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  • Mont Brulé → ? – (Discuss) – Unlikely that the extra diacritic is sufficient for WP:SMALLDETAILS here. I'm however unsure about a disambiguation tag, since these are both in the Pennine Alps. 162 etc. (talk) 16:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – (Discuss) – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[1] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.

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  1. ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • MKS Cracovia → Cracovia (football) – (Discuss) – On 13 June 2024, Cracovia announced they've reverted back to their historic name 'KS Cracovia SA', or in full, 'Klub Sportowy Cracovia Spółka Akcyjna'. [44] The 'M' in 'MKS' stood for Miejski (Municipal), which is no longer the case after the city of Kraków have sold all their shares in the club. [45][46]. The current name for this page, 'MKS Cracovia', is therefore outdated and only refers to the owner group of the club, MKS Cracovia SSA. (no announcements on whether it will be changed anytime soon). To avoid issues in case they were to ever rename or change their legal entity again, rather than change their name back to 'KS Cracovia (football), I'd like to suggest dropping the 'MKS/KS' from their name altogether. It is not currently clear whether the name change also affects their ice hockey which is run by the same group, but they have started using the new updated logo, which was released along with the name change announcement. [47] The football department is Cracovia's most recognizable in Polish sports, therefore perhaps the page could also be moved to just 'Cracovia', in line with pages such as FC Barcelona and FC Bayern Munich, who also run other notable departments, whose pages contain the sports name in brackets to differentiate them from the 'main' section. KibolLP (talk) 10:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Toodyay, Western Australia → Toodyay – (Discuss) – If this was in the USA, this title is the correct way even though there is only one article with this exact name. (See WP:USPLACE for more.) But this is Australia, so USPLACE doesn't apply here. JuniperChill (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 21:23, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Chinilpa → Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan – (Discuss) – See my talk post above this; this article is currently titled using a term considered derogitory, and isn't exclusively a discussion about the word itself per WP:WORDISSUBJECT. It actually significantly talks about the people alleged to be collaborators. That'd be like talking about a people group under an article titled with a slur for them; that's clearly not neutral, it feels like it's validating the slur. Note: I'm not expressing sympathy for nor opposition to collaborators here, I am purely trying to apply WP:NDESC. My proposed new title matches Category:Korean collaborators with Imperial Japan; I just chose to use it for consistency and because it's an adequate title, open to suggestions for other titles. Side note, but the term itself is possibly independently notable and could eventually get its own article, but current article lengths suggest to me that it should all be in one. 104.232.119.107 (talk) 20:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Piracy in India → Koli piracy in India – (Discuss) – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. 106.196.36.70 (talk) 20:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Somerset Passenger Solutions → Specialist Passenger Solutions – (Discuss) – Bus-commuting company from the eponymous area in England. While the official site still uses the "Somerset" moniker (alongside their SPS abbreviation), this official British-corporation database listing has recorded their new name since last June. (Filing on behalf of 86.159.81.11 (talk); as seen at Category:Unassessed articles recently.Seriously, we need a backlog drive for that!) Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 13:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • TOPS System → Total posterior spine system – (Discuss) – I don't believe WP:ACROTITLE is suitable, most RS seem to introduce by the full name first, and the abbreviation seems to be ambiguous with at least some other uses. There are a few possible title options though, and I'm less sure about the case. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ponwar cattle → Ponwar – (Discuss) – unnecessary disambiguator no need to add extra disambiguation as it's a primary topic. 2404:3100:181C:6939:1:0:DC2B:E37E (talk) 08:18, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sloboda → Sloboda (settlement) – (Discuss) – This word means "freedom" in the original Slavic languages, and while there is a significant usage in Russian and Ukrainian history as well as some usage in modern-day Russian administrative divisions, described at this presumed primary topic, its usage and long-term significance does not actually overshadow the ambiguity over the other uses of the word for the average English reader. In preparation for this move, I went through the list of ~200 incoming links to preemptively disambiguate them. The usage is typically clerical, to explain the strange term, which is most commonly placed in italics. This indicates that the fact that the explanation was directly at "sloboda" was a very easy way to get the etymological explanation. However, that's a possible description of editor behavior, which is not necessarily the reader behavior (WP:RF). It should also be noted that Russian toponymy lists are quite weird from the perspective of a navigation purpose for set indices, with an apparent habit of linking these kinds of terms contrary to what MOS:DABONE would advise. It's not that I'm opposed to