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Archive 3

Cleaning up textile printing

Quiet in here.

I've started cleaning up textile printing but it's still mostly very dense 1911 Britannica text and there is lots to do. I've moved and reworked text from "Methods of printing" and "Styles of printing" to make an introduction. I've standardized on British spelling (that had been partially done).

Remaining to do:

• Pull out long digressive sections into their own articles and leave a summary and cross-reference here
• Add techniques invented in the last 100 years
• Watch for "presently" and similar wording from the 1911 EB
• Tighten up the text; I think we can lose about a third of the bulk by removing Edwardian phrasing and POV
• Tighten or remove "how-to" content
• Add images - I have some of roller-printing, need to scan them
• Watch for scattered minor vandalism - I've found some already

Please help where you can! - PKM (talk) 20:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Bead crochet

An article I started looks like it's headed for DYK. We'll know in a day or two. Durova^Charge! 04:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

On 5 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article bead crochet, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Granny square

On 12 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Granny square, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

I made sure the project template was on its talk page before the DYK went live this time. Am thinking of starting/expanding some other stubs for DYKs. The DYK folks need images that aren't human heads or buildings and the main page attention may draw more people into this project. Cheers, Durova^Charge! 16:11, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Dye lot

On December 16, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article dye lot, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Another DYK for us. Durova^Charge! 21:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Update

Been spending a lot of time over at Commons uploading new images and sorting categories. Adding commonscat links to textile articles as appropriate along with a few expansions/citations and wikignome work. Put in a request for some graphics assistance over at Meta in order to expand the crochet coverage: terminology varies so much from country to country that international notational symbols are really necessary to cover some aspects of the subject.

The lastest article headed for the DYK pool is crochet thread. Need to expand it and add line citations. Most of the effort so far isn't visible on the page because of the work I've put into illustrating the concept of thread weight: I've designed and made a filet crochet sample and replicated the same design in three different thread sizes. Need to block them overnight before photographing. I've also acquired a good collection of early twentieth century crochet lace hooks that I'd love to upload if I can elimiate the photographic glare. Best wishes, Durova^Charge! 02:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Added a DYK nom for Stitch marker (crochet). Also provided images for Tunisian crochet and blocking (textile arts) along with adding the demonstration of thread weight to crochet thread. Revamped the crochet template. Durova^Charge! 20:35, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

On 21 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article crochet thread, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well done! This is great stuff. - PKM (talk) 18:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

On 23 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stitch marker (crochet), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Clothing nominated for Wikipedia:Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive

This article is rated as a core topic, which means it's one of the 150 most important articles for any encyclopedia to have. Start-class with multiple cleanup flags: it could use some help. The nomination is here - sign up if you'd like to help! Durova^Charge! 09:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Draft newsletter

I've written a draft newsletter for January here. Suggestions and submissions are welcome. I'll be looking for technical assistance about BrownBot for distribution. Durova^Charge! 05:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to our newest member

Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles has just joined us. His expansion of history of clothing and textiles was vital to raising it from a stub-class to a start-class article. That page now has 16 line citations thanks to his efforts. Glad to have you with us! Durova^Charge! 05:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome, and well met! - PKM (talk) 19:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Expansion of Navajo rug

Our latest nominee for DYK is more ambitious than the last ones. This was already a three paragraph stub so it needed a minimum 15 paragraphs to qualify. Now it has a bit more than that and 28 line citations. This could become a legitimate candidate for good article if a couple more people pitch in. I've contacted Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America to solicit more editors and of course everyone here is encouraged to join the effort. This project has one GA so far at history of silk. Let's make Navajo rug the second! Happy holidays, Durova^Charge! 11:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Well done! I added another image from the Commons. - PKM (talk) 19:21, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Good find. I had been looking for something like that. Durova^Charge! 19:28, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I've rated Navajo rug as B-class, mid importance for this project. Seriously considering upping that to A-class. Thoughts? - PKM (talk) 08:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

A-class is supposed to be post-GA (although I've never understood why). I'd like to wrap up the improvements in a few days and put in a GAC. Durova^Charge! 08:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Another DYK

On 28 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article hook gauge, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Durova^Charge! 03:56, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Referencing aid

This is going to come out in the newsletter in a few days, but just to make sure it isn't overlooked I'll announce it here also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts/References is no longer a redlink! I've run Gutenberg Project for the keywords from all our top-importance articles and created an online referencing page so now it's easier to add citations to our articles. Durova^Charge! 22:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Yee-haw! - PKM (talk) 23:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, this is great! Thanks! – DroEsperanto^{(talk|contribs)} 17:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

