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Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 25 edit

  • Date: Sunday 26 June 2022
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free


Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference edit

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on edit

The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups edit

This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People edit

Attending edit

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  • David Nind (I will try to attend, will possibly be running a little late if I do)

Agenda and notes edit

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers

2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)

Comms Channels
Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand Inc (WANZ) update
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2022
Don't forget to add your program to the Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page.
  • New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreasheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this. Project Contacts: DrThneed, Giantflightlessbirds and Ambrosia10
  • 2022 June 5-10 SPNHC 2022 Upcoming conference with wiki outreach representation from Ambrosia10. Report back to the community on the conference. As usual there was more engagement and discussion with Wikidata, especially as a hub for linking various institutions identifiers as well as a public repository for people and publication data. From my anacdotal experiencethere is a community groundswell of increased knowledge about Wikidata and how it can be used to assist institutions. Particularly its use in Bionomia tracker as well as an ability to add wikidata items to Collection Management Systems to assist with disambiguating people. There were a few presentations that mentioned wikidata specifically and there was a workshop aimed at showing attendees Bionomia Tracker - a website that uses Wikidata to disambiguate collectors. I attended the workshop in order to assist attendees with their beginning steps in adding data to Wikidata. As for my virtual experience, I was really pleased about the engagement I managed to have over twitter but the platform and the administrators of the sessions struggled with engagement via the platform as a result of it being a joint virtual/in person event. I also admit struggling with the fact I had to attend this conference nocturally. It threw my sleep out for days afterwards and also there were sessions that clashed with family commitments. On the upside, unlike a lot of the physical attendees I didn't get COVID. Also my coauthored poster for the conference was very well received and got a lot of engagement both on twitter and at the conference. I may well decide to present at next years conference on a piece of Biodiversity Wiki work in order to get more engagement.
 
Fake Muse poster, co-authored by Ambrosia10.
  • Celtic Knot Conference 1 - 2 July - hybrid event - nocturnal NZ hours.
  • West Coast Reptiles Wikiblitz, 31 July 2022 hybrid event to be organised by Giantflightlessbirds.
  • 2022 August 11-14 Wikimania Discussion needed about NZ contribution. Funding applications open for affiliates and individuals. Apply by 3 June.
  • 2022 October Ada Lovelace Editathon, Wellington Pakoire will work with AtticEdit organising. Tentatively scheduled for weekend of 14/15 October. Still to confirm date and times.
  • 2022 November 16-18 Worlds of Wikimedia Conference, Sydney Diversity, Diaspora and Digitality
  • 2022 November 18-20 ESEAP Conference, Sydney Regional conference for the East, Southeast Asia, and Pacific.
  • 2023 February WikiCon Wellington Wellington meetup discussing where and when we could deliver this WikiCon. Ambrosia10 has had Tim Park come back about the Otari Wilton rooms. The Wifi test he did is relatively slow but an IT expert has said it should be ok for folk editing wikipedia so long as there is no video content being used.
  • Other suggestions for themes around events include Library Week, Conservation Week, International Volunteers Day, 24hr editathon for Ada Lovelace Day, WikiSource Women's History Month for Wikisource, Winter Olympics, Matariki Event, Library Week. We should think about the focus of the work - is it to onboard folk or to focus on content. Any further update?
Anything to update / discuss?

3. Wiki News – add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of

4. DrThneed demonstrating what wikidata description updates are occurring as a result of the New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project. (15 minutes) Google slides for presentation. Responses from audience very positive and comments also encouraged the adding of birth and death dates.

5. Problem users – Schwede66 would like to discuss a couple of problem users (who cause very different issues). Before we get into this, we should discuss whether it is appropriate to discuss other editors who aren't present. We should then decide whether we minute the discussion. And then we can get into it. The purpose of the discussion is to explore whether a wider pool of editors should get involved to address the problems.

