User talk:AndrewRT/Archive 20 Mar 2012

discretino

Concede the no of ills and oil depletions wont mind —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.173.149 (talk • contribs)

File:WLAatVandA.svg

Hi, I deleted File:WLAatVandA.svg and File talk:WLA@V&A.svg on Commons because the two files were blank. Your svg code was linking to images on your computer and so they could not be displayed. If you want to make an SVG, you should trace the images rather than include them directly. Pruneau^talk 11:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing this up - I got them uploaded eventually but it didn't work originally. AndrewRT(Talk) 00:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your help. I double post because I didn't know if you would check my talk page on Swedish Wikipedia.//SvHannibal (talk) 10:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed - thank you! AndrewRT(Talk) 00:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

About archiving

My apologies for reverting you on that, but please see User talk:Ben MacDui#Archive, where we already went back and forth on the same thing. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:46, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

So you did - apologies I didn't see it. I only partially archived it and there seems to be a clear consensus developing - if you pardon the circularity! - in favour of consensus/70% but definitely not 30% or majority. Given the number of "partial support" comments I think we actually need a new proposal - care to help me draft one? AndrewRT(Talk) 22:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, I really have no expectation that the snowy ones are going to go any differently than they already have. I just want to get as many editors as possible weighing in on this particular point, and I think the most unbiased results will come from seeing all the options together. My advice would be to improve what we've got, not to start over from scratch. But I'll definitely lobby hard that we really fix up the one we've got, not just plug in poll results mindlessly, and I'm pretty confident we'll have agreement to do that.--Tryptofish (talk) 22:59, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Notification: Proposed 'Motion to Close' at Wikipedia:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC re: a 'Motion to close', which would dissolve Cda as a proposal. The motion includes an !vote. You have previously commented at this page.Jusdafax 04:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

You do not understand the copyright situation at en.WS

I checked my email after the holiday to find two "GoogleAlerts" mentioning Wikisource. In them you are quoted by promoting the addition of materials that have unacceptable copyright status to the English Wikisource. You should have these quotes corrected if at all possible. The US does not recognize the rule of the shorter term and as Wikisource servers are in the US the copyright status of these items in the UK is more or less irrelevant. The items that you were promoting as recent UK copyright expirations can instead be added toWikilivres whose server is in Canada, a coutry that recognizes the rule of the shorter term. In the future, please do a little more legwork directly with the project you hope to promote before you start talking to the press.--BirgitteSB 19:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting on this BirgitteSB - we recognise the complexity of international copyright law and would welcome working with you on this in the future if you can. Please let me know about the press coverage you have seen. The press release we sent out was mostly drafted by Charles Matthews, who is a regular contributor and admin on Wikisource. I am a regular contributor on Wikipedia and Commons, so I am aware of international copyright law but it was mostly Charles' work. Our press release is available at[1] and may be more useful than referring to the published story. We do refer to things becoming public domain in the UK, which is where that particular comment arose, and it was a press release relating to the UK. In retrospect we should have made more reference to US copyright law when talking about wikisource, and we'll do as correction as requested. You are right to say that wikisource uses US copyright law. However, I understand 1 January is still relevant for wiksource for items first published in the US after 1 January 1978 2003 or which were only published outside the US. Please correct me if I am wrong. AndrewRT(Talk) 11:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't forget the effect of copyright restorations through the URAA... Lupo 12:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

This is the[2] I saw. I don't know of any texts that the Jan 1st date is relevant for, although there must be some out there. It is much more likely to find old pictures that were never published until after 2003, than old texts. The URAA reference about why all the things which might have expired through non-renewal are still going to be under copyright in the US even though they became PD in the EU. Or is there something else I am forgetting?--BirgitteSB17:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

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After tolling up the votes in the revision proposals, it emerged that 5.4 had the most support, but elements of that support remained unclear, and various comments throughout the polls needed consideration.