History of clothing and textiles

I've started expanding History of clothing and textiles; not much time for the next couple of weeks but I will work as I am able. More info on the Talk page. - PKM (talk) 23:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 31 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Navajo rug, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

That makes seven for the month. Durova^Charge! 16:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Great work! - PKM (talk) 17:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Expansion of Smocking

I started an expansion of the article on the first, which puts this in a bind now as a DYK submission. I've located an entire book chapter on the subject (Reader's Digest, but actually quite well done) and am planning to expand further with material from a smocker's association website. In terms of overall length I think this can meet the 5x requirement for submission. Now here's the rub: the only illustration I was able to locate on Commons is a sixteenth century painting that provides cultural background but not technical detail. What this means is...groan, sigh...I'm going to attempt some illustrative smocking examples myself. Materials aren't a problem and technical skill probably isn't either, but time is (shame on me for not starting this days ago).

So this is a lark because hand smocking is something of a lost art - if anyone has a ready made example and uploads lickety split, I will be extremely grateful. Durova^Charge! 06:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

No need now; created it myself. Durova^Charge! 01:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

On 7 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article smocking, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Update

• WillowW has made some wonderful crochet schematics at commons:Category:Crochet_symbols. Thank you!
• Shell stitch is currently in the waiting line for DYK.
• Palestinian costumes came to my attention the other day. I've added it to our project and assigned it mid-importance B-class. For Wikipedia:WikiProject Palestine it's a high importance article, so there may be some synergies to collaborating with them.
• Plainweave is my newest article; I'll be fixing it up for DYK in the next couple of days.
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history has a lot of strong FA writers. I've left them a query to see if they'd like to collaborate on an FA drive for Bayeux Tapestry, which is currently B-class. The page has a good list of reference works that I'm planning to request on interlibrary loan.
• Clothing is moving toward acceptance as Wikipedia's collaboration of the week. Right now it's second in line, which means the collaboration will probably go live on January 16.

Durova^Charge! 02:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Reorganization of Knitting

Hey gang,

I've proposed a reorganization of the knitting article. I'd appreciate any help at Talk:Knitting. Thank you!

Also, I haven't been very active in the past few months, but it seems you guys have being doing a great job. Keep it up! – DroEsperanto^{(talk|contribs)} 18:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, welcome back. :) I'll go check it out. Durova^Charge! 01:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

I'm a couple of days late with this one. Here goes...

On 12 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shell stitch, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Been helping the Palestinian costumes article lately (at the expense of some other stuff). They've got a good B-class article and several people working to improve it. With a better introduction and standardized referencing I think that could be a GA. Doing my best to help get it there - wouldn't it be nice for this project to have a second GA? :) Durova^Charge! 01:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Good article candidate

Palestinian costumes is a nominee for GA at Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations#Culture_and_society. Cheers, Durova^Charge! 20:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome our newest member

Greetings to Bluevalkyrie, who joined us the other day! Durova^Charge! 22:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome! Feel free to ask anyone if you have any questions about the project. – DroEsperanto^{(talk|contribs)} 19:45, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Our portal gets a facelift

We've had an attractive portal that wasn't being maintained, Portal:Textile arts. I've updated the content to reflect our newest DYK entries, to highlight a featured article and a featured picture related to our project, and to show a different biography. I've also added links to the fashion and culture portals, which was technically a bit trickier than it sounds. It's good to change these things from time to time so please leave word when you make significant improvements to an article, so we can give your work the attention it deserves. Durova^Charge! 22:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Very nice! I'm wrapped up with Jacobean artists at the moment, but should be back here soon. - PKM (talk) 22:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I've put the page up for portal peer review. Durova^Charge! 18:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 22 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Felbrigge Psalter, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Didn't want too much time to go by without more of these. :) There's a second one in the waiting line. Standards have risen to 2000 characters minimum, which is around 450 words. Durova^Charge! 18:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

On 23 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Miroir or Glasse of the Synneful Soul, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Indigo dye

I want to add the chemical properties list to the article, there is no seperat article about Indigotine or what the molecule is sometimes called. This would change the face of the article from Indigo dye to more like Indigo carmine. As this article is abridge between the chemistry project and the WikiProject Textile Arts I wanted to ask if this is OK with you.--Stone (talk) 21:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for asking. Sounds fine. Durova^Charge! 21:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

February newsletter

All registered members of the project have received our newsletter. If you're dropping by and aren't a member yet, it's at Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts/Newsletter. Free montly delivery for everyone who signs onto our project. :) Durova^Charge! 23:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Goings-on

A vintage 1940 color photo of a quilter and her log cabin.

