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The Saguache CrescentEdit

17:40, March 1, 2014 Orlady moved page Talk:The Saguache Crescent to Talk:Saguache Crescent over redirect (Removing definite article -- see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name) for the reasons)

You're wrong. please undo your move. Eric Corbett 17:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

  • Why haven't you sorted this out yet? Eric Corbett 13:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Too many administrators believe themselves to be infallible, even quoting policy and guidelines they've obviously never read, as you did in this case. What would you suggest as a kinder way of saying "you're a wanker"? Eric Corbett 22:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
I see nothing wrong with Eric's comments. However I do find this comment unprofessional: "I might have returned to this a bit sooner if the comments on my talk page had been a bit "nicer". Just saying." Why should my article be held up because of something that Eric said, though I can't imagine what he said that offended you. Gandydancer (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Who says we are "professional" around here? I am not paid for this. I edit Wikipedia and I do DYK reviews for free -- and most of my DYK reviews are never claimed for QPQ credit.
In interacting with humans who are volunteering their time, you need to account for some human psychology -- including the existence of human emotions. Most (more likely all) of us have conflicting demands for our time (Wikipedia is not the most important thing in my life) and most (if not all) of us have emotions that we can't always account for. If a request here rubs me the wrong way, it reduces the chance that I'm going to be motivated to drop everything and respond. If this were a professional assignment for me, I would suck it up and respond immediately, but this isn't a professional assignment, so I don't feel I have to do that. Anyway, by the time I responded to this request, I was no longer feeling grumpy about it, which probably was a better thing for all of us. --Orlady (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Being an infallible administrator Orlady found it difficult to admit that she was wrong, and childishly held up your DYK review in retaliation. Just the way it is here. Eric Corbett 23:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Orlady sure does believe in her infallibility. This talk thread[1] is very interesting. Multiple editors have told her that telling an administrator to resign isn't a personal attack but she has yet to admit she was wrong with this edit[2]....William 00:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ernest O. WollanEdit

Thank you from the DYK project and me Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Hackney Chapel AME Zion ChurchEdit

The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Re Template:Did you know nominations/ThePsychoExWife.comEdit

I'm going by this statement: "Any autoconfirmed registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose)". You could always modify the template and put yourself as nominator. I've commented on your talk page as I don't want the nom to be crowded with a wall of text not related to its promotions. EagerToddler39 (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

That statement describes the reality that only autoconfirmed users can create a template. That was drafted as an explanatory statement and added to the DYK information pages sometime after the current template-based nomination mechanism was created (before that, nominations were created directly on the noms page, which anyone can edit). I can see why you interpreted that statement to indicate that submission of DYK nominations is some sort of right or privilege that is limited to autoconfirmed users, but that was never the intent. DYK has always encouraged the participation of anonymous contributors. --Orlady (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I never suggested that anons should be "block[ed] ... from participating in DYK". As you quite rightfully summarized on the nom page they are free to recommend nominations at the DYK project talk page. However I'll defer to your explanation of the situation. EagerToddler39 (talk) 06:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Belated thanksEdit

  Belated thanks
I know this is very late but I wanted to thank you for your participation at my RfA. I was very inspired by the many that demonstrated fairness and compassion regardless of how they voted. Its the feeling of friendship and camaraderie that keeps me coming back. So, thank you for your participation and for your continued sense of fairness and compassion in all areas of WP. I look forward to continuing to work together in the days to come. Best wishes, KeithbobTalk 21:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Cranial nerveEdit

Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this nomination and see if it is ready for approval. The initial review was done by that IP-hopper who posted to WT:DYK last week, and I'd like someone who is clearly judging based on DYK rules to make sure it meets our criteria—the fact that "citation needed" templates were not considered important enough to have corrected prior to approval makes me wonder what else might have been overlooked. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Helen Fraser (feminist)Edit

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have just been informed by a bot that there had been a discussion about an article that I had created and you had contributed to at Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Fraser (feminist) because of a particular fact that I included. It was nice to have been informed of this and it would have been nicer to have been informed of this before the discussion had been closed and a decision reached. I appreciate that as the nominator, the responsibility was not yours. It occurs to me that you may be interested in helping address an issue that I think important. I have a view about how the role of women has been undervalued by history and I think wikipedia has a moral duty to rectify this but has policies that prevent this from happening. I would be happy to ellaborate on this to the relevant person/people. Graemp (talk) 09:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Graemp. Discussion of your concerns about the DYK appearance seems to have occurred on several different pages, and it took me some time to sort it all out. The WP:DYK feature exists primarily to bring attention to new and newly expanded articles, as well as new Good articles. It does this by presenting interesting facts from those articles on the main page. I nominated the Helen Fraser article for DYK after seeing it on a list of new articles. Before I nominated the article, I checked the sources that I could access and I did some editing to the article, including revisions to eliminate what I perceived to be WP:Close paraphrasing of sources.
The statement in the article that I found most interesting for DYK was (in the original article version) "In 1922 she was the first woman to be adopted in Scotland as a parliamentary candidate when she was selected as National Liberal candidate for the Govan Division of Glasgow for the 1922 General Election." The wording of that sentence was confusing, so I looked at sources to make sure I understood what was meant by "being adopted in Scotland as a candidate". In the National Dictionary of Biography I found "After the war Helen was employed as a commissioner for National Savings, resigning in 1922 to stand as the Liberal candidate for Govan, the first woman to be adopted as an official candidate in Scotland." After reading that, I added the word "official" to the sentence in the article. It was clear to me that she was a candidate for UK parliament. When I wrote the hook I retained the wording "in Scotland" to ensure consistency with the sources (I thought there was a remote possibility that a woman "in England" had previously been named as a candidate to represent Scotland, so I didn't want to say "from Scotland"). In retrospect, it's apparent that the words "candidate for parliament in Scotland" could be misunderstood as indicating that she was a candidate for parliament of Scotland (that didn't occur to me because such a parliament didn't exist in her time), but several people (including me, as well as User:Victuallers, who you contacted about this) didn't think of that possibility. It's not uncommon for people who are familiar with a topic to fail to see how someone else could misinterpret their words; linking the word "parliament" to the UK parliament was a good "fix" to indicate the meaning.
You are hardly alone in thinking that Wikipedia needs to do a better job with women's history. I suggest that you get involved with the Women's History WikiProject here. (I have, however, been dismayed to find that the W.H. Wikiproject seems to have a restrictive definition of "history," such that most accomplishments by women in the last few decades are considered to be outside its scope.) --Orlady (talk) 06:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
User:Victuallers asked me if I had done any similar articles and I flagged up Ursula Williams, but I understand that DYK runs a set of criteria that means it is 'too late' for this article to be nominated. If you are involved with promoting womens history month, this is the sort of article that might have an appeal. Graemp (talk) 10:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
There's a learning curve involved in contributing to DYK -- starting with understanding those esoteric rules for article eligibility. Now that you've had this introduction, I look forward to your contributions in the future -- we are always looking for interesting content about women (not just in Women's History Month, but pretty much every day of the year). --Orlady (talk) 14:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Marie DollingerEdit

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/USA Freedom ActEdit

Orlady, I was wondering whether you were planning to come back to this one now that Wnt has responded to your concerns, or if I should instead call for a new reviewer. If the latter, please let me know. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Help neededEdit

Dear Orlady, I hope this finds you well. I have created Mohammad Samir Hossain at Will you please help me edit and make it a better article or stub! I know you are really an expert author having due knowledge on editing at wiki. Thanks Shoovrow Shoovrow (talk) 07:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Old Deery InnEdit

Thanks for your help Victuallers (talk) 18:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Tobias Arlt, Tobias WendlEdit

Orlady, we have the situation here that a pair of articles about a team of two lugers, both named Tobias, had their articles expanded with effectively the same 600+ character Olympics section (plus other material specific to each person), and each just barely makes the 5x expansion using that repeated material. Is this something where we could (or should) do an IAR and let both names (and articles) be bolded, or require that one of them be unbolded? (Another reviewer felt that the articles were padded a bit to get them up and over the 5x level.) Can you please take a look and decide what ought to be done? I've superseded the tick because of the duplicative expansion (which was only part of the new material), and will defer to your wisdom here. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for weighing in. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


Dear Orlady, I am glad that you went through the article. I have further expanded it. Will you be kind enough to pen through it a bit. Remember its Mohammad Samir Hossain. Take Care.Shoovrow (talk) 07:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee)Edit

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

New ChangeEdit

Dear, Thanks for your kind help in editing Mohammad Samir Hossain. I have tried to change the lead sentence and this time its exactly as the reference presents, and the reference is also mentioned beside the word that can create question about verifiability. Still, if you feel like changing anything I shall always welcome. This time I have uploaded a free photo and I don't mind if the previous copyrighted one gets deleted to uphold wiki rule. Thanks. Bolton007 (talk) 04:30, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing the Givhan DYKEdit

You do realize, though, that one of the secondary sources you found, that William & Mary law review article, is in the article as a source (see note 52, the very last one). Daniel Case (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Sunuvagun! However, I discounted that "Analysis and Commentary" section. I was hoping to see secondary sources get used to help support the parts of the article that describe the case, the opinion, and subsequent jurisprudence. --Orlady (talk) 04:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
As you noted, there's still a lot of uncertainty there. I generally feel that most judges (or, let's be honest, their clerks) write in clear enough prose that summarizing and paraphrasing their opinions, with generous quotation, is sufficient. As for secondary sources, it's later decisions interpreting that decision that generally make the interpretation that counts (Honestly, I would class most appellate or higher opinions as secondary sources by our standards to begin with since, after all, they are really little more than commentary and analysis of the lower-court decision.

