators can override this list on account creations only.

    The disallowed usernames list is handled at meta:Title blacklist by adding entries with the <newaccountonly> parameter.

    Filename blacklist edit

    Hello, I am new to writing Wikipedia pages but I am not completely sure that this it the right page. I attempted to upload an image of the boyflux flag, which was named "boyflux.png" I was trying to upload this in my sandbox, however I just ended up with this message instead: "The file name you were trying to upload has been blacklisted because it is very common, uninformative, or spelled in ALLCAPS. Please go back and choose a better file name. When uploading files to Wikimedia Commons, please use a file name that describes the content of the image or media file you're uploading and is sufficiently distinctive that no-one else is likely to pick the same name by accident." I tried to change it's name to "boyfluxgenderidentity.png" but got the same message. I also do understand that I do have a past of vandalism however I've stopped doing that to wikipedia pages, and now will only edit them if I see errors, or would like to cite sources that are missing from them. Mrsimonst9969666 (talk) 18:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

    It might be a bug, I could try to upload it if it doesn't work on your side. Which boyflux flag do you want? (There are a bunch of them, I guess probably this one? I'll have to check the license to see if it can be uploaded but I think it should) Chaotic Enby (talk) 07:00, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
    It would not meet the threshold of creativity to be copyrighted so its in the public domain. :3 F4U (they/it) 02:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
    @Mrsimonst9969666: This would be an issue with the commons:MediaWiki:Titleblacklist, not with ours, although at a glance I'm not seeing anything in their blacklist that would cause this issue. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 07:09, 15 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
    I have same issue. I have same issue, even when i am trying to upload modified image with same filename it had before! Urmo123 (talk) 09:33, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Protected edit request on 22 September 2023 edit

    Add the <antispoof> attribute to .*[D|d]om.*[P|p]ewee.* as per the recent creation of DDP DJ Dominic Pewe€ (DJ D P) this page via a sockpuppet. Deauthorized. (talk) 03:13, 22 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

      Done * Pppery * it has begun... 18:05, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Protected edit request on 23 October 2023 edit

    Please remove (?!(?:Talk:|(?:User|Wikipedia|File|MediaWiki|Template|Help|Category|Portal|Draft|TimedText|Module) talk:)).*\/Print <noedit|errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-print> from the title blacklist.

    It has been ten years since the potential security problems were discovered, and they ought to have been fixed by now. Also, certain non-print templates are also locked such as Template:HD/print. Book namespace was disabled and the default MediaWiki print service were disabled for security reasons. Awesome Aasim 23:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Also delete MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-print per G8 after removal. Awesome Aasim 23:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
    Pinged TheDJ and Davidgothberg here to see if the security issues have been, in fact, fixed. In particular, while the book creator is inactive now the download-as-PDF function is still active - does it rely on /Print subpages? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
    This should be no problem to remove. The /print functionality was removed quite some time ago and is not going to return. And even before it was removed, I'm pretty sure this issue had been fixed already for a while. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 08:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks. OK, this is done then, as well as the corresponding rule on the titlewhitelist. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Edit request 11 November 2023 edit

    Description of suggested change: the .*sssniperwolf.* entry doesn't seem to serve a purpose anymore because SSSniperWolf.Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:03, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Edit request 22 November 2023 edit

    Description of suggested change: Could you please add the terms "super mario wiki" and "mariowiki" to the blacklist? There's been multiple attempts to get an article about the fan-run Super Mario wiki, despite not being notable (See Special:Diff/1186343919). — Davest3r08 >:) (talk) 16:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Oppose @Davest3r08, this is only one user? The blacklist does not exist to prevent one user from doing something. That's what WP:ANI is for. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1142#Possible ultra? seems to have handled this.Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
    (Non-administrator comment) Definitely only a handful of pages, no proof this can't be handled using normal WP:SALT. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 09:53, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
    Noting here that the deletion discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Mario Wiki has been closed as delete and the page Super Mario Wiki has been salted. No evidence yet that there will be attempts to circumvent the salting, so oppose. Nothing needs to be done here, but I'll wait for an admin to close this. (Non-administrator comment) Liu1126 (talk) 10:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
      Not done * Pppery * it has begun... 01:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Blacklist annamalai edit

    (Sorry everyone, my first request here, don't know how the system works; hope this informal approach will suffice.)

    I'm requesting blacklisting of the string *annamalai*, either alone or in any combination with any other character(s), to prevent new page creation in the main and draft spaces.