Our project may pick up its first featured pictures soon: I've restored this early Kodachrome photo and put it onto picture peer review. Fortunately it's public domain. Also, we've got another Template:Did you know entry in the waiting line in Textiles of Oaxaca. Cheers, Durova^Charge! 04:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 8 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Textiles of Oaxaca, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

) Durova^Charge! 18:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates

Our project currently has three images under consideration for featured picture status:

• Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates#Spinning_wheel featured
• Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates#Quilter.2C_1940 featured
• Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates#Felbrigge_Psalter featured

Durova^Charge! 06:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yahoo! Good job! – DroEsperanto^{(talk|contribs)} 01:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Two of these now, a third still in candidacy. I'm restoring another possible nom. Durova^Charge! 08:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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Another one:

• Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Navajo family, 1873 featured
• Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Japanese weaver featured
• Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Pigments for sale featured
• Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Elizabeth I embroidery votes 4-2 right now; might be too similar to the Felbrigge Psalter to pass.
• Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Bedouin_woman unanimous so far

Another DYK

On 15 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Textile arts, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

- PKM (talk) 04:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Awesome! Durova^Charge! 04:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Navajo rug at WP:GAC

Time to put Navajo rug into the mix. Our project may have four good articles soon (Palestinian costumes is almost at the top of the review pile). Durova^Charge! 22:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome our newest member

Thedagomar has been doing fine work with article assessments, uncovered a hidden GA in the slush pile, and has helped with despamification and the featured portal drive. He's joined our project officially today. So let's give him a warm and grateful welcome! Good to have you with us. :) Durova^Charge! 22:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome. I plan on finishing cleaning up the slush pile. Geoff Plourde (talk) 22:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome, and thanks for attending to the slush pile. - PKM (talk) 06:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Adieu Slush Pile!

Its gone. Geoff Plourde (talk) 19:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Palestinian costumes becomes a GA!

The article passed review today. :) Durova^Charge! 23:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Terrific, congratulations! - PKM (talk) 03:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

FYI

Crunching a few numbers here.

Overall:

• About 1 in 627 Wikipedia articles is listed as a good article.
• About 1 in 1,170 Wikipedia articles is listed as a featured article.
• Our project currently has 470 total articles with 1 FA, 3 GAs, and 1 GAC.

That puts us ahead of the curve because on average it would take a random surf of 3051 articles to find 1 FA and 3 GAs. If the GAC nomination for Navajo rug passes then our 470 articles would have as much quality material as a random surf of 3678 articles. And if we pull out a fifth GA we'll be a full order of magnitude ahead of the game. Statistically that might not be too significant over such a small sample, but it's a good excuse to pat ourselves on the back and keep going. :) Durova^Charge! 01:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Portal improvement drive

As a result of portal peer review we've got a couple of people helping on a drive to get our portal featured. Many thanks to Cirt, who's an expert at getting portals featured. He'll be automating our portal on a rotation script and he's given fantastic input on the things featured portal voters look for. Geo.plrd has volunteered to help improve the articles that will be in rotation.

The good news is we're in great shape with images and "Did you know?" entries for the portal. Once our newest candidate gets selected we'll have 18 DYKs, which means six groups of three will be in rotation. I've been downloading and restoring vintage photographs and prints to upgrade the image portion of the portal. You can help by improving the articles listed below. Input is welcome here and at Portal talk:Textile Arts. Durova^Charge! 04:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Goal is to get these all to B-class or better:

Articles

1. Cochineal
2. History of silk
3. Palestinian costumes (at WP:GAC)
4. Navajo rug (close to WP:GAC)
5. Knitting pretty good B
6. Tyrian purple pretty good B
7. Smocking needs expansion
8. Textile preservation needs polishing
9. Weaving needs help
10. Wool needs help
11. Indigo dye needs copyediting and references
12. Carpet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedagomar (talk • contribs) 07:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Biographies

Really we ought to have 10 good biographies to put in rotation. So far only three are presentable. Please help improve them, and upgrade more bios!

1. Elizabeth Zimmermann needs citations
2. John Henry Dearle pretty good
3. William Morris needs longer introduction and copyedit
4. We need more good biographies!

(Please note: we're switching over to fiction because of a shortage of biographies). Durova^Charge! 23:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Biographies, revisited

Featured portal drive material. The featured portal voters will want 10 solid biographies at B-class or better. Please help! Durova^Charge! 10:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

In order to prioritize our weakest area, here goes:

Tolerable:

1. Elizabeth Zimmermann = Start-class, No relevant free-use image in article.
2. John Henry Dearle = B-class, free-use image of work in article.
3. William Morris = B-class, free-use image of individual in article. WP:LEAD could use expansion.
4. Betsy Ross = B-class, relevant free-use image in article. WP:LEAD could use expansion.