At some point in the future I might expand the article somewhat; I'd shore up the sources at that point. Daniel Case (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Jesse Whitesell House and FarmEdit

I just saw your WT:NRHP discussion with Dudemanfellabra regarding the Jesse Whitesell House and Farm, as well as the stub you created. As the photographer for the images currently in the article, I can tell you that it's rather confusing on the ground, too; I wasn't quite clear what I should photograph in order to get elements of both the original and the increase. If I correctly understand your words, I agree with what you've said: although it was originally located just in Kentucky, it needs to be listed as a duplicate because the increase causes the listing to include resources on both sides of the border. Nyttend (talk) 04:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, Nyttend. Your photos are, of course, the best part of the article I created. :-) --Orlady (talk) 13:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee)Edit

Victuallers (talk) 20:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/PoultryEdit

Orlady, can you please take this one under your wing? Nikkimaria had some objections, and I'm not entirely sure they've been answered. There was a suggestion at User_talk:Nikkimaria#Poultry that someone be found to look over sources—perhaps you could do whatever might be appropriate? If not, I think this one will remain stalled for the foreseeable future. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Was it the bad pun that put you off? ;-) If you aren't interested, I can certainly try to find someone else, maybe Crisco when he's fully recovered. Please let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
I started looking at it, but it was a bigger job than I had time for at the moment, and I forgot about it... Maybe I'll get to it soon. --Orlady (talk) 18:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about the size of it. If you can get back to it, that would be great. Thank you so much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hackney ChapelEdit

Any idea what this photo has to do with Hackney Chapel? I uploaded it to Commons (it's from 1912), but I wasn't sure how it was related to the church, other than being located in Unitia. Bms4880 (talk) 03:50, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I think you have the right idea regarding "both being located in Unitia". Unitia School apparently was the black school in Unitia. There's a little bit of information about it in the sources for the Hackney Chapel article, but the sources didn't clearly indicate a relationship (unlike St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee) or Durham's Chapel School, where there is a strong connection between church and school).
The Middle Tennessee State University folks had (or possibly still have) a major project to survey historical black churches. Since other community institutions were closely related to the churches, I guess it seemed natural to their archivist to put that school photo into the same bin as the materials about the local black church. --Orlady (talk) 04:03, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal ChurchEdit

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I just noticed this by accident. Good work, especially since I appreciate my photos getting used :-) Did you find anything about whether the congregation is still in existence? Between the dilapidated appearance and the damaged historical marker (I vaguely remember seeing something about the marker getting hit by a truck), I got the impression that it wasn't used for religious purposes anymore. Nyttend (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I didn't find anything when I researched the article, but after seeing your note, I looked again. I've updated the article. :-) --Orlady (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Nice workEdit

You did a nice job of expanding Christ Temple AME Zion Church to good Start level. Ammodramus (talk) 18:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Durham's Chapel SchoolEdit

  Hello! Your submission of Durham's Chapel School at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! czar  23:53, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Durham's Chapel SchoolEdit

Thanks for this contribution from me and the DYK projectVictuallers (talk) 07:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Question on WT:DYK#Rings of CharikloEdit

Orlady, there's a big discussion going on here, with the creator of the article wondering whether it's eligible.

it looks like this new discovery of the rings was initially added to the article on Chariklo on March 25, and then decided that it was better split off into its own article on March 27, with a bit of information left behind. The obvious question: since the material is effectively new as of March 25, does the newly split article on March 27 count as new, or is it a 5x expansion? And if 5x, is the expansion based on the material left behind, or on the material brought over intact? (Not all of the March 27 material, 1448 prose characters worth, is copied.) The article has been expanded since the original post to the DYK talk page, and it's now at 4849 prose characters.

I figure you'd probably be best at parsing this out. My advice was to get the nomination in now. Either it qualifies as new or it might already qualify as 5x depending on how much has been copied. Even if it doesn't qualify in terms of either, I imagine that it's close. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Maximilian LiebenweinEdit

Orlady, Gerda's latest comment contains the phrase "your turn", so I think she wants/needs/is expecting you to take the next step. Can you please take a look to see what needs to be done? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!Edit

  The Barnstar of Diligence
Orlady, I hereby bestow upon you The Barnstar of Diligence for your continued commitment to maintaining the quality and excellence of Wikipedia's Did you know project. I've been a big fan of your contributions for many years now, and so I felt that it was fitting to commend your efforts with this small token of my esteem! -- Caponer (talk) 03:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Caponer! As you know, however, I am only one of many -- and some of the others are far more diligent. --Orlady (talk) 13:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/ThePsychoExWife.comEdit

Orlady, the creator has asked a question here, in a response to your previous comment. Did you want to answer it, or should I put out a call for a new reviewer? Please let me know if it's the latter. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

That article had some gnarly issues with POV -- and also problems with presentation and sourcing. Rather than attempt a discussion with an elusive IP user, I've been editing it on-again and off-again (to the extent that my time and my limited patience with tabloid sources and opinionated blogs allow): edits since the anon's last comment. It's getting close to being ready. --Orlady (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Good to know it's being taken care of (and I very much understand about limited patience in that circumstance). BlueMoonset (talk) 14:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Philip LindsleyEdit

Thank you for this article Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Adelia Armstrong LutzEdit

Thanks from → Call me Hahc21) 16:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


Hello, Orlady. You have new messages at DC788's talk page.
Message added 21:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

...William 21:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm bothered by this post[3] of yours too. You accuse of someone of using multiple accounts. Where's your proof and why haven't you started an SPI? Didn't I hear someone not too long ago say 'serious allegations require serious evidence'?...William 22:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not sockpuppetry when the former account is not currently blocked and is not currently in use. But I know a WP:DUCK when I see one, especially with all the IP ducks we've seen. --Orlady (talk) 03:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Blogs fail WP:RSEdit

Please read WP:SPS before editing into the United Bates of America anything that is sourced from a blog....William 02:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

