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November 2019, Volume 5, Issue 11, Numbers 107, 108, 140, 141, 142, 143

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Wikidatacon presentation: "Women Writers in Review"Edit

19 May 19, Boston, LD4 conference
19 Aug 19, Stockholm, Wikimania
19 Oct 19, Berlin, Wikidatacon
10 Nov 19, Boston, WikiConference North America

Some people might be interested in this. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:44, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Beautifully presented slides. "Trans-Atlantic writing" is a new concept for me. I have not been able to find any clear definition of what it means. I would have thought it covered writers who had crossed the Altlantic but those you mention appear to have remained in their own countries: Maria Edgeworth, Mary Robinson, Lucy Aikin, Anna Barbauld and Anne Bannerman in Great Britain; Hannah Adams in America. I have nevertheless come across a work titled Transatlantic Romanticism: An Anthology of British, American, and Canadian Literature. So perhaps it just means from English-speaking countries on either side of the Atlantic? On the other hand, Transatlantic Translations appears to refer to Latin-America. It becomes even more confusing if you search for "Transatlantic literature". See also Journal of Transatlantic Studies. Maybe someone should write an article on Transatlantic writing.--Ipigott (talk) 12:03, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing it, ipigott. Trans-Atlantic refers to Europe (mostly UK but there are a few French women) and US/Canada; and excludes Australia/NZ. Sorry for brevity; I'm on a mobile phone. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:24, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
It looks as if you are making the same presentation at the WikiConference in Boston on Sunday. Hope it goes well.--Ipigott (talk) 15:09, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Ipigott. Actually, WikiConference North America will be my 4th presentation on "Women Writers in Review", with each new presentation being an update on progress. In case these are of interest, I've added links to all the slidedecks. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:54, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
I see quite a few of the presentations in Boston are highlighted "Bias". Make sure the gender bias is fully appreciated by the North American contributors. English speakers are not doing too well but the French Canadians and Mexicans should be given credit for their language versions. See the WiR talk page.--Ipigott (talk) 17:35, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


kia ora Rosie

Have finally fixed the Hens' Teeth lede as prompted. Sorry it took so long. Also revised structure of page to be more in line, I hope, with preferred Wikipedia layout of info. Could not find a citation about Kate JasonSmith's award, apart from the quotation, although since I now know what it was for I'll be keeping an eye out for a published reference. Have been sidelined by other women deserving pages, so haven't gone looking for material on Kate's mother-the-war-hero.

However, I did manage to set up a page for another Kiwi war hero of the female persuasion--Pamela Pigeon. (I kid you not.) So I have obviously made a little progress in maneuvering through Wikipedia protocol.

Thanks again for your help. Tarkiwi25 (talk) 04:38, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Tarkiwi25, and good job! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Kbrown (WMF). Thanks for the survey; I've filled it out. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

new page - please let me know when it is approvedEdit


I submitted a page for Mayor Eric P. Feichthaler. Can you let me know when it is live on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capecoraler (talkcontribs) 23:04, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello Capecoraler and nice to meet you. I see you created this: Draft:Eric P. Feichthaler. That's the page you should keep an eye on regarding the article in question vs. requesting that I do so as I'm pretty busy with other wiki responsibilities (online; offline) and IRL. Also, I avoid working on BLPs in general; men's BLPs in particular. You'll want to keep up with discussions on that draft page, and follow any instructions/suggestions that the reviewer(s) make. Happy editing! --Rosiestep (talk) 23:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Women Do News edit-a-thonEdit

Hi, Rosie. I'm a co-organizer of the Women Do News edit-a-thon, which is focused on adding notable women journalists to Wikipedia. I'm in search of a couple experienced Wikipedia editors to give us a hand at our f2f event on Nov. 16 in Manhattan, and wondered if you might know of one or two folks in NYC I could reach out to. Thanks much in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejgertz (talkcontribs) 21:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ejgertz. What a super idea! Pharos, an officer of the board of WMNYC, is well-suited to answer your question about who you might reach out to in NYC. Sending you loads of good wishes for your event, and, if you think about it, please do give me a link to the event so I can follow your progress. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:50, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: The link is Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Women_Do_News_Edit-a-thon_@_Luminary_in_NYC. See also my announcement on the WiR main page. I suggested Pharos too whom they've contacted on his talk page. Thanks for responding so quickly. I offered to help them remotely but may have difficulty because of the time difference with NYC - but let's see how it goes.--Ipigott (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Thanks for the good wishes. If we organize another meetup in the future, we now know to reach out a lot sooner to other local editors, and really appreciate Ipigott's help tomorrow.--Ejgertz (talk) 01:31, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Ejgertz, I see that Jim.henderson has signed up; as he is a veteran editor, things should go just fine. I've signed up as well, as a remote participant, and, time permitting, will write some articles in the next few days. But yes, to your point, more notice is better as WMNYC, Women in Red, and other large f2f and/or online communities coordinate our calendars weeks in advance. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:08, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Sure; our new event operator Ejgertz got something wrong. Not to worry; setting up an editathon is a complicated business and Wikipedians seldom get anything right the first time and not often the second. For tomorrow, I committed last weekend to meet someone at Metropolitan Museum, so the overlapping events mean I'll leave early from 30th Street and arrive late at 81st Street. Knowing we have competent lecturers at The Met, I can miss the opening hour there. If the earlier event needs a lecturer, I can give it a go even though I wasn't very good on a previous try. Seldom get anything right the first time, y'know. Jim.henderson (talk) 05:14, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Jim.henderson. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:02, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
I'm glad to see the event produced a handful of new articles. Next time round, we need to organize everything much earlier and far more systematically. As far as I can see there are at least half a dozen more biographies waiting to be transferred to Wikipedia. Ejgertz: Any idea how we can access these and work with those who compiled them over the next few days or weeks?--Ipigott (talk) 14:06, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
I hope nobody minds; I'm going to copy the last post to Wikipedia talk:Meetup/NYC/Women Do News Edit-a-thon @ Luminary in NYC and answer there. It seems more appropriate than the personal talk page of someone busy and far away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim.henderson (talkcontribs) November 18, 2019 (UTC)
That makes sense, so I responded there regarding Twitter. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:47, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Having a bit of funEdit

