User talk:Gonzo fan2007/Archive 2008

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It's really not that big of a deal, I've done that a few times. Basically, if an FLC has three supports but no opposition and has been there for 15 days, and I think it meets the conditions, I'll support it solely so that it can be passed. As for your closures, both had recent comments, and I try to give nominators a few days to address those comments before I close it, because the FL process is supposed to make a list as good as possible, and if there are concerns then we should give them a chance to be addressed. In fact, based on a few recent comments, I'm likely going to start being a bit of a harder judge when I close FLCs, and I will likely start failing them even if they only have 1 oppose "vote". -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 21:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Early closures

Early closures of FLCs are a HUGE no no. You closed List of works by William Monahan when it had one day left, and you closed List of ammonites when it also had one day left. And even if opposition isn't being addressed, generally such FLCs should be given a few MORE days, not a few less. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 13:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Indy Colts seasons

What happens next? Does it just wait for an admin or somebody to approve or what? Sorry I'm new at FL/FAs. HoosierState 22:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for info, I didn't really know how this whole process worked. I'm going to take a look at your nom and more than likely give it support since you helped me so much through my process! HoosierState 23:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan, Colts/Packers Super Bowl XLII! Colts 27 Packers 13 :P. But in all seriousness I'm pulling for Green Bay in the NFC. I really can't stand either of the number 1 seeds. If someone questions my reason for support I'll tell them the article looks really good and deserves to be a FL, because it does. I just added the extra part because I didn't just want to say great work (kinda boring). Go Colts! --- HoosierState 23:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I really don't like doing this because it makes me feel selfish but I do believe Indy Colts seasons has passed nomination. It's been there for 10 days and it has 5 supports and 0 oppose. I would promote it myself, since you said anyone can promote but I no idea how to. I saw you knew how to promote so thats why I came to you to ask if you could. Again I don't like asking others to do stuff for me especially something I've worked a lot on but if you could I really appreciate it. Thanks, HoosierState 01:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I knew it was a bad idea to close it myself anyway, thanks for all your help the last 2 weeks. HoosierState 02:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

McGill University

Please do not interfere if you do not know what you are talking about. The accusation to Snowfire is not absurd or baseless as you claim it is. Read the history for this article dated December 31, 2007 (21:23). You will see there that Snowfire offered a compromise (which he now denies) and that he offered to put the college rankings on the lead paragraph itself (which he now does not want to discuss). So what is absurd there except your note?

Thanks.Editorhwaller (talk) 01:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with my talk page. Snowfire51 (talk) 02:06, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

New NFL Template

I fixed/merged the new templates that Fruminous created. I think combining the two leagues would be ok since they are seperate. I fixed the links the best I could, check it out now and see if it is any better. HoosierState 03:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait what do you mean by I think it would look a lot cleaner and go in line with the other NFL season by team templates. they look the same formatting wise. HoosierState 03:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gonzo fan --

It's a confusing situation. I've been working on the Steelers' seasons, putting the NFL templates that I created at the bottom of the pages. I've really been stuck as to what to do for 1969 and before.

I created the first template using the "season" moniker, but realized that it wasn't the proper title, because truly the two leagues were playing two "seasons." Not being an administrator, I couldn't delete the first template. That said, from the 1966 season to the 1969 season, the two leagues were definitely separate, but did play a world championship in the Super Bowl. I created the template believing that, even though there were two different leagues, any visitor would be interested in what was going on in both of them.

I can certainly understand an argument that we should create two templates, one for the AFL and the other for the NFL. This would make sense especially for the pre-1966 seasons. Call it a personal preference, but I'd rather see something along the lines of combining the two leagues, as their fates were intertwined.

What's important to me is that we, as a community, create a strategy to deal with the seasons by team between 1960 and 1970. If that means creating separate templates, so be it. If it means creating a combined template, that's fine by me too.

Fruminous (talk) 05:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gonzo fan--

Your templates look good. I cannot help but think, however, that if I were coming to these pages, I would want some way to navigate to what was happening in the opposing league.

Basically, we have three periods that we have to cover:

• 1960-1965 Seasons: Leagues are in competition with each other
• 1966-1969 Seasons: Leagues have an agreement that leads them to merger
• 1970 Season: Leagues merge

We have the third case covered, so no problem there. Your solution works for the first solution -- so again, no problem. I propose that we put (maybe in italics) a link to the other league's season page for the 1966 to 1969 seasons. During that period, the two leagues weren't quite like Major League Baseball, in which they were administered by the same commissioner, but neither were they like MLB and Japan's professional leagues, who only play exhibitions against one another. Beginning in 1966, their fates were definitely intertwined.

I'll take your 1969 NFL template and put it on my sandbox to illustrate my idea.

Thanks for your ideas.

Fruminous (talk) 23:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Gonzo fan--

Take a look at case 4. Let me know what you think. It's my favorite right now.

Fruminous (talk) 00:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant!-

This is a much better solution. 'Twas good working with you. I'll make the edits.

Fruminous (talk) 00:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Okay we need a 3rd party. Frum wants to use nicknames in the templates but I think since they are in different leagues (AFL/NFL) nicknames are not nessecary. HoosierState 04:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Since there were the Dallas Cowboys in the NFL in 1962 and the Dallas Texans in the AFL in 1962 Frum wants to use nicknames (Cowboys/Texans) in the templates to specify. They are in completely different leagues so I say no nicknames. HoosierState 04:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

It's all an interesting point similar to what we discussed earlier today and one that we need to vet with the larger community. The AFL/NFL merger does introduce some complexities!

Anyway... I've managed to do what I said that I wouldn't and went ahead and created all of the templates back to 1960. I'll spend a final few minutes adding them to the team season pages. Take a look at them, if you would, and let me know if you see anything that I've missed. I'm sure that there's a year here and there that needs to be corrected.

Fruminous (talk) 04:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

New Orleans Saints picks FLC

Seems a bit unfair to Oppose just because I don't agree with your advice. Buc (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah! so you were hoping we come reach a middle ground a compromise if you like. You should have said. What did you have in mind? Re-nom BTW. Buc (talk) 07:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't normally renominate straight away. Ok I'll concede the use of the Reggie Bush image since it show him before the Saints drafted him but not the Stallworth image because it shows him after his Saints career had endded. Also the images in there curent form look a bit ugly so how about if I make Reggie Bushthe only image? Buc (talk) 20:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you willing to show support now? Buc (talk) 21:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you know of another sourse for Draft Transactions? Apprently NC Systems isn't good enough. Buc (talk) 21:41, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Not much we can do then and the FLC rules do say "Each objection must provide a specific rationale that can be addressed." Buc (talk) 21:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

All I could find was this: [1] Buc (talk) 21:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Got a reply today. He's not interested in helping us. Buc (talk) 17:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok I've had an idea of how this issue could be resolved. this site says what team the pick was aquired from so if the footnote are re-phared to say something like "aquired from x details unknown" we could use this as a sourse. Buc (talk) 10:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Looks like I've been able to sort thing out by using another ref and repharing the footnote. May want to take note of this for furture FL nomination for First rd draft pick lists. Buc (talk) 22:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Image:Fring htc.jpg

Gonzo - this image is being used in an article I am preparing about fring for wikipedia. The image is not copyrighted as i took the picture i control the copyright and have released it under creative commons. I have also been in contact with the copyright owner who has given permission for the image and its use on wikipedia and anywhere else on the internet.

Please put the image back where it belongs.

regards

Goplett (talk) 16:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Packers HoF image

I have responded to your reply on my talk page to keep it all together. Would you give your opinion about the other 2 images that I have uploaded to flickr for consideration? I don't mind having an admin image expert review the situation since I would contend that it is a picture of the location. That way everything should be safer. To me it's just like taking a picture outside of Lambeau Field: the logo happens to be at the entrace to the place. It's a part of the location. It's not a big deal to me either way. I agree that the potential problem should get resolved immediately. Royalbroil 04:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

:)

Second time today :) Rudget. 21:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't move it (I think that's what you're saying :)) - But yeah, hopefully that's the end of those sneaky deletions. Rudget. 21:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:LOTD

In the last month, you have created 3 new WP:FLs. From what I can tell, they are your first ones. Congratulations! You may not be aware of WP:LOTD. We are experimenting with selecting Lists of the Day so similar to the current WP:TFA and WP:POTD features that run on the main page. I invite you to participate.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:

It's been sorted and is running again :) . Mønobi 03:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry.

I rewrote it again like 4 times.(Fight Club) then i read the emssage, thought soem idiot was editing it, and make it all... loopy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anubis God (talk • contribs) 07:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Re: Sorry

I changed the Fight Club thing like 5 times cause i though people kept changeing it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anubis God (talk • contribs) 21:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Nice Game There!

Gonzo fan -- nice game. I'm rooting for you guys.

Fruminous (talk) 00:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

AFL Template Proposed Merge

There's a proposed merge on the 1960 AFL Season by Team template. You might want to weigh in on the topic.

Fruminous (talk) 04:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Merv Pregulman

You rated the Merv Pregulman article as a "stub" today. That appears to be a mistake. The article is eight pages long with more than 40 in line citations. I'd appreciate your taking a look at this again and revising the rating.Cbl62 (talk) 20:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to make the revision.Cbl62 (talk) 22:10, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

List of Indianapolis Colts first-round draft picks

Hey there again, I just recently created that new article. I would eventually like to raise it FL class as well. If you wouldn't mind I would really appreciate it if you would evaluate it and make any suggestions you would like. That way we don't go through the same issues that we had with the Colts seasons, haha. Thanks in advance. HoosierState 21:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay I fixed all your suggestions and nominated it. Once again you've proven as a huge alley! HoosierState 23:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay I noticed that some of other featured "List of first-round draft picks" used the same website that I did but were promoted anyway. Then I read through almost all the arguments against that website. I'm concerned that the list I nominated will be failed because of it. I have searched the internet thoroughly with no luck of other references for this. What should I do to fix this if it comes up in the discussion? I don't know, it just doesn't make since that other of these lists use the website but were promoted to FL status, except the New Orleans Saints list, it was failed. Once again I look to you for advice, sorry I keep bugging you, haha. HoosierState 18:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Of course somebody would bring it up at the last possible time, haha, my luck. HoosierState^Talk 22:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• Hey just letting you know the Nomination can be closed now :). HoosierState^Talk 21:34, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Gonzo. You know what's funny, Gimmebot had already done all of that before you even sent me your message. HoosierState^Talk 22:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Yes, it's been an interesting few days. I see that Starwars1955 hasn't show up lately? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: I'm a bit surprised he disappeared, especially since the season is still going. Hmmm, better knock twice... I've thought about semi-protecting my user page. I almost did it when I hit 200, but I decided against it. Maybe when I hit my two year anniversary. There's a scary thought. =\ How time flies. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for the revert on my talk page this time. So much for today being calmer. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, at least I got one day of fairly quiet editing done. I guess it was too good to last. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

Hello. I've seen your work around plenty (basically just Brett Favre, I've had that watchlisted for years now due to the sockpuppets), and I think that you would make a good admin. If you'd like, I can nominate you over at WP:RFA. Let me know of your decision. Wizardman 17:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I just have to get the nom form ready, then you just have to answer the questions and transclude it. (Sorry I didn't respond at first, my noms haven't been going as wel of late so I'm trying to look at my candidates closer now) Wizardman 04:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Alright, it's ready for your part now. Wizardman 01:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey Gonzo, Just wanted to say congrats on being admin without any opposes or neutrals. Good luck.--Pookeo9 (talk) 11:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congrats becoming an admin! I'm glad to see you made it. Good luck and happy editing. Burner0718 (Jibba Jabba!) 18:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

My request for adminship was successful at 64/1/2! Many thanks for your participation and I will endeavor to meet your expectations. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 09:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Article on '61 and '62 NFL Championships

Gonzo fan-

There's a good article in today's New York Times on the '61 and '62 NFL championships (with a lot to say about the Packers.) It might help with your efforts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/sports/football/16giants.html

Fruminous (talk) 06:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Just wanted to say you've done a great job with the Packers WikiProject. I just added my name to the list of members, and I'll be trying to help out.   jj137 ^♠ 21:34, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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Re:Sorry

nvm it.

-Anubis God-

Football

Sorry about your Packers, I know how you feel. So much for our plan of Colts/Packers XLII in the Desert, both of our teams fall short. At least the Packers/Giants game was a good game. There's always next year for what its worth. At least 1 Manning made it, now he needs to win it! Could you imagine? Back to back Manning winners!! Anyway see you later. HoosierState^Talk 03:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I know what you mean, talent wise. The Colts have had talent like no other but never do enough. Our best free agents are a couple of o-lineman, Jake Scott and Ryan Lilja, so we should have most everyone back plus a few newbies from the draft. So maybe our plan can be pushed back to next season, can't wait (lucky I have college basketball to keep me happy til April)! HoosierState^Talk 04:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: List of career achievements by Brett Favre

I mass-protected about 4000 non-existent pages to deprecate an old system. You should contact the deleting admin. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

What do you think?

San Diego Chargers seasons hopeful I can make this a FL. I know I need to eliminate the red links. Anything else you think I should do?

Bad luck yesterday BTW. Buc (talk) 16:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

San Diego Chargers seasons now having a PR. Buc (talk) 20:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey, whats up?

If you'd like to know some about me you can go to my page. But yeah, what I mainly do on here dealing with the Packers is that I frequently go to Ryan Grant's page to make sure nothing is vandalized, I also make sure that the correct and up-to-date information is on there. Once in a while I will update other Packer players wikipedias with new information about them as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Y5nthon5a (talk • contribs) 06:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to try and find more information on Ryan Grant and add it to his wikipedia. He has some, but since he is obviously going to be running all over teams next year like he has the final 10 weeks of the Packers season and the postseason, people need to know who he is...Lol ;). Also I am not sure if you knew, but Javon Walker stated at the end of December he would like to return to Green Bay. What do you think? I hope he goes back, although he needs to get his head out his @$$ because when he left he said that he didn't want to work hard for a team that he didnt like(the packers) yet after being with his current team for a couple years(which he said he loved when he joined) he wants to leave and come back to the Packers. I mean, he is good, but he is stupid for thinking that people do not know what he is trying to do...He wants to get fame by going to the packers since they are in such a good stage right now of the franchise. Y5nthon5a (talk) 07:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

We need more information on Chad Clifton as well, his page barely has any information on it. Y5nthon5a (talk) 21:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

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No problem. If I need anything I'll let you know. :) Burner0718 (Jibba Jabba!) 18:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations

Congratulations on becoming an administrator. I know you will use the tools wisely. Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 18:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome. I did not see any opposes. A sign that the community trusts you very much. Thank you, I will probably need assistance in the future. Cheers. Earthbendingmaster 19:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, man! Best of luck to you. :) Definitely take a look at the new admin school, it's really useful. Drop me a line if you need any help! GlassCobra 20:09, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Congratulations. =) If you need any help, do feel free to ask. I suspect that you will get the hang of things fairly quickly, though, and won't need my help. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: I know what you mean. The "delete" button sitting on the main page still frightens me from time to time. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Just be careful editing protected pages. You lost me a little on the proper length part. Do you mean the length for protection or account/address block length? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Ah, okay. With blocking, most admins start short with 24 or 31 hours and then progress for longer blocks more or less down the pop-up list. For IPs, I usually go 24/31 hours, 1 week, 1 month, 6 month, 1 year. For logged in accounts, the progression scale varies depending upon what they've done. Some get a short day long block and others go straight in indef or get an indef after they return. If you watch others, you'll get the hang of it. =) Also, after awhile you will get a feel for when a short or long block is required. You'll begin to recognize the troublemakers who will never do any good versus those who just need a short break.

Protection length is a bit harder to do. You have to look at how long the vandalism has been going on. If it's just today, then maybe a short protection will work. If it's been going on for awhile, a longer one might be warranted. Also check the past protection history to see what has been going on.

If you really want to see some action, watch when during school hours. The kids are out in force. Vandalism all over the place, blocks and protections are flying. Oh, what fun. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: If it's the same account recreating the article, I tend not to protect the page as I will block the account instead (after issuing a uw-create4, of course). I will protect recreation of the page if multiple accounts are creating the page after around the fifth or sixth recreation. The reason I favor account blocks is that some editors have discovered that they can just recreate the article with a slightly different name like "Gonzo fan2007", "Gonzo fan2007 (football fan)", or "Gonzo fan2007 (Packer fan)". Instead of protecting a bunch of pages, the account gets blocked and that's the end of that nonsense. That is until they create another account and then you're back to page protection. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

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About your RfA

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You're welcome. :) Acalamari 20:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA

sa'right. BTW, would you be interested in joining the kansas city chiefs wikiproject? RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 21:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. About the project, we're really just trying to recruit people right now. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 21:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Administratortude

Congratulations on your RfA. 37-0-0. You are the New England Patriots of admins, my friend. It couldn't have happened to a better editor. Good luck! Snowfire51 (talk) 07:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

help - protection

Hi Gonzo fan2007, remember me? you were my first contact on Wikipedia. Anyway, I have a semiprotection request that needs to be applied right now - not sure if you are awake If you can please take a look at it, and the history of edits. It's getting ridiculous. thanks ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 10:40, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey Gonzo, thanks anyway. The page only needed semi-protection during the match, for like 2 hours. But I think the constant adding of live scores stopped later in the match so it was ok. But also admins said the edits were in good faith, they weren't bad vandalisms, so I guess it worked itself out. It was a good match and the article is fine now, I think. Take care ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Veeksha

Request for unblock from above, seems reasonably. Good day to you, SGGH ^speak! 12:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

No worries, sleep is good SGGH ^speak! 16:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Quality

You know, the quality of like 70 % of these edits is not very good at all. Sometimes I wonder if it makes wikipedia worse. I constantly have to undo or clean-up people's edits due to either poor writing, incorrect info, or vandalism. It's starting to get annoying lol. From my user page, you can see I like to revert vandalism, but for how long can I go on! ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 20:56, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Theta Nu Epsilon

There is no reasoning with the Alpha group because they have an agenda- and their screaming of hoax all the time has everyone jumping to their call. You can go right into their own website on TNE records look into chapter listing for Purdue and it will clearly verify Purdue as :Indiana Alpha and attached to "Skull and Crescent", but everyone at Wikipedia allows them to control what is listed on the article page even though it is common knowledge that they are an upstart not authentic to the original Alpha chapter. Their nonsense has everyone bending to their revisionist history. It is not right- they treat the article as if it is their own personal website and Wikipedia always allows them to get away with that- they are removing verifiable information that anyone can check for themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.141.156.118 (talk) 06:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The above Purdue poster is not a serious poster. His cites often are to bogus articles that don't exist, undergraduate blogs, or things he's looked up for sale on ebay. His argument is that an undergraduate society at Purdue holds the secrets of the Presidents of the United States, that it's controlled by the Venetian nobility, that they got these secrets from Skull & Bones, (he's posted all this in wikipedia previously). It's clear that this poster doesn't even belive this stuff he's making up. His extended article on the Secret Order of Skull & Crescent was deleted as a hoax this summer. Please lock the Theta Nu Epsilon page, if you wish; but this is nonsense. And he is wildly abusing the wikipedia system.129.133.124.252 (talk) 06:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

But if YOU DO lock the page, please revert to the version without all the self-serving nonsense.129.133.124.252 (talk) 06:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Adminship

Many thanks, and I extend my congratulations for your own request for adminship. Enjoy your tools. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:42, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

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Question

Hi there. How do I "resolve the issue first?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by TigerManXL (talk • contribs) 05:31, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I have submitted my suggestion for a change in the article. I have also provided several resources as factual evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TigerManXL (talk • contribs) 06:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

United States presidential election, 2008

If you don't mind, I'm going to unprotect United States presidential election, 2008 and simply block the users if they continue edit warring. Protection isn't really necessary when it's so few people when a simple block can handle the issue. Is that alright? Cowman109^Talk 20:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

TigerManXL

Do you think we're anywhere near an indef block for this guy? He's got a pretty long and disruptive history. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 00:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'm all about "one more chance" (in fact, you may have noticed that right before you blocked him, I warned him that he only had "one more chance" - I endorse your block, though). And it's a very weird thing that he's edit-warring over; who wants to undermine Mike Gravel? He's really not a threat to anyone. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 00:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Someone keeps posting my personal information on my talk page. I do not want any random hacker to see it and I have no idea who put it there. Could you please block the person doing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.12.169 (talk) 00:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Its amazing how quickly pasting in a WHOIS will stop random vandals.--mitrebox (talk) 01:13, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:RPP

I noticed you're a new admin who's been helping out here recently, and wanted to leave you some sage advice from more articulate people than me; my distilled point would be that there are alternate avenues than protection, but it's not like I don't do the latter often. :-) east.718 at 03:34, February 1, 2008

Nah, nothing specific. I just saw a sea of green pluses on RPP and a lot of unfamiliar names and figured that a new batch of admins had showed up with their trademark enthusiasm. :D east.718 at 03:54, February 1, 2008

I guess your enormous sig gravitated my attention towards you. :O east.718 at 05:57, February 1, 2008

If you're using <br /> solely to ensure that your signature doesn't break across lines, can you please replace it with <span style="white-space:nowrap">?— Preceding unsigned comment added by east718 (talk • contribs)

<span style="white-space:nowrap">[[User:Gonzo_fan2007|<font face="Harlow Solid Italic" size="3px" color="teal">Gonzo fan2007</font>]] <sup>''[[User talk:Gonzo_fan2007|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Gonzo_fan2007|contribs]]''</sup></span> - guess for what reason I was asked to use this alternative method on my own sig? :-D east.718 at 07:37, February 1, 2008

It forces linebreaks, which honestly looks horrible - I have this setup for work and it significantly disrupts reading for me. With the nowrap method, linebreaks will be forced only when your sig would be broken up otherwise and keep it intact at the same time. I actually used to use the BR hack myself until people started complaining and I found out about nowrap, which works just as good without any side effects. east.718 at 08:08, February 1, 2008

Invitation to discussion about possible COI of editors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:United_States_presidential_election%2C_2008#Possible_COI_of_two_editors --70.11.142.4 (talk) 04:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Disruptive user

Hey Gonzo I would just like point out that this user is continually changing the same thing on Indianapolis City-County Council even after I explained why they are being reverted and gave them 2 warnings. I counted that they have reverted my edits 6 times (although not in violation of 3RR because they're spread out). Maybe a block would be sufficient? Thanks. HoosierState^Talk 20:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks anyway, GO GIANTS! I hate the Pats (cheaters) more than anything on this planet! Especially that pretty boy Brady. Haha, have a good Super Bowl. HoosierState^Talk 21:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

For the record, I am the person that has been changing his posts. I am Ed Coleman and I am one of the councilors on his list. Will you please explain to the young man that I corrected his list due to an error on his part. He feels that the At-Large councillors belong at the bottom when I know from the fact that I am one of them they belong on the top. If he doubts me he is more than welcom to go to the Indianapolis web page and view how the councillors are listed. Please explain to him that I am more than qualified to correct this certain post.Ecoleman56 (talk) 03:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Please explain to him that I am more than qualified to correct this certain post., is just not accepted on Wikipedia. Everyone is of equal editing. HoosierState^Talk 03:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of NFL Season Templates

Gonzo fan-

A user is submitting deletion requests for all of the templates that I created for the 1951 NFL seasons and before. I'd appreciate your help in defending their existence.