    • And what's that supposed to mean?...William 03:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I'm campaigning against you now. That and your link above are possible proof of you violating WP:CIVIL You still ignore WP:SPS. For the second time, explain how a wedding announcement and miscarriage are trivia and helping in a campaign and who somebody supports for President isn't? Maybe I should be preparing an ANI post when I get up in the morning....William 03:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
The article is supposed to be about a television show. What has happened to these people since the show went off the air isn't relevant to the show. Stars on tv shows, marry divorce have kids etc. after their show goes off the air, but it isn't in the article on the show. Take The Andy Williams Show for just one example. A biography article on the Bates is where it would belong. If its RSd. FWIW Musdan77 thanked me for cutting the trivia and other things out of the article....William 04:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
FTR, the edit that Musdan77 thanked you for was an edit whose main effect was to revert one of the edits in which DC788 had added a lot of the trivia that DC788 had been adding -- and I had been deleting -- over a period of several days. --Orlady (talk) 01:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Nothing new about you campaigning against me. You already declared your intention [5][6] to follow my work looking for actions that you could attack me for. I refer in particular to your statement that I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!
As for the article, I started it as an article about the family (who are local to my county) before the TV series existed, but after the family seemed to have established notability due to their appearances on another reality TV show. Someone else later recast it as an article about the show. Many of my edits to the article have been aimed at removing unsourced personal details about family members that were added by fans; I've also sparred with this particular user, who has unusual theories about the need for reference citations to describe TV shows, and who believes that information that possibly could be extracted from studying a table should not be presented in text. As for the family, the family continues to receive a lot of attention (partly because continues to appear on that other reality TV show) and family members have been taking advantage of their reality-TV fame for political activities, including their widely documented support for Rick Santorum. The marriage has been in the article for some time, but enthusiasts keep trying to add redundant statements about it, accompanied by information about blog "announcements" of positive pregnancy tests and subsequent miscarriages. I continue to contend that even though a 22-year-old woman announces a miscarriage during the first 3 months of pregnancy in her family blog, that is still a bit of fundamentally private information that does not deserve to be preserved in an encyclopedia; apparently the other user agrees, as they also stopped adding that detail. --Orlady (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Undoing editor's work when they don't follow WP:SPS is something I do.(Not counting UBOA, at least 7 times in my last 5,000 edits[7]) I've written about the use of blogs as sources on my user page. Your failure at that, WP:CIVIL aka responding to my concerns with a link to CNN story about sadistic trolls, WP:IDHT ignoring multiple times my concerns with your edits, and WP:AGF is appalling. Your contradictory behavior at United Bates of America raises WP:COMPETENCE concerns or questions whether you're practicing WP:OWN. Example- You have labelled the same source both not a RS[8] and yourself used it[9] as a source. I'm practicing WP policy but you think its a campaign against you. The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing....William 13:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
When you declared I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!, you clearly indicated why you are now scrutinizing me. This isn't random interest on your part.
As for your accusation of contradictory behavior, I believe you are confusing me with someone else. On what basis did you determine that I was responsible for that second diff of yours? That edit was by IP user As it happens, that's one of the IPs used by the person who is currently editing as DC788. --Orlady (talk) 15:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
You're really very paranoid. I'm fixing wrong edits but you think its malicious. As I said above 'The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing.'...William 22:58, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
If you don't want people to assume that your actions are motivated by personal animus, I suggest that you stop making statements like this and this. --Orlady (talk) 02:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Was this edit[10] not out of personal animus or was it due to total incompetence? I can cite at least three times, here's one of them[11] and here's another[12] where you were told your actions were wrong. Whether your answer is A or B, you shouldn't be an administrator. Resign before you once again bring disgrace to Wikipedia or cause harm to someone who didn't do anything to deserve it. Your block of me was overturned because you were dead wrong and you can't admit it. In the meantime I will continue to make sure youf and no other administrator does to some other editor what you did to me. There is nothing wrong with that kind of scrutiny either. Sphilbrick said[13] I didn't have to shut up when he unblocked me. When I am checking on you, if I see articles you worked on that can use further work, I'll continue doing that....William 22:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Quick WP:RDH-style questionEdit

Thanks for the comment at my talk. On a totally unrelated matter, as you've probably guessed if you've looked at my latest series of major edits to NR lists, I'm planning another photo trip, which will take me almost through your neck of the woods as well as through lots of other areas all over the place. As far as you're aware right now, are there any big construction projects (or other plannable things, versus problems like car accidents) on I-75 between Chattanooga and Knoxville? The goal is to go to church in Dayton on the morning of the 20th and then go a little past the Cumberland Gap that afternoon; I especially don't feel like getting stuck in a traffic jam if it's something that all the locals (and semi-locals like you) already know about. Nyttend (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

That's an ambitious plan for a 3-day road trip! (I hope you're planning on a bit longer than 3 days, if you want to cover that much territory and take pictures, too.)
I haven't been to Chattanooga recently, so I'm not aware of any construction on I-75 in that direction. The Tennessee DOT website is a fairly good source of info on roadwork on the Interstates, though. Anyway, if you want to go to Dayton, you probably are going to be away from I-75 for a substantial part of your trip. US 27 and state route 58 are a lot more interesting than I-75.
There is a major construction project on I-640 in Knoxville that is causing traffic delays, particularly during rush hour. That's relevant to you because I-75 is concurrent with the western leg of I-640 (I-640W), but I believe that the current construction is on I-640E. Anyway, if you are on a photo trip, your route north from Knoxville to Cumberland Gap might not include I-75.
When traveling in this area, you need to be aware that the ridges and valleys trend SW-NE. Travel across the grain of the topography (for example, on roads like US 25-E) can be slower than the linear distance suggests it should be, but it's often interesting. --Orlady (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the response! I hadn't at all thought of checking the TDOT website, and now that you suggested it, I've found their helpful Smartmap. I'll definitely remember your comment about the across-the-ridge driving — with one exception, all my hill-country driving has been in places like southern Indiana, where the ridges go in random directions, so no direction is naturally simpler or quicker than others. I've got a campsite reservation at Mousetail Landing on Friday night, Saturday I'll work my way to Dayton by way of MS/AL/GA/SC/NC (my parents have friends there, so I'll be indoors one night), another campsite reservation in Harlan County KY on Sunday night, and then north to Ohio to visit family for a week. Definitely not trying to get Indiana-style dense photo coverage or making long detours anywhere on this trip (except for the occasional county with just one or two sites), so the goal is to get something in six states that I've not visited in a long time (or never), and at least one site in almost every county through which I pass. Re your comment about "might not include I-75", I'm looking to go east to Athens and then northeast, and it was a debate between going interstate (and getting off for photos) or just staying on US11 until hopping on the interstate at Lenoir City and taking it as far as northern Knoxville's US441 exit, then state highways toward US25E at Tazewell. I guess I'll stay on I-40 through downtown Knoxville and skip the beltway. Nyttend (talk) 04:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I-40 through Knoxville lacks charm, but you will get a glimpse of the Sunsphere. --Orlady (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Access to deleted version of an article?Edit

Dear Orlady, assuming you're still active in the category of "Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles," could I inquire if there's a way to see the version of Alexander McCurdy that was deleted in 2008, according to User_talk:Rbiswanger#Speedy_deletion_of_Alexander_McCurdy? I'm working on the current version of the article, whose history started in 2009 -- and for comparison I'd be very interested to see the article's previous incarnation that disappeared in 2008. Thanks very much for your help, or if you can point me in the right direction. -Patrug (talk) 04:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

You've been talkpagestalking at my talkpage, so I might as well return the favor :-) Patrug, the entire contents were as follows:

Alexander McCurdy was an acclaimed organ teacher at Philadelphia's Curtis Institute of Music and was also organist of the city's First Presbyterian Church. Among his many notable students are Michael Stairs, Keith Chapman and John Binsfeld.

It was deleted under speedy criterion A7, and it was definitely a good candidate. Nyttend (talk) 04:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Got it -- thanks for the quick response! Patrug (talk) 06:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for youEdit

  The Premium Reviewer Barnstar
Thank you, Orlady, very much indeed for your tireless and patient hard work and skill in getting the complex article William Swinden Barber through its DYK preparation! Storye book (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the recognition. Meanwhile, I congratulate you on the article! --Orlady (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! --Storye book (talk) 21:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!Edit

Orlady, thank you for reviewing and editing the article for Diamond Ranch Academy! I forgot to mention this in my initial comment on the talk page, but there are also two words in the top section that the past editor added without providing adequate citation. I'm wondering if you could look into this as well? These are the words "misdemeanors" and "felonies" in the first section. Thank you for all of you help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosettej (talkcontribs) 18:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Charles I. Barber - See AlsoEdit

Well, color me corrected. I don't quite see the point of omitting relevant links while maintaining lists of marginally-related ones, but it does tell me here that it a general rule not to include in a "see also" something that is otherwise referenced in the article. [14]. Who knew? :) Well, I suppose I ought to... I'd still make the case for including his father in this list, since when he appears in the article, it's basically as his father. The rest of the "See Also" list is so marginally related as to be slightly wacky - not at all related by facts, only partially related by chronology, and only tenuously related by topic. The topic, obviously, is "other architects who have lived in Knoxville at any point in time in their lives," but out of a list of hundreds of people who would fit that bill, being that there are four who have existing Wikipedia articles, excluding one because he happens to be Charles' father certainly, to my mind, muddles whatever the purpose of the list actually is. I'd argue, contrarily, that common sense would encourage leaving him there. Archarin (talk) 20:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia has more policies and guidelines than any one person can possibly expect to be fully versed in... I happen to know about the guidelines for See also sections, and now you do, too!
Rather than adding bloat to the See also section, I suggest that the article could be developed so that (1) it contains more content about his connection to his father and the rest of the family and (2) any items on the "see also" list that are actually relevant to this article are linked within the text of the article. --Orlady (talk) 20:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Orlady is right. Per WP:See also, the section should not contain links to other articles that are already linked to in either the article or any navbox that is in the article....William 13:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
WP:SEEALSO does state that "as a general rule". There are situations where a redundant see also link is appropriate, but those situations are not common. --Orlady (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Ladies Rest RoomEdit

The DYK project (nominate) 00:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Rich Farmbrough case clarifiedEdit

The arbitration clarification request, either involving you, or in which you participated (Rich Farmbrough) has resulted in a clarification motion by the Arbitration Committee

The Clarification can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough#Clarifications_by_motion and the complete discussion can be found at Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough#Clarification_request:_Rich_Farmbrough_.28April_2014.29 For the Arbitration Committee,--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Here againEdit