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Needing work:

1. Rosey Grier - newly tagged for our project, needs assessment and possible expansion. Might team up with the football project for this?
2. Debbie Stoller - start class, needs expansion
3. Joseph Marie Jacquard - stub class, needs expansion and referencing
4. Mary Brooks Picken - needs expansion, very listy
5. Erica Wilson - stub, needs expansion and an image if possible
6. Marianne Kinzel - stub, needs expansion and an image if possible
7. Federico de Vinciolo - stub, at least it has an image
8. Mariska Karasz - stub, needs expansion and an image
9. Shannon Okey - stub, needs expansion and an image
10. Teresa Wentzler - stub, at least it has an image
11. May Morris - stub, has an image; good candidate for expansion

Comment

You may want to post a similar notice requesting help at other relevant WikiProjects, which may be specific to each bio article. (And also the main Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography. Cirt (talk) 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Add mary Queen of ScotsGeoff Plourde (talk) 08:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, giving this a start: I've written to Ms. Stoller through her magazine asking for source material and dropped a line at the NFL project about Rosey Grier. Does anyone know the folks at the biography project? It's probably better to sound them out rather than trying to dump a list in their laps. Durova^Charge! 09:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Finds:

• Sir William Henry Perkin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Durova (talk • contribs) 07:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
• Eli Whitney
• William Madison Wood
• Jedediah Strutt
• Samuel Slater
• Richard Arkwright

A fun freebie

A flying carpet! And it's already a featured picture.

Please help finding a home for this image at an article within our project scope. It isn't in any of our own articles yet and it ought to be.

BTW, among our 7 current FPs we've gotten two freebies and both of them come from Russian editors. One of our current FPCs is a restoration of an image supplied by the Palestinian wikiproject. Looks like there are synergies here and I'll be following up on the image collaboration angle. Durova^Charge! 19:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

It is already in the article Magic carpet. Just tag that as part of this project, and assess quality/importance. Cirt (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

All right, done. Durova^Charge! 05:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Spam patrol

The single greatest barrier to article improvement for this project has been spam maintenance. So I'm tagging a lot of our articles with {{subst:NoMoreLinks}} to reduce the mom-and-pop (mostly mom) spam. Durova^Charge! 20:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Covered the top-importance and high-importance articles. Still have the rest of the batch to go. Durova^Charge! 21:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Working my way through B and Start Geoff Plourde (talk) 05:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

New articles

I have created Slip (needlework) and put it up for DYK. - PKM (talk) 19:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Good luck with the nomination. Durova^Charge! 04:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Short draw (spinning) is also a brand new article. (Well, it's a few days older...) Loggie (talk) 19:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Could it make DYK? Durova^Charge! 19:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hm, if you can fill it out more than this it might make DYK as an expansion article. If you can get it to 5x the original article size, then leave word and I'll help craft the nomination. Durova^Charge! 20:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, it is 5x the original size now, I think, and any suggestions on what else I could add would be appreciated. Loggie (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's enough expansion. More citations would help, of course. I'll write up a hook and submit it. Good work! Durova^Charge! 20:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

For the next few months I only have access to online references, or, in this case, the magazine article I remembered reading and happened to find online. There aren't many sites online talking about various spinning techniques in any detail, sadly. When I get home though.... Loggie (talk) 21:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

One source is the minimum for DYK, so this meets the basic requirement. Thanks! Durova^Charge! 23:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Loggie (talk) 11:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

In an effort to put off bedtime, there is now long draw (spinning) as well, which I'd been meaning to make for awhile. Loggie (talk) 22:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Good stuff! - PKM (talk) 03:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheers! Slip got into DYK. :) Durova^Charge! 21:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Saving this for the newsletter

• ...that canvaswork designs of plants called slips appliquéd on silk or velvet (pictured) were often based on woodcuts from herbals? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Durova (talk • contribs) 21:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter time

It's time to start drafting our March newsletter. This project has really picked up! Used to be I'd scrounge for enough material to fill a respectable page; now the challenge is remembering to thank everybody who's done good work in February. Please list your contributions below. Don't be shy. And if you try to be bashful, I may just dig up your work anyway and make it more prominent. ;) Durova^Charge! 20:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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Please list user name and Feburary contributions.

1. Cirt and PKM: featured portal drive.
2. Thedagomar: article assessments. Finds a hidden GA in the slush pile.
3. PKM: Textile arts DYK, possibly another DYK? (still in process) slip (needlework) DYK. - PKM (talk) 01:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
4. Featured pictures: 5 for this month so far, possibly more before March 1.
5. Good articles: Palestinian costumes becomes a GA. Navajo rug and Carpet at GAC.