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How come you signed this post [3] with a completly different signature and identity?–– Jezhotwells (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Jezhotwells. I thought afterwards that would cause confusions... Steve is organising it and I'm helping him out - he asked me to copy the messages to other people's webpages to make it easier for him. In retrospect I should have made that clearer in the message and I'm sorry if it caused any problems for you. AndrewRT(Talk) 22:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi. I need everyone to help me improve another article about Egyptian Shura Council election that are being held today. thank you -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 23:33, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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Many thanks - now to make this a success! AndrewRT(Talk) 13:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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Dear Andrew

I found a mistake with a page that i think you made it its this one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasim_Abid_Muhammad_Hammadi_al-Fahadawi

the name is Qasim Mohammad Abid Hammadi al-Fahadawi

its not as you awrote it , i could change the content of the page with the correct name but i didnt know how to change the whole page name

Regards Mohammed —Preceding unsigned comment added by195.229.237.37 (talk) 03:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for picking this up. I don't have any personal knowledge of this person, but I've done a simple search of the internet and found this:

• Niqash supports my order
• Iraq The Model Blog has the same
• US Army supports mine
• The UNDP, (andhere)on the other hand, has Mohammad first

Do you have any sources that could resolve the matter one way or another? Many thanks AndrewRT(Talk) 22:12, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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I would do it myself but I suck drawing in general little alone using the computer to draw. thanks -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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Could you comment on this? I want to publish it more but want some buy in from you and Joseph and Derby Museum Victuallers (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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An image that maps the process following the 2011 Egyptian Constitutional Referendum if the result is Yes or No.

Hey there Andrew! How have you been? I hope all is well.

I was wondering if you could help out with this. A constitutional referendum will be held soon in Egypt, and the image here describes what would follow either result. It's in Arabic, and I've been working with another editor to translate it to English. We've put that in annotations on the image's Commons page[5]. But I can't handle anything beyond Paint, and we want to create a completely new image in English. PS:we can work on the Egypt election diagram later together :) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 16:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

It has been been added to the Graphic Lab BTW. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

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Moto GP

This help request has been moved from the original posting on Moto GP - see [6]. It's best to use {{helpme}} here, on your own user talk page. Cheers, Chzz  ►  21:00, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Re. Template:Persondata

{{helpme}} This template doesn't seem to be working - putting information about Moto GP in the templates, see e.g. Hasan of Basra. Could someone look into this please? AndrewRT(Talk) 20:30, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I have copied this to WP:VPT, but I'll leave the Helpme up here as well. JohnCD (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean, about it not working? You don't seem to have edited Hasan_of_Basra? Please explain what the actual problem is. Thanks, Chzz  ►  21:03, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

It seems to be a problem with Template:Muslim Saints. On its own page (in 'edit'), the data looks right. In test, it's become a Moto GP data template. Try it. Peridon (talk) 21:20, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

If you look at Hasan of Basra, the infobox shows an interest in Moto GP, which I doubt that reverend gentleman actuall had. If you try to edit Template:Muslim saints, you don't see anything about Moto GP - I don't know where it's coming from. It probably doesn't matter, except as a puzzle, because the template the article really needs is presumably Template:Muslim saints (small s). The one with a capital S was created by Imadjafar (talk), who has been working on the article. JohnCD (talk) 21:28, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Small s gives a folded up section about Muslim saints - I think an infobox was wanted. Peridon (talk) 21:33, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed the Hasan article, for the moment, by changing to the small-s template and moving it down to the bottom. It seems quite appropriate. The Large-S template is now not used anywhere and could be zapped, but I suggest we leave it (a) as an interesting technical problem (b) in case Imadjafar (talk), who hasn't edited for a few days, was actually trying to build a new version. As you say, maybe he was trying to build an infobox. I will leave him a note. JohnCD (talk) 21:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for everyone's help with this. Yes - you're absolutely right the problem is with the other template - sorry if that caused confusion. My guess regarding the cause incidentally is Imadjafar copied and pasted it from somewhere else, not realising it still had the Moto GP bit attached! AndrewRT(Talk) 21:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Yep; [7].  Chzz  ►  22:45, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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AndrewRT,

I am a native of Buganda (a Muganda). I and other members of my community (Baganda) are troubled with your decision to upload, into Wikipedia, a map of Buganda that shows the county of Bugerere (Kayunga) differently from other parts of Buganda.