Thank you -- Fruminous (talk) 06:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

An update: I came to an accord with the nominator. I've placed them on all of your Packer pages (let's hear it for teams with long histories!) to keep things like this from happening again.

Fruminous (talk) 06:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey! -- Just saw that you have recently become an administrator. Congratulations! If I had known, I would have been happy to add my support!

Fruminous (talk) 06:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Another FL nom

Would you have any problem with me nom San Diego Chargers seasons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bole2 (talk • contribs)

Thanks

Thanks for dealing with that obsessive vandal of mine. Bleah. =\ -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Just a little. =) Sorry to drag you into it. Unfortunately, he will probably be back visiting you again. See Trenton, Ontario for the beginning of all of this. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Yup, that's what it is. For awhile it was just me as the target, but now it's turned to people reverting my page, too. It keeps me amused. =) I take it that you're getting used to your extra tools? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for more sockpuppet reverting. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Yeah, there is a certain amount of satisfaction that comes with the block button. =) Especially for the uncreative ones. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Re your "intrusion": It doesn't bother me any. =) Coordinating a response to this vandal is probably a good thing. My talk page seems like a reasonable area to do that. A range block is probably warranted for the next time. It's just the length of the block that I'm a bit torn upon. While I know range blocks are supposed to be short, he has a habit of disappearing for awhile, so a short length might not be very effective. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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I looked at the few days before the recent incident, and decided that some protection was warranted. I will shorten my protection to five days. Is that acceptable to you? Acalamari 03:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. :) I'd give some more help at RFPP, but I'm on dial-up at the moment, and protections are slow to perform. :( Good work there! Acalamari 03:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Zwuh?

[2] Respected? Moi? I'm rarely on the positive end of those sort of inferences. :) Jmlk17 09:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for unprotecting the Death Heart article. I just noticed in the history that you had done it. Appreciated! - Dicecollector29 (talk) 17:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Gracias!

Thanks for blocking my favorite returning profane IP vandal. I don't even remember why he hates me so, but I appreciate you getting him off our backs for a little while. Thanks! Redrocket (talk) 06:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

No problems on the email, I figured you were busy. I took it to AIV for other opinions and decided it wasn't worth arguing about. Take care! Redrocket (talk) 06:42, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

ITN

It is disappointing that somebody who has been given admin rights would use those priviledges to change a page without reference to the expected syntax for that page. Kevin McE (talk) 07:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Douglasfgrego

I think you should reconsider your request on WP:RFPP and delete the page per m:right to vanish. Stifle (talk) 12:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I have seen this user abuse the unblock template, go around his block by using an IP to edit, and he has already had a right to vanish request and came back 3 days later. The community is only so giving to such people. The right to vanish is granted to users in good standing, and he certainly isnt. That said, I wouldnt be opposed to leaving him a message stating that if he leaves that his user page will be deleted and his talk page will be courtesy blanked, but I would be very against deleting the talk page, especially since this user seems to be a sockmaster and it would hurt the project to delete that talk page. Cheers! – Gonzo fan2007 ^{talk ♦ contribs} 18:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

That would seem to accomplish what we're trying to do along with what he wants. Stifle (talk) 18:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Please cancel an edit violating The 3RR

1. Some days ago, an editor made this edit.
2. On 23 February, at 5:15, the same editor has made his first revert.
3. On the same day, at 22:23, the same editor made his second revert.
4. On that very day, at 22:57, the same editor made his third revert.
5. On the same day, at 23:26, the same editor made his fourth revert.

Please cancel his fourth revert - which violates 3RR. No need to warn him, because I'm sure it was not done on purpose! He's an honest person who is absolutely aware to the 3RR and has always obeyed the 3RR. Eliko (talk) 02:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

List of ethnic slurs

Appologies for th trouble w/ speedy deletion - It was indeed my intent to nominate that page for speedy deletion (did not think it failed to meet the requirements, sorry) - i simply could not place the tag on that page as i lack an account and the page is semi protected. I figured the best place to place the note then would be in candidates for speedy deletion - as i wanted to make it a canditate for speedy deletion. What is the proper way for nominating an article for anything (deletion, speedy deletion, revision, featured ,etc.) - if it is protected or semi protected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.0.220 (talk) 04:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Packers template

I'm aware of that. It's only because a separate category for NFL templates has yet to be created (NFL List category hasn't either). But there's probably hundreds of templates out there I've tagged with the Template category, so for uniformity (when a separate category is created), I'd like all NFL templates to be classed as that. Pats1 ^T/C 12:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to create a template category as well (I've been meaning to for a year now). Pats1 ^T/C 16:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

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Thank's for the revert on my userpage! J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

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I love the new Packer subproject page. I'm so happy to see so many people "borrowing" my layout for the MCB project! :) Have you considered going with a dark green on the title bars? It'll go well with the yellow you're using for the background, I think. – ClockworkSoul 23:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Glad I could help! I put a lot of work into cleaning up the WP:MCB page, and I'm thrilled that it's serving as a guide for other projects. I always thought the official colors were hunter green, gold, and white, though? – ClockworkSoul 23:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Our own Green Bay Packers article mentions that "In 1959, new head coach Vince Lombardi changed the colors to the current hunter green and gold". :) I experimented with page previews, and I think the title bars look (on screen, at least) quite nice with hex value #355E3B. Your call though. :) Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 00:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I did make the rookie mistake of citing Wikipedia, didn't I? Point well taken, sir! – ClockworkSoul 00:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Texsaxet

This case perplexes me. I haven't worked with sockpuppets before, but it looks like these edits tamper with sock puppet evidence. So I protected that page, and blocked Texsaxet (talk · contribs). Would you have a look and see if that seems right? —EncMstr 07:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Gonzo fan2007, You recently added a not to my user page requesting that I stop putting notes on other user's pages suggesting that that transwiki their articles that were about to be deleted over to Wikipopuli. I can certainly understand your logic; what I was doing was promoting another wiki, and one that's not part of the Wikimedia Foundation. Parenthetically, I can tell you that my efforts were not all that successful; while a couple of editors have moved deleted articles over there, not many have. Which I think is a shame, actually. The reason I set up Wikipopuli is that a lot of people put up articles on Wikipedia that might be about themselves, or their boss, or a friend, or whatever, and of course it has to come down because it violates WP:BIO. Jimbo, among others, feels very strongly that non-notable bios do not have a place on Wikipedia or anywhere else in the Wikimedia Foundation. But isn't it too bad that all this content has to just get thrown out? Wouldn't it be nice if, instead of just getting deleted, this material could have a new home? Not quite as celebrated and respectable as Wikipedia, maybe, but a place to exist, at least. So, that was my idea. I'm not exactly sure how to bring it about, that is, to let people know that this option exists. I guess putting notes on people's user pages is not the way to go. I've asked other Wikipedia editors for their input (you can see their responses on my user page), and I'd certainly like to get yours. I see this effort as having the potential to complement Wikipedia, rather than parasitize it. My earlier tactics aside, do you see any value to a project like Wikipopuli? And if so, could you see a non-policy-violating way to let Wikipedians know that that the option exists to resurrect their deleted bios somewhere else? Thanks for your time, and best regards. TheYellowCabin (talk) 22:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

~~Deletion of 義安公司~~

We are very displeased that you deleted our article. There is no copyright infringement because we are the authors ourselves and we own all the information and data uploaded.

Your deletion wasted our efforts to make a translated version available on Wiki.

You have not clarified or verified with us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngeeann (talk • contribs) 01:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Taiwan

Hi Gonzo fan2007, could you reprotect Taiwan? The reason is because of constant vandalism and intentional addition of factual errors by anon. editors. As that is the case, it should have not been unprotected in the first as articles such as this are very politically unstable and is often targets of POV extremists. So if you don't reprotect, I will repect your decision. Regards, nat.utoronto 02:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Regards, nat.utoronto 02:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Lol

For some reason I found this really funny; seems like the ultimate rejection. "NO, TWO ADMINS WILL NOT PROTECT YOUR USERSPACE" Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 06:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I think we'd make Sceptre cry, haha. Anyway, I'm off to bed, and I stole your overflow TOC by the way. :D Cheers! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 06:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Ding!

I sent you email. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Kurdistan Workers Party

You declined a protection request a little while ago. I was wondering if you'd reconsider in the light of more recent edits. -- Cat ^chi? 20:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

My Signiture

Since you offered, would you please delete User:Highfields/Sig and User:Highfields/AutoSig form me now I have changed everywhere it is used. Thank You for warning me Highfields (talk) (contribs) 17:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of unrecognized countries

I have responded to your concerns at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of unrecognized countries. Please close items that have been resolved. Gary King (talk) 21:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposal RE: User:Mikkalai's vow of silence

You are a previous participant in the discussion at WP:AN/I about User:Mikkalai's vow of silence. This is to inform you, that I have made a proposal for resolution for the issue. I am informing all of the users who participated, so this is not an attempt to WP:CANVAS support for any particular position.

The proposal can be found at: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Proposed resolution (Mikkalai vow of silence) Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 01:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Recent page protection

Thought you might like to see this. Icestorm815 • Talk 22:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I appreciate it. Carter | Talk to me 22:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I think I'm inclined to err on the side of caution, but don't have a problem with your decision. _GB^T/C 22:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for Deletion

Hey Gonzofan-

I have an administrative request for you. I accidentally created an incorrectly titled page 1938 Pittsburgh Pirates (NFL). Would you be able to delete it?

Thank you very much, Fruminous (talk) 19:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Replied on Fruminous's talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

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Re your message: No problem. =) I hope the exams went well. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem. You didn't miss much. Welcome back. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... discospinster _talk 23:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Sig

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RE:List of Green Bay Packers head coaches

Thanks! I will probably not bring up to FLC, I willmost likely move on to another team list. However, if you or someone else wants to bring it up to FLC, be my guest, someone else is already bringing up my List of Washington Redskins head coaches to FLC. And yes, I will join the subproject. Jwalte04 (talk) 17:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Final warning!!!!!!

zOMG! You're too quick! - The title header is someting cool to look at in the archives in a few months. :) Rudget. 18:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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Shush!

I merely forgot that Rollback will only rollback one user - no matter how many revisions you include. D: -WarthogDemon 00:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You two are having entirely too much fun over this. =) Thanks for watching over my talk page. ;) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Yeah, it's been an interesting quarter (I think I need to trim some of it again). Usually my page isn't so uhh... active. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for Help

I was working on the 2001 St. Louis Rams season when someone came along and vandalized the page. He claims that the material was unsourced. He is out of line and I strongly disagree with his actions? I do not know what to do to address this unfair treatment? Maple Leaf (talk) 22:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

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Don't put Milk's Favorite Cookie under pressure! Instead, why don't you check out user:Stormtracker94. He has his own logo zone. Nothing444 19:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you for completing my request to unprotect my user page.

Thank you Staffwaterboy ^Talk♂ 13:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

What do you think?

Of this list I'm working on. Also would you say it is long enough to pass for a FL? Buc (talk) 21:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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Work on Ryan Grant

Thank you for handling the GA issues on Ryan Grant: much appreciated! :) AllynJ (talk | contribs) 23:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

"Logo"

How does it look? - Milk's Favorite Cookie 21:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Packers pics

Please make sure the pictures you add to player articles actually are of those players. Your recent addition to David Martin (American football) was not David Martin.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 22:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Um, Go Me?

I recognized my first non-violation username! :P -WarthogDemon 03:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Now if only there was some way to show edits of not tagging CSDs. :P I have been more precarious about it. -WarthogDemon 03:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant! I started with yours. -WarthogDemon 04:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

"Not blatant"

I'd think calling yourself "Proxy User" was a textbook violation of the username policy. Sceptre ^(talk) 03:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the invite! However, if I were to join I would be inactive. I primarily work on heavy metal music articles, so I am not familiar with the comprehensivness of football articles. I thank you very much for the invite though. I was sad when Favre announced his retirement. :( Burningclean _[speak] 03:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again. I kind of guessed he would retire soon, even so it is a shock. I think it is safe to say he is the greatest QB of all time! Burningclean _[speak] 03:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Ssh

Done very carefully so as not to be seen immediately. :P -WarthogDemon 05:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh Misza finds a way. :P I just make it so it's clearly the Bot's fault. BEWARE THE BOT! -WarthogDemon 05:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

And on the subject of usernames, how about his user: User:Matthew@voorsanger.net. Is email usernames against policy or only discouraged? -WarthogDemon 05:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

On second thought, nevermind. It's been around here for more than three years. :P -WarthogDemon 05:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Why, yes, I use SSH almost every day. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I am VERY slow . . . it took me 2 minutes to figure out he meant the section header. :P -WarthogDemon 05:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Unblock Request

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RfA Thanks

A message from WarthogDemon.

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ngeeann

This is in response to your queries. Yes, the "ngeeann" is for our NON-PROFIT ORGANISATION. "We" is indeed as you mentioned a group of people. And all of us are the staff of the Secretariat, fully authorised to key in the information. We are the owners of the copyright, and you as an admin supposed to verify and not blindly delete. Now you have caused inconvenience to the mass public who is beneficiaries of our charitable organisation. Wikipedia is a encyclopedia and because of your deletion of our mandarin version of the Ngee Ann Kongsi article, you have effectively marginalised the people who cant understand English. Do you understand Chinese in the first place? If you dont, please do not just delete. Thank you. I hope you replace the article in question and hence does not cause inconvenience to Singapore's public. Our scholarships and bursaries awards are around the corner and the many Chinese-educated parents need the information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngeeann (talk • contribs) 09:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Chicago Bears head coaches

Does this have enough support votes to be closed? It's just that I want to go ahead with a FTC. Thanks, - Milks Favorite Cookie 21:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Strike that. - Milks Favorite Cookie 22:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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Recent page protection

Please restore text of Lisa Graham Keegan to 22:12, 31 March 2008. that will undo the recent vandalism. Thanks. WildGooseWest (talk) 23:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Carolina Panthers seasons

Hello, you recently reviewed Carolina Panthers seasons for WP:FLC. I believe all of the issues are complete for this FLC. If you have time, could you please review the article once more. Thanks, PGPirate 12:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Mr W H

Dear Gonzo: As you have deleted Mr W H I would like to say that I disagree with your reasoning. How will knowledge increase if you nip it in the bud. There are many people curious about the identity of Mr W H and I believe it might make an interesting topic if it were allowed to grow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alyxsylvr (talk • contribs) 15:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidate

Any chance you could withdraw the FLC List of football clubs in England by major honours won? There's too much work to do on it, at this stage. Peanut4 (talk) 19:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow. That was quick. Thanks. Peanut4 (talk) 19:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Declined speedy on Image:GoldOoTn64Cart.jpg

I was wondering why you declined the speedy delete request on Image:GoldOoTn64Cart.jpg. I tagged it because the author tagged the image as being low-resolution, while it is clearly very high resolution (945x612). Voyaging^(talk) 22:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for lowering the resolution, I didn't even think to do that. Voyaging^(talk) 01:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

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Request for page protections

I hope I'm not putting you through your paces with the requests for page protection :) Gary King (talk) 19:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've never had a semiprotection declined yet, so I hope I'm doing more good than harm ;) Gary King (talk) 19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm actually surprised to see a lot of the articles I reported were not previously protected, considering their nature. Most of them appear to be WWII-Axis related. Gary King (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[3] Gary King (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Uh, sorry for that then :p Take a 5 minute break then come back and protect some more! :D Gary King (talk) 20:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. We made a good tag team :) Gary King (talk) 20:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for Page Protection Removal

Request that you revisit Fitna Film decision, the only vandalism tag was addressed to a member. I reverted myself in error and restored. I think a quick query on the need for protection to the Fitna Discussion page will find that the current editorial community for the article sees no need. There is no perception of any issues with those currently contributing to it.75.57.165.180 (talk) 19:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry there has been way too much vandalism in the past couple weeks, there needs to be a break. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

? Would it not be necessary precondition of protection that at the very least those involved in editing the article would at a minimum perceive a need for it?75.57.165.180 (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

What? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

If no member of the community editing the article - and therefore the same people reverting Vandalism, thinks there is a problem, then how can a problem exist? There are only 3 instances in the last 24 hours - the last over 2 hours ago.75.57.165.180 (talk) 19:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It's not just you, it is the history of the article, including the many other bad edits that occurred on the page. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 20:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Not just me? I am included in the basis for Protection? Or do I misinterpret your phrasing75.57.165.180 (talk) 20:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No, not including your edits, there has been 12 vandalism reverts within the last 50 changes. Your explanation makes sense, it really had nothing to do with you. Sorry if there was any confusion. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 20:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Patrick T. McHenry

This is more of an FYI than anything else... did you intend to lock this page with speculation from a blog on it? Personally, I'm not sure if the page should have the info or not on it but regardless, I'm surprised you locked it in that state.--Dr who1975 (talk) 19:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protection of Scotland

Hi there, the level of anonymous IP vandalism doesn't really seem high on the Scotland article, only three edits this evening? Earlier today User:20.133.0.13 (semi-regular editor to the article) was engaging in an edit war, however they have since been blocked. Thanks/wangi (talk) 20:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, there have been 45 edits of Scotland today, 14 of which have been reverts or undo's and looking back on the past 10 days, there is a lot of anonymous vandalism, so I believe that a 2 week break will help to deter the vandalism. Cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 22:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Gonzo fan; thing is most of those edits/reverts are in a content disagreement I'm in the middle of trying to mediate. The number of "real" anonymous IP vandal edits is minimal. Semi-protection will not have any effect on 95%+ of the editors involved in the content dispute should they break out again (things are looking hopeful though) — full protection or blocking of users would be required. The Scotland article has a history of no semi-protection being applied — this is the first time. The article is on a vast number of watchlists and vandal edits are normally reverted very quickly. I do not want to bar well intentioned IP editors from working on this article. Thanks/wangi (talk) 22:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Don't worry, if it needs full protection I'll protect it myself. Thanks/wangi (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Blink-182

Hi. I don't understand why you semi-protected Blink-182. You state "anon-vandalism" when there really has been no vandalism. Editors reverting narca's edits mislabeled them as vandalism. They were in good faith. Also, there really has been no anon vandalism at all. I suggest you unprotect this because it didn't need protection in the first place. Timmeh! 23:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

My RFA has closed

My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence § t/e 18:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi Gonzo. Thank you for granting me the rollback ability. I will definitely look into it. Cheers. Maple Leaf (talk) 15:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Gonzo sorry for the late reply but want to say thanks for giving me rollback rights, and will read more about rollback, Thanks again!--Pookeo9 (talk) 22:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wow!

Thanks, I do what I can to help out around here, but the Featured Lists are just a side project — my main goal is to continue to improve my understanding of policy and as I said in my RFA, I intend on helping out by fighting vandalism, but by starting out conservatively. If you don't mind, I'd like to reach you in a few months time if and when I am submitted for another RFA, before the actual nomination, so I can get an honest assessment from you :) I enjoyed that RFA because now I know what I have to improve, and I'm well aware that article contribution ISN'T one of those things! :p Gary King (talk) 07:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the questions, I don't see what the big deal is for everyone, but I guess that's because that was the first time I actually went through the process myself. It wasn't really that overwhelming at all, but I have indeed seen some RFAs with 5 or less questions. Gary King (talk) 08:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I notice that you have a few WP:FLs under your belt, which I guess was why you were at WP:FLC. Funny how I keep bumping into the same administrators every so often. I've seen Pedro (talk · contribs) around a fair bit, too. Gary King (talk) 08:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

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The protection

You're welcome! Acalamari 23:46, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Image deletion

Thanks for quickly deleting this image. I have used this photographer's images. He is strict with usage, but generous to those who use his images in their stated purpose with his permission. Sorry if I didn't quite get the instructions correct. --Blechnic (talk) 06:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

My mistake, it appears you are not the only one who does not know what I am talking about. I am trying to get an image deleted. I watched the image deletion log and saw what appeared to be an entry listing you deleting the image. I am pretty sure, though, that I did the tag wrong, or something. Any chance you could explain what to do? This image File:Loch Lomond button celery.jpg isa copyright violation. The web page it was taken from[4] allows academic and personal use of thumbnails, but Wikipedia is neither academic nor personal use, and the image uploaded to Commons is not the thumbnail. The uploaded image (higher resolution, non-thumbnail) strictly requires explicit permission for any and all uses.

"This photo and associated text may not be used except with express written permission from California Native Plant Society. To obtain permission for personal, academic, commercial, or other uses, or to inquire about high resolution images, prints, fees, or licensing, or if you have other questions, contact California Native Plant Society njensen[AT]cnps.org."\\

The article says the image is used "courtesy of California Native Plant Society/Rick York," but the permission, again, is explicitly for the thumbnail. The thumbnail is in the article, but the uploaded image, which it clicks to on Wikipedia and Commons, is the higher resolution.

The image should be speedy deleted ASAP. The page is not created, using the recommended tag does not allow for a reason, then creates a page saying no reason for deletion is given. It's not followable.

