User talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao/Archive 40

Tombe à la fille

Hi, dearest Ser Amantio di Nicolao, how are you? Me and my family are very well.

I just opened this little page about this interesting French monument, and I ask you, please, some minute of your time to correct my mistakes, just 3 minutes.

Thanks a lot for your very important help, see you soon

Rei Momo (talk) 13:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

categories

Ser AdN! Would like to know if you would be open to contributing to a page on partnerism based on the work of [1]Riane Eisler] that I am starting to put together. Saw you were a major contrib to her page. Bensig~enwiki (talk) 23:20, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Hey, Ser AdN! I've got a lot of women chefs on my watchlist, and I've seen a series of edits like this one, where you're adding American chefs even though they're already in its subcat American women chefs. I would have assumed I shouldn't add them to both. What am I misunderstanding? (Category policy is not a strong suit of mine, so thanks for any pointers!) —valereee (talk) 14:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee: I've always understood by-gender articles to be treated as non-diffusing unless otherwise specified by a particular Wikiproject. For instance, see the hatnote at Category:American women poets. It's a really tricky thing, and it's taken me a long time to wrap my mind around it...and I'm still not always sure that I have. :-)

Hope this helps! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, it does help! I actually had thought it was too bad that you'd have to be specifically looking for (say) women chefs in order to find them. Thanks for the non-diffusing link, that's (once again) a new bit of policy for me! —valereee (talk) 14:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee: I don't remember when I first encountered it - it's been a few years, I'm sure. As I say, it's tricky, and not immediately obvious at all. There are one or two fields - actors, mostly - that don't default to the rule, but I think those are the only ones.

Happy to be of help - and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

I think using the Cat-a-lot custom edit summary is helpful in such cases. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: I have used the feature in the past - I honestly haven't noticed any difference; I seem to get the same number of questions one way or another. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:35, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, maybe it helps those that find the edits years later and start doing similar edits without exactly knowing when such copying to supercategories is in fact appropriate. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Eh, perhaps. I'm still trying to figure out a good pattern for using them, honestly. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

I use them for more or less every category removal outside of Commons, even for things like overcategorisation. Better let everyone understand the matter than leave users not bold enough to ask with their questions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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Help with deletion

Hello Amantia di Nicolao!

My name is Samantha Weisenthal, I have been using Wikipedia for the past two years to create pages which discuss feminism & female musicians of color. The page I most recently posted for a Brooklyn artist titled "Dejha" was taken down by an editor who seems to be inclined towards deleting paged willy-nillym, User:Jimfbleak. My old Professor and now friend Arielle Rotramel recommended I reach out to you with the hopes you could steer me in the right direction to get the page back! The reasons for deletion was, "the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic." If you could please suggest what I can do to bring the page back I would be super grateful!

Best, Samantha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweisent (talk • contribs) 16:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Sweisent: Honestly, I've looked at the page as it originally stood, and it had a couple of problems: most notably, it lacked references, which is an especially big problem for an article about a living person. (Please see here for a discussion of sourcing articles about living people.) I cannot speak to notability, because I'm not up-to-date on trends in popular music, but a cursory glance at Google doesn't suggest that there are enough secondary sources to indicate her notability, I'm afraid. At least not online - are there sources in print? (Regardless: I can tell you that articles about musical artists always get more scrutiny than others, because there are so many of them being created.)

What I would recommend doing: join Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red and ask for assistance in talkspace. There are editors there who can help you create articles on the subjects you'd like to work on, and can give you better advice than I can on researching.

Also, one note of caution: I'd be careful in ascribing motives to other editors in circumstances such as this. I don't know User:Jimfbleak personally, but I don't see anything in his editing history to indicate that he deletes articles willy-nilly - he's a well-regarded editor of long standing. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Pointless edit

Why did you do this? Is there some reason to have one banner before another? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: I'm trying to fix the template from a redirect. Why the templates switched places I do not know; AWB did that automatically, and I don't know how it determined the order. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao, Why are you removing the redirect? That seems like an addition that's only really worth doing if you already doing something else--think of how many (literally) hundreds of thousands of redirects there are here. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:57, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: I'm trying to work on some cleanup of the Women in Music articles (including a lot of tagging), and I'm finding the redirects getting in the way. I mean, it's not urgent: I can stop. Just trying to make life a bit easier, is all. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao, I'm willing to admit that there's something that I'm missing here but I don't see the purpose or what it's hurting to have talk page banner redirects. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: I'm being selfish; I'm preparing to do a run of talkpage tagging, and I'm trying to make it as easy as possible to exclude articles that have been already tagged. Imposing uniformity on the talkpages seems the easiest way for me to do it, but if you're aware of a better way to sort already-tagged articles from others, I'm all ears. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao, You can have a regex to skip [x] or [y] or [z] so that if a talkpage has (e.g.) {{album}} or {{WikiProject Albums}}, it will be skipped but if it doesn't, then {{WikiProject Albums}} will be added. That would avoid this. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: I've been doing that - the problem is there's no one thing I can think of to exclude that would allow me to tag all the articles that need tagging. Anyhow, the point's moot for now, as I'm off to bed. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:07, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao, Sweet dreams. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:08, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Exclude what from where? Did you think about using the category to which the talk pages are getting added in some way? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 07:08, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: What I would like to do is exclude already-tagged articles from a list of articles of women in music. That would be easy enough to do with PetScan, only I don't know how to make it work between article- and talkspace. So, for instance: if I could run a search through all articles under the Category:Female musicians and its subcats, but exclude everything in Category:WikiProject Women in music articles. I'm sure there's a way to do it, but I've never been able to figure it out. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Use AWB to get a list from Category:WikiProject Women in music articles, use "convert to articles", copy that as pagepile to PetScan and do the set operations. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Thanks - I'll give that a try tonight and see what happens. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I suppose that worked? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: It did not, actually. There's another feature of PetScan I had not encountered before - it allows you to exclude articles with particular templates on their talkpages. (On the third tab.) Combining the first tab with the third gave me what I was looking for. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:21, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

I know I'm late to the discussion, but I've just tripped over a few of your edits like this one, where AWB's general fixes added {{WikiProject banner shell}}. Unfortunately, when AWB doesn't recognize that a redirect template (e.g. {{album}}, {{wpbio}}) is a WikiProject banner, AWB will move the template underneath the other WikiProjects and not include it in the shell. If you decide to do another run through talk pages, you might want use the custom module User:Magioladitis/WikiProjects to cleanup the redirects, or create your own find/replace rules. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:14, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Ah, thanks - I hadn't realized there was a module that might work around that. I was trying to do it manually - fixing it where I caught it, but letting it slip through more often than I'd like. Thanks for the tip; next time I do a run of talkpage edits I'll keep the module in mind. Happy editing, and happy new year! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:10, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject banners

Once again, WikiProject Biography should stay at the top at least for living persons. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:53, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Howdy, there ... WikiProject Women in Music

Sometimes I'm a little slow on the uptake. And you're probably the best unpaid publicist a project could have. This project has been out there - what ... a year? And I never noticed. Lately, I've been seeing you add the banner to select articles I created. It got me to notice it. Gerda Arendt did you know about the existence of WikiProject Women in Music? And doesn't it seem curious that Wikipedia has been around for all these years, and this project never existed before? Keep up the good work Ser Amantio di Nicolao. — Maile (talk) 17:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Maile66: You're not alone: I didn't realize it existed either until a couple of weeks ago. I think there are a few more than 4,000 items left to tag, according to my current list. Once that's done I have a lot of other tagging to do, too. Anyhow, happy to be of help. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:59, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

I didn't know but noticed the tags, and probably wrote a few GAs and many DYKs. I tag them for WIR, and EUR10k, but as I copy talk page entries, I will copy these as well. Cosima Wagner? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: I added it to the talkpage. I also added it to articles on women musicologists and opera librettists, and should probably consider a run on women opera directors as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

I just added a bunch of these to a few that you somehow hadn't come across (amazing ... but its true ...). Just FYI, I have included Hawaii's women chanters among this. Chanting is also a field of music. I don't know what the originators of this project had in mind, but as far as I'm concerned, music is music, regardless of its form.— Maile (talk) 22:51, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Maile66: How are they categorized? It's possible that they didn't turn up in my category search, for one thing. Alternatively, they could be alphabetically farther down the list than I've gotten yet. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 23:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Not categorized, but what was in my head. My search was through lists I'd either created, or otherwise contributed to, over the years. I got the chanters from Hawaiian Music Hall of Fame. And there was User:Maile66/CreatedWomen and I otherwise looked throught the various {{United States Women's Halls of Fame}} You had already gotten most of those. — Maile (talk) 23:37, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Maile66: Ah, OK then. Thanks. Once I've finished up with the set I generated I'll try one or two other things, but that should cover the vast majority of articles eligible to be tagged. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:New Democratic Party (Serbia) politicians

Hello. I see that you've emptied the page "Category:New Democratic Party (Serbia) politicians". I understand your rationale for doing so, but it strikes me that this creates a problem, which I can perhaps best articulate with the following question: how would we account for someone who was a member of the New Democratic Party but left before it was renamed as the Social Democratic Party? Categorizing them as a Social Democratic Party politician doesn't seem quite on the mark.

I've just had a similar conversation with User:Good Olfactory, btw.

(Admittedly, the question is somewhat academic in this case, in that I'm not aware of *any* prominent members of the New Democratic Party who weren't also members of the Social Democratic Party ... but, in theory, there could be a few.) CJCurrie (talk) 01:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@CJCurrie: I take your point - it's one that's rattled around in the back of my mind on many an occasion - but it seems to me that in such instances as this the thing is treated as if the party, itself, does not change, but merely receives a new name. Once in a great while it seems to be different with certain sports teams, but otherwise that's what I've experienced over the years. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I can see both sides of this issue ... my primary concern is that counting these simply as name changes could leads to some really anachronistic situations (e.g., counting John A. Macdonald as a member of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada, when it didn't exist under that name until 51 years after his death).

I'm not especially worried about this change (for the reason I've mentioned above), but my overall preference is still to have different category pages for these scenarios. CJCurrie (talk) 01:35, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@CJCurrie: Put it this way: if the article is subject to a redirect from the old name to the new, then I'm comfortable with the category issue as it is now (though I do understand your concern about anachronism). Using John A. Macdonald as the example, for instance: I see that the Liberal-Conservative Party and the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada are subject to separate articles. Consequently, the category tree has him in the former with no danger of putting him into the latter. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:41, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Admittedly, that was an extreme example; I have the same concerns about less obvious situations. As I've noted, though, I can see sides of the issue, and I don't plan to undo the changes you've made in this situation. Perhaps there should be a community discussion about the larger issue. (If there's already been one, please let me know). CJCurrie (talk) 01:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@CJCurrie: I'm not aware of one - I think it's sort of been figured out over the years as we go. Please let me know if you want to start one, and I'd be happy to join in. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:54, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

Publish a page, step away to make some tea, come back and see that it's already filled with categories ... Now that's a collaborative encyclopedia ;) - Astrophobe (talk) 21:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@Astrophobe: Happy to be of help - categories, as they say, are my jam. :-) Happy editing, and enjoy the tea! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Where's that References section on Talk pages?

