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@DannyS712:, you should report on the creation of {{Newsletters}} and invite people to add Newsletters that are missing from it to relevant section. If they can't figure it out themselves, just dropping a message on the template's talk page should be good. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:30, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

@Headbomb: report it where? News and notes? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
That's where I was thinking. Open to other locations, but it seems weird to include in tech report. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:45, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
@Headbomb: Okay. I'm adding it --DannyS712 (talk) 00:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Cool. It'd be a good idea to send a mass message about this to to all Wikiprojects. You're a mass messenger, and I'm a bit fuzzy on the details here. What's the steps for this? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:56, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
@Headbomb: All of them, or the ones listed as having newsletters (or just the active ones). Basically, get me a list of pages you want a message posted to, and what message you want posted, and I can send it --DannyS712 (talk) 01:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
It would be all of them, since it's hard to know which newsletters have slipped through the cracks, or have non-standard names. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
@Headbomb: Okay. Ready when you are - see Wikipedia:Mass message senders#Before making your request for the things I need (targets and content) to send a message. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:15, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── It might even be nice to list all newsletter issues that have come out since the last signpost. It could even be possible to have a section where newsletters can transclude/substitute in a little 100-200 word summary of an interesting update? T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 11:21, 5 June 2019 (UTC) It seems the sort of thing that could be automated. Example of labelled section transclusion from Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life/Newsletter below:

On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.


Suggestion by Clovermoss (2019-06-20)Edit

I have a two suggestions for what the Signpost could write about:

  1. Wikipedia:Time Between Edits 900,000,000 edits was reached on June 2, 2019, which means there's only 100,000,000 before 1000 million edits. Even if that isn't interesting, this page is. There's statistics for the time between each block of 10,000,000 edits to Wikipedia since 2001 and the general data associated with that is incredibly interesting.
  2. Today's article for improvement WP:TAFI (which is actually a weekly article for improvement, but that's not reflected in the name anymore) Bookworm (insect). There's been amazing improvements to the article this week.

Clovermoss (talk) 16:43, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Z. Williamson (2nd nomination)Edit

This is probably late, but if there's room on the funnypages or whatever, there's a rather vigorous Afd going on. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I looked at the AfD and the article and am sorta wondering what's the big deal. 2 guesses - it's trying to break the record for the longest AfD in history; and it's the most obvious case of canvassing in history. OK, if you want to try this as a Humour article, you've got 6 days to get it in. Let's see re: our non-humorous humour requirements - no putting down the military, scifi readers - that's about it. As far as gun owners and right-wingers - those are life-style choices so you can certainly mention them and give your opinion, but the point of the article should not be to put down these folks. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:04, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't think I'm in the proper frame of mind to attempt it. As a bonus, there's a decently long ANI-thread, too: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Long-term_sockpuppetry_at_AFD. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
...however, maybe others would be interested. Haukurth, Britishfinance, 6YearsTillRetirement? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:06, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
I think this is worth reporting on - huge AfD, a large amount of SPAs, controversial character, off-wiki canvassing etc. etc. - but maybe just as two lines in a "what happened since the last Signpost"-type listing. These are the kind of "mini-events" that it would be nice to be alerted to in the SP for those who did not see it. Britishfinance (talk)
I second Britishfinance's suggestion. Haukur (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
"Recent AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Z. Williamson (2nd nomination) had over 2000 pageviews the first day, has been commented on by more than 80 editors and spawned an ANI discussion which resulted in the banning of the article subject. It's a brave new world, though there is some disagreement on whether it resembles a Utopia or 1984." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:44, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm still thinking that a humor column would be the best place for this, but it definitely needs somebody to volunteer to write it quickly. If we want a 2 line entry for it, perhaps somebody could write this up and leave a ping for @Pythoncoder: for the Discussions column. Smallbones(smalltalk) 23:43, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

The ado over the fake spoiled plot of "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"Edit

External articles [1] [2]. (mind you, spoilers for the film here, but the general point can be gotten by a skim)

Short summary: prior to the film's wide release, an IP editor added a plot summary based on the fact that the film had been shown at Cannes FF. None of the other editors there were aware this summary was patently false until movie critics, who HAD seen the film at Cannes, called Wikipedia out for it. This has led to debate (at the film's talk page, and at WT:FILM) about when is it fair game for WP to include a spoiler summary of a film that has yet to hit wide release. As well as whether WP should respect wishes of content creators (Taratino here, who had written an open letter in May to the world at large about not spoiling the film), or follow our policy that when a film does it wide release, a plot summary becomes fair game. --Masem (t) 19:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Will the story still be interesting next month? I don't want to discourage suggestions, but I'd really like to encourage them with at least three days to go before publication. There are always lots of last minute things going on, so I'm very reluctant to start a new story in the last few days. Smallbones(smalltalk) 02:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes and I think the story here is less Tarantino's wishes (Wikipedia is not censored yadda yadda) and more about the abuses of not requiring text/linked verifiability for plot sections. Saying it's sourced to the primary source is akin to giving a book citation without a page number: good luck verifying the contents. czar 22:04, 3 August 2019 (UTC)