Thanks for any assistance you can offer, particularly if you can just take care of the matter (if you know how) as I have to go to work in a few hours. --Blechnic (talk) 07:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. I can figure most of Wikipedia out just by copying code from other pages, using categories from the previews, but this one was beyond me. So you did delete the page. I sorta figured out it had to be deleted on Commons, but I thought that was in addition. I created a Commons account so I can deal with the issue in the future. Very confusing. --Blechnic (talk) 01:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for help with Image:Image001.gif--Toddy1 (talk) 06:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting that interesting comment left on my talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: They amuse me. Funny how this one found my cartoon friend. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem for jumping in on Daedalus969's comment. It doesn't bother me, although one of your comments about me is going to give me a fat head. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Thank you, I try. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for reverting that misplaced comment on my user page. Testing reaction time... sure... uh huh. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: Yeah, him and his friend User:Cheesecakelolz stopped. They were both on their last warnings. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

User name

Question: Who/What inspired your username? RC-0722 ^247.5/1 01:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Me and Burner were wondering about the "Gonzo" part. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 03:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah. RC-0722 ^247.5/1 03:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

re: my name

Thanks, but why I am on ur watchlist? LOL. The Anti-Vandalism King (talk) 04:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Ooooh lol. Nice, so can u ban all those dirtbags vandalizing UFC 83 or page protect UFC 83? The Anti-Vandalism King (talk) 04:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's cleaned up now, thanks anyways. It was a great PPV though. The Anti-Vandalism King (talk) 04:56, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA

I have accepted. Thanks for the reminder (I guess I got too caught up with the questions.) STORMTRACKER 94 ^{Go Irish!} 22:54, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Excellent

Excellent summary of things here. Hopefully he'll get it now...John Reaves 20:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Re: your efforts to aid in deleting offensive material from editing history. I read others' comments before your final reply and wonder how one is supposed to protect the article (Heath Ledger) from continued abuse from vandals who use log-in identities. Please reply either here or in the Incident section discussion. (Going offline.) --NYScholar (talk) 04:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand your question, but I'll take a shot at it. The only way to truly protect articles from vandals would be protecting the article from editing. The sad thing is though, that the belief behind Wikipedia is "the encyclopedia anyone can edit." This means that we as administrators should only use page protection as a last resort, where a certain article is getting consistent vandalism from many different IPs/users and it is no longer economical to just block the accounts. This leads to another way an article can be protected from vandals, is when a user/IP has vandalized and been warned, then they can be reported to WP:AIV where administrators will quickly review the situation and if necessary block the offending accounts. Another way to clean-up after vandalism is the use of deletion (what I did). This involves deleting the whole page, and then restoring all the revisions except those that have offensive edit summaries. Hopefully this process will be easier in the future when the developers implement single-revision deletion, where admins can delete just one revision, instead of deleting the whole page. Another clean-up method is oversight, which is the technical ability to hide certain revisions from the view of basically everyone on Wikipedia. This is only used in cases where the comments are potentially libelous, or where personal, identifiable information is released, or in other last-resort cases. There are also other technical ways to help prevent vandalism, but per WP:BEANS it is best not to release that. I hope I have answered your question. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 04:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and your welcome :-) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 04:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:EAgamesT

So this needs to be taken to TfD? It's a template for a WikiProject that itself was CSD'd. Wouldn't that satisfy g6? (Same goes for Template:WW EAgames) xenocidic (talk) 19:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

oh, goody, awb work! I'll let you know when I'm finished. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 19:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Done, and done. Thanks! xenocidic (talk) 19:52, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

User:75.73.250.67

Since you're open to trout-slapping, I thought you might be the best to ask about this one. It appears to have been created by a logged in user, for some reason (and is a copy of User:Godgiven Love). I'm not really sure if it belongs. MfD, or leave it, or? xenocidic (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I think I'll just let sleeping dogs lie - I just wasn't sure if IP users were allowed to maintain such large userpages - especially when they weren't created by the IP itself. Cheers, xenocidic (talk) 22:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Always editing late?

Wow, I always see you up editing late. Don't tell me you're in a North American timezone at this hour... Gary King (talk) 08:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I beat you then in terms of lateness because I'm in Toronto ;) Gary King (talk) 08:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Reponse

No problem, I thought that everyone who has closed nominations should have a chance to decide. As for myself, I am unsure as to whether I will run or not although I'm leaning towards not at the moment. I'm basically waiting to see what some of the others do, then I'll decide. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 18:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Null edits

Just wondering what their purpose is. Inquisitive only, not being snooty. - Dudesleeper / Talk 03:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

One purpose is to force a refresh any transclusions that may be cached. xenocidic (talk) 03:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied on the talk page, but basically what Xenocidic said (in a heck of a lot less words :-) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 03:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. I was guilty on all counts. - Dudesleeper / Talk 03:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Please

Hi, thank you so much for offering your help, if you could do that i'd greatly appreciate it. I have no problems adding websites, are the websites i need to add things like - roster pages etc? I'll add a whole bunch of things - if i add them , is that my specified evidence? I'd love for you to do what you have offered for me, i can make changes to it and not be mad that it's been deleted.

Thanks again, i owe you one.

Kev =]

Kevizzle (talk) 09:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for giving me the page back. I've added a few links - the main link i wanted to add was a 1PW roster link, which, unfortunately is down. The 1PW site is running though, 1PW on wikipedia lists Juggernaught as an active wrestler. I added a roster page of another wrestling company he wrestle for, look at the wrestlers pics and you'll see him. The reason i linked 1PW was that if you search for him, you'll get results and the DVDs that are on sale, most feature him. Also added GPW match results - which you can see pics of him form April 4th. Is this sufficient enough evidence?

Thanks

Kev =]

Kevizzle (talk) 10:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. But can i have my page back please?

Just give me time and i can prove that The Juggernaught is worthy of being put in here - considering his partner is on here and Juggernaught's name is listed on the 1PW wikipedia as an active roster member.

Please, let me have the page back and i'll get back to you when i have the info.

Thanks

Kev

Kevizzle (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of The Political Quarterly

Hi. I noticed that you speedy deleted The Political Quarterly under A7. I'm not sure A7 should have applied since the criteria state "A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on", and this is a journal after all. Moreover, I do think that the journal is important enough to have an article, although this may not have been clear from the existing article. Would you object to me writing a new article? Cordless Larry (talk) 14:01, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

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Afghanistan

Hi! As I do not understand basically anything about how Wikipedia really works, I wonder whether I can be held responsible for the protection of Afghanistan (changed protection level for "Afghanistan" ‎(content dispute [edit=sysop:move=sysop])) . Did I do something wrong when I rewrote Dari instead of Persian there and there, when I added this link or when I left a message to SwatiAfridi / Beh-nam / Tajik007?
What's more, I can't understand what sysop and protection (as I can't see any 'padlock' or warning anywhere) mean.
I'd have a couple of technical and some general questions to put , but I do not know whom to ask…

Thanks forward for helping. ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 22:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Many, many thanks for your answer.

I Already tried to put the questions I wanted to ask where you told me to do so, but either the answers came rather late (though I can understand that you administrators are really busy with a whole bunch of tasks) or never. The last example is just one of them. That's essentially why I (unsuccessfully) asked to be 'adopted'. I will ask you directly in the near future.

Have a nice time, wherever you live! ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 23:29, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

PS: Oh! I finally saw the lock and the warning post at Afghanistan…

NFL first round picks

The problem is I don't know how to control the background without messing up the font. Meet at template talk.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I see you have reverted everything. You should have at least put a see also for the template that you pointed out.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that half the boxes used the {{navbox}} and those were O.K. The other half used the {{CFB navbox}} and the font colors got messed up on those. I should have just done the half with the navbox. But yes the proper thing to do is to put a see also to the template you mentioned at the bottom. I think it is possible that if instead of using the code I just slapped the template in without all the below stuff it would have looked O.K. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: 10000!

Re your message: Congrats! I hadn't seen that tool before. Interesting and very fast. I use this one, but after a certain point, it takes a ridiculously long time to run. Nice job, now get back to work. ;) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/PoinDexta1

Please review the correct way to close RFAs as a non-bureaucrat. You are supposed to mention that you, as a non-crat, made the snow closure. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries, you made a fine closure either way;that RFA had no chance, I'm afraid. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 09:37, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

List of Steelers coaches

I revised the intro, maybe you take another look. I, suprisingly, cannot find an article about how Cowher/Noll were one of the longest (even the longest?) back-to-back coaching duos in sports. I agree that would be worth mentioning, but I won't add it until I find a source. I'm gonna add citations to the "awards" column now. Thanks! Blackngold29 15:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Hart (poet)

This article was stubbed and semi-protected by admin Hesperian, who seems to think he can read the minds of editors. By his own admission he knows nothing at all of the topic, yet he thinks he is qualified to make sound judgments concerning what is appropriate here. I request that the article by unprotected, that the stub be reverted, and that Hesperian be asked to stop abusing his authority.

Declined This is not the place to review administrators actions, nor am I going to revert the stubbing and protection of an
article because of WP:BLP concerns. Please take it to the protecting administrators talk page or the discussion page for the
article in question. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 07:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC) 

I've done that. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Kevin_Hart_.28poet.29 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hesperian/Archive_30#K_hart Hesperian has violated WP principles by stubbing and protecting an article that is not being vandalized. If you look at his/her talk page, you will see he/she has a long history of abusing the authority of the admin's position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.14.119 (talk • contribs)

My main point is that WP:RFPP is not the right board to review administrative actions. I declined the protection because there was no need for it to be unprotected. WP:BLP is one of the most important policies on Wikipedia, and if an administrator stubs and protects an article because the article lacks neutrality enough to be a WP:BLP concern, that I nor any other administrator will undo the action. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 23:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Questionable block on UAA

I see you've recently made several username blocks. Most of them were good, but I don't think your block of User:P3t3rp33nw3ntzxc0r3 was supported by the username policy, especially in light of this part:

If your username or your signature is unnecessarily confusing, editors may request that you change it. However, confusing usernames are unlike the disallowed usernames above because a confusing username cannot be so inappropriate on its own that it requires an immediate block without at least an attempt at substantive discussion.

Also, the user had not made any contributions, so there was no way to establish if he was editing in good faith or not; using UAA is discouraged in that situation. People who name themselves in "l33t" are not an immediate threat to Wikipedia. There were better ways to handle this. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 05:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Ninni Morgia

Hiya. Please don't take offense but I've declined to speedy the above. It just misses A7 in my view. I'd strongly recommend you take it to WP:AFD though - let me know if you need any help on that. Cheers. Pedro :  Chat  07:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry dude, didn't look - I take it you didn't delete yourself to get another pair of eyes? Sorry!!! Pedro :  Chat  07:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Heh, cheers! How silly do I feel! Re: the afd help - It's sort of a stock line from me, as saying to less experienced editors "take it to AFD" can leave them baffled on the process. See what a good admin I am, not biting the newbies experienced admins ..... :) Pedro :  Chat  08:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Samlifted.jpg

Cheers for giving me time to reply to the issue with the copyright tag , you must of left it tagged as such for 4 whole minutes Gnevin (talk) 10:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

And what of images what where uploaded correctly and under good faith only to be changed by the "copyright holder" . I say "copyright holder" as i fail to see how someone can release an image as cc-by-2.0 for example and then claim all right reserved Gnevin (talk) 23:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you reply here Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Speedy_deletion_of_flicker_imagesGnevin (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied there. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 23:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the link ,Sorry if I was a little short in my first message Gnevin (talk) 12:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: RE:User talk:Runescape111

I usually do, not sure what happened there. However, I'm not sure that it matters. - Rjd0060 (talk) 13:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Atlanta Falcons head coaches

 Done Milk’s Favorite Cookie ^(Talk) 20:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 22:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

 Done (again) Milk’s Favorite Cookie ^(Talk) 22:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

RFPP

Got it, thanks for your note. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 22:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Overhaul of FL criteria

I've re-started the process here and am notifying the four candidates for director as well as advertising at FLC talk and FAC talk. Your input would be valued. TONY (talk) 05:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya think...

someone is going to object to the symbol used? ( † ) I mean, I wouldn't be surprised 'round here... :-( Shenme (talk) 06:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

logjam

Gonzo, thanks for your note. I'll get to it later; got clients and the FLC overhaul to cope with tonight. TONY (talk) 09:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

List of Atlantic Coast Conference football champions

Wanted to say thanks again for making the tables in that article sortable; table syntax is not my strong suit by a long shot. I was wondering (if you have the time) if you could make a few comments on that article's FLC. I'm always trying to get more content featured, but I need commenters and supporters to make it happen. It'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 21:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I've made changes that should address all your concerns. If you've got the time, feel free to take another look and see if I did good by you. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your support! Let me know if you ever need a reviewer or anything else that I might be able to help with. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

RFPP

heh. I hadn't formally declined the request because I wanted to see if the IP editor had actually stopped (after a run of about 10 edits). It appears that the second warning dropped on the IP talk page deterred him, though. Horologium (talk) 22:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: LOL and email

Re your message: Sorry. ;) No problem on the email. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Glass Gonzos?!

Oh Snap! Sorry. I'll note that on the page. -- Avi (talk) 05:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Too late, I already apologized :) -- Avi (talk) 05:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Packers HoF

I'll see what I can do...! The Rambling Man (talk) 06:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

No, not yet, I'm still around for a bit, just getting ready so can't guarantee my attendance necessarily. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

The Tractor Boys... The Rambling Man (talk) 06:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

"Winning" but crap seasons for us both then! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

List of Korean War Medal of Honor recipients

Hello, could you please take a look at this article and tell me if I need to make any adjustments. I know that it still needs comments on a few but other than that I think its good.--Kumioko (talk) 17:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

IP-block-exempt

May I ask why you gave your alternate account IP-block exempt?

02:17, May 9, 2008 Gonzo fan2007 (Talk | contribs | block) changed rights for User:Gonzo fan2007-Public from rollbacker to rollbacker, ipblock-exempt, accountcreator ‎ (my public account)

It does not fall into one of the two main reasons at Wikipedia:IPEXEMPT#Requesting_and_granting_exemption and it looks rather questionable for an admin to be giving another known account of their's a right that would permit it to evade autoblocking. MBisanz ^talk 04:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Well actually on IRC some people suggested I just remove the right and leave you a note, I figured asking was AGFing better than assuming it could be up to no good and just acting. The primary concern I have about ANY admin granting it to a declare alternate account, is that if that admin had undeclared, abusive socks, that were blocked for disruption, having IPblock-exempt would permit the declared alternate accounts to continue to edit through the autoblocker. And if someone isn't currently hitting a rangeblock, keeping them unflagged will keep the userright's list smaller and more monitorable. MBisanz ^talk 04:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Nah, I'll just leave it, thankfully I'm not crazy about assuming admins are socking (I worry about enough users as it is), and right now there are only 4 accounts on the listuser, so size isn't an issue. MBisanz ^talk 04:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Email

I just sent you the email.--Urban Rose 03:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I replied. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 04:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Sent you a copy of the email I sent to Iridescent.--Urban Rose 04:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:RPP

The page is going to get avalanched in a bit. Feel free to do some, like last time :p Gary King (talk) 06:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Gonzo Fan!!! With regards to the 1956 and 1957 Green Bay Packers seasons, I wanted your opinion please. Under the heading of season schedule, I have introduced two different styles. Do you prefer the style for Season Schedule in 1956 or 1957? Thanks for your time. Cheers! Maple Leaf (talk) 11:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Rfb participation thanks

Hi, Gonzo.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. Once again, thank you for your early support, and I once again apologize for mistaking you for a borosilicate viper :) -- Avi (talk) 16:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Chile article

Is it possible for you to please semi-protect the article on Chile again? The protection has recently expired and since that period the vandalism has been alarming. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.6.21 (talk) 00:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

 Done « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 06:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Signature

The code for your signature should read exactly like this:

[[user:kennedy|<span style="color:#800000;">'''← κεηηε∂γ'''</span>]] ^{([[user_talk:kennedy|<span style="color:#800000;">shout at me</span>]])}

which will render ← κεηηε∂γ ^{(shout at me)}. Hope this helps. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 07:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your help. Got it working now. Had to add " before and after the hex value though, confused me for a sec. Thanks alot! ← κεηηε∂γ ^{(shout at me)} 07:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Qantas fatal accidents

I think you're right, but I'm going to give the nominator a day or so to see if he is going to bother trying to catch up with the opposition. And any help you could offer is more than welcome, as always we need reviewers, and if you want to take a look at the proposed criteria changes at WP:WIAFL, it would really help out. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 13:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for unprotection of The Weather Channel...

However, could you please watchlist it. Seems there are trolls that like to put "Current mets." in the former category. They seem to be clasifying Madden and Lopez as former, when they are not. Thanks Leon harrison (talk) 18:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome, and I will. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 20:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Warren might have qualified as "Freelance", but heck, every time I flip to that channel(rarely) he's on. Overworked might be the right category for him. Leon harrison (talk) 21:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured list question

You previously supported my FLC of the List of Pittsburgh Steelers head coaches. I'm a little confused as to why it was removed, There were two supports (yours included) and a "mild oppose", along with suggestions from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs). I fixed Rambling Man's suggestions, but he never responded to them, even after I left two messeges on his talk page. I guess I went over the limit of days on the Canidate list, but it would have been promoted with his support, right? So should I just re-nominate it? Thanks! Blackngold29 00:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers template

Hi, Gonzo fan2007. fyi, I rolled up my sleeves and been working on converting the nfl franchise templates to the {{Navbox}} format standardization for footer templates. Take a look at {{Green Bay Packers}} as I just finished that one and saw your comment on the talk page. --Gwguffey (talk) 03:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for looking it over. I hear what you are saying about the flow of the old design and don't disagree. The benefit is definitely more in terms of the collapsibility and uniformity of presentation when working with other footer templates than it is from visual layout. As we enter the "marination phase" of the NFL template transition, now would be a great time for folks to play around with the content, arrangement and features of the Navbox. Maybe someone will come up with something brilliant that could be incorporated into the whole set. Drop me a line if you have any additional thoughts. The NFC ones are done, off to start on the AFC.... --Gwguffey (talk) 13:30, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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Email

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Compromsied account

Recently on #wikipedia-en on IRC there was a report by a user that they took over someone else's account by stealing their password. It seems there are no active admins on IRC right now and StatusBot showed you to be recently active. I've messaged 4 admins including you and was wondering if if you would mind looking into User:rory096's claims. Thanks! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do. This is urgent. CWii_{(Talk|Contribs)} 03:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Guess some people need to know when to stop when it's text. They were all SHOUTING for an answer. lol. Thanks again. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:51, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Ding!

I sent you email. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Received, and replied. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 04:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:FLC comment

After your comment, I couldn't resist :p Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 05:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Okay, well, yeah, this rollback is not bad. Thanks. Unschool (talk) 04:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

WT:BOWN

I reverted your unexplained removal of a BAG nominee notification from this page, note this reversion is only due to the fact that it was unexplained (possibly by accident?) if you feel the content does not belong and want to edit it out, please make use of a descriptive edit summary. Thank you, — xaosflux ^Talk 02:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Rollback sure is easier, but as this wasn't obvious (to me at least) as "blatantly nonproductive" text, thus why I re-reverted. Thanks for the speedy reply, and again if you want to remove it again feel free (no 3RR strike count from me!). — xaosflux ^Talk 02:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Hi, could you please move Shillelagh (disambiguation) to Shillelagh? I was moving some pages and messed up. Thanks. Feezo (Talk) 04:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Image de-speedyings

Hello, I don't particularly like it when a fellow admin "declines" a properly argued speedy tag of mine without so much as a word of justification, as you did at Image:Ep01 tony.jpg. Please note that you are not really in a position to "decline" anything here; I see no reason why I couldn't still make the speedy decision myself. Which I will do, unless I actually hear a rationale from you why you think this image does not obviously fail NFCC#8, in which case I'll sigh and take it through the waste of time and work that is WP:IFD.

By the way, at Image:Marcellus Lovejoy Stearns gv000508.jpg, which you also "declined" without so much as a word of reasoning, you missed a very compelling deletion rationale on the talk page; it was in fact a clear-cut I9. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but you are mistaken about policy: I tagged it, not because I wished to hand off responsibility, but because I have to, because this particular speedy criterion is bound to a notification period. Of course, I have no problem with somebody else then making a decision – if that decision is argued for. That's all I'm asking. If somebody goes to the trouble of arguing why something should happen (in this case, deletion), it means disrespect to their work if somebody else then drops by and thinks they can just literally wipe out that work without a word of explanation.

I'm now a bit undecided if I'll take it to IfD or just still go ahead with my own speedy, because I still haven't heard a policy-conformant reason from you why you think it should be kept. "Others have not thought it should be deleted" is not an argument. "The uploader wrote a rationale" is not an argument either, if that rationale is obviously a piece of worthless boilerplate that doesn't even refer to the image and its function individually. Speedy deletion, according to policy, in fact is for images that have rationales when those rationales are bad. Seriously, I'd like to hear your opinion, not about process but about the image. Do you think that image is keepable? Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, IfD it is then. Now that you've provided a reason, I obviously respect that. I must still correct you on matters of policy though: (1) Me speedying it at this point would still not be wheel-warring, because not performing a speedy doesn't constitute a binding admin decision like closing an XfD, there's never been a rule that a second admin couldn't speedy something just because somebody else didn't; (2) speedy deletion of bad fair use images does not exclude old uploads; in fact the criterion explicitly includes them; (3) the CSD explicitly talks of images that fail "any part of the non-free content criteria"; like it or not, this includes the subjective #8. In fact, I routinely speedy such cases, and don't remember ever having been overturned at DRV. – And I would still ask you that in future if you decline a speedy proposed in good faith and with serious arguments by an editor in good standing, you provide at least a hint at a reasoning, before people have to request one. Fut.Perf. ☼ 01:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I commented on this on Future's talk page. DGG (talk) 13:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments

See, now that's the first and only constructive comment I've had all day. What you said actually made sense. What the mob said did not, nor did it feel like it was in good faith like User:Gary King's comments. GreenJoe 19:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Nice way to talk about me when I'm unaware. Anyways, as I replied on my own talk page, I was assuming good faith. I decided to bring to light something that others might not be aware of. Others, from the linked discussion, are clearly amused by some strange behavior, and from my observations, it appears that there is a pattern to these actions. Gary King (talk) 02:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Your dispute and protection posts on the Feng Shui page

Hello,

Per your instructions: "please discuss changes and reach a consensus. using TW"

I have tried to utilized the warning page of Twinkle to communicate with the user Cbramble.

I have used Twinkle before with this user and it worked successfully. Since the protection and dispute of the page, when I submit the post it does not show up in her user page or her talk page.

I have submitted my discussion on her talk page via the new section tab.

What else would you suggest?

--Sedonafengshui (talk) 21:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Kudos

Re your message: Thanks. =) I think I need a new mouse and keyboard. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Lists with small scopes

I've opened a discussion at WT:FLC#Nominations of lists with small scopes regarding the Head coaches lists. Feel free to join in. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 08:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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Lindsay Lohan

Hi, im new here...and i cant edit protected pages until my account is 4 days old..so, can u do these small changes to the Lindsay Lohan article that i think is necessary for the page......thank you....since your not accepting to unprotect the page, then the least you can do is the following on my behalf...

In the infobox, it says Casablanca (2005 - 2007) that should be changed to Casablanca (2004 - 2007) cause lohan signed with Casablanca in 2004...[5] ................

In the Acting Career , there is

• 2.1 Early career
• 2.2 Career 'developement' <<<< [First, notice in the article that the word development is written wrong) (Second, i think this one should be named "Breakthrough success and Career development"
• 2.3 Return to acting

................ A new section should be created, it should be named "Other activities"

and in that section, put the following: Lohan is the new face for Visa Swap [6] ..................... Labor pains should be added in the Filmography section, cause it already started filming.....[7] 213.42.23.71 (talk) 15:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I have fixed the typo for you, but the other changes all seem to be at least a little controversial, especially in regards to the reply you got on the article's talk page. When you get autoconfirmed, then feel free to edit the article, this of course doesn't mean that you won't get reverted. I would continue to use the talk page and try and get a consensus for your changes. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 19:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Help desk revert

Ah, thanks for reverting that. I usually put the date in everyday because the bot usually puts the new date in 25-30 minutes when the new day arrives. I'm watching the help desk and I wen t to the help desk through the link on my watchlist and it was actually tha talk page since that was where the last edit was made in the help desk. My mistake. -- RyRy5 (talk) 00:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Gonzo, for saying that I do well at the help desk. By the way, I think your active sometimes at The Test Wiki. Do you think Wikirights would be a good place to be also? -- RyRy5 (talk) 00:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for joining. Well, back to Wikipedia related things. What do you think of WP:UPH and baseball uniform? -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding WP:UPH, I just wanted to know what you thought of users assisting other users in renovating their user pages. That's all. :) I'm one of the only active users there though. -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Gonzo fan. --RyRy5 (talk) 01:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

watchlist

Thanks, I replied at Template_talk:Watchlist-notice#Multiple_watchlist_messages. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Undo full protection of List of characters in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess?

Hello Gonzo fan2007. There is a request at WP:RFPP to undo the full protection on this article. I know little about it, except that Darkest-Link33 and Thetriforcehero have been indef blocked for puppetry. That might decrease the amount of edit warring there. Since you did the protection so recently, I thought I'd leave a note for you instead of unprotecting it myself. EdJohnston (talk) 03:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. (Search for 'Zelda' if you want to see the request at RFP; a link doesn't seem to work). I reduced it to semi-protection. EdJohnston (talk) 03:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU

Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Wikipedia:Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 17:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Any thoughts?

On List of Oakland Raiders head coaches. Because I'm hoping to get this to FL status. Buc (talk) 21:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Nominated. Buc (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Review

Hello again Gonzo fan. Do you mind reviewing my last 500 contributions or so. I think you mentioned that you would take a look at my contributions yesterday. --RyRy5 (talk) 06:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Erm, okay, I think.:s --RyRy5 (talk) 06:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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		For taking the time to review my editing, guiding me to the positives and negatives I have done, and showing me how and what I can continue and start to improve from them, I RyRy5, award « Gonzo fan2007 the Guidance Barnstar. Thank you! :D It is very much appreciated. Regards, RyRy5 (talk) 23:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleting duplicate Images

You deleted File:A6M3 Model32.jpg as an exact duplicate of an image on commons as Wikipedia:CSD#I8 - unfortunatley the original image was still in use at A6M Zero and had not been renamed, causing the image to disappear from the article. Please check to see if an image is in use in the original name before doing this again.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikirights image?

Um, I just saw you upload File:Wikirights.png on RC. I'm curious of what it is.--RyRy5 (talk) 07:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it looks pretty good. Do you want me to add it? Well, in a few minutes? (I have something to do per the section above the one you just posted on my talk page) --RyRy5 (talk) 07:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I just need the URL. But you can upload it too. Let's just hope the URL fits the box that I have to put it into... --RyRy5 (talk) 07:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The url is too long by 3 characters. Can you fix that? --RyRy5 (talk) 07:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, just missing the "g." Well, now what? We can't use your logo since it can't fit the "g." --RyRy5 (talk) 08:07, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

You too. Although I'll be ofline for the rest of later today (UTC). --RyRy5 (talk) 08:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It works! Since there's 4 rights at my wiki, there's 4 boxes on the logo which is why I like it. Do you think you can get each box individually? I plan to use 1 of each box as a symbol of one of the 4 rights.--RyRy5 (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Unprotect?

Could you please unprotect WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999 protest activity? Per Talk:WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999 protest activity#Request for comment, I believe we've come to some kind of agreement on things. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Upload

I strongly disagree with your boldness. Obviously there was absolutely no consensus to unprotect the page. There is a difference between being bold, and just going against consensus. You have a whole thread of a bunch of people saying do not unprotect, and you just went and unprotected it. I was tempted to just reprotect it, but I figured I would ask you to readd the protection before I made any actions. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 07:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If we have any sort of problem with the page being semiprotected instead of fully protected, go ahead and increase the protection again. I'm not here to pick a fight. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 07:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

(replying to message on my talk page) - Let me try to clarify this a bit...I understand that not having the interface work is a serious concern. The last thing I want is for uploading files to be even more difficult. We both want the upload form to be open to improvement, we just disagree on how open it can safely be.

I feel that you overestimate the level of damage that can be done to the page. For one thing, only editors who have been around for 4 days and made 10 edits can edit the page. That right there will prevent all the vandalism that Wikipedia talk:Upload has been prone to.

You also stated concern that there might be cross-browser compatibility issues that would need to be tested and addressed. Let me reassure you that the kind of code Wikipedia:Upload uses is well-supported across all browsers, and cross-browser compatibility issues would be as rare on this page as they are on the rest of Wikipedia.

And finally, in the end Wikipedia:Upload is only a frontend to Special:Upload. Even with the worst possible vandalism, Special:Upload itself would still work.

Really though, all I'm asking is that we give semiprotection a shot. We don't have to argue about whether or not it will work. We can actually try it and see, and if it doesn't work then it's back to full protection. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

(replying to message on my talk page) - Honestly I'm rather sick of the issue, I can see it both ways, and I wouldn't care too much if the page went back to full protection. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 18:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I was delighted after reading this week's technology report. Apparently edits from Tor are no longer autoconfirmed. This means that even though Wikipedia:Upload is only semiprotected, it is now Grawp-proof. Grawp previously used Tor in new and exciting ways to evade his blocks, but this will no longer work. Happy editing! —Remember the dot ^(talk) 01:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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Kwong Lee Dow Young Scholars Program

Hello!

I noticed you deleted this page with the reason that it was "Blatant advertising". It is clear to me that you don't want inferior work as such on Wikipedia, but is it so bad that it can't be fixed and must be deleted? What is wrong with documenting a scholarship program? After all, is the Rhode_Scholar article not a scholarship program? Why is that one not classified as "Blatant advertising"?

Perhaps could we work on the KLDYSP article to make it more informative as to advertising, rather than deleting the page altogether?

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NFL head coaches MOS querry

Does the "present" for the current need to be in italics? Buc (talk) 07:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

An FLC you reviewed a few days ago

Hi there! I know that you haven't commented on my FLC for a few days now, so could you please review Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Merriam-Webster's Words of the Year for another time? Thanks!--Dem393 (talk) 03:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

FBI Most Wanted

Hi. Good work on the edits, it looks pretty good now. If I had known it was that easy I might have posted my concerns on the article's talk page, but I wasn't sure who has it watchlisted. It will probably stay on WP:FLRC for the full two weeks so that other people can comment. Note that due to COI it won't be me who closes it though. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The pictures make a good addition. While we're not here to support the FBI in their investigations, it helps the reader picture the circumstances a little, rather than having a John Doe image in their minds as they read the page. And it might not get saved yet.. someone else might come along with an even more valid reason why it should be delisted. But I doubt it ;) Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

PS. Did you know your talk page is messed up.. It has to be horizontally scrolled to read it. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

See Image:Gonzo talk page.JPG. You can speedy delete it afterwards cause it's a copyright page that isn't used on any article page. No point waiting 5 days. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bah, I'm still on Firefox 2 Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

The thread section says it all.— Dædαlus ^Contribs /_Improve 08:53, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for answering that question. I just missed it. I decided to walk away after getting bored from the Derek Acorah vandal. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:O

Whoops! Haha, how coincidental! Sorry about that! :D PeterSymonds (talk) 07:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

TNA Templates

Can I get a reason on why you deleted the TNA PPV temaplates since there was premission to not delete it from a adminatrator and there was a link to them?--WillC 08:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi!, User:LAX said that the templates Lockdown, Bound for Glory, and Slammiversary were to not be deleted because each link were to a single article. Also 23 of 49 TNA PPVs are single articles and probably before the end of the year more than 40 will be singles. And I had the template in articles but it keep getting removed by one person. The guy that keep trying to delete the templates after I said there was permission to create them. The discussion on this is on my talk page. Also the one where there is permission is too, between me and LAX. To tell the truth, I'm not sure the exact reason they are needed. I only made them since WWE PPVs have templates. So I thought if they have a reason then these do as well. As for your last statement, I have no idea what you mean. Also my name is William. I mainly just work on TNA stuff.--WillC 08:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

These templates had not been tagged for long enough to justify speedy deletion. See WP:CSD#T3. ("…after being tagged for seven days.") —Ms2ger (talk) 09:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. You do the same.--WillC 09:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Should I still remove the speedy deletion template and the hangon template as well? Or just leave them to make sure, because of the seven day wait?--WillC 09:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, pleasure doing business with you, I hope I wasn't a bother.--WillC 09:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the help. Hopefully this will be the last of me watching the TNA PPV templates for a while. You do seem like a happy person. I wish we could all be like that. Same to you, happy editing. Before I leave, could you do me one a little favor even though you have done so much for me already? I'm not sure if you ever review articles but I need someone to read a article I wrote and tell me if it sounds right and if it is ready for GA status yet. Do you ever do that type of thing?--WillC 09:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay. yeah I know what you mean. I don't try to take it seriously but sometimes it gets to me. Like with the templates. I was getting mad because I felt he was trying to keep the TNA stuff from getting higher importance. With me seeing this guy work so hard to get these deleted but not doing nothing to the WWE PPV templates. I really want TNA stuff and WWE stuff to be equal. So anything WWE has, I think TNA should. But other than that, I take it like anyone else would. Just go,okay, then ask a question about it. Okay, I just need some feed back on it. Because I left it on the Feed back section on WP:PW for about a week and only got one person to read it. Take your time. I'm about to go to sleep too. I stay up to late. I should have went to bed probably 8 hours ago and didn't. Okay well it is Lockdown (2008) but it is in my Sandox (here). It is almost finished. I've been slow on the event section. I had it wrote already and in the article but I decided to perfect so it can be nominated for GA status. So whatever is done in my sandbox will be what is in the final article. Besides somethings that come up needing to be changed in the review and nomination process.--WillC 10:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Daren, Taitung

Hi, thanks for your deleting Daren, Taitung (signIDlike's space), but please undelete Daren, Taitung, which is a valid article. The problem is signIDlike moved Daren, Taitung to Daren, Taitung (signIDlike's space) as his own place and created a Daren, Taitung (earth) as the township in Taiwan. I moved Daren, Taitung (earth) back to Daren, Taitung and requested to delete Daren, Taitung (signIDlike's space). So please undelete the correct article Daren, Taitung. Thank you. --Neo-Jay (talk) 09:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. SignIDlike recently made lots of troubles in Wikipedia. Now he just created Daren, Taitung (earth) again! Thank you for your attention.--Neo-Jay (talk) 09:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Peer review

Just letting know that Denver Broncos seasons is currently having a PR because I hope to make it a FLC soon. Any feedback would be appreshated. Buc (talk) 10:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hideo Kojima

Actually, at another look of the article, I'm not sure my protection was necessary. I'll be logging out in a minute, but if you or other admins reckon the protection was not necessary, feel free to unprotect. Thanks! Acalamari 19:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Good decision. Thanks! :) Acalamari 20:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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Joe A. Gonsalves Memorial Interchange

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Tzatziki Squad

Yeah, I had a couple of ideas for sports-related lists you and I could work on. That depends, though, on one question: How much do you like hockey? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 22:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'm more of an American football person as well - fan of the Pats. I'm sure I could help on the list, just tell me what you need help on. Also, I've taken care of the comments on the Red Wings FLC. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 22:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Ya, I added it. I think I may have a picture of Reggie White (somewhere...) that I may be able to dig out. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 23:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, would you be able to collaborate with other hockey-related and or football-related (for the few left) "head coaches" lists? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 23:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Should we start with List of Boston Bruins head coaches? I'll add that to the list. It'll need some serious reformatting, but I've done that to Red Wings, and Sabres, and its worth it. Also, List of New York Islanders head coaches recently failed FLC because of math issues. Would you mind going to the reference and verifying the numbers? Most seem to be correct. Tell me what you think. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 23:19, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on Bruins. I expanded List of Calgary Flames head coaches. Now, all it needs is a lead, and we have to "assign" the colors to the coaches based on HOF or if they spent their coaching career with the team. I'll go add the playoff win-losses to Bruins. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, although I consider the Packers lead still short. I wouldn't mind expanding it, but really have no idea what to write. Any ideas? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I wrote the lead for List of Boston Bruins head coaches and took care of the table. Now all we need is the "Achievements" section filled in for the coaches, and we need some references for the lead. Think you can take care of that? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 02:46, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Packers looks great. I think its ready to be nominated. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 16:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Hong Kong Chefs Association Deletion

Curious as to why you chose to move forward and immediately delete without discussion of the points raised?

If HKCA is not sufficiently notable than why is the American Culinary Federation or the World Association of Chefs Societies Articles?

Thanks

Chris (talk) 06:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do a complete revamp during this week to make it more informative and notable and i'll scour the globe (well cyberspace anyway) for 3rd party references and supporting, there is quite a bit out there. Any advice on how to link to pay only news media for footnote purposes?Anyway thanks for the stay, i'll do my best to earn it. Chris (talk) 00:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I have done a bit in the past few days. If you have time, any advice on progress and such would be appreciated, Thanks very mucho. Chris (talk) 01:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

viewing deleted content

Hi,

On Image talk:Rongorongo Z Poike.jpg, you said "if you want to view it or copy it then do so by viewing the deleted cotribs". How do I do that?

Thanks, kwami (talk) 07:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I never noticed that down there under the bottom of the screen. kwami (talk) 20:32, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:AFD/List of Australian television ratings for 2008

Ohai. I don't know if your experienced in closing AfDs, but what do you think of me closing the above as "speedy keep"? Thanks, RyRy (talk) 04:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, yeah, that was awkward. :P I am watch listing User:Philippe so I saw you and I decided to ask you my question since you were online. And no worries about the move, I was going to do that a while ago, but I had no time. And thanks for your compliments (about how I'm doing good and my name change), I like RyRy better. I'll close that AfD right away, and I was wondering if this was a good close. It's amazing how I leave for a few hours and I have 7 new sections on my talk page. :P -- RyRy (talk) 04:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice you know you know the basics at least. I only close AfDs that are at least 5 days old, they have at least 6 reasonable "keep" !votes, not one "delete vote, and that's generally when I close. "Speedy keeps" are a bit different. It's basically the same, but at least 2 or 3 "speedy keep" votes is when I close them as "speedy keep". And thanks for the advice. Oh, and you said that I was "doing good". Could you point out what I was doing good with? Thanks, RyRy (talk) 04:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing those out. And again, like I said to PeterSymonds, I will have to decline. The reason is basically the same. But I just want more time without rollback so I can be absolutely sure I would know how to use it. I wouldn't want to have it revoked now would I. ;) Thanks for the offer, and if I do decide I would like the rollback tool, I'll ask. I'll be back shortly, so if I would reply to your next reply, it may be delayed a bit, not too long though. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 05:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm back, and I will. I see you redesigned your user page. You wanted something simpler, huh. Oh, and i was wondering about this. -- RyRy (talk) 05:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Request administrator review of Bo Burnham

Does this article meet wikipedia requirements?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikifan12345/Bo_Burnham

Comments, criticisms, and suggestions will be appreciated. Thank you Wikifan12345 (talk) 08:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Boing Boing protection = VANDALISM?

Hey there,

I'm confused. Am I being called a vandal for [8]? If so, where are the administrative corrective measures?Yeago (talk) 09:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

To clarify above: I am concerned with the reasoning for the protection of this article—"to deal with Vandalism". The protection reverts a sourced contribution which seems to be inline with WP:RS and WP:Verifiability. If it is not, then some guidance should be provided by an administrator. Vandalism, as I am aware, is for deliberate abuse—I am very concerned if I am being called a deliberate abuser. I've been pretty cool on the talk page at the article about the matter and have been urging discussion. Yeago (talk) 09:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Long Beach Boulevard

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Long Beach Boulevard. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 13:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Concerning the Druze page

• I do respect your action, through protecting the Druze page, and I strongly endorse it. But the edits done by the IP address 77.42.178.249 and 63.216.113.124 currently User:GreenEcho is an indirect vandalism of the page most likely motivated by sectarian hatred ,religious fanaticism and the political rivalry between the Druze community and Hezbollah in Lebanon (Such claims can be observed by other edits by this user).

• I hope the page would be reverted to the Emilyzilch edit because as its obvious that the “user” who requested protection is refusing and refused to use the talk page to discuss the biased information he added specially that his biased edits are now protected.

• I don’t think, that leaving his current edits concerning the divinity of Al-Hakim and paganism in the introduction and “early history” section is adequate, since it totally contradicts with the beliefs section and information referenced throughout the article. And since his information is the controversial one, let him discuss it on the talk page. Without keeping it protected on the current version.

• I hope my request would be taken into consideration, and I’m sorry for any inconvenience Hiram111 (talk) 14:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

This user has been engaging in disruptive editing and removing large paragraphs not only in Druze, but in other articles including here and here, where he used intentionally misleading edit summaries. As for labeling my edits as "vandalism", when his own edits can be described as such, he was already warned by an administrator for doing so. He was also warned for using personal attacks against me such as "totalitarian", "sectarian hatred" and "religious fanaticism", terms that anyone who knows anything about the politics and the history of Lebanon would apply to User:Hiram111 and his likes. Hiram111 also makes a habit of repeatedly lying in his edit summaries and in talk pages. He calls the information I added controversial and claims I didn't use the talk page when I clearly did, and the information I used is not controversial, just very embarrassing to the followers of the Druze sect. The edits added to the article are very well referenced, including books by John Esposito and Mordechai Nisan who are authorities on the issue. Hiram111 and User:Emilyzilch, who I suspect to be Hiram111, have been violating WP:NPOV every time they removed the paragraphs and action should have been taken long ago against User:Hiram111 for his disruptive edits. Please disregard any request by this user to un-protect the article. He has done enough disruptive editing as it is. Thank you. GreenEcho (talk) 15:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help Hiram111 (talk) 22:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Apollo 13 FSC

I uploaded the longer version of the communication between the spacecraft and mission control and can be found at the FSC. Seddσn ^{talk Editor Review} 17:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

updated sources

i added new sources to the article, but it seems the coding is all screwy. ive been trying to fix it for the past hour but im really have trouble. wiki is so confusing! : ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikifan12345/Bo_Burnham Wikifan12345 (talk) 18:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC) any response? Wikifan12345 (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Boston Bruins head coaches

Okay - one more up! Feel free to review. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 02:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Rollback

Hello. Since you offered me rollback before, I just wanted to let you know that User:Keeper76 gave me rollback earlier today. I think I've been doing good ever since. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 22:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I will. And it's no big deal anyway. Oh, by the way, I like that cursive font you have at the top of your page. Can you possibly do it on my talkpage? If I don't like it, I'll undo it. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 22:31, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I could've done that. How simple was that? Anyway, thanks! -- RyRy (talk) 22:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks

thanks for the response!

yeah, ive been reading the categories page. i kind of get it but there is a lot of options. which one do i choose? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikifan12345 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar for you

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User:SignIDlike/Quick License Payment System

I want create a page mentions a payment platform to obtain license to use a copyrighted meterial, comparise loss of potanical revenue to authors, rental of software.LicensePay (talk) 16:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Boston Bruins head coaches

On 3 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of Boston Bruins head coaches, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Your signature

Just FYI, your signature has an unclosed italics tag, so any text following it (that is not on a new line) will also be italicized. I recommend closing it, just in case. Gary King (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Switched

I have switched to neutral per our small exchange at the latest RfA. Forgive my terseness before. I wasn't trying to be blunt and curt. I actually was running back and forth between my comp and something at the lab : ) Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 19:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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what is account creator privelege? What does it do if you have it and how would you use it? I am confused because I thought we could each only have one acount? 72.154.91.14 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:31, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

The regular editor is only allowed to create 6 accounts in a 24 hours period. Accountcreator just allows the the user to create an infinite amount of accounts in a 24 hour period. This is used to help out over at WP:ACC by helping create accounts for people who can't. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Main page design help

Ohai there. I am currently redesigning the main page... well... at least making a proposal for it. It is located here. Could you help me with a few things? -- RyRy (talk) 04:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. If you look at the "Wikipedia's sister projects" section, you can see that the "Meta-Wiki" part of it is to the right of the section. Could you move it to the middle? The transcluding template that leads there is here. Thanks. If you need more information, just ask. -- RyRy (talk) 04:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay. When your online again, tell me so I know. Kthnxbai! ;) -- RyRy (talk) 04:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the usual revert. Umm... wow, only took them nearly a year to insult me? Strange. =\ -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:32, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

* 3. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

* 4 and the block, too. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I Seem To Come And Go

