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Category:Hero Cities of the Soviet Union has been nominated for discussionEdit

 

Category:Hero Cities of the Soviet Union, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); May 6, 2016; 12:47 (UTC)

equal marriages Romanov Bagration .Edit

When Princess Tatiana Konstantinovna , daughter of G-D Konstantine Konstantinovich, obtained the consent of her father to marry Konstantine Bagration and of course the blessing of HIM Nicholas II, she signed an official renouncement to their future children's rights, and that was BEFORE the abdication of the Romanov dynasty. So did her niece Ekaterina Ioannovna, princess of the Imperial Blood, in the late thirties, when she married Ruggero, marchese (in italian, or marquess, it means the same,) Farace di Villaforesta, for their children. Neither of these children : Nicoletta, Fiammetta and Ivan Farace ever considered themselves as heirs.... but Ivan, now marchese Farace di Villaforesta, is an active honorary member of the Family Association since his mother passed away in 2007. Like HM the King of Greece, Prince Michael of Kent, and other members of the Family, not necessCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). arily of the Dynasty. If Konstantine was not equal to Tatiana Konstantinovna, Leonida was not equal to Vladimir Kirilovich.( Who was not a grand duke himself, according to the Laws, it was a "titre de courtoisie"...). This is simple and clear . Grand dukes, during the last years of the Empire, were only brothers, children and grand children of the Emperor. The sons of GD Konstantine Konstantinovich were born as grand dukes, but became princes when the Laws were modified, before the end or the monarchy. The last Emperor was GD Mikhail for a very short time, and all the grand dukes and grand duchesses are now dead, alas. Sources : myself, marchesa Farace di Villaforesta— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:cb11:192:3f00:cc03:3d6f:ac49:d639 (talkcontribs)

Archival images and copyrightEdit

I'm attempting to track down authorship and publication information on a bunch of photos that likely live in Moscow archives, such as File:Kronstadt attack.JPG. Are any page watchers either experts in Russian copyright or in the Moscow area? If so, please {{ping}} me and I'll elaborate further. czar 05:41, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Renewable energy in RussiaEdit

Renewable energy in Russia, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

RfC on image for Vladimir Putin's articleEdit

Hello, there is currently an open RfC regarding what image should be used in the infobox of Vladimir Putin's article, if anyone here would like to add there input. Link to the RfC. Thanks. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 16:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Perm OblastEdit

The Perm Oblast of Russia was the inspiration for the geological Permian Period. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Porter Rockwell (talkcontribs) 20:17, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Basin and Range, a book by John McPhee, ISBN 0-374-51690, page 114~~~~

Is the Movement Against Illegal Immigration (DPNI) a supremacist organization?Edit

Hi, I would like to share with you this discussion about the banned organization Movement Against Illegal Immigration (DPNI). I reported all the sources, including some RS, of the racist and anti-semitic leader's statements about the White Russia during the demonstrations organized by the DPNI. If you want to contribute to the discussion, it would be interesting.--Mhorg (talk) 21:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I guess I'll respond here as I partially reverted your changes. You need to find sources that say it's a supremacist organisation, otherwise it's your synthesis which isn't allowed per WP:OR. Note that you absolutely can add all those racist statements made by Belov/Potkin to the articles about DPNI and himself. Alaexis¿question? 21:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
In Russia it would usually be characterised as nationalist and (in the official sources after the verdict) extremist. Alaexis¿question? 21:53, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer. There is also this "Movement for the Protection of Peoples' Rights" that accuses the DPNI of "promoting racism, anti-Semitism, Nazi ideas". "The St. Petersburg prosecutor's office received a statement recognizing the Movement Against Illegal Migration (DPNI) as an extremist community, and their materials, including the official website and forum, as extremist materials.". Later the DPNI is effectively recognized as "extremist". I think this is also reliable.--Mhorg (talk) 22:33, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
This is something you might consider adding. Though the organisation that accused DPNI (Движения по защите прав народов) is pretty obscure and I can't even find their website, so I can't say if it can be considered reliable. Note that Pravda is the official newspaper of CPRF, so an attribution would probably be helpful. Alaexis¿question? 06:09, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
I also believe that the DPNI is a supremacist party or movement. But actually there is no trace of a source that speaks clearly about this. Maybe you could find something in Russian, but I think it is also a problem of common words, in Russia no reference is ever made to white supremacism, although the political proposal is the same: that is, that the white / Slavic race is superior. In Europe, something like this would be called "neo-Nazi" and "supremacist". But until you find a source stating that, you can't write that thing.--Darkcloud2222 (talk) 16:19, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. I am fighting with a user who accuses me of Sockpuppetry and he\she is making a political war on the Navalny's discussion page. In the next few days I will dedicate myself to this exhausting research in Russian. Thank you again.--Mhorg (talk) 16:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • This is a defunct obscure far-right nationalist organization. So what?My very best wishes (talk) 17:54, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
It played a big role in Russia at that time, we have also other articles linked to the organization (Alexander Potkin, that I would like to expand these days, and the successor Russians_(organization)) and I would like to translate others from the Russian Wikipedia, such as Басманов, Владимир Анатольевич, it is also important because the same leaders, that now are still active: the russian marches continues, for example. I think the Russian nationalist movement is controversial and interesting at the same time, also due to its subversive and antigovernment role.--Mhorg (talk) 19:51, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
For now I have found the definition of "racist" on a Western RS. Now, however, I have to deal with a discussion on Navalny's page. As soon as I have time I go for Russian sources.--Mhorg (talk) 15:46, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Sure, you are very welcome to expand pages about DPNI and Plotkin. Just remember that convictions by Russian "courts" do not mean much. My very best wishes (talk) 18:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

