Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/Meetup 6 August 2022

Wellington Meetup 6 August 2022 edit

  • Date: Saturday 6 August 2022
  • Time: 10:00 am to midday
  • Location: Under COVID Alert Level ORANGE or GREEN : He Matapihi Molesworth Library at National Library, corner Molesworth and Aitken Streets, Wellington
    Come to the main entrance of the National Library on Molesworth Street.
  • Location: Under COVID Alert Level RED : Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WellingtonWikimediaMeetup
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers).
  • Bring (if meeting under Alert Level ORANGE or GREEN): a laptop if you have one. There are publicly available computers if you don't have a laptop.

Venue edit

Under COVID Alert Level Orange or Green the group meet at the He Matapihi Molesworth Library within the National Library. This is a Wellington City Council pop up public library. It was formerly The National Library net.work space. Drinks are permitted in the library. Under COVID Alert Level Red the group meet via video conference call.

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference edit

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

The video conferencing meetup is a replacement for the in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link in the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Future Meetups edit

This is a monthly event occurring every four weeks, but double check the Wikipedia:Wellington Meetup page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

The Meeting edit

Attending edit

Add your User name to the list by adding an asterisk and four tildes like this: * ~~~~ It's important to add your name as we are tracking attendence and reporting numbers back to Wikimedia Foundation as metric of the impact of Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand.

Unable to come edit

  • Ambrosia10 (talk) - family commitments
  • Chocmilk03 (talk) 00:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC) alas, didn't realise it was this weekend and just ran into Marshelec on his way out (on my way in to pick up some resources!). Hope to make the next one![reply]
  • Noracrentiss (talk) Family committments

Agenda and Notes from Meeting edit

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers (if there are any newbies joining us)

2. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on

  • Marshelec has recently returned from visiting the West Coast and Giantflightlessbirds. Marshelec has been contributing to the Wikipedia:GLAM/WestCoastWPAL/2022 The group made lots of progress on various articles. Marshelec noted that significant work was still needed on articles for most New Zealand National Parks. A stocktake of the articles is needed to determine the best way forward. Giantflightlessbirds is meeting the Department of Conservation in Westport, and this may lead to the development of a project. Marshelec has made 600 edits in the past 30 days and also completed his first review of someone else’s Did You Know application.
  • Gertrude206 has continued to work with two new editors. One is working on a new article on basketball team rating systems. The other is working on an article about Summer City. Both new editors have particular topics they want to create new pages for and this has made training them a challenge. Group discussed the common issue that new editors often need to change the way they think about writing authoritatively when contributing to Wikipedia. Acknowledging Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and approaching without ego and collaboratively should be emphasised. For those that are interested on only one article or a specific topic posting a blog post might be a better platform for them.
  • Einebillion has been contributing in a small way with a short session on the Wikidata New Zealand Thesis project google sheets. This resulted in a New Zealand academic requesting an update of their page. Einebillion has forwarded the Wikimedia New Zealand facebook group in the hopes that someone picks this up.


3. Progress on Action Points and future events

Don't forget to add your program to the Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page.


4. Good Article / Featured Article Work The next focus article is: Matiu / Somes Island

Progress update? Not much progress.

5. Wikicon Wellington Discussion

Audience Group agreed that the Wikicon in February is for editors that have some experience. Newbies should be encouraged to attend a training session that could be run a week or fortnight prior. This information should be included in the promotional material.

Duration Group agreed that the Wikicon should be over two days and should start later on the Saturday to ensure those that arrive by flights in the morning have time to get to the location.

Presentation ideas Group brainstormed options for the programme.

  • Manager of Otari Wilton’s Bush could be invited to talk about 3 to 5 of their selected rare plants and then take the group into the bush to show them the specimens.
  • DrThneed could be invited to talk about the Thesis project
  • Ambrosia10 could be invited to talk about species boxes / info boxes including template creation and how the templates works with Wikidata.
  • Avocadobabygirl could be invited to talk about Te Papa’s Wikimedia Commons project
  • Beeswaxcandle or Giantflightlessbirds could be invited to deliver a Wikisource tutorial
  • Project lead for Te Papa’s Spencer Digby Ronald D. Woolf project could be invited to present on how a digitisation project works and show what resources are available for the community to use.
  • An editor could be invited to discuss how to get books into Wikidata and how to use Cite-Q
  • How many newish editors will attend? Do we need a general introduction to all Wikimedia Foundation projects? Ambrosia10 has a presentation that was delivered to the Auckland Wikicon last year.

Support for Presenters. Group agreed that the Wikicon funding should include paying for the travel and accommodation of speakers.

Action points: Ask Ambrosia10 whether she could coordinate contacting speakers and book the venue.

Discussion amongst members - some expressed worry about the Wiki at Otari Wilton Bush location and [[


6. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of

General discussion on the increasing difficulty to encourage new editors and also volunteers to a variety of groups. Most of the group are members of other volunteer run organsations and are noticing that all of these organisations seem to be struggling to recruit new volunteers. Reasons could be that people are more reluctant to join in person meetings because of COVID risks and with the cost of living people’s work might be more of a priority.

Einebillion reminded group about the upcoming Wikimania events. Group agreed the timezone setting will make attending challenging. None of the group are likely to attend.

Einebillion informed group about a recent discussion with Wikimedia Australia and that there will be a Wikidata fellowship available plus support for 1 Lib 1 Ref. Support for Wiki Loves Earth campaign from New Zealand will be dependent on capacity. There is a limited amount of people / organisers in New Zealand who are able to support this work.

7. Demonstration of a tool

  • Last meeting attendees wanted a "how to" on Barnstars. Group decided to deferr this to next session.


8. Get on with problem solving, editing, and chatting

Outcomes edit

Next meeting and Meetup timetables edit

  • 3 September 2022, same time, same place