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Maria Da Rocha

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Redirect to List of Jersey women Twenty20 International cricketers as it fails WP:GNG. I am unable to find enough in-depth coverage of the subject to warrant a standalone article. JTtheOG (talk) 23:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  This article has sources including BBC, Jersey Evening Post and ESPNcricinfo and links to several other pages on Wikipedia. The subject is a player for the Jersey women's national cricket team with 19 caps including in a T20 world cup qualifying tournament. I was trying to create a complete set of pages for the Jersey women's cricket team excluding those players who have done nothing of note of course. Coverage of places such as Jersey is sparse so sources are often hard to come by. This does not make the subject matter irrelevant. Shrug02 (talk) 23:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: No significant coverage about this individual found. What's now used in the article is trivial coverage, name drops and twitter posts. I don't find anything we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 01:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete: Please also delete the following Jersey cricket players pages I created as this is obviously a subject matter unworthy of Wikipedia - Chloe Greechan, Patrick Gouge, Charlie Brennan, Nia Greig, Trinity Smith, Scott Simpson, Grace Wetherall, Analise Merritt, Charlie Miles, Mia Maguire, Georgia Mallet, Erin Gouge, Erin Duffy, Lily Greig, Florence Tanguy, Aimee Aikenhead, Florrie Copley

  Shrug02 (talk) 12:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Many of those look potentially notable (worthy of an article) – I wouldn't have them all deleted just out of being upset over this one being potentially deleted. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the kind words (it is truly appreciated and nice to read) but I'm just getting ahead of the curve. While other reviewers have seen no issue with any of them it seems I have fallen foul of one that sees no value in small places or sports not popular in certain parts of the world. I'm just saving them the time of hunting down my articles so they can have them removed. Shrug02 (talk) 17:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  I would ask you to focus on the content and not the contributor. If I "see no value in small places or sports not popular in certain parts of the world," why would most of my article creations be focused on exactly that? JTtheOG (talk) 19:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  I have no idea what articles you have created. I am only replying to someone who commented that my work had value. I'm more interested in adding to knowledge rather than removing it. I would rather not engage further with you as I found last night's interaction distressing enough. Thank you. Shrug02 (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Preethi (name)

Preethi (name) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Same listing exists at Preeti. Jax 0677 (talk) 23:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: and replace the section within Preeti to a see also. Alternatively. split Preeti between the article about the name and the disambiguation links. Or replace Preethi (name) with a redirect. The article should not be deleted. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:40, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  • Reply - I have no objection to redirecting Preethi (name) to Preeti. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep and revert the recent addition of adding "Preethi" to the "Preeti" name page. Unless sources show these are the same name they should be treated as separate. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Most sources on the internet seem to indicate that Preeti and Preethi are related, though I'm not sure how many are reliable. In the instance that they are, I'd probably agree with Eastmain's proposal to redirect Preethi to Preeti. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 20:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Michael Larson

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WP:BLP1E. Jax 0677 (talk) 23:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Merge with Press Your Luck scandal. Per WP:BLP1EWP:BIO1E there should not be two separate articles. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect as all of the reliable sources and verifiable content at Michael Larson has already been incorporated into Press Your Luck scandal. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

*keep BLP1E does not apply. He is not alive. And the article has substantial information about him beyond his winning strategy. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• An additional comment: Since Jax 0677 has decided in a somewhat idiosyncratic way to express skepticism about the above (see edit history of this page), I'll note that the article has a whole section titled "Later life, death, and legacy." JoshuaZ (talk) 02:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC) Changing opinion to redirect. Fourthords's comments below are convincing. JoshuaZ (talk) 16:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  I assumed the nominator meant WP:BIO1E, which does apply. Also, all of this article's verifiable content (including the 11% not stemming from the PYL event) is already to be found at the article about the overall event—Press Your Luck scandal. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 02:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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Disagreement

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Non notable topic Jax 0677 (talk) 22:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Comment this is a one-line WP:DICTDEF because nobody could agree on a redirect target. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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Carolinas Sports Entertainment Television

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Fails WP:GNG; no sources; notable only on local level. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 22:24, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment Outright deletion does not seem necessary, since this could at least be a redirect to one of several articles (like Charlotte Hornets, where the network is already discussed in the media coverage section). The basic facts of the network's existence are easily verifiable by a quick look in Google Books. I suspect that this article does have potential beyond a redirect, since the network served a major media market and carried an NBA team, albeit briefly. Zagalejo (talk) 01:28, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: There appears to be enough coverage to support a standalone article on the subject, such as [[1]], [[2]], [[3]], [[4]], and [[5]] just for starters. I'd say this meets the WP:GNG, but at the very least this should be redirected. Let'srun (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

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Table Mountain Challenge

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I found no significant coverage per WP:N. SL93 (talk) 22:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Only helpful source is this one, which is still not enough to establish WP:GNG. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 22:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Aimee Aikenhead

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Redirect to List of Jersey women Twenty20 International cricketers as I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 22:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  This article has sources including BBC, Jersey Evening Post and ESPNcricinfo and links to several other pages on Wikipedia. The subject is a player for the Jersey women's national cricket team with 11 caps including in a T20 world cup qualifying tournament. What is the problem with it? Shrug02 (talk) 22:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Shrug02: How many of those include significant coverage of the subject? The number of caps and/or competitions played are not relevant. JTtheOG (talk) 22:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I have added more information and sources as discussed with you. I was trying to create a complete set of pages for the Jersey women's cricket team excluding those players who have done nothing of note of course. Coverage of places such as Jersey is sparse so sources are often hard to come by. This does not make the subject matter irrelevant. I see you have now nominated a second of my pages for deleting and no doubt the rest will follow. I don't understand all these terms and abbreviations being used and I can't imagine I'll save them from deleting. I have worked for many hours to create these pages and in good faith. I will now stop. Thank you. Shrug02 (talk) 23:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Please also delete the following Jersey cricket players pages I created as this is obviously a subject matter unworthy of Wikipedia - Chloe Greechan, Patrick Gouge, Charlie Brennan, Nia Greig, Trinity Smith, Scott Simpson, Grace Wetherall, Analise Merritt, Charlie Miles, Mia Maguire, Georgia Mallet, Erin Gouge, Erin Duffy, Lily Greig, Florence Tanguy, Maria Da Rocha, Florrie Copley

Shrug02 (talk) 12:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Many of those look potentially notable (worthy of an article) – I wouldn't have them all deleted just out of being upset over this one being potentially deleted. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the kind words (it is truly appreciated and nice to read) but I'm just getting ahead of the curve. Also, as you will have now seen as you've commented on both, it is not just one article that is being deleted. While other reviewers have seen no issue with any of them it seems I have fallen foul of one that sees no value in small places or sports not popular in certain parts of the world. I'm just saving them the time of hunting down my articles so they can have them removed. Shrug02 (talk) 17:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

André Manuel (rugby union)

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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. The closest I found to WP:SIGCOV was probably this. JTtheOG (talk) 21:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. A merge can be an alternative to deletion, but an AfD cannot pick it as an alternative to keeping the article. Without a single !vote to delete, including the nom, no action can be taken here. Proposed mergers should take place on the article's Talk page. Owen× ☎ 12:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Manx Aviation and Military Museum

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Merge Fails to meet WP:GNG. Should be included in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castletown,_Isle_of_Man#Places_of_interest Wikilover3509 (talk) 09:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to Castletown,_Isle_of_Man#Places_of_interest as a viable AtD. Star Mississippi 15:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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• Comment, requests for article mergers should not be started at AfDs. A proposed merger nomination should've been the correct way to nominate this article since you are asking for a merge. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep there are some press references [6] [7] [8] and books [9] etc. There's too much content here, with the prospect of adding more, to merit the proposed merge elsewhere where this museum would then overly dominate the other article, in my opinion. Plus it's inclusion in Template:British Aviation Museums seems reasonable and would be less well achieved following a merge. _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 18:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is an article about a museum run by volunteers, with scope over a self-governing territory, therefore we can assume WP:NONPROFIT applies. With the secondary sourcing both in the article and identified by @UkPaolo, I agree meets notability guidelines. Keep. ResonantDis_tortion 10:11, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep This is notable. What's missing here is a lead paragraph to inform us how this got established, and what the museum's focus is. There's several categories of military museums around the world. Improve, don't delete. — Maile (talk) 15:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Keep. ‹hamster717🐉› ^{(discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠)} 02:49, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

• Merge to Castletown, Isle of Man#Places of interest as an alternative to deletion. Most sources referring to the article do not talk about the museum in depth, there is a lack of secondary sources as most sources are primary sources, and the linked book does not talk enough about the subject. So all in all, the sources do not justify the subject's notability. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep More than enough sources listed above to establish notability. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Keep - A museum is an institution dedicated to preserving culturally significant objects, and I think almost all should be considered notable, even with few and little sources. Mr Vili talk 06:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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Romy Tiongco

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The article does not meet the notability guidelines of WP:POLITICIAN TheNuggeteer (talk) 13:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. I think the two programmes on the BBC all about him and the first of these and its report his on him were what led me to start this page and think him notable enough - perhaps via general notability rather than as a politician per se. A political activist, NGO worker and then politician (Msrasnw (talk) 17:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC))

  • Comment - maybe you should find more sources, only 2 out of the 7 sources work.