Welcome our newest member

Cirt is a powerhouse at getting portals featured. He's been very generous with his time and effort for our little wikiproject and joined our numbers yesterday. Let's give him the thanks and welcome he deserves! Durova^Charge! 20:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Portals are by their very nature a collaborative effort - it would have been nigh on impossible for me to generate all the content for all the featured portals that I have worked on. Likewise, for Portal:Textile Arts to get to WP:FPORT status, it would really help if people could work on the biography articles listed at Biographies, revisited. Ideally, we should have at least (10) total "B-class", well-sourced biography articles relating to Textile arts, each with a free-use image, and each with a good WP:LEAD. Once that's done, the portal should have no problem attaining featured status, in my opinion. Cirt (talk) 23:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

A nuisance

Durova, you seem to know your way around these these things - User:200.127.125.3 has been adding commercial links and nothing else to embroidery articles and templates since November - how do we get this IP banned? - PKM (talk) 04:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Not enough edits in the IP history to qualify for a ban. Suggest leaving a warning on the IP talk page. Let me know if the problem continues. Durova^Charge! 04:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there any particular place he is promoting? Geoff Plourde (talk) 05:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

A website. I left a friendly-ish warning. A lot of times these are people who are trying to run a mom-and-pop, or who work for slightly bigger companies and have to keep on top of a dozen social media sites at once. About 80% of them are okay people if you're just decent to them. Durova^Charge! 06:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The same edit appeared again today with a different IP. I have requested semi-protection. - PKM (talk) 01:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Article improvement

I've been working on spinning (textiles). I think it's ready to bump from start to B-class - can a neutral party reassess? - PKM (talk) 03:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!! - PKM (talk) 21:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

No prob, what help do you need to get it to GA? Geoff Plourde (talk) 04:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It's a bit heavy on the how-to for GA, I think. Maybe not. Also needs citations for the industrial spinning section (what's there is extracted from other WP articles) and more on contemporary spinning in non-industrial/traditional societies, with citations. - PKM (talk) 03:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Double DYK in one hook

• ...that Flat Top Manor, built by textile industrialist Moses H. Cone in 1900, gets nearly 250,000 visitors annually?

5 March 2008, appearance on Main Page.

Also, the bio Moses H. Cone, once expanded a bit more, might be a good addition to Portal:Textile arts. Good job to Doug Coldwell (talk · contribs), is he active in this project? If not, someone might wish to thank him for his contributions and mention this project to him. Cirt (talk) 04:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

GA, FP

Navajo rug has been promoted to good article, and Image:Bedouinwomanb.jpg has become a featured picture. Durova^Charge! 23:26, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Another Featured picture nomination

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Madame de Pompadour - looks good enough for consideration. If it passes it will bring our featured picture count to an even 10. Durova^Charge! 07:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

also: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Tibetan thanka Durova^Charge! 04:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Zippers Durova^Charge! 00:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured!

Tibetan thangka.

Featured portal drive: the home stretch

Good news: our portal is almost ready for featured candidacy. The one thing we still have to nail is the biographies section. We've got to have 10 good B-class biographies and so far we have three. But here's the fun part: several of our other biographies could be ready to go if they just had a better introduction or some other minor improvement.

So here's the place where the final push is under discussion. Or grab one of the following and buff it up! (We only need 7 more so this list of 13 gives leeway to pick and choose the stuff you enjoy). Durova^Charge! 22:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

1. Elizabeth Zimmermann = Start-class, No relevant free-use image in article.
2. John Henry Dearle = B-class, free-use image of work in article.
3. William Morris = B-class, free-use image of individual in article. WP:LEAD could use expansion.
4. Betsy Ross = B-class, relevant free-use image in article. WP:LEAD could use expansion.
5. Emil Rieve = B-class, relevant free-use image. WP:LEAD needs expansion. Done. Durova^Charge! 04:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
6. Dobri Zhelyazkov = Start-class, relevant free-use image. Needs expansion and referencing.
7. Rosey Grier = Start-class, relevant free-use image. Needs longer lead, expansion, and referencing.
8. Sir William Henry Perkin = B-class, free-use image and good lead. Needs inline citations.
9. Eli Whitney = B-class, free-use image. Needs longer lead and inline citations.
10. William Madison Wood = Start-class. Needs free use image, introduction, and citations.
11. Jedediah Strutt = Unassessed (strong start to weak B). Relevant free-use image. Needs better lead and references.
12. Samuel Slater = B-class (weak B), free use image. Needs better lead. Expansion would be good.
13. Richard Arkwright = Start-class, free use image. Needs organization, expansion, and referencing.
14. Anni Albers = Start-class, no free use image. Needs expansion and image.