Dear Orlady, I know I might be asking too much from you now a days, still I like the way you paint an article. Will u please pen through Death and adjustment hypotheses at least for once? I know it might not be a topic you are expert on, but I need some wiki expert who would shape it as a better wiki-article.Bolton007 (talk) 14:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Fruitvale, TennesseeEdit

The DYK project (nominate) 18:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Emerson EtheridgeEdit

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 14:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon inviteEdit

ABMS Open UniversityEdit

Hi Orlady,

This entry for Open University of Switzerland has reappeared in a different form ABMS Open University. This was deleted after AFD earlier this year. How does one proceed with this, recommend a PROD? Audit Guy (talk) 10:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I deleted it as a recreation of an article deleted by AFD. --Orlady (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

but the article was made before as an advertisments, now i made just simple article. NO REASON TO DELETE --Mr.Agabi (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC) I am working there and if somebody wrote an article which was full of advertisments and unclear informations and you deleted doesnt mean you allowed to Delete any article written about ABMS GmbH, OTHERWISE we will Prosecute WIKIPEDIA if this unnecessary jokes stop now --Mr.Agabi (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The article was deleted based on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. The advertorial style was not the main reason for deletion. The article was deleted because there were no reliable sources to indicate WP:Notability of the topic or to provide verifiable content for the article. If the only issue had been advertisement-like writing style, it could have been rewritten, but that was not the main issue. --Orlady (talk) 18:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
But Sorry we are new online business School in Switzerland how can you expect to see informations about us everywhere? check our website, you welcome to call us, and if in the article i wrote was anything unclear than please tell me, but just deleting because you didnt find enough sources, its normal because we are new, if you keep deleting than we must Prosecute as person and Wikipedia --Mr.Agabi (talk) 18:16, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps you are misunderstanding the purpose and scope of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a platform for announcing or publicizing new organizations. Encyclopedia content must be based on content that has already been published somewhere else by reliable sources independent of the article's subject. Please see WP:NOT and WP:Notability for more information. --Orlady (talk) 18:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
but sorry i can show you 1 million article on wikipedia and dont have reliable sources and sorry you can find about us on Governments website and other website like QS-TopUniversities, Educations and many other websites, i can list 100 websites well known for education. tell me what is the solution now? can i write a normal article with reliable sources about or school OR we not allowed to write about our organization on Wikipedia because you decided we are not reliable sources? we need to know what to tell our lawyer when we start the case against you. thank you --Mr.Agabi (talk) 18:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
should i make another article with reliable sources like Governments website, QS... and than you have look on it, if OK tell me and keep it, and hope to solve this problem without going to court, because it will be just headache for both of us but if court is the only solution for us to be on wikipedia than we will do it. I am trying here to find a solution, i hope you too. please tell me should i create new article or no. thank you --Mr.Agabi (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
I believe that the sources you mention are not reliable sources for purposes of Wikipedia. A new article based on those sources would be subject to deletion based on the conclusion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. If you believe that the conclusion of that discussion was incorrect, I suggest that you contact the administrator who closed the discussion (write to him at User talk:Stifle). --Orlady (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
A Governments website is not reliable sources thats new to hear... for sure now you tell me to contact somebody else --Mr.Agabi (talk) 19:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
The government website indicates only that this institution is a registered business. That information does not indicate notability and it is not a sufficient basis for writing an article.
I will explain why I suggested that you contact User:Stifle. It is becoming clear that you will not accept what I am telling you. That means that your next step is to ask for a formal reconsideration of the deletion decision. The Wikipedia procedure for disputing a deletion decision says that your first step should be to contact the administrator who deleted the article. --Orlady (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
By the way, earlier you said you would prosecute Wikipedia for refusing to include this article. That is not a good way to convince other Wikipedia users to do something. In fact, threats of legal action can cause your editing access to be blocked. --Orlady (talk) 19:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi Orlady, Academy of Business Management article has now been created in place of ABMS Open University. It still lacks sources, and in my opinion continues not to be notable. I was wondering - were you contacted prior to its write up? Audit Guy (talk) 12:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I have deleted that article as a recreation of an article deleted earlier by XfD. I was unaware of it before seeing your message. --Orlady (talk) 22:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Noted. Thanks. Audit Guy (talk) 12:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!Edit

Many thanks for expanding the Fruitvale, Tennessee article. It was on Nyttend's Zipcode Directory and I started the article with help from The Catalyst31. Again my thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

RFD (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigationEdit

I was suspicious of that myself, but I didn't have the time to go through with the bureaucratic bits today; thanks for looking into it. You also might want to look into A1Houseboy, who has a similar pattern of editing (and is tied to this suspicious edit). TheCatalyst31 ReactionCreation 04:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

I had looked at that user briefly, but clearly I should have looked more closely. The recent edit on your talk page clinched it for me. I blocked that user temporarily and added the user name to the SPI case. --Orlady (talk) 04:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Chicagoland (TV series)Edit

Orlady, given your issues with the earlier versions of this article, I was hoping you could stop by and check the finished version to see whether it now meets DYK standards. If you're not interested in reviewing it again, let me know here and I'll put the "again" icon on it. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)


Hi! Please don't pipe intentional disambiguation links like this - the "(disambiguation)" needs to be in the link itself to keep the page from showing up as an error. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

The real issue should be with the person who created those disambiguation pages back in 2008 and didn't bother to interlink St. Paul's United Methodist Church and St. Paul's Methodist Church, but never mind that... --Orlady (talk) 00:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Charles InmanEdit

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Page Edits [[15]]Edit


Thank you for posting your explanation with your edits. While the institution is not accredited through an external agency, the references to the U.S. Armed Services warning about diploma mills is not relevant in this situation. Hyles-Anderson College is approved for for VA Benefits through the Indiana Commission for Postsecondary Proprietary Education. The four warnings listed in the linked reference page do not apply:

  • The school does not require studying, tests or essays.
  • The school boasts of accreditation, i.e., “fully, nationally or worldwide accredited,” but has no legitimate accreditation.
  • The school relies on “portfolio assessments” or “life experience.”
  • The school advertises through e-mail messages sent to millions.

The reference cited in regard to public schools not accepting unnacredited degrees is a broken link ( and gives a blanket statement that does not give a true representation of the degree programs offered. Pandeboyce (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Adrianne Wadewitz Memorial edit-a-thonsEdit

Adrianne Wadewitz edit-a-thons in Southern New England

As you may have already heard, the Wikipedia community lost an invaluable member of the community last month. Adrianne Wadewitz was a feminist scholar of 18th-Century British literature, and a prolific editor of the site. As part of a worldwide series of tributes, New England Wikimedians, in conjunction with local institutions of higher learning, have created three edit-a-thons that will be occurring in May and June. The events are as follows:

We hope that you will be able to join us, whether you are an experienced editor or are using Wikipedia for the first time.

If you have any questions, please leave a message at Kevin Rutherford's talk page. You can unsubscribe from future notifications for Boston-area events by removing your name from this list.

Request for commentEdit

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Category: People from Kingsport, TennesseeEdit

In this edit[16] of yours you removed the category 'People from Washington County, Tennessee'. I am relinking 'People from Kingsport, Tennessee' to that category because that city is partially in Washington County. Consensus is that if a 'People from' city category is even a slightest bit in multiple counties, it gets categorized in all of them. Please note 'People from Johnson City, Tennessee' and how its categorized in three 'People from' county categories though most of the city lies in Washington County....William 18:57, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to lecture me about an edit I made over 4 years ago. I suppose you find it gratifying to take me to task for every mistake I ever made.
As it happens, I didn't even make the mistake you accuse me of. If you read the history, you will see the category had been configured to include all people from any part of a 4-county area as "people from Kingsport." My edit changed the category description to indicate that it is only for people from Kingsport, and not also people from places like Bristol, Virginia, and I removed it from inappropriate categories like Category:Bristol, Virginia and Category:People from Washington County, Virginia. Contrary to your allegations here, I didn't remove it from Category:People from Washington County, Tennessee -- because it wasn't previously in that category. --Orlady (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

New England Wikimedians summer events!Edit

Upcoming events hosted by New England Wikimedians!

After many months of doubt, nature has finally warmed up and summer is almost here! The New England Wikimedians user group have planned some upcoming events. This includes some unique and interesting events to those who are interested:

Although we also aren't hosting this year's Wikimania, we would like to let you know that Wikimania this year will be occurring in London in August:

If you have any questions, please leave a message at Kevin Rutherford's talk page. You can unsubscribe from future notifications for Boston-area events by removing your name from this list.

New England Wikimedians summer events!Edit

Upcoming events hosted by New England Wikimedians!

After many months of doubt, nature has finally warmed up and summer is almost here! The New England Wikimedians user group have planned some upcoming events. This includes some unique and interesting events to those who are interested:

Although we also aren't hosting this year's Wikimania, we would like to let you know that Wikimania this year will be occurring in London in August:

If you have any questions, please leave a message at Kevin Rutherford's talk page. You can unsubscribe from future notifications for Boston-area events by removing your name from this list.

