The history of SochiEdit

Dear Ghirlandajo, Thank you for your modifications, but please be informed that you are biased against the real people of Sochi and Circassia and i can't believe a real editor and researcher in Wikipedia can remove the truth not because he is not convinced but because the easiest way to him is to remove instead of search for resources , and i can't understand that you removed my contribution by giving a weak reason!!! What do you mean is not reliable source ???? Please be informed that UNPO stand for Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization not a shop for doing propogandas. Best Regards, ShapsougSochi1864

Portrait of Anna Yekaterina Countess Bestuzheva-Ryumina (1693-1761)Edit

Dear Ghirlandajo,

With respect to a biographical study concerning the celebrated adventurer Friedrich Freiherr von der Trenck I am looking for a portrait of Countess Bestuzheva-Ryumina, the wife of chancellor A. P. Bestuzhev-Riumin. Unfortunately, though a German lady, it seems that there is no portrait of her known in Germany. Can you help?

I am looking to hear from you. If possible, can you send me your answer as eMail to ?

Yours sincerely,

Andreas Pechtl,

7 December 2009

Project UkraineEdit

гуд найт! I saw you wrote some excellent new article about Ukraine! Thanks for that! Would you like to join our project Ukraine (click on advert to learn more). We could really need some new articles about the subjects you wrote your last Ukrainian articles about (there are lots of castles there!)! — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Medieval emporia: Dierkow and BardyEdit

I noticed you removed Dierkow and Bardy from the emporia template. I think they should be re-added. *About Dierkow, there is not much known yet, but this does not automatically make it unimportant or tiny (though there is a possiblity).

If you still think it is a bad idea to put them back in, let me know. Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 11:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Feel free to readd them! By the way, I don't think we should limit the template's scope to the Baltic Sea as you did. --Ghirla-трёп- 11:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Raspberry medal.pngFor creating so many Lviv related articles, I hereby award you the Ukrainian Barnstar of National Merit. Note the raspberry color of the ribbon, the historical color of the Dnieper Cossacks.Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks. I didn't know that the Cossacks liked raspberries :) More Lviv substubs will be added as soon as I have free time in the Russian Wikipedia. Best, Ghirla-трёп- 21:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question about imageEdit

Hi there. I'm doing some work on tagging featured pictures on the English Wikipedia. Coming across this image, I found that you added a {{NoCommons}} tag. This was back in 2006, and the current preference is to put everything on Commons. Do you have a problem with me asking for this image to be deleted from WP or do you still have a pressing reason? Thanks! ~ ωαdεstεr16kiss mei'm Irish 04:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd prefer to keep the local image. Shouldn't we respect each others contributions and attribute them properly. Last year I found it on Main Page of the Wikimedia Commons without any information as to who uploaded and nominated the picture. That was rather disheartening. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Very true. I asked you first b/c I respect the intentions of photographers/image uploaders. That said, this image is actually in the public domain (and especially since it's not your work), you really have no say over what happens to it after you upload it. I'm going to have the local copy deleted, but once that occurs, everything will be the same once I reenter the missing data (if you're not aware, Commons images are called to a local Wikipedia and local wikipedia templates can still be added, such as the FP and POTD templates). Sorry for any confusion, but PD images are not needed on Wikipedia; they belong on Commons so every language Wikipedia can access them. Thanks for understanding. ~ ωαdεstεr16♣TC♣ 21:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
FWIW, I credited you as the original uploader and included much of the info from the local copy to the Commons copy (the caption of the local copy was more complete). Hopefully this doesn't leave a bad taste in your mouth, but it's the right thing to do. ~ ωαdεstεr16♣TC♣ 21:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Johann Hermann von FersenEdit

Interesting move. Do you have a link to attest the German version of his name? I can't seem to find one. Neddyseagoon - talk 10:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See here, for instance. By the way, the text of the Russian article was taken verbatim from the Russian Biographical Dictionary. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Luigi PernierEdit

On T:TDYK]] you said there was little information in English. That doesn't really matter. Are their other-language sources to use? - Mgm|(talk) 12:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, Ghirla! When you get a moment, could you check if this stub is legit? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:08, March 6, 2009 (UTC)

Why, it's a nonsensical joke --Ghirla-трёп- 14:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thought as much. Will prod it now. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:45, March 6, 2009 (UTC)


Hi, me again. I've got another question for you, if you don't mind. In the Vorotynsk article, there is a mention of the village of Spas-on-the-Oka. I was unable to find anything about this village. I also did not quite understand the "which now marks the spot" part—currently, the village (selo) of Vorotynsk is located on the location of the ancient town, and there is a larger (and newer) settlement (posyolok) of Vorotynsk not too far away from it. There is (and, to the best of my knowledge, was) no populated place called "Спас-на-Оке" anywhere in the vicinity. Could you, please, clarify? Where exactly is Savior Vorotynsk Monastery located, do you know? Same goes for New and Old Vorotynsk villages—are these in reference to the selo and posyolok? Thanks again!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:34, March 6, 2009 (UTC)

  • Check map coords here [1]. Spas is referenced on many similar tourist sites, it has postcode 248903 and appears to be administered by the city of Kaluga [2] [3] although nearby Vorotynsk is in Babyninsky rayon. NVO (talk) 18:37, 6 March 2009 (UTC) Correction: the P.O. is in Rosva (Росва on Google maps) which is due north from Vorotynsk, east of Spas. NVO (talk) 18:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Thanks, NVO, it helps, although this still does not resolve everything. In addition to Spas in jurisdiction of Kaluga, there is also another Spas in Babyninsky District; both are listed simply as "Spas", not "Spas-na-Oke" (which is why I ignored them when posting the original note) and none of the two is located on the spot where ancient Vorotynsk stood (the selo of Vorotynsk is in that spot now). Any further ideas?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:49, March 6, 2009 (UTC)
      • Here's the almighty KLADR [4], see fifth line from the bottom of list. It is деревня Спас, Спасский сельский округ города Калуги. "Na Oke" is omitted in all official data; it is actually inside Oka-Ugra salient. Kaluga police has a vacancy for a local cop [5] - wanna apply? NVO (talk) 19:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        • Ah yeah, here's the dream job I always wanted, thanks so much :) Regarding Spas, any clues as to when the "-na-Oke" suffix is/was used? Or is it more of a colloquial name that never made it to the official records?
        • Anyway, based on this discussion, is everyone going to be OK with me butchering Vorotynsk a bit? The monastery sentence should be moved to Rosva (based on the coordinates); "Spas-na-Oke" does not seem to do anything with Vorotynsk except being located fairly close (but definitely not on the spot of old Vorotynsk the town), so its mention can be removed; also removed should be the mentions of New and Old Vorotynsk (which are not officially called that). Sounds good so far? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:09, March 6, 2009 (UTC)
        • By the way, my 1859 book on inhabited localities of Peremyshlsky Uyezd of Kaluga Governorate lists the selo of Spas (near the Ugra and Oka Rivers) as "Spas or Spasskoye", so the "-na-Oke" designation must be relatively recent.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:14, March 6, 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Stroganov PalaceEdit

Updated DYK query On 13 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stroganov Palace, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Thanks for the nom! Royalbroil 04:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My user spaceEdit

I had noticed you were returned to us, is one allowed to say welcome back? before fiddling with my Versailles, you should go and take a good look at Winter Palace and make some changes there, I needed you a few month ago writing that - you should have been writing it! - Welcome back :-) Giano (talk) 21:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, my friend, but I still spend most of my time in Russian Wikipedia. My contributions in English are limited to fixing some pesky errors, and I would start an occasional sub-stub every once in a while. --Ghirla-трёп- 22:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Luigi PernierEdit

Updated DYK query On 17 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Luigi Pernier, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 04:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Order of GloryEdit

Hi there, Andrei! Thanx for fixing the picture of the Order of Glory on my user page! Some dude erased a while back claiming it to be a copyvio or something like that :). How are you these days? Will you ever return to serious editing in English Wikipedia? Drop me a line. KNewman (talk) 08:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Beregovaya compressor stationEdit

Hi, Ghirla. Could you help with the exact location of the Beregovaya compressor station? Some sources says that it is located in Arkhipo-Osipovka, and most of the sources says that at Dzhubga, e.g. this map of gas pipelines. By my understanding it is located in west from Dzhubga and in east from Arkhipo-Osipovka, and definitely there is only one compressor station, not two. Do you knew any reliable source about the location? Beagel (talk) 07:19, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The map is in error. The Beregovaya (literally, "coastal") station, launched in November 2005 as part of the Blue Stream network, is situated in the Drovyanaya Shchel' gorge near Arkhipo-Osipovka, Gelendzhik District at an elevation of 235 meters.[6][7][8] Some pictures are available here. I suspect there will be another compressor station built in Dzhubga as part of the South Stream project. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. It should be the same compressor station (probably expanded) for the South Stream. There is only one incoming pipeline, and it is not logical that the compressor station for the South Stream would be located east from the Blue Stream pipeline. Beagel (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Easter GreetingsEdit