5 down, 5 to go! Durova^Charge! 02:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

6 down, 4 to go! Durova^Charge! 03:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

7 down, 3 more... Durova^Charge! 07:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

8 down... Durova^Charge! 07:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

9 down... Durova^Charge! 08:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, if Cirt thinks these are all good enough then we've got ourselves a featured portal candidate. :) Durova^Charge! 08:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Assessed Strutt as Start. Geoff Plourde (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I added the latest few, I think we need one more. Cirt (talk) 00:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I expanded the lead on William Morris with an emphasis on his influence in the textile arts, which wasn't mentioned before. Please take a look. - PKM (talk) 20:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

An easy GA drive

Sumptuary law is already in great shape with 52 inline citations and an international focus. Needs copyediting and some minor expansion. I've checked whether we'd be stepping on anybody's toes by doing a GA drive and it doesn't appear that we would be. Let's go for it! Durova^Charge! 17:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I did a light copyedit on the section on Ancient Rome. - PKM (talk) 20:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Textile Arts

This portal is currently undergoing its second Portal Peer Review, and your comments/feedback would be appreciated at the portal peer review subpage. Cirt (talk) 12:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

The portal now has featured status per the discussion which gained significant support from involved and uninvolved members of the community. Well done to those who helped it achieve featured status. Rudget 13:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Textile design

I have created a navigation template {{Textile designers}} and added it to the articles in that category. This was a very educational exercise, which brings up a number of things we can work on:

• Many of our articles on textile designers are in need of serious work; this is a fertile area for creating new biographies for our Portal.
• We do not have a survey article on textile design; today both textile design and textile designer redirect to fiber art. Not the same thing. I will probably tacklle this article soon; I have some additional references on order which should help.
• Should we link to and feature every painter and architect who has designed a line of textiles on the side? I'd vote no, but I am interested in others' thoughts.
• I would like to reserve the category "textile designers" for individuals, and have another category (perhaps "textile design firms"?) for Marimekko, Ivana Helsinki, Morris & Co., etc. Thoughts? I would add the firms as a subsection on the textile design nav template.
• Some of these designers fail to meet the Notability guidelines for people (see Lily Chin for example). I am going to propose some of these for deletion, as I think they contribute to the impression that textile arts articles are frequently unencyclopedic and amateurish.

- PKM (talk) 19:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Contents

I have added the Textile arts fundamental topics to the "Culture and the Arts" section of Portal:Contents/Overviews. - PKM (talk) 00:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK

Swift (textiles) was recently featured, and the articles Mechlin lace, Valenciennes lace, Velcro and Brussels lace have been nominated. Loggie (talk) 07:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Textile design

I've made a stub at Textile design (it was a redirect to Fiber art). All contributions welcome. - PKM (talk) 19:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for assesment

I was wondering if there was someone who wouldn't mind reassesing/assessing these articles: Velcro, Bouclé, Swift (textiles), Twist per inch, Niddy noddy, Short draw (spinning) and Valenciennes lace. Thanks, Loggie (talk) 17:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Loggie, I missed this request. I will reassess these. - PKM (talk) 19:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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I notice that the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team is about to officially release an updated assessment scale; most useful to this project is a new "C" class between Start and "B" class, which I think will be very valuable to our project. I think we have both B- and Start-class articles which should be reassessed to C-class. (There is also a new "A" class.) - PKM (talk) 22:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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I've subscribed our project to User:WolterBot/Cleanup listing subscription, which will generate a subpage similar to this one for our project. Once I see how the results look, I'll link it in from the main project page.

Automation is our friend. - PKM (talk) 19:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

And our listing is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts/Cleanup listing. Oh, this is going to help me a ton. - PKM (talk) 17:35, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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I've gone through our B-class articles and reassessed a number of them to C-class that just don't measure up to the new guidelines. - PKM (talk) 19:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

William Morris now GA

William Morris has just been promoted to GA! - PKM (talk) 16:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

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Sprang

Sprang has been expanded from 2 sentences to GA. It also got onto Wikipedia's main page as an expansion DYK. Durova^Charge! 17:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Image needs replacement - Macramé

Hello all...

