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Ryan Merkley on Lawfare Project podcastEdit

The Lawfare Podcast: Ryan Merkley on Why Wikipedia Works; this is the sort of stuff I listen to while I scrub dishes. If there's interest, I can instead listen, take notes, and write something up. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:35, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Considering that Merkley has revealed practically zilch about his plans, hopes, or even idle thoughts about the Wikimedia projects, I think a write-up would be welcomed by many people. -- llywrch (talk) 21:12, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: I was thinking of this as a short paragraph for "In the media", but if you wanted to make that a long 2 paragraphs or its own article, that would be ok too. I listened to about half of the podcast, jumping around a bit. The 1st half sounds pretty much like most of the current WMF stuff - though maybe I listen to more of that than is healthy. What I heard from the 2nd half sounded more interesting, e.g. editing by (non-US?) governments and what we can and can't do to stop it. Go for it! BTW I think I had a short interview with Ryan in last August's issue. Smallbones(smalltalk) 04:09, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
@Smallbones: your memory is getting almost as bad as mine: there was no interview with him, just a short profile & a link to his Wikimania talk. (I still have no idea what he intends to do as COO, & since C-level hires who don't share their dreams/plans at the beginning tend to have a short tenure at the Foundation, I'm mildly concerned he may be gone before we notice.) As for the podcast, it was clear from what he said that most of his information about Wikipedia is second-hand, which does not portend good things. -- llywrch (talk) 18:44, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I've since listened to it; I'm rather displeased with the podcast hosts. I think Ryan came out well; he gives all credit to the editing community. I'm going to mull this over before I write a draft. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Eddie891 (2020-06-09)Edit

Not sure what, but The Wikipedia Library just got a pretty substantial update. Could be worth covering Eddie891 Talk Work 11:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for posting Eddie891! We just deployed Authentication-based access which makes most of the library's content available through a single login instead of many individual accounts, and opens a bunch of content up to not requiring an application at all. Approximately 25,000 users can now access paywalled research immediately for free! Please let me know if you have any questions :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 12:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
@Eddie891: Could you write up a couple of long paragraphs for News and notes? Smallbones(smalltalk) 16:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Smallbones, Yeah I'll see what I can do
Samwalton9: could I email you some questions if I have them? Eddie891 Talk Work 20:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Yep, feel free :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Oh yes please do cover this, as mentioned above it's now supereasy to gain access to loads of content, I was put off by the rigmarole before but now it's great, I have access to things like the Oxford Dictionary of Biography :) Mujinga (talk) 17:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by USERNAME (2020-06-14)Edit

The Signpost should write about in the media blurb: Bayard Rustin was a key figure in the civil rights and gay rights movements (koavf)TCM 18:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Got it started at In the media. Smallbones(smalltalk) 01:46, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia editing problemsEdit

briefly, see phabricator task and public incident documentation. Too technologically advanced for me, but perhaps someone could summarize? Eddie891 Talk Work 19:21, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Madcoverboy (2020-06-17)Edit

The Signpost should write about a new pre-print (not yet published but currently under peer review) by yours truly analyzing Wikipedia's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Madcoverboy (talk) 14:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Madcoverboy, Do you mind sharing this at Talk:Wikipedia's response to the COVID-19 pandemic as well? ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:18, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
@HaeB: - does this look good for Recent research? Otherwise, it's a paragraph in News & notes, or wait 'till next month. Smallbones(smalltalk) 01:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, we (Miriam) already tweeted it, and it's definitely going to be on the list for RR. Regards, HaeB (talk) 02:16, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
When it's published you might be able to push a brief summary as to how we avoided misinformation over at Misinformation related to the COVID-19 pandemic#Wikipedia as well. --Masem (t) 01:36, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

WikiJournal of Medicine will be included in Scopus (2020-06-18)Edit

WikiJournal of Medicine, a peer-reviewed open access journal hosted in Wikiversity will be accepted into Scopus. OhanaUnitedTalk page 22:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Additional details here. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 12:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Smallbones for N&N? I can write a bit up if you want. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Eddie891 Please do write it up. I'd think 1 or 2 paragraphs, but it's up to you. Smallbones(smalltalk) 02:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by DePiep (2020-06-28)Edit

Could The Signpost clarify what the "rebrand / rename" topic is about? I could use an introduction. DePiep (talk) 21:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Eddie891 (2020-06-30)Edit

Citizendium over? Eddie891 Talk Work 00:59, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Olive MorrisEdit

The Signpost should write about... Olive Morris, who was recently featured on a google doodle, meaning that her wikipedia page got checked almost 300,000 times on 26 June! Mujinga (talk) 11:14, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikilambda project approved by Board of TrusteesEdit

Wikilambda, a proposed Wikimedia project, has been approved by the Board of Trustees. This topic was previously covered by the Signpost in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2020-04-26/In focus. The announcement was made in the mailing list and on Meta. --Yair rand (talk) 18:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Possible tempest in a teapot over the Kamala Harris articleEdit

Today The Intercept on Talk:Kamala_Harris#It_got_noticed. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:59, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Also The New York Post. What's really interesting is that the Wikipedia edit volume (>500 edits) is being cited as proof that Harris will a vice presidential candidate. [1] Are Wikipedia edits now a reliable predictor of the future? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:26, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
    Apparently it is.   Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:37, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Stefan Kühn (2020-07-03)Edit

Screenshot "The Book" with an english page (300+ language available)

The Signpost should write about the new tool "The Book". I want to inform the English community about my new project "The Book". This project shows the Wikipedia like a old lexicon in a multi-column page. You can turn to the next or previous page. All article are in alphabetic order and "The Book" shows only the first text section and the first image. Also you can go to a specific title or random page. It is in 300+ languages available.

