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Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 9 edit

  • Date: Sunday 28 February 2021
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference edit

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on edit

The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups edit

This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People edit

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Agenda and Notes edit

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers

Welcome to new group member as Prosperosity joined the group for the first time. Wikipedian editor from Hamilton and currently with Auckland Museum as their Wikipedian in Residence. Group did a round table to introduce themselves.

  • Einebillion been editing Wikipedia since 2011 but currently finding Wikidata more interesting. Currently working on NZ pioneer land surveyors and, for some years a project on New Zealand historic photographers.
  • David Nind Works mostly in Wikidata
  • Ambrosia10 Works in Wikidata, Wikipedia, and Wikimedia Commons. Currently working in Wikidata for New Zealand cemeteries with two other Wiki-editors and adding location coordinates. This week have contributed to Wikipedia Weekly series - a youtube video series - presented on one with the biodiversity focus.
  • DrThneed worked with Wikipedia but mostly now working in Wikidata
  • Oronsay is Australian and works in Wikipedia, Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons
  • MargaretRDonald is Australian and works with biota wikidata, citations, and references. Has recently been working with Oronsay on entering Australian fungi and lichen database items into Wikidata

2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)

Comms Channels
User Group Page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_User_Group_of_Aotearoa_New_Zealand
Twitter account https://twitter.com/wikiprojectnz - please message @wikiprojectnz with what you're working on so they can message / retweet.
Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/833075710196955
Mailing list for newsletter please contact Giantflightlessbirds
Wiki-Con Weekends in 2021 and Events
Anything to update / discuss?
  • Einebillion (talk) attended the East, Southeast Asia and the Pacific Regional Hub Virtual General meeting #6 minutes. There are a number of opportunities for the User Group in New Zealand to contribute including providing our views. Particularly wanted to point out the Wikimedia Clinics. Next meeting is the 13 March.
  • Performing Arts Aotearoa Wikimedia Foundation grant application A warm thank you to everybody from this group who has helped me create the grant application for the Performing Arts Aotearoa Wikimedia Foundation grant application. It is in submission phase now with a cut off 5 March for editing. Pakoire (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Performing_Arts_Aotearoa_-_Wiki_Project DrThneed noted that her contribution to this work has combined nicely with the Wikipedia partnerships course that is running concurrently. Using this project as an example for the course work.[reply]
  • October 2021 WikiDataCon Discussion on whether the group is interested in contributing to the October 2021 Wikidata Conference event. A number of people considered it an excellent way to promote the Aotearoa New Zealand user group, the smallness of the community and how much we punch above our weight. Raised this as something that should be discussed at the WestCoast WikiCon. We could decide something to work on and then do the work and then present on the project to demonstrate how we work as a group. Ambrosia10 encouraged Prosperosity to think about contributing on the Auckland Museum work as there is a strong GLAM / Wikidata community world wide that would be interested. See dashboard for Auckland Museum Project https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Auckland_War_Memorial_Museum/Wikimedian_in_Residence_at_Auckland_Museum_2021/home
  • Te Papa Lotteries Grant Application Support Letter Einebillion recused herself from the discussion due to conflict of interest. Ambrosia10 was contacted by a Te Papa staff member requesting liaison with the Aotearoa New Zealand User Group members to consider supporting a Lotteries Grant bid for funds to digitise and make openly reusable (where rights permit) a large photographic collection. Letter was drafted and edited and supported by Ambrosia10, MurialMary, Giantflightlessbirds, and Noracrentiss. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TBYsE4ds7CNyKz9VpBHDolWqDzeMqwfdc1dEheO7KUo/edit?usp=sharing


3. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of'


4. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated - You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Add what you've been working on since the last meetup.
  • I've been adding NZ cemeteries to Wikidata see this tweet for before and after images. I've also been on youtube co-presenting Wikipedia Weekly: Biodiversity edition. Ambrosia10 (talk)
  • More bios for NZ women academics: 37 done since 24 Dec, 9 to go of professorial appointments up to and incl. 2020. Prep for IWD editathon at USYD, will be face-to-face, v. exciting! Oronsay (talk) 20:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DrThneed working with Pakoire on the aforementioned Aotearoa New Zealand performing arts project. There is also a large project that has come to her notice via a tweet https://twitter.com/ViaeRegiae It is a public history project in the UK on King's highways and trying to annotate and reference different sources of early modern english sources (maps, travel diaries etc) to create a list of early modern english place names with an additional layer of tagging into Wikidata so can do associations between location names through time can be made. A wikidata plugin for the project has been developed. It’s at least a 5 year project and kicking off next week. It raises a whole stack of questions e.g how will structured data in Wikimedia Commons cope with an image of a map with 1000 tags? There is also a separate wikidata project around manors - not the buildings but the manorial courts. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Early_Modern_England_and_Wales There is lots to learn when learning how to do this type of project. DrThneed has also been adding to Wikidata all qualifications and honours for all 705 Royal Society fellows of NZ.