Backs and look! I'm cautious with speedies!. :P -WarthogDemon 01:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes indeed. I've been semi busy and semi distracted this summer however I have been able to stop by at least a few times in the past months. :) -WarthogDemon 21:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Transparent imaging

Ohai. I was wondering if you could make the image on the right here transparent. I don't know how to do it myself. Could you do that? -- RyRy (talk) 21:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Well, it doesn't really matter much anymore. ;) Thanks for trying though. -- RyRy (talk) 06:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I know. Well, the goal I was hoping for was to use the star DYK on the top of my user page. You can see how it's not transparent. The one you just did, for some reason, made it look smaller and worse... no offense. :P You can try yourself by changing the image on User:RyRy/Toplinks. Could you fix that problem. -- RyRy (talk) 06:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

FLC edit this morning

Yes, I think so, why? I promoted the bottom two and "archived" the Lostprophets FLC. Anthems is still outstanding. Does that make any sense?! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, perfect sense. Often as not I get distracted at work (where I am now) mid-process so it makes it challenging to remember exactly where I was...! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

8.44 am here. Another day, another £...! Sleep well. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:42, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Talk page font size

Hey there. I was wondering if you could increase the font size on my user and talk page just a tad bit. It's a little hard to read for users using firefox. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 09:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, that was quick. :P I decided to change the font size entirely, as anything above 13px in cursive just ruins my signature. I replaced it with Times New Roman, which is what my signature uses. :) -- RyRy (talk) 09:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RyRy Public (talk • contribs)

Image question

Hi Gonzo fan2007, I'm puzzled by an image of mine that you deleted (Image:Adi shankara.jpg), because it's now at Commons. The image still shows up on article pages, and if you click on the image file, it still appears at the same filename here on wikipedia,[9] even though it was supposedly deleted. How does that work? I have some other images that I'll probably move over to Commons and have deleted here, but how does an image on Commons still show up on the en.wikipedia.org server after it's been deleted? puzzled, ~ priyanath talk 20:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Makes alot of sense, though I didn't trust what I was understanding until I experimented with some other image/filenames that are only on Commons. So is there any reason or advantage to upload an image to Wikipedia vs. moving/uploading solely at Commons? Thanks, ~ priyanath talk 21:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you again - I'll have to start using my account there more often. ~ priyanath talk 21:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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Charlotte

I have no problem talking to you about this Loodog, This guy just edit or vandalized Charlotte page because he can and I am tried of it as is a lot of other people who live in Charlotte, Charlotte is a beautiful growing city and we want everybody to know it and do not take kindly to someone trying to hack it up just because they can, some one even took the Sports Team Section and moved it to another page how many cities pages have you seen that happen to. Just take a look at all the unnecessary edits Loodog and others have done on Charlotte's page while some cities have way to much information on there page, Thanks for listening —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.222.85 (talk) 03:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tales of Hearts

Hey there Ganzo fan. I was wondering if you could look over my close on the above article. I just want to make sure I was accurate in my closure. Oh, and I received 2 more DYKs. :) It's fun making them. -- RyRy (talk) 08:11, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I was just hoping I made a good close. Thanks again. ;) -- RyRy (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Boing Boing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Revert war's over, discussion died down. I see no reason why the page shouldn't be editable again by now as per WP:PROT. 77.183.96.98 (talk) 11:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I have unprotected the page. Please keep a cool head and work towards a consensus. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 18:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:FS/Apollo 13 message to Houston

Hi! Could you clarify which of the three recordings you prefer? I want to clear out some of the FSCs, but there's three possibilities in this one, and I'm not sure which to promote. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:33, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Just, you know, the second and third both have things going for them, so better to check =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Right. Soon as I hear back from the other two (or one if he also chooses the second), I'll promote =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Lists

Congrats on the pass of the Packers list! Nearly everything is taken care of on Boston Bruins (there are just a few minor problems left), and hopefully that will pass as well. New York Islanders head coaches just needs a verification on the stats and Calgary Flames needs a lead, and some work on the table. Think you can help? Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 18:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Watchlist-details

Did you mean to change the ID too? [10] -- Ned Scott 05:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

But if the ID is changed then it will no longer be dismissed by those who've already dismissed it.. -- Ned Scott 05:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Unprotection request of Charlotte, North Carolina

The original anon has turned silent while I've discussed the issue with three other editors and believe we've come to consensus. Request unprotection.--Loodog (talk) 20:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Lost pets AfD

Thank you for trying to clean up that mess! :) I have no idea what happened; I just tried the procedure again from the beginning and it worked. —Latischolar^talk_{contributions} 00:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Charlotte, North Carolina

Hi. The anon doesn't seem to understand and doesn't appreciate consensus. I'm hesistant to revert him for obvious reasons. I would appreciate it if you could intercede at Charlotte, North Carolina. Thanks.--Loodog (talk) 05:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Protection of MOS and NAME

Is there something I'm missing somewhere that leads you to believe there is a risk of someone moving these without consensus? I was just wondering what lead you to move protect them. Seems kinda presumptive to me. Livitup (talk) 06:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

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John F. Kennedy inaugural address

Sorry to take so long to get back to this - the java player flakes out on me sometimes, so I was just giving it a trivial look-over the other day.

I like the idea of this being a featured sound, but am not sure the mp3-to-ogg conversion is done as well as it could be. I think I might generate a new version, and do a little clean-up =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:46, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

image deletion

So if my understanding is correct, the only way i can get a bust to be uploaded to wikipedia is if i myself sculpted it or if the person who scuplted it 'released it in the public domain' (not sure how you do that with an object, but i'm sure it can be done) I think I understand the rules for stuff like that, but i'm not 100% sure. - -[The Spooky One] | ^{[t c r]} 21:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

redlink list

 Done It's at User:Gonzo fan2007/5. Cheers! – Quadell ^(talk) 22:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions

04:48, 12 July 2008 Gonzo fan2007 m (Protected Wikipedia:Naming conventions: doesnt need to be moved

Why did you protect Wikipedia:Naming conventions from being moved? --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 22:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Looking at your recent edit history, it is clear that you have move protected a lot of pages. I think that you really should revert those move protections for two reasons:

• It is against the philosophy of Wikipedia to restrict editing and moving unless there is a problem. The pre-emptive restrictions are depreciated (If not, every page could be locked and only admins edit or move the pages after requests by others had been placed on the talk pages of the articles).
• At a practical level if a another administrator wishes to move a page (for example WP:NC is currently under a WP:RM), then as a courtesy if it is decided to move the page do you expect to be consulted over the move of every page you have protected?--Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 22:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

If you had set move protection to "block new and unregistered users" then administratively it would be easier to handle (as it would be clearer that such protection would not lead to a wheel war, the reason for consulting you before moving a page). I do think you need to seek a wider consensus for the mass restriction on Wikipedia and I think that a discussion in an appropriate forum ought to he held to see if there is a consensus among administrators for such protection. I would suggest WP:AN or WP:VPP, but I will leave it to your discretion to which forum is used. Please let me know which forum you choose as I do not usually monitor these pages day by day. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 09:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I just came across Wikipedia talk:Manual_of_Style#Move protected which lead me to User talk:Livitup#RE:Protection of MOS and NAME. It would seem that I am not the only one who is not sure this is a good idea. I really do think that this needs a wider discussion. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 16:19, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Move-protection)--Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 18:52, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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Intrado article deletion

Good afternoon. I noticed you deleted the Intrado article referencing it as blatant advertising. The intent was to provide a company history similar to what companies like Johnson and Johnson have. In fact, I used their page as our model. Certainly have no intention of usurping Wikipedia but any direction you can provide as to specific areas that you deem inappropriate would be extremely helpful as I work to revise it accordingly. Thanks for your attention and timeSkeoch65 (talk) 19:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

FLC needing feedback

Do you think you could take a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Denver Broncos seasons‎. Thanks Buc (talk) 17:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Nom is likly to fail in the next 24 hours if nothing major happens. Buc (talk) 17:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Is there a reason...

that you reverted my addition of pure and marked the edit as minor.[11] "Pure" is from WP:CSD#G3, and the second pure has been there for as long as I have been an admin. Not that I care that much, I would just like an explanation. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 17:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure.

"Pure" is a subjective modifier. How is "pure" vandalism any different than "true" vandalism? Or in other words, do we have "unpure" or "untrue" vandalism? Probably not.

I think I understand the sentiment wished. Perhaps (though this is still not great by any means) "clear"? - jc37 19:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm taking a guess that you want me to respond here... It's all good. I was mostly going by the wording of WP:CSD#G3, trying to make sure admins remember the policy as much as possibly can be fit in the drop-down box. No big deal. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 09:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Intrado article deletion

Thanks for reposting and the guidance for improvement. I'll get right on it. Skeoch65 (talk) 04:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Broncos

Gonzo, thanks for your note. I've let Buc know about the archive and made it clear that there are comments to attend to. There's no rush to get these lists promoted so when he's dealt with the host of comments then he can renominate it. Unfortunately, FLC is becoming more and more like WP:PR. Anyway, you should know that you most certainly haven't wasted your time - the comments are available and should Buc attend to them and re-nom then we're all winners. Cheers for your hard work. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Instant U-turn warning. It's back. He's got some more time now. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

No worries, sleep well. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Well thanks for keeping it up but for the record I agree with TRM. I would have just addressed the comments through a PR or user talk pages and then re-nominated. Buc (talk) 10:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

In regards to your comments about some of the statment in this list being POV, I check with the Neutral point of view Noticeboard and they don't appear to have any problem with them. Do you have anymore feedback to give? Buc (talk) 17:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok I'll see if I can get another opinion on the issue. Buc (talk) 07:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

You've got mail !

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Diathermancy

Ohai. Should the above redirect be deleted per R3? It was blanked recently also, so I was thinking he was trying to delete it. :P -- RyRy (talk) 04:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Odd, check this out. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 04:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hm, according to that, it is the same meaning as the redirect redirects to. Maybe moving the page it redirects to to the above article? -- RyRy (talk) 04:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I can't think at 1 AM, but I wouldn't move it. See this. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 04:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Diathermancy Diathermy They seem to be different subjects that are closely related. I would say leaving the redirect or, if you feel like it, making it into a stub would be the best bet. It does seem to be a relevant term, so deletion probably shouldn't be done. It's up to you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 04:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, your right MFC, you usually never edit at this time. :D Anyway, I think I'll just leave it as a redirect for now. I may make it to a stub in the future, but I'm currently on break and will be leaving soon (baseball game at Anaheim tomorrow ;)). -- RyRy (talk) 04:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Haha, its ok MFC :) Have fun at the game Ry! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 04:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Deleting images

Please make sure that the images you delete from enwiki have exactly the same name and extension as copied versions on Commons. For example, when you deleted File:Colorado River from Desert View-geologic column.jpeg, it became a broken link b/c its Commons name ends in jpg not jpeg. These cases need to be fixed in article text ideally before deletion on the enwiki version. Thank you. :) --mav (talk) 11:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration

Since I'm feeling bad about being part of WP:TSQUAD without actually doing anything, do want to collaborate on any lists? I'm basically open to anything. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Either would be fine, but I think the first one would be nice. That way we nominate our respective choices and solve that particular obstacle. I'm going to sleep now but I'll think about what I want to work on the morning (heck, if someone at WP:TSQUAD wants to copy-edit List of Naruto characters, which I've worked on a lot, then that would be another list for the count too). Feel free to choose whatever you want. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 08:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...let's do 79th Academy Awards nominees and winners, which I've been looking at for a while. I'll see what I can do for the Green Bay page at the moment. I'm currently writing up a draft for List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes, so I might not get to the 79th Academy Awards page for a bit. I also have to give a little thought towards the format, as I've never worked on a list of that type before, and there isn't a relevant FL model. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I tried a table format for the Packers list. Tweak, edit, or revert as you see fit, I'm clueless :p Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 00:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

That looks good, just remember to include a legend with what all the abbreviations mean. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 07:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

It's the first time I've tackled a list like that. I think what I'm going to do is a paragraph for every award (brief description of the award, criteria, etc.) and different table formats for every award, which is the main thing I'll have to figure out. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 08:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of User:Haoyang1234567890 page

Hi, apologies if I am breaking etiquette here, I am not very experienced. I notice that you have deleted the user page for User:Haoyang1234567890. While I can understand what that user did wrong, they seem to be even less experienced than me - for example they never reply to comments on their talk page, and this may be because they have not found out about it yet. I wonder why you did not simply revert the unacceptable change, as deleting the page makes it hard for the user to recover the previous, acceptable version? Perhaps this was an honest mistake and may not really deserve such punishment? -- Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured sound promotion

Your featured sound candidate, Image:JFK_inaugural_address.ogg, consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you know of any other sounds of similar quality, please nominate them.

P.S. Sorry I never did the cleanup - oh, well, it was clearly good enough already =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Baseball uniform

Hi Gonzo, I'm back from break, and I did this. :P Anyway, I was wondering if you could help me with baseball uniform. I'm trying to get it to GA status. It needs a lot of work, I know. I created it around the beginning of May, and I've learned a lot since then, so I can improve it further. -- RyRy (talk) 02:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

User talk:AndonicO/Tzatziki Squad

I get what you're saying, but why would I cry if that article was improved? Gary King (talk) 03:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if you've noticed, but my articles aren't all the top of the heap, either – except maybe Noble gas ;) But Call of Duty 4? Sure, some could do without, I'm sure. I was just all riled up in that if you're going to get a lot of people together to work on something, then it should be something like what I suggested. I gave those suggestions because if, say, I were to work on something like Arts then my attention span would be short as I'm sure would others; however, with a lot of people working together it will be easier to work on. History of timekeeping devices was a similar situation; I remember some of the contributors noting afterwards that they "couldn't handle timekeeping devices in more than 10 minute doses", or something along those lines. Gary King (talk) 03:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, first off: CoD4 is my favorite game ever. I didn't know that choices were made in rotation? Gary King (talk) 03:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I obviously don't spend too much time there so I don't know how things work, but from what I can see, the average amount of time spent per getting an article to FAC is about three months or so? Also, if you have got the time, I've got an open request at WP:RPP. Gary King (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Added 2 new sections on Favre discussion page for your input

Respecting the lock on the article, I added 2 sections on the Favre discussion page for your input. Didn't add to the article.

I'm also a Project lead on Michael Martin Murphey (Wildfire) and have the same problems you do. Know what? I almost gave up too. On 11/2007, I (am also a laison between the MMM Wiki Project and MMM himself) submitted what we had to him since his website bio was not that good. I gave him ours. He was so impressed, he used ours as a base for his new "abridged" biography, replacing his old one, and of course his business agents modified it to include non encyclopedic non NPOV stuff. A lot of information was put in the original by thousands along with LP liner history notes, that's not in the abridged, nor on the re-released CD's. This is valuable info we wanted to keep, real bio info. He's deleted all info from birth thru college years from his. And people associations he's broken with in the past. He is very very very private about personal information, but forgets now at 63, we got to preserve the things that make him what he is. So when we do updates, we pass info back and forth so the BASE that it's all built on remains in sync. What a feat I pulled off! So it goes to show that YES, Wiki can be detailed to a point. I want to put family life in there, but there is a fine line I cannot cross. His first marriage ended in 2000. His son Ryan, 42, lives in Racine, WI and is a full time band member. MMM married again and has 3 teenage daughters and breeds horses in SW Wisconsin. He gave up his huge ranch in Taos, N.M. Why would he move to WI?? That's what folks want to know. I know, but that fine line prevents me from saying too much. I've been face to face with him several times. Know what I mean. I've known him for 38 years as well. My Wiki article gets messed up often. I bannished one user for insisting on 45rpms singles like all other Wiki articles. Young 22 something w/ 2 degrees (claims to have) on Indian Reservation has nothing else to do. Saw through his BS. Told him, "there have been 12 media changes in the last 60 years - we are NOT a catalog! It is irrelevent!" Tried to put undercontruction and all that on it only to have it removed by the bot. Grrr.

But our base article clearly could be seen under his additions. I told him he is forbidden to modify the Wiki one since it would lead to "selective deletion" of encyclopedic info we wanted to keep. We've been building this since 2005. So his now reads like accolades and accomplishments and the Wiki one adheres to Wiki rules and standards. However, some users listed by IP address only went in and deleted half of it and started to add from the abridged despite my warnings not to since his website has it over there, and for proper additions, MMM gave me an abridged ORIGINAL from which I plan to use. The version I planned to work on was last dated 3/5/2008 and can't revert. Sigh. But thank God they left the Discography section alone because I put warnings on it that it's mirrored on 4 of MMM websites and I am the caretaker and wish to do it in only one place - here.

Then I nearly died on 3/6/2008 and had to have heart bypass surgery. Now it's 7/21/2008 and I'm just strong enough to get on for a few hours and that's when I found the damage in my article. Well, when you're in a hospital for 60 days (yeah), with no phone, no computer, hooked up to 21 IV's. And Fentanyl (supposed to be better than heroin) did not work at all! Nor morphine! Talk about PAIN. There was no way I could do ANYTHING.

What is the best way for me to get admin status for the MMM article? I am, after all, a direct link between the article and MMM himself. That was established 11/2007. For MMM to do what he did by throwing out his old bio and using mine is nothing but an honor and a compliment, to the standards we try and keep here. I don't want compensation for doing something for music that was one of the greatest to come out of Texas. Now he's staging a second comeback. That's why MMM has re-released all his LP's into CD's and MP3's for the next few generations to listen to, tired of goth and grunge, now that they're going back to OUR roots. The music and biography will remain long after we are gone. That's our legacy we're leaving.

LESSON: always have plans in place for a backup solution in case anything happens to you. Thank God I printed it out the night before I got hit with a coronary. Yes, keeping vandalism to a minimum is a great stress generator. Yes, I did save a copy of the raw code on disk as well. When I'm up to it, I'll just go in and restore the document to 3/5/2008, keeping those changes I find in history worthwhile.

I admire what you've done to the Favre article. Just fantastic, but wish you had a plain headshot to use up near the top. I got one from MMM to put in, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Since I am the link, he wants a particular picture in it, not an album cover, that the bots kept deleting until we got that issue straightened out. Talk about privileges! MMM Now they're worried about my ability to restore the article and update the discography. Just can't win sometimes. He's been patient and not allowed his agents to seize control of it. (She's a control freak). Some days are diamonds and some days are dust.

Don't walk away from the Favre article. This will all blow over at the most Sept 8. Favre won't return, unless it's an emergency, and they are not going to release him, although 48% wish he would just retire and let it be. I'll bet they'll teach him a lesson by taking him back just to training camp only. Then bench him for the rest of the season. One has to be careful today about playing around with management. Favre will not have another SuperBowl w/ Green Bay. THey pulled out too many of his team support for it to happen. They've good new fresh blood for lower pay. Isn't that what corp America is doing as well? We're not a republic anymore - just an oligarchy. Wiki user:JBretSimmons. JBretSimmons (talk) 12:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank You for your time

New - (just learned how to indent...). I do understand that I don't own any WP article. However, when we started, we had a editorial structure that had an hierarchy and most folks were in the discovery phase trying to verify items before it was added. Granted it is owned by no one, there has to be leadership to pull it together. We did have that and it fell apart 3 times, not due to arguments, but as I mentioned MMM is a very private person and articles in print to verify is non existant.

We realized a lot of folks across Texas wanted to input info, there was so much inputting and the head editor [undo]ne anything that did not go through project review, we all had a POW WOW and decided that we are going to act like a newsroom structure. Info is gathered, verified, arranged, discussed by a group of members, voted on, and depending upon the vote, put ona timetable for implementation, or put in a special file for "later consideration" after subjecting it to NPOV, encyclopedic, item of interest item. All the info flowed to a 5 editor team and we had meetings on it. Then it was passed to a head editor/leader w/ a single backup person for the actual input to Wiki. We got a lot more done that way. Well, the group fell apart again, and after those who wanted LP covers, didn't get them, they quit. I understood Wiki's ruling and I follow the DMCA law.

Now here I am, all alone again, having been put at the helm of the project by no one. There war no one in charge to complete the original design. In order for things to get done and to prevent "selective destruction", that caused Wiki Country Music to pick us up MMM WikiTexasProject. I was impressed and got lots of comments because we passed everything to a leader to put it together. We expected completion around 2006. It didn't happen because of defections due to "too much time" it was taking to get the details. Sure I could have opened my mouth and told all, but no. MMM trusted me. Everytime I gave up a gem, the group felt that "I" should be at the top since I was right next to MMM. I said "OK", but I'm new at Wiki. As the group started to disband again in 2006 and 2007, I was told to "take over".

The problem is further complicated that there is a MMM fan website, which is really not going anywhere due to the "control freak". I had in my hands the original plans for COMPLETION of the article so we could go into maintenance mode. Others can make changes, fine. but there should be Project Leader who should always be in charge until the WikiTexasProject is FINALLY COMPLETED. In essence, since this is open, the completion date is effectively moved to infinity. I don't want to own it, I would like to get the new person involved and say "here is our roadmap", "here is our action items", and finally "what would you like to change/add". Since I have no one with me to discuss changes/additions BEFORE it's actually done, Some stuff I need to run by MMM, others are easy because I can compare it to the document in front of me. I would like mine to look like yours. Wow, man that really took tight control of the reins to make that happen. That's how impressed I was. And I've seen all the arguments you've gone through.

In fact, you did have a leader with the Favre article - a hierarchy building it until it was "complete". There really is never a complete here, but you did have the advantage of having a senior leader and a head editor to make THE final choice on a change. And the arguments that ensue! Geez. Yours are tame compared to what we wenth through.

I have a question for you. Did others make chanages and then boast on another fan web site what they did to Wiki and you found out that way first that something was not run by the editors/senior editors/project leader first? Sure. I also read the legal Wikinews about negative items, etc.

