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Re: Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Briarcliff Manor/archive1Edit

Please stop making revisions to this page. The only way that topic becomes a featured topic is if 10 of its articles are either featured articles or featured lists. Articles can't simply be removed as you did here to make it have 2/3 featured articles.-- 10:18, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Frogs portEdit

I noticed that all of the selected pictures at Portal:Frogs/Selected picture are identical. Not sure why this is the case, as each separate selected image page should have a different image, rather than the same one. North America1000 21:56, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: don't know either, I'll check it out. Thanks for the heads up. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:57, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
I noticed that you're working on it. While you're at the pages, would you mind removing the word "Description", and if present "Photo credit: name" for the image credit? It would really help out. At MfD people are complaining a lot about incomplete matters in portals. Regardless, since you're already working on the pages, it would save me the time of having to go and then make the corrections after you perform the fixes. North America1000 01:49, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Also, please consider holding off on portal page moves. I just spent around two hours or so fixing Portal:Mesopotamia after your series of page moves of Portal:Ancient Near East to the Mesopotamia portal, and it's very tedious. The subpage formatting was all mussed up. North America1000 01:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Could you please consider holding off on what appears to be your planned move of Portal:Library and information science? Again, other page moves you have performed is breaking portals. Sorry, and it's really not my thing to tell people what to do (hence the "please consider"), but I'm concerned at this point that in the process of breaking portals, you are also making them much more susceptible for nomination at MfD. Some users don't look into the history of portals at MfD, often only basing !votes upon what's immediately seen. I also don't want to have to spend hours performing fixes after hasty portal page moves. Hope you understand. North America1000 01:59, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to inundate, but your page move of the main Creating Portal:Ancient Near East/Key topic page and its subpages to Portal:Mesopotamia/Key topic and those subpages has left all 21 entries broken, with redlinks reading, "Portal:Ancient Near East/Key topic/Layout". So, I'm going to fix this now too. Please stop moving pages around if you're not going to fix them in the process. North America1000 02:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
@Northamerica1000:, thanks for cleaning up my mess; I unexpectedly got called away mid-cleanup or would normally have spent the hours needed to do it on all the portals myself (as I did previously for Portal:Business, Portal:Human sexuality, Portal:Mathematical analysis, several others), and will do it more quickly on any future moves. I think your concern is overdone, as none of the post-move Portals has been brought to MfD while the cleanup is in process. I still think moving to a broader topic is a good idea, and think a move to Portal:Libraries is the one that makes the most sense to do next. Are you ok with my doing that, along with all the necessary cleanup, given my above commitment? UnitedStatesian (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
I would prefer for the portal to stay as Portal:Library and information science. It's a broader topic in this format, whereas changing the topic to the narrower Library portal will lessen it's scope. The proof is in the categories:
Select [►] to view subcategories
Select [►] to view subcategories
At MfD, people are more for the broadest scope stuff staying around, and are eagerly wanting to delete narrower scope stuff. North America1000 11:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
I disagree; the categories are not a good indicator of scope. We have had libraries for nearly 3,000 years; both of the sciences are much more recent inventions. And information sceince overlaps with Portal:Information technology, which goes against WP:POG's prohibition of redundancy. I will eventually take it to MfD at its current name. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Nb. I have declined the G6 for the Portal:Libraries page again, as this is not non-controversial, in my view. I have commented at Portal talk:Library and information science, which is the preferred arena, so others can see what is occurring, and for the chance for others to opine. North America1000 07:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Page movesEdit