Response needed at Bot requestsEdit

I have pinged you, BlueMoonset and Materialscientist at Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 60#Asking_for_Noting_bot, because I do not have enough bot knowledge to answer the question as to whether a bot, rather than user Preferences, can be employed for an opt out on the DYK notification bot. Hopefully, one of the three of you has such knowledge. — Maile (talk) 12:13, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

I haven't responded because I have no expertise in this area. --Orlady (talk) 13:11, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


I noticed that you were instrumental in creating the page on Betty Bumpers, also with the information on Peace Links. I just had a page sanitized concerning an event that Betty and Peace Links were involved with a number of years ago. I was wondering if you would consider being of some assistance to getting some information restored and a image. Thank you (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Did you Know?Edit

I addressed your concerns on the DYK for Gilbert & Sullivan Opera Company at the nomination's entry. Please see if it looks ok to you now. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I've looked at the changes, and I've not replied because I'm not sure what I think. --Orlady (talk) 03:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic DistrictEdit

Gatoclass (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


  The 100 DYK Nomination Medal
Congratulations for reaching this milestone of making other editors' articles visible from the main page. Keep up your good work! Oceanh (talk) 16:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Summer of Monuments 2014Edit

Outreach, Digitization, Wikification

Greetings Orlady. As you are an active Wikipedian in Tennessee I wanted to tell you about the "Wikipedia Summer of Monuments" project. Here you can find a tool that shows you nearby monuments on the National Register of Historic Places, and whether or not they've been photographed for Wikimedia Commons. Actually it seems like Oak Ridge is pretty well photographed, but you'll notice a few nearby spots like "Freels Cabin" that are still unpictured. Or maybe you feel like going on an adventure!

We are trying to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Tennessee and some other states that aren't well represented; please let me know if you have any ideas about how to do this! :-) So let's talk about it on here, or you can also email Salutations, Monumenteer2014 (talk) 19:11, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for this excellent observation about the Trail of Tears. A top priority, I would say. Soon will create links for some of the individual sites so people can find them more easily. Monumenteer2014 (talk) 23:51, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


Hello Orlady. I recall the good work you did on the Hillsdale College article, which included a lot of primary sourced description and other text. I wonder whether you could have a look at the Stefan Molyneux article, on which several editors have expressed concerns about the sourcing. Any participation there would be appreciated. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 03:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Nuts and bolts, but mostly nutsEdit

Re a posting by me that you responded to. I just want you to know my comment was not meant as a slip-up on your part, but a comment on mine. I think our nerves are a little edgy these days. Bad karma does that. I've not nominated anything since the gang blew into town. It's just too unpleasant to think about. Not that there isn't room for betterment straight across WP. But that's getting lost behind barf bag behavior. I realize you have been targeted lately. As has everybody, it seems, who dares to breathe and exist on the planet. Some sure know how to suck the joy right out of the room, but you would not be one of those. Didn't want any misunderstanding coming from me. — Maile (talk) 19:03, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining your words. I must say that I was perplexed by what seemed like negativity from you. I'm sorry that I responded as I did. My nerves are most definitely on edge these days whenever I go near DYK. This too shall pass, I hope... --Orlady (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
So we're cool with each other now. I enjoy running across your work now and then over in the "greenest state in the land of the free", over in Davy's stomping grounds. — Maile (talk) 19:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Ah, yes, that interesting man who much preferred to be "David", but apparently is "Davy" forevermore. After you created the category recently, I was pleased to help populate it... --Orlady (talk) 19:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I think I made an initial comment on the TN project that it would be good to see that article as FA. And it would. However, since I made that comment, I've had a small experience on the Featured level: FA, FL, FLC and a GA, with the intent of reaching FTC. None of which I started out to do with my first cleaning up of references tagging on the original article. A learning curve, to be sure. And a learning curve that makes me realize that even if I had every resource ever published, I could never get Death controversy past the first hurdles. But I can dream that someone else can. — Maile (talk) 19:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
On the whole, I'd rather work on creating "good enough" content than on collecting "credits" from GA, FA, etc. I did shepherd a couple of lists through FL a long time ago, and I did a number of FLC reviews. I learned a good bit from that experience. I also have done a very wee bit of GA reviewing, and I had a small role in supporting Hawkeye7's eff ort that got Manhattan Project promoted to FA. That article had been subject to a good bit of edit warring before the FA campaign, and since then it's been pretty stable. If you ever get the courage to attempt something similar for Davy, maybe it would put an end to the battles over his death. Or maybe not... --Orlady (talk) 20:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
I've been working 18 months on Audie Murphy. What started out as one poorly written article has now become six separate articles/lists on him personally, plus one about his book, and two others about a museum and hospital named for him. Who would have known? Sources on Murphy are limited. It's not at the end of the line yet. It taught me a great deal about editing at WP and how a really-properly formatted article should be. I owe a lot to the folks at WP:MILHIST for that. I can see separate articles on Crockett, for his Congressional career and for his death. Way more sources to pour through on him than Murphy.
Re Crockett's death, I prefer to believe the people who were actually inside the Alamo and attest to where he died. Even if we AGF that de la Peña told it as he believed it to did he identify who was who? No photo IDs in those days. Probably didn't have their names sewn into their underwear. We don't to this day know 100% who was inside the mission, so they didn't have a list of names. What was to stop somebody from claiming to be celebrity David Crockett in hopes of being given preferential treatment? I did see Discovery channel MythBusters on this. I believe they said de la Peña's diary was written by different people over different periods of time. we are living through right now...there are those among us who want to keep an argument going just to feel important. — Maile (talk) 21:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Please help meEdit

I cannot fix this typo (government) and I noticed that someone wrote stuff like:

"The Council are having to sell off assets because for two decades their chief executives for some reason best known to themselves were not aware that women were being underpaid, and this initiated a flood of claims from other employees past and present with crippling results to Birmingham's prestige as the Second City. Liam Bryne the Labour MP for Hodge Hill has so far failed to support residents in their fight to have these sub-standard and dangerous blocks bulldozed."

on the Bromford article but I am unsure what to do. Poveglia (talk) 03:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts to correct misspellings of "government." That's a good way to get started as an editor of Wikipedia.
You couldn't correct the typo in State of Palestine because that article is protected from editing by newly registered users -- a restriction that helps prevent the frequent addition of opinionated rhetoric, like the content you found at Bromford.
I fixed the problems you detected in both articles, and I added a comment at Talk:Bromford. --Orlady (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your help! I may have to declare war on goverment. Poveglia (talk) 23:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering you again but I found more "opinionated rhetoric" here. I started by fixing the typo, but then I reverted back to Dual Freq's version. The IP is blocked now but I am not sure if the most recent edit should be reverted. Thanks again, Poveglia (talk) 02:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
That last edit was OK. The content that was deleted didn't belong in an encyclopedia article. See WP:NOTNEWS and WP:UNDUE for perspective on the Wikipedia policies that indicate why that content didn't belong here. --Orlady (talk) 13:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Paratropis tuxtlensis DYKEdit

Would I be safe in assuming that there's no longer any chance for my DYK? I'm new to Did you know, so I don't know how this works. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 00:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

No worries. We are waiting for a new reviewer to appear at Template:Did you know nominations/Paratropis tuxtlensis and evaluate the hook that I suggested. I expect that the hook will be approved, but I can't approve it because I wrote it. --Orlady (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Argentine quota lawEdit

Gatoclass (talk) 11:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Land ownership in the State of PalestineEdit

Hello Orlady, your name came up in the history of the page so I figured I will approach you with this problem. The above linked article was stable for a number of years with the name Palestinian land laws. An editor came along moved it three times in one day and finally decided on the name above. This is obviously a controversial move and this should have gone through the process at WP:RM. It can only be moved back by an administrator which is why I come to your talk page. Can you please move it back so the stable name so that any proposal should go through the proper process required for such non-technical moves. Many thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee)Edit

The DYK project (nominate) 21:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for George A. DickelEdit

The DYK project (nominate) 02:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

July 2014Edit

  Hello, I'm WilliamJE. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. For your less mature editor comment at User talk:EEng. ...William 13:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

How lovely to know that you are continuing in your personal vendetta against me, User:WilliamJE. The folks who created Wikilove will surely be gratified to see the tool being used for personal attacks. --Orlady (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Lena NyadbiEdit

Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this. The article was apparently expanded by banned user Russavia using an IP, and probably using a different IP to intervene in the DYK discussion. It's been sitting for 19 days; I'd like to get it broken free by an admin who better understands the issues around banned users, since I can remember some instances of nominations getting closed and some where they were preserved (though that difference might be due to self-nominations not surviving, while noms by others were retained). Thanks for anything you can do here; if you'd rather not weigh in, I'll see who else might be willing to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bemis, TennesseeEdit

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

NPOV issue on Kevin Huffman pageEdit

Hi, orlady. Since you have edited this page in the past, I wanted to let you know that there is a NPOV issue on the latest revision to the Kevin Huffman page. It was made by Sallysuzzi at 04:34, 23 July 2014.