having a link somewhere in such a set index to explain the term, but the volume of this skews the statistics. After going through the list, I was left with 19 links (~10%) where I couldn't identify a clear connection to this particular subject. Mostly they seemed to be generic references to the Slavic word for "freedom". This also extended to Russian topics. Some were references to specific places named Sloboda, not the concept. I had also disambiguated numerous others by linking Foobar Svoboda instead of keeping a largely useless partial link (sadly I didn't keep a count of these to be able to note the percentage). A search in Google Books for me does not identify this meaning to be primary - I get more references to people named this way. Likewise for Google Scholar. I don't have reason to believe that this would differ for the average English reader. WikiNav for Sloboda and meta:Research:Wikipedia clickstream archive indicate that the hatnote is consistently one of the most commonly clicked links on the page - even in months where we see a larger readership, it's still among the most commonly clicked links (for example in March '24, with 162 clickstreams to 9 identified destinations, the hatnote was #3 with 17). This is typically indicative of a navigation issue. Another editor reverted the initial preparatory move, thinking this broke links (it did not) and saying this changes a 'long established' status quo - I don't see an actual rationale there. Just because this grew organically as is - doesn't mean it's not subject to evaluation and adjustment. In addition, similar terms like svoboda and swoboda are not short-circuiting here and are indeed disambiguated, so this change would seem to make things more consistent. Joy (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 07:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Philip of Sweden → Philip, King of Sweden – (Discuss) – Per consistency with other Swedish kings who were without a regnal number, such as Birger, King of Sweden, Valdemar, King of Sweden, and Albert, King of Sweden. 2601:249:9301:D570:940A:52B5:CCA9:A4A3 (talk) 04:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 01:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 04:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 2024 Slatina protests → Death of Flavius Magraon – (Discuss) – This looks more notable, in any case. The article should be centered on the main event and not on the protests that were a consequence of it. The death of a person is also more relevant than seemingly small and unconsequential (beyond the local level) protests. This title format, consistent with other articles, also puts the scope onto the person who was a professional footballer which is something that can be written more about in the article. Super Ψ Dro 23:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Polish–Russian War (1605–1618) → Russo-Polish War (1609–1618) – (Discuss) – Sources tend to put the start date of the war to 1609 [48][49], when there was a declaration of war, excluding invasions in the preceding years. This is also consistent with and , as well as consistent with Russo-Polish War (1654–1667). Mellk (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Parachromis managuensis → Jaguar cichlid – (Discuss) – So, the last time a name change for this article has been discussed was back in 2007 (see "article title" up above). This article used to be named "Managuense cichlid," but was later changed to the Latin name and current title, Parachromis managuensis, on the basis that it was the least ambiguous epithet for the species. Which is true. Latin names are almost always less ambiguous than vernacular names, but they're almost never as concise or recognizable - for the same reason we have articles named Great white shark and Largemouth bass rather than Carcharodon carcharias and Micropterus salmoides, I'm going to propose that this article be renamed to Jaguar cichlid. For the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability and naturalness, I present the Google Search results for the names listed in the article's lede (in order from most hits to least): * "jaguar cichlid": ~93,700 results * "parachromis managuensis": ~40,900 results * "jaguar guapote": ~9,680 results * "managuense cichlid": ~8,720 results * "guapote tigre": ~8,640 results * "aztec cichlid": ~4,090 results * "managua cichlid": ~1,470 results * "spotted guapote": ~812 results "Jaguar cichlid" is more than twice as prevalent on the web as the Latin name. It's nearly a full order of magnitude more prevalent than the next most popular vernacular name, "jaguar guapote" - and if that's where we draw the line, then names like "managuense cichlid" and "guapote tigre" aren't even in the running. This is supported by Google Trends, which shows that on average, "jaguar cichlid" is searched for 47 times more than "parachromis managuensis" and "managuense cichlid" worldwide. We should name the article accordingly. Simple as. Kodiak Blackjack (talk) • (contribs) 00:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 11:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 22:51, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hit-Girl & Kick-Ass → Kick-Ass (comic book) – (Discuss) – Series is most commonly known as "Kick-Ass". Even the original "Hit-Girl" miniseries was collected under a "Kick-Ass" title. Mark Millar's official web site mentions "Kick-Ass", but not "Hit-Girl". 