FYI, your edit comments for your recent AWB edits on Talk pages do not tally with the actual edits which are to add Wikiproject banners, ie. Special:Permalink/968560529. It confuses me when monitoring my Watchlist. Cheers! – robertsky (talk) 03:58, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Robertsky: I'm...not sure what happened. The edit summary was correct when I began the run. I don't know how it got switched in the middle like that. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

No problem. Just to let you know that it had happened. :) – robertsky (talk) 04:31, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Robertsky: Thanks - sorry for not catching it sooner. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject banner shell errors

Hey Ser Amantio di Nicolao -- I notice you've been tagging lots of articles with the Women in Music & Women Writers WikiProject tags (including a few of my own). This is good stuff, but please be careful not to accidentally break the WikiProject banner shell coding; I've had to correct some source code after your edits.[2] [3] [4] Cheers! Alanna the Brave (talk) 12:20, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Alanna the Brave: Thanks. I've been using a semi-script to fill the template into the talkpages - usually I'm OK, but sometimes it gets away from me, and sometimes I get away from it. I do try to keep an eye on it though, but it slips through the cracks once in a while. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

No worries -- just wanted to make sure you were aware. It can definitely slip through the cracks. Alanna the Brave (talk) 14:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

I know, you don't know me, but I just wanted to say, people like you made my life a lot easier

Jt pandey (talk) 16:18, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jt pandey: Thanks very much - you're very kind. Welcome, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:02, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Maxine Dunlap

Thanks for the edits! And having looked you up, thanks for all your work on WP! Crum375 (talk) 01:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Crum375: Any time - happy to be of help. Thanks for the kind words - happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:45, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Project

Hi, is they a project I could potentially do here, to make the site better, my interests lay in sport, game shows and politics. 82.42.44.219 (talk) 09:34, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Check 82.42.44.219 talk page, I have left you a message there. Thegameshowlad (talk) 13:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

August 2020 at Women in Red

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Washington Football Team draft categories

Hello. Still rather new editor here. I had never moved a category or requested a category page move until now. That was a move-protected category. Had I realized all those declarations needed to be changed, I would have done it myself immediately after I saw the move executed. Thanks for taking care of that. Just curious to know, was that category working in between the time of the move and your changes? --DB1729 (talk) 21:44, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@DB1729: Happy to be of help. The category looked fine when I moved the templates - I think everything was/is in good working order. Didn't see anything amiss. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Glad to hear that:) --DB1729 (talk) 22:28, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:2020-21 in Republic of Macedonia basketball has been nominated for merging

Category:2020-21 in Republic of Macedonia basketball has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Message

I have left you a message on my talk page Thegameshowlad (talk) 20:30, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Category:Women classical guitarists has been nominated for renaming

Category:Women classical guitarists has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:34, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Question

How do you get so much information for this. I want to add more about stuff I am interested in Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

HotCat

May I ask why you don't add multiple categories at once with HotCat? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: I never got into the habit. For one thing, adding them one by one means that if I'm not sure of a category I don't have to wait with others until I find the one I'm looking for. For another, sometimes (often) my home internet connection rejects HotCat edits. I'd much rather lose a single category than a string of nine or ten. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:54, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

I-Kiribati law

You cannot have a category such as I-Kiribati (demonym) law, because I-Kiribati is not an adjective but the official name of the people (prefix I- of Gilbertese). I-Niutian means New Zealander or I-Buranti means French people and I-Tiaban means Japanese people. -Arorae (talk) 14:30, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Arorae: You redirected the category to an article, though. You did not move the category. This looks like something to take up at WP:CFD. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:34, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

American guitarists by century

Hello, while there is a separation of Category:American male guitarists by century, Category:American male guitarists is one huge category with almost 4000 members. Do you think diffusing it similarly is useful? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: It might be...but I'm not sure we've gone down that route yet. (i.e. Category:20th-century American male musicians, yes: Category:20th-century American male musicians by instrument, no.) I wouldn't do it just yet - maybe hold off for a few days/weeks. Also, I've e-mailed you a bit more on the subject. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:08, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! One more question concerning this categorisation: Is there any case where gendered categories should not be non-diffusing? Because a lot of Category:Female singer-songwriters by nationality‎ and Category:Male singer-songwriters by nationality‎ subcategories do not bear the corresponding tag. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:39, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Traditionally, as far as I know actors/actresses and musicians have not been non-diffusing. I don't know that there's a clear rule about it - something to raise at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red, I think. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality uses "in almost all cases", as does WP:non-diffusing. I'll ask the WikiProject then, I guess. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: The problem is, I think, that within musicians, at least, there are competing standards, depending on who has been creating the categories. I've meant for some time to raise the issue at the WikiProject, but never got around to it - regardless, we need to ensure clarity on the issue. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Done: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Gendered categories. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, it was archived. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:21, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

How do I create an article?

I would love to right some biography’s. - - Thegameshowlad (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: You can find information at Help:My first article. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:06, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Merci! Thegameshowlad (talk) 21:11, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

*smiles*

I just learned of your massive contribution on here and wanted to thank you. I truly appreciate your effort, and I'm sure many others do aswell.

I hope you're doing well, blessed be. -Carlie Pinkthunder5044 (talk) 06:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Pinkthunder5044: I'm doing well, thanks - you as well, I hope. Thanks very much for the kind words - welcome aboard, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:20, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding draft page

Can you please review https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shiwani_Chakraborty article? Is that article meets wikipedia's guideline or not? Khusin26 (talk) 10:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Khusin26: I'm not good at judging articles about television. Sorry. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey,thank you for reply any suggestion about references .. if u can suggest Khusin26 (talk) 14:23, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

There is a warning on that page...Same name article exist ...Which is a redirect from move...What does it mean..Or how to delete a draft page? Khusin26 (talk) 14:25, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Khusin26: I would ask the editors that declined the article - they can help you better than I can. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:28, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay..Thank you. Khusin26 (talk) 15:41, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Regarding your revert

Hiya, why did you remove my edit from the Wikipedia article on Waddington, Lincolnshire? I added references and expanded on the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lincolnreviewer (talk • contribs) 22:04, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lincolnreviewer: I'm sorry? I added a template - nothing was removed in my edit. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:06, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Sorry! My bad.

@Lincolnreviewer: Quite alright. No harm done. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:08, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for all you do. RichardMcCoy (talk) 17:08, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

@RichardMcCoy: Thanks very much - you're very kind. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:09, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Biscotasing wiki page

Cool story and editing bro! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.100.180.61 (talk) 04:00, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Cool page and story bro. I see you edited Biscotasing Ontario wiki page and got linked here. I am going there tmro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.100.180.61 (talk) 04:02, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Lecuona as "classical"

Are you sure about this modification? Would you definitely consider Lecuona's work as being rooted in Classical music? I appreciate any improvements to that article, as that composer has become a bit of a favorite of mine. - AppleBsTime (talk) 04:50, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

@AppleBsTime: Well, the edit came about because he's categorized under Category:20th-century classical pianists and Category:Cuban classical pianists. That being said, I have seen his work - at least as a composer - discussed in the context of classical music on a number of occasions. Notably, David Mason Greene (who was very strict about the inclusion of non-classical composers in his Biographical Dictionary of Composers) contains an entry for Lecuona. And Greene tends to be my own gold standard on that count, for a number of reasons. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

One of the wonderful things about Wikipedia -- the smart people behind it. Thank you for your explanation; I learn more every day! - AppleBsTime (talk) 13:26, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar

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	For useful edits with AWB, including edits on request. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:52, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Thanks very much - I didn't even realize we had one of those. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:05, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

It's a custom one made for you, but based on Template:Bot operator's barnstar. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:08, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: That would explain it, thanks. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:09, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

your contribution to Richard Kollmar's article

Hello. You recently added the category "20th century American male singers" to the very bottom of his article. Is it still there? A banned user known as Pinkadelica rolled back the page. I recommend you make sure the category you added is still there. Also, I recommend reading the Talk page for Richard Kollmar or at least scrolling to the last issue that has to do with racism among Wikipedia editors. Pinkadelica's multiple edits of Richard Kollmar's page are questionable.Brent Brant (talk) 23:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

• You removed the category in your own edit. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Bureaucracy

I wish to nominate you for Bureaucracy on this wiki, what you have done over the last 15 and a half years is incredible and you well and truly deserve the highest rank. Thegameshowlad (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: Thanks, but I'm not entirely sure I want to be a bureaucrat. I need to do some research on the subject and get back to you. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

It is only additional powers not any obligatory/extra responsibilities, if they was anything extra that you had to do I wouldn't have nominated you without asking. Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:04, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

And you think "powers" is what makes users better? Bureaucracy obviously comes with additional responsibilities, and you shouldn't be a bureaucrat if you don't do/are not willing to do the bureaucrat tasks. Not everyone is a Hat collector. Ser Amantio does not seem to be interested in maintenance/administrative tasks that much, why should he want to get an additional role directly related to even more administration? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:06, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Steven, you are an absolute legend kudos for every damn good edit you have made to this site. Thegameshowlad (talk) 15:18, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: Thanks very much - you're very kind. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

No worries, you are an inspiration to people like me. Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:05, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Services top spam protection Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:40, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Crat

Hi Steven, have you researched about crats and what they do. You certainly deserve it. Do you actually still enjoy doing this after 15 years? Thegameshowlad (talk) 17:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: I have not researched, no, and will not be able to do so for much of the day; I have other chores which need attending to. As to your other question - yes, generally, I do still enjoy doing what I do after fifteen years. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:11, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Most user rights are not about deserving to bear them but about willing to regularly do the accompanying tasks. Why should a user become a bureaucrat if he is not interested in the work he would need to do? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: I have not researched, no, and will not be able to do so for much of the day; I have other chores which need attending to. As to your other question - yes, generally, I do still enjoy doing what I do after fifteen years. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:11, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicalao, no worries, is it morning where you are in the states? Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: Midafternoon. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

List of rural localities in Vladimir Oblast

Glad to see I'm not the only person who uses edit summaries like "oh nuts" :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 18:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: You can sometimes trace the history of a particularly bad day on my part: the edit summaries will read something like:

• [initial edit]
• [correcting error]
• [grrrrrrr]
• [asaskjgksjasadgasfasdgas]
• [*sigh*]

I wasn't quite myself this morning, but I haven't gotten that far yet, thank the Lord. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh that cracks me up, I've definitely done runs like that too. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 18:35, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: I think it's happened to just about anyone who's been here long enough. For myself, I sometimes say that I think my edit count is as high as it is largely because I'm a bit of a hamfingered klutz who covers it up well. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:39, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Please finish article

Hello, Back in 2012 you started an article on Guenette. Please finish. HeartGlow ^(talk) 03:08, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Harassment

Hi Steven,

Can you deal with User:Praxidicae, please. He has being harassing and questioning me about stuff that isn’t ANYTHING to do with him.

Thegameshowlad (talk) 18:19, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

@Thegameshowlad: Praxidicae has not done anything untoward here; you are far too early in your Wiki career to even consider adminship. I would strongly suggest that you spend some time writing/creating content instead of poking about in the administrative sectors of Wikipedia. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:21, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your advise Steven I will take it on board. Sorry. Thegameshowlad (talk) 19:15, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Possible legal threat

Hi - I found you on the list of recently active admins because I didn't necessarily want to start an ANI thread about this, but over at Talk:John Helvin and the history of the AfD I recently started for that article there are a number of possible legal threats against me by accounts that I suspect are socks. These were a few days ago and I shrugged them off, but reconsidered and thought I should let someone know. Thanks for any assistance you can offer, and apologies for the interruption. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: I'm actually about to step away for a bit, sorry. If you can wait until I get back in an hour or so, I can dig up the requisite link for you to report it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:27, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Of course, no hurry! I can definitely wait (and can also find the link on my own) :) Thanks for your help. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 02:31, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: Try emergency@wikimedia.org - they could help, or they could direct you to a better source. I'll look at the accounts and see if anything needs banning. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: Hrmm...interesting. I wonder if a visit to WP:SPI is in order? I may post over at ANI myself for some clarity. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:00, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I really appreciate your help. As I said, I'm not that worried about it, but wanted to be better safe than sorry. As for SPI, I was thinking about opening a case, but since they haven't tried to game the AfD yet I was holding off as it seemed like wasted effort until there was actually a problem that needed remedying. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:02, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: Any time. I went ahead and raised it at WP:ANI. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:06, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For your incredibly gracious handling of my issue with John Helvin, after I messaged you out of nowhere. Really appreciate it. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: Aw, shucks, 'twarn't nothin'. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:28, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Shortdesc re-ordering with AWB

While reviewing some of my own edits, I noticed that your use of AWB often results in short descriptions being bumped below hatnotes in a genfix, despite MOS:ORDER (example). I often didn't notice that happening myself. The AWB guys fixed the bug soon after releasing 6.1.0.1 but still haven't issued a binary release in almost a year. I integrated the fix in my own copy but I do recommend bumping to latest source or at least version 12363 if you are able. If not, I can offer a binary of the current latest. Best wishes, David Brooks (talk) 19:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Thanks very much for the alert. When I return to the computer this evening I'll download the latest release. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:44, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. Just to be clear: you need the source. I'll bug the AWB guys again to bump the binary. And, fwiw, I added module code to elevate the short description from anywhere in the article, not just Section 0 (which is what the genfix looks at). Some people bury it just above categories. David Brooks (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Here's the problem - I don't have a clue what to do with the source. Mind walking me through it? I've always used the latest download version of AWB. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:35, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Do you trust me to drop the binary in my cloud? David Brooks (talk) 23:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Yes, absolutely. Thanks very much in advance; I'm afraid that I'm far more of a Luddite than people seem to expect. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 23:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuCZY0YF4hGorc14ZPbYZEf69IHCw should download a zip file that looks like the official download minus the plugins. It's built from the current head version of their source code control. No problem being a luddite; downloading and configuring both a SVN client and Visual Studio, and learning both, is a steep hill. 18 years working at Microsoft helps :-) David Brooks (talk) 00:41, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Microsoft, eh? Don't know whether to thank you for your hard work or curse you every time my government computer screws up. :-)

Thanks for the zip file...I'm working with it now, and will let you know if I run into any issues. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Full disclosure: for a brief interval this morning on one of my PCs, Microsoft threat detection claimed a Trojan in the binaries in that package. This PC had a threat database dating from 2am; when I updated it there was a new version from 7am and the threat no longer appears. My other PC never showed a problem. So I'm sure it was a false positive due to a short-lived error introduced by my erstwhile colleagues, but you might want to scan your PC anyway. Sorry about this. David Brooks (talk) 16:45, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Thanks for the heads-up - I think I'll trust that everything's OK for now. As it is, my virus scanner never likes AWB when I redownload it, anyhow. It seems, by the way, to be working great, so thanks very much again. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

(ahem, politely and gently) SD re-ordered. Unfortunately I'm getting obssessive about checking articles I recently edited. David Brooks (talk) 17:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Apologies - I'd meant to alert you, but got caught up in the undertow of life. A couple of weeks ago, my computer summarily deleted your AWB version from my desktop as I was in the middle of using it. I tried redownloading it a couple of times, but it was blocked each time, and I'm not savvy enough to figure out a workaround. Basically, it's adamant that the new version is a virus, and even if I tell the system I want it I'm being denied. I went back to the other in the hopes that the likelihood of error was small enough that I could take the risk. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:31, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Sorry about the misfortune; undertow is a good word to describe life events right now. Two things. Make sure your virus protection is current. On my Windows 10, it's the version created on 9/14, version 1.323.1165.0 (Windows Security/Virus and threat protection/Check for updates). It's always possible you still have that old false-positive version. And it looks like the URL I gave you earlier has expired (long story) so try this: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuCZY0YF4hGordTv9R8vbJEJvWTKg?e=FapEEe.

While I remember: I appreciate the Gianni Schicchi reference. I have a vague memory of singing at least part of Il Trittico in Boston's Symphony Hall eons ago while with the Newton Choral Society -- surprisingly vague, because I can usually remember everything I've performed in the past 55 years. Also I know Tony Barrese, music director of Opera Southwest (he was at high school with my kids), who is something of a Puccini/Rossini (and Faccio) expert. When Simonetta Puccini died, Tony described her approval of his Bohème at La Scala, so in his and her honor I created that article. David Brooks (talk) 22:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Thanks for the link, and the anti-virus advice; I'll download it shortly and see what happens.

I actually met Simonetta Puccini, some twenty-odd years ago; we used to have a little opera company around here, Opera Theater of Northern Virginia (which probably warrants an article by now), that did fascinating and unusual rep. They did both Le villi and Edgar (the latter with Carl Tanner, as I recall, in one of his earliest roles), and invited her over for both; my father introduced me. (Over the years I also saw Linda di Chamounix, Fra Diavolo, Oberto, conte di San Bonifacio, Il corsaro...they did a lot of interesting stuff. I'm not quite sure what brought about their downfall, but I'm very sorry for the loss.) Funny you mention Tony Barrese - the local radio station's Saturday opera this past weekend was last season's Bless Me, Ultima from Albuquerque. And my folks and I saw Amleto when he put it on out in Wilmington a few seasons ago. Fascinating work; it's one of the rare lost gems that I have actually enjoyed. As for Schicchi, it remains the only part of the Trittico I've seen live (not that I mind) - there was going to be a Tabarro around here a few months ago, but alas it was cancelled due to circumstance. Perhaps next season.

I have to ask - what voice part do you sing? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:57, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Fascinating. My family claims a small part in Tony's career: he was a teenage rock musician but his family (with Italian roots) played a lot of opera at home, and he obviously wanted to go deeper into music. My kids were in an youth orchestra at the NEC Extension Division, which meant driving to Boston every Saturday, and we persuaded his parents that it was the right environment for him, especially as it was a good place for crossover between genres. My daughter played viola in his attempt at a string quartet (which his teacher panned). But after that he was off on his own path. My son and I went to Albuquerque in 2014, from Seattle and Portland respectively, for the first performances of Amleto. Haven't seen him since but we keep in touch via Facebook. He recently did a similar reconstruction of Bottesini's Ali Baba.

I used to was a tenor, but haven't been in a chorus for years and my untrained 71-year-old voice doesn't fit well in a chorus now. I did sing at Cambridge (Gerontius in King's under Benjamin Britten's baton in 1971) and various England and Massachusetts choruses until moving out West for 20 years, and then only the occasional festival one-offs. I mainly play timp/perc in community orchestras -- once played the two timp rolls in Va pensiero and then stood up to sing, because why wouldn't you. Anyway, interesting to hear how small the world is. David Brooks (talk) 02:30, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

And OSW's Lohengrin is being broadcast this coming Saturday. Tony reduced the orchestration to under 40 players, which was apparently what was used at the premiere. David Brooks (talk) 15:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: So it is - I'd forgotten. I'll probably give it a miss - I'm not exactly Wagner's biggest fan, though I've seen most of the mature work by now (and a severely abbreviated Rienzi a few years ago, in concert. I remember that it was a fine performance, but that's about it.) You can thank him for the Bottesini for me, though...I'm hoping very much that it makes its way east in a year or two and we'll have access to it at Wilmington. And thank you for the encouragement you gave his parents - I wish there were more conductors in this country who followed his path and resurrected such interesting older material. (We're very lucky here to have Washington Concert Opera, which often does some of the more obscure Rossini and other bel canto. Had Zelmira with Lawrence Brownlee last year - I'm still coming down off of that high.)

You talk of Britten (one of my gods - I actually used the username AlbertHerring on here for a couple of years before switching) - one of my great memories is hearing the War Requiem for the centennial year when the Baltimore Symphony put it on. My father never met Britten, but he did meet Peter Pears once - backstage at another War Requiem, I believe. As for "why wouldn't you", you're making me think of my own choral bucket list as a singer, which would include the War Requiem, Belshazzar (of which I have been nose-deep for the past couple of years), and Vaughan Williams' Hodie (another of my gods.) And, oddly, a little Horatio Parker. My own brushes with greatness have been few, and mostly as a listener.

Incidentally, speaking of Vaughan Williams and Cambridge, one of my most treasured recordings is the Pilgrim's Progress with John Noble under Boult, which EMI (I believe) reissued on CD some years back. There's another piece I wouldn't mind a crack at...I could probably even manage enough power to sing one of the Shepherds in the last scene. (Tenor as well, of the first variety.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

We should probably take this to email :-). I can brag about Belshazzar: with CUMS in 1970, at the rebuilt Maltings in the presence of Pears and Britten, and of my then fiancée, whom I met at a Prom in 1968 and who is now working on a jigsaw in the next room. I sung WR under Ledger in the early 70's; Ben was supposed to be there but he was, of course, pretty ill in those last years. It was performed in Worcester, Mass, in November 2018 with some combined choruses and a scratch orchestra and, honestly, it was the most committed and passionate of the (few) performances I've heard. But no Hodie, and I had to miss a run-through of Dona Nobis Pacem a few years back to my lasting sadness. I have that Pilgrim's Progress in the Warner Classics 30-CD Complete Works, but haven't given it a listen yet :-(. TBH, I generally identify as a percussionist these days, best memory having led the 11-person section for the first Seattle performance of Turangalîla; a festival group, not the SSO. David Brooks (talk) 16:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Email, talkspace - I'm easy either way. :-) You've sung at finer establishments than I, I can tell you - most of my choral career has been spent in small local churches in the DC area. I don't believe I've ever worked with any soloists of note. And we generally don't work with orchestra - we get a pick-up group here and there, but that's about it. Who was the soloist for the Belshazzar? (Talking of those last years of Britten's life, incidentally, one of my favorite of his works, troublesome though I often find it, is Death in Venice. Much to unwrap there.)

My adventures have been more in the realm of Orthodox music, such as singing the Georgian liturgy in Tbilisi last year - first time in a century that the piece had been heard in Georgian in Georgia. That...was something. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Herincx, if memory serves. I do remember I was standing pretty close to him and it was deafening! We also did Delius's Appalachia, which has a brief baritone solo. And don't be too impressed; my "fine establishment" singing was really limited to pre-1975 school and university events: Cambridge, Maltings, and before that RFH and RAH while a 60's schoolboy. David Brooks (talk) 17:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Herincx I know by reputation, but nothing else, I'm afraid. Delius, now, there's an interesting guy. I have much less familiarity with his music than I'd like, but every time I hear something of his I'm taken with it. His Virginia connection doesn't hurt, either. :-) Funny thing - he came up in a roundabout way during some of my recent research for Women in Red. One of his librettists was Jutta Bell-Ranske, who was apparently a neighbor of his in Florida; she collaborated with him on two libretti. She also wrote the libretto for The Temple Dancer of John Adam Hugo, which is probably the most obscure of the world premieres the Metropolitan offered under Giulio Gatti-Casazza. (Of Hugo, incidentally, I find little trace beyond the linked article - Google reveals that he was married, had at least one son, and is buried in Bridgeport. I've heard tell that his scores are in manuscript in the city library there, and would love to resurrect something of his one day.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:59, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Check out Percy Grainger's choral setting (and inauthentic extension) of the "collected" song Brigg Fair (oh, look at who originated that article), and then Delius's orchestral variations elaborating on Grainger. Both equally fascinating, and I've performed in both. I got my conductor, somewhat reluctantly, to let me play the song to our orchestra before rehearsing the variations. David Brooks (talk) 18:43, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Brigg Fair was one of the first pieces I ever purchased on Naxos, way back when. Grainger, now, there's a wonderful nut of the first order. Somewhere around here I have a piece from the Choral Journal about his folk song settings, if that might be of interest. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Thegameshowlad

FYI User:Thegameshowlad has been trying to ping you to his talk page to examine his unblock request. He hasn't had success with understanding the ping template, so I am notifying you on his behalf. only (talk) 17:57, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

@Only: Thanks. I'm in the middle of something at the moment, but I'll take a look when I have the time. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Just wanted to thank you, Steven

I know this isn't supposed to be on a talk page on Wikipedia but I just wanted to thank him in case he ever comes across this. And I didn't want to vandalize his official Wikipedia page. Thank you Steven for providing the world with free information. You have made this world a much better place with your work. It has made Wikipedia a much better place and me and millions of other people want to thank you for providing the world with free information. Thank you, a thousand thanks! --Der under Smurf (talk) 10:58, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Der under Smurf: You're very kind - thanks very much. Welcome aboard, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:41, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Same, I want to drop by and pay my respects. Thank you Steven for everything you have done, your work saved a lot of students who had to finish their work in the last minute. LordRogalDorn (talk) 10:20, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@LordRogalDorn: You're too kind *blush*. You overstate my influence, surely, but thanks very much all the same. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:56, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Fyodor Gavrilov for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Fyodor Gavrilov is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fyodor Gavrilov until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, saw that you created this article. I couldn't find anything about the subject, so have nominated it for deletion. Really sorry for any inconvenience, and please know I certainly do not intend this personally! AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@AleatoryPonderings: Certainly - no offense taken. This is one of those whose presence is likely to be in print. I will double-check the book when I get home, and see if I can't find anything else on him. I doubt there's much - the mere fact that we know his name at all is interesting to me. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:36, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Certainly! Thanks for taking a look. Perhaps those with Cyrillic will also be able to turn something up online. Thanks again. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:37, 25 August 2020 (U:TC)

@AleatoryPonderings: Also, a little tip: I use Google Translate to back-transliterate names sometimes. Usually works...not always, but usually well enough. :-) (Not sure how well it's working in this casem though.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:39, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Hadn't thought of that—will definitely use it next time :) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:42, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Guadalcázar, San Luis Potosí

Hi, why are you removing the populated places categories? The articles are intended to cover the municipality and town in the same article. In an ideal world of course we'd have articles on all the towns and villages within them but given the info available for most of them it made sense to have "is a town and municipality" in the same article.† Encyclopædius 16:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

That's why the nav box says "Municipalities and municipal seats". The articles are a mess though, it doesn't even mention Guadalcazar town or other villages within it only mentions two other ones! It;s definitely a town as well see here Even Spanish wiki redirects it. † Encyclopædius 16:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Encyclopædius: The thing is, municipalities of Mexico are already categorized as "populated places" at the category level: I was just cleaning up the articles per WP:SUBCAT. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:49, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Maybe there should be a subcategory for towns in Category:Populated places in San Luis Potosí then? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:32, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Well, the municipality is 3000 odd square kilometres and has 110 settlements. We really ought to have a separate article on the main town and articles on all the settlements. In a truly comprehensive Wikipedia Guadalcazar would have its own nav box with over 100 articles linked in it on the settlements and local churces etc! Maybe long term you did the right thing. The articles are a complete mess, badly need editors to go through them and get them up to a decent level.† Encyclopædius 11:22, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@Encyclopædius: There's a lot of overcategorization in geographic articles, I find. And "populated place" is such a squishy term, anyway. I've been going back over some old geo categories and cleaning them up/otherwise getting them into some semblance of order, and it's incredible to see some of the mess that has attached to them over five years. Check out Category:Communes of Niger, for instance, or Category:Communes of Mauritania - half of them aren't even categorized by region, which means it will take me a fair chunk of time to go through and do it manually. Same with Category:Populated places in Chad. Nothing against the way they were created, but nobody's looked at them in years and there have been a lot of changes to the category scheme in the interim. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:11, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

AWB introducing errors

See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Mills&type=revision&diff=975368161&oldid=971937893 where it moved a hatnote to a position other than the top of the article. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: Drat - I'm using a version that was supposed to eliminate problems like that. I'll mention it to the creator, thanks. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Koavf: No, Ser Amantio was right. MOS:ORDER rules here. Sadly, the currently released binary of AWB incorrectly moves hatnotes above short description. That was fixed in AWB's source almost a year ago, but they still haven't released a new binary, so many AWB users (although I see that's not you, Koavf) have inadvertently gotten it wrong. Ser Amantio is using a rebuilt binary. David Brooks (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

DavidBrooks, I'm confused by what you're writing. What do you mean, "No, SA was right"? We were not in dispute... ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I may have joined the middle of a conservation, but all I meant to say was that SA was mistaken in thinking he was mistaken. David Brooks (talk) 18:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Anon just inserted unsourced and implausible death info

User 47.60.34.125 is doing exactly the same tricks as 137.101.89.177. KittenKlub (talk) 16:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@KittenKlub: Thanks very much. I've left a warning - I'll block if they try again. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

François Andrieu

Ser Amantio di Nicolao, I hope you're doing well. I've been working on some minor composers: Grimace and starting François Andrieu. Grimace I believe has the appropriate wikidata identifiers, but François Andrieu is missing this one and I'm not sure how to enter it in. (I tried but got an error message) There may be other missing identifiers for François Andrieu that I'm not aware of – any help would be appreciated. Aza24 (talk) 06:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Aza24: I'm not sure - it looks like BNF identifiers are sourced to another page instead of the one you linked. I tried tinkering with it a bit without success; I'll have to work on it some more in the morning. I'll let you know what turns up. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:25, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Weird... I can't imagine how there could be another François Andrieu who lived in the 14th century and wrote Armes amours :) No rush though, thanks for willing to help out. Aza24 (talk) 06:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Lol there are actually might be another François Andrieu who lived in the 14th century and wrote Armes amours...! Magister Franciscus (whose WP article I will have to create...) seems to be thought as of the same person, is the wiki identifier that was seemingly already sourced used for Magister Franciscus perhaps? I think I've seen it in the past where a person's WP article doesn't exist but their wiki data one does. Aza24 (talk) 07:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

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AWB Short Description redux

You aren't alone; I noticed three other very experienced editors using AWB to inadvertently drop Short Description under hatnotes, and I pointed two of them at the new binary. Perhaps we can all try to upvote an official binary update. David Brooks (talk) 19:41, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Thanks for the tip; I'll pop over there and say something in the discussion before the end of the day. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Lindsey Wilson College faculty

A tag has been placed on Category:Lindsey Wilson College faculty requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Draftified article Matvey Lykov

Hello! Thank you soo much for undeleting and draftifying my article Draft:Matvey Lykov. I followed the suggestions of other admins and removed the sentence about his fashion model list rankings. Would you say the draft is okay now? If not, could you possible suggest what to alter? This would be really amazing. Also: when the draft is ready, do I simply need to copy and paste it, and create the article anew, or do I need to "turn" the draft into an article, in case that is possible? I'm so sorry for the stupid question, but I've never edited an undeleted and draftfied article before. It would really help me a lot, if you could reply. Thank you so much in advance! I'm looking forward to hearing from you. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 13:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jasmin Ariane: The article looks good to me, but I'm really not the person to ask: I don't do a lot of writing/editing about actors or models. I would look around and see if you can find some editors who do - perhaps Wikipedia:WikiProject Film might have some advice?

As for preparing it to go live, the best thing to do, rather than copy and paste, would be to move it over from draft space. The procedure is simple - I can walk you through it when the time comes. It's preferred to do it that way because it preserves the entirety of the article's history. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:36, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your answer! Jasmin Ariane (talk) 16:13, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jasmin Ariane: Any time - sorry I can't be of more help. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Please block

Please block GrayEcke (talk · contribs), user persistently spreads anti-Biden agenda and obviously WP:NOTHERE. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 05:53, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Nkon21: I'm heading away shortly. I won't have time to investigate before then. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:55, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully...

...this will bring a smile. I was having a discussion with my son last night, and knowing that I do a little bit of work on Wikipedia, he asked me if I ever had heard of you. But he used your "real world name", so I told him I didn't recognize it. Then he said that you even had a WP page, so that's how I learned who he was talking about (as I know of you). I've taken a break the last 8 months, but the result of that conversation led me to decide to give WP another shot. Regardless, he (and I) is a fan.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 15:26, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Onel5969: Glad I could be of help in the decision. :-) It still boggles my mind that my name crops up in contexts like that - I've had a couple of friends tell me, for instance, that they've seen me in memes, and at least one guy swears his DoD group knows who I am. Humbling, a bit frightening...I hope I live up to expectations.

Welcome back; I don't know that our paths have crossed much, as I do comparatively little work on film, but I've always recognized and respected the work you do, and am always glad to see your signature when it crops up in discussion. Hadn't realized that you were on a break, which says more about my penchant for navel-gazing than anything else. I do understand the compunction; this place can be headache-inducing at times.

Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:40, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Cantanhede, Portugal

Dear Ser, love the Samuel Barber quote on your user page! Here is my question: would you please consider adding to your list of famous people from Cantanhede, the composer António Fragoso who was born (and died of the “Spanish” flu) in Pocariça? Although he was only 21 when he died, I’m reasonably sure that if you have a chance to listen to any of his music on YouTube you will agree that the quality of his all-too-brief output merits his inclusion. Thanks! ZinniaZither (talk) 10:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@ZinniaZither: I do know Fragoso's music - I have some of it on disc. Very lovely. I can add him to the list, certainly - but you can also do so if you wish. Doesn't have to be me that adds it. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:29, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) are you talking about António Fragoso or about Antônio Cardoso? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 17:31, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. I was feeling overwhelmed by all the instructions, but today I stumbled into the sandbox, took a stab at composing my addition, then did a copy and paste into the article. Whew! Looks okay. Relieved to see the bullet dot automatically supplied! Glad to meet a fellow Fragoso fan. I am brand new to AF as a result of seeking out piano music in the time of pandemic. Thanks again. ZinniaZither (talk) 22:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh, should I have specified Pocariça? ZinniaZither (talk) 22:17, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

@ZinniaZither: I might have, but there's no "should" about it - it looks just fine as it is. :-)

As for Fragoso, I have at least one of the Brilliant Classics releases lying around here somewhere - it's how I discovered him in the first place. Very nice music - as is so often the case, a pity he died so soon. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 23:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

File:MaryJaneHeaston.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:MaryJaneHeaston.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Lord Belbury (talk) 15:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

thank you for making the world a more knowledgeable!!!!

Aidan glendenning (talk) 22:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@Aidan glendenning: Thanks very much - I promise to love him and pet him and call him George. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:50, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Just wanted to say hi!

I've just made my 500th edit and it made me appreciate Wikipedia a lot more. It's truly amazing how many edits you've made! In all of your wiki-knowledge do you have any tips? That's all I want to say feel free to respond or ignore. --Colin dm (talk) 15:25, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

@Colin dm: Thanks very much for the kind words. The one tip I have above all is always: be patient. This place can be overwhelming sometimes - I'm sure you've already encountered that during your time here - and I find that a good deal of patience helps a lot. Otherwise my usual advice is to watch and listen - you can learn a lot by doing both.

And happy editing, of course! (Which, I know, I always say...but it's true, too. Editing should be fun; if it ever stops being fun, then it may be time to step away for a bit and clear your head.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:37, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank's for the response 😃. Happy editing! --Colin dm (talk) 15:55, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Discussion about splitting priest categories?

Is there a discussion somewhere about splitting the American priest category by date? I see quite a few errors being introduced and I'm not sure the specificity is needed.--Jahaza (talk) 05:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jahaza: None that I've seen. Just saw an oversized category that needed work. And there appears to be some precedent - see Category:20th-century English Roman Catholic priests and the like.

I mean, I'll hold off on doing any more, certainly. But the category contained just over 1,300 items earlier this evening, for what it's worth. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Welp...

That was a serious RC patrol misfire :\ Aasim 06:11, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim: No worries. I know it's happened to me on more than one occasion. Or two. Or three, or four... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Des Bollieres

The article Des Bollieres has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

I see zero indication that this is an actual town (or even a settlement). These two[5][6] sites, which were the only non-Wikipedia-mirror results for the name, refer to it as a polling division. The name doesn't produce any results on a GMaps search, and the bot-added coords in the article don't map to any named place.

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Dick Wray category Modern Artist?

So, you removed Dick Wray from the category Modern Artist? Can I ask why?

Robert Wray (Son)

@12.25.248.242: He's categorized as a Category:Modern painter - no need to be in the parent category as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Block request

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: User talk:50.26.172.216 keeps making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, by editing many categories. This editor has been warned many times, even been blocked. This editor has not learned a lesson. Can you please block this editor forever. And undo all the edits that has been done. Catfurball (talk) 23:10, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@Catfurball: I'm not seeing anything especially disruptive about the editor - what are you looking at? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: This editor did an edit on Category:21st-century Scottish women writers, and still continues to make edits like this. User:BrownHairedGirl undid the edit on this category, calling it

disruptive editing. Catfurball (talk) 16:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Catfurball: Show me some diffs, please? That particular edit was disruptive, yes, because it disrupted the category syntax as well as adding the template. I have not seen other edits that have done so. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: I looked at Category:Indian city user templates which this person edited. And I saw that User:andrybak edited the category after, I have come to the conclussion that I was wrong. Sorry to have bothered you. Catfurball (talk) 16:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Towers completed in 2020

A tag has been placed on Category:Towers completed in 2020 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@Liz: I've put some stuff in. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:05, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Third Opinion?

Hi, if you have some minutes to spare could you please provide your opinion on this discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Samuel_of_Bulgaria#Old_Bulgarian_more_accurate_than_OCS

--StoyanStoyanov80 (talk) 03:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

October editathons from Women in Red

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Project tagging

Hi Ser, I'm just reiterating a request I had for you from a little over a year ago to tag untagged album and song articles with the appropriate project tag. You've done this a number of times before, and it has been greatly appreciated. I ask again now because a recent AWB run reduced the number of unassessed album articles by 5,000 in one day and brought it down to under 11,000. That's pretty exciting to me considering when I first started getting into assessing the articles manually some 8 years ago there were over 42,000, not to mention how many have been created/tagged since that time. Your runs always brought it back to a more realistic number of what's out there, although this time around there may not be as many because there have been some diligent day-to-day project taggers. Thanks again, and as I said last time, if it's something you can't get around to, no worries. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 22:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

@Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: I'll try to take a look in a couple of days, see what's necessary. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 23:07, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for doing lots of category sorting on pages I'd started! Very much appreciated! Lajmmoore (talk) 08:27, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Lajmmoore: Thanks very much - just the thing for a morning like today. :-) Always happy to be of help...and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:50, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	¡Eres mi ídolo! I found you on Reddit. I have never met a Wikipedia Editor. And here I am, making proofreading for Spanish Wikipedia thanks to your AMA Thanks for your contributions! Iris.hallinob (talk) 16:14, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Iris.hallinob: Thanks very much - that's very kind of you. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:19, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Clyde McCoy

I am completely unknowledgeable in regards to the use and operation of Wikipedia but I recently read through a wiki page about Clyde McCoy and I saw that the Decca and Columbia record companies are listed as the companies he recorded for.

I do not know how it ties into things but I can tell you that I am the happy owner of a very old box set of Clyde McCoys sugar blues recordings and all over the packaging and the records themselves is the capital records label.

There is no year written in for the copY write. All there seems to be is “CCN 311” written on the spine of the package. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.69.194.33 (talk) 07:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

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Thomas Joseph King wikipedia article

I recently edited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Joseph_King . Before the edit I clicked on the website http: //daggy.name.cop/bkofdead/obits-ki.htm which is associated with

Sources

• [... Caskets On Parade]

Shortly after clicking on the website, I received a phishing message. The daggy.name.cop seems to be spam or worse. Suslindisambiguator (talk)

@Suslindisambiguator: Hrmm...thanks. I'll take a look and remove it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Suslindisambiguator: Further hrmm...seems to come up a couple of places, based on the search I just ran. I'm out the door in a minute, but I'll try and run a little cleanup after dinner tonight. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:24, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

@Suslindisambiguator: Found it on two other pages, and removed/replaced it on both. I think that takes care of it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

David Ray Griffin

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:David Ray Griffin § Description and interests. Thank you. Roy McCoy (talk) 03:36, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Arkansas Baptist College

Is there a reason we don't have a category for alumni of this HBCU? Maybe its just that I cannot figure out how to search for it? SusunW (talk) 15:36, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@SusunW: Not sure why. I've noticed, though, that it's often those smaller schools for which we don't have such categories. Probably because there weren't that many alumni with articles when the category tree was set up. I'll whip one up in a sec and let you know when it's done. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Gracias, mi amigo. SusunW (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@SusunW: Done. BTW, expect an email from me shortly - I was just thinking there's something I wanted to ask you about. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:45, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Okee dokey and thank you very much! SusunW (talk) 15:47, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@SusunW: Anything for you. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:50, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Operation: Paperclip

I have likely gone through the incorrect channel to request this, for which I apologize. I was reading the article on Operation: Paperclip (curiosity sparked by the TV show Hunters on Amazon, which was fantastic except for the awful last episode) and noticed there was not much info on how this top secret operation was uncovered. Is it possible to request that additional information be added to the Wikipedia article? Thanks for any assistance you can offer.

- A Fellow Virginian (Prime, not West) 74.110.201.203 (talk) 17:41, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

@74.110.201.203: Quite alright, no need to apologize. Unfortunately, I'm not the best person to ask: I'm not a military historian, so I wouldn't know where to begin to look. Your best bet would be to post something at Talk:Operation Paperclip. Or research and add some information yourself. :-)

PS: Prime's the best, of course. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:50, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

pspspspsps

Much love and thank you so much for contributing so much to this community!

GuruPrasaathM (talk) 03:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@GuruPrasaathM: You're very kind - thanks very much, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:10, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for being the most active editor on English Wikipedia. Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 19:45, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@El Rolo Ueeqee: Thanks very much - just in time for after-lunch dessert, too. :-) Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Category:Haaslava Parish has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Konguta Parish has been nominated for deletion

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Category:Mäksa Parish has been nominated for deletion

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The Met

Presume you're up to speed with this. Nixon in China. Satyagraha. No $$$. https://www.playbill.com/article/the-met-explores-politics-in-opera-in-week-33-of-its-nightly-streaming-series?fbclid=IwAR3DoSoxLAkPNzH_hmvHZv2HxZWTn3tnwdMod0eX-FwCNOIua_SIfnpQlT4 --Tagishsimon (talk) 16:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon: Thanks for the heads-up - especially about Nixon, which I do love, but which I had to miss when it was in theaters (I seem to recall having a rehearsal that day.) It has its flaws, but it's a fascinating work.

Have you been partaking in the Met's streaming performances at all? My folks were watching Don Carlo last night; I was in and out, as I had some other things to take care of. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm listening to Don Carlo as I write; first time I've listened to a Met stream. I've seen both Nixon & Satyagraha a couple of times each in London, back when we could do that sort of thing. Nixon was the first opera I ever got my head around. Good place to start. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:05, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

You've picked a good one to start with. :-) The cast is a bit uneven, but I've always been fond of Troyanos and her take on Eboli. Not the best-sung, perhaps, but the best-conceived understanding of the character I think I've ever seen.

Nixon is a different beast altogether. I'll be honest - I used to laugh at the concept of the piece until I actually listened to it. And I was hooked. It has bits I don't love, but overall it's a marvelous work. We were supposed to get it here in Washington sometime this fall, but of course that's been postponed to God-knows-when. Alas. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:17, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

English page of Composer Carlo Forlivesi

Hallo Ser Amantio, you are a contributor to Carlo Forlivesi`s EN Wikipage. I have found a much longer profile of him (and more updated, even better than Forlivesi`s official webpage) https://www.hmdk-stuttgart.de/unsere-hochschule/personenverzeichnis/?no_cache=1&tx_wtdirectory_pi1%5Bshow%5D=1514 You may want to use these information to improve the page. There are also other wiki-pages in Italian and Arabian, which point the English version, I guess. All best Donspadoni (talk) 17:41, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

@Donspadoni: Thanks very much for the tip. I'll take a look - but you're welcome to expand the article yourself, also. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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COI editor requests review of draft for notability

Hello User:Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao. My name is Dan Cook. I do paid editing on behalf of clients, mostly article cleanup, always using the Simple COI request template. My editing partner and I avoid new articles for any number of reasons. But I recently got a request for help with a new article from a British entertainer, Sheridan “Shed” Simove. He had a Wikipedia entry that was posted in 2011 but was deleted this past June.

The story behind the deletion is convoluted, as you can imagine. But after talking to him, I think what happened was he went in to the article to add in new information without disclosing his COI. (I’m pretty sure he did not understand the rules around such editing.) Another editor saw his work, decided he was not notable, and deleted it.

I reviewed his coverage and I do believe his is sufficiently notable to merit a rather short article. I have written and formatted it, along with an assessment of the media coverage as per Wikipedia media credibility and the 65% guidelines. He’s got a fair amount of high level coverage (BBC, Reuters, Guardian, ABC News). Would you be willing to review my draft?

If so, please let me know whether you want me to put it in draft space, post it on your talk page, my talk page, my sandbox, etc. He would really appreciate knowing whether or not you think he can be restored to Wikipedia. I can share his previous article if you like.

I am reaching out specifically to you because of your expertise on biographies of living persons. DanDavidCook (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

@DanDavidCook: I'm sorry, but I'm not very much up to speed on BLPs of current entertainers - I think you would be better served asking someone else with more knowledge of the field. (Not sure under which rubric he would fall, exactly...perhaps someone on this list can help.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:24, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank so much I will check out that list. Appreciate your quick response. DanDavidCook (talk) 19:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

@DanDavidCook: Any time. Good luck, and sorry I can't be of more help. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Cool stuff

What about Ukraine?🤔 Remonolith (talk) 22:05, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

@Remonolith: What about it? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:12, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

male suicides

Hello! Could you please let me know why you are removing articles of men who died by suicide from the male suicide category (such as at Richard Brautigan)? Your edit comments do not explain why you are doing this. Thanks! Doctormatt (talk) 00:38, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Doctormatt: They are all in the subcategory Category:American male writers who committed suicide. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:26, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! Cheers! Doctormatt (talk) 05:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

@Doctormatt: Any time. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 05:52, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Ram Bow Bluff for deletion

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ram Bow Bluff until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Thanks for what you do

Hello there, I'm usually quiet, keeping to my little corner of the wikiverse... but I wanted to let you know that I have seen your edits, multiple times, when I expand or add references to articles about journalists. Just wanted to let you know that your work is appreciated :-) I took a look-see at your user page, I'm amazed at how much you've accomplished. Amazing! -Best Mollifiednow (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mollifiednow: Thanks very much for the kind words - they're much appreciated. :-) Always happy to do a little bit of tinkering here and there as necessary. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:01, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Feel free to tinker with my edits, anytime. I don't mind being "mentored," it helps with the learning curve. ;-) Best, Mollifiednow (talk) 19:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mollifiednow: Ah, the learning curve...it's gotten steeper since I started here, lo these many years ago. Feel free to give me a shout if you have any questions. Can't promise I'll have the answers, but I can try... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:20, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Thans! Will do :-) Mollifiednow (talk) 21:20, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Richard Withers

Hi there, can you please explain this edit on Richard Withers? None of the categories inherit from Category:American Roman Catholics. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:59, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Guerillero: He's categorized under Category:Catholics in Pennsylvania (and Category:Catholics in California, incidentally), which is under Category:American Roman Catholics by state, which is under Category:American Roman Catholics. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:40, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Thank you! --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 03:41, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Guerillero: Any time. I should note, in the interests of completeness, that I meant Category:Catholics from Pennsylvania and Category:Catholics from California above. But the point still stands. :-)

Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 07:03, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Help with a matter of music

Hello sir, I once saw you sing on some news report and know a talented tenor when I hear one. Flattery aside, I was hoping you could help me check both the categorization and non-free image rational (I don’t normally use those) on an article I recently created: Michael J. Budds. Only if you have the time of course. Either way, thanks for what you do. Grey Wanderer (talk) 03:31, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Grey Wanderer: Blandishments, blandishments... :-)

Thanks for the kind words. A cursory glance suggests everything's in good shape - I'll give it a deeper look in the morning. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 07:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Grey Wanderer: OK, I took a look. Added a few categories - nothing major. I'm afraid I'm no help with the non-free image rationale, though, as I'm at sea with those - I don't think I've used one myself in close on a decade, and I seem to recall that any I did use were shot down pretty quickly.

One thing - I noticed that several points in the article appear to be sourced to the same AP piece, judging by the headline, that was published in different papers. That might be worth cleaning up a bit. That's the only thing that jumped out at me - it looks good, otherwise.

Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:25, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Looks great. I do need to clean up the sources, kinda rushed publication because of his unexpected death. I appreciate the exhaustive categorization. Grey Wanderer (talk) 19:25, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

@Grey Wanderer: Any time. I know I tend to be a bit liberal with categories sometimes - feel free to remove any you feel don't fit. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 23:08, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Kindly Requesting my User Edit Cross checking/ reviewed before moving it to Wiki

kindly help look at the just recreated and properly put together an article in my User edits on Limoblaze before I move it to become a valid article on Wikipedia. I would like you to help check that the article follows the proper guideline for creating a Wikipedia page. I have double-checked for copyright and all other guidelines and I love you help do a final check Thanks as I appreciate your prompt response and if there is anything left to add kindly recommend thanks MasterOliverTwist (talk) 00:51, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@MasterOliverTwist: Music isn't my area of interest, honestly - I would ask someone else to review the article. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao and Che dicono a Signa?: Thanks as I really do appreciate your prompt response and help to ask someone to help check out the article. Thanks once again in advance and best regards MasterOliverTwist (talk) 08:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Guillermo de Cun

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Play Buonanotte Bettina

Hi, dearest Ser Amantio di Nicolao, how are you?

Me and my family are well, but here in Lombardy are still in red zone cause the virus.

I've just openedt this wondeful play and I ask, please, 5 minutes of your time to read it and correct my mistakes. I'll be pleased to help you in Italian and Portuguese.

Thanks a lot and see you soon

Rei Momo (talk) 09:20, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

List of covid deaths

List of deaths due to COVID-19 has been proposed again for deletion. Your opinion on the matter could be useful --Pesqara (talk) 15:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits?

Re:this edit, which removed all the spaces before pipe characters – but only if they were in wikilinks, not in templates.

Why? I can see you were using a tool, but that in itself is not an explanation. If it is better, please explain why. If it is a personal foible, then please stop it. --Monxton (talk) 14:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Monxton: But that's not the only edit that I made. I added a category to the article. The spaces were removed by the tool as part of its automated fixes, but I added a category at the same time. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:36, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I know it was not the only change. That doesn't explain why you would want to make a set of changes which make no difference to the rendered article but make the editor view less readable. In what way is it better? It's a genuine question. --Monxton (talk) 22:01, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

@Monxton: It appears (and forgive me if I misunderstand) that we're talking a bit at cross-purposes here. AutoWikiBrowser is set up to allow certain formatting changes to be made, by default, when the tool is run - providing that another edit is also made. So the rule that you cite - "do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits" - holds if those are the only edits you're making. In other words, don't run AWB if the only thing you want to use it for is formatting cleanup. There's no rule against running those formatting changes as part of making another edit.

As to why those formatting changes are the ones that AWB makes, I don't know - you'd have to take that up with the folks that designed the tool. I like to have the default set to clean up formatting when I run AWB because I think the changes generally make for a more readable article, and because I think the cleanup they encourage is a net positive in the long run. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

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Use of Wikilinks tag with stubs

Hello, am again asking you to please be judicious in the use of the Underlinked tag in stub articles. For example, Benjamin Chaha, Dyan Mazurana, Jasna Gabrič, Malin Krastev and William Sefa. This simply creates more work for those of us trying to reduce the number of tagged articles. Thank you. Rogermx (talk) 15:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

I have my suspicions

I was doing research about the CIA recently and noticed that their main training campus is located very close to your alma mater, CWM. In addition, the CIA likes to recruit from local colleges and you claim to work for DHS. Seems like a great cover. I'm not crazy I promise lmao. Andrew nyr (talk, contribs) 15:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Andrew nyr: You're not crazy? Really? Because our records show...I've said too much. Dammit. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Aha! Gotcha! lol Andrew nyr (talk, contribs) 16:34, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Andrew nyr: I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about. The FBI, on the other hand... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:35, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Orphan article

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National Hand Touch Football League

Hand Football League was created by Daniel Hand Football program Demons24 (talk) 18:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Hand_Touch_Football_League national Hand football league Demons24 (talk) 18:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	For minor edits to Raz Segal. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 19:44, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@I dream of horses: Aw, shucks...'twarn't nothin'. Thanks for the hardware - happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:13, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

authority control

Well done, only a few to go.SovalValtos (talk) 07:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@SovalValtos: I was on a bit of a tear yesterday, wasn't I? Fortunately there aren't that many more left to do. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Authority Control query

Hi. Sorry if this is from the Dept Of Naive And Stupid Questions but what does it actually DO? I am intrigued but higgerant. I am sure that I could look it up somewhere but I hoped that asking a knowledgable and clearly committed person might be quicker and more accessible. If you could manage your answer being at the reading level of an ageing technical incompetent that would be even better ... sorry, and thanks! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:48, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: No need to apologize. Truth be told, it's abstruse enough that even I'm not sure what it's about sometimes, and I'm the one adding the damn thing to articles. :-)

Briefly: authority control is a way of standardizing the name and/or numeric identifier of a topic making it easier to research across various platforms. In other words, one title/name - whatever it may be - is established as the proper form. This is then used in various bibliographic locations covering the same topic, promoting easier cross-referencing. It's a cataloging technique, basically. The authority control article provides a good overview in its intro.

As for where it's used: for years I was used to seeing it mostly in biographical articles, especially regarding people from academic disciplines. (In other words, I'd see it on writers' articles, but not on politicians' or businesspeople's, that sort of thing.) It's slowly making its way into other arenas as well, though, which is why I periodically go through and add it to articles. I like the template because it lies dormant until someone adds the proper information to Wikidata, which sparks it to life.

Does any of this help, or have I made more of a hash out of it than usual? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much! That is extremely clear, and it will clearly be a joy to database managers and information scientists alike. I had somehow missed knowing about its existence when I was into things like that (it were all fields round here then etc etc) so this is most interesting and useful. And, yes, I shall go and read the article too!

Thanks and all good wishes DBaK (talk) 16:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: You're not alone in not knowing about it...I'm not quite sure when it was rolled out around here, but I didn't cotton on to it at first, either. And as mentioned, I had thought it was mainly for biographies...until I started seeing it show up elsewhere as well. So I've learned about it more as I've gone along.

Ah, yes - I remember those halcyon days of playing in the fields, too. With the occasional brush fire off in the distance, but still. How far we have come since. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thank you for all of your hard work around here. Much appreciated! Marquardtika (talk) 15:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Marquardtika: Thanks very much - you're very kind. And it's always nice to meet a fellow Texan 'round these parts...even if my own acquaintance with the state was interrupted before I turned two. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

how to handle these remaining river articles afd or other

Hi, I've been cleaning up the Guam articles you created in 2009 adding coordinates from GNIS and inline citation with the GNIS ID. These four did not cleanly match to GNIS. Togcha River has two possible IDs 1390123 and 1390124 which I assume just picking one and adding the second would solve that for coords. Guatali River, Ligum River and Tailafak River GNIS do not have a GNIS ID which given the little additional information might we AFD these three since the GNIS source doesn't appear to support these names and there isn't much else to the article? Guatali River I'm assuming is different than Big Guatali River which you also created and has a GNIS ID. Wolfgang8741 says: If not you, then who? (talk) 15:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Wolfgang8741: Go ahead and AfD if you can't find anything to support them. It's no skin off my nose - I was a lot greener in 2009, and can't remember what sources I was using. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Eva Natus-Šalamounová for deletion

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Confused about changes to the "Farms in Vermont" category

Hello! Recently you removed Shelburne Farms from the "Farms in Vermont" category using Cat-a-lot and I am wondering why? I live in Vermont and walk at Shelburne Farms every morning, watching the cows, sheep, goats, and other farm animals. It is very much an active farm and so it would seem to make sense to me to be on Category:Farms_in_Vermont. Now, I do see it on Category:Farms_on_the_National_Register_of_Historic_Places_in_Vermont - was that why it was removed from the parent category page? Just curious about the rationale. Thanks - Dyork (talk) 19:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dyork: It's in the subcategory Category:Farms on the National Register of Historic Places in Vermont, which is listed as non-diffusing. Hence the removal. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Ah, okay.. I was not aware of this distinction of categories. You indicate it is "listed as non-diffusing". Out of curiosity, where would I see that? I don't see any templates in the categories that say it is diffusing or non-diffusing? Thanks - Dyork (talk) 19:42, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dyork: Most categories are non-diffusing: those that are not (which have the requisite template/hatnote in them) can be found in Category:Category:Wikipedia non-diffusing subcategories. My phrasing was, perhaps, inapt - I should rather have said that "it's not listed as diffusing" instead. (There are a couple of National Register categories which are non-diffusing, hence my distinction.)

Ah, so categories are non-diffusing "by default", and so the Cat-a-lot script was just removing entries on the parent category that were already on the subcategory. Thank you for explaining. So if there was a desire to have the farms listed on the subcategory to also appear on the parent page, the appropriate template code would need to be added to either the parent or the subcategory. (I don't have any great desire to do this, just seeking to understand. Although in this case it is a bit strange because there are now only 4 farms in the parent category and 51 farms in the only subcategory. It's not 100% clear to me that the usage of the subcategory is really worth it.) - Dyork (talk) 20:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Incidentally, no need to ping me in your responses here - a ping alerts me that I've been mentioned on another page. Here I get notification automatically, as it's my talkpage. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Very true... but I guess I'm just living so much in the social media world these days where all our replies on pretty much any social network involve starting with "@ username". To start a reply without that seems just... weird. - Dyork (talk) 20:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dyork: Well, that's the byword of this year, isn't it? "Weird"...in so many ways... --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If you're going to mass-remove categories

I think it would be best to at least give a reason why, eg. "Redundant to other categories ... " Ribbet32 (talk) 02:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ribbet32: I've found using "in subcat" seems to work well enough, but I'll take your suggestion under advisement as well. Still trying to get used to the ability to add a message to cat-a-lot edits. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

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Congratulations!

Hey! Just saw your video on Facebook (not mentioning the channel’s name for privacy). Keep up the great work, man! Dial911 (talk) 17:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dial911: You're very kind - thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed. :-) Happy editing (and patrolling)! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

For carrying out the category moves for the Scots College (Sydney) - I was just coming back to this now to finish it up and was very grateful to see you had completed the move. I hope Cat-a-lot made it easy for you! SportingFlyer T·C 20:40, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

@SportingFlyer: It did. I highly recommend it if you ever need to do a lot of large-scale category work. Happy to be of help; happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:13, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

thanks for contributing a lot (and i mean it) to Wikipedia. I have been looking on Wikipedia for a couple weeks, and I’m astonished on how you have managed to do that many edits!

Literal OrderTalk Here!§ 01:36, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

@LiteralOrder: How have I managed to do that many edits? Well...I've had an account for almost fifteen years, and I have a lot of time on my hands. A lot of time. :-)

Thanks very much for the kind words - welcome aboard, and happy editing! I hope you enjoy it here as much as I have over the years. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:38, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Authority control

I looked at some of the pages to which you added the authority control template, and often, it did not change anything. Why not use a bot that could quickly check if there are any of the necessary statements on Wikidata? @Tom.Reding: You probably already have the necessary code, as Tom.Bot did add the template to some pages. You could make one of the planned "possible small-scale follow-ups" by extending the task to other articles. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:31, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: thanks, I'll take a look this week. Haven't scanned for this since it was first run.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:42, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: I don't know the first thing about coding bots. Else there are one or two that I could have come up with by now. As for the authority control template, I like the fact that it remains dormant on a page until Wikidata is populated. I find that something very helpful. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:47, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding:, if something like that is developed, I might as a question as a Luddite - is there some way that it could be used, like PetScan, to develop a list of articles to edit? So, say, find a list of articles for which authority control info exists on Wikidata and then generate that list in such a way that AWB can read it and use it to generate a list of editable articles? --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:47, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

That would probably involve a custom scan/query via AWB or Quarry, but would need some technical know-how.

By the way, when adding {{Authority control}} could you capitalize the "A" please? This tends to match the nearby {{DEFAULTSORT}} & {{Reflist}} templates.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  12:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding: As to the second point: sure, I can do that. I'll redo the template in AWB tonight.

As to the former point...if this is something that's ever developed for AWB, I may ask for some assistance in implementing it, when the time comes. My dirty little secret, which nobody seems to want to appreciate, is that I'm a Luddite of the first order. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

But is there any need in spending more time to do manual changes when a bot will do them anyway? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Has it been decided that a bot is going to do this? I don't see any plans for a bot beyond this discussion. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, this discussion suggests it is not hard to extend this task to other sets of articles, and it should be the same code all the time. So rather than generating noisy notifications for all the users who have the articles on their watchlists, a bot could quietly run in the background for a couple days and tag all the necessary articles. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: Are you willing to code a bot to do this and put it through the approval process? I don't know the first thing about coding - I cannot code a bot. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:11, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Although I have done some things with pywikibot already and could probably make something that would work, I think there is no reason to duplicate the work Tom.Reding has already done. His bot is already running with this task, and I don't think we need a second one. By the way, the bot runs on AWB, so you could do that too. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: It was not clear to me that there was a bot already running adding authority control templates.

@Tom.Reding: Given that: I have no problem deferring to your bot for authority control in future. I've been working on songs, and was planning on doing albums and record labels next, if that's any help. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

At least it should have been clear that the bot was already prepared for a run. Has there been any consensus that all works of music need the template? A new bot RFA might be needed. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: I don't know why it would have been clear; I don't follow the actions of other bots. As for consensus...I don't know that there has been any consensus on the use of authority control. I know that someone attempted to raise a discussion at the authority control talkpage a few months ago, regarding its parameters, but it went nowhere. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:41, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

I was referring to Tom.Reding's message above: "I'll take a look this week". Anyway, the template documentation says the template should be used on all biographies and has been saying that for a long time, so that can be considered consensus. Other articles should be discussed first, so I suggest waiting for consensus there. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:46, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@1234qwer1234qwer4: I feel like the scope of authority control has expanded so much since the template was developed that its role has likely changed considerably in the past few years. I'm in favor of attempting to restart the discussion in talkspace, frankly, as I think there is enough evidence of its use on non-biographical articles at this point that I think the issue wants revisiting. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:09, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

I joined the discussion, thanks. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 17:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Autograph

Is there any way I could get your autograph?Hydra24538 (talk) 04:42, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hydra24538: I suppose, if you really want one? I hardly think it's worth the trouble, to be perfectly honest. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao:I mean I'm willing to go through the trouble if you are. message me on my talk page to get contact info and make sure to create a burner email.Hydra24538 (talk) 05:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hydra24538: Really - I don't think I'm worth it. There are others here whose contributions are far greater and more worthwhile than mine. Thanks for the compliment, though. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao:While there are others you are the one and only Ser Amantio di Nicolao, man who has created around 6,000 articles on wikipedia and who currently holds the title of most edits. I am completely serious about this but if you decline the offer I will understandHydra24538 (talk) 07:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC) Also while there are other editors who have probably done as much if not more than you, you are the most famous of them so I want your autograph. Once Again I am completely serious about this but if you decline my request I will understand Hydra24538 (talk) 07:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hydra24538: Agree to disagree, then. I understand why people focus on me, and interview me, and I'm happy to acquiesce. But I don't think I'm any more special than any other editor here. We all have our niches, and I've been lucky enough to get a bit of recognition for mine. If I can use that to bring some good attention to the project, so be it. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit Counter

I think your edit counter may be broken because it just has text saying "Month-Graph:yes Namespacesum-Graph:yes Weekday-Graph:yes Hour-Graph:yes Usercontributions:yes"Hydra24538 (talk) 07:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

MHS disambiguation page

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao:If you have time could you help resolve the dipute I have with MrMarmite on the MHS disambiguation page. Just look at the edit history and you will see what I am talking aboutHydra24538 (talk) 17:53, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Harper, California

The article Harper, California has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

GNIS entry is sourced to USDA maps, but the standard USGS topos don't show the name, although a couple of buildings suggestive of a ranch are nearby. Newspapers.com doesn't turn up anything significant. No evidence that WP:GEOLAND is met. Yet another WP:GNIS-type problem article.