Христос воскрес! Хрыстос уваскрос! Alleluia, Christ is risen! Kristus is uppeston!--Paul Pieniezny (talk) 09:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Воистину воскресе! --Ghirla-трёп- 10:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, Ghirla! I almost started to move Avdotia Istomina to "Yevdokiya" when I noticed that it was you who created the article originally (and you normally know what you are doing :)). Could you, please, clarify, why the title says "Avdotia" when her actual name is "Евдокия"? I do not immediately see it. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:48, April 23, 2009 (UTC)

Replied here --Ghirla-трёп- 12:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not sure why, but I followed-up there as well :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:22, April 29, 2009 (UTC)

Portrait of a Lady known as Smeralda BandinelliEdit

Привет, я тут случайно написала статью в англовики (со мной такое первый раз, обычно токо правлю). Сделай пожалуйста одолжение, посмотри грамматику, а то у меня с ней всегда оч. плохо было 0_0 --Shakko (talk) 15:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Picture available for Uvs-NuurEdit

Obsolete due to mistaken image description. from German wikipedia. -- (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Good image of the church, Andrej. It's a pleasure to see your name at English Wikipedia.--Wetman (talk) 12:14, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you, my friend. I'm pleased to see your name too. Can you help me in identifying this image? --Ghirla-трёп- 19:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would it be the spiral staircase scala a chiocciola in a wing of Palazzo Contrari Boncompagni, Vignola , built by conte Ercole Contrari the elder, allegedly to designs by Jacopo Barozzi da Vignola?
I was tempted to use it for illustrating the Vignola article, but, since the attribution to him is by no means certain, should we let it rest on commons in relative obsurity? --Ghirla-трёп- 08:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your inputs to the Shamordino Convent and other articlesEdit

Hey Andrei, I've noticed you've been editing some of the Wikipedia articles I earlier uploaded images to. Many of the images have been deleted for no apparent reason. I will upload them again. If you don't like some images you can always move them to a gallery.

Please, move Shamordino Monastery to Shamordino Convent (I tried but couldn't do this). This is a community of nuns. Denghu (talk)

Only a sysop can move this article. You'd better upload your pictures to Wikimedia Commons, so that any wikipedia could use them when needed. --Ghirla-трёп- 08:53, 3 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK. Could you please contact a sysop on that? (I actually don't know who that is :-)) Denghu (talk)

Hey there!Edit

Nice to see you, Ghirla! Bishonen | talk 07:51, 3 May 2009 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Thank you, Bish. It's great to know that you are still around! --Ghirla-трёп- 08:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for The Death of ProcrisEdit

Updated DYK query On May 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Death of Procris, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Shubinator (talk) 01:59, 10 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Philippa of HainaultEdit

Hello Ghirlando. As regards, Philippa of Hainault, I believe that Kuthen of the Kumens's wife was of the Galitzine family. Halicz is just another version of her name as is Galicie. Her first name is a mystery.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There's some mistake on the part of amateur researchers cited in the article. There is no record of Kotyan's wife, but a medieval Russian chronicle names several of his sons-in-law, including Mstislav Mstislavich, Prince of Halych/Galicia (in connection with the Battle of Kalka in which they both took part). In other words, it's Kotyan's daughter rather than wife who may be described as "N of Galicia". --Ghirla-трёп- 18:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I believe you may be right, however his wife was most likely of the Halych family as well. Until that can be proved, I'll remove the reference to Kuthen's wife from the Philippa of Hainault article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Mission accomplished. It now reads that Elizabeth was the daughter of Kuthen only, no mention of her mother. Thank you for drawing my attention to this error (which was made by me). Hopefully we'll discover who mothered Kuthen's children.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fine. --Ghirla-трёп- 06:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Borki train disasterEdit

Updated DYK query On 15 May, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Borki train disaster, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
JamieS93 18:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heritage RegistersEdit

Please take a look at my inquiry at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russia#Lost_in_translation_..._Heritage_registers - I'm kinda stuck with reproducing kanzelyarit in English. P.S. Thanks for the dyk nom. NVO (talk) 07:50, 16 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I'm puzzled by this [9]. Are you under the impression that I'm active on IRC? William M. Connolley (talk) 11:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm under impression that your integrity as a sysop has been steadily eroding for about three years. Why you behave the way you do is not for me to say. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:57, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I disagree with your first assertion, of course. But you have not answered my question. You appear to be associating me with IRC, and in this you are incorrect. If you don't care about being wrong, then say so and I won't trouble you any further. If you do care about being wrong (and I would rather hope you did) I'm interested in what you meant William M. Connolley (talk) 12:04, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ghirlandajo merely mentioned this editor as an example of the atmosphere of intimidation, which appears to be demonstrated perfectly well right here. The association with IRC is a red herring.--Wetman (talk) 15:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right on spot, Wetman. --Ghirla-трёп- 15:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm afraid I'm no wiser about how to interpret your original statement. Whilst clearly demonstrating ill-will towards me, it is otherwise incoherent. However, it is now clear you realise I'm not active on IRC, so some progress has been made William M. Connolley (talk) 18:13, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Torment of Saint Anthony (Michelangelo)Edit

Template:Michelangelo appears at the bottom of The Torment of Saint Anthony (Michelangelo). It has a link to List of works by Michelangelo at the bottom of it. I've updated the list to include this painting. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 15:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nice --Ghirla-трёп- 16:12, 23 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Back to heritage registersEdit

What, in your opinion, should appear in Russian register of cultural register? I put together a draft, please let me know if anything significant is missing. I will definitely expand/clarify on legal fubar story; what else? NVO (talk) 05:52, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Gonzaga CameoEdit

Updated DYK query On May 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gonzaga Cameo, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
JamieS93 08:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Adjectives in Extreme North (Russia)Edit

Hi Ghirlandajo, I'm not overly concerned about this, but I saw your change to Extreme North (Russia), and was wondering if the adjectives are actually particularly useful; they're not exactly quantifiable. Would it not be more useful (and Encyclopedic) to simply detail the aspects which you're attempting to describe via adjectives? And apologies if this mixes up the formatting you have on this page - I'll try to correct it if that happens. Random name (talk) 16:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for GorgoneionEdit

Updated DYK query On May 28, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gorgoneion, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Dravecky (talk) 08:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Review/copyedit for Vincenzo BrennaEdit

Andrey, please take a look - you might have better sources on the subject. Most of the article is based on Lanceray's book from 1930s; I don't have specific modern sources but Shvidkovsky provides completely different dates (and frequently different attributions, but it was expected). Regards, NVO (talk) 17:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for House of LorraineEdit

Updated DYK query On June 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article House of Lorraine, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Giants27 21:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors AssociationEdit

The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Please put all discussion here.Peter Damian (talk) 10:26, 13 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

GA Reassessment of Erast FandorinEdit

I am conducting a reassessment as part of the GA sweeps process. I have found come concerns which need addressing if this article is to keep its GA status, which may be found at Talk:Erast Fandorin/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Askold and DirEdit

Fringe theory? What are talking about? The whole Russian history is the fringe theory. Why are parimary chronicles lay the base of Russian history? Book of Veles is being denied by the Russian church. Of course, because that church primary mission to destroy our history, the Slavic history. The primary chronicles were written by that church to come up with the new history. Why is that there are no prior historical records exist until those chronicles? Are we to believe that our ancestors were that stupid that they left us no historical records? Or, maybe, were they eliminated? I believe so. Book of Veles exists and it is the only surviving record of our ancient history. Why do we want to deny it? What would be the reason to come up with what the church believes to be not true? Do not forget what was happening at the times when the Rus was converted into Christianity. All Slavic religion was eradicated. Why? Because they did not know how to believe? :) What a crack! No wonder that the church now wants to get rid of Book of Veles. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

GA reassessment of CanalettoEdit

I have conducted a review of this article which has a large number of issues which need attention. I have delisted it. The reassessment is at Talk:Canaletto/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Otto von Habsburg's Patrilineal DescentEdit

Why do you state that Otto von Habsburg's patrilineal descent is faked? It was presented by Portuguese Genealogists on Raízes & Memórias" publication, Nr. 21 - December 2005, pgs. 11 to 20. Are you saying Portuguese Genealogists and official publications in Portugal aren't credible? Dgarq (talk) 17:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually, the two first names are not the right ones according to the forementioned publication. I'll proceed and correct them. Dgarq (talk) 15:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Permission for use an imageEdit

Hello, I'm Bagratun from the Spanish wikipedia. I ask you to allow me to use the image File:Hutyn.jpg to illustrate the article in Spanish. I think is a really good photograph. Thank's for your response either is positive or negative. Greetings, Bagratun. --Bagratun (talk) 00:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'd like to, but the image is not mine. It comes from the website listed on the page. --Ghirla-трёп- 06:59, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fantastic workEdit

Wow, very nice work on all the articles youve helped create/expand! Omegastar (talk) 09:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You were discussedEdit

Here: [10] I just came to let you know something is going on about your not-loved arbcom:)) Regards, FeelSunny (talk) 23:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Ghirlandajo. I'm posting to let you know that your name has been mentioned on a list of potential candidates for adminship on the talk page for RfA's here. If you are interested in running, or if you would like to make any comments, feel free to join the discussion. decltype (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Привет. Could you please review/fix/advise on Vasili Bazhenov, Alexander Kokorinov (there were your creations), Pietro Gonzaga, Jean-François Thomas de Thomon, Mikhail Matyushin, perhaps Maly Theatre (Moscow) too. NVO (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Important! - Round up what few ballet enthusiasts you know on Wikipedia and get them to vote on the proposed merging of the Ondine articles that would see the article about Frederick Ashton's production of the actual ballet, being merged into one about the music.

