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Gamarjoba, Gia. Can I ask you to translate a piece of text from Red Army invasion of Georgia for the Hebrew wikipedia? Cinascar didi madloba, --Kober 15:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Gagimarjos kober. you mean translate from english to hebrew? because we do not have yet such article. anyway i try do my best. Geagea 15:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I mean that. It is an important topic and I'd be happy to see at least part of it translated into Hebrew. I have recently written that article using a number of credible sources. Didi madloba da gaixare, --Kober 16:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
O.k, very nice article, and many sources. also, I want to ask, sambady ask me make article about the city Oni. it is city with big history, and I can not find sources about it. may be you have better source, or you can change the article? I also try to find people that born in Oni but I coulwd find any. only in geogian wiki i find gertzel baazov her. i will be glad for any help. anyway you have many intersting articles about georgia' madlobT. Geagea 17:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Gaumarjos Gia. I’ve added some more details to the Oni, Georgia article. I’ll add more info if I find any. Best, Kober 05:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Many thank's. Geagea 09:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks to you too for translating the Red Army invasion article in Hebrew.--Kober 09:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

გაუმარჯოს გია. ამ ლეგიონებს ერთმანეთთან კავშირი არა აქვთ. სულ სხვდასახვა დროს და ვითარებაში ჩამოყალიბდნენ.

ქაქუცა სადაც მსახურობდა, ეს იყო რუსული არმიის ქართველ ცხენოსანთა ლეგიონი, რომელიც ირანში და სირიაში გაიგზავნა ბრიტანეთის ჯარების დასახმარებლად და პირველი მსოფლიო ომის ბოლო წლებში სამშობლოში დაბრუნდა. "ქართული ლეგიონში", რომელიც გერმანელებმა 1914 წელს შექმნეს, ძირითადად გერმანიაში მყოფი ქართველი სტუდენტები და ემიგრანტები იყვნენ, სულ 1400 კაცი. ესენი 1918 წელს გერმანელებთან ერთად საქართველოში შემოვდნენ და შეურთდნენ დამოუკიდებელი საქართველოს ეროვნულ არმიას.

მეორედ გერმანული არმიის "ქართული ლეგიონი" უკვე მეორე მსოფლიო ომის დროს შეიქმნა და 1944 წლის ბოლომდე არსებობდა. ქართველებს მაინცდამაინც არ მოსწონდათ რომ გერმანელები მათ ინგლისელებთან და ფრანგებთან საომრად გზავნიდნენ და მოითხოვდნენ კავკასიაში გაგზავნას. ამიტომ ძირითადი ქართული ნაწილები გერმანელებმა დაშალეს და სხვადასხვა მხარეს გაფანტეს. მათ შორის იყო 813-ე ბატალიონი, რომელმაც ტექსელზე ცნობილი აჯანყება მოაწყო.

აი ეს არის მოკლედ რისი თქმაც მინდოდა. ეს ლეგიონები სხვადასხვა სამხედრო ნაწილები იყო და სხვადასხვა შინაარსის. ბედნიერად, --Kober 05:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

many thank for the answars. Geagea 00:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


I improved your user pageEdit

Hi there,

I improved your English user page a little. If you don't like it, please revert it and accept my apologies. --Amir E. Aharoni 09:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

תודה אמיר. Geagea 16:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


1. when exactly the georgian legion of 1914 stop being unit?

In 1917, by the decree/orders of President Zhordania the Georgian Legion was disbanded and its members displaced in various newly created army of GDR. The reason for this dismissal was due to the pressure from the victorious Allies from whom Zhordania expected the recognition of his country. The German-sponsored legion was a negative stain on the British-French relations with newly established independent Georgia.

2. what is the connection between Kress von Kressenstein and the georgian ligion?

Count Von Kressenstein was commissioned by Marshal Ludendorf in 1914 to create an expeditionary German force to Georgia which would equip and train the newly created Georgian Legion. Kressenstein appointed Horst Schliephack as the commanding general but later he was replaced by the talented Count Ferdinand Wolfgang von der Schulenburg as the general of the Georgian Legion.