    Please see this ANI discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#K._Annamalai_et_al. Countless drafts and articles have been created, and in all probability will continue to be created, for a politician described in eg. this draft Draft:K. Annamalai (politician), using never-ending variations of the title. Please help plug this time-sink.

    Thank you, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Just .*annamalai.* is far too broad - current title hits in mainspace, plus it's a common surname. \bannamalai\b.*k|k.*\bannamalai\b from quarry:query/77802 isn't good enough either; still too many false positives and negatives. Maybe annamalai.*(\bk\b|kuppu)|(\bk\b|kuppu).*annamalai. And as I mentioned at ANI, it should exclude at least the talk: and wikipedia: namespaces. Maybe draft/draft talk: as well, or we could bless one of the existing drafts (there are currently at least three) and forbid any others. —Cryptic 12:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks @Cryptic (and sorry, I meant to go back to ANI to say I'd opened this, but got sidetracked). As these editors have shown already, they are perfectly willing to spell the name differently, swap last and first name around, abbreviate either name with or without punctuation, etc. I've lost count of how many variations I've seen, and IIRC the only constant throughout has been 'annamalai'. I get that we can't create too general a block, if it then does more harm than good, but a narrow one just won't have the desired effect, I don't think.
    I take it the rule will only consider the title, or can it made to peek into the draft/article contents also? As in, if the title has 'annamalai' and the contents include, say, this person's year of birth or name of their party, only then it would get blocked. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
    It can't look at the contents. The edit filter could, but that's much less efficient, has a greater chance of catastrophic false positives, is a much worse editing experience (it won't kick in until after someone writes up an article and tries to save it, instead of preventing creation in the first place), and it shouldn't be necessary in the first place. If we're still getting unnacceptable false positives after refining the regex all we can, we could add a custom error message; but I don't think that'll be necessary either. quarry:query/78646 will have matches on my pattern above in a few minutes, though this method can't be used to test namespace exclusions. —Cryptic 13:38, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
    (?!(wikipedia( talk)?:|talk:)).*(annamalai.*(\bk\b|kuppu)|(\bk\b|kuppu).*annamalai).*    # Special:Permalink/1189541550#K. Annamalai et al, Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 November 2#Annamalai Kuppusamy, quarry:query/78646

    Edit request because I'm involved here. Omission of .* at the start is deliberate. Replace the start with (?!((draft|wikipedia)( talk)?:|talk:)) to allow draft: and draft talk: as well, though that's not my preference. —Cryptic 13:58, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

      Done * Pppery * it has begun... 01:10, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

    Protected edit request on 3 January 2024 edit

    Should we auto semi-protect Deaths in ... pages because of vandalism by IPs during the New Year's Eve, when it's not protected?

    Deaths in 20\d{2,3} <noedit|errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-deathpages|autoconfirmed>

    Just a random Wikipedian(talk) 13:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

      Not done We would need a much broader discussion before applying pre-emptive protection. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Edit request (January 2024) edit

    I request to make an image that is a screenshot of Hobartville from Google Maps, as it says the page needs more images on the Community portal. I want to do this to become more experienced and trusted as an editor. Oo-rah! the marines are here (talk) 17:47, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

      Not done Badly misplaced and malformed. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:18, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Fix for the "nine consecutive capital letters" entry in userspace edit

    Description of suggested change: I'm not sure exactly how this would be done, but could someone edit this to make it so that the filter .*\p{Lu}(\P{L}*\p{Lu}){9}.* <casesensitive | moveonly> # Disallows moves with more than nine consecutive capital letters allows moves in userspace that include someone's username if it matches that filter? I can't move my user subpages anywhere because I (foolishly) chose a username with all capital letters. LOOKSQUARE (👤️·🗨️) talk 21:35, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

    I am disinclined to modify sitewide rules to accommodate your admittedly foolish username choice. Consider changing your username. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
    @LOOKSQUARE: If there aren't too many pages that you want moved, you can ping me of which ones that would be, and I'll move them. SilverLocust 💬 22:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
      Not done you may file an edit request on the page you want to move asking it to be moved. — xaosflux Talk 23:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
    WP:RM/TR#Uncontroversial technical requests would be the more usual place to request a Titleblacklist override. SilverLocust 💬 23:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Blacklist curly quote? edit

