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First-person and Third-person Open world gamesEdit

A user by the name of Interqwark has created two new categories: First-person Open world games and Third-person open world games. I have suggested the latter for deletion, but I think this applies in this instance: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Overcategorization. He’s taking games out of the main category and placing them in either of the two or both. I believe this is overkill.Dohvahkiin (talk) 23:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Rise of the Tomb Raider copyeditEdit


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Your GA nomination of Rise of the Tomb RaiderEdit

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Your GA nomination of Titanfall 2Edit

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development - dmc5Edit

I disagree that a project's director previous projects aren't relevant or important.

A quick look at the development sections of many other video games in regards to staff - they make references to at least a few of their more noteworthy projects. At the very least, the last major project said staff member worked on - which for Hideaki Itsuno's case is Dragon's Dogma and Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LHK lowhighkang (talkcontribs) 22:19, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@LHK lowhighkang: I would say it depends on the context. I mean, Itsuno has worked in other games before the Devil May Cry series like some fighting games. If Itsuno mentions his previous works in an interview, then we should include them.Tintor2 (talk) 23:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@Tintor2

I'm pretty sure he has. Maybe not in any recent devil may cry 5 interviews, but without a doubt he's mentioned his work history in other interviews. I'll be on the look out for any related interview with DMC5 in which he cites some of his other works. But nonetheless I still feel including a small sample of some his more popular work experience in other franchises wouldn't be a waste of space by any means. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LHK lowhighkang (talkcontribs) 08:27, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@LHK lowhighkang: - If him being the director for other games had an impact on the development of DMC 5, then we should include it. If not, they are simply trivial details. His most important credit, in this case, is being the director of previous Devil May Cry games. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Enslaved: Odyssey to the WestEdit

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@Twofingered Typist: - Thanks you very much for your help! AdrianGamer (talk) 12:46, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Enslaved: Odyssey to the WestEdit

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If you've got some timeEdit

Would you be able to have a read of Monaco: What's Yours Is Mine for this peer review? I plan to nominate it for FA status but I'd like some more feedback before I do that. All good if you're unable to. Cheers, Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

My new job has taken up almost all of my time. I am sorry but I may not be able to help. AdrianGamer (talk) 12:23, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Enslaved: Odyssey to the WestEdit

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Your GA nomination of Enslaved: Odyssey to the WestEdit

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Quantic DreamEdit

I am looking to nominate this for good article status. Since you've done the same to most good video game company articles, would you consider 1 reviewing it against the project's quality scale, and 2 seeing if there is something missing? I rewrote it using what was there before, with added research. Want it to be ready for the nom. Cognissonance (talk) 22:30, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Cognissonance: - It is not a long article, so I could review it when you nominate it. I should have more time to do wiki stuff after this week. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:35, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
What I meant was if you could see if it was B-class or not, as well as discern whether the article is comprehensive enough to nominate. Cognissonance (talk) 15:40, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
@Cognissonance: - I think this can easily be a B-class, though I think if you are going to nominate the article for GA, the lead needs to be longer. The history section is a bit short if you ask me, but length shouldn't be a problem for GAN as long as it is comprehensive enough and all the available sources are fully utilized. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Remedy EntertainmentEdit

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Dragon Age IIEdit

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Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: - Appreciate this. Thank you! AdrianGamer (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Dragon Age IIEdit

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Jurassic World EvolutionEdit

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難得在英文維基遇見。。給閣下舉爪ฅ(*`ω´*)ฅ--Zyksnowy (talk) 13:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

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TranslationsEdit

In case you haven't seen, Insomniac Games was translated and reviewed in Portuguese: pt:Insomniac Games. Pretty cool. Also the review says that the editor added more info on mobile and VR games, if there's any content you want to translate back to enwp. czar 23:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Plants vs. Zombies: Garden WarfareEdit

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ThanksEdit

Thanks for improving Until Dawn. I had my eye on the article but never got around to it. Looks great. Cognissonance (talk) 21:31, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@Cognissonance: - Thanks! You keep up the good work too! AdrianGamer (talk) 17:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

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Until DawnEdit


Video game questionEdit

Are you interested in the EarthBound series TheSpiderKid (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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Copy edit request of Far Cry 3Edit

Hi! I've finished my first pass at copy editing Far Cry 3. I have a few notes and questions for you:

  • I just want to be sure, is there a single Rook Island or are Rook Islands a series of islands referred to under a collective name?
  • Meanwhile, Jason has an affair with Citra after she drugs him and has sex with him in a hallucination. Do they actually have an affair, or does Jason just think so due to the hallucination(s)?
  • The team would then manually adjust the placement of different objects and test the outpost. should that be 'output'?
  • It seems like there might be some repetition between the sections Plot and Development/Story. Plot is a little under 800 words and Story is a little under 900 (the recommended length for video game plots is 700 words WP:VG/CONTENT). Given that Plot sets the context for Story, I felt that anything which repeats plot information or gameplay information should probably be cut to keep it focused on the development of the story. Some specific cuts from Story which I'd recommend (or these could be moved to other sections):
    • In the game, players follow Jason, an innocent young man dragged into an insane and murderous journey on Rook Island.
    • The experience of Jason maturing is reflected in gameplay. Completing quests earns experience points and the game's upgrade trees slowly transform Jason into an effective combatant.
    • and that "it says something" about players themselves. Regarding the game's ending, where players can choose to kill his friends, Yohalem added that it will be interesting to examine why players could perform such actions. According to Yohalem, Far Cry 3 is a game that can "show [player's] angle" and allowed players to project what they view in the real world into what the game represents I felt like these quotes weren't terribly illustrative and I summarized the passage.
    • This creates a sense of discomfort to players. Does this fit under development? Did they intent to create a sense of discomfort among the players?
  • A lot of the development section is based on interviews; some care should be taken to be clear these are primary sources which may be biased. (eg: according to developer X...)
  • Promotion and release might have non-notable details. According to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Video games, The use of release teasers, trailers, and social media is common throughout the industry, so specific details on these elements are generally unnecessary unless the nature of their presentation is something noted by sources.
  • Doug Creutz, an analyst from Cowen and Company, predicted that the game would reach 850,000 units sold in December 2012. I don't feel this projection is needed when there are actual sales figures.
  • "kill these characters in the game in order to finish your entertainment" I didn't find this quote in the source.

Would appreciate any clarification on these points. Thanks. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:11, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: - Sorry for the late reply. Rook Islands is a tropical archipelago with several islands. It is difficult to say whether she has an affair with Citra, given that this game likes to blur reality and hallucinations, but I believed he has. I think "output" is a good alternative. I don't mind trimming the repeating parts of the development#story section, though I don't think its word limit is limited by WP:VGSCOPE. Yes, they intended to create a sense of discomfort. I think Doug Creutz can be removed if you think it is unimportant. The quote "kill these characters in the game in order to finish your entertainment" can also be removed as I cannot find its source. Thank you once again for the copyediting efforts! OceanHok (talk) 05:40, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Protection of the Varieties of ChineseEdit

Hello- I would like to invite your comments and edits on a new page, Protection of the Varieties of Chinese, which is based on a Chinese Wikipedia article. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:15, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019Edit

  Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Also, please don't remove tag without resolving the issue. Wikipedia is NOT a news / current affair website. Please wait for the publication of secondary source and then cite them, instead of adding content directly without cite. Matthew hk (talk) 17:25, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

@Matthew hk: - I admitted I put the source in the wrong place because of multiple edit conflicts. However, the RTHK source supports the statement about protesters fighting back with umbrella accurately and the problem of OR was resolved. That's why I removed the tag for OR because the issue is fixed. AdrianGamer (talk) 17:30, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Interpretation of the video and photo and other form of WP:primary source is strictly prohibited. It is an original research. Only thing that it is not original research, was something like simple calculation. Matthew hk (talk) 17:35, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

  Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Again. Please don't remove the tag until there is SECONDARY SOURCE to describe the event. Matthew hk (talk) 17:46, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

What is the point of giving me two separate warning templates of two different levels based on 1 edit? Anyway, RTHK clearly described what happened. It interprets and describes the online videos (primary source), right? Unless your justification is that RTHK is a government-funded broadcasting service, or else I failed to see how it is a primary source. RTHK is a credible secondary source that also exercises press freedom, despite being positioned under the government. For the text: Some of those targeted used umbrellas to try to fight off their attackers. AdrianGamer (talk) 18:07, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Until DawnEdit

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I am here to give you a heads-up that my review of Until Dawn has been completed.--Megaman en m (talk) 14:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
I will close the review in seven days if no adjustments are made. You are free to renominate it afterward when you're ready.--Megaman en m (talk) 09:39, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello there, Hongkonger. Here's some vanilla ice cream!Edit