3. do the georgian legion exsits this time? do the legion join the army of the new country? whan?

Georgian Legion was created by the end of 1915 and was fully functional as a military force by mid 1915. The legion engaged in various battles for Georgia during the Turkish aggression on Batumi (1916-17). Ldingley 19:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
many thank for the answars. Geagea 00:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Didi MadlobaEdit

Many thanks, Gea, and happy holidays to you too. I wish you all the best to you and your loved ones in the upcoming year! --Kober 05:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


Hi Gia. How are you? The information on the Cyprus deal appears to be correct. I found something about it and added citations in the article. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. All the best, KoberTalk 05:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Ivane MachabeliEdit

Gamarjoba Gia! Many thanks for that link. It proved to be very useful. All the best, --KoberTalk 19:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gia. I just saw your message on my talk. Unfortunately, I'm very busy in real life, but I'll definitely take care of those articles when I have time. Thanks, --KoberTalk 07:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Gia. Many thanks for wishing me good luck. Best of luck to you too. --KoberTalk 04:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


Gamarjoba Gia. Never heard of such a name. I did some Googling in Georgian and found out that კობო means "unripe" in Megrelian and Laz.[1] I'll try to do some more research. Best, --KoberTalk 05:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


Hi! It is also an Abkhaz name. Look here, for example. Alaexis 05:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


A Georgia-related article is being considered for deletion. I thought you might want to vote. [2] Edrigu 16:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Georgia WikiProjectEdit

Batumi and sister citiesEdit

Hi Geagea. I don't really know anything about it. I checked the Adjara government website, but could not find anything. Let's leave it as it is now until more precise info appears on the net. All the best, --KoberTalk 04:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, see what I have found. [3]. --KoberTalk 13:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
  The Working Man's Barnstar
I, Kober, hereby award you this barnstar for your heedful monitoring of the accuracy of Georgia-related articles; and for your hard and tiresome work with fixing interwiki links. Keep up the good work! KoberTalk 05:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

:) Geagea 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations with the Day of Independence. Long live Georgia!

--KoberTalk 20:25, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Economy GeorgiaEdit

You are wellcomed to take part in the voting on Talk:Georgia (country) Tamokk 01:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Geagea, how are you? Nice to hear from you again. I had been offline for nearly a month, but I will try to remain active in Wikipedia. All the best, KoberTalk 17:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Gia. I don’t think that kuropalates can be identified with prince-elector. In my opinion, these two offices were essentially different. It is really difficult to find an English equivalent for kuropalates, but it can literally be translated as "a guardian of the palace." As for Rizhinashvili, here’s what I found in kartuli sabchota encyclopedia:
Abram (Itska) Rizhinashvili (April 12, 1886 – July 17, 1906) was a Georgian Jew from Kutaisi. He studied at the Kutaisi Real Gymnasium and became involved in the social-democratic movement. While studying at the Leipzig University, he joined a local Bolshevik group in 1904. Back to Georgia in 1905, he helped propagate Marxist ideas among the army soldiers stationed in Imereti and Samegrelo. He was assassinated by a Tsarist police agent in Kutaisi (he was indeed 20 years old). Georgian Soviet Encyclopedia, volume 8, p. 395.
Btw, he appears to be a hero of the play by the famous Georgian-Jewish writer Gerzel Baazov who was shot under Stalin in 1937. Thanks for asking me this question, because I have never heard of him before. :) KoberTalk 16:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Meny thanks Kober I put it alsi un English Itska Rizhinashvili. Geagea 00:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


-WarthogDemon 00:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

dzalian mixaria shentan ertad rom var

saxeli? Geagea 12:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


Hi Gia. I'm fine, thank you. And how the things are going with you? Unfortunately, I have very little info beyond what you actually wrote on my talk page. I think these are just two different opinions about Rustavi's name. Anyway, I will try to get more on it. All the best, --KoberTalk 04:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. Geagea 01:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Abkhazia flagEdit