    Per MOS:CURLY, we should almost always use straight quotes in titles. There are currently ~20 articles with curly quotes in the title, and for a while I was moving one every few days to use the proper symbol, indicating that the rule is being rampantly ignored. I suggest we enforce it by adding (which seems to be much more common than the other characters) to the title blacklist, with a custom error message and possibly with restrictions on namespace. Thoughts? * Pppery * it has begun... 04:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

    We already have a similar in spirit rule for blacklisting full-width characters, and have since 2008 (MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-custom-fullwidth). * Pppery * it has begun... 04:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Remove string annamalai edit

    The topic is notable, but why is it on the blacklist? Toadette (Let's talk together!) 21:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

    See the entry in WP:DEEPER and Talk:K. Annamalai#Page protection. Curbon7 (talk) 22:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Obscure and unusual blacklisted terms edit

    I can't help but notice that some of the blacklisted terms are either quite obscure or pretty much outdated as of 2024. I get why topics like BFDI and [blatantly offensive terms] are blacklisted. However, I don't fully understand how seemingly random and not-so-obvious terms like .*chaos.{0,5}ashington.* and .*,,+.* <moveonly> (and their variations) get blacklisted, especially those lacking any rationale. What are the rationales behind a lot of the "obscure" and unusual blacklisted terms (such as those already mentioned) and whether some of them should remain blacklisted at this moment? AlphaBeta135talk 15:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

    Usually because some specific spammer in the past tried unusually hard to create an article with that title. For the chaos entries the target appears to have been Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jude Enemy. Since that specific SPI has no hits in over a decade it's probably safe to remove, but what's the point?
    The punctuation entry you listed is related to Grawp according to the comment a few entries below it, but in any case two commas in a row is never a valid title so there's no reason to remove it.
    There are definitely some other removables of the first sort, and some more where the blacklisting has failed, i.e there's still a blacklist entry trying to stop the creation of Ryan Hampton (writer), which was created circa 2019 and survived AfD. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Other rules that appear to have failed:
    .*alisha.*panwar.* (Aalisha Panwar)
    .*janhvi.*kapoor.* # Repeated recreation for promotional purposes. Article is salted, but salting tends to inspire work-around articles. (Janhvi Kapoor)
    .*alexa.*curtis.* # (Alexa Curtis (entrepreneur))
    .*sahbabi.* (SahBabii) - I think, as I have no idea what the intended target for this blacklisting is.
    * Pppery * it has begun... 04:51, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
    .*kob.*arad.* # Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Kobi Arad, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kobi Arad (2nd nomination) (Kobi Arad) * Pppery * it has begun... 20:00, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
    .*amuel.*omerville # Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sebi wj (Samuel Somerville, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Failed footballer saltings) * Pppery * it has begun... 21:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Here are more blacklisted terms that I either find a little outdated or not very straightforward:
    • .*BU Rob13.* <casesensitive>
    • .*ge orrg.* <moveonly>
    • .*'H'.* <moveonly>
    • .*mixing.*sailors.*
    • .*untold.*news.*
    • .*impressions.*business.*professional.*
    • *HIGH19\.COM.*
    • .*Brian.*Peppers.*
    • .*Vandalism is Terrorism.*
    AlphaBeta135talk 22:15, 10 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
    BU Rob13 is the name of a user who has since courtesy vanished. It's probably not needed years later, but is harmless.
    I have no idea what the purpose of "ge orrg" is - it dates back to 2008 and can probably be removed, but is also unlikely to appear in a valid title and hence harmless
    'H' is presumably a Grawp remnant of some sort and can probably be removed.
    "Mixing Sailors" is exactly what it says on the tin. Whatever this is has apparently been going on for years, i.e Mixing Sailors (created 2010), Mixing.Sailors (created 2015), Mixing×Sailors (created 2017). There have been evasions like Draft:Mïxing/Saïlors as recently as 2023 so I think it still servers a purpose.
    Untold News was trying to stop spam on a specific organization, deleted as Untold News, Draft:Untold News, etc. I probably would not have blacklisted this with so few deletions, but it still makes sense.
    Impressions Business Professional - see Draft:First Impressions for the Business Professional, Draft:First Impressions for the Business Professional.(BOOK), etc. is apparently for Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dsdgfgsa/Archive, which seems to have died, but unless this website becomes notable there's no point to removing it.
    Brian Peppers - see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 February 21/Brian Peppers. I think its best this mess not be unearthed.
    Vandalism is Terrorism is apparently a title one specific page-move vandal used over a few days in 2008. I doubt it ever did anything useful. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:38, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply