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Redirect pingsEdit

Seems you have been pinging me about Redirects for which I am not at all involved - it's *entirely* ok with me to stop the pingings - thank you - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 08:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Cricketer redirectsEdit

Thank you for delving into all of these - I appreciate the work it involves. Redirects to the lists where they exist are entirely appropriate in my book. Let me know if I can help in any way. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:52, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks for the heads-upEdit

on the redirection discussion. Very kind! Thmazing (talk) 02:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit requestsEdit

If you're answering edit requests, please remember to changed the |answered=no parameter in the template header to |answered=yes to signify that the request is closed. Thanks!  Ganbaruby! (Say hi!) 01:47, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Page name move requestEdit

I found your last edit in the discussion page of Kanglei mythology. But still now, none is replying to my request discussion for page name move. Why is it so? Haoreima (talk) 10:27, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

I can't say about other people, but I have not enough knowledge in the topic to participate in the discussion. Requested moves are open for at least a week anyway, so some interested users will probably find it soon. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

What will happen if none participate in the discussion, will the request be granted? I mean will the page name be moved? Haoreima (talk) 14:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

The discussion might be relisted for another week, but otherwise the default result would probably be moving the page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:56, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpEdit

Thanks for helping with my image copyright licenses. Also I'm glad you like the template. Cheers, Giraffer (talk·contribs) 16:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

G13 on User:Maziyar Kamkar/sandboxEdit

Hello 1234qwer1234qwer4 -- I've declined this because G13 is only applicable in userspace when the draft has been submitted to the WP:Articles for creation process. Generally, there's consensus that userspace material that isn't actively harmful should just be left alone. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 18:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict Maybe I should have U5ed. The user is a cross-wiki spammer, see CentralAuth. I think I found the page because they published some spam page on another wiki. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:41, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit critiqueEdit

Thanks for pointing out the ambiguous phrasing. Is this better? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ATwinkle&type=revision&diff=1010529272&oldid=1010486011 (Feel free to fix it further if you like.) DKEdwards (talk) 23:32, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

"revert it [the content]" still seems a bit weird. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:34, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm sorry I'm not grasping the confusion. Is it the word "content" that sounds wrong? Would it be better to say: "to improve the changes rather than revert them" DKEdwards (talk) 23:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
@DKEdwards: To be honest, I'm not sure I understand "should not be used to undo changes that are constructive and made in good faith unless a reasonable attempt is made to improve the content" either. You are not supposed to revert constructive edits unless they improve content? As far as my remark is concerned, "reverting content" sounds not quite correct, but "improve changes" in your suggestion does not either. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
ok, I think I see... The way the "unless" logic parsed was sort of an artifact of the original sentence that could be (mis)read to imply that an edit summary always justifies undoing constructive changes. So, instead of appending to the original phrasing I've just re-written my whole point now. I didn't originally intend to add so much, but since it's become more substantial I've added a note to the Talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Twinkle#Abuse_section) and invited others to improve it. DKEdwards (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
@DKEdwards Thanks, the new version looks good. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

User talk page redirectsEdit

I'm done with User:1234qwer1234qwer4/a subpage somewhere. Do you want me to delete it? -- Tavix (talk) 17:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@Tavix Thanks a lot; I had just checked yesterday and saw there were still quite a few pages left. I think keeping the subpage is fine, it is mentioned in discussions and does not seem to do any harm. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good! I got burned out on it much quicker than I thought I would, so tackled about a third of it each week. -- Tavix (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Help DeskEdit

I don't know what you were trying to do at WP:HD with all those edits dated 2014, but I've reverted them to avoid confusion. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:51, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@David Biddulph I just remembered about this. I had moved these from a redirect page, where they were erroneously placed instead of the actual help desk. I thought it was better if they were archived somewhere, but I guess deleting them was also fine. ~~~~
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Hello, 1234qwer1234qwer4,

I'm just curious, there must be millions of abandoned Wikipedia accounts and user pages, how are you finding ones from 5 or 10 years ago that have been vandalized? You can't just be stumbling upon them. Do you do searches for "bad words"? Liz Read! Talk! 02:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Liz I used a SQL query that would return all user talk page between 1 and 15 bytes that have only one revision and that revision was not by the talk page owner: quarry:query/53219. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 07:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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Draft DeletionEdit

The draft creator is not edited the page after July 2020. How can I delete the entire page? ProudMallu (📨📝) 12:37, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@ProudMallu You should have used WP:G13. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much!! ProudMallu (📨📝) 12:45, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


Wait, you created that redirect; and then immediately listed it at RfD thinking it was the wrong destination? Could you just have avoided the pointless bureaucracy (WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY) and instead just WP:FIXEDIT? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian The point was that Jsessionid already existed before and I created this one by analogy, realising just after that that the target was not optimal. Nominating both to RfD (no matter whether I retargeted my newly created one or not) would guarantee that they both targeted the same page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

ISO 11940Edit

The feature I corrected was the use of U+031B COMBINING HORN in the transliteration of three consonants. It's somewhat unusual, but it's what the standard says. (I bought a copy.) Given the history of formal transliteration of Thai, it's not entirely weird. In the RTGS, a couple of vowels were originally transliterated with that Vietnamese diacritic. RichardW57m (talk) 13:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@RichardW57m Thanks. I apologise for my confusion; understanding the context for a two-year old edit of yourself is not always easy. After reading parts of the article and looking at some of the sources, I realised I used a different version of the standard – I explained it on your talk page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
It's a shame Virginmedia took down its customers' home pages. I've updated the links in the talk page to the extract from the standard. RichardW57 (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
@Woodstone: any comments? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:05, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Justice S Rajeswaran PageEdit

Thanks for the valuable suggestions. Will note the same. there will be no mistakes. --A.R.V. Ravi (talk) 07:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Molecular formulaEdit

Hello. The moving of Template:R from molecular formula is closed - so I'm writing here.. It was a mistake. I always confuse empirical formula with molecular formula. And I looked it up (Molecular formula, but didn't read the full sentence "They are the same as empirical formulae [...]". Christian75 (talk) 00:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Incertae sedisEdit

Hi, I see that we both started making speedy nominations for the same tree. I will let you finish them.

The top Category:Incertae sedis may need a full nomination at the end, as C2C would go against C2D.

By the way, when you make multiple nominations for a full CFD, please remember to check the links from the category pages back to the discussion. When you nominated e.g. [1], you did not complete the extra parameter to link to the section heading. See {{Cfr}} for instructions. – Fayenatic London 13:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Fayenatic london Are there any more left though? I had looked through the tree and found the one I nominated to be the only one that did not have the banner. Yes, I did see the problem with the main category as well. Regarding the Cfr template, I think it would be nice if Twinkle automatically added anchors to nominations to facilitate merging them (as it already does with RfD), and I will propose this change at WT:TW. Until then, I will add anchors on the log pages manually. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes, there are some more arthropods and vertebrates to be nominated. – Fayenatic London 16:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
@Fayenatic london I started nominating them, but I realised there might be additional C2C issues. For example, Category:Reptilia incertae sedis is currently using "Reptilia" to have the complete name in Latin, but should probably be renamed to "Reptile enigmatic taxa" rather than "Reptilia enigmatic taxa". Similar considerations apply to already nominated categories. What do you think? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes, please use the common names. Which of the categories already nominated at WP:CFDS need retargeting, and to what?  Ascomycota to Ascomycete?? – I see that Category:Ascomycota consistently uses "Ascomycota". – Fayenatic London 13:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
@Fayenatic london Category:Placodermi incertae sedis vs Category:Placoderms, Category:Arthrodira incertae sedis vs Category:Arthrodires, some more in the ones not yet nominated. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Ah, perhaps you meant using singulars e.g. Fungi -> Fungus, Algae -> Alga. Should Category:Fungi taxonomy use "Fungus" rather than "Fungi"? – Fayenatic London 13:52, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
@Fayenatic london Possibly; we don't use "Animals taxonomy either" (though in your cases, the vernacular names seem to be fully identical to the systematic ones). 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Cheers. I changed the nomination from Fungi to Fungus, and nominated its parent & sibling too. "Algae", however, is used consistently. – Fayenatic London 19:59, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
@Fayenatic london I realise now that I forgot to fix my nomination, so we have Category:Placodermi enigmatic taxa and Category:Arthrodira enigmatic taxa instead of Category:Placoderm enigmatic taxa and Category:Arthrodire enigmatic taxa per their parent categories. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:52, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Hmm, well, I didn't know those words with either ending! I suggest you take them back to WP:CFDS, if you think that would be an improvement. It's not quite a case of C2E or obvious correction, which I would have implemented immediately. – Fayenatic London 21:10, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
I had mentioned them above in my message from 16:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC). These are not a C2E but C2C cases though, see above. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:13, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Category:Prehistoric animal genera enigmatic taxaEdit

Hi, I noticed some "incertae sedis" categories were recently renamed to use "enigmata taxa", and you've personally been at CfD/Speedy to rename some others to match. Unfortunately I think Category:Prehistoric animal genera enigmatic taxa in particular might need a second rename, since the structure of the name seems rather weird-looking (at least to me as a native English speaker): it's going adjective adjective noun adjective noun. Not sure if there's any other category names like this one, I haven't looked very thoroughly yet. Unfortunately I'm not sure what to suggest as a replacement name yet either. Monster Iestyn (talk) 20:22, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Monster Iestyn Thanks, I had noticed this and found it awkward as well but did not get to react. I think this was the only case with a problem like that though. Pinging @Fayenatic london, who nominated this specific category. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:51, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

weird revertEdit

Regarding [2]. No, not a bug. Quite deliberate. I have no idea why you would jump to the conclusion that it needed to be reverted, but you might try asking before reverting a legitimate talk page post next time. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:13, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

My bad. Forget it. I need coffee. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Your signatureEdit

Did you know… that your signature, using non-standard characters, appears as a line of 17 boxes on mobile devices? – Fayenatic London 20:48, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

"mobile devices" is definitely a sloppy generalisation (my phone displays them), and some PCs might lack necessary fonts as well, but I heard at least one other report like this. Is this bad? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
OK then… iOS devices! – Fayenatic London 20:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
I do have one. Though, I might have installed a font that displays my signature, as I used an app for installing fonts. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
It's not ideal, but it's pretty common on Twitter as well. If your sig can be read on all desktop computers and other mobile OSs, that's probably OK – given that when we edit the page, we can all see the Latin characters in your actual user name. IMHO it would be nice to choose characters that are universally legible… but don't lose sleep over it. – Fayenatic London 21:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
@Fayenatic london Aand fixed. :^) ~~~~
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14:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

"Саrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

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Maybe you could dump this draft as I won’t proceed with the article. Thanks SproulesLane (talk) 20:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Local 58Edit

Please do not edit war, I'm well aware of the policies you mentioned. Episode lists are accepted parts of TV articles as per WP:MOSTV and they do not have to be sourced to secondary sources. Agree that the descriptions need trimming but drive-by removal is not helpful, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@Atlantic306 Thanks. My edit was probably an overkill indeed. For now, I removed some excessive quoting and tagged the page with {{Long plot}} to have some other editors take a look. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
08:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for improving the article, I agree with the tag, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments at SPIEdit

Hi - just a quick note about the placement of comments at SPI. Sorry to be a pedant about this, but we're encouraged to enforce these rules strictly - they're not like normal threaded discussions. Only admins and SPI clerks handling the case are supposed to post in the bottom section; comments from other users go in the 'other users' section. If I was commenting to provide extra evidence, I'd post in the 'other users' section, but as the admin/clerk handling the case, my comments (including any responses to questions in the other section) go at the bottom. I recognise that you're a very experienced user, and I don't mean to imply any disrespect when I moved your comments, but unless you think I am mistaken in my understanding of how SPI pages should be maintained and archived, please don't move any of the comments again. Thanks GirthSummit (blether) 10:13, 3 June 2021 (UTC)