Hi my friend. I have no idea who brought this flag here. It is not an official flag. Currently, the Government of Autonomous Republic of Abkhazia uses the flag of Georgia. Best, --KoberTalk 17:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


Hi Geagea, how are you? The Battle of Sasireti took place before Liparit went to help the Byzantines against the Seljuqs and was captured in the battle in 1048. So, the correct date seems to be 1042. Thanks for spotting this inconsistency. As for the Varangians, they were just mercenaries and helped those who paid more. :) At Sasireti, they were allied with Bagrat, but in most of other conflict, they formed a special units within the Byzantine army. I'm not completely sure about Svindax; will check it. Best regards, KoberTalk 05:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait... I just checked the date of Sasireti and one source says it occurred in 1046. It is really confusing. Let's leave 1042 for the time being, OK? --KoberTalk 05:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi Gea. I think I've fixed everything you mentioned in my talk page. I'm really amazed by your ability to spot such invisible things. Great job indeed. You are the best! :)) --KoberTalk 09:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


Hello Gia. The source says about the meeting on 28/07/2006 not 2007. Btw, I'm working on the article about the famous Georgian-Jewish writer Gerzel Baazov and hope to put it on Wikipedia today. Best regards, --KoberTalk 04:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


Yes, I found an article about David Baazov at the very same website you told me about. Here it is. Which is the correct form in English: Gerzel or Herzel? Thanks, --KoberTalk 11:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I think Gerzel from georgien. Geagea 11:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello again, Gia. Here's Gerzel Baazov. David Baazov coming soon... --KoberTalk 16:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Abkhazia subdivisionEdit

That's because Abkhaz separatist government created "Tkvarcheli district" which is not a separate entity within the official subdivision of Georgia, but is part of Gulripshi and Gali raions. Regards, --KoberTalk 20:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The David Baazov article is ready. --KoberTalk 09:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


Hi Geagea. Samtskhe Province, Ottoman Empire needs to be completely rewritten. I will take care of it as soon as I find enough time. The article in Georgian wikipedia will, of course, be helpful. Thanks for the link. As for the Kutaisi gubernia, the Georgian article is more accurate. The Russian one is entirely based on the out-of-date Энциклопедический словарь Брокгауза и Ефрона and has never been updated. Best, --KoberTalk 05:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. Thanks for your accuracy. I've corrected the date of the 1918 changes in the Georgian cabinet. It occurred on July 24 1918. As for Nichephorus Phocas, the name itself is correct, but the link was wrong. This is another Phocas (son of Bardas Phocas), not Nikephoros II. Well, the "Byzantine-Georgian conflicts" also sounds good. All the best, --KoberTalk 05:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)


Hey Geagea, how are you? You are not disturbing me. I'm always glad to your comments and efforts to improve the accuracy of Georgia-related articles.:) I'll try to fix those problems as soon as possible. All the best, --KoberTalk 05:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gea.
1. Didgori - corrected (40 km from Tbilisi)
2. Yes, Basian, Phasiane and Pasinler refer to the same region. As for its location within Meskheti, it is true but only when the medieval term Meskheti is used in a larger sense covering both Samtskhe-Javakheti and Tao-Klarjeti. The article on Basian is much needed and I'm going to create it somehow soon.
3. The date when Georgians took Kars: corrected (1206/1207)
4. I agree that the category:Former provinces of Georgia is rather confusing. Its name was Historical provinces of Georgia, but somebody moved it to "Former Provinces". Kabardino-Balkaria can be classified as a former province of Georgia, but it is obviously not a "historical province" in a commonly accepted notion of this term. So, I'm not sure about this one.
Hope that helps. Best, --KoberTalk 07:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Gea. Yes, you are correct: since the loss of Tao-Klarjeti, the term Meskheti narrowed to denote only the small region which is shown on the map. As for the united kongdom of Georgia, it is indeed a great idea to have this article and I'd also like to work on it for English Wikipedia. The Kura Plain is actually a large region which lays along the Mtkvari, but I do not remember where exactly these battles took place. I will try to find it out and will let you know. And you are right about Cumans. They are the Kipchaks. As for the war in Shirvan, sources variably put either 1123 or 1124. Let's write 1123/1124, OK? :) Cheers, --KoberTalk 07:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


Hi Gea. How are you? Unfortunately, I have never heard of it, and I don't have any materials regarding the Georgian Jewish names right now. I'll try to get some info, though. Cheers, --KoberTalk 05:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


Gaumarjos Gea. Is the town of Zagrum (Zagrom or Zagram; where the Georgian Jews lived in the 17th century before being relocated to Iran) the same as ძაგემი or ძეგამი (aslo known as ბაზარი) in Kakheti? Could you please check it in the Hebrew sources? That Zagemi/Zegami/Bazari was a lively commercial town and it is quite possible that the kings of Kakheti settled a Jewish community there to help the local economy to develop. Thanks, --KoberTalk 13:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Persian sources locate it in Hereti. In what is today (abusively) is called republic of Azerbaijan, though I should say that the name Hereti does not appear in Alam-Ara. I remeber that I read in one Persian source that Zegem was the centre or capital of Eastern Georgia., but that also included areas in the contemporary rep. Azerbaijan --Babakexorramdin (talk) 03:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Dear Gia,

Here I wanted to appriciate your contribution to wikipedia, and your help to settle a dispute on Iranian Georgian page with Babakexorramdin. In Nov. 2007 he questioned that there had been Gerogian Jews who migrated to coast of Caspian sea in Safavid Persia. Dispite several sources I presented he insisted that such thing is impossible until you confirmed Dr. Levy's book and presnted new sources also. I am very intrested in History of Jews in Georgia and specifically this particular community from Zagrum. Would you advise me about possible sources that I can read furthur about this community before their migration out of Georgia? (Ben (talk) 10:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC))

Dear Gia, In addition to Dr. Levy's book I have encountered several other works about the migration of the Jewish community of Zagem that mentions them as Gerogian Jews. One of them is Matthee, Rudolph P. (1999), The Politics of Trade in Safavid Iran: Silk for Silver, 1600-1730. Although, they most probably came from a city which today is located in northwest of Azerbijan with a similar name "Dzegam". This town matchs the map in following link which is a research by Maeda Hirotake by the name "The Forced Migrations and Reorganisation ofthe Regional Order in the Caucasus by Safavid Iran Preconditions and Developments Described by Fazli Khuzani". This research is based on primary sources and also contains a map and details about the forced migration of Jews of Zagem to Mazandaran(North of todays Iran). I'd like to see your Hebrew source about Jews of Zagem. Thank You. --Ben (talk) 21:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


Happy holidays to you too, Geagea. Didi madloba, --KoberTalk 05:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Geagea. Thanks, I’m fine. And how are you? I replied on my talk page. Best, --KoberTalk 06:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to you too, Geagea. "Tetri" was also used to denote such coins at that time. I'll try to obtain more info about the monasteries. I'm currently looking for the relevant publications through the National Library website. Best, --KoberTalk 06:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Geagea, You have done a great work! --KoberTalk 15:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
According to the Flickr categorization, Chekhila is in Kakheti, but I have never heard of this monument. I sent a message to the author of that photo. --KoberTalk 16:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. No, Kutaisovs they are not of Georgian origin. --KoberTalk 05:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

gaumarjos Geageas, manishma? besender?. If you have time please add more info on Judeo-Georgian in South Caucasian languages. Thanks, Leitraot erets Ish'rael Iberieli (talk) 23:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. Have you seen this one? --KoberTalk 05:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


Hello Gia. Thanks for the link. I’m currently preparing a series of articles on Georgian nobility and that certainly will of help. Thanks again. Btw, I have recently uploaded a frontal image of the Great Synagogue of Tbilisi here. Until recently, we had only pictures of the synagogue’s interior on Commons.--KoberTalk 16:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Geagea, I cannot stop being amazed by your ability and eagerness to find such invisible inconsistencies and correct them. :) Thank you so much for this great job. Indeed, Vakhtang VI’s printing house was established in 1709. 1712 is the year when the first book was printed there. Cheers, --KoberTalk 06:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Dasturlamali (დასტურლამალი) was a name given by Vakhtang to his “constitution” regulating the royal court and state organization. It is a word of Persian origin and means a “set of laws”, if I correctly remember.
  • According to some sources on the Internet, Hussayn Quli Khan was a Muslim name of Vakhtang VI, but I could not verify it in the printed Georgian texts. I will try to learn more about that.
  • As for the size of Vakhtang’s Georgian-Armenian army, some sources put it at 40,000 while others at 50,000 or even 60,000. I think it will be OK to write just 40,000-50,000. What do you think about it?
  • The palace of Vakhtang in Moscow did not survive and I don’t really know if a contemporary picture of it exists.
  • Regarding Sub-Gevork, I think there is some confusion on Georgian wikipedia. The Armenian church in Isani (which has the 9 April memorial) is called Norashen. Sub-Gevork is located in Meidani Square, near the old bathes. I’ve got a book on old Tbilisian placenames and will look into it.
Best, KoberTalk 16:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


  The Barnstar of National Merit
For your excellent and amazing contributions to Georgian and Georgian Jews-related articles, you are awarded the Barnstar of National Merit for your hard work and dedication in the field of knowledge in Georgian and Jewish studies. Keep up your amazing work! Lekhaim!
Talk 22:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
this WikiAward was given to Geagea/Awards by Iberieli Talk on 22:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Iberieli (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Manishma Geagea? Besender itxa? Leitraot. Iberieli (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Geagea, how are you? Many thanks for the award. :))--KoberTalk 13:38, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Luka ChkhartishviliEdit

No, Geagea. I have never heard of him. Appears to be a real person, though. I found an interesting website about the Wild West Georgians. Best, --KoberTalk 14:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

David Baazov Museum of History of Jews of GeorgiaEdit

Hi Geagea. Just wanted to let you know about this new article.--KoberTalk 04:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yehudei GeorgiaEdit

Shalom Ichulim! Manishma Geagea? Atah Medaber Ivrit? Is this correct spelling in Hebrew for Yehudei Georgia: יהודי גאורגיה nu tzadakti? tuchal la'azor li? Im starting to work on article Georgian Jews when time will allow.

Todah Rabbah, ihulim levaviim, chaver shelach, Iberieli. Iberieli (talk) 21:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

shalom zamia, I'm learning Biblical Hebrew and hope to study next year at University of Jerusalem (if they accept my application). I will work on Georgian jews article (I have very interesting sources from various Georgian medieval annals). I believe about those anti-Semitic paranoia in Sachkhere but as I know, Georgia has been a safe heaven for Jews for thousands of years. Although nobody can prevent anti-Semitism, its a disease which need to be contained at its root cause :) We can work together to improve that article but I have very limited time now (im working om my paper for university). Thanks a lot for your info. All the best. Iberieli (talk) 02:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


Hello Geagea. Sorry for a late reply.

Hope this helps. :) Best regards, --KoberTalk 15:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome, Geagea. Ibrahim I of Shirvan was allied with Timur and Timur ordered him to estimate the revenues and expenses of Georgia in order to calculate the amount of tribute which was to be paid by the population of Georgia to Timur. --KoberTalk 16:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's true. Immediately after Timur's death, his empire fell into pieces and Ibrahim declared war on Timur's successors - the Timurids. Now he was allied with the kings of Georgia. --KoberTalk 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it appears to be an Arabic word.
"Aman: Pity, compassion, mercy, clemency, favour."[4]
For the discussion of aman in the Islamic law, see here. --KoberTalk 16:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm always glad to cooperate with you. Thanks to you too for your tireless work.--KoberTalk 16:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for kind words, Geagea. Well, trying my best... :) --KoberTalk 12:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations with a FA! Great job, Geagea. :) --KoberTalk 05:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello Geagea :)Sorry for late answer :) I was not in Tbilisi, spend weekend and some more dayes in mountainous poart of Georgia. So, thank you very much for helping. I think I have to take pics myself :) Yes of cource I can speak Georgian, I live in Georgia and I am georgian :) and what about you? and last ansver: I got interested in jewish museum because I work there :) and last question: most of the photos I want to add in my article are taken by the director of the musuem and he wants me to add this photos and so why is it the problam I can't understand :( best wishes --Museumjewish (talk) 06:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello and thank you again :) I could take very good photos with my camera :) but the problam is that jewish museum is under construction and all the expositions are in several museums, no problam, I will manage something :) thanks a lot :) --Museumjewish (talk) 14:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Tamar of GeorgiaEdit

Thank you very much, Geagea. Yes, she died at the castle of Agarani which is near the modern-day Tabakhmela. Agarani is mentioned in the article. Thanks again, :) --KoberTalk 20:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

It's me again. :) Have you seen this directory of Georgian Jewish surnames? It also has an English version. --KoberTalk 20:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi Geagea. That's actually a good idea. I will work on it when I have enough time. I will also try to obtain maps. Regards, --KoberTalk 15:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Here's a Tbilisi map at commons. [5]--KoberTalk 16:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed that you speak Georgian. I've been looking at the website of the Provisional Administrative Entity of South Ossetia, and although they have an English version, most of the information is in Georgian. If there any chance you could let me know what the basic gist of is of the following articles (no need for a full translation):

Thanks, Khoikhoi 06:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, what do you mean? Khoikhoi 19:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Ah, well that would be nice - just if you could tell me what the articles are about, you don't need to do a full translation of the entire text. Khoikhoi 20:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your attention, Geagea. I'm ok. And how are you? --KoberTalk 04:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, my dear friend. Hope you are okay as well. Yes, Georgia has seen many misfortunes. It even survived eight invasions by Timur which strikingly parallels the current Russian onslaught on Georgia: ethnic cleansing, scorched earth tactics, ecocide... But Georgians are not going to surrender.--KoberTalk 15:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


How are you, Geagea. Hope you are doing ok. --KoberTalk 06:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Gia. I'm also fine. Oh, yes, that rain nearly destroyed all roads in my district. Regarding instruments, I'm not sure about Garmoni, but Panduri is indeed Georgian and I'll probably split it into a new article as it has been suggested a while ago.--KoberTalk 06:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Rustavi 2Edit

Hey man, I could tell you were Georgian because of your page. I just wanted to ask you to keep an eye on the Rustavi 2 page because it had been attacked by the sketchy Russian POV-pushers. KOBA (talk) 00:04, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

translation problemsEdit

Could you please clarify what the following passages from he:יהדות_סוחומי mean:

1. "התארגנה הקהילה היהודית במקום ונרשמה כחוק"

What happened with the community? Was it simply registered or recognised or something else?

2. "בית כנסת שנבנה בעשור הראשון של המאה ה-20 "

Was this synagogue the first in 20th century Russia, USSR, Georgia, Abkhazia or Sukhumi?