  TheNuggeteer (talk) 00:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  If there are 2 "working" sources, that should be enough for WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  One of the sources is a video source which does not work anymore, is one source okay? TheNuggeteer (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  Our "policy" on this is WP:LINKROT, and it being dead should not be taken against the article, more so if the reference is more than a decade old.

  So no, your premise of this article having just one source doesn't hold. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete I did a WP:BEFORE search outside of the sources in the article and can't find anything which suggests to me that the article passes WP:GNG. The non-working links do not necessarily suggest there was secondary coverage of him, either - the magazine just has a wordpress site and the BBC radio bit is an interview, which are not secondary. SportingFlyer T·C 17:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Social policies of Phyllis Schlafly

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Majority of article comes from WP:PRIMARY sources. Relevant info can be merged into Phyllis_Schlafly#Viewpoints but there isn't enough to justify its own article. मल्ल (talk) 14:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• delete - no independent reliable sources for the subject. - Altenmann >talk 19:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment I see a number of books listed as references, Feminism and the New Right and such. These are all primary sources? I wouldn't think that the political policies of one activist would merit an article separate from the article about that person, but if people have seen fit to write this much about them... It looks like the issue is notability. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete She herself is clearly notable and significant, but this page does not meet Wiki requirements for the additional focus on policies. Go4thProsper (talk) 12:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep or merge This is an appropriate subarticle of Phyllis_Schlafly#Viewpoints. While primary sources are not prohibited from this type of page, there are also independent sources for appropriate coverage. If a standalone article is not appropriate, the main article should be expanded with some of this. Reywas92^Talk 15:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Almost entirely sourced from Schlafly's own book. Her Wikipedia bio Phyllis Schlafly does a much better and concise coverage of her life and political advocacy, and is appropriately sourced. — Maile (talk) 23:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Democratic Renewal Initiative – New Democracy Student Movement

Democratic Renewal Initiative – New Democracy Student Movement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Merge to New Democracy (Greece). On its own it fails WP:NORG, as the student wing of New Democracy it adds value to that article. Disputed draftification 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 11:25, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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Author note:

I will try to find some time to expand the article over the following days. For the time being, I would just like to mention that there has been a seperate article about it in the Greek wikipedia for years: https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%94%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B5%CF%89%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%A0%CF%81%CF%89%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%AF%CE%B1_-_%CE%9D%CE%AD%CE%B1_%CE%94%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%A6%CE%BF%CE%B9%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%9A%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B7 .

As a new wikipedia member, I am not very familiar with criteria and processes. However, since there is a seperate page for it in the Greek wikipedia (it has not been merged with the New Democracy party greek page), I think that there should also be a seperate equivalent page in the English wikipedia. In my opinion, expanding the article is the way to go, not merging it.

(So I would vote for KEEP, while expanding it at the same time.)

ArchidamusIII (talk) 18:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment @ArchidamusIII I would have moved it to Draft, but see WP:DRAFTIFY which says I cannot. I do not feel that drafification is appropriate, or would have suggested it. The Greek language Wikipedia has different standards. The English language version has the most stringent. Existence of an article in one is no guarantee that is suitable for the other or another, not is any precedent set between language versions. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment

Thanks for the information!

I just added 15 cases-events that attracted media attention (in table form). By media I mean media that are reputable in Greece. In all honesty, I think that Democratic Renewal Initiative – New Democracy Student Movement should definitely meet the notability criteria. A quick google search with δαπ νδφκ as keywords (its Greek abbreviation) yields numerous results.

I will try to expand the article more over the following days. There is a lot of material available, so it is hard for me to cover everything. My original goal was to establish a short article and then let others slowly add details.

ArchidamusIII (talk) 00:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Merge - per nominator.

TheNuggeteer (talk) 08:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - national student wing of one of main parties in Greece, had major role in national student body elections (which is a very important event in Greek politics). Whilst the article might need some editing, its not a candidate for Draftify. --Soman (talk) 12:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

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Layle Delo

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Poorly sourced South African rugby union player. I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 21:17, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Carreg yr Halen

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Not enough significant coverage - I could only find this article; everything else is trivial mentions when discussing Menai Bridge. While its location is sourced, that doesn't make it notable, and the rest of the information in the article is unsourced and I can't find it anywhere else, so is probably original research. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 18:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep a number of local sources exist and are quoted. The island marked one of the important ferry crossimg location of the Menai Strait before the suspension bridge was constructed. Meets the standard of WP:GEONATURAL.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   18:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep, per WP:NATFEAT. - Altenmann >talk 19:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
• Merge with Menai Strait: seems to be the best idea... For the dozen or so lines of text now in the article. Oaktree b (talk) 20:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Merge to Menai Bridge. This little outcrop of rock clearly has more significance to the town than to the body of water, but that significance doesn't become notability because of WP:INHERITED. Claims of being an important crossing point would meet the mark if there was any verifiable sigcov of this fact, but I don't believe there has been. Doesn't meet GEOLAND, is a tiny tidal island in the middle of nowhere, insufficient content to be its own article. BrigadierG (talk) 20:48, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

• leaning delete It's not clear that the claims of the article are true. The cite for the ferry fails verification, and really I have to doubt the utility of a tiny, bare island in such a service. If we have to have something I would to go with the strait, but don't see a merger of a likely inaccurate article. Mangoe (talk) 22:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Fermor (Russian nobility)

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Nonnotable RUssuan family tagged since 2019. BAsically unreferenced. - Altenmann >talk 19:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Lars Bern

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I am nominating this article for deletion because of persistent issues that have not been addressed despite discussions on the talk page. The main concerns include: - **POV (Point of View) Issues**: The article heavily reflects the claims and views of the biographed person without sufficient neutral coverage. - **Lack of Reliable Sources**: The content relies predominantly on sources that do not meet Wikipedia's reliability standards. - **Notability Concerns**: The subject does not meet the general notability guideline as the article lacks significant coverage from independent, reliable sources. - **Content Focus**: The article focuses more on claims made by the person rather than providing a balanced biographical account, which is a core requirement for biographical articles on Wikipedia. These issues combined lead to the conclusion that the article may not be suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form.

Looking into the bibliography at least four of them seems to be self-published, or published on "print-on-demand" publishing companys."Recito":

"Recito is an innovative publisher specializing in small print runs and making the publishing world accessible to authors. We work closely with our authors to create wonderful books, and because we are experts in small print runs, we can test the market with each book without having to predict the future or risk mistakenly rejecting a manuscript." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franke1281 (talk • contribs) 09:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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Alhaqeqa Aldawlia

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Satellite TV channel based in Jordan that fails WP:NCORP. No independent secondary sourcing at all that I can find; the sources in the article are either database sources (Lyngsat, Jordanian government databases) excluded for notability by WP:ORGCRIT or fail verification entirely. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment. The editor who created this article has declared a conflict of interest with this subject so we must be especially vigilant to validate notability here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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Pandolfini Italian Culinary Academy

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I found no significant coverage per WP:CORP. SL93 (talk) 22:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Doesn't meet WP:NCORP. It's actually a WP:A7 candidate - any importance of the palace is a case of WP:NOTINHERITED, and there's no claim to notability as a (private culinary) school, noting the application of WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES to schools of significant size but not sizable significance. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 06:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete as per above comment, this should have been a case of CSD A7. The article does not make any claims of significance about the school. I could not find any (passing or in-depth) coverage in reliable sources to fulfill WP:GNG. Broc (talk) 09:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. No evidence of notability under any standard. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:01, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

