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Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 43 edit

  • Date: Sunday 12 November 2023
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
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  • Cost: Free

Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference edit

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Universal Code of Conduct.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
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If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on edit

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Future meetups edit

This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Apply for membership of Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People edit

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Agenda and notes edit

Introduction to meet up by organisers edit

Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand – update and discussion (15 minutes) edit

Update from President, WANZ edit

The WANZ Committee has been working on a number of initiatives including setting up the WANZ website, developing a comms plan, an events manual and organising the upcoming Golden Bay meetup that will be happening on 10 and 11 February 2024. These are all underway and progressing well. Our executive advisor, Dianne, has been settling in well and helping us progress these and other projects. We're keen to recruit members to the incorporated society. We've officially got 29 members but we know there are a lot more editors, organisers and contributors in New Zealand that are invested in our organisation. If anyone coming to this meetup hasn't yet joined up I strongly encourage you to do so using this Google form. Membership costs NZ$5 annually. I also wanted to remind everyone that we've got funding available for members wanting to organise meetups, or editathons, content blitzes in home town. If you're interested in finding out more and get help to walk you through the process please contact Dianne on admin@wikimedia.nz and she'll put you in contact with people that can help.

Einebillion (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update from Treasurer, WANZ edit

The General Support Grant we received for 2023/24 has allowances for activities that are not yet committed. At this stage it seems likely that we will need to return some unspent funds to WMF in mid 2024. While this is not a major issue, we currently have an opportunity to fund further activities over the next 6 months, in response to good proposals. We encourage all users to consider Wikimedia-related activities that they might be willing to undertake if (for example), a travel grant was available, or if funding was available to hire a venue and provide catering. We could also possibly consider funding a further Wikipedian-at-large project (in addition to the project that Giantflightlessbirds will undertake next year), but it would need to be completed by June 2024. Marshelec (talk) 22:51, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2023 edit

If you're an event organiser, don't forget to add your event as a program to the Campaign Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard you can find further information here on how to create a new event dashboard and how to link it to the overall campaign dashboard. Alternatively contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page for help.

  • New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreadsheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this during #1Lib1Ref.
  • The West Coast Wikipedian at Large project is running for a third time, until 20 October. See project page, and keep track of progress here. Wrap-up meeting this afternoon, and the preliminary report is seven new articles, 82 edited by 10 editors, who added 25,00 words and 207 references. The articles have has 18,000 views since then.
  • Mohua / Golden Bay Meetup - the event will be attended by the WANZ committee members as they are having a business planning day on the Friday prior ready for July 2024-June 2025.
When: 10-11 February 2024
Where: Collingwood Area School 36 Lewis Street, Collingwood.
Topic: Mohua / Golden Bay.


  • Other suggestions for themes around events include Library Week, Conservation Week, International Volunteers Day, 24hr editathon for Ada Lovelace Day, WikiSource Women's History Month for Wikisource, Winter Olympics, Matariki Event, Library Week. We should think about the focus of the work – is it to onboard folk or to focus on content. Any further update?
Anything to update / discuss?
  • Discussed Dr Thneed’s event at the Dunedin Heritage Festival and the take aways from the failure of folk to turn up despite getting good figures signing up. Suggestion to ask for a small koha in order to get people to commit.
  • Westcoast wikipedian in residence discussed as it is now being completed. Dashboard was mentioned giving metrics including 82 articles created etc. See below in Giantflightlessbirds report back.
  • Golden Bay meetup event discussed - all organised with 9 attendees thus far. Think about how to get to Golden Bay. Golden Bay air is holding a number of seats - Wellington to Takaka return flight. Held until 21st November. Lots of interesting stuff to work on. Local history, New Zealand’s longest ongoing legal case - 180 yrs. Heaps of sources so Wikipedia pages could be easily written.