3. "המשיכה הקהילה לפעול במבנה"

What was done in the building at Gogol street? Best regards, Alæxis¿question? 07:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

1. The registeretion means recognition by the authorities.
2. No. it means 1st decade of the century.
3. The community keep acting from this building without the authority permission.
Geagea (talk) 02:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. I've got another question now - do the numbers of Jews in Sukhumi come from Altshuler's book or from somewhere else? Alæxis¿question? 13:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I collect the numbers from few sources. And I have one note about the new History of the Jews in Abkhazia article. The jews in Abkhazia, Ashkenazi and local jews, are Georgian Jews. For example: Boris Gaponov (he:דב גפונוב), the transelator of The Knight in the Panther's Skin to hebrew was ashkenazi jew and he was Georgian jew. Geagea (talk) 23:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I think there's something of a terminology problem. Georgian Jews is a distinct Jewish community, like Ashkenazi or Sefardi Jews. This is not the same as Jews living in Georgia (who also can be called "Georgian Jews" in some cases). I've used this term in the first sense in the article, like it's done in this article. Alæxis¿question? 11:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The research about Georgian Jews refers to ashkenazi and Sefardi jews in Georgia. You can see this map two comminities in Sukumi and Gagra were exist until the imigration of jew to Israel. and old community in Ochamchira. The division of jews in the world is not by political division. It is cultural division that based by nass research. According to the jews point of view the jews in Abkhazia, at least until 1992-1993, are Georgian Jews. The ashkenazi jews also were Georgian Jews. I understand the political situation. maybe it better for you to make article about Sukhumi Jews. Geagea (talk) 01:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I don't quite understand you. Here's how I understand the situation - the term 'Georgian Jews' may be used in 2 meanings. The first is a sub-ethnic group of Jews historically from Georgia. Of course they do not necessarily live in Georgia. Also, not all Jews living in Georgia are 'Georgian Jews' in this sense. The second meaning is all the Jews who live in Georgia. Both meanings are valid and could be used depending on context.
Now, the Wikipedia article about Georgian Jews (that I haven't edited at all) is about 'Georgian Jews' in the first sense. So, for the sake of consistency I've used the term 'Georgian Jews' in this sense also in the article about Jews in Abkhazia. There's a wikilink there and so it's clear for a reader what do I mean by this term. In other words, it's not implied in the article that Jews living in Abkhazia have or haven't been 'Georgian Jews' in the second sense.
Why do you think that the article about Sukhumi community would be better? There's not that much info in this article so that article would be even briefer.
Thanks for the map, it's very interesting. Alæxis¿question? 11:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


Hi Gea. Thanks, I'm fine. I hope you are also doing well. Honestly, I don't know much about the person. As far as I know, he was of Russian Jewish origin, but worked in Georgia. I'll let you know as soon as I find more info on him. Best, --KoberTalk 20:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is certainly of the Democratic Rep. period. --KoberTalk 20:25, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


Hi I noticed your revision to Akhalgori. Is it not called Akhalgori by the Georgian government any more???

Thankyou 安東尼 TALKies 10:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


Many thanks, dear Gea. Wish all the best to you too. I'm closely watching the current developments in Israel. Hope you feel safe.--KoberTalk 12:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. How are you? I'm really sorry for such a late reply. I'll do a quick research in Borjomi's history as soon as possible. Regarding the Gaza fighting, I do think that Hamas and peace in the region are incompatible with each other. Hope everything will end soon. All the best, --KoberTalk 18:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. How are you? At last I managed to rewrite Borjomi. I will expand it as time permits. I fixed most inaccuracies you have mentioned.

1. Borjomi was never a part of the Ottoman Empire although Ottomans frequently raided it. In the 1829 treaty, they finally gave up all claims to the area.

2. Grand Duke Michael Nikolaevich built a mansion in Borjomi itself. The Likani palace was constructed by his son, Nicholas Mikhailovich.

3. Meskheti is a larger term. It includes not only Samtskhe, Javakheti and Tori, but also Tao-Klarjeti and part of Adjara. However, Meskheti and Samtskhe are sometimes used as synonyms. The term "Tori" has not been used since the 15th century. It was sometimes known as Saavalishvilo after the Avalishvili family, but was considered as part of Kartli. The historical geography of these areas are really confusing because the terms were frequently used interchangeably and the provincial borders commonly fluctuated due to constant infighting and foreign invasions.