  • I don't have time right now to address the Libraries matter. I have spent around 10 hours of my editing time now fixing the errors you have created all over the place by your page moves, and I am still finding more. You did not update the links on many, many of the pages, which I have been working on. At this point, your page moves are significantly disrupting Wikipedia. For example, at Portal:Monarchy, it was all lit up with red links on the main portal page after your page moves. This is not how Wikipedia is supposed to work. So, I have to request that you please follow the instructions at WP:MOVEPORTAL and have an administrator perform the page moves, because I will not be able to continuously spend hours fixing the hundreds of errors you have been creating. North America1000 14:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
I restored that Royalty cat at Portal:Monarchy, in part because most of the content in the actual portal is about Royalty. You simply changed the title of the portal, but it was changed from Portal:Royalty, which most of the content is about. These page moves are also causing problems in that you're trying to change their topical scope too much, and way too fast. North America1000 14:19, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
If Royalty is under Monarchy (it is) and Royalty's full tree can be viewed by clicking on the arrow next to Royalty (it can) what is the value of repeating the entire Royalty tree a second time? UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:23, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Go look at the subpages I have been fixing. The content is mostly about royalty, royal subjects, palaces, etc. There is very little about actual governance. This is another reason why the page moves are very problematic. You're changing the topical scope, but not adding additional content to subpages about the more specific topic. Readers go to the page and it's full of information about royalty. It would be misleading to omit the Royalty category at this time per all of this. People will see only the Monarchy category and wonder why it is not particularly matching the content of the page, other than in a subcat amongst many. North America1000 14:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Take a look at Portal:Monarchy/Featured biography, the subpages of which I am fixing right now per the page moves you have performed; a bunch of red links. The portal's focus is on royalty at this time. Changing the name does not change all of the content. North America1000 14:39, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
All right. After spending hours fixing hundreds of errors you created, it's kind of easy to assume. At any rate, hopefully you're not angry or anything. You haven' thanked me or anything for the serious time I have spent to fix your errors. You don't have to, of course, it's just different. If it were me, I'd be thanking a person and helping out to correct my own errors. North America1000 15:03, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, thank you. I have been helping out too of course, and am happy to fix any errors you bring to my attention if you give me a chance to. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Hey, thanks, just trying to let you know that I'm not much into ordering people around and all of that. Difficult to express exactingly in short notes, and I'm getting tired at this time. North America1000 15:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Cats in the SandboxEdit

Hello, and thanks for the tip. I noticed I'm now listed as having pictures from Wikimedia Commons. Is there a fix for this? Thanks Davidlwinkler (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

@Davidlwinkler: I don't know; suggest you go to Wikipedia:Help desk. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Much obliged. Thanks (talk) 08:28 May 2019 (UTC)

SoftwinEdit

Hiya, I noticed you previously WP:PRODed Softwin. I had nominated it for deletion. If you are interested, please chime in at the article. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 15:53, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal: GeophysicsEdit

UnitedStatesian, thank you both for starting this AfD and for ending it. I wasn't very satisfied with the portal, and the comments inspired me to do better and think about what I want this page to do. I would like to respond to your plea to not waste time on a portal.

Geophysics is a big subject. Every year, about 25,000 scientists attend the American Geophysical Union meeting, and the range of subjects is mind-boggling. Based purely on the number of articles, the subject would easily merit a WikiProject, but I doubt it would attract enough editors to make it thrive. For me, this page is a sort of personal WikiProject, a way of showcasing the breadth and depth of the subject. I don't intend to spend a lot of time on it, but I have some ideas for making it better. For one thing, it's fun to add all of the Geophysics news stories that Wikinews overlooks.

I recently helped Ansel Adams, a page with 550,000 pageviews per year, achieve GA status. I just raised a stub, Primulaceae, to DYK status because it has been around since 2002 and has sister pages in 56 Wikipedias. Next, I am working to raise Momentum to GA status - it is level 3 vital and has 630,000 views per year. But sometimes I choose to do something that fewer people will see because it gives me satisfaction.

And in the final analysis, if we were only motivated by practical concerns, would any of us be editing Wikipedia? RockMagnetist(talk) 17:07, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Please STOP moving portal pagesEdit

You are still moving portal pages around, but breaking previous, non-automated versions of the portals in the process. Then, nobody can change the portals back to the pre-automated format without having to first go through your errors. This really needs to stop.

I understand that you want the portals to be properly named, but breaking previous versions is not the way to go about it. North America1000 08:41, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000:: it broke because you reverted it to the multi-page version, NOT because I moved it: at the time of the move it had no errors. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:42, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Some users are actively reverting automated portals to non-automated versions, and broken pages significantly impedes the process, creating more work for those who are performing the reversions. If you aren't going to fix the subpages after page moves, then please post your requests to Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests, rather than leaving broken subpages in place. North America1000 22:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
As I said before, It was a single page portal when I moved it, so there were no subpages for me to fix. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Please Move Draft:Portal:Autism to Portal SpaceEdit

Construction has finished and it is ready to .... well..... ready to portal :) - Nolan Perry Yell at me! 14:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18Edit

Hello UnitedStatesian,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
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Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

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Draft:Blue BuffaloEdit

 

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Your draft article, Draft:Hay GroupEdit