See here: - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music#Straw_Poll

And please vote to oppose this change, as this music would not have been written had it not been for Ashton's ballet!!!

Thank You

Crazy-dancing (talk) 20:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Flore et ZéphireEdit

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Shouldn't this at least be in plural? The article, after all, is about a family/house, not about a standalone last name?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:24, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Cf Czartoryski, Sapieha, Rohan (family), etc. I'd leave the title as it is. --Ghirla-трёп- 15:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd say those are bad choices, too, but whatever. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:50, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

FPC nominationEdit

Hi Ghirlandajo. I've nominated File:Whitehousenight.jpg, an image uploaded by you, for featured picture status. Feel free to comment on the nomination at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/White House at Night. --KFP (talk | contribs) 22:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The 50 DYK Nomination MedalEdit

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Congratulations on passing the milestone of 50 DYK nominations. Good work! Binksternet (talk) 17:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stalinist voluntarismEdit

In the article on the Rybinsk Reservoir there is a line which appears to date from an edit you made in 2005: As the time goes by, however, it has been increasingly viewed as a typical sample of Stalinist voluntarism. Shortly after you linked Stalinist to Joseph Stalin, but neither on that page nor on Stalinism can I find references to "voluntarism". Voluntarism itself is a disambiguation page. The net result is that I'm not sure what the reservoir is supposed to be an example of. Can you clarify? (talk) 18:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk: Hryhorii SkovorodaEdit

Could you please look at this? It`s incredible. --Kuiavian (talk) 08:13, 12 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk:Hryhorii Skovoroda. Can I expect any support from your side? --Antoni Chojnacki (talk) 22:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Title change for St.George BankEdit

Hi. I have placed a query at St. George Bank as to why you moved it from St.George Bank. Nurg (talk) 02:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

One for youEdit

[11] this is more your department than mine.  Giano  18:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Aleksey vs. Alexei (Fyodorov)Edit

Greetings, Ghirla! I noted in past edits of the Aleksey Fyodorov page you favor this as the more accepted spelling of his surname, yet the page text uses "Alexei" throughout. Wouldn't consistency be appropriate? (I only know the editing rule regarding AE vs. BE in the English-language WP, that a page remains as initially written in this regard.) I need to know this for the list of key words I maintain for our archives. What do you advise? -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 06:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think Alexei should be changed to Aleksey wherever possible. Best regards. --Ghirla-трёп- 06:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would you say this is a rule or guideline particularly in transliterating from the Ukrainian, or in general from all Cyrillic-alphabet languages? (N.B. none of which I've studied; I'm just at the stage of mastering the letters.) -- Deborahjay (talk) 06:49, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This applies to Russian names. The Ukrainian counterpart to "Aleksey" is "Oleksiy". --Ghirla-трёп- 06:52, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Merge of the Great Northern Expedition and the Second Kamchatka ExpeditionEdit

Hi, Ghirlandajo! I've proposed this merge and then noticed that once you had proposed the same thing. I think you might be interested in the matter, so please watch out for the possible discussion (there have been no replies yet, but may be some will appear). Greyhood (talk) 17:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Karl Wenig's paintingEdit

Hey mate! Among many interesting pics you've uploaded, is also the picture Last minutes of False Dmitriy I by Karl Wenig (File:Karl_wenig_1879.jpg). Sometime ago, someone else uploaded a better (no offence!) copy of the same file (File:Last_minutes_of_False_Dmitry.jpg) . So, um, I was thinking about deleting 'your' picture, but it requires orphaning, i. e. deleting it from your uploads gallery. I didn't want to be rude and just mess with it, but if you have nothing against, could you please erase this pic from your gallery, so it can be deleted? - ArCgon (talk) 17:55, 18 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I suppose the vanity page should be deleted. It's of no use anymore. --Ghirla-трёп- 14:48, 19 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


thanks for moving Pavel Dashkov, i was just filling the red link from frs, those english are sloppy with the foreign nobility. but what about Countess Marianne Bernadotte of Wisborg where someone undid my move the same way? maybe it should be Countess Marianne Bernadotte of Wisborg Pohick2 (talk) 17:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Perhaps Marianne Lindberg? Anyway, the word "countess" is redundant in the title. --Ghirla-трёп- 05:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Categories for discussion/Log/2010 July 13#Category:New York City Ballet repertory by seasonEdit

May I call your attention to a proposal at Categories for discussion/Log/2010 July 13 to delete Category:New York City Ballet repertory by season? — Robert Greer (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Gomel PalaceEdit

RlevseTalk 06:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi Ghirla, great to see you! Bishonen | talk 20:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Thank you, dear Bish! I'm also glad to see you again. --Ghirla-трёп- 22:00, 16 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nice to see you here. Anyway, have you ever heard of this guy? I am already sorry that I asked :-( -- Petri Krohn (talk) 09:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Smolensky CemeteryEdit

RlevseTalk 06:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of Baroque residencesEdit

Great work on the List of Baroque residences - it's looking great. I've been trying to fix some of the redlinks in various articles for some of the Italian palaces - Ducal Palace of Modena and Palazzo Estense so far - which happen to link from articles I've been working on as part of my Italian noble families mini-project. Please let me know if there are any other redlinks you would like me to assist with. Regards, Stalwart111 (talk) 07:03, 23 July 2010 (UTC).Reply[reply]

Thank you. I'm thinking about de:Weimarer Stadtschloss and Prague Cathedral of St. Nicholas. Is Germany beyond your scope? We also need a separate category for pleasure palaces. --Ghirla-трёп- 07:43, 23 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hey Ghirlandaj. I'm hoping to expand Barge Haulers on the Volga in the next few weeks or so, but sources in English are few and far between; I have some stored up, but would needed help from a VA native speaker to properly do service. It is has been a collaboration with Johnbod, and he suggested you, somebody I've seen about a fair amount on art pages. So I suppose this is a cap in hand request. No worries if you are preoccupied. Best. Ceoil (talk) 22:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That's one painting (and painter) I really hate! But I will add the page to my watchlist. If you need to translate any specific text, let me know. --Ghirla-трёп- 14:25, 25 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well thank you very much for the translations, they will add great dept and scope to the page. I will start adding, but might need to verify page numbers etc with you at some stage. Pity to hear that you are Repin-phobic but can understand that too! Best. Ceoil (talk) 17:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I do, actually. There are also stanitsas which are even bigger than that (and also without articles). If you think any of those need to be created urgently and you don't have time to do it, by all means let me know—I can write a fairly decent stub (and no, it's not going to be just the dry stats, unless that's all you need). Also, what connection does this have to "novoyaz" you mentioned in the edit summary? I don't understand. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 27, 2010; 21:10 (UTC)

Lake PeipusEdit

Before I revert you there, could you please read the references [1-3] of this version and explain your changes. No, Britannica is not an authority on hydrology. Yes, Chudsko-Pskovskoe is a possibility, but in any case, this has to be discussed at the talk page first, and again, how about refs [1-3]? Materialscientist (talk) 06:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Britannica is an authority on everything. It's up to you to prove that it's not reliable. This is the best known general encyclopaedia reflecting the views of the scientific mainstream. Besides, I don't see a point in following hydrologists on the issue. If anyone, we should consult historians/linguists. --Ghirla-трёп- 06:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is a discussion for the talk page of the article. In short, Peipus is a historical name, which was the major one, but not anymore. By area, the lakes (there are three of them, not one) are more in Russia, but the English literature calls them more by Estonian name (try searching any source, Google Books, Google, whatever, restricting to English language results). Being bold is good, but to a certain extent. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 06:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your reply did nothing to address my concerns. From what I can see, the coverage of Russian lakes/rivers in the English segment of Wikipedia is a joke. There are no pages on many major rivers (check the number of interwiki links in ru:Демьянка (река) or ru:Курейка (река), the former being one of Asia's longest rivers). And the existing pages lack in content: e.g., Don River (Russia), with its ridiculously Anglo-centric title. All right, why should I care. --Ghirla-трёп- 07:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, that what I was doing these weeks - expanding those articles lake/river/sea articles, but stopped for now, just before Don, and any help is welcome. As to Peipus, there are wikipedia naming policies and conventions, and it seems to me after your reply that this has to be decided at the talk page, and you are welcome to bring your calm thoughts .. Materialscientist (talk) 07:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Thanks for the tip. I think Don River (Russia) should go to Don. Or maybe we should just move Thames to Thames River (England) :-) -- Petri Krohn (talk) 16:59, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is little we can do about it. Alas. --Ghirla-трёп- 20:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Looks like I only made things worse! -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:53, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Barge haulersEdit

