User talk:Rosiestep/Archive 2

Nunamiut & Nunatamiut

Is there a relationship between the two groups? They are both inland caribou hunters. Also I noticed that the reference I used for the second was using John Bockstoce and Vilhjalmur Stefansson as sources. It's possible that Stefansson didn't quite get the name right. I suspect that both are the same group but I don't have a source for it. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Nunavummiut is a newer name, around 1999, from when the territory was created. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Columbia Reservation

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Did you know

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Pear

You should add those Thai ethnic groups to Template:Ethnic groups in Thailand as well. Ethnologue says the Pear just live in Cambodia; how do you know they also live in Thailand? They're not in the lists of ethnic groups of Thailand I used when I created the article. Badagnani 23:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks--it's great to have more ethnic groups in List of ethnic groups in Thailand. It was very hard to create that article because there's no single list that lists all of them. There are so many ethnic groups that the Thai government treats as "guests" or else wishes weren't living there... That includes a lot of refugees from Burma and elsewhere. Badagnani 02:03, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget to add those groups to Template:Ethnic groups in Thailand so we can keep both the article and template consistent, listing the same groups. Badagnani 02:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Society of the Song Dynasty

I like your recent addition of a further reading section and journal articles to the Society of the Song Dynasty article. It looks very nice, thank you for contributing.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 19:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Kugluktuk, Nunavut

I noticed this earlier. I was wondering if you had seen anymore information on "Lena Pedersen"? Red Pedersen had a wife called "Lena" (no source) but there is also an article on Lena Pederson. if you look at her article there is the sentence that she was "...a drug and alcohol program coordiantor for Kugluktuk." This pdf file which I found based on your edit says that she "...is Program Coordinator for the Kugluktuk Awareness Centre..." so I trying to figure out if they are the same person. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I had forgot to mention that I asked a Yellowknife based editor if he knew the correct spelling of the boarding home. It turns out that the GNWT isn't sure either see here and here. I was also able to find that the GN has both Pederson and Peterson (confused with Keith Peterson?) in the same Hansard. I'm going to be in Yellowknife at the end of the week so I'll see if I can get a picture of the name of the boarding home. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks as if they are the same person. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Feeling a bit silly this morning. I can't believe that I never noticed this before. Their site needs better linking and a search function. Did you see C. T. Pedersen? Looks more like a coincidence than anything else. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I got a bit of it in earlier but not much. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Well I checked to see what was written outside the boarding home in Yellowknife and all it said was "Kitikmeot Boarding Home". However, the van they use has "Lena Pedersen" on it but I wasn't able to get a picture. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 18:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Good research. In addition to Pedersen on the van, the book author is Pedersen (not Pederson). So, maybe a discussion on the Lena Talk page regarding moving the article from Lena Pederson to Lena Pedersen? Rosiestephenson 21:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I started a discussion at Talk:Lena Pederson. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 18:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. I just contributed to the Lena Pederson Talk page following your comment. Rosiestephenson 18:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Alumni

Lots of good work adding alumni to Morningside High School. I wonder if I could persuade you to start adding them as refs using the ref tag, for example you currently have something that says [http://www.foo.com] but if you could add it as <ref>[http://www.foo.com Article name] by john smith at MSNBC, January 1, 2001</ref>. Just something to think about, it would have two affects - 1 it would put all the links you're using as sources in the "References" section automatically with numbers and footnotes. 2 it would make it easier to understand what the links represent without clicking on them. If you have question, problems, etc, let me know. Just a thought. Thanks. Arthur 20:55, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Arthur. And you're right. I meant to convert the URLS to citations from Day1 but each time I added an entry, I procrastinated some more. Will move this up on my TODO list. Rosiestephenson 21:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Excellent. I thought about starting the process myself, but the size of the list put me off. ;-) Arthur 21:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

I've started on it, but any assistance is ok by me. :) Rosiestephenson 22:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

October 2007 California wildfires

I appreciate your work, turning this from an ongoing event into a piece of history. I've been doing a little of the same myself -- and I think there's more to do yet. El Ingles 01:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, Stu. Yes, the article needs more copyedit. I figured once the Poomacha was contained, I'd give more attention to the article as a whole. As it reads now, I think it's both fragmented, certain editors concentrating on a particular region, and overly detail laden in certain subsections. Rosiestephenson 16:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Kallawaya language