2002:620D:3AF:0:F89C:267A:F5A2:2C10 (talk) 22:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Principality of Halych → Principality of Galicia – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMONNAME, see Ngram as an example. The Latinized name is also used in Principality of Volhynia and Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia. This is also a name used in English-language works by Ukrainian historians,[50] which reflects the historical name for the region. Mellk (talk) 16:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The New York Times Crossword → The New York Times crossword puzzle – (Discuss) – (restoring longstanding title) Per WP:AT, Although official ... or trademarked names are often used for article titles, the term or name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred (in other words, the NYT's branding does not matter). Ngrams strongly support lowercase. Web searches too: competitors of the Times lowercase it almost exclusively. Lowercase also makes linking easier; running text in the encyclopedia should generally not use brand-y capitalization. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 05:57, 5 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rallying → Rally (motorsport) – (Discuss) – "Rallying" remains vague, as it can apply in literally every other type of sport "rally" is a term as well as the stock market. It is not an adequate disambiguation. Britannica calls it "rally" [51] so that's what I went with here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • European political party → Political party at European level – (Discuss) – More precise; uses the official term; avoids erroneous implied scope of all of Europe's political parties at every geographic level. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 08:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Funding of European political parties → Funding of political parties at European level – (Discuss) – The current title erroneously implies that all political parties in Europe are included. "political parties at European level" is the proper name. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:57, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nuseirat refugee camp massacre → Killing of civilians during Nuseirat raid and rescue – (Discuss) – The word "massacre" is listed as a non-neutral term at WP:POVNAMING and should not be used unless it's a WP:COMMONNAME, which it isn't in this case. "Killing of civilians" is perfectly neutral (see WP:KILLINGS) and covers the idea of "massacre" but in a neutral way. Two anticipated objections: *While there is currently a discussion to merge this article, I don't see any consensus there. If consensus does develop to merge/delete this article, then an admin is perfectly capable of closing this RM and redirecting this article. But until then, this article must still follow WP:NPOV. *While Israeli and Palestinian officials dispute how many civilians were killed, the fact that at least some civilians (including children) were killed during the raid is a established fact that RS state in their own voice: **"At the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in the nearby town of Deir al-Balah, the dead and wounded arrived in waves — men, women and children." Associate Press **"Many Palestinians, including children, were killed and injured in the area where the operation took place, with images and footage showing a large numbers of casualties." BBC News **"Video in the aftermath of the raid showed charred bodies scattered across streets in Nuseirat, while Palestinians could be seen gathering the remains of those killed. Bloodied children could also be seen arriving at a local hospital". NBC News Finally, the move target should be "Killing of civilians during X", where X is the name decided for 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation article per WP:CONSISTENT. Currently there seems to be a lot of support for moving that article to "Nuseirat raid and rescue". VR (Please ping on reply) 04:56, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Al-Sardi school attack → Al-Sardi school airstrike – (Discuss) – For starters, the attack itself was an airstrike, so it would be a more precise name. Secondly, there seems to be a lot of sources not saying “attack”, but rather “strike” as in airstrike. #Associated Press — “Israeli strike” #BBC — “Israeli strike on UN school” #The Guardian — “Israeli strike on UN school” #ABC News — “Israeli strike on UNRWA school” #CBS News — “Israel says deadly strike on Gaza school” #CNN — “Israel strike on UN school” #The Washington Post — “Israel used U.S. munition in deadly strike on U.N. school” #UN News — “Israeli airstrike on UNRWA school in Gaza” #Reuters — “Israeli strike on UN school” #Australian Broadcasting Corporation — “Israeli strike kills” #Fox News — “IDF says terrorists hiding in UN school killed in strike”…”The predawn strike hit the al-Sardi School run by UNRWA” Even clear-bias sides note “strike”: #Al Jazeera (pro-Hamas) — “Israeli airstrikes on UN-run school” #Times of Israel (pro-Israel) — “IDF strikes UN school in central Gaza” So, I propose and support a renaming of this article to “Al-Sardi school airstrike” to more closely match RS and common naming/description of the event. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 09:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mokai Tramway → Taupo Totara Timber Company Railway – (Discuss) – The proposed title makes this article easier to find. Many readers will have heard of the "TTT", the tourist town of Taupo, or Lake Taupo. Few people will be familiar with the sawmilling village of Mokai, which today has only a few houses and a marae. The name also distinguishes the main Putaruru to Mokai line from the bush tramways radiating from Mokai. Many of these tramways were accessible only to selected TTT Railway rolling stock. In contrast, all TTT locomotives including the Mallet and the four-wheeled locos were able to run through to Mokai, where the company had its main mechanical workshop. The proposed new title also distinguishes the TTT Railway from the Kinleith Branch, which covered only part of the route and was built on formation that was largely new. (The