The added text is as follows:

"Since his appointment, Huffman has become known for messing up Tennessee's education system with unfair teacher evaluations. A record breaking number of teachers have left the profession due to Huffman's tactics. Children as young as age 5 had to take developmentally inappropriate standardized test under Huffman's lead. The SAT-10 test that many of the students took for teacher evaluation purposes was not based on Tennessee state standards. This means teachers were and still are evaluated based on a test that does not cover the material they teach. As a result many teachers have lost their jobs and a campaign has been launched by many state representatives and others calling for his resignation."

Thanks for taking a look at this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert. I edited the article. --Orlady (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

List of municipalities in TennesseeEdit

Hello, Orlady:

List of municipalities in Tennessee is outdated, and not, in its current state, one of Wikipedia's best. Thus, I'm nominating it for featured list removal. The relevant discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of municipalities in Tennessee/archive1. Thanks. Seattle (talk) 15:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

HOP RanchEdit

Hi orlady,

The subject article was published this past weekend, and I've been trying to get it placed in WikiProject areas that make the most sense. I believe HOP Ranch may fit better in American Old West than anywhere else.

I also feel strongly that it is well beyond start class. I think it's at least class B. I'm wondering if you might consider reviewing it and evaluating for yourself.

Thanks in advance!

Dnforney (talk) 23:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you please review my DYK reviewsEdit

Hello User:Orlady, I am a relatively new editor and I saw a message on the Administrator Noticeboard saying that DYK was overdue. I would like to help as much as humanly possible, so I have proceeded to do 4 DYK reviews. Before doing so I read the DYK guidelines. The reviews I have done are:

I would be happy to do more if there is a need for it. I saw your name on one review so before I do more could you please review my reviews and advise me if I am doing everything ok. Many thanks, PNGWantok (talk) 19:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Concordia College and UniversityEdit

Can you visit the Concordia College and University article? I know you have history on it and I'm hoping you can help resolve a conflict. There is information in the talk page under Location section changes.

ThanksBcostley (talk) 03:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Desisto stuffEdit

May I beg you help with something I'm trying reorganize and get rid of the POV stuff I put in ages ago when I was a newbie. I don't know how to do stuff like redirecting sections. Basically the school stuff doesn't belong in the Michael DeSisto article. However a hotlink or howver it's done should point to the controversies section of DeSisto School to make both articles cleaner.

Template:Did you know nominations/RaphinaeEdit

Orlady, both the nominator and editor of the article have commented since your last post here. I can't figure out where this stands; can you please take another look, and take whatever step comes next? Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:03, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Pocahontas SchoolEdit

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Rocky TopEdit

What topography described in the song's lyrics is found East TN, but not Middle or West TN? Bms4880 (talk) 22:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, start with the juxtaposition "rocky" and "top" (often interpreted to refer to the Smoky Mountains, notwithstanding the claims of the former Lake City), which indicates rugged mountain topography, not rolling hills. Then there are the lyrics about the two strangers who climbed on rocky top -- "climbing" suggests a significant amount of topographic expression -- and soil that's too rocky to grow corn. To me, those characteristics set the song in East Tennessee -- unless you want to quibble that those conditions can also be found in places in easternmost Middle Tennessee (e.g., Fentress, Pickett, or Sequatchie counties). What's your thinking on this? --Orlady (talk) 23:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
It's widely documented (or at least claimed) to have been written in Gatlinburg: [17], [18]. Every speculation I've ever seen about "where is Rocky Top" has always referred to places in East Tennessee (for example: [19]). --Orlady (talk) 23:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
I couldn't help but notice that paragraph #3 in that last article you cited was copied-and-pasted from the Wikipedia article. In any case, the song is more popular with East Tennesseans, and the Bryants were probably thinking of the Smokies when they wrote it, but it is speculation to say the song's lyrics refer specifically to East Tennessee. Bms4880 (talk) 21:12, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Valid point. User:WilliamJE has fixed the article. --Orlady (talk) 14:39, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't mean to get your old friend WilliamJE involved. Bms4880 (talk) 17:11, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Mendelsohn houseEdit

Orlady, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at this nomination, which has been stalled for four weeks after a disagreement over the article's neutrality. Please let me know. Thanks as always for your excellent work on DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:17, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Annadel, TennesseeEdit

Hello Orlady, My name is Roni Freels. I am concerned about the article on your talk page referring to my hometown Annadell, Tennessee. I have information for the gentleman who apparently is arguing that Annadell is located in Scott county. I was born in the Annadell area of Lancing, Tenn. You are absolutely right about the Annadell Baptist church. My daddy helped to construct the earlier church, not the one standing in the same place today. We lived only a few feet from the church. I remember many Sunday's listening my daddy teach my class. I am crushed that the man writing the response to you that Annadell does not exist. I certainly can attest to its presence. Directly before my daddy passed away he turned the land he owned over to Guy Griffith, a friend and member of the Annadell Baptist Church. The reason my dad gave them the land was to establish another cemetery where he preffered to be buried. He and my mother are both buried in the Annadell cemetery directly across the road from the church. My daddy wanted to be buried under the tree where he and my mother courted, and that is exactly where he is. His grave is at the top of the cemetery next to the road marked "Freels". Perhaps if the one in question would look in the Lancing area on route 27 he would find the road to the cemetery across from the old Haun place. Thank you for your talk. Perhaps this will help. God Bless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

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Deleting my articleEdit

Can you please tell me why it was deleted? I see your reason however its because the school didnt have any accreditation that time, now if you can see on the article it has many accreditations. please check again before deleting. thanks--Markos200 (talk) 00:30, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Are you asking about Academy of Business Management? I deleted that article because it was substantially a re-creation of an article that was deleted earlier following a deletion discussion, specifically the discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. --Orlady (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
But did you not see the different ? when the discussion was going on, that time didnt have any accreditation, now you can see its accredited and member by well know accreditation bodies. Please check again, its almost 1 year old the reason of deleting, there are updated information which I wrote on the new article, CHECK: OR OR OR OR OR OR OR and many more if you are interested :) --Markos200 (talk) 23:28, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
The article was deleted for lack of evidence of notability. The article that I deleted was much the same as the one deleted after the earlier deletion discussion. The fact that this organization appears on the lists that you cite here does not make it notable by Wikipedia's criteria. Additionally, your citations do not convince me that ABMS is accredited. --Orlady (talk) 13:58, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
The new article I wrote was with MANY additional links to WELL KNOW accreditation bodies, I spent hours to prepare it, if my citations didn't convince you maybe because you dont know the links I sent you :) I dont need to convince you if its accredited or not, you are not ministry of education, we are here to help in order to improve wikipedia articles, BUT ANYWAY let me explain you about the links I sent if you dont have time to know about it, but please note, I am not responsible here to convince you, we just write true facts, even if it didnt convince you.

I have sent you too many links and I have more, I dont want to spend hours on explaining you, let me just give short information to you:

- IF ASIC and British Government (Home Office ITS A MINISTRY in UK its not a private company) are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

- IF OFQUAL, SFEDI, ASIQUAL are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

- IF NCC, DCSF, Ofqual, DBIS is not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

  • 4. its member by (ACBSP) on January 22, 2001, the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) Board of Directors granted recognition to the ACBSP.<ref>CHEA Directory</ref> On September 19, 2011 The CHEA renewed its recognition of the ACBSP for a further 10 years.<ref>CHEA Recognition Summary</ref> its just a member not accredited but a member means that this school is equivalent to US Regionally accredited institutions or at least has right to grant degrees [22]

- IF ACBSP and CHEA are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source.

  • 5. its member by ECBE, (ECBE is a registered affiliate of the European Association for Quality Assurance in Higher Education (ENQA).<ref>"AFFILIATES ENQA". External link in |journal= (help)</ref>) and they are working on ECBE accreditation as well, you can call ECBE president.