Editors attending this meeting agreed to discuss these issues in general rather than name specific editors and to attempt to address these issues via communication as well as by statements agreed to by the attendees. The attendees agreed to publicly documentation the decisions reached by the group.
Issue 1: Schwede66 explained that there are editors (sometimes experienced, at other times newbies) who edit the lead of an article rather than place the detailed content they are adding to the body of the article. Motivations for this editing can vary. Unfortunately this behaviour can devolve into disruptive editing when it becomes a habit of an editor or if the editor is unaware of the purpose of the lead. It can result in edit warring with reverting and re-reverting of content taking place. The group discussing this issue and expressed a desire to encourage editors making these types of edits to continue to productively edit but also wanted to ensure that these editors were educated in the appropriate use of the lead of an article. This would hopefully reduce the time spent by other editors ensuring the lead of an article is appropriate and falls within the editing guidelines and policies of English Wikipedia. As such, it was agreed that the best strategy would be to leave a gentle note on the appropriate editor's talk page explaining the issue. Giantflightlessbirds has previously drafted such notes and offered to add some general text to guide other editors wanting to undertake this: "Hi there, I've removed your section on SUBJECT from the start of the ARTICLE article because the lead is supposed to be a summary of the main body of the article; that information should really go into the SECTION section, and then be briefly summarised in the lead." It was also suggested that the editor be pointed to the WikiProject Lead Improvement Team if this appeared to be an area of interest to the editor. Agreed for Schwede to draft a generic statement here that others can contribute to, and for him to them make it specific and post it on the relevant editor's talk page.
Issue 2 : Schwede66 explained that there were often debates when New Zealand articles attempted to have a title with a dual name in English and Māori. It was Schwede66's impression that this was a time suck for some New Zealand editors working in this area. The attendees discussed this issue and agreed that the common name should be the title of the article, that this could result in a dual name becoming the appropriate title of the article where it could be shown that this is the common name of the entity, but that even if this was not the case, the dual name should be given in the lead of the article. The naming conventions policy for New Zealand language articles should be followed. Giantflightlessbirds volunteered to look at the naming conventions to check whether treatment of the dual name in the lead section is appropriate.

6. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated – You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Oronsay - working with MargaretRDonald on WikiLovesEarth - so much work to do with categories and depicts. Any editors here are welcome to pop in and prejudge using the prejudging tool. Also been checking items for Australian Fauna Directory adding info. Saw Peter0027 contributing to updating NZ ambassadors and high commissioner so started doing this as well for Australia. Also wiki gardening.
  • Schwede66 - Been doing west coast project stuff. Assisting Giantflightlessbirds with Wikidata, Wikipedia, WikiCommons & Flickr-mining etc.
  • Beeswaxcandle - Wikisource - Dictionary of music and musicians work has slowed to a stroll. Each page of index is taking 1.5 hrs to do. 180 in TOTAL!!! 13th anniversary of starting project in July so wants to finish by then. Also contributing to Libravox - reading a lot of articles.
  • Noracrentiss - Been doing “engine room” of Wikimedia Aotearoa work of NZ admin/financial work. However has also been working with the mix’n’match tool now and again. Trying to learn Wikisource - still a novice.
  • Jim - tapering off Wikisource - 20 proof reading pages a day. Working on mainly American Association of Advancement Science content and disambiguating scientists.
  • MargaretRDonald - Been absent from WikiLovesEarth recently but has been contributing to this, also working on people and publications on Australian Faunal Directory. Had a terrible time with a genus of beetles - synonymised with other genera according to Australian taxonomists but Europeans don't agree and no one puts molecular data into databases. Can’t tidy up wikidata b/c taxonomists don’t agree.
  • Gertrude206 - Not a lot recently, house keeping biographies after the Queen's Birthday honours list. Working on Matu Somes Island article. She's been helping a new editor who is writing an article on the Summer City festival. They visited the Wellington City Archives - helping to look through archives. 2 hours or so there which turned into a memory lane trip. Attempting to help new editor find better sources for article b/c needs more references.
  • DrThneed - Working on Thesis project. Uploaded 6300 all attached to authors and after 1st July all the rest will be uploaded with name strings. Also focusing on linking in thesis advisors so has been added Advisors to Wikidata. Also discovered a Tool help with project completeness - the Wikidata project dashboard shows the links to see the completeness of items. Done a histropedia timeline. Wants to add the degrees so we can add link to people to their degree. Thinking about whether mix’n’match would be a good tool. It was suggested she talk to User99of9 about mix’n’match. Wikimania presentation is not yet sorted. Giantflightlessbirds got a yes for his lightning talk. So she will chase.
  • Peter0027- Working on the ambassadors and high commissioners from NZ after noticing some are up to 15 years out of date. Has been working on improving Wikipedia and updating the New Zealand ambassadors and high commissioners.
  • Ambrosia10 - The big news for me this month is that my coauthored poster involving my Women Genera Wikidata work has been shown at the SPNHC2022 conference and that the Centre for Biodiversity Genomics has gone CC BY! See this press release. This institution was CC BY NC SA and as a result I moaned on twitter. They then responded. And now they've actually gone and done it!. I am beyond thrilled! I've also attended SPNHC2022 (see above), have started generating content for a workshop I'm giving US based university undergraduate educators happening next month, I've been working solidly on two datasets in Mix'n'match - the Harvard index of botanists and the BHL creator id - and have of course continued to work on moth articles. I've also been assisting with the Critter of the Week project, tutoring a now newish editor and generally been adding content an links where and when I see them. - Ambrosia10 (talk)
  • David Nind - Working on instructions for how to upload documents into the Internet Archive, single publication is relatively simple but wants to cover the upload of bulk publications. How to add 100 one by one is a bit painful. Document that and share that. Also working on the soon to be decommissioned BUGZ website - test crawls and fine tuning how to extract all data, possibly to create a copy of the website, concentrating on getting a clean crawl and all data available.
  • Giantflightlessbirds – The Critter of the Week project has been given a shot in the arm and now has 8 people signed up, and mailing list with a weekly alert for which Critter is featuring on the RNZ show each Friday. I've run a training session for two newcomers to Wikipedia and have others interested. The West Coast Wikipedian at Large project has been going for a week, focussed at the moment on the Punakaiki area. We produce a weekly summary of what's been going on and welcome new editors to join the 10 signed up. I've (unannounced yet) received a grant form the Mātātuhi Foundation to continue digitising books in conjunction with the Grey District Library, working one morning a week on the West Coast task Force.
  • Marshelec - contributing to Critter of the week articles Pennantia baylisiana, Xanthoparmelia semiviridis, Chaetocoelopa littoralis, and Arctesthes avatar. The work on the Avatar moth article has led on to minor changes and updates to a range of related articles associated with the Denniston Plateau and mining on the plateau (and in the process, contributing to the West Coast WPALproject}. Also working on a project selected by the Wellington Wikpedians to enhance the article about Matiu / Somes Island. Has chosen to start with the lighthouse, and has a draft in work Draft:Matiu / Somes Island Lighthouse.
  • Einebillion - mostly working on action points for Wikimedia Te Tiriti training and also her meeting with Auckland Museum getting an update on their work given their recent rejection of their grant application. AM are heavy committed to Wikipedia and are going to continue to work on Wikicommons work as well as Auckland suburb articles to assist with the new New Zealand history curriculum. However this will be slower basis as a result of no funding. Still attached to Wikimedia Aotearoa New ZEaland and are supporting the work for Auckland Meetup. Marty is intending to document for us what good suburb article looks like so we’ve got an idea about how to get to a good articles NZ wide for history curriculum. Jaqueline the Wikimedia Foundation ESAP contact also attended the meeting to observe watch how we work together.

7. Review of questions raised during round table

  • MargaretRDonald wants to discuss with Ambrosia10 about Bionomia Tracker. Agreed to meet at a later date for this.
  • Giantflightlessbirds changed date of WikiBlitz for NZ Reptiles.


8. Further discussion

Outcomes edit

  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.

Next meeting and Meetup timetables edit

  • 24 July 2022, same time, same place


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