original TTT formation north of Tokoroa is still visible in some places). I have a large collection of source material on the railway and the company and I hope to add more info and true primary citations as time permits. I will also propose that a separate page be set up covering the TTT company itself Kbwc56 (talk) 00:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 00:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Srebrenica massacre → Srebrenica genocide – (Discuss) – I suggest that we rename this article to "Srebrenica genocide" now that the UN has issued its resolution on the matter today, designating July 11 as the International Day of Reflection and Commemoration of the 1995 Genocide in Srebrenica Please also check the discussion above. Njamu (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Zürich → Zurich – (Discuss) – Zurich appears to be the name most commonly used in English-language sources, including by the city itself[52], Zurich Airport[53], Swiss Railways[54], airline Swiss[55], and Zurich local transport newtork[56]. I agree that there are some English-language sources that spell it Zürich, but they are either those that consistently prefer localised spelling (Düsseldorf, Łódź, or Hồ Chí Minh City; BBC and Britannica often fall here), or those that follow Wikipedia. Yet, non-umlauted spelling, even if not universal, appears to be the English norm. — kashmīrī TALK 06:35, 3 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 08:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip → Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Just like we don't have a date on Israel-Hamas war, as that is by far the most significant of the wars between Israel and Hamas, the current invasion of Gaza Strip is by far the most significant of the invasions of Gaza Strip. It is the longest in duration, most extensive in damage, the highest in casualties and received the most international attention. VR (Please ping on reply) 18:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – (Discuss) – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anti-Normanism → Normanism – (Discuss) – The article starts with "Anti-Normanism is an opposition to Normanism, the mainstream narrative..." I find it weird that the mainstream theory of Normanism is but a section inside the fringe theory. The article must be moved and reshuffled upside down. - Altenmann >talk 19:33, 22 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph (talk) 14:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • September 2022 Armenia–Azerbaijan clashes → September 2022 Azerbaijani attack on Armenia – (Discuss) – I have not seen a single reliable source saying that Armenia attacked Azerbaijan. But multiple reliable sources say the opposite. Various sources describe the events as an “invasion”, “offensive”, “attack”, or “assault.” There is consensus that Azerbaijan was the one who initiated the hostilities. Some talk about “Azerbaijan’s Invasion of Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Offensive on Armenia”, “Azerbaijan’s Attack on Armenia”, but they all agree on one thing: Azerbaijan was the initiator of the clash, and it was Azerbaijan who attacked. Therefore, the title “Attack of Azerbaijan on Armenia” perfectly reflects the vast majority of reliable sources and is the least ambiguous. I will provide the overwhelming evidence below: * Human Rights Watch:  :“The killings took place during fighting between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces that broke out in mid-September, when Azerbaijan made incursions into Armenia...” * Genocide Watch:  :“Azerbaijani military attacks on Armenian territory show Azerbaijani disregard for Armenian sovereignty.” * Freedom House:  :“Freedom House Condemns Azerbaijani Attacks on Armenia”  :“The Azerbaijani armed forces must immediately cease their deadly attacks on Armenian territory” * Axel Gehring, Ph.D., political scientist and expert in the field of foreign and security policy and researcher at the Institute for Critical Social Analysis of the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation in Berlin:  :“On September 13, regular Azerbaijani troops launched a large-scale attack on Armenian territory. This attack took tensions between the countries to a new level.” * Laurence Broers is a specialist in conflicts in the Transcaucasus, founder of the scientific journal Caucasus Survey:  :"Azerbaijan's recent attack seeks to enforce terms in negotiations with Armenia" “ The recent large-scale cross-border attacks inside Armenia by Azerbaijan...” * Maximilian Hess, Research Fellow for Central Asia at the Foreign Policy Institute, in Foreign Policy magazine:  :“Azerbaijani forces who marched into Armenia continue to occupy part of its territory, in particular heights around the town of Jermuk.” * David L. Phillips, conflict analyst in The National Interest:  :“The United States criticized Azerbaijan's recent attacks on Armenia proper” * European Parliament Resolution:  :“Strongly condemns the latest military aggression by Azerbaijan on September 12, 2022 on the sovereign territory of Armenia”  :“calls on the Azerbaijani authorities, therefore, to immediately withdraw from all parts of the territory of Armenia “ * Wojciech Gorecki, senior researcher at the Department of Turkey, Caucasus and Central Asia:  :“in September 2022 Azerbaijan attacked targets located on Armenian territory.” * The Guardian:  : “This week, with attention focused across the Black Sea in Ukraine, fighting on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia killed about 100 troops after Azerbaijan shelled a number of towns in Armenia, with both sides accusing each other of “provocations”.” * Der Spiegel:  : “Peace negotiations mediated by the European Union have been at an impasse since Baku also attacked territory in the Republic of Armenia