The Bitter Dawn

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Article has zero references since 2007, and unable to find comprehensive, in-depth coverage of this specific film. Article was created on 23 September 2007; Prod on 12 October 2007; then first AfD on 28 August 2010 here along with a group of additional articles. JoeNMLC (talk) 20:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. No sources available whatsoever, in English anyway, to establish WP:GNG or WP:NFILM. (If Persian sources are found ping me.) The 2010 AfD was a significantly flawed discussion not driven by policy-related arguments. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Salman Muqtadir

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Sources are trivial (included in a list of other youtubers) and non-independent. One significant coverage is about his investigation by the police. No other significant independent secondary source covering his popularity as a content creator. - AlbeitPK (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Most of the sources cover the police investigating him. That is not enough to satisfy WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: An article that doesn't meet WP:ENT for inclusion on Wikipedia. While I couldn't find any clue in the former AFDs that I still hold deep breath of how it had survived two–three discussions. I am not going to base in any past whatsoever but here is the source analysis and final conclusion. source 1 is a primary source but it verifies the content as used in most of the articles like that per WP:PRIMARYSOURCE. Source 2 is good for sourcing but doesn't support the 'wife marriage'. source 3 is an obvious advert and interview making me suspect the credibility/reliability of source 2. Source 4 is unreliable, and source 5 looks like an advertorial unverifiable publication. Source 6, source 7, and source 8 contributes to a non notable controversy and I call it WP:BLP1E because the said event is not notable for a standalone article. [10] and [11] supports a non notable film and book, hence doesn't meet WP:NACTOR or WP:NAUTHOR. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Not a notable person Md Joni Hossain (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Previously I nominated this article for Afd and my view still same. There is no WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:GNG. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:56, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Article has been improved and more reliable sources are added, such as The Daily Star or Prothom Alo. Popular national reliable newspapers claim that Salman Muqtadir is a popular YouTuber and actor and there are a bunch of sources about him from reliable sites. Although some news are about his marriage or other things but they are published independently about him and declared him as YouTuber, influencer or actor. Therefore GNG has been able to establish. Ontor22 (talk) 12:03, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  The Daily star tag link you showed popped paid/sponsored articles [12], [13], [14], and [15]. They doesn't credibly means this article won't met notability later. See WP:LOTSOFSOURCES and know there isn't any amount of sources you add to a non notable person to be notable. On the aspect scene of YouTube, famous people are celebrities bur that doesn't mean try are notable. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 18:58, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

  News from The Daily Star are not paid or sponsored articles at all. Other news channels including Daily Star use disclaimers on sponsored articles but these are not. His marriage news appeared in multiple news channels.

  See his marriage news from Prothom alo, Dhaka Tribune, The Business Standard.

  Older articles about him also show his prominence.

  See these article from Prothom Alo 1 2, Bangla Tribune, The Business Standard, Jagonews24

  Salman Muktadir is not only YouTuber but also worked in various entertainment fields including television, stage performance which established his notability based on WP:ENT. Ontor22 (talk) 06:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - He is notable on YouTube as an influencer & content creator. but doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:ENT for inclusion on Wikipedia.--DelwarHossain (talk) 11:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep - He is notable person. I agree with Ontor22. Yubrajhn (talk) 19:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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List of NFL Network Exclusive Game Series results (2006–present)

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This is a failure of WP:SALAT as these games aren't covered as a group elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 20:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Cullen Large

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fails WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 00:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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A very easy keep. This biography clears GNG and NSPORTS by more than a lot of sports bios I've seen here. There is WP:SIGCOV in The Province, Baseball America, and Sportsnet, all of which are WP:SIRS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Note that Sportsnet is owned by Rogers Communications, which also owns the Toronto Blue Jays, the organization that had Large at the time that article was written. Let'srun (talk) 15:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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• Weak delete I created this article as a redirect to Toronto Blue Jays minor league players, but I don't think Large is notable enough for a standalone article. The Baseball America reference is a general stat page that all minor league prospects have. In my opinion we only have 2 refs contributing towards notability in terms of SIGCOV (The Province & Sportsnet). If more SIGCOV is found I do think that the article should probably be kept. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

  The Baseball America link is an article, not a stats page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: This subject meets the WP:GNG because of independent WP:SIGCOV from Baseball America and The Province, which each provides in-depth coverage of the subject. Let'srun (talk) 15:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
• Delete never made the majors, coverage is sparse and routine. Non-notable minor league baseball player. SportingFlyer T·C 02:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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Down-ball

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Searches for a reliable WP:RS fail. The term is absent in Google Scholar and Books, on the Web used to describe particular situation in handball and the Four square game, but never in this context. The description on the site of Melbourne University [16] appears to be a typo: the detailed rules (under "At School 05") do not describe any wall use (it seems that the previous short text is a result of a mix-up, the game with a wall is described elsewhere: "Wall ball"). The other source [17] clearly states that down ball is Four square on p. 40 Викидим (talk) 19:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

WP:PROD was objected to by Rockycape. See his objections on User talk:Rockycape#Proposed deletion of Down-ball. Викидим (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Викидим - I think your position would benefit by consideration of the context of schoolyard games more generally. Schoolyard games such as Down-ball are primarily passed down to new generations in the schoolyard and are generally not recorded in the literature or on the web to a large extent like main stream sports for example. To be a useful contributor to the Down-ball wikipedia page I would ask that you change your approach from being a sceptic and pushing for deletion to helping to find better references whether they be in the literature or on the web. I'll certainly be working to find better references myself. Down-ball deserves a page on wikipedia as a schoolyard game enjoyed by many school kids today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockycape (talk • contribs) 01:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Four square. I find no evidence that down-ball as an independent concept refers to anything other than the popular recess game. The article uses the two sources to say the game is distinct from four square, but the University of Melbourne source makes no reference to four square and the "Play and Folklore" source (whose discussion of down-ball is based on the Melbourne source) specifically says down-ball is "also called Four-square." Additional sources indicate that this term is indeed just another name for four square; see Susemihl and Tsolidis. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Fred Roy Krug

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Looking at the criteria listed at WP:NPRODUCER (and performing WP:BEFORE pre-requisite searches) I think this individual's article fails to meet the criteria. I suggest deletion at this time. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 19:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Dwaram Bhavanarayana Rao

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This seems to be a case of WP:INHERITED notability, given people largely talk about him in relation to his father. I can't check two of the sources here (and one is a WP:NOBITS) but the one I could find, as well as my searches of the internet returned no new sources for WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 19:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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List of Internet phenomena in Pakistan

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WP:SYNTH - Fails GNG. Those suggesting to keep this article must substantiate with evidence from RS that these listed "phenomena" are indeed are "Internet phenomena in Pakistan." Also delete per @Arms & Hearts, who stated here given the existence of List of Internet phenomena and the fact that the internet, by its very nature, isn't affected by national boundaries, this seems unnecessary. Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep meets WP:NLIST. Direct and in-depth coverage in Dawn ([18]), Hindustan Times ([19]), Times of India ([20]), NPR ([21]), Proft by Pakistan Today ([22]), Youlin ([23]). Additional coverage in academic journals ([24], [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32]). Saqib, we're here to WP:BUILDWP, not to destroy. AFDs with lacking proper WP:BEFORE are becoming common in your case. Combined with the fact that you rarely vote to keep ([33]), it shows how ardent a deletionist you are and how much damage is being done with these bad nominations. I have question: how many times you have rescued a topic that was up for deletion but was kept due to your proper BEFORE. I don't think there are many you can show us. Please stop nominating these borderline notable topics or someone has to ask admins to stop this. 2A04:4A43:8F7F:FCB8:465:8EEC:4116:BE64 (talk) 12:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
  • Hello IP - the article is titled Internet phenomena in Pakistan but the coverage you provided are primarily focus on some memes and the provided coverage doesn't even mention Internet phenomena in Pakistan so please just avoid WP:FAKE, as well WP:SYNTH, like i said before. Additionally, I can understand your frustration with my AFDs, so if you believe a t/ban is warranted, I encourage you to raise it at the appropriate forum, not in AFDs. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:20, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Organisation of Serbian Students Abroad

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All right, I'm calling it here, this article seems to fail WP:NORG. It has little more than 2 articles (thus failing WP:GNG) covering the society and even these seem hardly more than rehashes of routine meetings and press releases. Allan Nonymous (talk) 19:17, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Nosurahu