Round table for participants edit

Opportunity to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated. You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Schwede66 - Just been doing DYK work and meetup preparation and administrative work. And fixing errors on the home page. He's also got a question about putting a collage together of 6 MPs we have photos of. Does someone have a proper photo editing tool to do that, to create a composite to put into Commons? Giantflightlessbirds says he’ll do it.
  • yvanyblog needs help expanding the Lake Hāwea and the Kātiki article. He's been very active this past month with anti-vandalism work. He's created three new articles: Kaikōura High School, Opihi College and Haruru Falls. He's also now interested in Recent changes patrolling and the Counter-vandalism unit which is a Wikipedia project whose aim is to help detect and remove vandalism on Wikipedia.
  1. Content: wrote four pages for women professors (Andrea 't Mannetje, Bronwen Connor, Melinda Webber, Sue Crengle), added award statements for all the RSNZ James Cook Fellows to Wikidata and made a page for the award itself (this was its last year). Added about 50 award statements for Fellows of the New Zealand Institute of Food Science and Technology to Wikidata (there are more fellows, but they need Wikidata items created, which I'm probably not going to do). Also created Wikidata items for the award scheme that will replace this and other fellowships. Added the first of the 2023 Royal Society awards statements to Wikidata (the Auckland event has been held, we will have Wellington and Christchurch in the next week). Also worked on expanding new pages for MPs to reach DYK eligibility. There are still lots of MP pages to review for the mass "Did you know" nomination if anyone wants easy QPQs. I'll add the final vote counts and results to Wikidata once the final final recounts are all in (which they might be now? I've lost track a little of the individual recounts in close electorates). Also made Wikidata items for a bunch of Dunedin streets to link to heritage buildings.
  2. Attended Wikidatacon virtually.
  3. Attended the first meeting of the OpenRefine train-the-trainers course (who is interested in being trained in using OpenRefine for Wiki work - Wikidata, WikiCommons?).
  4. Presented the NZ Thesis Project to the LIANZA Conference in Christchurch which was very exciting (report pending). She's had scholia profile nibbles from Canterbury University librarians as a result of the Thesis presentation at LIANZA. Giantflightlessbirds expressed an interest in talking to Canterbury Librarians too.
  5. 2023 Election: DYK for new MPs has been an interesting experience for DrThneed this year. New MP articles totalled 19. Last year everybody leapt on them and reviewed them quickly. This year there was a debate on whether the articles should exist as a multi-hook. The articles are really easy to review. So if you are not involved in the articles they are great if you want to increase your review total. They are just sitting there just waiting to be done. Discussed this article for New MP come through on the recount. DrThneed needs help for an issue where someone has become an MP based on preliminary results but then lost this. Group agreed that often such people achieve notability even if they loose.
Conferences
As explained briefly at the last Aotearoa NZ meeting I attended the TDWG2023 conference. To see my conference report see this Wikipedia page.
I also forgot to mention that in October I presented to the All staff meeting of the Wikimedia Foundation. See this link for my slides.
I also attended WikidataCon virtually which was a great experience as the virtual platform enabled conversations amongst participants. Presentations can be found here.
Another conference that was held in October was the Entomological Collections Network 2023 conference. I presented on "Connecting Entomological Collectors through the Wikiverse" and the youtube video of my presentation can be found here.
Updates on my current projects
My keynote presentation for the CitSciOz2023 conference is now fully drafted and I'll be sharing my prepared slides with the conference organisers later today. My presentation will be happening on Wednesday 22nd of November. The programme can be seen here.
My collaboration to create a "Hidden Collectors" CURE is progressing, with us currently drafting up the course materials for the Wikidata portion of the CURE. Once we've finished drafting the same we'll be sending them to our wider group and the BEECNET publishers for feedback. These course materials will be licensed under CC BY 4.0 so we'll be able to reshare them once they've been published.
My "women genera" collaboration is progressing well, with our first paper back from review. We're currently incorporating some minor edits suggested by the reviewers and will get our first paper for this project published! I will keep the group up to date for when this event happens. The Women Genera group is now meeting every two weeks to work on the analysis paper.
My collaboration on research expeditions schema creation etc., is also progressing well. We are planning to participate in a Wikidata modelling clinic session on biodiversity topics on Thursday 16:00 UTC at the Wikidata Modelling Days event to be held on the 30 November until the 2nd December. See this link for more information on this event. This research expeditions schema collaboration has encouraged me to think about/propose to undertake a Wikimedian in Residence pilot project to be based at Te Papa to attempt to practically implement this schema with research expedition content and data held at our national museum. The intent would be to create practical documentation to guide other natural history institutions when they undertake this type of engagement with and add this type of data into Wikidata. This document would then be shared with the multi institutional working group currently participating in this efforts. It would also help inform the wider "best practice" documentation we as a group are intending to create as a data standards working group for TDWG - the biodiversity information standards organisation. I've recently met with Giantflightlessbirds to obtain advice on how he undertakes this type of work. I'm intending to request a meeting with Te Papa staff to gage their interest on this proposal. Once I've gained information on this I then intend to write a funding proposal to Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand. I'm hoping to educate and engage Te Papa staff and particularly their Wiki group with this topic and would envision holding at least one if not more than one Wikidata editathon on scientific expeditions in order to train people on how to add this type of data to Wikidata. I'm considering holding an international focused Wikidata editathon overnight in order to get more exposure for this work. However this process of considering how to go about this effort is still in progress so if others have thoughts please reach out!
I have one other anticipated Wikidata adjacent presentation taking place on December 6th in a Bionomia workshop where I will be giving an example of how to disambiguate a scientific collector, how to add them to Wikidata and how to then attribute specimens in Bionomia.
  • Oronsay (talk) has continued working on the NZ Thesis project, while also discovering and merging duplicates via Identifier Constraints Reports in Wikidata and working behind-the-scenes for Women In Red. Also tidying new WP bios (added authority control, categories, incoming and outgoing links, etc.) and adding them to Wikidata. Added new books, fellowships and other prizes to WP award pages and bios. She was also at WikidataCon - needs to watch the recording from overnight sessions. And also doing Wiki “gardening”.
  • Giantflightlessbirds: I've spent the last three weeks in Sydney, and met with staff of the Chau Chak Wing Museum on the Sydney University campus, who may be interested in a Wikimedia collaboration. Also met with Rob Dooley at the Australian Museum (who's attended this meeting) and we talked about possible strategies for the museum, and cought up with Annie and Margaret. I've been wrapping up the West Coast Wikipedian at Large project and preparing the report for Development West Coast, who seem pleased. And have been finishing the project with Healthier Lives, who are very keen to do more about getting their research cited in Wikipedia, including releasing future research reports under an open licence so they can be stored in Commons. Head off tomorrow to GLAM-Wiki Uruguay if I test negative for COVID (was exposed yesterday!)
  • Marshelec (talk) Giantflightless birds has already reported Marshelec went to the Westcoast. They visited the Fox Glacier on Tuesday when it was beautiful weather while the rest of the country had horrid weather. Found it really interesting and added lots of photos. He’s been working on an article about a stream that used to be one of the most polluted waterways in New Zealand. But there has been enormous work done to clean up this stream and in the restoration efforts - see the Waiwhetū Stream article. He gave a short presentation at the volunteer community's AGM to show them how he wrote up their work. A woman who took lots of photos is going to upload her photos into Flickr or Wikimedia commons. So we may get a new editor out of that. Reminder from Einebillion about adding these types of activities into the Annual General report.
  • Paora - He has been doing election work in Wiki. Doing investiture work getting images into Wikicommons. Adding images into Wikidata and then editing Wikidata. Did West Coast work and still has ongoing work that needs completing which he's aiming to do in the near future. And general Wiki gardening - for example keeping an eye on death notices etc. He noted Lynette Skelton has recently died. She's a pioneer of New Zealand rowing and needs an article!
  • MargaretRDonald Has worked on 2 or 3 species articles described by Australians. Working on Wikidata Korea, trying to rectify this silo. She recently presented at a WIki conference in Seoul. Still working on this sort of content. She's worked out a really good technique for finding out items that are utterly empty and has been adding “instance of” statements to make them findable. Google translate inadequacy is highlighted by this work. She’s also preparing an upcoming talk for Australian WikiCon.
  • Beeswaxcandle Working in Wikisource - looked at his editing history and has done a bit more than he thought. He’s applying for a new job. Has recently obtained an award for Best professional practice abstract - congratulations from everyone in the meeting! He completed all the work on a publication by an early bishop in the pre catholic and orthodox church. It is now entirely proof read. He's also been working on Harvard Classics - 51 volumes published in early 1900s. He's also been doing Wikisource gardening and flighting vandalism.
  • David Nind Mostly Wikisource and validating the Royal Society Transactions and Proceedings, particularly the index pages (which are time consuming to validate). Added a Wikidata item for the Opawa Public Library (Q123231466) - it is a volunteer-run library, outside the Christchurch library network (intends to get a photo next time he is in Christchurch). Notes from last meeting are still being are worked on, but he WILL add them!
  • Prosperosity getting ready for the Auckland Museum summer Wiki students arrival. Doing a lot of things like “knitting” editing he can do in front of the TV. He's really proud (as he SHOULD be) of getting all of the rivers in the Auckland organised with images and geolocation information. See this category.
  • Einebillion Has been working on the Te Papa mix’n’match set. Last name and first initial can prove to be difficult to match these people. It highlights how much needs to be done to improve Te Papa's data but this can be done both internally and externally using Wikidata as a cross walk platform.

