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Request for help with FACEdit

Hello again! I hope everything is going well with you. Apologies for always leaving random messages on your talk page. I was wondering if you could look over my current FAC if you had the time. I always appreciate your feedback, and I will be taking a brief break from the FAC process to focus on off-Wiki work so this will be my last request for a little bit at least lol. Good luck with the Mullum Malarum article. I very much admire your persistence, and you have done so much excellent work with the article. Given all of the support for its last FAC, I hope that the next time is the winner. Have a great start to your week! Aoba47 (talk) 02:07, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Aoba47, I've given my support for your FAC. In return, could you please help with the "Themes" section of MM? Fowler put two block quotes, and if I try to solve anything, he accuses me of further ruining it both in terms of grammar and accuracy. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the support. I promise to look through it in the near future. Aoba47 (talk) 05:39, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I removed the block quotes completely. I do not believe they add much to the article. I have always been told to paraphase and avoid relying on quotes as much as possible. I would have recommended to be kinder toward Fowler, but I have recently noticed his edit on the article's talk page. I am glad he retracted the comment and apologized for it, but I am still disappointed by that kind of attitude. Dr. Blofeld gave some excellent commentary during the last FAC, so it might be helpful to ask him to look through the article again if you have not done so already. Aoba47 (talk) 06:50, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Aoba47, thank you for the rewriting. Yes, that book by Bibekananda Ray was unwanted since it just repeated Thoraval's comments (I remember reading that book earlier and avoided adding it for the same reason). Fowler isn't bad; he's just old-fashioned and rigid. While I hope he does not take part in the next FAC, I respect most of his comments and seek to solve them before opening the FAC, though they are hard to solve. However, his criticism and demanding of the removal of the book Cinemavum Naanum is unacceptable because all primary sources are not bad. I have translated the development details from the book onto this text file, so you may read and tell me if there are mistakes in the "development" section. Also, I'm pretty sure a primary source is acceptable in this situation since it is not an issue that is political, financial (producers often lie about budgets like Franchise Pictures did with this masterpiece) or religious. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:42, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the message. I will try to get the article in the near future. Aoba47 (talk) 19:30, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguation pagesEdit

Hello, Kailash29792. When you changed the target of OPEN (magazine) to a disambiguation page, you may not have been aware of WP:FIXDABLINKS, which says:

When creating disambiguation pages, fix all resulting mis-directed links.
Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

It would be a great help if you would check the other Wikipedia articles that contain links to "OPEN (magazine)" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Miss Malini (1947 film)Edit

I just rearranged the cast in such a way that it would match the credits of the 1952 Hindi film Mr. Sampat.Superbrickbro (talk) 05:13, 25 September 2019 (UTC)Superbrickbro


The posters are you changing without reason it's not good. It's looks good and not having problem of any one but, u in race to change all posters dimensions so, please stop this now. Sush150 (talk) 12:36, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Rotten Tomatoes UpdatesEdit

Hi Hope you doing well. Could you please look into this discussion and provide a suggestion. Ashokkumar47 (talk) 04:05, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bhakta Prahlada (1967 film)Edit

The article Bhakta Prahlada (1967 film) you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Bhakta Prahlada (1967 film) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 11:02, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Mardaani 2 poster delete requestEdit

Please delete File:Mardaani 2 official poster.jpg fille . It was twice create. Thank you Sush150 (talk) 06:01, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


What's the latest on the article Kailash? Are we getting somewhere on what's the best usable source? VedantTalk 18:34, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Numerounovedant, I'm waiting for Ssven to return full-time since I've realised I'm not a powerful one-man army, and that probably won't be until mid-October. Would you help me until then? I still feel Mahendran's book Cinemavum Naanum is the best usable source because of WP:PRIMARYNOTBAD. Do you understand the WP:PRIMARYSOURCE policy fully, on where such sources can or cannot be used? Here is a page translating the development details of Mullum Malarum from Cinemavum Naanum. Once you finish reading it, tell me: do any of the Mahendran sources (do Ctrl+F and type {{sfn|Mahendran|2013|p) under "Development" section need replacement or rewriting? --Kailash29792 (talk) 03:34, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
I'll go through the section tomorrow. VedantTalk 18:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Numerounovedant, just a gentle reminder  . Kailash29792 (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey Kailash, I went through the section and I see no reason as to why the book is not a good enough source for the information in the opening paragraph. The information that you're substantiating with the source is not complex or critical in nature and should not require secondary sources to support it. Even the guidelines suggest that such a book is "an acceptable (although possibly incomplete) primary source for information about what the person says about himself or herself". And for the more significant and critical claims such as the film "lacking all the formulaic Tamil cinema conventions" you have secondary sources.
The place where you might possibly need a different source is for the producers and Mahendran and Chettiar bits. But again, I do not see why it is not good enough to support (at least) the information about what he felt about Chettiar and him picking up the project. It is not like you're stating it as a fact. It's clear from the text that it is just what Mahendran believed to be the case. VedantTalk 10:16, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Numerounovedant, thanks for those uplifting words. Did you read the text file I shared? If I cannot replace a primary source, the best I can do is rewrite the sentence as something like, "According to Mahendran" or "Mahendran believed". Kailash29792 (talk) 10:36, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
I did, Kailash. And no, I don't believe that it would be necessary to change the sentences as they conveh just the right meaning as such. VedantTalk 10:44, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Kailash, there are a few things that I would like to add regarding the section. Let me know if you want to discuss them here, the PR or the film's talk page. VedantTalk 11:00, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Let it be the PR. Create a section called "Comments from Vedant" or something like that. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:08, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Numerounovedant, the PR page is here. Fowler is on a three-month vacation, and Ssven2 should be back within a week. I intend to complete the entire FAC process before Fowler returns. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:25, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
I'll get to this by sunday Kailash. VedantTalk 11:58, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Numerounovedant, Sunday has almost ended. Tomorrow is every student and working man's worst nightmare. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Worry not sir, I have decided to go ahead with making a few minor tweaks myself and will bother you with only the remaining few issues. VedantTalk 19:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Alaipayuthey's posterEdit