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Fails WP:GNG. Struggling to find 3 sources not some WMF project or copying off it, not 1 source of in-depth coverage at all. Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 19:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Redirect to List of islands of Estonia. Actually many one-sentence articles in Category:Islands of Estonia should be redirected to the aforementioned list--Estopedist1 (talk) 14:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Swadhin Axom

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Fails WP:GNG. Kautilya3 (talk) 18:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  Delete/Repurpose Dratify EDIT: vote changed since one source shows potential, see below;/ @Flyingphoenixchips, moving the discussion here in the appropriate discussion channel. The movement for an independent Assam might pass WP:GNG and be worth an article. However, it should be an article about the movement, not a proposed state- and it needs to be supported by sources that talk about "Swadhin Axom" as an idea specifically rather than as an alternative name for Assam used by those who want independence. If you believe there are many sources in Google, then WP:DOIT and fix this article. We don't do original research on wikipedia. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 18:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Hey thanks, the sources I mentioned do support it as an idea, and not as an alternative name. All sources are listed in the reference page. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  In no way was the article I have written am original research. Additionally many such articles on proposed states exist, and a separate category in wikipedia exists as well. Will those pages be deleted or just this, since its against a particular POV Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Swadhin Axom was never used as an alternate name for assam. Swadhin means Independent and the proposed independent state is just refered to as Assam or Axom- both are the same literals. Swadhin axom is used by academics to describe this proposed state. Ref: Prafulla Mohonto, Proposal for Independence. Would suggest you to read it Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  To maintain neutrality, would suggest editing existing articles based on your arguments, using credible sources, instead of plain WP:I just don't like it. Wikipedia should never become a battleground of political ideologues. If you read the article its neutral, you can add additional pointers in the article, if you have sources for the same. Thanks Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Don't accuse me baselessly of just not liking it.

  You mentioned a google search, another wikipedia article and its sources on the Talk page- that's not enough when the question is whether "Swadhin Axom" as a concept should be a WP:CONTENTFORK from Assam. Wikipedia's neutrality policy is not about giving equal weight to every political opinion. It also doesn't say that we should have a different article for every political way of looking at something.

  Sources and GNG

  Now let's look at the actual sources in this article:

  • Source 1 - Ivy Dhar has extensive discussion of the idea of Swadhin Axom, specifically in relation to the ULFA and nationalism
  • Source 2 - Nipon Haloi only mentions it once
  • Source 3 - Dutta & Laisram only mention it once
  • Source 4 - Udayon Misra only mentions it once
  • Source 5 - Not only does Santana Khanikar only mention it once (outside of the glossary), she proceeds to call the proto-state as simply the ULFA instead of Swadhin Axom.
  • Source 6 - Swadhin Axom is only mentioned as part of the title of a speech
  • Source 7 - Does not mention it
  • Source 8, 9 and 10 - Does not mention it- all about the 1970s Assam Movement
  • Source 11 - Does not mention it
  • Source 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 - Does not mention it, not even in the entire book of Source 17. These are all about the 1970s Assam Movement
  • Source 18 - cannot access myself but also looks like a book entirely about the Assam Movement
  • Source 19, 20, 21, 22 - Does not mention it
  • etc. etc.

  Now, I couldn't keep going through the remaining 40+ sources but this is only to highlight one issue: the article doesn't really meet WP:GNG standards. Not every sources need to meet WP:GNG, but there should be at least one to establish that the article is notable. Source 1 is a good source for this article, and there may be more in the 40+ citations I couldn't get to.

  However, I would still delete this article and draftify it (I changed my vote) because:

  WP:V - Verifiability

  Just from the first 20, I suspect a lot of these sources were thrown on there because they came up in the Google Scholar search for "Swadhin Axom". Wikipedia requires that the content be verified based on the content of the sources. We don't do original research by giving our own analysis of the source.

  For specific example, let's take the sentence "Figures like Bishnu Prasad Rabha, a multifaceted artist and social reformer, Tarun Ram Phukan, a prominent political leader, and Prafulla Kumar Mahanta, a key figure in the Assam Movement and a former Chief Minister of Assam, have played crucial roles in advancing the cause of Swadhin Axom" It's supported by Sources 14-18. If you will recall from my list above, these are all about the 1970s Assam Movement that don't mention the idea of Swadhin Axom. If Swadhin Axom is really not just a local name for the English phrase 'independent Assam', then you would need a source to connect Swadhin Axom and the Assam Movement, instead of providing the original analysis that the Assam Movement was an important part of the Swadhin Axom proposed state.

  I will reiterate that I think that the article Assamese nationalism would make more sense for the sources you are using. If the article is just about providing more WP:NPOV perspectives about Assam- those should go in the Assam article. If this article is supposed to be about a proposed state it needs to show that the proposed state is a proposed state. From what I see, it might be better focused on the ULFA explicitly, their governing structures etc. In its current state, this article is not fit for mainspace. And it's not because WP:IDONTLIKEIT. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 00:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you for your careful work in checking all the sources. But I am not convinced that the single source (Ivy Dhar) that you mention can save the article. First of all, the source is a Master's thesis, which is normally not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. Secondly, it is only a small section (4.04) that discusses the concept, and it does so in the context of Assamese nationalism and most of the section deals with ULFA, both of which already have their own pages on Wikipedia. I don't agree that this source establishes "Swadhin Axom" as an independent topic that merits its own page. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Yes- I'm saying that it can be draftified and potentially reworked into an article actually about the specific idea- based on assuming good faith that maybe one of the 40 sources I didnt check have something useful. Not particularly opposed to deletion, and if there are no other sources this should be a section of Assamese nationalism as you propose.

  A master's thesis is a reliable source- the policy you link to cautions against blimdly accepting since many theses do original research and are therefore sometime primary sources. But that's not the case here where the author is describing existing sentiment, not coming up the idea of Swadhin Axom outright. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 15:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Most of the article is WP:SYNTH. United Liberation Front of Asom could be a redirect target ... but this title is misspelled (Axom instead of Asom). Walsh90210 (talk) 04:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Corey Makelim

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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this rugby league player to meet WP:GNG. There are a couple of interviews available (1, 2), but nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV. JTtheOG (talk) 18:02, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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CJ Cortalano

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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this rugby league player to meet WP:GNG. The most I found was coverage of his high school wrestling days. JTtheOG (talk) 17:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Keep - Pro footballer who played at the 2017 RLWC. Fleets (talk) 11:54, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

As you know, participation-based criteria for athletes were deprecated in 2022. Biographies of living persons require strong sourcing. JTtheOG (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Elnur Aslanov

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• Delete' being a department manager cannot make a person directly encyclopedic.--Correspondentman (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep - The article has many sources, enough for Wikipedia:GNG, even searching for him unloads possible sources.

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• Keep plenty of references. Jake Wartenberg (talk) 19:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Sepiol

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No real indication of notability, only sources are routine 'match reports' on poker news sites and a stats database. Doesn't meet WP:NBIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep World Championship win + bracelet win should merit inclusion. Now satisfactory backed up. PsychoticIncall (talk) 10:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

  @PsychoticIncall: As I've asked in other AFDs, please read and understand WP:SIRS and then list WP:THREE references you feel are SIRS. WP:BURDEN is on you to prove notability, not just assert it through non-policy means (which is what you are attempting). - UtherSRG (talk) 14:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

And again - the sources are all there backing up the main statement probably even more obvious than ever before (Las Vegas Review Journal isn't just providing routine match reports). PsychoticIncall (talk) 11:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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Sardar Khan Niazi

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The BLP clearly falls short of meeting the GNG as well NJOURNALIST - It was previously nominated for deletion back in 2017, but it survived due to insufficient participation. The only participant who voted to keep it was a sock account who provided no strong sourcing based on GNG. The sockpuppet also claimed that the subject had received one award. However, per WP:NBIO, receiving a single award does not automatically guarantee that a subject should get a WP BLP. Saqib (talk) 11:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep meets WP:ANYBIO#2 - he has received Tamgha-i-Imtiaz for his work. Editor-in-chief of a number of licensed newspapers, founder of a PEMRA-licensed TV station is enough to show his notability. 2400:ADC7:5101:2500:B17C:9657:E301:EFD4 (talk) 22:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

