Category:Retailing in fiction has been nominated for renamingEdit


Category:Retailing in fiction has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 11:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

  Technical news

  • user_global_editcount is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users. (T130439)



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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:28, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Belated Speedy Category move contestEdit

Hello Fayenatic london,

I believed you processed these category moves recently that User:Gonnym proposed:

  • Category:Confederate victories of the American Civil War to Category:Confederate States of America victories of the American Civil War – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 15:42, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Category:Confederate war crimes to Category:Confederate States of America war crimes – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 15:41, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Category:Confederate cemeteries in Arkansas to Category:Confederate States of America cemeteries in Arkansas – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 15:27, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Are these really C2C, though? For all that it's a little weird we apparently categorize ACW by victories or defeats rather than just "battles involving (country)"... I don't see the issue with using an adjective form here, so the higher-level category using the country form isn't necessarily relevant on a C2C basis (e.g. Category:French cuisine is a subcategory of Category:Food and drink in France, C2C wouldn't allow a speedy move to "France cuisine"). It seems like this should have been discussed, at least? But maybe I'm missing something. SnowFire (talk) 17:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Confederate is a disambiguation page so is Category:Confederate war crimes referencing Confederate Ireland or maybe German Confederation? Categories are never left with their ambiguous names. Then we C2C the entire set. Which is why we have Category:Native American tribes in Georgia (U.S. state), even though the other Georgia (country) doesn't have any Native American tribes. Gonnym (talk) 17:21, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
@SnowFire: Do you accept this rationale? If you still dispute it then I will reverse these as needing a full discussion. – Fayenatic London 18:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
I don't. Let's have the full discussion (@Gonnym:). Agree with Gonnym that categories are stricter about not requiring disambiguation, but not when the category title includes "of the American Civil War" which fixes any disambiguation concerns immediately. For the war crimes one, everything except the US in Category:War crimes committed by country is done in adjectival form ("Italian war crimes"). The cemeteries one is the least relevant, it's not a big deal, but I'd argue that the new title sounds like it's vaguely suggesting cemeteries operated by the CSA (during the Civil War?) rather than cemeteries-of-dead-Confederates. SnowFire (talk) 18:21, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
OK, those have been reverted now, and listed as Opposed at WP:CFDS with the above. – Fayenatic London 19:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)


Can you process the categories I've listed at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working#NAC request please? They've been left for a while. ― Qwerfjkltalk 12:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

CfD closureEdit

I am surprised about the outcome of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_June_29#Category:Aftermath_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War. Everyone in the discussion save one was in favour of merging even after the renaming option was on the table, and the one opposing vote was mostly an "other stuff exists", which is tackled in follow-up nominations. Could you clarify please? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

@Marcocapelle: Thank you, I clearly misread the consensus there. I have changed the close to Merge. I will reverse the rename, then merge. – Fayenatic London 05:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Category:Forbes 30 Under 30 multi-time recipientsEdit

Shouldn't this category have been deleted too? [1] Jason A. Quest (talk) 12:58, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Template editingEdit

Hey, would you be willing to implement the outcome of Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_July_14#Category:Film_incomplete_lists yourself? There is no point in me possibly messing things up. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks – done. Luckily I spotted that I was wrong about removing the TDMCA line, and have reinstated it in template:Incomplete list. @Liz: if you are active now, please don't rush to delete empty dated categories for incomplete lists, as they will probably be re-populated shortly.– Fayenatic London 09:34, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

CfD relistEdit

Thanks for fixing my relist here, I normally use XFDcloser but it doesn't work on large nominations.
I'll try to get back to closing CfD discussions but I've been taking a semi-wikibreak. Happy editing! ― Qwerfjkltalk 08:56, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

I've finally gotten around to this, and I'm going to start closing CFDs again. I've listed a few at WT:CFDW. By the way, do you think the syntaxhighlight is an improvement? ― Qwerfjkltalk 17:27, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Category-related Barnstars!Edit

Ok, so I think we'll all agree that there are a lot of contributors to cfd. But I see you two almost everywhere. Contributing to a vast number of discussions and closing ones you haven't.

It seems to me, at times, you're all that stands between keeping a discussion going in order to find consensus, and it turning into "no consensus".

So 2 things.


  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all the work you do in and around WP:CFD. - jc37 12:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)


Hiding created this a long time ago to give to me. I'm (hopefully) paying that sentiment forward:

  The Categorisation Barnstar
For all the hard work you do regarding categories. - jc37 12:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

You both well deserve them.

And finally, as noted, you've both clearly been very active around CfD. So I'll pass on some advice which had been suggested to me by others before me:

Look around at those you see positively and civilly contributing, who you might deem to have a clue(tm). And see if they might be interested in being nominated for adminship.

If it helps, this is my criteria: User:Jc37/RfA/Criteria. But honestly, you should follow your own instincts to what you feel is right.

I wish you both well : ) - jc37 12:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Crimes categoriesEdit

Hello, Fayenatic london,

I see a lot of empty "Crimes" categories on tonight's Empty Category list. I saw you nominated a few at Speedy Rename so I wondered if you knew if these empty categories were in the process of being filled via templates and bots. I don't want to tag dozens of categories that I'll just need to untag tomorrow. Thanks for any clue you can share. Liz Read! Talk! 01:22, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Liz, I have updated the template now, and am processing the remainder of this set of categories without waiting. – Fayenatic London 06:19, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Moving requestEdit

Hello. You were active in Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_June_28#Infobox_element. The bot didn't move Category:Element data sets/overviews correctly. Can you fix it? Christian75 (talk) 07:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Christian75: It seems OK now – but it wasn't me! – Fayenatic London 07:58, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. Maybe I should have asked the bot-owner... (he did it) Christian75 (talk) 08:06, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).

  Administrator changes

  Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • CapitalistroadsterSamsara

  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
  • An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

  Technical news

  • The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
  • Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)


  • The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.


  • You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
  • Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
  • Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold ⇧ Shift between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)