While I have an agreement with Michael Martin Murphey, you realize in ACTUALLITY, I have to take the Wiki code, strip off the formatting, give it to MMM and he has his website team adds their HTML so it fits their website. The colors and fonts may differ, but the RAW data is kept on a 3rd computer from which they draw info and put info in. So I can assure you while there are external links to those other sites, this server (my computer) sits between the Wikipedia server, and the MMM server. So Wiki is not involved DIRECTLY, I just simplified things by saying this is how it ultimately is going to work (simplicity mode). I have no edit access to the MMM server, the MMM store server, or the fan base server (I am just a user on the fan server), not a moderator. I can't carry on effective ops between fans to get the rest of it done because of the (control freak). She practices censorship, not moderation. ::]]

I plan to open to more Google groups for discography where discossions will take place, and I'll put a Wiki and MMM copy over there, they will modify it at the fan base. It lessens the stress of modifying it here on Wiki. There's no way the system here can handle messages of 500 lines as we discover there are 20 copies of "Wildfire"; there are 13 different versions of it. I have to build a 3x3 matrix of albums x songs x versions. I don't want to do it here on Wiki, These users following me do not know how to use Wiki. (As you can tell, I am new as well). Got the book, still reading.

QUESTION for you. There was information obtained by me, from several places. How do I list the references in order of importance. They are:

1) 11/2007 statement reference (if retained - in most cases will be because they meet NPOV and verified for that edition submitted and have remained since 2005 - 2007. ::

2) John Bret Simmons, "Wildifre Productions", (I am not a MMM employee, but this is my source - Micahel martin Murphey who actually owns "Wildfire Productions"). Or should it be John Bret Simmons "Wildfire Productions", Michael Martin Murphey, "Wildfire Productions?

3) Susan Davis "Diamond D Graphics". "Wildfire Prodcutions" the in is a real problem. (She does all of his websites except what I'm responsible for (bio and discography, and high end MP3) and is his business agent and control freek), for business reasone I think she is being paid through Diamond D Graphics (her own company), not Wilfire Productions because of tax status.

4) Michael Martin Murphey, "Wildfire Productions"

I realize some will start with 1,then 2, then 4. Some just 4, (3 would NEVER occur without 4, I know that.. !) Since this is essentially of the v2 of the v1 article, do I replace 1 with 2 and 4 or 1, 2 and 4.

Or should I just give up and re-do all the references and do 1,2,3 (optional, unless she gives me info in email), then 4 since it's all going to be new. I ommitted Sue's name because she's just an agent, and it was MMM who did all the updating.

Problem was, other editors gave up because they couldnt' get access to MMM because because of Davis. She controls all access to MMM in person, by phone, by pail, She's in your face. I went directly to MMM and told him that Sue was causing a big P/R problem. From then on, I got what I needed, and since MMM and I go back 38 years, his freak control agent has been there only since 5/2006. She does EVERYTHING for him to the point the fan website doesn't get updated for weeks because she's "on location". And I have to wait too. (She HAS given me her cell phone number per his orders... hehehe). I plan to take care of this later. She basically abandoned the website because it was too busy and remember, censors instead of moderate. Rventually all the users quit. It was a very BAD situation.

I really don't see any problems as long as there is no direct link between Wiki and MMM Websites. I was just trying to make the visualization earlier easier for you to see and visualize. I actually have to take the code and modify it and produce 16 versions that will be downloadable from the MMM website. like HTML, ANSI, ISO, UTF, UTF8, MS-DOS, plain text, etc. Windows appends a header at the top of each file - metadata, for XP, Vista to handle the conversion from one type to another internally. XP does it semi-automatically. Now you know what I REALLY have to do with the downloadable discography files. No other artist offers the download option yet and Jimmy Buffet and Jerry Jeff Walker are waiting for me to implement it first on the MMM website FIRST. Jerry Jeff has no MP3's so I got to help him make 128 and 192 MP3's in house. He doesn't want to outsource it. Sigh. Been with both of them for 38 years also from Texas way back. One can only use a Notepad editor with HTML. WordPad just displays the html the way it's supposed to look. Ugh. I have to be careful with the IE7 IE8 Encoding while editing. Sometimes I just love to whip it out in MS-DOS command line prompt (ANSI), 3 byte metadata header I can delete for MAC and LINUX users. See how complicated this all really iz? It's all on MY shoulders, I don't have any project members anymore. Nobody wants to work with the (control freak). She won't return ANY email. mail (except mine), phone calls (except mine), faxes. Right now I'm at loggerheads with #3. She aint posting discography and it's holding up the final CD burn. The fans have been great. They bypass the group site and email me with a long list of names for CC: <grin>.

So don't worring about the WP agreement. It's gotta go through a machine change before it goes on the MMM server. Eventually, they'll add another server when we get the 3D stuff, You tubs, and high quality MP3's. There will be only 1 place to look for BIOGRAPHY, here, and the AUTOBIOGRAPHY, his web site. Is that any clearer? There are still base document issues to work through, but I think once we go to .PDF format, either document can be selected. They are using PDF now. Does Wiki have a conversion tool to .PDF?

So you relalize once I get the websites the informations that are missing, the main will be up to them. Actually Jerry Jeff Walker (you being a Gonzo fan!, I have all of his stuff), has a complete discography until Walter passed away last year from a brain tumor. The website is top notch, and the that type of discography is what I'm aiming for with sort of a 3D look with the song versions, the variations, and what albums they're on. Jimmy Buffet doesn't have downloadable MP3's either in 192. He outsourced it all to 128. This is what I was trying to keep up with last summer until my coronary. I'm retired and want to get all the good music not on CD's to CD's from LP's and cassettes. I have the studio equipment and software to do that. Now you know why I was picked. I don't advertise. I'm glad to see the JJW and JB articles are up to date. That's an awful picture of JB from his latest Parrothead newsletter. Ya gotta be a fan for over 30 years before you get a real touchy feely quarterly newsletter from Margaritaville! Everyone else gets email! <grin> This is the LAST long message. I wrote it so you can understand that sometimes a control structure is needed until the Project is COMPLETE An open source will not allow completion, it only delays it. Thanks so very much for your help. This weekend I will finish the Wiki For Dummies Book. Sorry for the long words. Deaf people tend to be this way. Wiki User=JBretSimmons

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List of Quebec Nordiques head coaches

Can you delete this article since it's already in the article, List of Colorado Avalanche head coaches? Annoyomous24 01:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hey

Ah, the perfect time to practice my Azerbaijani! Yeah, I got your message over there. I think we should converse there instead of here from now on :D It's scary on different wikis because sometimes the layout is different so I can't always rely on my muscle memory to know where to click. Gary King (talk) 08:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should run for adminship there as I'm sure you'd have very little opposition :) Gary King (talk) 08:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Why

Why can i not use the image of don hutson? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohio state buckeyes football68 (talk • contribs)

Grand Canyon trails

Hello, I tagged Walhalla Glades Trail and Walhalla Spur Trail with unreferenced|date=July 2008, after an attempt to find references, as noted on the article talk pages. My apologies at not being able to find references! BrainMarble (talk) 21:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

User you warned

[12] Note all the ensuing edits. A block would be well-warranted, IMO. Enigma ^message 01:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Review

Ohai Gonzo fan. I noticed you were doing some editing. Could you do an editor review on me? Don't worry, take your time. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 09:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Re:Review

Thank you very much, Gonzo. :) And yeah, DYK is pretty much going to be one of my main areas when being an administrator. :) Oh, I have one question. When you say I'm "ready", are you saying I am ready to try an RfA fairly soon? Then again, I wouldn't want to nominate myself... -- RyRy (talk) 08:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah. Well, I don't really plan on running an RfA anytime soon. I would imagine that I try an RfA around next year, or maybe a month or two earlier. But due to the recent rollback issues, I would like to show to the community that I am capable of using rollback accurately for a few months, so they know I can handle the bigger tools and responsibility as an administrator. And I basically through away my first two, maybe three months here would some of the problems back then. So you won't see my running within the next two months. By the end of September, I should be an administrator on Simple Wikipedia. Funny, I was already offered a future RfA nomination by an administrator on Simple today. :P Summing it up, I already have four nominators on simple, but of course, I have to wait until my account is at least three months old since we have a criteria for adminship. So anyway, when I am an administrator on Simple, I would maybe want three months of experience as an administrator at Simple, just to see what's it like. From there, I'll decide when I'm ready to try a RfA on the English Wikipedia, that is, if I still want to become one here. :) Oh, and sorry for the long replies. I'm basically addicted to making long replies, especially on Simple Wikipedia. ;) -- RyRy (talk) 08:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Linking to commercial sites

Yo, Gonzo, per this you might want to check out WP:LINKSTOAVOID section 15; ISBN, OCLC and ISSN are always preferable to commercial links. Even when none of those exists, a superior alternative to linking to an Amazon product description page is ASIN. Regards, Skomorokh 08:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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I sent you email. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC) -- — Rlevse • Talk • 09:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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Presumably it should be safe to unprotect once it's delinked from google's start page. Give it 2 or 3 days for stories about their 50th anniversary to fade from the news and most of the vandals will forget about it.--VectorPotential Talk 22:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Changing my mind

I can't really think of a format for 79th Academy Awards nominees and winners, so I'll leave that on the sideline for now. How about List of films receiving six or more Academy Awards? User:Milk's Favorite Cookie worked on it for the FLC contest, and I've been looking at it for a whole. I'll drop a line on his talk page to his discussion. In any case, should we put the lists we're collaborating on the table at WP:TSQUAD? sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 01:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sea Wolf

Silly rabbit, you forgot to replace the image you deleted. All taken care of now though Ryan4314 (talk) 22:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

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Just letting you know I've changed "only" to "just" per a user on the Neutral point of view talk page. BUC (talk) 17:47, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, I was discussing the List of Memphis Grizzlies head coaches on its peer review page and recommended that it should be resubmitted to WP:FLC. However, User:K. Annoyomous24 informed me that in the previous FLC, you had called it a premature nomination. I just want to know the reasons for your statement (I can't provide a link to that page because it has been deleted). Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 00:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Chad Ocho Cinco

We're just gonna have to move the page back in a week or two.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 18:42, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

It's his new name and his legal name, which he will presumable use on his taxes and will be put on his jersey. Robert Moore, former Cardinal reciever, changed his name to Ahmad Rashad and that is the name used on wikipedia today. I don't like the change either, but this isn't an opinionated website, it's an encyclopedia meant to be unbiased and report facts. He took this to serious levels when his change became legal. But Chad Johnson is nobody now. He doesn't exist as a wide receiver, just as a nickname. The Rocket is more known than Raghib but we use Raghib Ismail on Wikipedia. TheChad89 (talk) 19:12, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Warning...

Stop the gheyness on the Ocho Cinco talk page. Its just become spam and if it continues I will remove it... HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 19:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Fine with me I don't really give a crap. HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 19:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry mate but thats just how I roll. I saw some spam going on and I dont care who it is. You two should stfu because its just becoming spam and getting pathetic. HPJoker ^{Leave me a message} 19:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Chad Johnson

I move protected it for about a week, with my full explanation being on WP:RPP/the article. Hope you don't mind. (Nevermind, I guess you saw)   jj137 (talk) 20:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

You're exactly right, there's nothing we can figure out right now. Just wanted to make sure you were OK with the decision. :)   jj137 (talk) 20:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Hah, yeah, wikidrama is just a pain. It never really accomplishes anything and only makes things worse, it seems like. I just can't believe Chad... err... (I'll just call him Chad for now) made such a crazy decision to cause all of this. :P Well, he's Chad being Chad.   jj137 (talk) 20:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I know, I've been wondering the same thing. His "retirement" made national news for weeks, and then a few months later, he randomly decides to "unretire"... it just made no sense at all. If he retires after this season or next (which I'm guessing he will), probably most people won't care or believe him, only because of all of the drama (how ironic) he caused with the Packers. Meh, things just don't make sense any more...   jj137 (talk) 20:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I almost think that phrase could be applied to just about every page on wikipedia. :P   jj137 (talk) 20:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:COLTS

Thanks! I finally got motivated enough to create the project. Also thanks for the easy to copy template (WP:PACKERS). :) HoosierState^Talk 07:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

G'day Gonzo....

just a quick note to say that I think you're spot on in your comments on AN about the gustav infobox thing... I'm afraid I find the conversation extremely distasteful, and don't think it would help to engage further - but thanks for your words nonetheless.. best, Privatemusings (talk) 04:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

TBN Logos

Just wondering, why are you removing the TBN logo from TBN affiliate pages? - NeutralHomer • Talk 04:18, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I have chimed in on the ANI page. Most of the affiliates the logo is on are TBN O&Os. The station is owned by TBN, so having the logo on those pages isn't really an issue. - NeutralHomer • Talk 04:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Gonzo, regarding your edit here, the use of the same image in multiple articles actually reduces the amount of Fair Use content on Wikipedia. And since the stations use the logo in question, it's a valid use. The use certainly is not "illegal", the term you used on AN/I, and you certainly should have waited for greater consensus in the discussion before you mass-reverted the edits using a semi-automated tool. Firsfron of Ronchester 04:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Gonzo, I don't get into the fair use/NFCC whatevers of Wikipedia (waaay too many headaches there) but saying a logo "does not add significantly to the article" is just false. It is the logo of the network that station carries, and in some cases, the logo of the company that owns that station. Also, saying that a logo "does not provide information" is also wrong. If you can show me how the TBN logo can be "explained through words", I will personally give you a barnstar.

But I would stop and wait before making anymore changes until there is consensus one way or the other on the AN/I discussion, you are kinda jumping the gun. - NeutralHomer • Talk 04:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I am very sorry that you do not understand that when someone asks you to explain why you stated that the situation was "Illegal". It certainly is not. You also do not seem to understand that when someone asks you for clarification on your "illegal" gaffe, he or she is not looking for a link to Wikipedia's Fair Use policies. Please revert your poorly-considered edits to the TBN station articles, which were made under a cloud of copyright paranoia, as "illegal". Clearly, you do not understand copyright law or Wikipedia's policies. You should also review the guideline for the use of semi-automated tools for controversial edits (don't do it). Firsfron of Ronchester 04:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Not in all cases is the station owned by TBN, but in all cases it is affiliated with TBN (like WTVR is affiliated with CBS, but owned by Raycom). Right below the logo, in most cases, it says "Affiliations TBN". The network is linked right below the logo, so the reader could always "navigate to the main article".

Also, TBN stations don't have individual logos like NBC, CBS, ABC, etc stations. They have just the one. So, that technically is that station's logo along with the logo of the network. It is rare for a TBN station to have a logo that isn't the official one. - NeutralHomer • Talk 04:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I would strongly urge you not to use the term "ignorant opposition" again when referring to good-faith editors. Calling another editor "ignorant" could be seen as a personal attack, and, more to the point, calling someone "ignorant" will only escalate an argument. You may have thought you were enforcing a policy; that doesn't give you carte blanche to ignore other policies while doing so: administrators are expected to follow the policies the same as other users. Firsfron of Ronchester 05:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

TBN Logos (#2)

Gonzo, the foundation stipulates that each project is to have an EDP to limit fair use in a reasonable way, it does not say what that EDP may contain. In fact, for the foundation to make explicit policy like that would put it's safe harbour status in problematic waters. For example, our sister project Wikinews allows Grant of License images which are basically cc-by-nd. Each project is free to determine how strict they want their EDP to be. Ours is currently disputed by quite a few editors who feel that a select group of editors have tenditiously gaurded the policy page to ensure it reflects their version. The reality is that most people are quite comfortable allowing a moderate amount of fair use, but with the idea that free is always preferred and sought out, but if there is no free to be had, it doesn't necessarily mean we go without. Using the logo to identify the station is quite reasonable and within our standards as they have been over time. --Dragon695 (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: TBN logos - please help me understand your POV

I wish to continue the dialog you began on my talk page. I have raised my concern about the one comment, and plan to say no more about it - it's done as far as I'm concerned. We have found common ground on the quantity of use question and have taken that off the table as an issue. It seems then that the point of contention is whether or not the logo contributes "significantly" to a reader's understanding of the topic, and more specifically, when the logo is used in an article such as KTBN-TV or KPAZ-TV, as opposed to its use in Trinity Broadcasting Network. I'm having trouble understanding how in your mind the logo contributes significantly to TBN, but not to KTBN, or why a KTBN-specific logo (that would probably have incorporated the TBN network logo) contributes significantly, but the network logo does not. Or maybe you don't believe that the TBN logo contributes significantly to the TBN article - I guess given the crow I've eaten tonight, I should watch my assumptions. What are you looking for in the use of a logo in terms of significance? I have your talk page watched, so if you wish to keep the discussion here, that's good. dhett ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

My opinion stands as such. A logo, having being created and used for the recognition of a company, is perfectly justifiable to be used in it's own article, as it clearly identifies that company who owns the logo. Thus, I do believe it is easily justifiable in Trinity Broadcasting Network. I do not know about your assumptions, but I would agree that it is perfectly reasonable to assume the company who owns a logo can have said logo in its Wikipedia article. As for the its use in other articles, I do not debate the fact that there may be articles where it is justifiable to use the said logo. From what I have read and heard, there are some big differences between these stubs. There is a question as to whether some should even be articles. As for the significance, WP:NFCC#8 states "Significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic." (My emphasis). I do not doubt that ones understanding is not increased with the logo, but significantly increases is doubtful. All these stations do (if I understand correctly) is rebroadcast TBN's coverage. For someone to understand what each station is and does, which is the point of the article, one just needs to read the article. The logo serves very little to explain this in such a way that is could not easily be stated in the first sentence (which is basically is). One key to remember is one of my points that was lost in the big old debate, that we a free encyclopedia, and as WP:NFCC states "There is no automatic entitlement to use non-free content in an article." We strive to be free unless there is no way we can be free and provide the same high-level of information. If one wants to include a non-free image, one must clearly justify its use on the basis of WP:NFCC. It is obviously seen (by the huge discussion and many people who argued in it) that the fair-use rationales were nowhere close to clearly justifying the criteria for inclusion. If a little over half the people in the conversation believed the images should be removed, then no matter whether or not you agree, you have to give that since there was such a problem, that the rationale for inclusion was severely lacking. Thus the images should be removed. My belief is that whoever looks over these articles should go through them and merge the stations who should not have articles into a basic list, and then go through each article and make a clear fair-use rationale for each article (rather than a boilerplate rationale which was the same for each use of the image). If we have a problem like this, we remove the problem and then address each single article at a time. That is what I believe. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 17:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Praise Jesus! Testify!

Thank God there are administrators out there not afraid to abuse their power and leave alive unworthy articles. Oh, wait, every admin abuses their power. Why? Because they are powerless in life, and are losers who have yet to lose their virginity! No wonder this encyclopedia is a joke! You can have it, douchebag. 70.54.127.172 (talk) 00:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I know!!! Isn't it great!! man o day I love abusing my power. I mean what is the worth of power if you don't abuse it?! Well not every admin abuses their power, but only the "good" ones do! Yep, you're absolutely right, having sex with someone makes you a real winner! You're also right, I mean all we do here is joke around (and abuse power), its just so much fun! Thanks for letting me have it, I was afraid I was going to have to abuse my power even more and block you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Jesus, that (IP's) message totally cracked me up! Perhaps rather than writing this message, he should sign up for the Army! ;) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 11:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

re:thanks

Alright I'll remember that. A while back, someone replaced my talk page with "YOU SUCK", "Weird Al" style. I enjoy em too if they're directed at me. I usually remove them if they are directed at other editors though. :) Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 01:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

If he hadn't replaced my talk page, I probably would have kept it too. What do you think of Ocho Cinco? Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 01:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Same here. Burner0718 ^{Jibba Jabba!} 01:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

User:IhateIIIZilla

Thanks for the speedy block of User:IhateIIIZilla. Might I request a block of his IP as well? You can see from the histories [13] and [14] that they are the same editor making the same reverts to the same 2 articles. I was about to request it at ANI when I noticed you'd blocked the account, but he immediately continued from the IP. I figured since you jumped on the account so quickly I'd just ask you directly to deal with the IP. Thanks for the time. --IllaZilla (talk) 04:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you, but he's at it again: [15] [16] [17]. Same editor, same articles, different IP. I'd handle it myself but I do this all manually (since most anti-vandalism tools require a different browser and rollback privileges) so it gets pretty tedious. Thanks again. --IllaZilla (talk) 10:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Joanie Dodds

How is this edit un-constructive. Even if you disagree with it, why would you template the IP? This seems to be a good faith editor who is just trying to improve Wikipedia. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Oups! You are absolutely right! I fixed it. Sorry about that... --ŦħęGɛя㎥ 14:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the revert. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers QB Template

Considering that Aaron Rodgers has now started a regular season game, I'd say it's now time to remove protection on this template. Richiekim (talk) 23:13, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Please remember 9/11

In memory of those 2,998 who lost their lives seven years ago and to the thousands who have lost their lives protecting our freedom since, please join with me in a moment of silence and remembrance. God Bless

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YAK

You're are a very kind and good person for remembering that day and for doing something that seems so small but is very thoughtful. I also like the end (God Bless), it is good someone still uses that.--WillC 01:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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Where did "User:Snowfire51" go?

Ожиданиесчастья (talk) 09:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Blocked IP returned with another

FYI, I declined the unblock for 75.40.243.26 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) but s/he has returned as 69.209.107.125 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). —Wknight94 (talk) 13:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Page Lock

Thanks for the page lock. Unfortunately, it looks like all that was done was to push beck the edit war for a week, as locking on this version won't inspire any of the edit warriors to comment in discussion (which was sort of, what was needed at this point). Nobody will bother to input now: Talk:List_of_Danish_Americans#Massive_blanking.2C_September_11.2C_2008. Bulldog123 (talk) 19:11, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I know about WP:TWV, but its hard to get that version up in time when you have a horde of people with WP:OWN issues reverting you. I'll post on WP:AN/I shortly, but I feel that won't do anything either. Bulldog123 (talk) 19:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Deadly Ninja Arts

If you get a chance, could you check the IPs edits at NInja? The IP is linking ninjas to The Art of War, which seems pretty dubious. He left a reference on my talk page here [18] which mentions absolutely nothing of the sort, and his other edits have been reverted. I don't want to edit war over there, so I'm looking for an admin's opinion. Gracias! Dayewalker (talk) 03:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Thanks for the message.

FLRC is rarely very busy and is an environment suited to slow deliberation. I've not yet come across a real need for speedy closes, because inappropriate nominations are very rare and clean-up work usually takes a while and even a really crummy FL deserves a chance of being rescued.

I'll dig out of my archives the procedure to go through when administering a close at FLRC. But more important is the diligent attempting to find people who might be interested in performing the rescue work needed for a save. That can take a bit of creativity. If you know what I mean, I'd say it's not an "in the job description" part of the Director's role, but is very much in the spirit of FL in particular and Wikipedia in general.