Prosperosity has been updating History sections for New Zealand regional pages including Auckland, Waikato, Taranaki. Has also been adding in references to biodiversity articles. Progressing well as over 600 references added. Mostly Auckland Museum content and sometimes other content and Treaty Waitangi settlement papers have also made interesting reading and referencing. There’s a lot of focus on Biodiversity Heritage Library sources in Auckland Museum at the moment and Auckland Museum are also looking at the image archives. A possible upcoming project could potentially expand History section in Wikipedia pages for New Zealand towns and suburbs of the wider Auckland region.

Ambrosia10 Uploaded all the wikidata information from Weta Journal of the New Zealand Entomological Society. Gave a radio interview explaining about Wikipedia. Started putting into Wikidata the metadata of NZ Department of Conservation grey literature from their website using Zotero, then putting Zotero entry into quick statement formats for a quality wikidata entry for this literature.

Oronsay As well as adding to Wikidata New Zealand women academics, has also been writing about the women who are officers of Australia. Has recently written three articles about sailing clubs. Has also been completing all the normal tasks of linking new articles to wikidata items or creating new wikidata articles, merging duplicates, assessments/ratings on talk pages, trying not to tag with “citation needed” but instead trying to do something about it right then and there.

David Nind Hasn’t done a lot in the last month. Added the metadata related to the book scanned by Giantflightlessbirds to the Internet Archive and Open Library to create new identifiers. Nothing further on the New Zealand museums id but at 22% if the spreadsheet completed so still has lots to do. This isn’t in Mix n Match. Noted that Jonathanischoice 's SoundsNZ contributor ID has been set up in Wikidata.

MargaretRDonald Been doing a lot of work in Wikidata on Australian fungi ids.

Einebillion Still working on New Zealand Pioneer Land Surveyors list. Despite a lot of disambiguation at Open Refine level prior to upload, has now realised that there are still a few merges that need happen. There’s extra disambiguation thats occurring due to adding in family associations where known. Group discussed genealogical data and the Peerage IDs. This is difficult to disambiguate due to the lack of place of birth and death but valuable once the disambiguation occurs and relationships are identified.


5. Review of questions raised during round table

  • List questions raised during the meetup and the response - none.

6. Demonstration of another tool

  • Ambrosia10 demonstrated the Wikidata tool UseAsRef for adding references. See this for a "how to" and add this text - importScript( 'User:Bargioni/UseAsRef.js' ); - to your common.js. For more info see this. - Ambrosia10 (talk)

Tool is a Wikidata tool that allows copying of an external ID as a reference against data elements. General discussion on how much referencing is ideal. Depends on topic. New people not in Wikipedia - make sure you have all the references to sources you can find. Where facts are not agreed and where different databases hold different information - enter both facts and reference them well so that when there is a definitive answer is found it can be recorded.

Question raised on how to deal with a change of ISSN number and publisher when a journal title stays the same. Group agreed that there should remain one wikidata item to reflect the journal but the changes should be noted using the qualifier for start and end time.

Group also reminded that Cite Q is useful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_Q

7. Further discussion

Talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiCon_Aotearoa/West_Coast_2021

  • New Zealand Cemeteries into Wikidata Discussion on using Open Street Map and shape file as well as coordinates. Can associate Wikidata item number for the space with Open Street Map by editing Open Street Map map , adding a property field to join the QID to Open Street Map. You can draw the area on Open Street Map and then add to Open Street Map reference identifier to the WIkidata item for the space see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Park,_Western_Australia as an example
  • 1Lib1Ref went well. Took issues down from 25% to 24%. But percentage figures are back up now additional pages have been added since then. The resource to show you what to work on and listing of all the errors can be found here. https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/index.html

Outcomes edit

  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
  • ..

Next meeting and Meetup timetables edit

  • 28 March 2021, same time, same place


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