- IF ECBE and ENQA are not notability source than I dont know what is a notability source. DO YOU WANT MORE we still have many links, like EFQM, ISO...?? Believe me, they are more accredited than 90% of schools with articles on Wikipedia. Please check links I sent you before just writing an answer. before I wrote this article, I called the accreditation bodies, I checked links, I wanted make sure what I write. I didnt spend hours on preparing an article in the end you say (do not convince me) I am not here to convince you, we are here to write true facts, if you are willing to know the truth you have to search not just read and say didn't convince me, please check before you answer I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, ALL THOSE LINKS ABOVE they were not in discussion 1 year ago :) how can you say its the same, I am surprised --Markos200 (talk) 14:38, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

If you think that appearing on a bunch of online lists (regardless of who published those lists) is sufficient to make an organization notable by Wikipedia standards, then you haven't comprehended [{WP:Notability]] and WP:ORG. --Orlady (talk) 03:28, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
lets make it point by point, now you agreed that my new article was not similar to old article, that's great :) finally, but again my long explanation and after 4 days didnt convince Orlady, I know very well what a notability source is, but if all above links for you are not notability sources it means there are no more notability sources, I gave you links up a ministerial department of the Government of the United Kingdom but you still dont like, I am afraid to tell you show me HOW my links are not notability sources, start to give me examples if you can. REMEMBER you are here to write true facts and not your opinion. People are not interested to read on WIKIPEDIA what Orlady believing, they are interested to see true facts and Wikipedia is the right place where we should be neutral when we write something.

Links I gave you

  • British Government
  • Home Office (ministerial department of the Government of the United Kingdom, responsible for immigration, security, and law and order. As such it is responsible for the police, UK Visas and Immigration, and the Security Service (MI5)
  • ASIC (Recognized accreditation in UK, in UK you cant enter as student if your school or university not accredited by ASIC, QAA or BAC, just for you to know how important is this accreditation)
  • SFEDI (Accredited Qualifications)
  • Ofqual (its Part of Ministry of Education in UK)
  • ASIQUAL (Accredited Qualifications)
  • National Computing Centre (established as an Information technology initiative by the British Government in 1966 and Recognized by Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (DBIS) in the UK)
  • ACBSP USA I hope you know it :) because you are from USA :)
  • CHEA USA I hope you know it :) because you are from USA :)
  • ECBE (well known accreditation body in Europe)
  • European Association for Quality Assurance in Higher Education (ENQA) IF you dont know this organization you better check :)
  • EFQM (European first quality for management)
  • ISO (I think you know it :)

AND MANY MORE... ALL THOSE LINKS DIDN'T HAVE 1 year ago in the discussion. What I can offer you in order to solve this discussion is to prepare a better article with many notability sources like british Government, CHEA, ENQA..., I will re-write it with all those new links and you may check, if you like it, means keep it, if not we can discuss again, because just ignoring true facts wont help you as administrator on Wikipedia, those links are well known worldwide and people use them as notability sources and nobody can say no. if ok, please inform me. thanks --Markos200 (talk) 09:43, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

List of city nicknames in the United StatesEdit

I'd like to re-organize this article, and I want to get the backstory first. What can you tell me about any history and plan for this article? See also Talk:List_of_city_nicknames_in_the_United_States#Slogans.3F. I'll be reading the talk page meanwhile. Tom Haws (talk) 18:27, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Guilford GlazerEdit

Hello. Guilford Glazer died last Tuesday. I've added a reference (just got the e-mail). I will add an infobox. Funny that we are both interested in TN and BH!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:28, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Historically segregated white schools in the United StatesEdit

Hello, I wanted to let you know I nominated Category:Historically segregated white schools in the United States for deletion. I hope you will understand my rationale. If it is populated, it will contain most all of the high school-related Wikipedia articles in the South. Separate but equal was in name only and while many of the "white schools" are still in operation and racially integrated, the smaller black school buildings have long been shuttered. – Gilliam (talk) 14:23, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Oak Ridge gatehousesEdit

I was wondering if you could provide a reference for the last sentence in the History section on the Oak Ridge gatehouses: The Bethel Valley Road large structure was painted in 2005 but there has been no restoration or other attention to the interiors of the two Bethel Valley structures and the small structures at the other sites. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:13, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I've found (and inserted) a reference that supports some of the content there. I'm sure that there was a more complete source at one time. --Orlady (talk) 02:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC) Further: The source of the information seems to be User:SmithDRay, who also happens to be the person quoted in the reference I cited. I can vouch for the truth of the statement that there has been no restoration of the Bethel Valley structure or the small structure at the other sites. If I wanted to know what year the Bethel Valley structure was painted, I'd ask D. Ray, as he probably has the records in his office. (But that's a detail that Wikipedia probably doesn't need.) --Orlady (talk) 03:02, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Much appreciated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

X-10 Graphite ReactorEdit

Hi Orlady. This is just to let you know that there is an article up at AfD about the X-10 reactor: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/World's First Nuclear Power Generated Electricity Used A Jensen 50 Steam Engine. Not canvassing here or anything, but the user (User talk:Reddrryder) may introduce himself soon on the talk page of the article, which has been pretty quiet lately. He has some information about X-10 as the world's first nuclear power generator, and as far as I can see it's not in the article yet. So if he does show up, can somebody give him a welcome? Thanks. – Margin1522 (talk) 10:33, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Burritt CollegeEdit

Hi, I need you to review Burritt College for me. It seems that CorenSearchBot thinks I copied copyrighted material. :( --ACase0000 (talk) 06:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Just a quick note: while there was no straight-up copyvio, the Corenbot notice was probably triggered by WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. I did some further rewording, and added material from two other sources, so it should be safe. Bms4880 (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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You may remember this RFC. Unfortunately, PBS has ignored your advice and is once again using exactly the same arguments on Talk:Guy Fawkes Night. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of it. Is there anything to be done? Parrot of Doom 22:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Clinton Engineer WorksEdit

I have Clinton Engineer Works up for Good Article nomination. Since you're an expert, would you consider reviewing it? If you have the time. Regards. Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Where's Orlady?Edit

Orlady, where are you? It seems strange without seeing you around WP once in a while. Your last edit was 6 months ago. Just - poof! with no explanation? — Maile (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Where is Orlady? Bms4880 (talk) 22:34, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
I suppose it could be said I've found new ways to waste my time. I had no idea it had been so long, though! --Orlady (talk) 23:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Good to know you're OK, and just engaged in other activities. — Maile (talk) 12:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Orlady, it is good to hear back from you! With every good wish...Audit Guy (talk) 03:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Indeed. We sure do miss you. All the best. Drmies (talk) 21:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
  • It's reassuring to see that you are still at least watching your talk page. You are missed both as a solid content contributor, also for your opinions on debates, and as an admin. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Bates familyEdit

Hello Orlady,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Bates family for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Mr RD (talk) 15:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi orlady. Someone connected to the program is deletingn large amounts of sourced contributions on the Island View RTC page claiming, again, that the name is changed so it is not historically relevant. I disagree. Please address. It would be most appreciated. (talk)- —Preceding undated comment added 08:55, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

OIKOS Software Inc. page deletionEdit

Hi Orlady You are listed as a editor that could provide a copy of a deleted page that was done in August 2015 as part of a huge deletion list under orangemoody. This is very confusing to our business a we thought a reliant wiki editor put up the page. It appears this person we was impersonating a wiki editor. Now we are deleted. Based on our recollection, there was no copyright issues on the page, but could have been deleted for such. Can you help us? We would like someone like yourself to tell us why it was taken down. Kind regards, Janice Leahy50.247.201.61 (talk) 19:40, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

This has been handled at --Orlady (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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AfD of an article you createdEdit

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Association of Educators for World Peace - as it stands, that's a really terrible article with one editor making huge additions since your stub. Doug Weller talk 12:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Cheryl Arutt COIEdit

Hi old friend. I just got off the phone with her sister and she was screaming at me and says Cheryl thinks I'm stalking her. I did the best I could to polish the article breaking it into sections etc. However, Cheryl herself wrote the bulk of the article herself. She is a COI editor, and I'm likely a little bit myself. I would ask you to take a look at it. Inho all the primary sources have to be chopped. The article is imbalanced overcited in some areas and sorely lacking sources in others. Is there anyway we can whittle it back to a stub by losing the weak cites, the trivial unsourced claims, and quite frankly self-indulgent puffery that I whittled away some from her article. She really is barely notable when you don't count the primary sources which are all redundant anyways I know you edit fast so that's why I'm asking you. Cheryl Arutt--Wlmg (talk) 07:42, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll give it a try. So far I've made a couple of very minor edits. --Orlady (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
There may also may be a copyright vios issue on the pic as it is not a snapshot , but a screen shot from a Ted talk. Thank you for your help. --Wlmg (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


Orlady, you opened two individual GA reassessments back in August 2013: Talk:Entranceway at Main Street at Roycroft Boulevard/GA2 and Talk:Entranceways at Main Street at Lamarck Drive and Smallwood Drive/GA2.

You listed a number of significant concerns at the time, including possible overclose paraphrasing, broadness (not covering some areas, while covering others in excessive detail), OR, etc. You also raised the question as to whether the two articles ought to be combined into a general article on entranceways.