In essence, I view the role as doing all I can to help the list retain its status and always remember that there's no rush to delist anything from FL. The administrative stuff: closing, adding/removing from various Cats and Stats, is very much secondary to that. --Dweller (talk) 10:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Instructions --Dweller (talk) 11:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know, I have added your name to FLRC, so I guess it's official now. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 13:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

help

Hi Gonzo can you help me? I was reading the article on GM, and it looks like everything was written by someone who works for GM or really likes their cars. I read about how GM has lost a ton of money this year and the article has nothing about it. I'm pretty sure it's lying. The article is totally long, and it sucks. Is there a way we can get it deleted and rewrite it? Can I do something? I really don't know much about cars or business, I just want to fix it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.216.41 (talk) 03:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure I can help. First off, on Wikipedia, we try to use links to help add context. When you say "GM" I am guessing you are talking about General Motors, which can be linked by typing [[General Motors]] in the edit window. Also on Wikipedia, we try to be as neutral as possible, we don't want biased articles. We do this by citing reliable sources so that all the information can be properly verified. So if you want to add something about GM in it's article, you need to first find a reliable source that states what you are going to add (such as a newspaper article, journal, etc.). Just type in your sentence and then place the link after the sentence inside brackets (like this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page] which makes [19]). Really if you think there is something wrong with the article, it is best to bring it up at the article's talk page, which can be found at Talk:General Motors, so that other editors who know about the company can help you out. I hope this helps! Good luck! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Um ok, but I really just wanted to have somebody who knew about cars to look over the article. I clicked on discussion and it looks like a lot of people are mad but no one is doing anything. I don't edit wikipedia, I just read it. I can't even write sources right in school essays! I don't want to get banned from this site for screwing up an article. Someone from GM is probably writing the article anyway. Can you just let some editors know that it should be fixed or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.216.41 (talk) 04:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do, I really don't know much about cars either. But I'll leave a note on the talk page about your concerns. There is some trouble on Wikipedia with biased articles, but hopefully one of these days we will get better! Good luck with your school, have a great night! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, you won't get banned if you are trying to improve the articles, Wikipedia doesn't work that way unless you are disruptive and are acting in bad faith, which you obviously aren't. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

thank you, is there a policy or something that I can use if I want to fix things? maybe just a warning or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.216.41 (talk) 04:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome, the three most important policies here are ignore all rules, be bold, and use common sense. Everything else is just a formality. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

i'm really sorry I keep bothering you. But I just wanted to tell you that I added this thing I read about in wikipedia's neutrality article. it might be wrong, it's in General Motors. It's at the top. Is this ok? It's like a big template thing.--76.16.216.41 (talk) 04:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

It's no problem, that is actually a very good idea. If you want, you can try and explain your opinion at the bottom of the talk page where I made my note, so others can figure out how to make the article more neutral. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Uno Mas

Thanks for your help, one more trolling about at 70.9.45.77 (talk · contribs). Thanks again! Dayewalker (talk) 01:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

My Talk page

Yeah...protecting would probably be a good idea. Thanks. -TPIRFanSteve (talk) 04:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Gonzo fan

Thank you for supporting my RfA nomination, Gonzo. I appreciate your confidence. Cbl62 (talk) 05:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Baseball content removing IP returns

FYI, your friend, 75.40.243.26 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), has returned again as 67.36.61.84 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Same questionable removal of content, esp. from baseball articles. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Space

Thanks, even though I can't see in the diff what you did! :-) – RyRy (talk) 03:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Requests for Page Protection seems like a lonely job sometimes, I would image. And I know I just dumped you with a lot of work. So I hope this is adequate compensation and I hope that one day I can help you with your often thankless job. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 02:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

IP Talk

Heya!

I have a quick simple question, are IP users given the right to delete vandalism warning from their talk page? Thanks, PoinDexta1 | Talk to Me | 08:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! PoinDexta1 | Talk to Me | 00:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Request unblock on Religious violence in Orissa

Gonzo, please reconsider the block on Religious violence in Orissa. Both User:Googlean and myself feel the situation is under control. I'm not sure that there's even been a technical 3RR violation on the page. In any event, the page describes, among other things, a very recent event that has new information coming up often. Furthermore, the page needs a significant amount of work. For these reasons, I think the protect is counter-productive. Prince of Canada has been a positive influence on the page, but I think he's wrong here. Gabrielthursday (talk) 10:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I am inclined to change it to expire tomorrow. Indefinite protection is overkill here. Stifle (talk) 12:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you took my message that way, I wasn't trying to be aggressive or anything. Stifle (talk) 18:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

PLease Protect it again. Reckless POV edits by Recordfree etc.

Jobxavier (talk) 06:39, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Solar System

Hi Gonzo, yesterday I requested unprotection (from SP) for Solar System. Your response was "Yeah, definitely not". This is not at all helpful and is bordering on incivility. The request was, and remains, perfectly valid. If you check the edit history you'll see that the article was unprotected some time ago then immediately re-protected by Ckatz. There seems to be no reason for this protection and I can only assume that the admin in question has an issue with IP editors - maybe he doesn't, but it certainly appears so. Perhaps you could look again at Solar System, and if you decide that it should remain SPd then could you provide reasons. Thanks, 141.6.8.75 (talk) 13:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

There was no sarcasm in my decline reasoning. The implication that an admin has an agenda is unfounded, and against WP:AGF. The protecting admin gave a fairly long protection reasoning "High traffic page: Frequent IP vandalism, has also been move target)" Solar System is a very high traffic article, and thus merits protection. My statement "Yeah, definitely not" was based on the previous reasons and the fact that the article was very recently protected. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a count of (154/3/2). I appreciate the community's trust in me, and I will do my best to be sure it won't regret handing me the mop. I am honored by your trust and your support. Again, thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops, careful with your reverts..

You reverted this page back to a revision which contained image vandalism. User:206.116.63.240 had already removed the vandalism. Just thought I should let you know. You did that unintentionally ofcourse. -Abhishek^Talk 19:22, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, my bad :/ « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

So that's how you real feel about me, eh? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hahahaha... you caught me!! jkjk, sorry bout that Gogo =D « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Uh huh, sure... =D -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh, yep I have always wanted to try and slip some vandalism on your page =D And I have reverted a lot of vandalism on your page, I think I am due at least one mistake :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

True, you have done enough to earn at least one shot at me. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I think I have ~100 edits to your user space! =D « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

RE: barnstar

Thanks so much!! :D I really appreciate the kind words. Cheers! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I've been arguing that for the last year, who says we need more than three admins for Wikipedia? :P And yeah, I always meant to give you a barnstar of stealing all my RFPP requests when I'd see your green sig filling up half the page, haha. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

It looks green on my screen. Whatever, we'll have to agree to disagree here. :) Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:22, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, take it easy! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I haven't assigned a value to it yet. I'm going to get around to that as soon as I get some slzzzzzzzzzz... Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 05:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't get enough sleep at night so I took the liberty of snoozing through my english class. Now I'm ready to embark on my epic quest to find out how many wheels are in a year... Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 17:24, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers

Just out of my own curiosity, as I have no clue whatsoever (literally zero) with regards to Football, in the template that you have written up for the proposed bot, what is |DraftedYear=YEAR |DraftedRound=ROUND |DraftedPick=PICK

More specifically. In the given sites, where would — let us say a hypothetical bot — be able to pick up these values? Also, the information on one of the sites lists out real/full names. Is there a specific place in the article that might be covered? Are the Date of Deaths listed in any of the pages picked up from? Is it entirely possible for any of the listed players to have played for more than 1 team? If so, how would they be categorized as a list? There are various listed positions on the pro-football, which — my hypothetical bot — has no clue about. Would you like the bot to just copy and paste this info? And last but not the least: In the article it self, what does this: DRAFT STATUS/COLLEGE. SEASONS PLAYED/RETIREMENT mean? Where would my hypothetical bot be able to pick up these values.

Let me assure you once again that I do not make Wikipedia bots, this is just out of my curisosity. If someone else proposes to make this bot for you, please ask them to continue. This is more of a learning curve for me to program for Wikipedia. And last but not the least, the only time I actually program is to relax. I have even gone to lengths without actually taking a look at my watchlist. I still have to make heads and tails of the way to communicate with the Wikipedia server. Aly89 (talk) 23:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Never thought about using bullet points :) Dumb me. Now, if you were able to look at this page User:Aly89/Sandbox, this is what my *HIGHLY* experimental bot is able to whip up. The only thing that I placed manually in this page is the reference to the DatabaseFootball in the info table (which I would be able to extract given my current coding). Again, if you get an offer of someone making a bot for you from the Bot requests, please do accept it :)... I am just doing this for fun :)

PS: I have no idea who "Alex Urban" is. Just randomly picked his name for fun. Given that you gave me the name of a person who has a considerable history, I would start testing with that person. Aly89 (talk) 02:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

• Regarding PacMan, I am sure that would have cracked you up. I actually had the function that extracted the link in place and it was working. But in order to temporarily boost the speed while I was doing some tests... I decided to just stop the execution of that code and hot-wire it to www.pac-man.com :) Packers -> PacMan... But forgot to remove it while posting one of these pages up.
• I did try to find a method of getting the correct link without going through the search, but since it took more than 2 minutes, I decided to go forward and implement other methods... I will look into it as soon as I get some time. Will goto bed after this, and do this at Uni tomorrow.
• Regarding, GNB (Green Bay Packers)... I already have a complete routine that actually formats the name of the team and adds the intials of the team as shown. It can easily be tweaked to produce anything similar to the lines. Dropping the initals for the team should do the trick.
• What a coincidence. Given the name of the player you gave me, I just finished coding a complex algorithm that extracts a complete timeline for the history of the player. I do admit, to speed up things, I used the dirtiest of all the hacks :).
• As for the Alex,Urban. Entirely possible in the realm of reality. My only question, if it is a long name like: ABC DEF GHI XYZ... then it should become XYZ, ABC DEF GHI right?
• As for the University thing, a quick search at the database-football reveals, that that site stores the complete name for the Universities and Colleges. I haven't yet written the code to parse that site as of yet, if I do carry forward and write it, I do believe that we can extract the complete names from there
• The only problem I would be facing is that, for newer playes, like Favre, the Packers site has a completely different format of storing information (rather fragmented) as compared to the older players. I only hope we do not need any specific information from that site. But I would need to look into it a little more.

Let me see how far I can refine this code to our needs :)Aly89 (talk) 03:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok after spending a good part of the last 2 hours (1.25 hours alone on the that timeline algorithm), here is the progess I have made.

Following is a dump from my bot (better viewable in edit mode) after reading the specific pages of Favre. Most of these things are dynamically picked up from the websites, a few non-existant like Date of Death, are hardcoded to be blank. Some thing like Height and Weight are picked up, but never applied to the template. If you need them, please let me know and I will update the template in the specific way we want them.

POSITION: QB DOD: DOB: October 10, 1969 YEAR-TEAMS: Atlanta Falcons
Green Bay Packers
New York Jets DOB-DAY: 10 PROFOOTBALLURL: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FavrBr00.htm DOB-MONTH: 10 DRAFTPICK: 33 ALIAS: DRAFTYEAR: 1991 PACKERSURL: http://www.packers.com/history/brett_favre_tribute/bio/ LASTNAME: Favre DRAFTROUND: 2 FIRSTNAME: Brett COLLEGE: Southern Miss POD: WEIGHT: 225 lbs. HEIGHT: 6-2 NAME: Brett Favre YEARS: 1991
1992-2007
2008 POB: Gulfport, MS DOB-YEAR: 1969 FULLNAME: Brett Lorenzo Favre TODAY-MONTH-DAY: September 29 TODAYDATE: September 29, 2008

Major things updated: The bot is now able to spit out "Years" and "Year-Teams" to our compliance. It is able to pick up the correct Packers URL (Stupid fragmented website), it is able to pick up the redirected URL, it is able to spit out the Last Name and First Name (was already being done, just needed to tweak the template on my computer). It is able to correctly format the team name. Although applying it to Categories would take me about 15 minutes to code (with a lot of caffine).

Things left:

• DatabaseFootball parsing
• Minor Tweaks (I know dashes should be changed to mdash;. Will work on it as soon as possible)

It is already able to pick up the teams year wise, the $TEAMS$ would be just a replace of the br with a comma to make it easier in the page itself

Given the complexity of the code that has now been reached (I never planned it to reach this complex :(), a few bugs might creep in here and there, which we should be on the lookout for.

The timeline algorithm make sures (hopefully) that if the person has been absent for a year, to take that into account as well. And it also tries to figure out the years that the person has changed teams, and also lone years (Favre is/was on two different teams for 1 year only per team).

I forsee a few changes in the algorithm to extract the Packers URL, it looks a little different for each player. We will need to get that sorted out

Also, it would be nice if you were able to give me names of lets say, 3-4 more players that might have a nice record for me to work with.

It is also able to pick up the Draft values. Please make sure I understood the values correctly and that they are being applied correctly. If I screwed up in reading something, it might be a problem later on :).

Another possible thing is the Gulfport, MS, which I believe redirects to a page with the fullname of the state. Either I could pick it up from DatabaseFootball, or I could ask the Wikibot to check if there is a redirect in place for the given state. Given I will have to eventually parse DatabaseFootball, that looks like our best bet.

Also I have updated my User:Aly89/Sandbox to reflect the latest page spit out by my bot.

Please let me know regarding anymore changes that need to be made. Also, I don't have much time today to continue with the coding. Hopefully, will pick it up tomorrow.

Aly89 (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Good to know about those pre tags :). Hopefully, will come in handy.

Last time I gave you the dump from my bot, but forgot to tell you how it worked :). Here is an explanation of it.

What basically happens is that, I have the template you created downloaded on my PC, and modified. Below is the modified template. As you can see, I have placed special dollar signs within the text. As per my system, all the text between the dollar is taken to be a unique "key". My bot parses the websites, and finds the "values" to those "keys". And after all the parsing is done, all the "keys" that are found, are replaced by their "values". This is mostly the reason why $TEAMS$ wasn't replaced last time. I never wrote the code to assign a value to that key, and hence my bot left it as is.

{{NFL player
|Image=Replace this image male.svg
|DateOfBirth={{birth date|$DOB-YEAR$|$DOB-MONTH$|$DOB-DAY$|mf=y}}
|Birthplace=[[$POB$]], [[United States]]
|DateOfDeath= 
|College=[[$COLLEGE$]]
|Position= [[$POSITION$]]
|DraftedYear=$DRAFTYEAR$
|DraftedRound=$DRAFTROUND$
|DraftedPick=$DRAFTPICK$
|Awards=
|Honors=
|Records=
|years=$YEARS$</br>
|teams=$YEAR-TEAMS$</br>
|Stats=y
|DatabaseFootball=$DATABASEFOOTBALLID$}}
'''$NAME$''' ($DOB$—$DOD$) was a $POSITION$ in the [[National Football League]] who played for the $TEAMS$.
<ref>{{cite web | title = Packers.com - $NAME$ | work = Packers.com | url = $PACKERSURL$ | accessdate = $TODAY-MONTH-DAY$ | accessyear = 2008 }}</ref> 
DRAFT STATUS/COLLEGE.  SEASONS PLAYED/RETIREMENT.
<ref>{{cite web | title = $NAME$ Statistics | work = Pro Football Reference | url = $PROFOOTBALLURL$ | accessdate = $TODAY-MONTH-DAY$ | accessyear = 2008 }}</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{quarterback-stub}}
{{runningback-stub}}
{{tightend-stub}}
{{widereceiver-stub}}
{{defensiveback-stub}}
{{defensive-lineman-stub}}
{{linebacker-stub}}
{{offensive-lineman-stub}}
{{Amfoot-kicker-stub}}
{{Amfoot-punter-stub}}

{{DEFAULTSORT: $LASTNAME$, $FIRSTNAME$}}
[[Category:$DOB-YEAR$ births]] 
[[Category:Year of death missing]]
$CATEGORY$

<!-- Metadata: see [[Wikipedia:Persondata]] -->
{{Persondata
|NAME              = $LASTNAME$, $FIRSTNAME$
|ALTERNATIVE NAMES = $ALIAS$
|SHORT DESCRIPTION = [[American football]]
|DATE OF BIRTH     = $DOB$
|PLACE OF BIRTH    = $POB$
|DATE OF DEATH     = $DOD$
|PLACE OF DEATH    = $POD$
}}

Latest page spit out by the bot is now updated at User:Aly89/Sandbox, and here is the diff to see the changes from the previous version [20]

Notable changes:

• The bot now parses the DatabaseFootball and is able to extract the ID of the player from their database.
• The bot is able to parse the "College" name from DatabaseFootball, which store it as a complete name
• Major changes to the timeline algorithm (once again). It got a flue when it came across the Jan Stenerud's profile.
• The bot is now able to list all the teams within the text, by replacing all the BR in the initial team list with a comma, so that it could be included within the article if required to do so.
• The bot is now able to spit out the categories as well. The categories as just produced by appending fixed letters around the team names and then append it at the end of the article.

There was another special instance. On the page of Ahman Green, it says that he has played for the Packers. However, a search on their site reveals no page dedicated to him. Which is rather odd, or am I missing some obvious fact?

A search for Reggie White on the pro-football reveals that there are multiple players with the same name (very much possible). I think the recommended system for skipping a name if any error is encountered should be in place. I will start working on that as well. [21]

Apart from this, what else is now left?

Also, I will start coding for the bot to actually access Wikipedia as well. Correct me if I am wrong, but the Bot Policy dictates that every bot should have its own account right? If so, is there any specific naming convention that has come into existence over the years?

Aly89 (talk) 15:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

• Apart from regular caffine, there is no fun in programming. Most of the time, you are snatching your hair off wandering why the heck the computer doesn't understand you the way you want it to. It is worse while programming algorithms, or looking at other people's code (which almost seems like Dark Magic or VOODOO) :)
• I can filter out "University" and "College". Any other key words I should filter?
• You just made things a little easier. I was actually going through the [22], and using the search function on the top, which leads to very strange results. I will re-program the packer's algorithm to go through that page. The search looks a little complex and will take sometime
• As per the error handling, I can do 2 things. 1) If it doesn't find a page, or comes across a weird thing it wasn't expecting, it might goto the next site to fill the information from next page and still continue. 2) It might completely stop the currently player, flag it and continue forward. Or 3) I could do a hybrid, to flag it and still continue.
• I actually read those policies after writing up the reply. Apart from being extremely long (Just like all WP Policies :)), it does say that a bot needs an account. Hence, I will create an account once I get the time.
• Cleaning up code is synonymous to saying, I used the worst methods possible while writing this. I would like to use better techniques once everything works. It also means adding error trapping, and last but not the least, cleaning up bugs that might be so stupid that programmers are too ashamed to share it with their colleges :). And yes, I would need to clean up my code as well :).

Other than that, I guess I will start with the coding for my bot to access Wikipedia. It might take a little time, since this is totally unexplored territory, and my studies are going with full force. Aly89 (talk) 20:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

So wait, do I really need to create an account and get it approved as a bot or not? I am kinda confused. If it is one of those gray areas, then I believe it is better to create on and get it approved (if required) Aly89 (talk) 23:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I would kindly ask you to talk a look at User talk:AlyBot. Apparently, one of the administrators was kind enough to block this bot. How shall I proceed? A message was left on the bot's talk page and on my talk page. Aly89 (talk) 02:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I just don't want a fight/argument/dispute to be created over this small bot. I am very well ready to go through the process of bot approval (once my bot is completed to that stage). However, I thought it would be prudent to do so of the editing testing via the Bot's account (so to make sure it didn't screw up anything else). Well thank you for doing that. Also, I didn't know if you notice or not User:AlyBot/Run provides a page where you can enter the number of pages for the bot to edit next time. I hope to make it so that, once you were finished with manually looking over those pages, you could change that page to a fixed number (0-20 ?), and when I would run the bot next time, I would process that many items. As far as markings are concerned, I was thinking of copying over the list of player from the page under your namespace to my bot's namespace and then strikeout the names once they are done, or flag them if there is any conflict in them. Apart from that, I did start coding for Wiki data retrieval and update, and I am glad to say, I was able to download Wiki from Wikipedia :). However, the bot was blocked before I could make an edit from my code. I will pick up the rest of the coding later this week. I have midterms and tests coming up, so the coding would slow down a little.

Just looked at the logs while typing this comment. You were kind enough to update the pages with their respective tags :). Thank you very much. I am only at 200 edits and obviously haven't made enough progess at Wikipedia :)

And reading more conversations with the other Administrator, please don't lose any reputation or create any specific argument over this bot :). I am a very non-violent person when it comes to arguments over Internet. My personal experience has taught me that. Anyways, thanks once again for your help :) I am truly in-debt for your help :) Aly89 (talk) 03:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, I know those nerves. Thank you for the speed with which you were able to clarify all the confusions :) [was reading through all the conversation regarding this bot]. Anyways, I am off to bed now, long day upahead tomorrow. And just on a side note (regarding which I have a rather nice smirk on my face right) I am a "he" not a "she" :D. I know most people get that confused give the resemblance of my firstname to an alias used for "Alisha" (if I am not mistaken; including my ex-boss's boss :)) Aly89 (talk) 04:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, restarting the indenting. It is getting a little insane :). Things to note:

• I have started parsing the special page you showed me www.packers.com. On my first couple of runs, I have managed to get reliable results.
• I was able to do test edits with the bot Special:Contributions/AlyBot (thanks to your unblock :)) on its namespace. More specifically, User:AlyBot/Run, was updated using code, and User:AlyBot/Sandbox was created using code. I will still have to sit down and implement the complete algorithm to publish pages on your namespace
• I still need to implement more error handling when it comes to parsing the different websites.
• Upon playing with the Wikipedia code a little, if a page doesn't exists, the code generates an error which is quite difficult to trap. I need to sit down and get that thing working properly (It would actually include modification of code of the DotNetWikiBot framework I am using to access Wikipedia). Things are made worse by the fact that I am programming in Microsoft technology while on Linux :).
• I wrote the initial function of the College filter algorithm with the "University and College" keyword. Will need to Tweak that a little. Things I would remove are: "University", "university", "University of" and "university of". Any more suggestions? Aly89 (talk) 21:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

The bot is written in C#. It is one of the "rather" newer .NET languages by Microsoft aimed at mass software development. Just like Java, Microsoft have attempted to remove the pain on the perspective from developers by pre-programming most things. Hence, they provide us with rather convenient functions which we can use to our benefit. This is quite good as compared to C or C++, where most of the things need to be written by hand. An example is, in order to download the HTML from a page, in C++, you have to write the entire code to communicate with the server. However, in C#, the same code requires about 2 lines :). This is essentially the reason I prefer my development on this platform where I need to make quick and robust code very effectively. Not to be a sales guy here, but essentially C# has inherited many good things over time from the various languages. But, I still do believe, that if you want to really program softwares, C++ is the way to go. (I know a little bit of C++ with respect to complex algorithms, etc, nothing quite substancially major).