Review of questions raised during round table edit

  • New Wikidata tip - search result numbers: change from 20 search results to 500 in your preferences, then use CTRL F to search the page! (Wikidata preferences, search and then increase number and save). - Ambrosia10 (talk)
  • This change can be made for Wikipedia and Commons too.--Oronsay (talk) 05:07, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Further discussion edit

  • Current proposal underway to go from a user group up to a chapter. There is an Endorse button for this proposal so please endorse! See this link.
  • MargaretRDonald discussed the “View it” tool.
  • David Nind says the National Library ran a survey on Papers Past (has now closed!). Einebillion gave them some feedback.
  • GovDirectory project. There is an interesting video which provides a nice overview of the this Wikidata initative - see this link See also the Government directory website David Nind has made a few contributions to this, and is planning to work on updating the information for New Zealand government agencies.
  • Discussion about Papers past with a question about being able to edit the text on that website. Einebillion says from user testing she did plus from what the Papers Past folk were saying - it seems the website is heading that way, that is to give folk the ability to transcribe and annotate the text.
  • David Nind mentioned another way to use Wikidata in Wikipedia infoboxes See this youtube video from Wikimedia Australia.
  • Schwede66 asked Einebillion to reach out to Becky Ramseyabout the list of national monuments on the [heritage?] website.
  • Giantflightlessbirds stated GLAMwiki is not online so if folk what him to reach out to other folk during the conference contact him.
  • Einebillion wanted to know if there had been any progress with the Parliamentary librarians and said she'd check in with the Wellington Wiki folk.

Outcomes edit

  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
  • Organisation time: 1 hr doing notes, 1.5 h adding info after meeting

Next meeting and meetup timetables edit

  • 10 December 2023, same time, same place