Hi, I recently made some edits for grammar to this page which you created. Since I am not familiar with the subject matter, it is possible I have inadvertently changed the meaning. Perhaps you might like to give it the once-over and check I didn't change anything substantial. Regards, — BillC ^talk 17:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bill. Thanks for improving the article! Rosiestephenson 18:17, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 11 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Smith Sound, Trinity Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Daniel 00:58, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Daniel. I appreciate it! Rosiestephenson 03:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

List of Corelle patterns

Hello Rosie. I came across this new article while doing New Page patrol. This kind of a list is one that tends to be frowned upon in Wikipedia, per WIkipedia is not a directory. I was going to mark it for speedy deletion as A7 but thought I would ask you first if you have some kind of a long-term plan that would expand this article or make it more significant. As it stands now, it is bound to be viewed by some editors as trivial info. After all, we have no articles on the individual Corelle patterns, so this list is not needed for navigation. Let me know if you have any comments on this issue. EdJohnston (talk) 00:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello Ed. The pattern list was originally in the Corelle article, but got deleted last month by another editor. While I didn't plan on creating an article on any of the patterns, other collectors/wikieditors might. Or would it be better to return the list to the article? Rosiestephenson (talk) 00:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to write any well-sourced text on one or two individual patterns that you would consider notable? Or just say 'this was a successful product because 24 patterns were eventually sold?' Something that summarizes and highlights, rather than merely lists. Another trick might be to find somewhere on the maker's web site where the patterns are listed, and you could link to that. I sympathize that the info was previously kicked out of the article, but that could mean that it doesn't belong at all. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and all that. EdJohnston (talk) 00:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

From User_talk:Slashme: Hello. On June 1, 2007, I added a list of Corelle pattern names to the Corelle article since Corelleware patterns are collectibles. In September, an anonymous user augmented the list. On October 30th, surprisingly, you deleted the list with the Comment: "No sense in a meaningless list of model names." IMHO, while the list might be meaningless to you, it's not meaningless to millions of users and collectors. So I created a new page, List of Corelle patterns, and moved the list there. That's probably a better location for it anyway. Rosiestephenson (talk) 23:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rosie. I can't see the general applicability of a list of Corelle model names: Knowing that Corelle brought out a pattern that they marketed under the name "china blossom" isn't really useful to anyone except a collector of dinnerware, and can't be usefully tied in to any other information on Wikipedia. Depending on copyright issues, an illustrated list might or might not be acceptable, though. It might still seem to be information more suitable to a company catalogue than a general encyclopedia, though. See Wikipedia:Listcruft.--Slashme (talk) 06:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Ed and Slashme: OK. Fyi, I made the appropriate updates to the Corelle page, anticipating that an Admin will delete the List of Corelle patterns page. Rosiestephenson (talk) 06:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Royal Copenhagen 2010 plaquettes

This is to advise you that I am intending to remove the trivia entries about the Royal Copenhagen 2010 plaquettes that you have added to almost every single article that is about a topic which the company depicts on their plaquettes. The reason is that I consider this type of "product placement" on Wikipedia harmful to the project's integrity as it could lead to hundreds of spammy entries by various companies, such as an entry on every single botanical article page that is about a flower depicted on for example Joy Jow Enterprises' porcelain coffee cups, etc., etc. I consider this type of editing practice spamming. Looking at your previous contributions, I noticed that you are mainly adding books to "Further reading" sections. Please note that this could also be considered marginally questionable if the only aim is to advertise certain authors, sites or publishers. Afv2006 (talk) 00:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Afv, I am NOT a spammer. I thought linking Danish scenes on Danish-made plaquettes to Danish articles was adding value, and I thought "In popular culture" was an appropriate section within the articles. I understand your point, however, about product placement, something I had not considered. As for adding books to articles' "Further reading", my aim is to add value, not to advertise any particular author, or site, or publisher. I am careful to not duplicate authors, subject, or publishers within an article, unless, rarely, someone is a stand-out authority, and then I might include a second book by the same person. Rosiestephenson (talk) 02:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Rosie, I understand. The problem is that a trivia section mentioning the same company, when suddenly added to 30-40 different articles, will raise suspicions - it would have been better, in my opinion, to just add a link to the Royal Copenhagen list of plates under "See also" in the main article, Denmark, and in the Copenhagen article, rather than have the same short section added to that many articles. However, I'll leave the rest of the articles alone for the time being, and I'll instead ask for input on the Danish portal. Best wishes, Afv2006 (talk) 04:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Your edit to Knut (polar bear)