Being on Linux, I am using the Mono framework to program in C#. Essentially, a bunch of linux gurus (mostly the company named Novell) have ported the .NET framework to Linux and named it Mono. Unfortunately, they haven't implemented things quite the same (you can say about 96% resemblence). I am using Mono because I am a rather new user when it comes to Linux and not a pro at the native languages like Perl.

I did plan on releasing the sourcecode of this bot under GPLv3 when I started writing it. I would most likely release the code once the bot is in that stage.

As with most languages, certain pre-programmed code (frameworks), allow quick access to Wikipedia. Hence, I am using the DotNetWikiBot framework for C#, which is aimed at making bot-developer's life easier in terms of Wikipedia. The framework was clearly written in Windows, but can be ported with the help of Mono. Unfortunately, there is one function (as far as I encountered), which doesn't quite behave the same. Hence, I will look into it, and if possible even submit a patch to the original developer to include it for his framework support for Linux (Can't guaruntee, mostly depends on the amount of time I have).

I will keep you updated as I make substaincial changes to the bot, and do some trial runs on the user space of the bot itself. After which, if everything works the way I advertised (:)), we should be ready for the bot approval! Now, I shall go back to writing a 20 page report and completing 4 assignments, and studying for the mid-terms :)! Regards, Aly89 (talk) 03:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey just out of curiosity, would it be beneficial to leave some kind of message at the Bot Requests page saying that this bot is under development. Do you want me to leave the message also stating that this is my first bot and the probability of me completing this bot? Aly89 (talk) 00:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

I just don't want spending useless hours working on it. Aly89 (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to go behind your back and do this. I just didn't want someone to spend precious time on it if we decide to carry forward Wikipedia:Bot_requests#A_difficult_request.3F. I hope I did the right thing notifying that this bot is in progress. If I made any mistake, please do tell me so that I might be able to clean things up. Aly89 (talk) 02:09, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

First time when I read your reply, I had no idea what you were talking about :). Then I actually went ahead to read the bot request page. It almost seems as if all the admins over here have most of the pages and their quick Wiki text drilled into their heads :).

Weekend is here, will keep you informed if I make any major progress with the bot :). Regards, Aly89 (talk) 23:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok quick update. My bot is really for alpha testing (the first phase in all software development testing where softwares are designed to be buggy). In some quick pre-pretests, my bot was able to generate the pages offline and dump it into a file. While doing that, [23] it was able to strikeout the names at User:AlyBot/PlayerList, and reset the run count to 0 at User:AlyBot/Run, once it was finished. Please see the history of the pages to make sure that the comment I programmed my bot to leave makes sense and does provide all the information needed as per the Bot Policy. Also, under the current working method, if a page generation is complete without any apparent error, it will go forward and strike the name from the list, and not bother to read it next time. If it does find an error, it will actually bold it, while dumping a file on my PC with the error details for me to investigate. Further analysis of pages like Brett Favre revealed that the name in the first line of the article (the main text), is the actual fullname. I was already capturing that from pro-football-reference, and decided to tweak the template to dump that name into the text. If you do not wish for this to occur, please tell me so, it is a 5 letter change in my current offline template. Also, do you want the fullname to be dumped in the Persondata template under the field Alias (I can format it to LastName, FirstName, if you wish). Also, if I do create new pages under the bot's namespace, how hard is it to get pages deleted (once we no longer need them for the obvious testing reasons). I also found a minor bug in my firstname and lastname extraction, and fixed. While writing this message, I just realized that my algorithm will fail by doing something really stupid. Will go and clean that up, it should take about 2 minutes. When you get this message, leave me a message whether I should go forward to create ~ 3-8 pages as per alpha testing. Once done, I shall leave you a message notifying you to go over the custom created lists. Also while writing the last sentence, I just figured out we need a page on the Bot's User Namespace, to be fully updated, (or partially with timestamps), listing the last pages that it created. Although, the same thing could be retrieved from a history diff, I can do so if you wish. Please tell me how you would like me to program in that respect. What is easier for you? Will go back to testing a little more, and if you do find this message tomorrow, or day after, I shall continue when I hear from you. Wow 2 piffanies in 3 minutes, Guinness World Record? Aly89 (talk) 02:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

After some trail runs, I found out that pro-football-reference does not store the data in the same format for older players. More specifically, they actually remove some columns from the table, and rearrange the above information. So, my bot failed to clear those things up. I will have to tweak and rewrite some lines of code to now make it more intelligent. I will also look into whether DatabaseFootball is also consistent with older players or not. Aly89 (talk) 03:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, after tweaking many many many things... my bot was able to make a few test edits. More specifically, please see User:AlyBot/PlayerList to see the striked list suggesting which pages have been created. I ran 2 tests. The first test involved setting the User:AlyBot/Run to 1 to produce 1 page. After that run, it seemed reasonable, so I ran 5 more. The exact log can once again be seen here [24]. It is also dumping a log at my local PC (more detailed) which can be used for analysis, if required later. It can be seen creating pages and modifying the list and run count once finished. Please go over the level of detail required in comments for creating a page. Please go over each and every page very thoroughly, and if you have any comments, forward them to me so that I can get working on it.

Things changed since last update

• I rewrote about 3-4 of the algorithms in my bot to compensate for a few things.
• Don't remember which player, but within the top 10, doesn't actually have a Databasefootball page, created a special handler for that
• General bugfixes
• One of the players in top 10 didn't have a few years associated to them at pro-football-reference, so my program kept on crashing. I added a specific handler to handle these situations and just left the Years as Blank in those cases.
• For the Year and Teams parsing to create a timeline, I am only parsing the first tables at pro-football-reference. For parsing all the tables, I would need to add special handlers. If there is some instance where all the years/teams don't show up in the first section of tables, please let me know and I will spend some time doing it.
• Adding the fullname to Alternative Names as LastName, FirstName. If the fullname is actually the name, it is not added.

If a few small changes are required, my bot can now actually update the content of their pages as well. So let us say, we don't like something, we tweak the template, remove the strike from the PlayerList, update the Run count and make my bot run. Instead of failing to see that page already exists, I now have a switch that can be used to instruct for it to actually update the page. So even though, the page exists it could be instructed to edit the page. By default, this option is turned off and it actually checks whether a page exists or not before making a new page, etc. If it is present, it throws an error to make sure that something weird is happening or not.

That is most of it. I will be a lot busy during the upcoming weeks b/c of my mid-terms, so I won't be as responsive as I am (Although I want to be. Coding this bot is a lot of fun, and I haven't been this much interested in any thing for quite some time now). So b/c of my keeness with this bot, I will be busy, but still end up replying and coding this bot (I need to get my priorities straightened out :)). Anyways, apart from that, please let me know of the changes required. You will see many spelling errors. Apparently, my Firefox thinks it is cool to not show the error suggestions! :). Aly89 (talk) 06:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Haha, I guess both of us will be busy a lot :). I will fix up the template for the dash issue. I must had missed it the last time around.

The first instance that I came across was this guy: Adolph Kliebhan. When search on DatabaseFootball, it only throws out Roger Kliebhan. Who, I am assuming, is a different person. But yes, the player that you did also had the same issue.

Do you want me to do the fix of the hyphen on the pages I have already generated? I guess it won't be a big of a matter either way, throguh a bot or by hand. After you are done with all those, and provide me feedback, I can go forward do a BRFA, and start publishing to your namespace, so it would be easier for you. Apart from that, I forgot to tell you, the A. D. Williams, I changed his name to A.D. Williams (no space), (or was it the other way round, I forget), anyways, b/c his name was stored in that particular way in the pro-football-reference database. So yes, that is what you get with stupid computers.

Looking at the edits you made, a lot of things are still done by hand. Is there anything particular that you have to do for all the players, that I might be able to program my bot to do (15 minutes by hand for 600 people, vs 30 minutes to program, and 0.1 seconds for bot to spit out :)). Sometimes, it might look like a complex thing that computer can't do, but in the end, as a programmer, if it is properly documented, it can be (sometimes) easy to do.

Apart from that, take your time. I am in no rush, and neither this thing has a deadline (I hope not :|). Regards, Aly89 (talk) 18:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

B/c bot creating pages in its own userspace is actually allowed, we can go ahead and not file a BRFA if we want. If you want me to file a BRFA, please let me know and I will do so. Also, I might delay on that 10 for a bit, b/c I have too much on my plate this evening. I will create the 10 pages tomorrow. I made some tweaks to the code, to make it a little more efficient. I would like to have some time on my hands to see whether they work the way I want them to. Sorry, I can't produce the pages immediately. I will let you know once I have published the 10 pages. Aly89 (talk) 21:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, 10 players done. More specifically, here is the diff of the PlayerList [25]. The bot encoutered an error in the DatabaseFootBall.com for 2 players, and wasn't able to continue, hence it skipped them. I ran a second process with 2 pages. So it parsed a total of 12 pages. The changes in the bot included a new beta update to the framework, after I posted the bugs of the existing framework to the developer incharge [26] and the developer was kind enough to fix it quickly. The framework is now working pretty well without any need for manual changes on my part. You can take a look at the contributions of my bot here Special:Contributions/AlyBot. Take your time, and finish up these pages are required. Also randomly, pick a player or two and make sure that his data/years/teams in the infobox and everywhere else is correct, and my bot is not going particularly insane. I did saw one instance, don't remember the name of the player, when my bot dumped on the console the University of a particular person, who seems to have attended 2 of them separated by a comma. I wasn't aware of this, and if this is a regular thing, I can write a function to split them up within 15 minutes (not big of a challenge), since it would now be a broken link. Also, if you wish (open ended choice), you don't have to remove the names of the player done. My bot is designed to read that page, skip everything in bold and strike. Other than that, everything looks nice. The whole process today was completely automated, I didn't touch the coding after the bot had been run. Obviously, now I will have to, to see what happened in those 2 players. Aly89 (talk) 15:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, no problem. Hope everything goes well at your end. I have been quite busy as well. My midterms as currently going on so, except my activity to decrease as well. This is one of the reasons, I still haven't looked into why those pages errored out. Just get to those pages when everything is comfortable and when you have free time. Aly89 (talk) 01:38, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow! My watchlist alerted me that you granted me Rollback rights. I had no clue what they were, and had to google them :). Awesome! Thanks! I will read on their usage after my midterms end! Thanks :) Aly89 (talk) 01:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks like there is a nice delay/drag in the realtime/non-realtime conversation of ours. :) I will sure go ahead and read up. Other than that, midterms look scary. So, just wanted to let you know that I would be a little late in replying to your messages. Other than that, hope your midterms went well. :) Aly89 (talk) 01:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. Things have been kind of hectic on my side as well. Dec/Jan sounds nice. I will make sure to iron out the bugs (hopefully, if I do get the chance). Other than that, see you in the holidays :). Aly89 (talk) 16:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Review

Hey there. I was wondering (again) if you could review me. (I should really file a WP:ER soon...) I just would like to see how I'm doing in your opinion. If you want, this time you can ask questions on the page for me to answer (if you want)! Thank you in advance, RyRy (talk) 04:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh, you probably didn't know when you were on break, but I already had an RfA. ;) -- RyRy (talk) 04:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I saw you add questions at the very top of recent changes, so I noticed rather quickly. :) I'll see how I can answer them. Though, I might have to run soon, so I'll complete them tomorrow or so. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 04:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Son Lux

Why did you delete that page? What do you mean the band isn't important? They sound pretty good to me. I'm listening to them right now and it's difficult to find information on them. If I should find it anywhere shouldn't it be on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.37.145.35 (talk) 23:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello! I deleted Son Lux because it didn't assert notability per the WP:MUSIC policy. There needs to be third-party reliable sources that are verifiable that assert that the band is in fact notable. I am sure they are a very good band, but just being good doesn't mean that Wikipedia should have a page on them. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 00:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I wasn't aware of this policy of Wikipedia's. Thank you for not flaming me and telling me to RTFM :) I was used to finding info on almost anything on Wikipedia. I'm just amazed that it chooses to reject information even when it's available (and posted). Son Lux really seems to be more then "my friend's band". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.37.145.35 (talk) 19:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem! Sometimes people here forget that there is another human behind the IP address or the user name :/ Yeah, that is a big debate with Wikipedia, whether or not we should have a page if there is info on the subject. But the thing is, if we didn't have these policies then sadly there would be a lot of hoaxes, fake articles, and articles on just about anything. Since we strive to be accurate, we kinda have to have outside sources to prove to us that the information is indeed true. Hope this helps! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

AlyBot block

Fine, if you want to unblock. But I have heard from at least one member of the BAG (which I note you're not a member of) in person that they would really prefer that bots make no edits at all pending approval. In the future, if you're going to give people somewhat contradictory advice about our bot policy, could you at least include a suggestion that if you're preparing a bot for approval, take some measures to let the BAG know? As it is over at WP:UAA the bots pick up "Bot" usernames all the time, and the policy is that unless it is a naturally arising suffix (i.e., a last name like "Cabot") they should be blocked immediately.

Now, that said, I don't usually block on sight ... often it's a clearly non-bot user completely unaware of this aspect of the username policy, and just leaving them a concern note is enough to prompt them to change their usernames. Or it's a bot from another-language wiki where there's no bot policy, equally unaware of the BAG's existence.

So, given an example of what was clearly intended to be a bot account, with no indication that this had been set up in a way consistent with policy, and every indication that it was intended to be going live, what else was I supposed to do? A block can always be lifted, as you did, a poorly-conceived unapproved bot can do a lot of damage and I didn't want to be the one having to explain at AN/I that "well, I felt I should have just assumed good faith, so I let it go".

And speaking of AGF, you could have exercised it too, writing a friendly note instead of acting as if you thought I was some of the trigger-happy admins that, yes, we have had at UAA (Yes, I know. I was once one). I only did this after careful review of what I could see, not just on the name basis alone. Daniel Case (talk) 03:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, after rereading the bot policy, he was in accord with it. I may have misunderstood or misrecollected my conversation. But that came in the greater context of the lack of communication between the bot people and us at UAA. The UAA bot flags all new "-bot" accounts and doesn't, in its comments, explain this. I'd love it, too, if it could check against RBA automatically (I think it checks against the user database and doesn't flag a bot that's been granted bot user status. But that's all). Obviously we need that aspect of bot policy noted in the comments HBC NameWatcherBot leaves ... right now, it actually suggests "block on sight". Daniel Case (talk) 03:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

FLCon

Thanks for entering. You can now start choosing your topics and lists. However, you will not be able to submit contest related FLCs until October 10 at 20:00 GMT. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 03:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review

Hi, saw your name at the volunteers list at Peer Review. Would you mind peer reviewing Major League Baseball? Thanks. --LAAFan^sign _review 21:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Problem with protection templates

Or, more specifically, with Twinkle. Lately I've been correcting protection templates which had expiration dates even though their associated protections (semi-protections, to be precise) were indefinite. The latest three were yours: CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series, Linkebeek, and Xbox 360 System Software. Perhaps it would be more prudent to do the protections manually? Waltham, The Duke of 02:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Replied. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Protection

Man, we so own WP:RFP. >:D Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 05:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Haha, sounds good! Take it easy. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 05:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Here, have a protstar!

File:Protstar.png		The Protection Barnstar
		For being extremely active at WP:RFP, you get this. Nothing else, I'm afraid. :( Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 00:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Markup help

As seen here, there is a scroll bar in your contents box. How can one do that?— Dædαlus ^Contribs /_Improve 10:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Came here through the power of WatchList. I believe Gonzo won't be available for a period of time due to Real Life emergency. However, taking a look at the page, this seems to be the reason why there is a scrollbar.

<div style="height: 225px; width: 260px; overflow: auto;">__TOC__</div>

It seems as though the TOC is restricted to a specific height and width, and the overflow being set to auto. Neat trick! Hope this solves your question. Aly89 (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

That is indeed the correct reason why there is a scrollbar. See here for an overview and demo. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:30, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Re your message: No problem. Glad to see you back and that all is relatively well. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:42, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Pat Nixon

Sorry, I wasn't aware it was the featured article.  :) Little Red Riding Hoodtalk 22:29, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Pz10.com

Can you look at Pz10.com and give an outside opinion on it? Speedy delete, PROD, AfD, leave it alone opinion. I know what I would normally do, but I got into a discussion with the editor and probably best to have an outside opinion. Thanks. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. You're right that an AfD is the better long term route. All posted. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with that. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame

Hi, just thought I'd let you know that according to the cleanup listing, the article currently has a broken citation template on it. Because the page is a Featured List, it would be great if it could be resolved quickly. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay great. That clean up listing is really handy and should help us find some bad FLs in the future (although unfortunately, not all of them are tagged), perhaps a link to it should be added at FLRC? Slightly more than 2% having issues isn't good, considering that these pages are meant to represent the absolute best of wikipedia, so I've informed every wikiproject and a bunch of users. Hopefully all of the articles will be fixed soon enough. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 17:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Protection of List of Mario series characters

I don't mean to be criticizing your decision to protect that page, I just wanted to point out, that page seems to attract vandalism pretty steadily (at least, during the brief time I have been active on Wikipedia) and the two or so instances of vandalism over the last day or so is not really any more vandalism than there usually is, so I don't know if a 5-day block will make much difference—as far as i can tell, the vandalism at that article doesn't ebb and flow like vandalism at more current-events-related pages, but is just something that's unavoidable because of the nature of the article, and will probably be back as soon as the block is up.

That being said, however, it will be nice anyway to have a couple days without having to worry about all the inane stuff that usually happens in that article! —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 04:50, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense; thanks for your explanation! The few articles on video games that I watch seem to attract all kinds of immature vandalism, but I agree with you that it's probably not a good idea to start with long-term protection if it hasn't been protected before. Thanks, —Politizer^{( talk • contribs )} 05:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Markup, which I hope you know something about,

Is there any markup you know of to insert a space between two words? Yes, I know about spaces, but as to a template I'm working on, specifically, the {{if:Value A|If true|IF false}} Quite simply, I have no if false, and it displays a tiny warning sign since there is no value for if false, and a regular space won't work, so I was wondering if there was a way one could code a space in. Any other punctuation won't work due to the nature of the template.— Dædαlus ^Contribs /_Improve 05:28, 16 October 2008 (UTC) I also posted this message on Gogo's page.— Dædαlus ^Contribs /_Improve 06:04, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

FLC

Hello, the FLCon is currently running and unfortunately part of the problem with it is that most of our current regular reviewers are entrants. I would hate for people to lose in the contest solely because of a lack of reviewers, so could you please take a look at some of the following FLCs if you have time?

• List of Honorary Fellows of Jesus College, Oxford
• List of acquisitions by Hewlett-Packard
• List of universities in Nova Scotia
• List of Governors of Arizona
• List of St. Louis Rams head coaches
• List of Vancouver SkyTrain stations
• List of Soul Eater chapters

Thanks for your time, Scorpion⁰⁴²² 14:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Anyway, something I've been wanting to do but have never gotten around to do it, is form a sort of "FL sweeps" because a lot of the FLs promoted in 2005 and 2006 are below present standards. We gave gotten most of the really bad ones, but there still a lot out there that could use a review and/or removal. So what do you think? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 03:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope, that was going to be my question for you. I have a hard enough time getting reviews at FLC and unfortunately, we're going lose one of our best reviewers in a few days. I'll pitch in where I can and try to make sure we always have a few FLRCs at a time, but I admit I'm not the world's greatest reviewer. I guess the easiest way is to try to recruit reviewers who could go through lists one list at a time and try to give reviews. Part of the reason I wanted two FLRC delegates is because I was hoping one of you could nominate lists and do reviews and the other could do closures, but that hasn't really happened. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 04:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, great. I'll see what that other FL director guy thinks too. And I just realized that List of popes was delisted, does that mean I'll be going to hell? Also, if you could give your opinion on this or this, it would be appreciated. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 04:20, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

In that case, we should form a gang called "The Devil's Pals" (or "The Christ Punchers") and make it our duty to delist every FL under "Religion, mysticism and mythology". I don't particularily like the formatting of List of Archbishops of Canterbury, so that could be our first target. List of popes (graphical) also has a lot of the issues that the List of popes had, so it could be a target too. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 04:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Jill Perryman

Hi Gonzo fan2007. I have restored the above article which you deleted in June. The lady is quite notable in Australia, and I think that the article now addresses that issue. I hope this is OK. Regards. Moondyne 07:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Replied for Gonzo fan2007 while on wikibreak. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:17, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

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Michael Gambon

Hello Gonzo fan2007. Back in September you protected Mr Gambon's page based on the request that I made here [27]. Since then a few editors including myself have contined to fix the links in his filmography so that they go to the correct pages. After a month or so the editor from Spain has returned to breaking those links and adding other ones that go to incorrect pages on a semidaily basis. I am wondering if you feel that you could semiprotect the page again for another month or so. I have come to you first since you are already familiar with what is going on. However, if you feel that I should go back to requests for page protection I will be happy to do so. Just drop me a quick line on my talk page. Thank you ahead of time for your time and assistance in this matter. MarnetteD | Talk 22:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Oops I only just saw the message on the top of your talk page. I will take this back to the proper page. Thanks for your time and best wishes to you in your life on wikipedia and off. MarnetteD | Talk 22:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Replied for Gonzo fan2007 while on wikibreak. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Request

Hi, sorry to bother you but do you think you can perform a copyedit or leave some comments for the article Lockdown (2008)? It is under FA review at the moment and it was requested that I find someone to copyedit it. I saw you on the peer review volunteers list and thought to ask.--WillC 22:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Replied for Gonzo fan2007 while on wikibreak. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:32, 18 December 2008 (UTC)