in September 2022.” * TIME:  : “...democratic nation that was recently invaded by its authoritarian neighbor”  : “...but also Armenia, which has been suffering from Azerbaijan's invasion for almost three weeks now.” * BBC:  : “I don’t think anyone doubts that Azerbaijan started this operation on the territory of Armenia. Even Azerbaijani commentators admit this. Armenia is currently weak, has little interest in disrupting the status quo.” * Eurasianet  :"Azerbaijan launches large-scale attacks on Armenia"  :“Azerbaijan launched a large-scale attack on targets in Armenia, an unprecedented expansion of the long-running conflict into Armenian territory.” * Michael Rubin, senior researcher at AIP:  :“Last week, Azerbaijan attacked Armenia proper. (Last week Azerbaijan attacked Armenia directly)” * Paul Stronski is a senior fellow in the Carnegie Russia and Eurasia Programs, specializing in Russia and the South Caucasus:  : “..the fact that Russia is preoccupied, certainly led to what looks like an Azerbaijani offensive at this time”  : “And what we even saw just in the last few days is actually attacks inside and shelling inside cities inside Armenia, not just along the border." * Kapil Komireddy, political columnist for The Telegraph:  : “But so little about Azerbaijan's attack, which goes beyond the disputed territory of Karabakh and targets Armenia proper.” *Seth Franzman, Middle East analyst for The Jerusalem Post , contributor to Defense News, The National Interest and Digest of Middle East Studies:  :“Attacks on Armenia represent dangerous escalation” *Carnegie Europe:  :“Nearly 300 soldiers died in a large-scale Azerbaijani incursion into the territory of Armenia on September 13-14.” Vanezi (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra (talk) 14:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Genocide of Indigenous peoples → Genocide of indigenous peoples – (Discuss) – "Indigenous" is only a proper name when adopted as conventional for a particular ethnic group, and when applied to the specific groups who have done so. As a general, global adjective it is not and cannot be a proper name (any more than the opposite, "colonial"), so should not be capitalized. See in particular the lead paragraph of MOS:CAPS: WP does not capitalize that which is not capitalized consistently across nearly all independent reliable sources, and "indigenous peoples" is not so capitalized (indeed, it is overwhelmingly lowercase [57][58], except in highly retrictive contexts that refer to specific populations who have adopted the term self-referentially as a name in English). This same situation is true of all such terms such as "native" and "aboriginal". "Aboriginal" is capitalized in reference to autochthonous Australians, and "Native" is capitalized in "Native Americans" in reference to the autochthonous peoples of what is now the US and sometimes (in mostly US usage) all of the Americas. But "native" is not capitalized (by the preponderance of modern reliable sources) in reference to Australians, nor "aboriginal" in reference to Americans, and neither is capitalized in "the native (aboriginal) peoples and languages of Siberia and Central Asia before the Soviet Union", etc. PS: There may be other over-capitalized articles of this sort, but perhaps take them one at a time, since some might pertain more narrowly to groups that have taken on "Indigenous" as a self-referential name/label.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  04:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC); revised 06:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tel al-Sultan massacre → Rafah tent camp attack – (Discuss) – News sources have called it "attack", "massacre", "strike" and "airstrike". It is not yet clear which is the most WP:COMMONNAME. "Massacre" carries value judgement, and "airstrike" obscures the fact that many of the casualties weren't killed directly by the airstrike, but were burned alive in the resulting fire. "Strike" is very similar to "attack", but "attack" is consistent with other similar events like World Central Kitchen aid convoy attack. I also think "Rafah tent camp" is more recognizable than "Tel al-Sultan" and most sources seem to use "Rafah tent camp" or "Rafah displacement camp".VR (Please ping on reply) 18:14, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza → ? – (Discuss) – I'm unsure what the new title should be, but I'm sure that this one has an issue. The Israeli attack on Gaza has gone past 2023 into 2024. So, we can't keep the "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" part. Perhaps we could change it to "Allegations of genocide perpetrated by Israel in the Israel–Hamas war", "Allegations of genocide in Gaza in the Israel–Hamas war", or something different. Note that "2023 Israeli attack on Gaza" just redirects to Israel–Hamas war. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Arab citizens of Israel → Palestinian and Arab citizens of Israel – (Discuss) – Per the smart suggestion from Keizers in the discussion above, this middle ground should address the concerns of both sides. Many editors have put a lot of time into this debate over many years, so we would ask you not to vote until you have reviewed the following discussions: * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel/Archive 8#Requested move 27 October 2021 * Talk:Palestinian citizens of Israel#Requested move 26 November 2021 * Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian citizens of Israel (6 March 2024, proposed by Keizers) * Talk:Arab citizens of Israel#Requested move 21 March 2024 Onceinawhile (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Possibly incomplete requests

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See "Request all associated moves explicitly"

References

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