Hey, thanks for your note. I don't think the book requires a "Further reading" section, however, because it's already mentioned at length in "Commercial success." Some may also argue that it's hardly academic, as well, though I've yet to read it. :) Thanks also for the well wishes on the FAC. Unfortunately it's not getting as much support as I would have hoped. Ah, well. Take care, María (habla conmigo) 13:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

For copyediting Piłsudski's article. Since you have read it, don't hesitate to comment at the FAC discussion.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 19:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

T206 Honus Wagner

I have responded to your comment on the FAC page. Could you please point specific issues? Thanks, Nishkid64 (talk) 21:36, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I have made the recommended corrections now. Happy editing, Nishkid64 (talk) 21:59, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of Royal Copenhagen 2010 plaquettes

An article that you have been involved in editing, List of Royal Copenhagen 2010 plaquettes, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Royal Copenhagen 2010 plaquettes. Thank you. Valentinian ^{T / C} 11:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Woodson (surname)

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I wouldn't worry about this notification. Sometimes the bots can't tell the difference. You did what was right by creating both a disambiguation page and a given name page. Some editors may argue whether the surname page is notable, but I think it is. Remember (talk) 23:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. These automatic programs do a useful job, but they can't tell that you are deliberately and intelligently splitting an existing article in two. Keep up the good work, Rosie! - Fayenatic (talk) 23:31, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey Rosie, thank you for the feedback. It really does mean a lot. :-) SlimVirgin ^{(talk)(contribs)} 19:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Redlinks on disambiguation pages

I note that you appear to have embarked on a "project" to hide redlinks on human disambiguation pages e.g. John Robinson. Is this as a result of a centrally agreed policy, arrived at by consensus, or merely your personal choice? The effect of your changes is to destroy some of the functionality of the DaB pages. Surely redlinks are there for a purpose - to inform users/editors that there are others with the same name for whom an article might/ought to be created in future. Furthermore, should I decide to create an article on John Robinson (sociologist) (the first hidden red-linked article), then when I click on "What links here" in the left-hand column, there is no longer any link shown to the John Robinson article.

At this stage, I am minded to reinstate the redlinks to the DaB page, but await your response first. I hope this doesn't sound too hostile - it's not meant to. I write this simply as a user who wants to improve whole Wiki project. Best wishes. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Woman's Barnstar
		I award this Barnstar to you, Rosiestephenson, for getting stuck in so constructively on Anthroponymy articles! Fayenatic (talk) 18:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I award you the Original Barnstar for your continued work on the Anthroponomy articles. You are doing a great job and helping out a part of wikipedia that needs lots attention. Keep up the good work! Remember (talk) 15:49, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Fitzmorris

A tag has been placed on Fitzmorris requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Wisdom89 (talk) 06:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rosie. Yes, I noticed that this had been resolved, and meant to reply. I think someone was using a semi-automated tool WP:TWINKLE to browse new articles. As you can imagine, a lot of new articles are rubbish or trivia. In this case that editor's snap decision was wrong, but at least he warned you. In any case, deletion only happens if an administrator comes across it and agrees with the nomination. If the article makes sense, has been categorised, and has the WikiProject banner on its talk page, then it should be pretty safe.

However, if you do ever find that an article has been deleted, you can ask a friendly admin such as User:DGG to put a copy of it onto a subpage in your user space. Then you can do any further work required, and Move it when you are ready to make it an article again. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Ihalmiut

I remembered that you appear to have access to some great material and I wondered if there was anything you could add to this article. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:00, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

All I could really find on Henrik Lake was this. There was a mention of it in a mining file but I couldn't get the pdf right now, even the Atlas of Canada has nothing. I'll use Google Earth later to check the distance from Arviat (Eskimo Point) to Ennadai. Agh, it's Henik Lake without the "R". I just looked at Remembering Kikkik and saw the spelling difference. I now get hits in Google and North Henik and South Henik lakes, both in the same place in Nunavut. I'll work on that later. Have a good holiday. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 08:56, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Ireland

Rosie, I replied to your message on Wikiproject Ireland. --sony-youth^pléigh 17:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)