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Question re: using photos from the Smithsonian Collection

Hello Ser, happy holidays! It's Netherzone "calling" with a quick question. If I'm not mistaken, you have (or had) an affiliation with the Smithsonian? I've been improving the article on the deceased ceramic artist and curator of Puebloan pottery, Rick Dillingham. There are images of his work in the Smithsonian collection - see here. Would you happen to know if images in the SI collection are considered "free use" because it is a governmental collection? I am also asking because I intend to create a an article on Puebloan pottery in general. Thank you in advance and the best to you for everything you do here! Netherzone (talk) 14:15, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@Netherzone: Sorry - I've never been associated with the Smithsonian except as a visitor. :-)

That said, long years ago (not long after I started editing) I had some experience with Smithsonian imagery. The upshot: it lives in a bizarre middle ground between governmental and private, so works produced by its personnel do not fall under the "governmental" rubric. I uploaded a couple of images assuming they did, and those were deleted. Granted, this was over a decade ago, but I've steered clear of using Smithsonian images ever since.

That said: in February this year (you remember, right? Five years ago or so, give or take a decade) the Smithsonian announced that it was making a lot of its images/files available to the general public under open access policies: there's more information here. I don't know if many of those images have been uploaded to Commons, for one thing. And a cursory glance at the images on the SAAM website doesn't indicate that they're available under the license (I wonder if there's a copyright issue given their age...) So I might contact someone over at WP:GLAM to see what the status of the project is, or if they can help with getting the images.

So the answer is, predictably (as with many things in this town), clear as mud. Sorry I can't be of more assistance.

And thanks for the kind words. For my part, it's always a pleasure seeing your username attached to an article - you do excellent work in the realms of art to which I have scant connection, and I always enjoy reading the articles you've put together. Looking forward to reading both articles when they're live. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao, thank you for getting back to me so quickly, I really appreciate it, and also what you have written about Smithsonian collection images. I'm not sure why I thought you had an affiliation there. And thank you for the idea to reach out to GLAM, I will do that for sure. All the best, Netherzone (talk) 16:28, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@Netherzone: Happy to be of help. Good luck to you - I'm salivating at the thought of what we can begin to achieve with this Smithsonian Institution collaboration, and I can't wait to see where it goes. And happy editing, of course. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Peter_O'Brien_(filmmaker)

I'm not sure this person is notable. Please fix the issues or the page risks being deleted. Bearian (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Birnam Wood, Albemarle County, Virginia for deletion

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Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas Ser Amantio di Nicolao!!
	Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all you do--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ozzie10aaaa: Ah, "new year"...how blessed those words sound at the end of 2020. Thanks very much for your kind wishes - the same to you and yours. And happy editing into 2021 and beyond! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

A. K. Gopalan

Hi! I noticed that you removed the category 'Indian communists' fromn A. K. Gopalan. Why? Vikram Vincent 03:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: He's in the subcategories Category:Communist Party of India (Marxist) politicians from Kerala and Category:Communist Party of India politicians from Kerala: no need for him to be in the parent category as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao So while both the tags you mentioned are correct, AKG's work happens to precede the formation of the CPIM. He was with the undivided CPI along with role at the national level. From this perspective I think the 'Indian communists' category may be more appropriate than for communists post formation of CPIM. Vikram Vincent 04:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: I do take your point, even if I'm not quite sure I agree; regardless I have no problem with it if you wish to undo my edits. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao I came across a discussion elsewhere which said that if a sub-cat is more appropriate then that should be used instead of the overarching one. However, in this specific case along with communists pre-Indian independence, the Indian communist category might be more suited. If you have a specific concern not addressed please do share. Let me see if I can clarify. Vikram Vincent 04:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: It's just that, in this instance, he belonged to two parties titled "Communist Party". To me, that implies that he was a communist - I don't see the need for him to be in the parent category as well, even if his involvement in communist politics predates the formation of the parties. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: so who would fit into 'Indian communist' category or rather what definition does that category hold? Vikram Vincent 04:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: To me, people who would fit into that category are people who held and expressed communist beliefs but were never formally members of any political party. Otherwise, I would place them in one of the subcategories. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Ser Amantio di Nicolao how can you be a communist if you are not part of a commune? :-) I don't think simply espousing a belief in isolation makes one a communist by the very definition of the term Vikram Vincent 04:52, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: I would suspect the likeliest people for such a category would be journalists with communist newspapers, writers who wrote communist works, people of that sort. That said, mostly I would expect it to be a container category. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: The 37 or so people currently in the category are correct. Removing them along with AKG won't be correct I feel as 'Indian communists' would be most accurate rather than the subcategories. Also, I don't think there are enough of the independents whom you mentioned. While container is apt, my suggestion is to also allow it to hold pre-independence figures like the current 37 or so, which can expand a bit more. Thanks. Vikram Vincent 05:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: Well, as I say. If you wish to undo my edit, I don't mind - I don't agree, but I'll not fight it. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! What I will do is also try to draft a rationale based on our discussion to define the category. Vikram Vincent 06:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: I might suggest making it about communists in general, rather than Indian communists specifically - I have a feeling this is a discussion that is likely to come up in multiple contexts. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: where do I post it? Vikram Vincent 09:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vincentvikram: I'd put it in draft space until getting other editors to comment on it. Ultimately, though, I would aim to make it a category hatnote, as that's where people will see it most easily. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bell Haven, Virginia

The article Bell Haven, Virginia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

It's the smallest neighborhood in Albermarle County [7], with a whopping 8 homes as of 1989. Neighborhoods don't meet WP:GEOLAND, and this one doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG either.

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Notifications for VA place PRODs and AFDs

There's gonna be a bunch coming. Do you want to get notified for all of these, or do you no longer have any interest in these one-liners? Hog Farm _Bacon 05:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: Up to you. I won't contest any of the deletions, as I understand the issues with GNIS a lot more than I did in 2010/11 when I created these. (Although I must confess a little sorrow at losing the various Birnam Woods, if for no other reason than they are evidence of a sense of humor among developers which I find surprising, to say the least.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try to refrain when I remember on the clearer-cur ones, but I'll probably ping you if there's any I have questions about. I don't want this page to start to look like User talk:Carlossuarez46 . Hog Farm _Bacon 06:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: No trouble at all - I trust your judgment. :-) (Besides which, I'll be archiving this in two weeks, anyway - one of my twice-yearly purges into the archive.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:35, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a bit strange of a feeling to be nominating articles by the most prolific editor for deletion when you're a nonadmin nobody outside of MILHIST has probably ever heard of. Hog Farm _Bacon 07:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hog Farm: Hey, I've made my share of howlers over the years. More, probably, because I've been here longer than many and done more. I look back on some of the edits I made in the first four or five years and want to blush. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 07:06, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Fieldbrook, Virginia

The article Fieldbrook, Virginia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Subdivision, [8], fails WP:GEOLAND. Newspapers.com hits are all real estate listing, WP:GNG doesn't seem to be met.

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Proposed deletion of Running Deer, Virginia

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Subdivision of Charlottesville, [9] fails WP:GEOLAND. Stuff like this is why mass-creation of stubs is a bad idea.

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Nomination of Birnam Wood, Pittsylvania County, Virginia for deletion

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Hog Farm _Bacon 05:57, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ashmere, Virginia

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Apparently part of a subdivision in Charlottesville, [10], fails WP:GEOLAND.

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Proposed deletion of Branchland, Virginia

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Retirement community, [11], fails WP:GEOLAND.

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Proposed deletion of Brinnington, Virginia

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Subdivision, [12], fails WP:GEOLAND.

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Nomination of Bungletown, Virginia for deletion

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Hog Farm _Bacon 06:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The ones above are me forgetting to uncheck the notification box, but I truly have no idea as to what was ever supposedly at Bungletown. Hog Farm _Bacon 06:11, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Camelot, Albemarle County, Virginia

The article Camelot, Albemarle County, Virginia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Subdivision, see [13]. Fails WP:GEOLAND. While there is a touch of coverage about an unfortunate incident involving the Camelot Wastewater Treatment Plant, WP:GNG does not seem to be met, either.

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Richard Rosenbaum underlinked tag

I'm relatively new to Wikipedia so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Richard Rosenbaum rather short to be adding any more wikilinks? There is literally only one sentence in the lead that already contains a wikilink. Would it be okay if I removed that tag? Wikignometry (talk) 19:56, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@Wikignometry: Personally I'd prefer to see the article expanded and integrated a bit, but there's nothing in Wiki-etiquette that says the hatnote can't be removed. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas Ser Amantio di Nicolao
	Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year, Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia,    –Davey2010Talk 20:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Thank you kindly - my best wishes to you and yours this season as well, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cedarmere, Virginia

The article Cedarmere, Virginia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

GNIS entry is sourced to a soils map, which is a bad sign. Topos just show an intersection where a long farm lane meets the road, newspapers.com hits are all for a Cedarmere Farm with an address in Free Union. Evidently just a named farm, WP:GEOLAND is not met.

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A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	OMG 3 million edits? That is the most made by a user! I hereby award you the Editing Barnstar. Vamsi20 (talk) 03:24, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vamsi20: You're very kind - thanks very much. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:25, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Wall of Honor

I have inducted you into the "Wall of Honor". You deserve this because of your hard work in Wikipedia. We need more people like you in this project. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:35, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Wall of Honor

User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao
2020

@Marine 69-71: This is an incredible honor, coming as it does from an editor whose work I have long admired and respected. Thank you very much - you are very kind, and I shall strive to be worthy of it always.

Best of the season to you, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Luminarias	Happy Holidays!
	Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, May your holidays be merry and bright, and hope you have a happy and healthy 2021 Netherzone (talk) 14:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Netherzone: Thanks very much - you as well! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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@Wikaviani: Thanks very much - to you as well! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Antonio del Massaro

Hi Amantio, are you the author of the article about Antonio del Massaro? if so, could you please send me the source for the statement that one of his works has been with the KAiser Friedrich Museum in Berlin until 1945! thank you ! C — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stagama (talk • contribs) 18:19, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

@Stagama: I've worked on the article some, but I'm not its creator, and don't know offhand a source for the statement which you cite, sorry. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas Ser Amantio di Nicolao!!
	Hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all you do--Tony the Marine (talk) 04:35, 25 December 2020 (UTC)(UTC)

@Marine 69-71: Thank you very much - best wishes and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 01:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Country Green, Virginia

The article Country Green, Virginia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Appears to be a neighborhood of Charlottesville, which is what the newspapers.com results refer to it as. No indication that WP:GEOLAND is met.

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Yo Ho Ho

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Happy New Year!

Walter Elmer Schofield, Across the River (1904), Carnegie Museum of Art.		Best wishes for a safe, healthy and prosperous 2021.
		Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:10, 26 December 2020 (UTC) Oneupsmanship: This painting turned the friendly rivalry between Edward Redfield and Elmer Schofield into a feud. Schofield was a frequent houseguest at Redfield's farm, upstream from New Hope, Pennsylvania, and the two would go out painting together, competing to capture the better view. Redfield served on the jury for the 1904 Annual Exhibition of the Carnegie Institute; at which, despite Redfield's opposition, Across the River was awarded the Gold Medal and $1,500 prize. It was not until a 1963 interview that the 93-year-old Redfield revealed the painting as the cause of the 40-year feud between them. Schofield may have painted it in England, but a blindsided Redfield knew that this was a view of the Delaware River, from his own front yard!

@BoringHistoryGuy: Thanks very much - and excellent choice of image. (I shall need to dig around in my grab bag and see what I can come up with...I'm already thinking Twachtman.) Happy new year to you, too - may it be easier and better for all of us. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Amen, on next year being easier! The story of the feud was too good not to retell. Interesting that Schofield was the better known artist prior to WW1, but now is mostly forgotten.