An image used in the article, specifically Image:Kr-macweb-01.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Ack, you'll have me tied up in knots... Thanks for the heads up. ;) Durova^Charge! 01:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Tailor's ham

I just created the article Tailor's ham. Since the topic is far from my area of expertise, I would like to request that someone check the article for consistency and correctness. I used tailor's ham instead of dressmaker's ham because that term returns far more results on Google, but if there is some more appropriate or general name, please move or update the article. Additionally, my naive searches yielded only coverage of the construction, use, and form of hams, and the article currently does not cover the history of their design and use. - Eldereft (cont.) 21:39, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It looks great to me! I have one, and I'll try to remember to take a photo of it. - PKM (talk) 03:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

English embroidery

Could someone please assess my new article English embroidery? Thanks! - PKM (talk) 21:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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I'm not from this WP, but just dropping by because of a much-needed article - Chilkat blanket. Maybe a bit far from lace doilies and brocade draperies, but textiles/garments nonetheless (unless there's WP:Costume maybe?). Also in the same league, Cowichan sweater and Hudson's Bay blanket.....Skookum1 (talk) 16:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

And while I'm here, there's also kalakhwatie, which refers both to the fabric and the chemise-type undergarment made from it, which was made from the cambium of the redcedar tree by Chinookan and other peoples of the Pacific Northwest....Skookum1 (talk) 16:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

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Direct to garment printing

• Direct to garment printing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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This article appears to have been written by a few SPA's working together. All/most of the "references" are to the websites of various companies selling DTG-related products. The text is primarily PEACOCK about how wonderful DTG printing is ("almost 100% eco-friendly," "can be as durable as screen printing," and "price options for most every apparel decorators budget").

I think there's an article to be written on this topic, but this isn't it.

Cross-posting at WP:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard in the hopes that someone will take this on.

Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 01:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

when did Friendship Bracelets begin becoming popular? --Scott —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.243.5.136 (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Reticella article. Translation English-Spanish.

May I translate the "Reticella" article?

Reticella (también conocida como "reticello" o point coupé/point couppe en Francés) es un encaje de aguja del siglo XV, cuya popularidad se extendió hasta el primer cuarto del siglo XVII.

La reticella era un tipo de trabajo calado en el cual los hilos del lino eran jalados para crear una "rejilla" cuyo patrón era cosido usando principalmente el punto ojal.

Los libros de patrones diseñados por Federico de Vinciolo (Francia, 1587) y Cesare Vecellio (Italia, probablemente en los 1590's pero impreso en 1617) fueron populares y reimpresos frecuentemente.

La Reticella se transformó en otra técnica conocida como Punto in Aria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.129.15.203 (talk) 23:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Of course! - PKM (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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gingham

Don't know if this is what this is for, but...I always thought gingham was the checked pattern on cloth. I did not know it was the cloth itself. Can it also be the checked pattern or is it only the type of cloth? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.29.218.242 (talk) 17:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

In everyday usage, gingham often means a checkered pattern. - PKM (talk) 23:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Categorizing braiding and netting

I think we need to do some organizing in our templates. At the moment, sprang is on {{embroidery}} but macramé is on {{lace types}}, nålebinding is listed as a {{textile arts}} fundamental (because I didn't have a clue what else to do with it), and lucet and kumihimo aren't on any of our templates. I propose a new template "Braiding and netting" - thoughts? Better ideas? Does plying go with this set? - PKM (talk) 02:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Galloon is also listed in {{embroidery}}. On further reflection, I am thinking of changing braiding from a redirect to braid into a textile arts survey article, introducing sprang, galloon, lucet, kumihimo, passementerie, etc. I am going to see if I can find some scholarly reference for this sort of taxonomy. - PKM (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm. John Gillow and Bryan Sentance (World Textiles, Bulfinch Press/Little, Brown, 1999, ISBN 0-8212-2621-5) group these things as non-loom textiles and include crochet and knitting along with sprang, netting, braid, and lace. It's logical, but I hate naming articles by what they don't cover. "Braided, looped and knotted textiles" is descriptive but clunky. Thinking... - PKM (talk) 17:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Clothing technology

Would this be a useful article? I can't find a good article on the history of clothing innovations and technological advances. The subject came up on the discussion page addressing the scope for the wearable technology article (which is new). I think it's an interesting subject. Some of the instances mentioned include the advanced swimsuits in the news lately, memory foam in helmets, and there are older innovations like zippers, velcro, and synthetic fabrics. The technologies used to manufacture clothing is also an interesting area. Anyway, I'm new to this topic area so any sugestions or direction is welcome. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

We do have History of clothing and textiles and Timeline of clothing and textiles technology, both of which need significant work.

I suspect clothing technology might be a better fit for the fashion project, but certainly the article can be part of both.

If clothing technology interests you, by all means go for it. We don't any have other editors actively working in that area, and you'd be quite welcome. - PKM (talk) 00:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Silk in the Indian subcontinent

Could someone look at this article, please? It's in the oldest month of cleanup articles. I've tried to improve the organization but there are places where I can't tell if a word is another word for something or a type of it. RJFJR (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Hooker?