Please note that I've moved your page from "Barge Haulers on the Volga/Temp" to User:Ghirlandajo/Barge Haulers on the Volga. Temp pages should be in user sandbox space, not in article space. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 02:01, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Defunct towns and former citiesEdit

Nope, we definitely don't need to have two of them. Re-organizing the whole defunct/former/abolished/destroyed mess is one of the projects on my to-do list, but if you have an inclination to sort them out, please do so by all means, because I don't have any plans to start working on this any time soon. Help would most certainly be appreciated. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 10, 2010; 21:01 (UTC)

Hunyad CastleEdit

Hunyad castle is not a gothic revival, it was a precise renovation of an erased Gothic-Renaissance castle.
The ruins of the castle in 1865

Editors in Samara?Edit

Hey Ghirla, do you know of any editors in Samara who can help out with photos as required at User:Russavia/Required_photos#Samara. If you can think of anyone would you mind pointing them out to me, or perhaps point them to that page? Cheers, --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 22:35, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Most of them will be deleted anyways. I left a note on the talk pages of Atgnclk and Роман Янковский from ru:Категория:Википедия:Участники из Самары. The Samara wikipedians are not very active, though. --Ghirla-трёп- 06:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey Ghirla, some of them will be [[:Commons:Template:PD-Rus-Empire}} due to them being built before November 1917, and the rest will likely be Commons:Template:PD-Russia-2008 due to the buildings being built before the 1943 cut off date - the embassies were relocated to Samara in 1941. So I don't think we will hit any snags in that regard. Thanks for posting the messages, I appreciate it; perhaps I will get an answer or two :) Cheers, --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 12:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Feel free to leave a message on the talk page, file an RM, or move it back. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); August 20, 2010; 14:24 (UTC)


I see your point, and personally, I would find that interesting to read. But it would be difficult: the article has a section of "Salons outside of France", where the nations outside of France are given a summary - such as the first salons, the most notable salon-holders and a few words about the importance and characteristics given to the phenomena in each country. There, of course, Russia should be included as well. To give Russia its own section would, therefore, make it necessary to give each nation its own section. France is already treated specially, but that is of course because it is the original country of the phenomena. My suggestion is therefore, that Russia is either included in the "Salons outside of France"-section, or, if it is given its own section, that each nation mentioned in the "Salons outside of France"-section is given its own chapter under this title, where Russia, of course, is one. Individual Salon-holders al deserve their own articles. Good luck! --Aciram (talk) 12:55, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not every paragraph in a Wikipedia article needs a boldface title. There is surely room at Salon (gathering) for a more complete discussion of the role of salons in Russia.--Wetman (talk) 17:25, 21 August 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of regional characteristics of European cathedral architecture‎Edit

Found your comment. As you have probably observed, this article has recently been calvbed off another article. It originally pertained directly to Western Europe, but no longer does.

I have been working on the other article first, and making headway, but have been interrupted by some more pressing personal matters. I will get around to fixing this present article soon I hope, by including regional characteristics from many other countries in a fuller way. Meanwhile, can you give some thought as to which characteristics and photos should be included for Russia etc? Amandajm (talk) 07:52, 5 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ivan IVEdit

Please revert your edit. I can't see, how 2 non-vague historical evidences may not suffice:

  1. Флоря Б. Н. Иван Грозный
  2. Генрих Штаден. Записки о Московии

for proof please read russian wiki [12] (section "Отношения с царём") about his favourite Soshial (talk) 15:12, 5 September 2010 (UTC) On the third day of your silence I will revert your edit. Thx for understanding. Soshial (talk) 06:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


What was your reference on Belsky family (Gediminid)? I have a ref for most of the stuff, but not all details. BTW, you should add a ref to Shuisky too.

Will see what I can do on Patrikas, but I do not think I have good sources. Renata (talk) 06:55, 6 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Luigi Premazzi Picture in Tsarskoe seloEdit

Hi Ghirladajo,

I was wondering how you obtained the following image: used in the article Tsarskoe Selo. My wife has written a book on Russian history of the period that that painting is from, and she wants to use this reproduction as the picture for the cover of the book. However the publisher requires permission from the photographer. Do you happen to know who that might be? I would appreciate any information you could provide. I can be also reached at the Thanks. Alex

I believe the painting was scanned by the Hermitage Museum.[13] Try searching for "Premazzi" on their website. --Ghirla-трёп- 19:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have uploaded a higher resolution version of the image and added a link to the source page. State Hermitage Museum would have even better versions of this, but most likely you would have to pay to get access. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 15:29, 12 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Russia GA reassessmentEdit

An article that you have been involved in editing, Russia has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments here . If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Philipmj24 (talk) 03:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Please do not use "stub" as an excuse for removing information from an article. Our stubs are under development, and if some information appears "too detailed" for a stub, well, that's just editors expanding the article out of stub status - and that's great! Rklawton (talk) 12:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moving onEdit

Здраствуйте. I've already indicated my desire elsewhere, in a number of venues, to move on from past conflicts. I trust you will see clear the path to same. Let's not re-litigate the past. Best, PЄTЄRS J VЄСRUМВАTALK 14:19, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seconded. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Babolovo PalaceEdit

Great job on the Babolovo Palace. It's precisely these kinds of articles that make Wikipedia the excellent source that it is. Had not heard of the palace previously. DYK, maybe? Dr. Dan (talk) 15:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hopefully this should work? I still think that there are way too many pictures of churches for one article, but oh well. Is there nothing else in the city of interest?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); September 24, 2010; 17:04 (UTC)


Listen, please, do not be judgmental seeing me as some anti-Russian or whatever. I am, certainly, not that. The information about the Vladimir Principality is too vague. There is really no historical development on how it actually appeared and why until Yuri Dolgoruki. There is also no clear mentioning that Andrei Bogolyubsky changed the Vladimir Principality into the Grand Principality. Little or no information is on the conflicts that took place in the Northeastern Rus. The information that I posted is drawn from other articles and mostly based on the Russian version as well. Would it be possible instead of just purging my edits at least let me know that they need to be revised? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


A number of moves??? I may recall one or two where I got a distinct impression that you didn't like them, but a "number"? 90% of the moves I did since August were those of soccer players; somehow I don't think that's what you've got a problem with? Care to elaborate? I always appreciate feedback, even from an old grump like you. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 6, 2010; 14:10 (UTC)

I refer to your way of moving our articles about Russian towns to the most monstrous title imaginable, e.g., Vereshchagino, Vereshchaginsky District, Perm Krai, Usolye, Usolsky District, Perm Krai, Otradnoye, Kirovsky District, Leningrad Oblast, Chernushka, Chernushinsky District, Perm Krai, etc. As if a town of 35000 people were on the same level of prominence as a village of ten people (see Chernushka, for instance). Such moves defy common sense and everything that is important when naming articles (namely, conciseness, naturalness, and so on). --Ghirla-трёп- 07:14, 7 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ghirla, this is not the Russian Wikipedia. To our average reader, an obscure town in Russia is not much different from an obscure village—it's not like we are equating, say, the village of Moskva in Kirov Oblast with the capital of Russia. The naming is in full compliance with our naming guidelines, and our guidelines are, of course, already the epitome of "common sense" and "naturalness" (OK, I'm pulling your leg here somewhat, but at least that's their intent). If you have a problem with a particular guideline, you can always file an RfC, and if you have a problem with how a guideline is being applied, you can always submit a move request. If you have reasonable concerns, I'll be the last person to ignore them. Why you choose instead to bitch about how everything sucks and only you can save the day is frankly beyond me. No offense, but it's not easy to take your opinion seriously when you start blabbering about a completely unrelated "problem" in a random venue.
At any rate, the four moves you've found (one of which isn't even by me) are a far cry from "we need to run a bot to revert all that". Cut out the panic, will ya? Even the statistics don't corroborate you theory that these moves are somehow "damaging". Chernushka, for example, was moved on August 20. It was getting on average around ten hits a day prior to being moved, and it keeps getting about the same number of hits after being moved. Apparently, the article isn't as hard to find as you would lead us to believe. And Usolye, Usolsky District, Perm Krai is getting more daily hits now than before the move (around 10 vs. ~2-5 before the move). Hmmm...—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 7, 2010; 14:33 (UTC)
Those statistics are broken, nobody knows how they count hits. Why not take a cue from the Russian Wikipedia which at least has pages on those villages (in English Wikipedia, they are likely to remain red-linked for the next 15 or 30 years). If it is ru:Верещагино for Russians, I don't see why it should be so complicated for foreigners. --Ghirla-трёп- 15:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not sure where you got the idea that the stats are "broken" and that "nobody knows how they work", but broken or not, they are at least consistent. The numbers themselves may be off, but the trends they show are pretty accurate (DYKs, major re-writes, and moves always show a spike in activity, while forgotten and abandoned articles show a steady small stream of hits over time with no aberrations). Not that it matters. What matters is the guidelines which we (not ru_wiki) have in place. In case you haven't noticed, I am not the one in charge of writing the guidelines; I'm just a poor peasant stuck with having to enforce them (including those where lunacy is apparent). In this case, I don't even have a problem with the applicable guidelines, so why should I be the one to "take a cue" and waste my time trying to think up something better to replace them with? Like I said in the past, if you have a problem with the way things are done, you either find RfC thataway, or simply live with the parts of the system you don't like. Just don't shoot the messengers.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 7, 2010; 16:01 (UTC)