There's a lovely Twachtman (have to be careful about spelling or pronouncing that name!) at the Pennsylvania Academy. A lone sailboat sailing off into the mist. Possibly an elegy to his teenage daughter. Best, BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:22, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@BoringHistoryGuy: There's an extraordinary Twatchman in the American Art Museum - a snowscape that's almost abstract in its intensity. One of the most marvelous of the American Impressionist works I've ever seen. Talking of which - Schofield's colors remind me of Weir's. Not that that's a bad thing - I love Weir. Redfield and Schofield I fear I don't know nearly as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Montmartre (ca.1896)

Redfield became the grand old man of the New Hope School, living into the 1960s. I find his stuff tasteful, but dull, although it brings good prices. After this 1904 incident with Redfield, Schofield abandoned New Hope and painted the Wissahickon Creek (Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia) and New England. I didn't know any of his works until Montmartre came up for sale a couple years ago. The vibrancy of the brushwork was dazzling. Not what you'd expect from a cityscape. If only I'd had a spare $160,000. It was bought for the Woodmere Art Museum (which overlooks the Wissahickon). BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:52, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@BoringHistoryGuy: I never had the chance to study Pennsylvania artists much - one of these days (living as I do a couple of hours down the highway from Philly, I really have no excuse) I should go and check out some of the eastern Pennsylvania museum collections and learn myself some stuff.

That being said, I've had the chance this year to tuck into a couple of DC-area artists: Richard Norris Brooke (who's buried out in Warrenton - I drove out in June to get myself out of the house and to have a look at his grave in the family plot); Pietro Bonanni; and James Alexander Simpson (surprisingly thin on the ground - I'd hoped there'd be more about him). Look at the number of redlinks in Brooke's article - that should tell you all you need to know about the state of historians' investigations into DC's historical art scene.

I also, around Labor Day, drove up to Hagerstown to visit the Washington County Museum of Fine Arts (and to have a McDonald's cheeseburger indoors, something I've been unable to do in Fairfax County for months now.) Charming place - I wouldn't mind going back sometime. They were having a little exhibit of art by women artists to celebrate the centenary of the 19th Amendment, and there were a number of people there whose work I'd never encountered. Pity there isn't a catalog of the show to be had. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:24, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I have a sister who lives in Oakton, although I haven't been down there since Thanksgiving 2019! Birge Harrison (painter & teacher at Woodstock & Art Students' League) wrote that the Redfield-Schofield feud was wonderful for Art. Each man trying to outdo the other made the NAD spring exhibitions exhilarating, but standing before their paintings made you love both of them.

I don't know any of the D.C. painters. I guess I should get out to more than the Smithsonian museums. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:45, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

My mistake, the quote was from Emile Gruppe: "I can still remember the great National Academy shows. Three painters dominated the walls: Edward Redfield, Daniel Garber and Elmer Schofield. They all worked boldly and with wonderful color – and you never critically compared them, for you loved each one when you stood in front of his canvas." BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Question: Do you want me to continue with the Selected works list at Richard Norris Brooke, or leave them just in the text, or in both? BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:36, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@BoringHistoryGuy: Whichever you prefer - I trust your experience and judgement. :-)

Talking of Oakton - there's actually a painter buried there; Johannes Adam Simon Oertel is in Flint Hill Cemetery. (Took me almost an hour to find his grave, and it's not a large cemetery.) Apparently he was a big noise throughout the South after the Civil War, but his paintings are...less than stellar, let's say. Still and all, at least he's there.

The one museum that used to have a decent collection of DC-related art was the Corcoran, but that institution has sadly gone the way of the dodo. Most of the stuff of local significance appears to have gone to the American University Museum - the last time I was there (sometime in January or February, as I recall) one of the graduate assistants told me that they were going to devote a full-time gallery to rotating exhibits from the Corcoran collection. I've seen the list of pieces they accessioned, and a fair number of them are by artists with local ties. They also have a small library of catalogs of works by DC-related artists. Let me know if you come down this way once the pandemic has run its course - their parking garage is free, as is museum admission. It's a bit of a hike up there for me, but worth it to check in on the local scene.

Incidentally, there are two books I might recommend if you're interested in the history of DC art and artists. One is The Capital Image: Painters in Washington, 1800–1915; it's the catalog of a show the American Art Museum put on in 1983 (I've cited it in multiple articles over the years). It's the only comprehensive history of the local art scene I've ever read, but it's quite extensive, and fills in a lot of the gaps that otherwise exist. The other book is more problematic: Virgil McMahan's The Artists of Washington, D.C., 1796-1996. It's a self-publication, and is sadly error-riddled; I've learned to double-check most of what he writes before accepting his work as a source. It was planned to be the first of several volumes, but he was dying of cancer when it was printed; the one print run came out a week before his death. All of that said, it's still the most comprehensive resource I've found for the work of local-to-DC artists, and it's a great starting point for further research; I've used it many times over the years. Both are available via Amazon (though be warned - there are two editions of the McMahan available, so make sure you get the correct one - the other is little more than a typewritten pamphlet.)

Speaking of errata, you mention Daniel Garber, whose work I do know; I'm pretty sure that my book on the National Academy of Design contains an error or two related to him (including misnaming him as "David" at one point, if I remember correctly). Him I know - NAD has a very fine self-portrait, if I remember correctly. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I know where the cemetery is. Not that secluded with Rte 123 zipping past. Garber taught at the PAFA school for decades, commuting from New Hope by train. Some of his compositions are formulaic, but the painting is gorgeous. The Capital Image sounds like a perfect birthday gift for my sister. I finked out and gave her a Barnes & Noble gift card for Xmas.

I'll go ahead tentatively with the list. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:38, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@BoringHistoryGuy: I had a hell of a time finding the cemetery, as I recall - it's not well-signed, and the adjacent church bears a different name. Also a hell of a time finding the grave, but that was my own fault - I seem to remember passing it by three or four times before seeing it staring me right in my face.

The Capital Image is really quite a fine book - it contains some interesting tidbits about DC's demographics as well (including a fair amount about immigration patterns during the nineteenth century). I don't know much about Andrew Cosentino, but he's done an excellent job with the text; cursory searching indicates that he spent much of his career at the Library of Congress. The other contributor, Henry Haywood Glassie, is even more obscure, but appears to have been a lawyer.

Incidentally, I'm sure you know Amphora Diner in Vienna? If not, I highly recommend it - it's a 24-hour diner with a severely extensive menu. A friend and I often end up there after performances at GMU.

By the way, if you're interested at all, a list of the Corcoran pieces that went to American University can be found here. Other lists, for other museums, are here. I wish they were more searchable, but they serve their purposes well enough. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I love your work man! You're a real MVP! SkiSneath (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@SkiSneath: Thanks very much - you're very kind. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Help! (how many times have you seen this word)

Hi Steven,

This is a long shot but I could use help getting my old band on Wikipedia. Here's a link to what I've started but hit a wall right out of the gate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Stalker_(band)

Here are some other links that confirm our existence

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGxOfEvQC75I8Ig3VjxLyHA https://www.discogs.com/artist/4885194-Stalker-Nj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stalker_-_Trip.ogg https://heavyharmonies.com/cgi-bin/glamcd.cgi?BandNum=8357&CDName=Peyote+Picnic https://www.facebook.com/rockoftheages.ny.nj.pa/posts/979109155824982

Any help would be great.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodTimeGypsy (talk • contribs) 14:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC) 

@GoodTimeGypsy: I'm sorry, but I'm not really a good person to ask about writing about bands: most of my editing in the field of music is on classical subjects. I'm no good when it comes to other genres. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:50, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

- @Ser Amantio di Nicolao - Ok, Thank you. Could you refer me to someone that can assist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodTimeGypsy (talk • contribs) 15:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@GoodTimeGypsy: Have a look around Wikipedia:WikiProject Rock music - the editors there would have more expertise than I have on something like this. Good luck! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao Thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoodTimeGypsy (talk • contribs) 15:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@GoodTimeGypsy: Any time. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:02, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thank you dude! TheFirstVicar4 (talk) 01:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

@TheFirstVicar4: Thanks very much - you're too kind, and I much too undeserving. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:16, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Changes to your page

I randomly came across your user page and very nice and awesome experiences both here and in real life from what I can see. I noticed another user changed your table size on your page [[14]]. I know this is typically frowned upon but I wanted to bring it to your attention. Kudos 2600:387:C:6D14:0:0:0:C (talk) 06:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Edwin Foresman Schoch

Season Greetings from Italy, Ser Amantio!

(off topic: my brother is the Senior Archivist at the Teatro Carlo Felice ... and I understood immediately to which character your name refers to!)

I take the liberty to contact You, an highly qualified Wikipedian, to draw Your attention to an article draft that I (an Italian 61 years old and a total newbie in Wikipedia) have recently submitted.

Even though I could have published the article by myself, I preferred to submit it to the «Article for Creation» process, and in fact previous reviewers gave me the opportunity to improve the draft further.

In a couple of weeks another honor - the New York State Conspicuous Service Cross - will be bestowed upon Edwin Foresman Schoch, a well-noted test pilot dead in 1951 on his 35th birthday while investigating metal fatigue issues affecting the McDonnell F2H-3 Banshee.

About the relevance of Ed Schoch, it suffice to Google for:

• https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Ed+Schoch%22+%22Test+Pilot%22 (433 results)

• https://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Edwin+Schoch%22+%22Test+Pilot%22 (185 results)

About my draft, it was thoroughly researched, with 28 selected references cited. I'm in contact with Ed Schoch's son and I had access both to unpublished and published information - that I duly and extensively cited.

After being initially declined, my draft was extensively reworked. I wonder whether You are in the position to approve it for publication, and whether you deem that it may be published.

Here is the link: Draft:Edwin Foresman Schoch

I am submitting this very same request to a few selected Wikipedians in the hope to get the article published before mid-January, when Governor Cuomo is expected to sign the bestowal act of the Conspicuous Service Cross to Ed Schoch.

Many thanks for Your attention, all the best and an happy 2021!

Cesare Brizio

CesareBrizio (talk) 10:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

@CesareBrizio: Good morning. I'm afraid I'm not the best person to contact regarding this article, as I'm not terribly well-versed in the niceties of military history. Have you contacted the article reviewer, DGG, for suggestions? Also, I might ask over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history if anyone has any advice. Good luck! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Good afternoon. Thank you very much for your quick answer. Yes, I exchanged opinions with DGG, who did a great job but came to a conclusion that I respectfully disagree with, considering that Edwin Foresman Schoch meets the requirements for notability as demonstrated by several similar articles about test pilots, including subjects less notable than him, and considering the impending bestowal of a Conspicuous Service Cross on Ed Schoch. Thank you, I hope to meet some reviewer that shares my point of view and thinks that the article definitely deserves being published. All the best and happy new year! CesareBrizio (talk) 17:59, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

• • CesareBrizio As is my usual practice, having declined it twice, I will let someone else review it after that.

But I do not see how a state award adds anything to notability , especially since this particular award is given to NYState residents who have won any one of a number of US military awards ranging from the Medal of Honor down to the Purple Heart. Checking about 50 bios from the test pilot category, I did manage to find 1 with what seemed to be lesser justification. I'm not surprised: there are many hundred thousand articles in WP accepted in earlier years when the standards were lower that we need to either upgrade or remove. The least we can do is not add to them. I consider your request to have it approved by a particular date to match an announcement of this non-notable award is non-encyclopedic promotionalism--unless you think that the announcement is so spectacular that the general public will want to find out more from WP. It's not right for you to try to select a reviewer that "shares your POV" -- this is in direct opposition to WP's basic principle of WP:NPOV & see WP:CANVASS. (And I remind you that we do not use content based on unpublished family testimony.) DGG ( talk ) 20:23, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

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@CAPTAIN RAJU: Thanks very much. I'll be glad to see the back of this year, I tell you what. Happy new year to you and yours, too, and happy editing into 2021 and beyond! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

English dramatists and playwrights

hi Ser Amantio di Nicolao, i'm curious why you removed Shelagh Delaney and James Saunders from 'Category:English dramatists and playwrights', as both of them are highly regarded influential English playwrights of the second half of the C20th - Oniscoid 07:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

@Oniscoid: I created the category Category:20th-century English dramatists and playwrights and put them there, as we have other English-playwright-by-century categories as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:24, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. - Oniscoid 11:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@Oniscoid: Any time. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 12:33, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

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@Treekangaroosandlions 2: Thanks very much - to you as well. Happy editing in 2021 and beyond! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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@Abishe: Thanks very much - here's hoping 2021 is better all around. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:08, 1 January 2021 (UTC)