FAR of St. Michael's Golden-Domed MonasteryEdit

I have nominated St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 02:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Liberal Democratic Party of RussiaEdit

There is a currently a discussion at Talk:Liberal Democratic Party of Russia#"Fascism" about whether the party should be characterised as "fascist". Mellk (talk) 12:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

That doesn't accurately depict the discussion going on, as that makes it sound like the debate is over the party being exclusively called Fascist. Rather, the debate is actually about whether there is enough reliable academic sources to add Fascism to the list of ideologies of the party in the infobox. Caretaker John (talk) 13:30, 23 February 2021 (UTC) Blocked sock. Mellk (talk) 01:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
In other words, characterising it as a fascist party. Mellk (talk) 13:33, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
You even added the category fascist parties, so yes, this is what is seems to be about to you. Mellk (talk) 13:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Excuse me, do not cast aspersions. The category Fascist parties was added as a consensus of editors agreed there was enough reliable sources to add Fascism to the list of party ideologies. If I wanted to exclusively describe the party as fascist, I would have removed all the other ideological positions like ultra-nationalism and statist and just put Fascism. Caretaker John (talk) 13:38, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Take a good read of WP:ASPERSIONS before accusing me of casting them. This is the third time you've improperly accused me of such. Characterising the party as fascist does not mean ultranationalism does not to apply to it or that it is "exclusively" fascist, whatever that means. Also, we are still in the process of establishing consensus. Mellk (talk) 13:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Curiously Caretaker John would rather follow me and argue here over semantics than to respond to me at the mentioned talk page with the discussion. Mellk (talk) 06:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Dolmens of North Caucasus#Requested move 11 February 2021Edit

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Dolmens of North Caucasus#Requested move 11 February 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 18:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Chronos EncyclopediaEdit

Hi Folks!! I'm running an RFC at the reliable sources noticeboard on the Chronos encyclopedia at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Chronos Encyclopeadia. If anybody has any thoughts on it, can they post it please? Here it is: [1]. Apparently it is being used on slightly more than 200 Wikipedia articles. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 11:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

FAR for AmchitkaEdit

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Kommersant has an RFCEdit

 

Kommersant has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Help with a strange Russian termEdit

Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_March_19#Category:Characters_of_the_Slavic_Cabinet_Mythology. Can someone check if this term is indeed used in Russian, and what does it translate to? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Women in Red Europe contestEdit

After successfully completing our Asia and Africa contests over the past six months, we now welcome contributions to our Women in Europe contest which runs for three separate months from April to June 2021. To qualify for the contest, articles have to contain at least 160 words or 1,000 characters of running text and participants need to be members of Women in Red. We look forward to lots of new biographies of women from Russia.--Ipigott (talk) 06:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

FAR noticeEdit

I have nominated Sviatoslav I for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 23:39, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

BarnstarEdit

Introducing the Russia Barnstar. Now if any one wants to have a national emblem on the barnstar, save the barnstar and upload your own file. Please do not overwrite mine, thanks. Jerm (talk) 04:44, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Proposed MoS addition on optional stress marking in Russian, Ukrainian, Japanese, Korean, etc.Edit

  FYI – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC?, for a proposal relating to optional characters/marks for indicating vocal stress, used in some foreign languages, include "ruby" characters for Japanese and Korean, and znaki udareniya marks in Ukrainian and Russian. The short version is that, based on a rule already long found in MOS:JAPAN and consonant with WP:NOTDICT policy, MoS would instruct (in MOS:FOREIGN) not to use these marks (primarily intended for pedagogical purposes) except in unusual circumstances, like direct quotation, or discussion of the marks themselves. Target date for implementation is April 21. PS: This does not relate to Vietnamese tone marks.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:40, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Proposed move at "Icon"Edit

Please comment there. Johnbod (talk) 01:13, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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