@Kailash29792: Alaipayuthey's poster is a DVD cover, the image file must be renamed as the 'DVD cover of Alaipayuthey' from the current name which was given by you and also why did you redirect the previous file name to current name? Rukman Gul (talk) 05:38, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Rukman Gul, now I renamed it to simply File:Alaipayuthey.jpg. I don't understand why you assume it is a DVD cover, because some bootleg DVD site copied the picture I uploaded. The picture was actually scanned from this book. --Kailash29792 (talk) 05:44, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
@Kailash29792: What will happen to this image? This was made by you. Rukman Gul (talk) 06:06, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
The old image is deleted. Get over it. --Kailash29792 (talk) 06:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC)


@Kailash29792: Minnale's previous photo was good, why did you upload a small and 'not so good' photo of the film, where the number '100' has been shown; though i don't understand Tamil but I am a fan of R. Madhavan and Minnale, will you please upload a new and large photo of Minnale which is also good to see. Rukman Gul (talk) 10:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

That's a poster celebrating the film's 100th day run in theatres. Posters are preferred to DVD covers. Kailash29792 (talk) 10:50, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
@Kailash29792:, Someone says that Minnale was a bilingual film (Tamil-Telugu), was this true? In Minnale's article it has been mentioned with the Telugu song list. Rukman Gul (talk) 11:17, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Rukman Gul, no! Minnale is a Tamil only film. It is common to dub Tamil films in Telugu, just as it is common to dub English films in Indian languages, and South Indian films in Hindi (albeit only for TV channels like Sony Max). Kailash29792 (talk) 11:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Kannathil MuthamittalEdit

@Kailash29792: Kannathil Muthamittal should have a good photo as this film is very famous in the Tamil film industry; I am not telling that the whole Tamil people like this film but this film is very significant for the conflict in Sri Lanka and also this film's story is fantastic, it should have a good publicity and should contain a good picture in Wikipedia article; can you upload a good picture for the film and also can you make the article a 'good article' like Moondram Pirai? Rukman Gul (talk) 14:32, 4 October 2019 (UTC)


Hi Kailash. In my efforts to find and upload posters of old Telugu films, i found this link where we got some HD posters of Rajinikanth's Mappillai. Now deciding if they are better than the current one and uploading is your call. I just wanted to let you know. Regards, Veera Narayana 20:35, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

"The Lion King (upcoming film)" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect The Lion King (upcoming film). Since you had some involvement with the The Lion King (upcoming film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 17:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Poster with release dateEdit

I now need to ask you: is there really such a rule?

Certain posters don't even have release dates. Why do we need that on a small sized poster anyways? There are references to confirm release dates. I don't think a poster submission should be reverted only because it doesn't show the release date, especially when it's not really easy to see the release date every time.

If there is such a rule, then one might want to abide by it. But if it's coined just by a couple of editors, I don't think it's right.

You might want to check articles where the poster doesn't have release date:

I think that much would be sufficient. While it's good to include a poster with release date, I don't think it should be considered necessary. (77Survivor (talk) 16:45, 10 October 2019 (UTC))

77Survivor, when there is a poster with the final release date, it's better to use that. If not, something close to the release date (like Diwali or Christmas), or at least the month of release. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: OK, but is there such a rule/guideline so that I can know more? (77Survivor (talk) 16:50, 10 October 2019 (UTC))

77Survivor, WP:FILMPOSTER says "Ideally, an image of the film's original theatrical release poster should be uploaded and added to the infobox to serve as an identifying image for the article." I'm pretty sure that means a poster with the film's final release date (or at least something close to it, instead of a missed release date). For years I've been following this policy, and it has never been disputed. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:56, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Guru Sishyan (1988 film)Edit

Hi Kailash, in this diff, I only removed the source because I removed the text I assumed it was supporting, "The film was titled Guru Sishyan.", which is obvious from the article's title. That was a mistake; I should have realised it was supporting the previous sentence too. I'm sorry about that. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 02:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Baffle gab1978, never mind  . But you did understand the plot as you were editing it, did you? Especially the CBI officers/copies of the paper part? Then there must have been a good reason to remove the word "leverage". Kailash29792 (talk) 13:23, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks; yes, I did understand most of the plot section. "Leverage" seemed to be incidental to the plot; this is why I removed it, but I've restored it for you. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 05:44, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Baffle gab1978, thanks but please don't feel it was a demand. Basically, dirty cop Nallasivam realises that the two CBI officers who performed an income tax raid in his house are actually wastrels he already knows, but he cannot do anything to oppose them since they have created numerous copies of a paper signed by Mrs. Nallasivam saying her husband has a mountain of black money. As a result of this, they blackmail Nallasivam into helping them with their future tasks. So leverage is correct right? The hilarious scene (including the income tax raid) begins at 25:32 and ends at 34:57.
Yes, leverage is the correct word to use there; I can now see how it's relates to the rest of the film. Thanks for the link; I'll look at it later, good luck with your planned GA nomination. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:29, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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