 

Hello, UnitedStatesian. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Hay Group".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:49, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of mammals of Prince Edward Island (May 21)Edit

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CASSIOPEIA was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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Order of NigeriaEdit

  Ribbon of the Order of Nigeria
Your username may denote "United States", but your contributions is a reminder to all that Wikipedia is indeed a global community. This is for saving the Nigerian portal from deletion. I want to also let you know that you're not alone in maintaining the portal. HandsomeBoy (talk) 08:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks @HandsomeBoy: not quite saved yet, but hopefully that is the outcome. Thanks for your excellent work as well. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Inside Man 2 has been acceptedEdit

Inside Man 2, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jeremy Moon (entrepreneur) has been acceptedEdit

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please move my GLAM pages back to what they wereEdit

Hi, I noticed that you changed the names of the pages in my GLAM page for the Harold B. Lee Library. I understand the desire to include punctuation in the URL, but please change it back. Changing the name changes the URLs, and I have directed students to the old URLs. I would prefer that they don't find broken links from those URLs. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:48, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey @Rachel Helps (BYU): sorry about that; I believe I have just now recreated all of the pages without the period so they work, but if you see any other issues, please let me know. Happy editing! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:06, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I made the pages you missed into redirects. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

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Nomination of Portal:Adele for deletionEdit

 

There is currently a discussion taking place as to whether Portal:Adele should be deleted at MfD.
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Thank you, –MJLTalk 21:01, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Sea#Merger_proposal Edit

  You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Sea#Merger_proposal . Sdkb (talk) 05:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Portal short descriptionsEdit

Would it save time to put the standard short description into {{Portal maintenance status}}, as has been done with {{Disambiguation}}, rather than adding it to each page? Using |noreplace would allow it to be overridden for individual portals. (Example in {{Disambiguation page short description}}.) Also, would Wikipedia portal be a better description? Certes (talk) 14:19, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

The update is one click, so does not take that much time. And almost every portal has already had an SD added, so I don't think it is worth the effort to change the {{Portal maintenance status}} code. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: West Hill Secondary School has been acceptedEdit

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Dona Nelson (artist) (June 4)Edit

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Grand City Properties (June 4)Edit

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Sandbox catsEdit

Thanks! Jacobisq (talk) 08:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Task force removalEdit

Hi, in making this edit, there was no need to renumber task force 10 to task force 9 - the WPBannerMeta template (and its subtemplates) has no problem with gaps in the number sequence. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:38, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Portal:Republic of IrelandEdit

I notice that you tagged the page Portal:Republic of Ireland for speedy deletion with the reason "G6". While that's a valid reason for speedy deletion in general, this page does not qualify for speedy deletion under that criterion because this request is not uncontroversial, and I was unable to locate a consensus for the move. If you still want the page Portal:Ireland moved to this title, please open a move request on the talk page, so the merits can be debated, and a consensus formed. Thank you. IffyChat -- 08:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Rollback on Portal:TrainsEdit

While I appreciate the effort in your recent edit to the lead section of Portal:Trains, the editors involved in WP:Trains have come to consensus some time ago that the text included on the portal is better than the lead section of the train article. There is a comment at the top of the section's source code that asks editors not to transclude the article lead there. Thanks! Slambo (Speak) 10:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circleEdit

Hi there. Can you explain whether this edit of yours was made by Durova's request, or for some other good reason? Thanks, AGK ■ 00:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@AGK: userspace redirects are not normally categorized with {{R to project space}}. Feel free to revert if you disagree with the blanking. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Keller Rinaudo has been acceptedEdit

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Speedy deletion nomination of DaVita Inc.Edit

 

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 14Edit

Newsletter • June 2019

Updates: I've been focusing largely on the development side of things, so we are a lot closer now to being ready to actually start discussing deploying it and testing it out here.

There's just a few things left that need to be resolved:

  • A bunch of language support issues in particular, plus some other release blockers, such as the fact that currently there's no good way to find any hubs people do create.
  • We also probably need some proper documentation and examples up to even reference if we want a meaningful discussion. We have the extension documentation and some test projects, but we probably need a bit more. Also I need to be able to even find the test projects! How can I possibly write reports about this stuff if I can't find any of it?!