In the last nomination, @Lourdes: shared a good rationale to keep this article. 2400:ADC7:5101:2500:B17C:9657:E301:EFD4 (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Sachi Baat SK Niazi k Sath should be a redirect to this article. 2400:ADC7:5101:2500:B17C:9657:E301:EFD4 (talk) 22:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

IP - I guess I pointed out that per WP:NBIO, receiving a single award does not automatically guarantee that a subject should get a WP BLP. Similarly, positions such as "Editor-in-chief of a number of licensed newspapers, founder of a PEMRA-licensed TV station" do not inherently establish WP:N or automatically justify a WP BLP. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Failed WP:GNG. No in-depth coverage. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

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Wesean Student Federation

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Fails WP:GNG. Kautilya3 (talk) 17:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom; not a notable organization. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable. Raymond3023 (talk) 11:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Wesea (Western SouthEast Asia)

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Fails WP:GNG. Kautilya3 (talk) 17:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  Delete or Draftify The sources here don't really talk about ""Wesea"". For example, the page uses a lot of content broadly about Zomia, which passes WP:GNG. I can assume good faith on some of the paper sources, but I know a few of them don't mention "Wesea" at all. There needs to be a lot more work to make a page about the idea of Wesea using reliable sources and this article just isn't ready for wikipedia mainspace yet. EmeraldRange (talk/contribs) 18:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Comment If kept, it should be moved to Wesea, as the base title does not exist and the current title misuses the parenthetical for an acronym. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_21#Category:Wesean_National_Leaders is related to this AfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete I don't see any evidence that any of the sources use this term. It is not made up by the article creator, but all the sources I can find are referring to rebel militant groups (Times of India discussing a group). Walsh90210 (talk) 00:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Michel Shamil Orloff

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Previous draftified by Wikishovel and I — returned to mainspace without any improvements that show notability. Essentially a WP:MILL business person. No SNGs apply here and there is no independent, significant coverage in reliable sources. A Google search only returns his Linkedin and a Google News search returns nothing at all. I've manged to find one 2008 NYT article (referenced in the article) which trivially mentions his name once in a quote/interview and that's it. C F A 💬 17:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nomination. See this discussion at SPA article creator's user talk, and their subsequent good faith disclosure at their user page. Initial version was full of original research, apparently sourced only by discussion with the client Mr. Orloff, which I cleared out three times. Wikishovel (talk) 06:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Abdirahman Ali

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The subject doesn't meet the notability criteria for an article. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Som Production (SP). Ae245 (talk) 17:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: per nom, WP:MILL business person - no significant independent coverage C F A 💬 17:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete does not pass WP:GNG, In the article the only secondary source is Somali Inside News, both articles from that source look like paid placement, and neither has WP:SIGCOV of the subject anyway. No GNG compliant sources apparent from searches either. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:44A3:EFF3:245F:594D (talk) 17:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Loch Lomond (Illinois)

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Fails WP:GNG. Small reservoir without significant, independent coverage to justify an article. SeymourHolcomb (talk) 16:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep‎. I unfortunately don't believe that this is likely to result in deletion at this point. This withdrawal doesn't foreclose future nominations, nor does this mean that I agree with any rationale presented here. (non-admin closure) HyperAccelerated (talk) 17:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Comparison of JavaScript-based source code editors

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This was dePRODed in 2010 for being a "possibly valid combination article" -- however, this article consists of original research (in particular, it features a user's feature testing), and cleaning that up would amount to blanking the page. I'm not sure if this topic is notable, but even if it is, we'd need to WP: STARTOVER here. HyperAccelerated (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment This is a muddle.

1. When you say "it features a user's feature testing" which user do you mean, and how did you determine the content was original research and not simply awaiting a supporting citation? Relevant diffs would be helpful.
2. The latest substantive addition ([34]) appears to be sourced. Is it not? How so?
3. The only editor you notified hasn't edited in over a decade. More productive I'd think to notify active editors who you say introduced WP:OR into the article, since that's your basis for your claim that the only alternative to deletion is blanking the page. If they disagree I'd like to know why.
4. You're "not sure this topic is notable"? Please explain then which of the other 13 reasons for deletion are germaine to this discussion, and how. Yappy2bhere (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep

1. WP:STARTOVER would waste tens of hours of work that have been put into this article.
2. You're not going to find much in terms of WP:RS citing whether a JavaScript editor supports feature X or Y.
3. This Wikipedia page is the most impartial, reliable, visible, and easy to find place to collaborate on this work. Please let those willing to put effort into it, do so. You're welcome to join and improve the article. -- Dandv 05:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: All of the reasons listed are not valid reasons for deletion — everything can be fixed through editing. We don't delete articles just because they are unsourced. WP:TNT is irrelevant here (and should not be used for cleanup reasons like this anyways) because everything here can easily be fixed: References can be added, unverifiable statements can be removed. This is not a BLP so not everything has to have an inline citation. And if we were to TNT this, who's going to recreate the better version, especially when this version is already written and detailed? This is completely pointless and I suggest the nominator withdraw. C F A 💬 15:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

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Safe Superintelligence Inc.

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Promotional B.S.; no evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Ilya Sutskever; while there are other co-founders the press coverage is clear that he is the primary instigator (CNBC, AP). And there is nothing other than that press release to be the topic of an article. Walsh90210 (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Ilya Sutskever: (and merge) WP:TOOSOON, essentially just WP:MILL press releases - no evidence of independent notability right now C F A 💬 17:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. As of now, even a redirect is premature. Announcements made a couple of days ago regarding future plans for a company that has done nothing yet belong in press releases, not encyclopaedias. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Straightforwardly not notable, at least not yet. Sustained coverage may occur later. StereoFolic (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep - It's obviously clear that it's notable because the company's incorporation has been extensively covered by at least a dozen highly reputable news organizations, such as Bloomberg, The Verge, Axios, CNN, AP News, CNBC, New York Times and others. The article is worthy and notable to exist merely as a stub. Redirect does not make sense, as other notable people are involved in the organisation, including former Apple AI lead, Daniel Gross (entrepreneur), and former OpenAI researcher Daniel Levy. Additionally, Ilya having co-founded OpenAI carries significant credibility Mr Vili talk 04:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  A brief flurry of news coverage from reliable sources does not indicate notability; see WP:SUSTAINED StereoFolic (talk) 12:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - It's been mentioned in many of the most reputable sources and the founders are very notable. If you don't keep it at least as a stub, then the Wikipedia pages about the founders have nothing to reference. It's just a gap in Wikipedia's coverage. Obviously if it's WP:TOOSOON, it can be deleted and added back later, but it seems wiser to leave it as a stub at this point. Kfein (talk) 04:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  The question as to whether it can be deleted is what is being discussed now. Saying it is discussed in sources does not help at AfD. We need to discuss the actual sources. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Ilya Sutskever. I don't see any evidence this meets GNG or NCORP; the coverage so far is enough to support inclusion on Sutskever's page but I found no in-depth coverage of the company beyond the announcement of its founding. I'd be open to reassessing if the editors arguing to keep would present some of the "extensive coverage" they are arguing exists; all I see is outlets picking up the press release on its founding, and every article I looked at was essentially the same as the two linked by Walsh90210. Since there is coverage with respect to Sutskever and the company is mentioned on his page already, I don't see any issue with a redirect. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 17:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  In my opinion, this organisation's founding has independent notability due to the events related to the temporary firing of sam altman leading up to the resignation of key people at OpenAI, such as Jan Leike and Ilya Sutskever

  Which are discussed in various sources including examples below:

  • https://www.ft.com/content/68cb9b1f-c3bb-4a90-a8b6-17b7e3ecd234
  • https://siliconangle.com/2024/06/19/openai-co-founder-ilya-sutskever-launches-startup-develop-safe-superintelligence/

  This isn't a routine company incorporation. There's a lot of history behind it that should be noted, as well as the other cofounders all having strong crediblity and notability themselves. I vote that the article remains a stub for the time being, or at worst case, drafted. A redirect here does not make sense. Mr vili talk 18:26, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  That isn't going to pass muster for an NCORP AfD. You are saying that the startup inherits notability from notaboe founders. It doesn't. Under NCORP we need WP:SIRS - significant coverage in independent reliable secondary sources. For significance you need to consider WP:CORPDEPTH which says Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  pretty much every news source is significantly covering the incorporation beyond WP:MILL, they are all talking about the history of events leading up to the incorporation which is not a usual scenario. Mr vili talk 18:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Ilya Sutskever - per my comment above. This startup does not meet WP:NCORP. The redirect is an acceptable AtD. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Michael Buckwald