Hi, Rosie - didn't get a chance to say goodbye in Cambridge, and don't want to miss an opportunity to properly thank you for the incredible work you do/did for WikiConferenceNA. THANK YOU!!! I also wanted to make you aware of a fun little video summary I threw together. I also uploaded it to the WC site. Enjoy! Atsme Talk 📧 14:55, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Atsme, I am so glad you enjoyed the conference. As for the video, well, just, wow!! It's awesome. I had no idea you do stuff like this. Would you please provide a link to the WC page where you uploaded the video, as I can't find it. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:57, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the kind words! It was just a quickie but sorta inline with my former career. Silly me - what I actually did was upload it to Commons, and added the categories: WikiConference North America 2019 at Museum of Fine Arts and Category:WikiConference North America 2019. Feel free to utilize it however you see fit. Atsme Talk 📧 20:18, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Atsme really did attend WCNA2019. Photoshopped attendance, 4th row, far right 😊
Atsme, you have done some amazing things! Obvs, I had no idea. I'm checking with the coreteam as to where to add the link. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:53, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Great video Atsme. Makes me feel I also joined in the fun. Look forward to more along the same lines.--Ipigott (talk) 08:51, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
I am flattered - feels good, too. 😂 One last note, and I'll leave you in peace, Ms Rosie - I completely forgot about the group was one of the reasons I flew all the way to Boston (not) with a little PS magic, I am now in the photograph, and added it to my UP.   Atsme Talk 📧 20:29, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
You continue to impress me with your skills, Atsme. Way to go! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:17, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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Giving thanksEdit

Cassia javanica, Torremolinos
... with thanks from QAI

Thank you for all your efforts to make women blue! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda Arendt. Wishing you all the best. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:14, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Did you get my email Rosie? I don't know how you stay so motivated here! .♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:48, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
Dr. Blofeld, I got two different emails from you, both with big orange banners saying not to respond to them if the sender did not contact me in a usual way as the emails could be hoaxes. I'm motivated because I believe the work we do here is important, plus, I enjoy doing it. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:53, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
That's so bizarre. I was having trouble with my old account. Obviously not a hoax email. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:57, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Gap in our coverageEdit

Some time ago, Rosie, I noticed that despite all the years we have been working on women writers and their works, the only real overviews we have at the moment are Women writers, which consists mainly of links to other articles, and Women's writing (literary category) in connection with literature studies. Compared to the general coverage of History of literature, which includes many detailed articles by period, our coverage of women's contribution to literature is pretty sketchy for anyone wishing to look into the matter. Given your recent work on transatlantic literature and your involvement with students, I was wondering whether you would be interested in extending existing articles and perhaps writing new ones on topics such as History of women in literature or History of women in Western literature. Maybe if you were to make a start, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW and I could help you along. We could also invite contributions from Women in Red and WikiProject Women writers. There's absolutely no rush to do this but perhaps you could fit something in to your tight schedule over the coming months. In any case, I would be interested to hear whether you agree that this is a gap we need to fill.--Ipigott (talk) 08:22, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

@Ipigott: it's just one of many gaps to fill. I thin there's also a big gap for women in music articles, too. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:24, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: Women in music looks pretty good to me but we could perhaps work on improving Women in classical music.--Ipigott (talk) 09:29, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott:, women in more specific forms of music, such as Jazz, Blues, Classical, etc could use articles. If you started one, I'd be able to help. Also, an article on African American women in Classical music (or maybe just African Americans in Classical music in general) would be a very good article to work on. There's really a lot of activity there that's very much underrepresented. :/ Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
I think it might be good to start with a list: something like List of black women in Classical music maybe? I'm not sure how to phrase it. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:36, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Sorry Ipigott, I am hip deep at present with real life commitments, though I must say that it has crossed my mind that we haven't done a real topic-based collaborative article in a while. Maybe after the first of the year I could find time to work on this? SusunW (talk) 17:25, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, and SusunW: indeed, Wikipedia is sorely lacking in overview articles related to women in various fields, and writing in particular. Thank you kindly for suggesting it, Ian, but I don't see myself as the best writer to draft such an overview article. However, this might be an excellent fit for one or more women's lit classes, so I'm adding Jami (Wiki Ed), Educational Partnerships Director at the Wiki Education Foundation, to the conversation as she may be aware of an upcoming class in 2020 who would be suited for the challenge. That said, if SusunW is interested in getting a start on it, that would indeed work, too. In any case, I'd be glad to contribute to this next year. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:14, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
These are interesting suggestions that certainly deserve an article. I'll flag it to Helaine, in case she knows of any spring 2020 lit courses where this would be a good fit. Additionally, if we run any literature-focused Wiki Scholars courses before these are articles, I think this would be a really great overview for an expert to get their hands on. Thanks for pinging me, Rosie. Jami (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:35, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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