Some other stuff that's happened in the meantime:

  • Midpoint report is out for this round of the project, if you want to read in too much detail about all the problems I've been running into.
  • WikiProject Molecular Biology have successfully set up using the old module system that CollaborationKit is intended to replace (eventually), and it even seems to work, so go them. Based on the issues they ran into, it looks like the members signup thing on that system has some of the same problems as we've been unable to resolve in CK, though, which is... interesting. (Need to change the content model to the right thing for the formwizard config to take. Ugh, content models.)

Until next time,

-— Isarra 21:43, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Camarotoechia contracta has been acceptedEdit

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Draft:Thurston HopkinsEdit

Hi. Regarding your edit, on Draft:Thurston Hopkins... I had a significant draft article written and another editor later created Thurston Hopkins. Thurston Hopkins is not as complete as Draft:Thurston Hopkins. I have been intending to initiate some kind of merge, I have seen it described somewhere how that is done where acknowledgement is given to the prior draft; I have a bookmark for that somewhere. Please can you undo the redirect so that I can seek help with making the merge happen. I made a change to the article today such that would indicate that I intended to continue work on the article, as stipulated in the CSD instructions. Thanks.-Lopifalko (talk) 17:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Lopifalko: all the previous work can be found in the history of the draft; for any edits that copy material from the draft's history to the article, just put "copied from Draft:Thurston Hopkins" in the edit summary. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: HiSmile (June 29)Edit

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by K.e.coffman was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Fails WP:NCORP & WP:PROMO
K.e.coffman (talk) 01:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Tagging empty categoriesEdit

Hello, UnitedStatesian,

Please remember when you tag empty category with Twinkle to send a notification to the category creator. You can easily set this in your Twinkle Preferences for CSD C1 tags (look for "Notify page creator when tagging with these criteria:" and include C1). I was recently brought to ANI with a complaint from an editor who had created a category that he had not been notified before the category was deleted so this is the now standard procedure for all CSD tags if you haven't already been doing it.

Thank you for your hard work! Liz Read! Talk! 03:16, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@Liz: thanks so much for the heads up; updated my Twinkle preferences just as you suggest. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:22, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019Edit

Hello UnitedStatesian,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

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Your support for new climate change project?Edit

Hi @UnitedStatesian: Are you maybe interested in adding your own name in support on the climate change project proposal? Just wondering  

Thanks! Cadar (talk) 08:06, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@Cadar: afraid I am stretched thin by other areas of WP. But I support your excellent efforts as a non-member! UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Hi @UnitedStatesian: I do understand what you mean, I'm finding myself very busy these days as well. I haven't even looked at the climate project for a couple of days.
Having said that, if I understand correctly, then editors can support the creation of a project without having to also commit to working on it. You possibly know more about it than I do, but if that's the case, could you just add your name as a supporter, and by all means state you won't be able to commit to it? It would be most appreciated  
Thanks! Cadar (talk) 23:05, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

ATA 100 ChangesEdit

Your changes to the entry for ATA 100 were quite destructive and removed useful reference information that changes extremely rarely. ATA Chapters are a specification for organizing information, similar to the Dewey Decimal categories that are enumerated on that topic's entry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ATA_100&type=revision&diff=904136364&oldid=899557435

I would appreciate the return of what was built here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.34.165 (talk) 23:00, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Cross-wiki article soft redirectsEdit

Cross-wiki article soft redirects are invitations to those who are able to make translations. Otherwise there are just red red links. Peter Horn User talk 19:31, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

@Peter Horn: I am of the opinion that the redlink is actually more inviting to prospective article creators. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:57, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
A mere red link makes for a lot of research and time to find the corresponding article in the original language. It took me a lot of time. Time saving compromise would be for example Émile Henricot (fr:Émile Henricot) counterweight handbrake (de:Wurfhebelbremse). @Bermicourt: That way a would be translators will be able to find the French or German language language texts immediately without wasting much, if any, time. Peter Horn User talk 20:22, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Provided it's not overused in any one article, I'm happy with the idea of a red link with the interwiki blue link in brackets for the reasons you suggest. Bermicourt (talk) 20:25, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
On second thought, the soft redirects are in some cases linked to many articles. To provide a blue link to another language in each one of these articles is, again, a lot of work. One can't win. Soft redirects would save work and time in many cases. Peter Horn User talk 20:37, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
There is {{ill}}, as in {{ill|Émile Henricot|fr}}Émile Henricot [fr]. Once the article exists at English Wikipedia, the link to French will vanish. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Your personal question from AfD Portal:ClimbingEdit

I am a software developer with an interest in rock climbing. I have joined the English Wikipedia because I saw the poor state of climbing articles on this site. It is even worse than on the German Wikipedia, which I read, but don't contribute to. When I looked at the climbing related WikiProject I saw its portals had been deleted twice because of low quality and lack of maintenance. A centralized hub is important for the improvement of a topic. Plain boring lists of links that you can hover over are nice and all, but that is not how people do things outside of this website (If a UX designer would see this, he would shoot himself in the head).