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Eight months since the last AFD, and he's still a non-notable CEO of a notable company. Article is nearly identical to the previous version, apart from the new Time magazine interview. The rest is still just coverage of him in the context of his company, passing mentions, and interviews. G4 contested by SPA anon editor, likely the logged-out article creator. Strong aroma of UPE. Wikishovel (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete fairly obvious WP:REFBOMB with largely worthless non-WP:GNG compliant sources like [35] and [36]. Looking at the new sources since the last AFD not addressed by the nom [37] there is no WP:SIGCOV of the subject. I suppose every so often the UPEs will try again when they have new paid placements or references with passing mentions that can be added to game G4 but it is what it is. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:44A3:EFF3:245F:594D (talk) 17:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Leap Motion (the company he was formerly CEO of) does have an article; his current company (Torch Sensors) does as well (much more dubiously). There is a non-trivial amount of coverage from c.2013. The article needs cleanup, but I am undecided between keep, redirect, and delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walsh90210 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Šimon Kupec

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With only primary sources listed, the article of this men's footballer clearly fails WP:GNG. My Google searches are limited to database, match reports, and brief mentions in squad list. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nomination, I could not find anything outside of the aforementioned sources. Wiiformii (talk) 15:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 10:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Dana KCM

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Charitable foundation that doesn't seem to meet WP:NORG. Created 10 years ago by an account that did nothing else on Wikipedia, no content edits or inbound links have been made since. The references are two old, deleted newspaper articles simply repeating the foundation's press release. It really doesn't seem like the sort of coverage we'd need to write a decent article on this subject. Searching for other sources I just get social media hits suggesting this foundation might not have been active past 2015. Here2rewrite (talk) 13:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

There used to be one book reference, but I just deleted it because it didn't actually say what the article said that it did (it was just the authors of a study thanking the foundation for a grant in 1 sentence, and non-significant) Mrfoogles (talk) 14:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: I've conducted a search in books and news sources and couldn't find anything of value to justify inclusion per WP:NORG. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:56, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Marcello Bertinetti (fencer born 1952)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BLP. There is not enough coverage for this person in the article. Attempted to search for sources but did not come across any relevant. Normanhunter2 (talk) 13:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Sports biographies are subject to a heightened sourcing standard. See WP:SPORTBASIC prong 5: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." This one-sentence stub does not meet the standard. Cbl62 (talk) 16:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

SPORTBASIC, prong 5 now met. No opinion on whether it's enough for GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 16:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep I think the profile on Olympedia gives the WP:SIGCOV required. He was Italian champion and won a bronze medal at the 1973 Summer Universiade, see results. Broc (talk) 20:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Here [38] coverage of him on the national press La Stampa about becoming Italian épée champion. Some passing coverage: [39] [40] [41]

  Sources from 1976 are hard to find, that doesn't mean they don't exist... Broc (talk) 21:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Normanhunter2 did you look in Italian-language sources? Broc (talk) 21:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  The Olympia article is a dead link, it doesn't lead anywhere. I believe this article doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV either. Sourcing of BLPs have to be precise. The ones that Broc added seem to have more coverage of it, but is it significant enough to have the article stay on Wikipeida? Normanhunter2 (talk) 22:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Could you please elaborate on how the La Stampa article does not show WP:SIGCOV? This is an article on national press, entirely dedicated to the subject who just won the national tournament of his sport, detailing his previous career achievements and his personal life. Broc (talk) 06:15, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  On the personal life section, it says he studied at a university, this is too broad, and it won't stand even with a reference without a specific pinpoint of what university the person studied at.

  The newspaper link you've sent here is probably the only significance this person has on Wikipedia, nothing else. Normanhunter2 (talk) 18:17, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Can you explain what you mean by "it's too broad, it won't stand"? And how is the content of the page related to the notability of the subject? The article content does not determine notability, see WP:CONTN. Broc (talk) 21:22, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. Passes WP:GNG with an in-depth profile in Olympedia and in La Stampa as demonstrated above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Fleur Revell

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There's not much significant coverage of Fleur Revell published in multiple secondary and reliable sources. None of the conditions outlined in the notability guideline for creative professionals apply in her case. There are many articles that mention her in the context of her affair but it isn't significant coverage. She has supposedly won 3 Qantas awards yet there is no evidence of that online and the claim is unreferenced. There might be proof in print and not online since she probably received them in the 90's. If that cannot be proved, there is not much to base her notability on. Certainly not the affair. Ynsfial (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep Independent reliable sources with significant coverage exist but they are largely off-line publications from 1990s. I have added several such off-line citations.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: not enough significant coverage EncyclopediaEditorXIV (talk) 17:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep You don’t win three Qantas Media Awards without getting some attention. That happened at a time for which we have few online sources, though. Schwede66 19:12, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Delete, some of the sourcing amounts to OR. Interviews don't establish notability. Only source that can establish notability is this article: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/no-idea-what-next-for-fleur/NHVADVZ4KX5NZRLJFUHGB3PUBA/ The rest of the sources being not about her, interviews, or non-independent PR releases, and I fail to see GNG being met. I'd even argue the Qantas Media Awards fail GNG too, don't really see any independent coverage of that either. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Keep there is some relatively negative reporting around her relationship with Paul Holmes in a couple of national newspapers and her departure from New Idea is also covered. I think more work needs to be done researching her and agree with Swede's view that her attaining three Qantas Media awards, in itsself, is sufficient to meet notability. I accept that a reference to properly establish this is necessary but that will take some time and research as the papers of the time are not online. NealeWellington (talk) 22:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Note I removed poorly sourced content per WP:BLP, old version is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fleur_Revell&oldid=1230245045 Traumnovelle (talk) 21:18, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Antonia Gallegos

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Poorly sourced rhythmic gymnast. I could not find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 08:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Does not meet WP:NGYMNAST criteria and fails WP:NSPORTS without independent coverage. Sources in article are limited to competition results and a profile in her alma mater's publication (thus non-independent). Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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Sean Taylor (singer-songwriter)

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Doesn't meet WP:SINGER. Most references from same minor blog, some other interview on Google but all promotional. Orange sticker (talk) 08:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• weak keep: This [42] and this [43] cover this individual. Not the best sourcing, but should be fine. Oaktree b (talk) 12:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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INFINITT Healthcare

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Stub created by a paid account, seemingly no notability whatsoever. ahmetlii ^✉ _{(Please ping me on a reply!)} 08:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Weak delete: As a public KOSDAQ company, coverage exists. This would appear to scrape notability for companies, but sourcing I could locate is way too dependent on press releases such as https://www.arabnews.com/ejada-and-infinitt-forge-health-care-links. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 22:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Keep Needs searches in the Korean language. Try googling "인피니트헬스"; you get much more results. [44][45][46][47][48][49] I am mindful of the fact that the page is tainted by a paid creator, but it doesn't read excessively complimentary to me on a quick glance. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 11:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Karamaryan

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Appears to fail WP:GNG. Article previously soft-deleted, however no evidence of improvement. I share the concerns of the previous AfD as well, which stated "Article fails both WP:RELIABILITY and WP:VERIFY."Mdann52 (talk) 07:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment: Someone with good Russian might want to have a look into this document (I am assuming the language is Russian). Just to make sure we are not deleting an article about a battle that already happened just because the page creator did not bother to include references. Also have a look to the references at Military History Fandom. Bizarrely the page indicate that the "articles incorporating text from Wikipedia"! anyway the licence is good for Wikipedia but attribution is missing. FuzzyMagma (talk) 09:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• @FuzzyMagma: Fandom copied the article from us prior to deletion, and it was copied back across from there when the article was recreated. Took me a while to work that one out! Mdann52 (talk) 09:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete and speedy close I've checked the logs of the article and I have found it was initially created by a blocked account who is also a sockpuppet [50]. I have opened a SPI case [51]. Regardless of all of this, the article should be deleted because it was recreated by a non-WP:XC account so it does not comply with the restriction for this topic, WP:GS/AA. Vanezi (talk) 13:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Spartans Futsal Club

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No evidence of notability. Unable to locate independent reliable sources which discuss the subject in detail. C679 07:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 22:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 10:55, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thai Square

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG. WP:FAILN - organizations local to a city, town or country maybe added to respective article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London#Leisure_and_entertainment Wikilover3509 (talk) 7:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Village communities

