Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/Meetup 30 September 2023

Wellington Meetup 30 September 2023 edit

  • Date: Saturday 30 September 2023
  • Time: 10:00 am to midday
  • Location: Programmes Room (behind the reception desk), Ground Floor of National Library, corner Molesworth and Aitken Streets, Wellington
  • Bring a laptop if you have one. There are publicly available computers if you don't have a laptop, (but they are located elsewhere in the library).

Venue edit

The group meet in the Programmes Room located on the ground floor of the National Library just behind the main reception area. Group to ensure that the room is left how we found it including table and chair locations.

Future Meetups edit

This is a monthly event occurring every four weeks, but double check the Wikipedia:Wellington Meetup page to confirm.

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The Meeting edit

Attending edit

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Unable to come edit

Agenda and Notes from Meeting edit

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers (if there are any newbies joining us) edit

2. Do we want to join MeetUp or similar platforms edit

Ambrosia10 suggests the group thinks about how we would like to advertise ourselves now we have access to funding to help us do this. The first suggestion she has is to join MeetUp. There were two people who turned up last meeting (unfortunately aiming for the writers group) that came along because of MeetUp advertising. This costs around $10 a month. Is there an alternative that might suit us better? Ideally we want a platform that is used by a lot of people that is a click and forget sort of platform. Do we want to trial it for 6 months? Are there other places we can advertise our group? If we are advertising ourselves she also suggests we plan and lock in our meetings for next year for consistency. Now the group is bigger, more consitent and also can run independent of Ambrosia10 & Einebillion if neither can make it, I think it would be a good idea to make the meeting times and place certain. Also what about signage? Do folk have any ideas about that - something easy to transport and to put outside the room when we meet. Maybe more than one as then the duties of bringing it can be shared. Perhaps a general sign sort of thing so it can also be used for editathons? Anyone have ideas? Group discussion regarding this. Christine and Lucy discussed adding time both in our agenda and also meeting someone individually to find out what is involved to relax people into the meeting. We should edit our agenda meetup for mingling and brief introductions. Facebook LANZ logo. Was a decision made? It's still be discussed. Suggest using generic logo - international one is fine.

Group agreed that Wellington Wiki Group ask for funding for a Meetup account for an annual subscription of $9.99 per month, ask this to be a be the trial and have Dianne to support this administratively. Suggest that others from the Wellington Wiki group be added to the account administratively. Ambrosia10 (Siobhan) puts her hand up for that. If agreed, then Dianne can document how to make this meetup account and how to make regular appointments for this group to pass on to potential other regular regional meetups. Christine will take this to the committee and report back.
Request funding for pull up banners. Will they be indoors? Mainly yes, but have to be carried on the bus. 2x a generic banner. Quick look at quotes $250 heavy, $165 for the light. Warehouse stationary. Suggest requesting up to $750 dollars for advertising banners/resources to purchase roll up banners. Christine to action this with the committee.
Discussed how we might improve newbie engagement with our meetup. Also follow up if folk turn up. Badging system on Wiki and the "thank you" on Wiki. Group suggests discussing this at the next meeting, strategy of how to deal with these and learn how to do this.

2. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on edit

  • Ambrosia10 - has presented at the Victoria University of Wellington - women and gender minorities in science club. Will be presenting at the Wikimedia Foundation end of year function. Has been preparing for TDWG.
  • Avocadobabygirl - Loaded Te Papa agents to Mix n Match, and lots of new matches have been made! Those are being roundtripped back, plus we're thinking about other properties we can steal. Released a stack of images of Te Papa's interior/exterior, plus one of our Kaihautū. Project to load images of arachnid type specimens is coming along. Suggests group makes use of the images.
  • Stitchbird2 - I have helped Avocadobabygirl write and submit our report to WANZ on Wikimania 2023. I haven’t been editing much the past month (I’m actually worried I might lose my Wikipedia Library access…) but I did get my iNat observations from the Auckland Islands in Jan 2023, comprising 3,000 photos of over 250 species in 977 observations (all CC BY). This is what I’d like to do: find out if any of the species need photos in Commons, and if not, bulk upload them. Although I’ve done the iNaturalist to Commons tool for individual species, I haven’t done this for large datastets and am keen to learn and implement this. Does anyone know if there’s a process/pipeline? If so, there’s another great set of iNat observations by ecoman, a New Zealand ecologist, who has recently licensed over 14,000 observations of 2,500 species as CC BY (including over 600 recent observations from the Cook Islands of nearly 300 species, especially insects).
  • Wainuiomartian - has expanded an existing Oriential Bay article - stories of naked men at Te Aro baths needing to wear black drawers and giant octopuses attacking bathers. Also added a section on marine life to Wellington Harbour article.
  • Quilt Phase - image work. Worked out how to add no free files to infoboxs. Improving quality of images in infoboxs. Trying to edit something on from his browser on his phone because he turned on private browsing. Whole wiki project around it. When apple introduced private browsing ensuring websites can't track you but it uses an IP that has been blocked by Wikimedia. So he couldn't edit. Had to turn off the website tracking so he's telling his phone to allow website tracking but not tracking tracking. Now get prompts to log into google account. Workaround. IP blocked b/c of privacy on phone. Wikipedia app not easy to use to edit. Also thinking he's putting instagram followers as he's putting building images up every day. Discussed Christchurch competition, improve photogarphy on heritage nz website but not life in general.
  • Gertrude206 published article about the Mangarakau Wetland but got in a bit of a muddle about use of macrons so they probably should be used and the page moved. Also been discussing citing archives. She created and has conflict of interest with an article and another editor wants to use as a reference a letter in an archive but archive doesn't say anything about contents of letter. As secondary sources are much preferred to a primary source she's not sure what to do. One way to do it, put in archive and secondary source and a footnote explaining why both sources are being cited. How to do a note was asked. See H:NOTES
  • Noracrentiss - Mix'n'match on Turnbull Names 2, doing a little bit of work on Okains Bay museum - Banks Peninsula. How you can put the draft article somewhere so other folk can work on it too. She wants to know how to do this? Flag this for discussion. Help page for draft, create name for draft, copy and paste from Sandbox to draft.

3. Progress on Action Points and future events edit

Event planning for this and all of next year edit

  • Ambrosia10 proposes a 15min discussion around planning engagement events for the next few months and then into next year. At the Aotearoa New Zealand meetup it was emphasised that applications from the community for funding support for meetups or Wiki-related campaigns were encouraged. I'd like us as a group to have a discussion about possible events until the end of the year and to start planning a range of proposed editathons and events next year - hopefully specific events with a focus on educating the public about editing Wikipedia, to encourage new editors, or events to improve content. Any ideas welcome. Whatever the group is enthusiastic about would make a great editathon!
Editathon or WikiBlitz? Photography tour etc

WikidataCon 2023 edit

WikidataCon 2023 is open for registration. Virtual tickets are free. See this link to register.

Other events/projects edit

  • New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreadsheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this during #1Lib1Ref. There is also a video on how to add thesis to people's pages. This work is ongoing and could use more editors to help out.
Project Contacts: DrThneed, Giantflightlessbirds and Ambrosia10
  • Parliamentary Library The library has had it's Wikipedia guidance for staff approved. They are in the process of developing their project. Possible workshop and training might eventuate. Pakoire

Dashboard information edit

Don't forget to add your program to the Campaign Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page.
Ambrosia10 has created a new campaign dashboard for any New Zealand organised events. See this link for the dashboard and you can find further information here on how to create a new event dashboard and how to link it to the overall campaign dashboard.

4. Good Article / Featured Article Work edit

  • Decision to be made about the suggestions for a Wellington related article to get to Good or Featured Article status. Suggestions include St. James Theatre, Wellington? Perhaps top Wellington tourist attractions? Recognise some have a conflict of interest but Te Papa is the top attraction and editors with a conflict could make suggestions in the talk page. The second most notable attraction according to trip advisor is Zealandia which obviously has also played a massive role in improving Wellington's biodiversity. Otari-Wilton's Bush is another tourist attraction that should be relatively easy to get to at least good status as a book, Ōtari: Two hundred years of Ōtari–Wilton’s Bush, has recently been published and is available at libraries. This might also feed into the New Zealand history curriculum resources if we ensure the history section is expanded. We could also emphasis the work that goes on in the garden that feeds into scholarly research about New Zealand endemic plants.

5. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of edit

Requests for Edits edit

  • Ambrosia10 has had a request from Naomi Arnold for the Quota Management System article to be improved. She's sent us this resource that may be of interest if someone wants to edit that article. Marshelec said last meeting he would work on it but if others are interested please chip in!

6. Demonstration of a tool edit

Outcomes edit

Next meeting and Meetup timetables edit

  • 28 October 2023, same time, same place