So I decided to join and make one myself. One that is visually engaging, acts as a guide to the most important climbing topics, but is also automated so it can function without requiring an active editor at all times. And as you said, you have no problems with its quality, so maybe I did a good job. I have tried to incorporate the concerns of those people who were adamantly against portals in these RfCs about their future. Sadly, it gets deleted anyway on a backwards "Miscellany for deletion" technical page that apparently nobody reads besides the same three editors who vote delete on all portal entries (No offense intended). If this goes through then I will probably leave this project. I don't think I want to continue working on it if this is how things are done around here. This is not supposed to be a threat meant to influence the deletion vote, hence I posted it here. I hope this answered your questions. Hecato (talk) 08:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks @Hecato: for your thoughtful response. I would encourage you, even if the Portal is deleted, to continue to contribute to the articles on climbing and in any other areas that interest you, and not to read the narrow discussions related to the Portal namespace as hostile to high quality treatment of the subject in all the other ways that are possible on Wikipedia. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:51, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Hecato, hope you don't mind me butting in here too.

First, it's great to see a skilled and enthusiastic editor such as yourself joining wikipedia. Welcome!

However, regardless of the outcome of the deletion discussion, I would strongly advise against making a portal your main thing. Portals on Wikipedia are a backwater which get abysmally low page views. There are many reasons for that, which I won't rehearse here, but I can absolutely guarantee that a climbing portal will not be a significant exception to that pattern. So no matter how good a job you do on the portal, you would be extremely lucky to get its readership up to even one tenth of the readership of the head article Climbing.

Climbing got an average of 237 daily pageviews in the first half of 2019. One tenth of that is 24 views per day, which would put the climbing portal at #338 out of 904 portals. That would place it ahead of most country portals, and ahead of other sports portals such as Portal:Golf and Portal:Tennis. The latter two are sports with a mass spectator following, which climbing lacks, so the chances of overtaking them are very low.

It seems to me that the real issue wrt en.wp's coverage climbing is that the head article Climbing is in poor shape. It has been assessed as start-class, but it's really barely beyond a stub. Improving that head article would do far more to boost readership of climbing topics than any portal could possibly achieve.

You say that our concern is the poor state of climbing articles on this site. To put it simply, if the articles are poor, then make them better. You can do that my editing them yourself, and/or by collaborating with other editors through WP:CLIMBING. But making a portal, no matter how good a job you do, won't improve a single article.

Hope this helps. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear user BrownHairedGirl As it so happens I already have that many pageviews pageviews for Portal:Climbing (Daily average: 29). I assume you are going to change your vote to "keep" now? Hecato (talk) 14:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Oh dear, oh dear, oh ear.
The pageviews for the last 6 days are distorted by the edits which you have made, by your own views of it, by those of other editors to whom you have advertised it.
So that figure of 29 is mostly noise, and utterly useless as evidence of long-term readership. You claim to be a software developer, which is a role which requires at least basic mathematical skills, so I have no doubt that you were well aware of that distortion before you chose to try to base an argument on it.
And in any case, I never set a pageview target.
So I want to make a sincere apology for my welcome to you. I mistakenly described you as skilled, whereas you have just revealed yourself to be a childish eejit, on whom I wasted some of time explaining some context only for it to be used for a smartarse trolling comment.
That sort of juvenile idiocy is not welcome at all. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:55, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I must be mistaken, but did you not say 24 views per day was a goal I could not reach because it would put me on par with such portals as Golf and Tennis? And since you have explained so kindly in the deletion discussion a portal needs to have a breadth of subject and large pageviews (both of which are measured by pageviews apparently). What am I to make of this? All the metric we have is pageviews and those say my portal must be good. If this one metric we have is not usable then the deletion discussion must be aborted by all means, do you not agree? Hecato (talk) 15:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
@Hecato, before you comment again, you should read this. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I have no interest in your personal insults, it is clear to me at this point that it is impossible to change your mind. You use policies when they suit you and you ignore them when they don't. User UnitedStatesian was at least intellectually honest. Hecato (talk) 15:33, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
By the way, if I needed any more convincing to leave this project, this discussion I just had with an Administrator was it. Hecato (talk) 15:46, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
@Hecato, I change my mind when the facts change or when a significant new interpretation is revealed. But if you ever want to change my mind, don't play games. I have a very low tolerance for tricks like misrepresentation and tendentious statistics. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
User:Hecato - User:BrownHairedGirl is specifically saying that she doesn't tolerate the misuse of statistics. She wasn't referring to the proper use of statistics. People who are knowledgeable in statistics, and I think that BHG is one, know the difference. I am perhaps even more intolerant of the misuse of statistics. I have forgotten all of the higher mathematics that I learned in college, but I haven't forgotten statistics, or high school math. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:49, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

