Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online/23


Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 23 edit

  • Date: Sunday 1 May 2022
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free


Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference edit

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on edit

The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups edit

This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People edit

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Agenda and Notes edit

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers

2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)

Comms Channels
Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand Inc (WANZ) update
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2022
  • WikiCon Wellington Postponed until WANZ set up but will be retained on agenda going forward as a reminder. In funding bid as tentatively rescheduled for November 2022.
  • 2022 15 May - 5 June One Lib One Ref campaign Australia Wikimedia Foundation and the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand are working on the One Lib One Ref campaign in June. Event page Event contact: Ambrosia10 - Would ask that folk start tweeting out about the event in the run up to it. Ambrosia10 is planning to start comms in the week prior. GiantFlightlessBird may also be doing similar. The link we are using is this one which gives links to each of the drop in sessions. Attendees do have to register to drop in.
  • 2022 June 5-10 SPNHC 2022 Upcoming conference with wiki outreach representation from Ambrosia10.
  • Other suggestions for themes around events include Library Week, Conservation Week, International Volunteers Day, 24hr editathon for Ada Lovelace Day, WikiSource Women's History Month for Wikisource, Winter Olympics, Matariki Event, Library Week. We should think about the focus of the work - is it to onboard folk or to focus on content. Any further update? - Ambrosia10 has recently had a Twitter DM conversation with the New Zealand Wetland Trust about a possible editathon on or around World Wetlands Day Thursday 2 February 2023. Would other folk be keen if I think about organising an editathon around then. Work could include creating/improving NZ wetland articles about the wetlands, adding info to nearest city/location pages, improving Wikidata items on wetlands.
Anything to update / discuss?

3. Wiki News – add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of

  • Diff blog posts - like the GLAM Wiki newsletter but has better reach generally. I'm not suggesting we stop reporting via the GLAM newsletter, more that we document our events and workflows through Diff. I'm sure some duplication between the two would be forgiven. I recognise that we're all busy but it might be worth making an effort to prioritise documentation of our projects, events and workflows here. It gets wide readership throughout the Wikiverse and can feed back into our reporting metrics. I know that organising events take time and that reporting back sometimes feels like extra work for no return but I think we as a group underestimate the effect we can have on the movement if we undertake a bit more engagement with the rest of the Wiki world. I'm suggesting that we factor in reporting back time on events and projects as part of our standard workflow. Diff uses the wordpress platform and is relatively easy to use. Here is a recent example of a Diff blog post I've had published. - Ambrosia10 (talk)
  • This month in GLAM April report to be completed by 7th of May. Add any GLAM reports/feedback for the month of April to this report.
  • Jacqueline Chen (Wikimedia Foundation) emailed the User Group with the following request to recruit additional members for the ESEAP Region Funds Committee:

We are looking to recruit additional members to the ESEAP funds committee and welcome referrals from your community. Specifically, we are looking for (new or experienced) contributors interested in developing a regional interest of the Wikimedia movement and who understand, value and represent diversity, including cultural, linguistic, and gender differences. We welcome experiences in thematic areas such as culture and heritage, gender, advocacy or climate change in the region. We will be reviewing applications on a rolling basis and encourage early submissions from interested candidates before 31 May 2022. There is some compensation offered: a stipend of 100USD for every two-month period to members of the Regional Grants Committee. If interested, contact Jacqueline or read more here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Regions/ESEAP MurielMary (talk) 11:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

4. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated – You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Marshelec has been working on the article for Farewell Spit which also has a famous lighthouse. Knows there is an editor with an interest in New Zealand lighthouses and has been trying to get in touch with that person. Also documenting the Three Waters reforms and linking to previous New Zealand water articles. Also doing preparatory work on the venue for User Group Committee strategy weekend.
  • Giantflightlessbirds has been on leave for most of April however there has been a Greymouth librarian doing scanning of public domain books ready for upload to Wikicommons. Discussing with Tohatoha and LIANZA copyright group submitting a grant proposal to the National Library for a regular public domain day celebration. Hs been taking photographs while on leave and working on adding them into wikidata items and wikipedia articles. Organising a follow up of the Barrytown editathon to check up on the work completed and build on what was previously accomplished. That’s happening on the weekend of 21 of May. Queen's birthday will be organising a New Zealand reptiles wiki blitz. Let me know if you’re interested. Finishes at Westland District Library on June 17th. June 20th 10 week contract as Westland Wikipedian: The Sequel for 10 weeks. If you’re interested to being part of the team add yourself here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/WestCoastWPAL Topics, North Westland, South Westland, Lake Brunner
  • LCMortensen Papers Past has uploaded the Christchurch Press newspaper scans up to 1971. Has been looking for sources for New Zealand history and Christchurch articles and adding to the history of Christchurch schools, malls and pages on Years of New Zealand history.
  • Oronsay Chasing around after MargaretRDonald who has been uploading the Australian faunal directory. She’s now down to the last 16,000 entries. Oronsay adds the genus and a few more facts. Also doing behind the scenes admin, planning and organising Women in Red activities in Australia.
  • Stitchbird2 New editor. Curator of Botany at Te Papa for 16 years. Specialises in taxa - forget me nots, plantains, foxgloves, hebes. Has attended a couple of workshops with Giantflightlessbirds over a year ago and recently started editing with agreement from manager. Motivation is that iNaturalsit is only showing 4 of 50 species for forget me nots. Ambrosia10 and Einebillion have been mentoring. Discussed an editing issue where creating a new page didn’t seem to be possible. Group discussed that Stitchbird2 had done enough edits to qualify for the right to create a new page. Ambrosia10 will to do a one on one off line.
  • Ambrosia10 continues to work on her two co-authored scholarly papers relating to wikidata, one of which will be submitted for publication in the coming hours. She's been working on her scientific collector workflow disambiguating collectors, adding them to Wikidata and the attributing specimens via the Bionomia.net website. She has recently achieved 4 million attributions and has had interest from a group of citizen scientists in India to teach them this workflow. Currently waiting for the organiser to get back to her. She's also had interest from iDigBio folk asking her to collaborate in running a workshop for the BIOME conference combining the workflow she uses for collectors with education on specimen transcription. She will be assisting to create a workshop that can help education professionals of undergraduates who are members of the Biology and Mathematics Educators (BIOME) Institute. She's also been doing work in Wikidata on the Harvard Index of Botanists and a lot of creation new of NZ endemic moth stubs in English Wikipedia.
  • Beeswaxcandle Focussed on Wikisource and in particular the Grove dictionary of music and musicians. Now up to Robert White. Less than a 100 pages to go, then it’s the index, and then lists of contributions by authors. Wanting to transclude back into the author pages. Also need to fix the bits of Music that haven’t been done.
  • DrThneed Has been corresponding with the University of Otago to get a release document in place to use a photograph of a person on Wikipedia. Very tedious when dealing with an non-open organisation. Have recently emailed the Royal Society for the images associated with the latest intake of fellows. The “Importing all New Zealand Thesis held in University libraries into Wikidata” project is still advancing. Currently waiting for each of the Libraries to come back about where duplicates exist. Also dealing with 66,000 authors and the challenge of how to reconcile them from strings to things in Wikidata. Running a trial of the pre-1962 authors in Open Refine and have reconciled them using Wikidata qid. Of interest is the Shadows of the Past website(?) that lists graduates of NZ university. There are also Fellows of the Royal Society lists that are useful and a Wikidata query of all people educated or employed at a New Zealand University. There is a mathematical genealogy people matching people to dissertation so I’m contacting them to see if their workflow can help. However they seem to prefer using an API verses Open Refine.
  • Prosperosity has recently moved to Glen Eden, Auckland so working on West Auckland pages. Also recently had the first Auckland Meetup in a long time. It was online. Planning an in-person meetup sometime soon. Also going a bit Moss crazy. The Auckland Museum published their scans of a book of mosses and made wikidata items. A lot are mislabelled. Ambrosia10 offered a tutorial in synonyms which could help the workflow of Prosperosity.
  • Jonathanischoice had a month off because brother is over from the UK. Haven’t been doing much except a little bit on the Wikipedia trombone articles. Has been using CiteQ to do references and saw his edits had been reverted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrabass_trombone Questioned whether he should be using CiteQ. Group gave general acclaim to CiteQ and noted it was accepted as Wikipedia practice. Group consensus is that CiteQ is a bit glitchy but it’s a work in progress and considered best practice going forward. We need to use it to support its development as a template.
What is CiteQ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_Q
Template {{CiteQ}}
  • David Nind is slowly getting back into things. Working through photographs taken over the last while and uploading these to Wikicommons. Also getting back into Wikisource transcription.
  • Paora has been doing a lot of “gardening” creating stubs and pages for a number of New Zealanders who have recently died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Porter and Leslie Young, economist. Has been having a discussion with another editor about changes to the page List of New Zealand International Netball Players. It's been edited from a standard list to a series of different tables. Wanted a sense check from the group. There was some discussion as to whether this could be considered lobbying but the group decided that this was a sense check only to determine whether to take it further. Group agreed that it was less useful as a list in the most recent version and the original standard list was better. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_New_Zealand_international_netball_players&oldid=1075673087 Paora to decide whether to disengage from the dispute.
  • Einebillion has been organising by finishing the application for general funding from Wikimedia Foundation (see User Group page), helping set up the strategy day for the committee, going to Wikimedia Foundation zoom calls, and facilitation and page creation for both the Online Aoteaora meetup and Wellington meetups. Editing work did a bit of work on the mix’n’match New York Public Library aggregation of historic photographers dataset before realising NYPL had taken it offline. Switched to working on Wikidata items for significant soldiers of the British Army who were participants in the New Zealand Wars.

5. Review of questions raised during round table

  • Group discussed lack of understanding on how to cite Wikisource content. Beeswaxcandle committed to demonstrating this on 26 June for 30 minutes.

6. Further discussion

  • Giantflightlessbirds noted that there wasn't much in Wikipedia about insect hotels. There is limited research on whether they work in New Zealand. Nor is there much on the New Zealand variant of wētā hotels. Will likely see this as a bit of editing to do. Is also going to work on New Zealand native bee pages.
  • David Nind for those that use user scripts on Wikipedia, there's a newsletter that might be of interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Scripts%2B%2B
  • Giantflightlessbirds discussed more about the work that's happening around the New Zealand Public Domain day celebrations. This isn't celebrated by any institution in New Zealand. Lack of celebration was noted as a result of the select committee verbal submisisons against the copyright duration extension associated with the UK free trade agreement. It's clear Parliamentary representatives do not value nor understand the public domain and the flexibility out of copyright works have to contribute to greater society and creative practices. A public domain day celebration is a good place to start. Approaching the National Library to request grant funding and publication of some of those works. Looking to raise awareness. Others noted that there's an english wikisource page that lists newly out of copyright publications (for both NZ and US) https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Requested_texts/1926


Next meeting and Meetup timetables edit

  • 29 May 2022, same time, same place