"Russian Princes"Edit

Wondering if you have an opinion on what should be done with this? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 20, 2010; 13:30 (UTC)

Dunno. It's full of odd transliterations and factual mistakes. Наспех сляпанная поделка. --Ghirla-трёп- 13:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I can see that. But is there anything salvageable? Or anything it can be redirected/merged to?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 20, 2010; 14:02 (UTC)

Undiscussed page move of Muhajirism (Caucasus)Edit

Please don't do this without discussion. The best name for this article is already under discussion at Talk:Muhajir_(Caucasus)#Rename_to_Circassian_Genocide. It helps no-one if a number of different editors move it back and forth without agreement beforehand. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I have read that there was a bodyguard or some such institution in medieval Russia that was composed of very tall, young men, carrying an axe. They supposedly wore white, and the appearance of their height was increased by wearing tall hats. One often sees them in operatic and theatrical productions from time to time. Were these the Rynda, or was there also some other group that fits this description? The English article is paltry and the Russian article was not much help. Are you familiar with the subject at all? Thanks. Dr. Dan (talk) 20:33, 25 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think you are right. I will probably add some details to Rynda. --Ghirla-трёп- 05:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Russian paintersEdit

I'd like to draw your attention to the thread here, about the editing activities of Leningradartist (talk · contribs). Any comments or advice relating to same would be mush appreciated. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 08:32, 26 November 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photos from RussiaEdit

hi ghirla, at begin wikilink User:Russavia/Required photos end wikilink i have compiled a long list of photos that i am needing for numerous articles i have under development and future articles i will be working on. Do you know of anyone who can help with any of the photos, especially those i need from russia. If u could put me in touch with anyone, or conversely them with me, i would be most appreciative. Cheers, russavia

Golden Eagle AwardsEdit

hello, I would like to know where you found that Nikita Mihalkov institued the Golden Eagle Awards. Please give me a reference for that. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Death of Ordu KhanEdit

Hello, I see that in your revision of the article about Orda Khan there's dates 1204 (birth) and 1280 (+). This data was translated to all the existent articles in others languages, less Russian (and catalan because I'm trying to stablish it). Can you check if is the correct date?; the successor Qun Quran already deceased in 1280 but reigned 1251-1280, while Orda reigned 1226 (in fact not before 1227 and surely from 1229) to 1251. If is not, and must be c. 1251, please correct all the wikipedies that copied the wrong date. Many thanks. -- (talk) 18:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


[14] This is something you may know about and have an opinion on. Giacomo Returned 21:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re: Speak, MemoryEdit

Hi, I noted that you removed the caption of the image of the estate of Rozhdestveno that indicated that "Nabokov inherited the Rastelli- designed estate "Rozhestveno" in 1916." The picture had been taken by User:Alexey Lavrov attesting that it was VN's house, and VN describes (p72) that he inherited the house in 1916, upon the death of his uncle Ruka. Can you please explain where you see the problem with the caption that you had to remove it? Ekem (talk) 02:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As you noticed there is now a Rozhdestveno Memorial Estate site in the English WP; it would be helpful if you could include a comment about the building, namely when it was built, who the architect was, and - if this is not known, as claimed in the French WP - to say so (preferably with a reference). Ekem (talk) 15:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lev BergEdit

You might want to check out Lev Berg, although you may already have it on your watchlist.

I'm not entirely happy with how things are proceeding, although I think they will get sorted out. See User talk:Liveintheforests#Leo S. Berg for some of the background.

I am assuming that Joe will agree with me and make sure some of the material recently removed is restored.

Assuming that happens, I have some question about the material which I believe you added.

You added the sentence:

Among his pioneering monographs on climatology were "Climate and Life" (1922) and "Foundations of Climatology" (1928).

I wonder if "Foundations of Climatology" is a typo. There is such a work, but by someone else. Berg wrote "Principles of climatology", and I'm wondering if you meant to say that.

I don't know who added the list of works, but one is "Principles of climatology" (1926). However, this search suggests it was 1938, not 1926. Do you concur?

BTW, 175K edits? Quite impressive. Quite.--SPhilbrickT 17:36, 22 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Talk:Kirill EskovEdit

In the past, you commented on his name there. The issue is back. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Princess of the TideEdit

Can you identify the source of the translation? I am needing to know that the translation is in the public domain to be able to transfer it to Wikisource, and there is no information available to make the determination. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, Ghirlandajo. Please have a look at this proposal “Global blocks and bans.” If you have a long block log in the English Wikipedia, you will be able to be blocked or banned in the Russian and any other Wikipedia as well when this proposal is approved. And vice versa. Take my best wishes. --Psychiatrick (talk) 07:26, 16 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cafe Gurzuf (painting)Edit

Created 16/10/2011. Face-smile.svg Yours --Borealis55 (talk) 11:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Could you delete it? Yours --Borealis55 (talk) 14:13, 25 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why should we bother? --Ghirla-трёп- 07:55, 26 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Dear Andrey,

I hope we can communicate in Russian,

Я была бы Вам весьма признательна, если бы Вы помогли мне точнее идентифицировать источник, ссылку на который Вы разместили.

Я не нашла внятных упоминаний об издании, которое называлось бы Central Asian Journal. Эту ссылку (и сам абзац) Вы добавили в статью Suyab (, впервые она появилась в этой редакции

Forte A. An Ancient Chinese Monastery Excavated in Kirgizia // Central Asian Journal, 1994. Volume 38. № 1. Pages 41-57.

Фрагмент издания, упомянутого Вами, необходим мне для завершения популярной книжки, посвященной Суябу. Я гарантирую указание Вашего имени (если Вы того пожелаете) в разделе Acknowledgements. (talk) 05:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A barnstar for you!Edit

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
tnx for contribution to Suyab
Gkurmanova (talk) 03:38, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you. --Ghirla-трёп- 17:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Polen, Polen über AllesEdit

I know this may be the worst possible place to post an anti-Polish rant, but here I am anyway. Anyone is free to move this discussion to a more appropriate place. My question is this: is it me who is suffering from polofobia, or does Wikipedia have some kind of a pro-Polish bias?

I started off studying the list of largest domes of its time. On the list I see that Jahrhunderthalle was built in Wrocław, Poland in by "Deutsches Reich Inc." or whatever. Studying the article Wrocław I learn that the town has perpetually been Polish from times immemorial.

After some work on File:Wrocław Collage.png I end up reading the article on Lwów. The second sentence of the article tells me that Poles are (or were) main ethnicity of the city. Further down I understand that a terrible wrong was done to Poland in 1991 when Lwów was not returned to Polish sovereignty after the end of the second Soviet occupation.

To sum up, Wrocław is totally dismissive of the existence of Breslau, while Lviv reads like a irredentist rant. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 16:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Что значит, не используется, а ссылки? Arsania — это русское прочтение, ибо в русском нет звука [θ], поэтому либо «с», либо «т». И вы куда-то "y" потеряли, получился греко-латинский суффикс -ia, которого в арабском нет.--Luboslov Yezykin (talk) 16:40, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Главное, какой вариант предпочитают академические источники на английском. --Ghirla-трёп- 17:16, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Arsania не предпочтительнее, вы сами можете убедиться по поиску в ГуглКнигах, там это может быть вообще всё что угодно, включая имя личное и реку в Урарту. И как вы себе представляете, чтобы они арабское слово именно так транслитерировали? У них есть своя система транслитерации, чаще более точная, чем кириллическая, им не нужно для этого обращаться к русскоязычной литературе. В итоге получается, что мы арабское слово транслитерируем через кириллическое посредство, ну не бред? Википедия здесь пока английская. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Arabic. --Luboslov Yezykin (talk) 09:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, убедили. --Ghirla-трёп- 13:43, 9 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]



Colleague, even if this name is a "modern myth", it is part of "Rurikology", so to say. I google books it may be found in the range of ~150 years in several languages. I think this issue deserves explanation in wikipedia, otherwise it continue to pop up thanks to well-meaning, but less educated people. So, can you explain, in Rurik article, how it is "Tatischeff stuff" and all? Lom Konkreta (talk) 17:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ефанда. Ингорь. Имел Рюрик несколько жен, но более всех любил Ефанду, дочерь князя урманского, и когда та родила сына Ингоря, ей обещанный при море град с Ижорою в вено дал.