DS Alert - climate changeEdit

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You have shown interest in climate change. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

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NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 02:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

CommentsEdit

Just sending this FYI to everyone recently in the topic area who doesn't have one in the last 12 months. And before I posted here, I sent one to myself too. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 02:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Explosives for deletionEdit

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Explosives, a portal you have made significant contributions to, is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Explosives until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 08:20, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Elimination of fraternities at Williams College (July 21)Edit

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Primefac was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Primefac (talk) 21:34, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Punjab, PakistanEdit

You may wish to delete Portal:Punjab, Pakistan. Yours aye,  Buaidh  talk contribs 18:38, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Done, thanks! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

HeyEdit

This probably constitutes edit warring. I had just removed exactly that pointless description, because it was pointless. Why did you restore it? Perhaps more pointfully, what could be done to the script to help you notice that you're re-adding exactly the same thing that you or someone else added, so you don't accidentally engage in edit wars? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:38, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing:: sorry about that, and you are correct, there is nothing in the script to identify a re-add. I would suggest if you come across a short description that is problematic, rather than deleting it, you change it to {{short description}}; this will ensure the script does not identify it as missing and create the risk of a re-add. I have done that on the Universities list. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
That ...doesn't seem to work the way I think you intended it to. For one thing, your edit on Wikidata is probably a violation of Wikidata's rules on labels.
Could there maybe be a system by which all the WikiProjects get processed one day, generic labels never get added, and then everyone agrees to just leave them alone after that?
Or maybe that's not a good idea. It might help if I understood what the point of adding this template to non-mainspace pages is supposed to be. (I know what it does. I don't understand why anyone would possibly care, outside the mainspace.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:28, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
@WhatamIdoing:: I have reverted the Wikidata edit, though I know of no rule that the edit violated. Because non-mainspace pages are visible using the WP mobile app, short descriptions are used on them; in terms of process, I would suggest you contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Short descriptions so any suggestions you have can be considered by a broader audience. I note that no other wikiPorject has contacted me to raise an issue with "Wikimedia subject-area collaboration" as a short description on a WikiProject. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:36, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Have you read d:Help:Label? Don't pay too much attention to the "proposed" template at the top: Wikidata is slow to formally adopt rules, but these are the ones that are enforced by that community.
It appears that there are four hundred of these pointless copies of Wikidata's non-descriptions of WikiProject pages. I wish you would stop doing that. Improving descriptions is good; copying poor ones between projects is not. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:55, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
We obviously disagree. Happy to listen to a third opinion if you feel strongly enough to solicit one. Of course I am not going to intentionally edit war if you want to remove all the edits I made. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:00, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I refer you to this thread. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I am well aware of the thread; I think its pretty clear conclusion is that "Wikimedia subject-area collaboration" is an improvement over no short description at all (especially in cases like Wikipedia:WikiProject Furry where the title alone is unclear), and any editor is welcome to further improve the short description; the fact that in 400 cases no editor has done so shows me that short description is actually pretty good. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:44, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hamiltonian group action (August 1)Edit

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whispering was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Whispering(t) 15:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

"Mrs. Obama" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Mrs. Obama. Since you had some involvement with the Mrs. Obama redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:52, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Just saw this. I made the redirect 10 years ago and therefore don't remember making it so I have no comment on it but I appreciate you letting me know. FlyingLeopard2014 (talk) 20:07, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Armenia portalEdit

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Armenia portal requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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