HeyEdit

Can I get some explaination on why you don't consider Persona 5 Royal "a new game" as noted by this revision? I'm quite confused by this removal, so I would really like to obtain some arguments on your behalfs. --SansUT (talk | contributions) 02:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

It is an expanded version of an existing game, thus it is not a new game. OceanHok (talk) 09:26, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
(sorry for being late) Not a new game? Does that mean the Persona 3 FES entry in the 2008 in video gaming table doesn't count? I'm pretty confused when you mean "expanded version of an exising game" being the logic of said game not being a new entry. --SansUT (talk | contributions) 03:00, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Until DawnEdit

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HelpEdit

Please help me by reverting relentless vandalism by 139.5.158.152 in 2019 Hong Kong protests, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.193.240.113 (talk) 10:08, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

@157.193.240.113: - He was reported to the admin by another editor, so he will be blocked from editing soon. No need to worry too much. OceanHok (talk) 10:11, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

But there are thousands of visitors to the page everyday. It will make Wikipedia look bad if we leave such blatant vandalism in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.193.240.143 (talk) 10:14, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Gentle suggestionEdit

If you don't want to have to manually re-insert the non-controversial edits you make, I'd suggest holding off on the ones that are iffy on WP:NPOV until after you've finished clean-up. This will mean I won't need to revert a bunch of grammar fixes along with stuff that doesn't pass muster. Simonm223 (talk) 13:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Re: 2019 Hong Kong protestsEdit

I have remove the reference "grilling" from 2019 Hong Kong protests because it cannot be found. Feel free to add back the reference with the proper citation. Thanks! Hurricane111 (talk) 22:27, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Removal of maintenance template without before any discussion began.Edit

Please do not remove maintenance templates if none of the issues at WP:WTRMT are reached. See, WP:WNTRMT for when you shouldn't be removing templates. KasimMejia (talk) 12:57, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

@KasimMejia: - This was an abusive use of maintenance templates. You already have {{Disputed inline}} in place. A small and minor infobox issue does not justify the use of the big {{POV}} template per WP:TN. What you are doing is essentially hijacking a RfC and then saying that everyone who disagreed with you WP:IDONTLIKEIT (in a discussion that has nothing to do with China or anything that contradicts your viewpoint) before a consensus has been reached, and then slapped a WP:POV template into the page because at this point no one agrees with you in the talk page (yet) in a RfC (surprise!) that isn't about how we handle China in the infobox. This behavior is uncivil.
I have no particular opinion as to whether China/US should be listed in the support section (so I didn't vote in the RfC), but I'd say starting another RfC In the talk page regarding the situation is a better idea than to slap a cleanup template hoping that some other editors would look and discuss at the talk page. OceanHok (talk) 13:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
The non neutral inclusion of the belligerents in to the infobox is large enough issue that warrants a headline template. As for you telling me I'm doing this because everyone disagrees with me is a baseless accusation. What you're pretty much saying is, since everybody agrees on it, we can simply write original research material. You should read WP:DEM first of all regarding this, Wikipedia is not a ballot box and you can't break rules if you have majority.
I'll reiterate my discussion here. The article infobox cites 2 sources, which state China verbally supporting the HK gov, and includes China under Support per these sources. Yet in the RfC users have opposed the inclusion of US under support even though US congress passed a bill supporting the protests. The talk page is very pro-protester. That does not mean they get to break rules and neutrality. KasimMejia (talk) 13:34, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
In the RfC, people agree with the removal of the US from the infobox, not keeping China in the infobox. They are not the same, and you drag China into the discussion. There is no "majority" decision with keeping China in the infobox because it does not exist. As I have said, the way to go is to start another RfC about China, not slapping a template if you really want to resolve the issue. OceanHok (talk) 13:48, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

I would accept your advice in principle. And yet, it can be hard to determine what one should or should not be as standalone article. I will consider the issue more carefully before giving you further responses. Universehk (talk) 21:31, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Consolidation of articles relating 2019 Hong Kong ProtestsEdit

It seems not a bad idea for me to put protests in universities campus into one single article (e.g. 2019 Conflicts at Hong Kong Universities Campus). If we only combined all protests in one single article, it seriously harm the readability. It sounds better to cover other unis such as CityU/HKU as well. Universehk (talk) 22:34, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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