Of course, I could have done some research myself, but I guess you can do it better. Lom Konkreta (talk) 17:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The page was heavily vandalised at some point after I had lost interest in English Wikipedia. I reinstated a version of the page last edited by me 5 years ago. P.S. Nobody cares about such matters here. Every article on Russia's early history steadily comes to ruin. --Ghirla-трёп- 19:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dasha SevastopolskayaEdit

I wonder, would you be at all interested in correcting the (no doubt many but inadvertent) mistakes in this new article on an interesting person? I would be very grateful for any comments you might have. -- Ferma (talk) 21:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've tweaked it a little. It is claimed that the Red Cross was born in Russia during the Crimean War. ru:Крестовоздвиженская община сестёр милосердия contains more info. --Ghirla-трёп- 08:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for that. A few questions/comments, if I may:

  • There seem to be relatively few sources in English that mention her (hmm - thinking about it, there must be something in Helen Rappaport's "No Place for Ladies"; but do let me know if there are other good ones in Russian I should be using) but most of those that do exist seem to prefer Dasha Sevastopolskaya (or a variant) in preference to Dasha from Sevastopol or Dasha of Sevastopol.[16][17] [18] Should the geographical soubriquet really be translated?
  • Are there records to dismiss the idea that she could have died in Sevastopol in around 1910?
  • I'm not sure Dasha is the best Russian counterpart to Florence Nightingale (a better comparison might be Mary Seacole perhaps). Ekaterina Bakunina is closer to Nightingale, although no article yet (that might change shortly), but personally, as Florence was more of an organiser than a nurse, I think Grand Duchess Elena Pavlovna is the best fit. No doubt we ought to be reporting what the sources say.

There are clear parallels, but I doubt Jean-Henri Dunant or the ICRC would accept that the Red Cross was "born" in Russia in the form of the Sisters of Mercy! -- Ferma (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Russaian.png Russian Barnstar of National Merit  
For obvious reasons. INeverCry 23:54, 24 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. --Ghirla-трёп- 05:57, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

sennaya squareEdit

Hi Ghidlandajo, could you please let me know why you replaced the photo that I put in the Sennaya Square page? The photo you put was taken from the Russian version, but it's not a good photo at all, because it's at night, so you can't see anything, and you can't distinguish any recognisable features of Sennaya Square. Thanks. Azylber (talk) 10:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Because your photo is of inferior quality and does not illustrate the article at all. WP:NOTREPOSITORY. If you want to upload your personal pictures, you may consider using Flickr or Wikimedia Commons. Wikipedia is not a proper place for storing such stuff. --Ghirla-трёп- 13:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Ghirlandajo, thank you for reply. I understand your point of view, and I am thankful for you opinion, specially because you have a lot of experience, and I'm very new at editing wikipedia articles.

In my opinion, the night photo taken from the Russian article is not good, for the following 4 reasons: 1) it's at night 2) you can't see anything 3) you can't recognise sennaya square in it 4) it contains things that are wrong, such as the column seen at the back, which doesn't exist anymore

Also in my opinion, the photo that I put is better because: 1) it doesn't have any of the problems with the other photo 2) everybody can recognise sennaya ploshchad from this photo

For these reasons, I understand that the photo that I put is not 100% ideal, but I think it's better than the night photo from the Russian article.

But like I said, you are a very important wikipedia editor, so if in your opinion it's better to have that night photo, I trust your opinion.

Thanks, Azylber (talk) 14:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons link in the infoboxEdit

Hi, Ghirla. Could you please clarify what you meant by this comment? I can probably implement such a parameter fairly easily, and it seems like a good idea to have a Commons link in the infobox, but I thought I'd check with you first as to what it is exactly you were expecting. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 4, 2012; 17:44 (UTC)

Hi, Ezhiki. A standard link to an eponymous category in the Wikimedia Commons is all I ask for. --Ghirla-трёп- 17:50, 4 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is this close to what you had in mind?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); January 4, 2012; 18:12 (UTC)
Yep, thanks. --Ghirla-трёп- 18:55, 4 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New articleEdit

Good work, Ghirlandaio! But you have now prompted me to make more requests!

Can you do some more of the churches in the article about cathedrals and great churches, including this one Cathedral of the Transfiguration, Khabarovsk?

Sorry to be such a nuisance!

Amandajm (talk) 23:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ok, Amanda. --Ghirla-трёп- 09:21, 5 January 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of buildings of Pre-Mongol RusEdit

Если Вам несложно, проверьте там, пожалуйста, названия. По Новгороду я надеюсь сделать всё в ближайшие дни, удобнее сразу создавать статьи с подходящим названием. Заранее спасибо.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:15, 11 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Надо будет посмотреть повнимательнее. Сомневаюсь, например, что киевским Золотым воротам место в этом списке. Вы планируете отдельные статьи по монастырским соборам? --Ghirla-трёп- 08:45, 11 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Да, но не в первую очередь. Сначала - отдельные плюс сами монастыри, там, где нет.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:20, 11 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK nomination of VimpelCom Ltd.Edit

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DYK for VimpelCom Ltd.Edit

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dmitry of UglichEdit

Dammit, Andrey, I spent a long time yesterday fixing all the links to Tsarevich Dmitry Ivanovich of Russia (born 1582), and now you've moved it again. I don't agree with moving it to that name (although I do see that ruwiki has it under that). I think Tsarevich Dmitry Ivanovich of Russia (born 1582) is more descriptive, and fits with the other various sundry Tsareviches we have around here. Can we please move it back? -- Y not? 15:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I'm afraid we cannot. His namesakes are just a footnote in genealogical compilations and cannot compete in importance with this key figure of Russian history. Check WP:TITLE: "Article titles and redirects should anticipate what readers will type as a first guess and balance that with what readers expect to be taken to. Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources". --Ghirla-трёп- 17:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • And is that in fact the most frequent name? I have no idea if it is or not... -- Y not? 18:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]


A very funny edit summary on Yaroslavl; thanks for cheering me up :) Just out of curiosity, though—is there nothing else to see in your city except for the bloody churches?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 11, 2012; 12:09 (UTC)

  • Most of other things are unavailable due to the lack of Freedom of Panorama.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Transfiguration Church in KovalyovoEdit

When/if you have time, could you perhaps copyedit the article? It was nominated (not by me) for DYK, and there have been some questions concerning terminology of ecclesiastical architecture I can not answer properly. I also asked Peter I. Vardy. Thanks in advance.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Your edit

Hi Ghirlandajo (nice username!), I added the image because it was from a early date and it is in the commons category Lubok. Do you have any idea why it is in that category, and if it should be removed from it? Lotje (talk) 07:15, 1 October 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Featuring your work on Wikipedia's front page: DYKsEdit

Symbol question.svg Thank you for your recent articles, including Bobrok, which I read with interest. When you create an extensive and well referenced article, you may want to have it featured on Wikipedia's main page in the Did You Know section. Articles included there will be read by thousands of our viewers. To do so, add your article to the list at T:TDYK. Let me know if you need help, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 17:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

О правке статьи "Михаил КеруЛЛарий"Edit

О Михаиле Керулларии. Уважаемый Ghirlandajo - текст мой. Использовал источники по истории христианской Церкви. Священнослужитель. Имею за плечами светское высшее образование, аспирантуру. Пожалуйста, откликнитесь. Предлагаю найти компромисс. С уважением, диакон Олег Котов.

Ivan TarchanoffEdit

Hi there, thank you for your help! --SU ltd. (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Gostiny DvorEdit

Hello, I was working on disambiguating the links to Gostiny Dvor when it became clear to me that it really could be a broad concept article. I checked the history and saw your edit where you changed it from an article to a disambiguation page. Rather than reverse your edit, I thought I'd check with you to get an explanation for your edit summary. What do you mean by "back to disambiguation, no need for forking"? Thanks, SchreiberBike (talk) 17:44, 9 March 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please see Talk:Gostiny Dvor#Requested move. SchreiberBike (talk) 06:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Navboxes on author pagesEdit

Since you are the leading registered editor in terms of edits at Nikolai Gogol and Leo_Tolstoy, you might want to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels#Derivative_works_and_cultural_references_templates regarding including navigation boxes for adaptations of and related subjects to an authors works on the author's bio page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:53, 25 June 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Infoboxes arbitration caseEdit

I notice that you've added a comment yeserday to the Workshop page of the Infoboxes arbitration case [19]. Per the header at the top of all the Infobox case pages the workshop closed on the 7th. I'm not an arbitration clark so I wont remove your addition myself, but it would be most polite if you would self-revert. The workshop talk page does remain open. Thryduulf (talk) 12:21, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ternopil castleEdit

You are a complete idiot, changing Krakow to Krakiv and Jan Tarnowski to Yan Tarnovsky. This castle was built by Poland to protect Poland. I do not know why such a chauvinistic moron is still tolerated here. Tymek (talk) 21:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FAR Rus' KhaganateEdit

I have nominated Rus' Khaganate for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Chaosdruid (talk) 01:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Legionnaires' disease questionEdit

Can you please explain why you reverted a perfectly proper merger of Legionnaires' disease here? Especially as you've never edited the article, you failed to give any rationale whatsoever in your edit summary. Why did you revert the merger and then go off to Ymblanter and say I've created a content fork? The page was merged, Ymblanter has had to restore my merger. Please explain your 'edits.' Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 20:48, 18 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agrippina, Countess von ZarnekauEdit

Hello, just letting you know I nominated an article you tagged as a hoax for deletion - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agrippina, Countess von Zarnekau. Regards. --Muchness (talk) 07:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Vorontsov Palace (Alupka)Edit