The effort you put in creating your unofficial Buganda map concerns us because it could potentially be used to misinform the world that Bugerere (Kayunga) is a disputed part of Buganda. Indeed, your motivation is unclear to us since Bugerere (non-Baganda like to call it Kayunga) is an integral part of Buganda both under the Uganda national constitution and documented Buganda history.

If this was a genuine mistake and you have not anti-Buganda agenda, we kindly request that you correct the error by replacing the image you uploaded into Wikipedia with an accurate geographical map of Buganda.

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Charles Mukasa — Preceding unsigned comment added by96.240.98.25 (talk) 19:40, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Mr Mukasa, I have no anti-Buganda agenda (or any particular knowledge of the topic), but my map was based on the evidence contained in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buganda#Secession_of_Kayunga. If you have any other evidence that sets out the opposite, could you let me have a copy? Thanks AndrewRT(Talk) 00:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

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It would be great to have the option to gift memberships, or donate on behalf of someone and get some kind of certificate to give as eg a charitable Christmas present. I'm sure a lot of people would like that idea. (You were linked as treasurer on the UK page, hence I'm suggesting this to you)

Best wishes, Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by90.194.145.39 (talk) 23:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Great idea Frank - thanks, I'll pass it on. AndrewRT(Talk) 21:26, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notice - happy for this to be redirected. AndrewRT(Talk) 02:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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Finance Minister

I checked the rules and you can get by with a 2x expansion for a BLP, but it says that the article must have been unsourced first. I think the 2x rule was added to encourage people to polish unsourced BLPs. Five days ago this article had 1100 characters and now has c. 2600 chars. So basically you'd need to double it again (quickly) to get to 1100x5 characters. Sorry if I misled you. Victuallers (talk) 15:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks vict - may struggle to be honest. Ah well, glad I made the changes anyway as he coul be getting quite a few hits in the next few days.AndrewRT(Talk) 22:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Iraq

Long time no see buddy :) I know how interested you are in Iraqi politics, so this site might interested you[[8]]. Info you dont see in the media. Chaldean (talk) 11:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Yea, working on this Template:Iraq_Provincial_Councils. Each governorate has its own official website that I'm planning on getting info from. Also, I want to make maps for Districts of Iraq. I had done 3-4 already as you see on the page. Got more to do.Chaldean (talk) 07:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Andrew, I got the permission email somewhere. I remember it saying they allowed the use, but I'll upload the email on that page just in case. Chaldean (talk) 06:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Here it is [[9]] Chaldean (talk) 06:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

You're right. I wish I knew how to go about the OTRS thing. I got User:Garzo to do it for me for ankawa.com, another Assyrian-related site with great info and pics, but in Arabic. Chaldean (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

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Many thanks for your help with this! AndrewRT(Talk) 23:49, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Not sure where I should ask this question:

Would List of FTSE 100 company directors be considered notable? How does WP:N apply to lists generally?

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I'll put in even though I'm not sure. In my opinion, the directors making up the list would need to be notable in their own right, and one heck of a lot of them wouldn't be. Some directors are there for technical expertise, some for their names, and many (including those) to act as continuity in case of the MD shooting the DMD, and the chief technical director painting himself purple and picketing the House of Commons asking for home rule for Sheppey. Then you have people like Sir Gawain FitzBlogg who is on the board of six or seven companies (but no-one really knows why). Do you list him once, or under each company? And don't forget that there will be a high maintenance on the article -directors come and go as quickly as football managers. Just my opinions there - have a look at the essay WP:Viability of lists.Peridon (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I notice that the essay uses 'viability' rather than 'notability'. This would get round my thoughts on notability for the contents, but leads me to ask how you plan to organise the list. Peridon (talk) 15:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, notability guidelines don't apply to lists. You may want to look at WP:SALAT for the MOS guidelines. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:06, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks both - yes I ended up coming to a similar conclusion when looking through the guidance myself (particularly about each individal has to be notable themselves). Think I'll go about this a different way then! AndrewRT(Talk) 23:40, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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