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Joshua Scott Jones AFC SubmissionEdit

I'd love comments, a reviewer, or additional edits for my Draft: Joshua Scott Jones AFC submission. Cteddie1 (talk) 15:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)cteddie1

Bob Miller AFC SubmissionEdit

Obviously, I am a newbie. My recent Draft:Bob Miller (composer, born 1895) submission was changed after I submitted it to include the "composer, born 1895" bit. I realize this has to be done to disambiguate from all the Robert Miller entries. But I think "composer" is a little misleading in this case. Does anyone know how I can change it to be "songwriter, born 1895?" Or is "composer, born 1895" the best way to go? Joelcrob (talk) 15:31, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

The article can't be called "Bob Miller" because we already have Bob Miller, which redirects to Robert Miller, which is a disambiguation page. The convention around name disambiguation is at WP:NCPDAB. We already have Robert Miller (composer). When we have two people with the same disambiguating tag ("composer" in this case) we add the birth date, and that's what was done here. The other possibility would be Bob Miller (composer). I'm not sure which I prefer. GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:02, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Or if you think "songwriter" is best I would go ahead and rename it (the "move" button) and maybe even leave out the "born 1895". If you do that, leave hatnotes on both pages. GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Don't forget music publishing and "Bob Miller, Inc." his publishing company
the man of many many pseudonyms Tillywilly17 (talk) 19:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Palmer Trio (Musical group) Pseudonym on Bluebird, Sunrise issues for Bob Miller Trio.
Burnett Brothers (Vocal group) Pseudonym on Vi 23745 for Bob Miller Trio.
Bob Miller Trio Listing on Par R 1154 for Miller's Bullfrog Entertainers.
Sherman and Lee Listing for Miller's Bullfrog Entertainers.
Sherman and Lee (Musical group) Listing on VT and Cl issues for Miller's Bullfrog Tutters
Bob Ferguson and his Scalawaggers Pseudonym for Bob Miller and his Hinky Dinkers.
Bill Palmer (vocalist) Pseudonym for Bob Miller.
Bob Ferguson (vocalist) Pseudonym for Bob Miller.
Bob Kackley (vocalist) Listing on OK 45531 for Bob Miller.
Bob Sherman (vocalist) Listing on VT 2400-V and Cl 5336-C for Bob Miller.
Trebor Rellim (composer) Pseudonym for Bob Miller.
Slick Palmer (vocalist) Pseudonym on Sun S-3112, BB B-5012 and 1826 for Bob Miller.
Ben Weaver (vocalist) Listing on OK 45531 for Barney Burnett.
Bud Skidmore (vocalist) Pseudonym on Col 15761-D for Bob Miller
Miller and Burnett (Vocal group)
Bob Miller Trio
A. Sirillo (instrumentalist : guitar)
Bob Miller (vocalist)
Frank Novak (instrumentalist : violin)
Barney Burnett (instrumentalist : guitar) Tillywilly17 (talk) 19:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Along with Billy Hill and Carson Robison, Bob Miller was among the pioneering professional songwriters who specialized in what was then called hillbilly music. Miller wrote some of the biggest hits of the 1930s and '40s and was also a prolific recording artist.
Born in 1895 in Ansonia, Connecticut, Bob and his four siblings were placed in an orphanage in Memphis, Tennessee, around 1904 after their parents died in a house fire. By age 10, Bob, who was a formally trained musician, began working professionally as a pianist. In his early twenties, he performed in the dance band that sailed on the Mississippi River aboard the showboat Idlewild. He also worked in the Memphis nightclub Dreamland and opened his own Beale Street Music Shop.
In 1928, Miller moved to New York, where he initially worked as a copyist and arranger for Irving Berlin Music. He formed his own publishing company in 1933, and also worked as an A&R man and record producer for the Columbia and Okeh labels.
Bob Miller has more than a thousand registered song copyrights, although many of those are public-domain folk songs, Christmas carols and 19th-century Stephen Foster chestnuts that he arranged, rather than wrote. But he did truly compose a number of songs that became enormous country favorites.
His biggest early hit was the prison song "Twenty-One Years." During The Great Depression, this song was so popular and was sung by so many artists that Miller wrote a number of follow-up songs to it, including "Twenty-One Years, Part Two," "New Twenty-One Years," "Answer to Twenty-One Years," "Woman's Answer to Twenty-One Years," "After Twenty-One Years," "The End of Twenty-One Years" and "The Last of the Twenty-One Year Prisoner."
Similarly, "Seven Years with the Wrong Woman" was so omnipresent in Depression-era country music that it also spawned sequels. These included, inevitably, "Seven Years with the Wrong Man" and, humorously, "Seven Beers with the Wrong Woman" and "Seven Beers with the Wrong Man."
Perhaps his most enduring song from the Depression was the sentimental "Rocking Alone in an Old Rocking Chair," which is still sung by folk and country performers today.
Miller's activity in the 1940s was no less impressive. His million-selling "There's a Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere," recorded by Elton Britt, was one of the biggest hits of World War II. That song, too, spawned a sequel in 1960 when Dave McEnery combined Miller’s melody with new lyrics for "There's a Star Spangled Banner Waving Somewhere #2 - The Ballad of Francis Powers" in tribute to U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers, whose plane was shot down over the Soviet Union. Miller’s "Chime Bells," also recorded by Elton Britt, became a yodeling standard.
Bob Miller wrote and recorded under a number of pseudonyms, including Shelby Darnell, Bob Kackley, Lawrence Wilson, Dinny Dimes and Trebor Rellim — which was his name spelled backwards. Tillywilly17 (talk) 19:39, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
Bob was a very busy guy in the 1930s, not necessarily as a performer. My impression is that he generated a lot of income from music publishing. You have an extensive songwriting list, I am pretty
sure he published a lot of that music, too. Forgive me, I did a bunch of research months ago, and I am speaking from memory. If you are interested, I can send you a copy of my notes. Dave
      I Want to Be a Cowboy's Sweetheart
"I Wanna Be a Cowboy's Sweetheart"
Song by Patsy Montana Acc. by Prairie Ramblers
B-side "Ridin' Old Paint"
Written 1934
Published 1935 Bob Miller, Inc. Universal - On Backstreet Music Inc. 1965
Released November 1935
Recorded August 16, 1935
Studio ARC Studios, New York City
Genre Country (Hillbilly), Western
Label Melotone 51156
Songwriter(s) Patsy Montana
Producer(s) Art Satherley Tillywilly17 (talk) 15:24, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

I Know One written by Jack ClementEdit

This song has a page in Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Know_One. It gives the impression that Charley Pride is the original artist to record this song. However, Jim Reeves had a hit with it in 1960 as the b-side of "I'm Gettin' Better" (see for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Reeves_discography#1960s). I have made some small edits on Wikipedia, but adding this information to the Charley Pride page or it's own page is beyond my editing abilities at this point. I just wanted to post the fact about the original recording of this song somewhere, and maybe someone else can add the information to the appropriate pages.TonyPole (talk) 15:27, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

I've added just the most basic information, sourced to Discogs. It needs more info and a better source. GA-RT-22 (talk) 17:49, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

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The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

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Move discussion at The Cheap SeatsEdit

An editor has requested for The Cheap Seats to be moved to The Cheap Seats (song). Since you had some involvement with The Cheap Seats, you might want to participate in the move discussion (if you have not already done so). Happily888 (talk) 01:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Wrong link, the move discussion is at Talk:The Cheap Seats (Australian TV series). GA-RT-22 (talk) 22:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)