Can you please be so kind as to take a look at the above article, which I'm working on. I've found lots of errors in the Soviet era books on the palace, which I think/hope I am correcting - you may known better. I'm using an English book for the section on the owners, but I think it has a lot of death dates wrong because Wikipedia has articles (which you've worked on) on many of Shuvalovs of the same or very similar names, but the death dates don't quite correspond. I'm pretty sure they are the same people, but would like to you to check them out before I link to them from the article. Thanks. Giano (talk) 15:00, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think this Pavel Andreyevich Shuvalov may be the one who married Prince Vorontsov's daughter. Giano (talk) 15:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nope. Vorontsov's son-in-law was it:Andrej Pavlovič Šuvalov (ru:Шувалов, Андрей Павлович), the owner of Pargolovo. My article ru:Шуваловы has a family tree. An anglicized version is here. --Ghirla-трёп- 15:35, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I thought you would be the person to ask. I'll translate it from the Italian. I've just found this man Illarion Ivanovich Vorontsov-Dashkov. Interestingly, despite his name, he only lived at the Vorontsov Palace because his wife inherited it - would he have owned it himself through her, or could married woman own property in Russia at that time? Giano (talk) 16:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If Vorontsov-Dashkov had divorced his wife, she would have kept the estates inherited through her mother. --Ghirla-трёп- 11:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's interesting edit [20], the book is very vague as to why that wing vam to named after the Shuvalovs. I wonder if she had separated from her husband - hence she used that as her country seat rather than one of her husband's. It's odd that with so many houses, the Suvalovs (together) would choose to share one with her brother. Giano (talk) 10:19, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I believe she lived separately from her dissolute husband with her children, the young Shuvalovs, from the 1850s onward. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:34, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That would explain why she and the children spent so much time at the Vorontsov property then - avoiding her husband. Is this the last private owner [21]? Giano (talk) 10:37, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not sure. His elder brother Ivan Vorontsov-Dashkov (1868-97) had a son, Illarion Ivanovich (1893-1920), who died from typhus in Novorossiysk. That guy probably would have inherited the palace after his grandmother's death. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You recent edits are all v interesting. I wonder how much of a dalliance the Princess had with Pushkin? Apparently she had Hunt (the architect) recreate "The Fountain of Bakhchisaray" in a courtyard at Alupka - an odd thing for a woman who claimed to rebuff him. I shall be writing that courtyard garden up in the grounds section tomorrow - it's all a fascinating subject that keeps leading to other interesting pages. I was thinking a single page on the 19th century palaces and castles of the Crimea would be good to do. I would quite like to do a trip there, probably though it's not currently the best holiday destination. Giano (talk) 20:43, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I bet :) There was probably nothing serious between the Countess and Pushkin, although this is a matter of some debate. He was motivated by vanity rather than a true feeling; and she spurned his advances. Poets were not highly regarded in the Russian aristocratic circles of the time. Pushkin was very young and held no official post, so there was a precipice between them. Some also found him physically repulsive. The Bakhchisaray poem was certainly a bestseller, but it did not become well known until after his departure from Odessa. --Ghirla-трёп- 22:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • How good are you on Islamic architecture? the Russian published sources say there are influences of Moorish architecture, but the English published source, which I have been heavily using (and trust), say it's not not Moorish at all, but Mughal architecture, and Mughal architecture when superimposed on European architecture appears Moorish, but isn't. Apparently in the 19hh century the palace was frequently referred to as The Alhambra, but that was erroneous because Moorish and Mughal are quite different. As you know, I will fight any corner on European architecture, but I don't understand the finer points of Islamic and only have a rudimentary understanding of it - are you or DDima (who is the primary author and got the page to GA) any wiser than me? DDima and I discovered a few months ago that the old Soviet sources did contain some errors and wishful thinking. I think it is Mughal, but don't want to discredit a Russian source if you and DDima don't agree. Giano (talk) 19:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Giano, I know nothing about Islamic art. For older writers, "Moorish" was an umbrella term for all Islamic architectural influences, don't you think? This building in Moscow is routinely described as Moorish Revival, for instance, although its models are Portuguese. I don't have any sources on the Crimean palaces at hand. A quick look at the Google Books found four Russian-language sources highlighting the Jama Masjid as the main inspiration for the southern facade. Some authors of guidebooks, unversed in the mysteries of architecture, repeat (in passim) that, apart from the Delhi mosque, Blore was inspired by "the palace of Muhammad I and Carlos I in Alhambra". They probably found this in some old book and so repeat without thinking. Never mind. The Lions' Terrace is not exactly the Court of the Lions. --Ghirla-трёп- 17:51, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • In the 1830s everyone read the Tales of the Alhambra, and Pushkin based The Tale of the Golden Cockerel on one of Irving's stories. Alhambra was probably viewed as a generic term for any luxurious Moslem residence. The line "There is no God but Allah" supposedly appears 9000 times in the Nasrid palace. Perhaps these associations or some details of the interior led to the name "Alhambra" which was applied to the south part of the palace from 1844 onward. Filatova in her catalogue of the Vorontsovs' portrait gallery (Г. Г. Филатова. Портретная галерея Воронцовых. Volume 1. Alupka, 1997) claims that the southern palace of the palace was called Alhambra on account of the inscription. --Ghirla-трёп- 18:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Translated from the article Галиченко А.А. Воронцовский дворец в Алупке: новороссийский губернатор и английский архитектор // Пинакотека. - 2004. - № 18/19. - С. 26-31: "Elisabeth Vorontsov was fascinated by the Alhambra tales of Washington Irving and even undertook, in 1838, a journey to Spain to see the famed palace. She brought with her to Alupka the views of Alhambra interiors drawn by an Enlishman named Satu (Сату????) and Blore's design for the garden which was based on the Generalife gardens in Granada. It took several years and a help from soldiers to realize the Irving-influenced design in Alupka". --Ghirla-трёп- 18:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well I see that well known architectural historian Winston Churchill calls it 'Moorish' - who am I to argue with him? I think the article should point out that the architecture is strictly speaking Moghul, but conveniently suited contemporary ideals of Moorish romance. Would you be happy with that? Giano (talk) 18:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Of course. --Ghirla-трёп- 18:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good. as you may know, I have not done at FAC for years; I rather fell out with the idea, but I think I would like to see this featured. However, I am not nominating it unless you are completely happy with it. You know this sort of stuff far better than I. Giano (talk) 20:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Giano, I don't think I ever took part in the FAC process, and I don't think I ever will, given my poor English and lack of interest in letter-worship and pedantry. --Ghirla-трёп- 22:37, 15 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

March 2014Edit

Information icon Hello, I'm Clarinetguy097. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Novorossiysk without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Clarinetguy097 (talk) 00:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kinzelyuk WaterfallEdit

Hi! I'm ChromaNebula (talk) , and I happened to notice the article Kinzelyuk Waterfall as I was patrolling Recent Changes. I understand that you reverted my addition of a [citation needed] tag. I did not mean to confuse or offend you. On the contrary, I was confused by the claim that it was "probably" the highest waterfall in Russia, and thought the source cited referred to the Talnikovy Waterfall (I was mistaken). Another thing I noticed about the article is that most of the links to other geographical features in that area are red links. Could you consider possibly creating those pages (as I can't read the Russian sources)? ChromaNebula (talk) 16:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Hello. Normally I'm tempted to write an English geo-stub only when I see a whopping number of interwiki links (e.g., Kureika River). I don't think the American public cares about the mountains or rivers of Russia, even if the mountains and rivers are really huge. So it's not worth wasting my time. Especially since the stubs here are quickly disfigured by ugly infoboxes or by User:Ezhiki's nasty activities. --Ghirla-трёп- 18:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Olga of Kiev EditEdit

Hi. Why did you remove the sentence I added to the Olga of Kiev article (about Bat bombs)? Fi11222 (talk) 05:23, 30 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your DYK nomination of PastilaEdit

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  • Ghirlandajo, it has been eleven days since the above was posted, and no action has been taken at the nomination or on the article. You have been active on Wikipedia in the interim, so please give your attention here as soon as possible. One week is the standard response time; in this case, if there isn't something in the next couple of days, the nomination will likely be marked for closure. Hope to see you posting soon! BlueMoonset (talk) 07:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • You will need to do a quid pro quo (QPQ) review of another nomination for your own to be approved. If you need help finding resources for DYK reviewing, there are the rules, supplemental rules (which explain them in greater detail), and the reviewing guide. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, and thanks for your work on the English Wikipedia.

I noticed an article you worked on. Just a short note to point out that we don’t normally link:

  • dates
  • years
  • commonly known geographical terms (including well-known country-names), and
  • common terms you’d look up in a dictionary (unless significantly technical).

(This even applies to infoboxes.)

Thanks, and my best wishes.