It is past time, three years later, to wind up these reassessments. As the issues you raised were significant, I don't think it's appropriate just to shut them down without a current assessment.

I'm hoping you return soon, and will be willing to post a comment to each of these. In the meantime, I plan to ask Nikkimaria to assess both articles as to possible close paraphrasing, and once she's done that, ask Wizardman to look over your points and see whether they have been adequately addressed. I did post a Status query to the Lamarck Drive GAR, pinging both you and TonyTheTiger, who replied and could thus work on any remaining issues.

Thanks, and I hope you are well, even if not here much any more. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Orlady, I appreciate the response on the reassessment pages. As I noted there, you're the official reviewer, and these are both individual reassessments. As you clearly believe these articles do not meet the GA criteria at the present time, it's up to you to delist them. (Instructions are at WP:GAR; I can take care of the technicalities if that part is a problem.) If you're not going to do that, then the other option is to close the reassessment with no action taken (effectively "kept"). (Again, I can take care of the technicalities.) If you don't want to make a decision but still want this pursued, then once your individual reassessments have been closed, a community reassessment could be opened, as TonyTheTiger mentions, but not while the individual ones remain open. Please post your decision on the reassessment pages. I don't feel I can act absent specific instructions on your part. Thanks again. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:48, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Orlady, this is just a final ping. Since you haven't taken further action per the above, I'm going to consult with one more person who is quite experienced at GAR (though on the community side) to see what they recommend, and go with that unless you respond sooner. I hope you're having a very happy New Year. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

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S-50 (Manhattan Project)Edit

Back in 2006 you saved S-50 (Manhattan Project) from being merged. I thought you might enjoy seeing what it looks like now. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:53, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Vernon JarrettEdit

Hi, could you please weigh in on this issue? --bender235 (talk) 23:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Notable people of Oak Ridge, TennesseeEdit

Per here[23], these sections are for people born or lived in a community. Not worked, went to school, or died. I put a proper heading on the section (Which I notice you were the one to add(]) and removed entries who are only on it for their affiliation with Oak Ridge Laboratories....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:39, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar for You!Edit

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Here is a Barnstar for you due to your extremely massive amount of work at the DYK? section of Wikipedia! Futurist110 (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome for the Barnstar!
Also, whether you want to come back to the DYK? section or not is completely up to you. Personally, I myself have generally alternated between being very active on Wikipedia versus not being very active. Indeed, it all depends on what exactly works best for you! :) Futurist110 (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!Edit

  The List of Counties in West Virginia made the front page in Wikipedia today, 10/30/2017, I wanted to say thanks for all of your help Coal town guy (talk) 17:37, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World ContestEdit

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Category:Historically segregated white schools in the United States has been nominated for discussionEdit


Category:Historically segregated white schools in the United States, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rhadow (talk) 12:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)


Purple drank has been for eight years. Are articles normally indefinitely protected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:10, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Western Governors UniversityEdit


As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know that I've started WikiProject Western Governors University, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of WGU. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks! Paul Smith111977 (talk) 12:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).

  Administrator changes


  Guideline and policy news

  • After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
  • Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

  Technical news

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2018).

  Administrator changes

  AsterionCrisco 1492KFKudpungLizRandykittySpartaz
  Optimist on the runVoice of Clam

  Interface administrator changes

  AmorymeltzerMr. StradivariusMusikAnimalMSGJTheDJXaosflux

  Guideline and policy news

  • Following a "stop-gap" discussion, six users have temporarily been made interface administrators while discussion is ongoing for a more permanent process for assigning the permission. Interface administrators are now the only editors allowed to edit sitewide CSS and JavaScript pages, as well as CSS/JS pages in another user's userspace. Previously, all administrators had this ability. The right can be granted and revoked by bureaucrats.

  Technical news

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. The time when you can't edit might be shorter than an hour.
  • Some abuse filter variables have changed. They are now easier to understand for non-experts. The old variables will still work but filter editors are encouraged to replace them with the new ones. You can find the list of changed variables on They have a note which says Deprecated. Use ... instead. An example is article_text which is now page_title.
  • Abuse filters can now use how old a page is. The variable is page_age.


  • The Arbitration Committee has resolved to perform a round of Checkuser and Oversight appointments. The usernames of all applicants will be shared with the Functionaries team, and they will be requested to assist in the vetting process. The deadline to submit an application is 23:59 UTC, 12 September, and the candidates that move forward will be published on-wiki for community comments on 18 September.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).

  Administrator changes

  BgwhiteHorsePunchKidJ GrebKillerChihuahuaRami RWinhunter

  Interface administrator changes

  Cyberpower678Deryck ChanOshwahPharosRagesossRitchie333

  Oversight changes

  Guerillero NativeForeigner SnowolfXeno

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
  • Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.


  • The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
  • The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
  • Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
  • Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2018).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • Partial blocks is now available for testing on the Test Wikipedia. The new functionality allows you to block users from editing specific pages. Bugs may exist and can be reported on the local talk page or on Meta. A discussion regarding deployment to English Wikipedia will be started by community liaisons sometime in the near future.
  • A user script is now available to quickly review unblock requests.
  • The 2019 Community Wishlist Survey is now accepting new proposals until November 11, 2018. The results of this survey will determine what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year. Voting on the proposals will take place from November 16 to November 30, 2018. Specifically, there is a proposal category for admins and stewards that may be of interest.


  • Eligible editors will be invited to nominate themselves as candidates in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 4 until November 13. Voting will begin on November 19 and last until December 2.
  • The Arbitration Committee's email address has changed to arbcom-en Other email lists, such as functionaries-en and clerks-l, remain unchanged.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:19, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter messageEdit

 Hello, Orlady. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Ediblelogo.gifEdit


Thanks for uploading File:Ediblelogo.gif. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 03:25, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2018Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).

  Administrator changes

  Al Ameer sonRandykittySpartaz
  BosonDaniel J. LeivickEfeEsanchez7587Fred BauderGarzoMartijn HoekstraOrangemike

  Interface administrator changes

 Deryck Chan

  Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
  • A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
  • A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
  • A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

  Technical news



  • In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
  • Wikipedia policy requires administrators to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.


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Administrators' newsletter – January 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

  Guideline and policy news

  1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
  2. R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
  3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

  Technical news

  • Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
  1. At least 8 characters in length
  2. Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
  3. Different from their username
User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on
  • Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
  • {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.



  • Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
  • Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).

  Administrator changes

  Harro5Jenks24GraftR. Baley

  Interface administrator changes


  Guideline and policy news

  • A request for comment is currently open to reevaluate the activity requirements for administrators.
  • Administrators who are blocked have the technical ability to block the administrator who blocked their own account. A recent request for comment has amended the blocking policy to clarify that this ability should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as account compromises, where there is a clear and immediate need.
  • A request for comment closed with a consensus in favor of deprecating The Sun as a permissible reference, and creating an edit filter to warn users who attempt to cite it.

  Technical news

  • A discussion regarding an overhaul of the format and appearance of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection is in progress (permalink). The proposed changes will make it easier to create requests for those who are not using Twinkle. The workflow for administrators at this venue will largely be unchanged. Additionally, there are plans to archive requests similar to how it is done at WP:PERM, where historical records are kept so that prior requests can more easily be searched for.


  • Voting in the 2019 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2019, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2019, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
  • A new IRC bot is available that allows you to subscribe to notifications when specific filters are tripped. This requires that your IRC handle be identified.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • A new tool is available to help determine if a given IP is an open proxy/VPN/webhost/compromised host.


  • The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
    • paid-en-wp has been set up to receive private evidence related to abusive paid editing.
    • checkuser-en-wp has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon at Vanderbilt for REAL SymposiumEdit

Hope you can join us this Saturday!--Heathart (talk) 18:38, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Sounds like fun, but I don't think I can make it. Thanks for the invite! Orlady (talk) 03:47, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

  Technical news



  • Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
  • As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circularEdit

Administrators must secure their accounts

The Arbitration Committee may require a new RfA if your account is compromised.

View additional information

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)Edit

ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  Technical news

  • XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.


  • In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically. All current administrators have been notified of this change.
  • Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).

  Administrator changes

  AndonicConsumed CrustaceanEnigmamanEuryalusEWS23HereToHelpNv8200paPeripitusStringTheory11Vejvančický

  CheckUser changes


  Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
  • An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
  • An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.

  Technical news

  • The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
  • Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.


Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).

  Administrator changes

  28bytesAd OrientemAnsh666BeeblebroxBoing! said ZebedeeBU Rob13Dennis BrownDeorDoRDFloquenbeam1Flyguy649Fram2GadfiumGB fanJonathunderKusmaLectonarMoinkMSGJNickOd MishehuRamaSpartazSyrthissTheDJWJBscribe
1Floquenbeam's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
2Fram's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

  Guideline and policy news

  • In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.

  Technical news

  • The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.


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