It is fun to explore our Wikipedia with this new way. You will find many interessting articles on your way in "The Book". --sk (talk) 15:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

WMF pushes switch to GitLab without RFCEdit

The WMF announced that they'll be moving the code review and CI systems to GitLab, without first having a public discussion on it with the developer community. The (completely predictable) outcry is taking place on mw:Talk:Wikimedia Release Engineering Team/GitLab. --Yair rand (talk) 21:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Maximilianklein(CS) (2020-07-09)Edit

The Signpost should write about... New Research on the Effects of Thanking Others on Wikipedia(s).

CAT Lab partnered with Arabic, German, Persian and Polish language Wikipedias to answer whether using the thanks button could increase participation, in two new studies.

In a field experiment that organized experienced Wikipedians to thank thousands of editors, we found that receiving a Thanks increased two week retention by 2 percentage points on average. Receiving thanks also causes recipients to send 43% more thanks on average (preprint [2]).

A partner study looked at the effects on senders of giving Thanks. While we did not find an effect, this could be because many volunteers already felt emotionally drained from their efforts on Wikipedia and weren't able to complete the study. Because of this, we made valuable discoveries about who spends time supporting others, how they think about the intentions of newcomers, and how they feel about their work (preprint [3]).

Maximilianklein(CS) (talk) 22:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, we'll make sure to cover both in "Recent research"! Regards, HaeB (talk) 16:03, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by SuperGoose007 (2020-07-10)Edit

The Signpost should write about... the current discussion on WP:COIN about the paid editing company known as Wikiprofessionals, and how they might be related to other sockpuppeteers. SuperGoose007 (Honk!) 19:05, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Bri: and I are both aware of this. What we'll do is another question, especially in regards to objective reporting. Suggestions welcomed. Smallbones(smalltalk) 02:49, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
I kind of suggested that the ball get rolling actually [4]. Which puts me in a strange place as a Signpost contributor. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:20, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

"List of sex symbols" deleted after 18 yearsEdit

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of sex symbols (4th nomination) might be worth mentioning. This page had existed since 2004 (with a brief interruption, being recreated in 2006 shortly after a previous AfD deletion). Because of the page's large revision history, the deletion required steward rights. Around the time of the deletion nomination, the list had over 1000 entries and 1446 citations. (Not going to cover it myself, as I !voted in the discussion.) Regards, HaeB (talk) 08:22, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggesetion - Is Wikipedia a freebie political election campaign toolEdit

I don't know if you could use this, but I've noticed a trend at AFD, on articles I didn't know existed, or that we even allow. Since the outcome at AFD is up to the community to decide - often more so than Wikipedia rules or guidelines - these things go both ways. Along the lines of WP:NOTNEWS, we seem to be reporting news events, anyway. Please see Category:Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign and Category:Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign. We keep updated/current events articles listing the endorsements both have received, and continue to receive. Shouldn't such lists be on an individual candidate's website, not Wikipedia? We have articles covering their individual rallies, fairly quickly following same. Some of them are up for AFD. I believe I saw (somewhere) one of each candidate that had been deleted through AFD, but it looks like which direction that swings, depends on who can amass the most "Keep" votes. Democracy is great ... but is Wikipedia being used a freebie campaign tool? — Maile (talk) 22:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

The problem lies with the inclusionists among us; they would keep any article so long as it doesn't benefit a business, even if it were free campaign material. I have been against chasing flash-in the pan news coverage but no one else agrees with me. I don't see how The Signpost could write honestly about this without condemning our readers who are certainly to blame. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:38, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
This is a symptom of our appetite for 24-hour cable news, which is always starved for something to report. Now we have stupid articles such as Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States. I always lived by the philosophy that if an endorsement was important or impactful (such as Jim Clyburn's endorsement of Joe Biden), then it should be incorporated into the text of an article about the candidate, their campaign, or the election. But alas, these all technically pass GNG. I'm in agreement with Chrish, though; this isn't something for The Signpost to address directly. Might make do for an opinion piece. -Indy beetle (talk) 18:28, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Another Believer (2020-07-22)Edit

"How volunteers created Wikipedia’s world-beating Covid-19 coverage"

---Another Believer (Talk) 22:35, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by OhanaUnited (2020-07-28)Edit

A new research found 5 cases of peer-reviewed papers plagiarizing Wikipedia articles.[5] OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:50, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Another Believer (2020-08-07)Edit

"Covid-19 is one of Wikipedia's biggest challenges ever. Here's how the site is handling it." The Washington Post:

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:23, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion by Enwebb (2020-08-09)Edit

A member of WikiProject Palaeontology discovered a hoax article Mustelodon. This is the longest-lived hoax to be documented on English Wikipedia, at nearly 15 years from creation to discovery. I wrote a small snippet for the Tree of Life Newsletter for this month, and you might find it interesting enough to include in the Signpost. For more info, see the talk page at WP:PALAEO here. Enwebb (talk) 13:53, 9 August 2020 (UTC)