Tony (talk) 07:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nice to see you...Edit

...around again, and indeed to see two people adding to Nikolay Veselovsky in the same week! I've been poking around Steppes art a bit, I don't know if this is an area that interests you? I've said in the past that Middle Ages could do with some additions on Central/East European matters but I don't think we should add that the Bulgarians invented the Renaissance, as they all apparently learn on their mothers' knee. Johnbod (talk) 15:47, 24 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Nice to see you too, Johnbod. The Boyana claim is ludicrous, yet the wider Orthodox culture was essential for the Middle Ages. This aspect is sorely underrepresented in the article (judging by the illustrations, at least). --Ghirla-трёп- 12:05, 25 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • Steppes art is fascinating, but I don't have time for it at the moment. There are too many artifacts that require articles in this language edition of Wikipedia. The Pazyryk carpet immediately springs to mind. --Ghirla-трёп- 12:08, 25 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Pastila — final call for QPQEdit

Ghirlandajo, this is a final call for you to provide the required quid pro quo review of another DYK nomination, a requirement for your own nomination above to be approved. If we don't hear from you in the next couple of days, we will regretfully have to close your nomination as unsuccessful. I hope you will stop by and post at your nomination, which is linked above. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • As you may see from my user page, I was the first wikipedian to receive a DYK medal and the 200 DYK medal and, in the words of the then arb YellowMonkey, used to be the "driving force of DYK" from 2005 on. After spending so much time and effort on DYK, I find the latest requirements to review still more DYK nominations unfair and discouraging. If DYK does not care about its patriarchs, you'd better close the nom. --Ghirla-трёп- 16:33, 19 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is this genuine?Edit

I've just stumbled upon this page: Princess Natalia Romanovskaya-Iskander. Is it genuine or a hoax? Giano (talk) 20:44, 18 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was just checking that she existed. I know the Romanovs fell on hard times, but I never knew they had to resort to being trick cyclists - just shows how resourceful good breeding can make one. Icidentally, I just looked at the Stroganoff Palace, "This chain of ownership was preserved until 1919 when the last Count Sergei Stroganov sold his rights to the entail" I would love to know how much his rights were worth at that time. Giano (talk) 19:47, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]


The bold conflicts were more historically important or more successful in the achievement of their goals.Catlemur (talk) 15:28, 8 September 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Who decides which conflicts are important and which are not? There is no way a rebellion that spread over the territory roughly the size of Western Europe is less important than events in Bulgaria. --Ghirla-трёп- 08:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

CPSU Central Committee membersEdit

This might seem like a strange question, since its something I should probably do myself, but since I can't speak or understand Russian its a bit difficult. Even so, do you know anyone who would be interested in creating articles on the 28th different Central Committee (a list of their members, similar to 18th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China). I have a list, found it by using Google Translate, but as you may understand, the translation services falters from time to time very seriously, which makes it all but impossible in certain cases to know who is actually who. I'm not saying you should do this, but do you know anyone on Wikipedia interested in making such a list? That we don't have a list on this topic says a lot about WPs covering of Soviet, and Russian history. --TIAYN (talk) 07:45, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I can make some of the list but would you please create some appropriate redlinks first? I generally do not like creating orphans.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:55, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Stripped Classisim?Edit

Stripped Classicism is a brand new article. If we can work together to make it long enough (I need your help), I would be pleased to nominate it for a WP:DYK, and list all the contributors as creators. 7&6=thirteen () 15:04, 5 December 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Stripped Classicism comments. Needs your input and help. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen () 01:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merger discussion for MajoratEdit

An article that you have been involved in editing, Majorat, has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. MiguelMadeira (talk) 11:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC) --MiguelMadeira (talk) 11:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An article about Russian monasteryEdit

Hello! You thanked me for my article about the katholikon of the Antoniev Monastery in Novgorod, so I checked your page and figured it out that you seem to be a guru of Wikipedia in this field. I have actually just created an article about Desyatinny Monastery, so, it will be a compliment for me if you would find it curious enough to check ;) Take care! --Sterndmitri (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

DYK for Stripped ClassicismEdit

Allen3 talk 12:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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core goal of the project
Thank you, veteran productive editor in English and Russian, for a wealth of quality articles written, substantially revised and edited, often in collaboration, such as Domenico Ghirlandaio and Stripped Classicism, for "being a driving force of DYK, and for adhering to the core goal of the project", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Five years ago, you were recipient no. 1142 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 5 March 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What do you knowEdit

The Petrovo-Solovovo House
The Kurakin palace in the 1880s...
...the same townhouse after a horrible "renovation" undertaken in the late 19th century

I have just returned from your very impressive country with lots of photos, but I see most of the places I've visited have already very good articles already - most of them with your name n the history!. However, one building caught my attention which does not. Maybe because I've had to research the internet to even find out what it is/was. It seems to be a a lesser known Yusupoff Palace on the Nevsky Prospect. Google "Number 86, The 'Actors House' & a former home of Princess Tatiana Vassillievna Yusupova." It's a real neoclassical building with lots of bass relief, and I have photographed it from both angles and will upload tomorrow or later tonight. There seems to be little info available in English at least, but I'll start a page and see of it grows. Giano (talk) 18:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We have a dedicated Commons category for this building commons:Category:Nevskiy 86 but apparently no article.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh! I thought I had discovered a building that no one had noticed. Well my efforts now I have looked at them are all lopsided (that's the best) - is there anything much known about it? Perhaps on a Russian language website. Giano (talk) 20:46, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please upload your photos by any means. It should be known smth about the building, I will try to se whether there are any sources easily available.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Giano, you chose the worst time of the year to visit the country! In March, the weather must be atrocious. This building caught my attention last year so I decided to upload a vintage photo (to the right) from this website which contains some info about the palace. It was built by Colonel Fyodor Petrovo-Solovovo in the early 1800s (ru:Петрово-Соловово, Григорий Фёдорович was his son). In 1835, Count Władysław Grzegorz Branicki commissioned Gasparo Fossati, a Swiss-born architect, to have it remodeled. --Ghirla-трёп- 22:02, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We actually have Fossati brothers--Ymblanter (talk) 22:14, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now we have a curious connection with Constantinople! By the way, a previous building on the site belonged to Prince Kurakin who had several other Neoclassical palaces in a similar vein. I happened to upload a picture of his Moscow residence last week (see another picture to the right). --Ghirla-трёп- 22:24, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually Ghirla, the weather was very good if a little cold - mostly blue skies! I will start a page later today, it can be a stub and we will see what happens. Is it your opinion that it was not a Yousupoff Palace? I'll call the page Nevsky Prospect 86 - it can always be changed. Giano (talk) 09:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
When the snow is gone, tons of garbage appear on Russian streets. Sightseeing is best after the week of April subbotniks :) As for the Petrovo-Solovovo House, this page contains more information. In the late 19th century, the building belonged to Princess Tatiana Yusupova, the wife of the last Prince Yusupov and the mother of Princess Zinaida Yusupova. --Ghirla-трёп- 16:08, 16 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I always like to see places before the tourists arrive. I even love Venice best in the winter. Two things struck me hugely about St Pete's - one as the cleanliness of the streets, and the other was the amount of people using the churches for religious purposes; I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it everything was far more impressive than I expected it to be. I expect that was not the real Russia, but it was the nearest I'm likely to get to it. I ate my breakfast every morning staring at the Petrovo-Solovovo House across the street, which is a pretty nice way to start the day, and what made me curious about it. I'll expand the page a little over the next few days. can you keep an eye on it - my Russian translation is decidedly dodgy at the best of times. Giano (talk) 20:24, 16 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • PS: Years ago, when I was a child, I was told a story about another Princess Zinaida Yusupova who died sometime in the 19th century aged 100. After the revolution, when the new owners were knocking her house about, they found a walled up skeleton of one of her lovers - have you ever heard this story, of have I misremembered and confused something else? Giano (talk) 20:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The building is listed as both Petrovo-Solovovo House and Zinaida Yusupova House. We can rename the article in one of these names (I do not hold a strong opinion on this).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Обсуждение в РувикиEdit

Уважаемый коллега, обращаю Ваше внимание на это обсуждение. Возможно, Вам стоит принять в нём участие. --Humanitarian& (talk) 12:35, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Посмотрел. Энтузиасты скайпочатов, как и предсказывалось, уже закрыли все обсуждения происходящего, прикрикивая: "Здесь не место! Обсуждать нечего!" Видимо, осмысленно обсуждать что-либо выходящее за рамки рутины разрешено теперь только офф-вики :( Очистить лог от кляксы было бы шагом к выходу из кризиса, но это сделать можно и без моего участия. --Ghirla-трёп- 19:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Дал ссылку на Ваш ответ. --Humanitarian& (talk) 20:56, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • P. S. Вы, однако, не совсем правы относительно закрытия темы; похоже, что это было сделано из каких-то иных побуждений: [22]... --Humanitarian& (talk) 21:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Пожалуйста, будьте выше мелких личностей, пытающихся пиариться на фоне грандов проекта. Основная масса участников прекрасно понимает, чья роль важнее, и никогда не подаст руки этим геростратам. Просто исключите таких и им подобных из поля своего внимания и продолжайте работать. Плохой участковый - еще не повод менять квартиру. И не забывайте, что вы в ответе за тех, кого приручили. -- (talk) 04:57, 26 April 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Кляксы больше нет! Возвращайтесь! Без Вас неуютно в проекте...--DarDar (talk) 11:56, 27 April 2015 (UTC)