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This article was created [52] as a copy of a 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica article and the Who Wrote That? tool shows that 89.1% of the current text is the same as 1911. What initially struck me as odd was the article's complete and total focus on Europe. The 1911 encyclopedia's explanation for why it was "sufficient to confine the present inquiry ... to nations of Aryan race" was "principally because the Aryan race in its history has gone through all sorts of experiences" (it also said that it "might also be reasonably urged" that the Aryan race was most important, yikes). The section explaining the Aryan focus was removed from the article in 2008, [53] and since then the total focus on Europe has been unexplained. So there are the content issues, and now here is why I think the best path forward is deletion. I thought about merging Village communities into Village but I do not consider any of the info in Village communities to be worthy of inclusion. I'm disconcerted by phrases like "we hear that" and "a good clue to the subject is provided by a Serb proverb" that suggest a tenuous relationship to verifiable fact. The 1911 Britannica might be a reliable source in articles like University court or Castle-guard, which deal with old European history, but I don't think it's a reliable source here. Plus even if I were to improve it, the content would overlap with the village article. Crunchydillpickle🥒 (talk) 23:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• Draft: ? I guess... This exists [54], [55] or [56]. Simply copying the text from an 100 yr old encyclopedia is a no-no. Two of these sources are older than the Britannica, one more recent. Oaktree b (talk) 00:18, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment It looks like the Theory of Village Communities was part of the study of the history of economics in the second half of the nineteenth century - this article by Denman Waldo Ross is an 1880 review describing various sources (not all in English, and many looking at non-European cultures, albeit from a colonial perspective). Maybe we should have an article about the theory, but it'd need to be more critical and better-sourced than the current article. Adam Sampson (talk) 00:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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• Delete While an article on the study of village communities may be suitable, this article on the study of village communities is not. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. WP:DEL-CONTENT importantly notes that when editing can address the reasons for deletion, we should edit the article to make it better instead of deleting it. This discussion has turned up adequate sourcing to write some article about village communities (or the economic theory thereof), and the article should of course be improved. But deletion here seems unwise. So too does draftification, as the article was uploaded here in 2006, and sending this to the draft heap as a backdoor to deletion seems ill-advised in light of relevant policies and guidelines. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete I'm not sure how this is a different topic than village (or, the history of villages). And none of the EB1911 content should be retained. Walsh90210 (talk) 00:51, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

2018–19 Oregon Battle of the Books controversy

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Clearly fails WP:EVENT. Local incident that had no lasting or widespread impact. The competition involved in this controversy (Oregon Battle of the Books) also appears to be non-notable. However, the incident is worthy of a short mention at Melissa (novel), so relevant information should be merged there. Astaire (talk) 04:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to Melissa (novel)#Reception, which seems to already have a subsection about this very controversy. I don't see independent notability in the controversy, and even if it were marginally notable I'd think it better to cover this article's subject in the context of a broader article where more context can be provided. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Merge to Melissa (novel) per above. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:34, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

James Thomas Fishback

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'Soft' deleted back in May, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Fishback.

No new developments as far as I can tell, still likely to fail WP:NBIO KH-1 (talk) 05:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Still not seeing notability, sourcing is PR items or non-RS. I don't find any other sources we can use, SALT so this doesn't come back in a month. Oaktree b (talk) 12:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: WP:RUNOFTHEMILL business person. No indication of notability. He's done one interview with Fox News but there is no independent, significant coverage at all. C F A 💬 16:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

List of This TV affiliates

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Poorly sourced list; suggested by User:NLeeuw. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 05:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete It will help to have a much more detailed rationale. This TV has evidently ceased to exist as of about May 31, 2024, in a very low-key discontinuation. The only way people realized something was up was when it started disappearing and being replaced with other diginets by affiliates across the country. Their affiliate list was already out of date, and they had abandoned all social media in late 2023. The closest parallel is that we delete categories for defunct TV networks by affiliate, e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 23#Category:Twist (TV network) affiliates). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Even though the closing has yet to be sourced outside the few that follow such closings on YouTube and Twitter (there's not even any proper news or even a note from an affiliate noting the channel's owners are no longer programming it and what they air now), for all intents and purposes this list isn't really needed any longer and was long better handled by the category system. Nate • (chatter) 18:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Category:This TV affiliates was listed at CFD [57], but closed as no consensus. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 18:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Fairly, I can see why, I would wait for confirmation of closing from somewhere before nominating a category; the last thing we ever want to do is remove something that is still a going concern before we confirm it isn't. Nate • (chatter) 20:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Marion Education Channel

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge/redirect to Marion County Public Schools Standard PEG channel, but redirecting and a small mention of its existence is appropriate here (though for the most part more of these stations are moving exclusively online). Nate • (chatter) 00:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

MSPoweruser

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Fails WP:NWEB; written like an advertisement Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:35, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - Not notable, per searches. This newly create page claims it is a publication of Reflector media, which is not itself a notable company, but does exist and has a website. Even Reflector media's website does not list this title - see the "our brands" section here [58] which lists a couple of titles but not this one. If even the publisher doesn't see this as worth a mention, it is clearly not notable for a page of its own. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - Per user above, not notable to be on this project. Normanhunter2 (talk) 13:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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United Party of Canada (2018)

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This fails WP:NORG all sources primary, or simply statistical in nature there is no indication this was ever notable and they sure aren't now since being deregistered. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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  @Cortador Different iteration there is a draft currently on this new version that hasn’t demonstrated notability yet either. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 21:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

United Party of Canada (2009)

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This fails WP:NORG all sources primary, statistical in nature, or records of legal proceedings against the party which would not lead to this party being notable. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 03:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Brower Youth Awards

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No WP:SIGCOV about the awards themselves to establish WP:GNG. Longhornsg (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Not an expert on this process but it seems that even a quick online search yields entire news articles about the awards and winners. Just a few I found in 5 minutes:

• Mercury-News
• Grist
• The Nation

What's the process where it's like this article just needs more citations demonstrating WP:SIGCOV?

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@208.58.205.56 I am not sure, personally I have no interest in fixing the article Mr Vili talk 06:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Prestige Communications

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Subject does not meet the WP:NCORP as there is a lack of independent significant coverage. Let'srun (talk) 01:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to Regional Media-Virden Broadcasting, as this appears to be the successor corporation. I agree that Prestige Communications is likely non-notable, but some of the content might be useful in building a history section in the proposed merge target. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 01:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Foot in Mouth (EP)

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Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. Appears to have not charted or been covered by reliable sources - May be some Japanese coverage, but difficult to locate. Mdann52 (talk) 06:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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  Keep Stnh1206 (talk) 07:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Redirect to Green Day discography#Extended plays: None of the coverage in the article is from reliable sources, and I found no reliable coverage. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment: The Japanese title is Bakuhatsu Live! +5 and charted at number 45 on the Oricon Albums Chart. I wasn't able to find much in the way of reviews, but I admittedly only made a surface-level check (爆発ライブ!+5, if anyone wants to search further for sources). IanTEB (talk) 20:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for this info it helps me out. i will add this to the page Stnh1206 (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Someone has found a oricon article on this EP where it shows to have charted. number 8 on the reference page Stnh1206 (talk) 00:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Comment:Except it's not an EP, it's the same length and a longer track listing than the bands debut album. If it's redirected it should be to live albums, but if it's charted it shouldn't be redirected, just retitled.Hoponpop69 (talk) 13:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

The thing is tune in Tokyo is 33 minutes and it says it is a live ep Stnh1206 (talk) 20:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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Lucia Arrascaeta

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Draftify as I am unable to find enough coverage of this rhythmic gymnast to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 23:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Draftify: I agree that this article should be draftified. More coverage needs to be sourced from independent, reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG requirements. AstridMitch (talk) 4:40, 19 June 2024

• Delete  – All coverage to my eye is either not independent of the subject, or is a WP:TRIVIAL mention. Fails GNG on this basis. My search was unable to turn up sources to prove notability, however they may exist in non-English languages. I am not opposed to incubating should there exist interest in improving the article in that namespace and demonstrating notability either via GNG or WP:NATHLETE. Bgv. (talk) 04:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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Noble Cause Foundation, Bangalore

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I found no significant coverage. Non-notable organization. SL93 (talk) 02:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Cristian Marchi