Best regards, --KoberTalk 12:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Kober. and one more thing about Borjomi. it is mentioned that according to Treaty of Adrianople (1829) the sovereign about Borjomi turned from the Turks to the Russians and then the city get the ourday name Borjomi. it mentioned in the German wiki, and this what it means if I understand it correctly. Geagea (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome, Gea. I don't think that this version is accurate. The name Borjomi first appears in a 1819 letter by Prince Avalishvili to the Russian viceroy. The Treaty of Adrianople was a confirmation of the earlier Russian acquisitions in the region. --KoberTalk 04:34, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. Of course, Abastumani is another place. As far as I know, the grand duke lived in Borjomi and frequently visited Abastumani where he eventually died. --KoberTalk 20:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Borjomi waterEdit

Please check the Hebrew transliteration of Borjomi water: is it בורג'ומי as you have written in he:Wikipedia or perhaps בורז'ומי, as pronounced in other languages. --Zlerman (talk) 14:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

The correct is בורג'ומי from Georgian. Geagea (talk) 00:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Sochi agreementEdit

Hi Geagea. Thanks for brining the article to my attention. I'll check it for NPOV as soon as possible. And many thanks for your great job of illustrating the Georgia articles. --KoberTalk 19:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey Geagea. How are you? Have not talked with you for a while. --KoberTalk 15:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello Geagea. Sorry for a late reply. Rtveli is not a unique phenomenon in Kakheti. It's also celebrated in other provinces of Georgia. But the Kakhetian rtveli is still more colorful and traditional. Regarding Sulayman Pasha al-Adil, I found this. He appears to be of Georgian, like many of the Mamluk rulers in the Middle East. Best wishes,--KoberTalk 10:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

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Soviet Caucasus 1922Edit

Why you removed my map of Soviet Caucasus from several articles? What problem you have with that map? PANONIAN 22:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Ossetians in Trialeti with official borders??? I clearly stated in map legend that it was only a territory claimed by South Ossetia and I do not see that map legend claim that these are official borders. How would you present one territory in a map without borders? PANONIAN 23:04, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I know what which territory was, but I asked you how you propose that I show border of Trialetian Ossetia in the map? Should I use different colours or what? PANONIAN 23:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
To to push my political agenda!??? And what that agenda might be? I live in Serbia and I really have no any political agenda related to Caucasus, so please try to discuss about subjects of the maps or articles, not about other users. Anyway, I deleted border of Trialetian Ossetia in new map version. Do you have any other objection to this map? PANONIAN 23:56, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
This map is clearly another anti-Georgia hysteria and plus complete violation of NPOV, its OR and biased. I will request its prompt deletion. Iberieli (talk) 15:25, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Russian mapsEdit

shalom, manishma? here [6] Iberieli (talk) 04:03, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello Geagea, can you also please watch out for History of Georgia (country). Some Armenian chauvinist user keeps vandalizing the Roman map and removes content. How can i report him to administrators? Iberieli (talk) 16:15, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Tsqaltubo etc.Edit

Hi Geagea, don't worry about misunderstandings. I'm starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Georgia (country) about standard romanization of Georgian names, join it if you're interested. Markussep Talk 13:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

About Grigol RobakidzeEdit

If you write me directly, I can send you copy of Robakidze's photo. And you can post yourself. Please don't use the cropped version of our cover Azerbaijan International which includes four portraits - not just Robakidze's.


Ilya ZankovskyEdit

Hi Geagea, can I ask you to translate descriptions of Ilya Zankovscy ილია ზანკოვსკი watercolor images? I wrote an article about this painter (in Polish), but I can't translate the descriptions. Many thanks!

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Stefan2, I have nominated File:Medzhibozh graves.jpg and added this and this but I apparently doing something wrong. --geageaTalk 04:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Fixed it, hopefully. --geageaTalk 04:27, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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