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The article was marked in 2013 as requiring better citation, and has not progressed with citations nor with clear information about activity in the field. Nothing exists in native language wiki for the person and would appear to have been deleted on multiple occasions. One should seriously question the notability in a case like this. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete no WP:RS showing significant coverage. Plenty of promotional articles in dubious sources repeating always the same information. Broc (talk) 07:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Medical professional misconduct scandals in Nova Scotia

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Another referral from WP:BLPN. This article is a product of original research and synthesis. As titled, this concept or topic is not a phenomenon covered as such within multiple reliable sources. This is an agglomeration of scandals of merely topical relation (to a non-notable topic). As an additional consideration, the WP:BLP-applicable contents have been and stand to remain consistently problematic. A list article would stand a better chance, but most of the scandals covered here are not independently notable. JFHJr (㊟) 01:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• How are scandals that involve serious breaches of public trust on multiple occasions (e.g. Dalhousie Dentistry scandal, multiple privacy breaches) and 6-7 figure lawsuit payouts not notable? One of the bullying scandals even led the victim to making a TEDx talk about workplace bullying:

https://www.ted.com/talks/gabrielle_horne_how_a_doctor_used_medical_research_tools_to_survive_workplace_bullying?language=en

If the title needs to be changed, that's one thing. Or making it a "list article", whatever that means. But I don't agree that the scandals are not independently notable. And they are related - several of them raise that there are systemic issues that recur, for example:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/dalhousie-medical-school-mistreatment-harassment-bullying-1.6712113

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/medical-resident-mistreatment-study-dalhousie-1.7058488

And others as referenced. Feel free to read the original news articles in detail, if I perhaps did not summarize them well, but I definitely see them pointing to systemic issues repeatedly - the articles themselves, not me as doing "original research and synthesis".

As a new editor on Wikipedia, getting excited about making an article about all the medical scandals in our province and the toxic workplace issues that we all hear about the medical system all the time, and being shut down quite harshly repeatedly instead of welcomed and kindly shown how to refine things, I am so demoralized that I'm frankly just done with editing. No point if this is what this community is like.

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• Delete Hello MrHaligonian, and welcome. You, me and everyone else are compelled by the rules of the project. Some of these scandals may be notable in and of themselves, but creating an article listing them all under a common banner is a form of synthesis called original research, which is disallowed. Draken Bowser (talk) 08:44, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  and per Fram. Draken Bowser (talk) 08:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

• Split into two My knee-jerk reaction is that this is probably notable enough to keep. Now to read with care... Okay, the main complaint is OR, right? The first two sources cited look RS at first blush, but they do not actually state the information they're cited to support. The source has to say the thing! Continuing... Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC) Okay, I did a source sampler on the article talk page. I propose that we Refocus the article to "Medical professional scandals at Dalhousie University": 1) The article's sources are mostly RS, but I did not see any that said "We're talking about the specific concept of medical professional scandals in Nova Scotia." The claims made in the lede that NS has a pervasive culture of harassment need to be backed up by sources that say exactly that or almost exactly that, and the sources just don't say that. 2) A big chunk of the article focuses on scandals that happened at Dalhousie University specifically and almost all of the statements made by sources do support what happened there. A few explore why in good detail. The case can be made for notability. I say we snip off that section at the bottom about the health service and repurpose these editors' hard work as a DU article. I didn't go into as much depth on the sources covering the Health Authority, but if the sources are of the same quality, then we could WP:CONTENTSPLIT the article in two. Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Gee-Haw Stables

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I found no significant coverage, and the two references are trivial mentions. SL93 (talk) 01:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

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Delete as per nom Mr Vili talk 06:41, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Zack Cooper

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I'd originally PROD'ed this, that was removed. Bringing it to AfD as I still don't think the sources support notability. I was and am unable to find sourcing about this individual, only things they've written. Unsure if this would pass academic notability or notability for business people. Oaktree b (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Weak Keep. This scholar of international affairs has a good GS record that passes WP:Prof#C1 and has published notable books. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC).
• Delete I don't find anything independent about him. In terms of publications, if you do a scholar search on "Zack Cooper" you get high hits but it is someone else - someone who writes about hospitals. If you add "Japan" to the search you get cites in the single to very low double digits. There's the same confusion in WorldCat books, but this Zack Cooper's books are found again in the single digits. (In VIAF he's "Cooper, Zack‏ ‎‡c (Researcher in security studies)‏". With the 2 keep !votes above I wonder if this name confusion wasn't noticed. Lamona (talk) 22:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Click on the scholar link above which differentiates between the two Zack Coopers. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC).

Thanks, I overlooked that. I still don't think he meets NPROF. His H-index is not high, in almost all of his publications he's one of 3 or 4 authors. I see no indication that meets: "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." I don't see awards. For AUTH we have " is known for originating a significant new concept," "has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work". Just being an author or co-author of articles is not enough. I don't see that he is someone known for furthering a body of knowledge. Lamona (talk) 15:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

It is certainly a borderline case. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC).

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Delete for a guideline like NPROF there has to be a sub-heading under which he is said to qualify. With respect to @Xxanthippe I don't see how this person passes under #1 -- the article makes no assertion he's recognized for significant impact by others in his discipline. No other heading seems to apply - he's not been a named chair professor or top academic institution leader, there's no assertion his publications have had significant impact, no evidence of impact outside of academia (meeting with a foreign official is a good start, but just a start), etc. Oblivy (talk) 00:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Take a look at the scholar link, which I admit does not indicate outstanding citations. What do you think of it? I think that this BLP is borderline and might be argued to be a case of [WP:Too soon]]. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC).

I don't see a google scholar link. Can you provide links, or just explain what you think demonstrates notability? Note that WP:TOOSOON is grounds for deletion, such as for a recent news story or someone who has received what could be temporary notability. Oblivy (talk) 03:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

On my screen the scholar link is 6.3 inches above this text. It will work if you click it. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC).

So you just wanted want me to click on the google scholar link on the nomination template and do my own searches? I do that anyway before voting -- it seems he's written a number of papers with a low citation count which is pretty close to irrelevant for notability IMHO. Oblivy (talk) 04:00, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

• Weak Keep per WP:NPROF#1. clearly a borderline case in a field (international relations) that does have a decent number of citations. Per GS he has 3 papers with 100+ citations which is generally enough to pass the bar even in biomedicine so I feel we should apply equal criteria here. Per his books, they all seem to be as editor which does not generally count for much and only one has a single review [59] so WP:NAUTHOR doesnt apply here. --hroest 10:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
• Delete ... I have been taking a look at the publication record of Cooper (via Google Scholar), as this is one of the main elements of contention. The first listed publication (2015 with Lim in Security Studies) could be labeled ‘significant’ or ‘influential’, I believe, and it should be attributed equally to Lim and Cooper. Publications with Green and Hicks most likely took place while Cooper was a fellow at CSIS and should not be used to attribute notability to Cooper’s publication record. The publication with Yarhi-Milo (2016 in International Security) should, in my opinion, be largely attributed to Yarhi-Milo as first author and a senior scientist. Below these in the list one gets into teens of citations rather than 100 or more, and none really standout as particularly impactful at casual glance. With respect to those where Cooper is first or only author:

• with Poling, 2019 Foreign Policy, the citation pattern suggest this is a time-bound article with limited long term significance
• with Shearer, 2017 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, the citation pattern is indicative of continuing interest, but the number of citations is low.
• 2018 Center for Strategic and International Studies, this is a CSIS report and likely only internally peer reviewed before publication.

...and so on. My thinking is that Cooper is too early in his career to have become ‘notable’ in the sense we use here. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per this diff and presented by user Ceyockey. Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Sin Tae-song

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:01, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Yu Kwang-jun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:58, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Ri Chang-ha

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• '''Delete''': per nomination, references are information about the player and includes little notability Wiiformii (talk) 02:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Jon Tae-yong

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 00:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:04, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

  Comment - To be fair where is anyone gonna find any sources about a north korean footballer LOL. Perhaps an exception. Mr Vili talk 06:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  There are quite a few that do. Simione001 (talk) 13:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Student Union Building (IUPUI Campus)

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A search of sources including historical newspapers has not uncovered anything that might assist this subject to meet WP:GNG. Assertions of historical significance that might contribute to WP:NBUILDING are sourced to a student newspaper, which per WP:RSSM cannot contribute to notability. Triptothecottage (talk) 00:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: per nom, though I'm not opposed to a redirect to Indiana University–Purdue University Indianapolis. HyperAccelerated (talk) 00:50, 21 June 2024 (UTC)