I have often heard a reference of the term "hooker" being started from crocheters. Help on any citation? As the article states the poorly paid women of this profession were told to sell themselves to compensate what was not paid to them. It would make sense. Does anyone have any help on this one? Or is this something that was made up by someone? --Cassandra loves (talk) 05:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

It's something I've read in passing in several crochet books, which would nominally be reliable sources but not really ideal. Basically crochet lacemaking didn't generate a living wage. There was a public backlash after one businessman told the press how he expected his workers to make ends meet. Durova³⁹¹ 05:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

actually, it was deprived from a war general during the civil war who's name was Joseph hooker. i believe it stuck because general hooker always had a group of women around him everywhere he went.Iceveela (talk) 11:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

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Boutis quilts

Hello,

Please could someone have a look at the boutis article (on Provencal/Southern French quilting) to see whether this article may need renaming to something a little more representative of the subject matter? It became clear as I was wikifying and tidying it up that boutis is but one term for a wide variety of Provencal stuffed/wholecloth quilting, but I'm not sufficiently expert enough to say what a better title would be. Obviously boutis and the other terms (like Marseilles work, etc...) should redirect to the page under its new title. Any feedback would be VERY much appreciated - thanks! Mabalu (talk) 01:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Wish I was an expert on boutis, but I am not. Let me see what I can dig up. - PKM (talk) 02:02, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

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I've updated my list of missing topics related to clothing and fabrics - Skysmith (talk) 12:56, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much for this!! I'll try to get some short articles for DYK going on these as time permits. - PKM (talk) 19:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Added Mockado. - PKM (talk) 20:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the heads=up; doing that now, - PKM (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Participant update?

Cirt, I notice that many projects have their particpants re-sign-in every few months. I think we should do that (at least once a year!) but I am not sure how best to accommondate that with our project template. Any suggestions? - PKM (talk) 17:11, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Sewing

Sewing is a terrible article. I propose to move the lists into their own "list" articles (linked from here), with wikilinks as appropriate, and then add properly cited history and some world-wide perspective.

Any objections or other thoughts? Any volunteers? Is anyone reading this except me and Cirt?  :-) - PKM (talk) 17:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

In progress. More to do. - PKM (talk) 03:09, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks! I am on board for any textiles-related work. - PKM (talk) 03:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

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Tussore

I have created tussore, I made a Wiktionary entry for it and after researching the Wiktionary entry I had enough material for a stub article. However, I have just discovered that tussah (which I think is the same thing) redirect to wild silk. Now I don't really know much about this, is tussore/tussah the same thing as wild silk or just one type of wild silk? In other words, should my article be merged and redirected or is it actually a separate subject? Thanks, SpinningSpark 20:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Icon replaced in Template:Textile-arts-stub

The image that was being used in Template:Textile-arts-stub has been deleted. I changed the template to refer to the image that was used back in Oct 2006, but someone will probably want to search for a better one to use now. - dcljr (talk) 01:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I have one that will do for now. Updated. - PKM (talk) 03:31, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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FYI, I have run through these and recommended some variant versions. - PKM (talk) 02:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Article on Gros-grain ribbon

I am a wikipedia newbie, but the article on grosgrain ribbon has fact listed in it (citation 24) that I would like to contest. Gone With the Wind's costumes are the imagination of Hollywood. I am not sure who makes such a claim, but I feel that should be investigated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.117.75.36 (talk) 20:18, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd have to agree that the costumes in Gone with the Wind are as much about fashion in 1939 (broad shoulders for men, asymmetrical bonnets for women) as they are about fashion in the 1860s. "Investigating" the claim is irrelevant under Wikipedia's guidelines on original research, but we can certainly replace that comment with an appropriate scholarly source for the style, or propose deleting it on the article's talk page. Let me see if I can find a proper source on the ahistoricity of the costumes - I think I have one. - PKM (talk) 03:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

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DYKs

Added group 27 to the rotation. - PKM (talk) 02:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Assessment catch-up

I've assessed all the unassessed articles I didn't do major work on. - PKM (talk) 04:57, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Punch cards

Punched card has been nominated for renaming, see Talk:punched card. As punch cards were used for textile pattern manufacturing, I though I'd let you know. 65.94.71.179 (talk) 05:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Glossaries

We now have 3 textile arts glossaries - I have created the category and made it a subcat of textile arts so it appears on the portal. - PKM (talk) 00:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Portal update

Byzantine silk has been assessed as B-class. I have added it to the Selected Article rotation. - PKM (talk) 00:20, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Natural dye has also been assessed as B-class. I have added it to the Selected Article rotation. - PKM (talk) 02:07, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Now GA. :-) - PKM (talk) 02:39, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Big mistake at Gabardine highlighted by Stephen Fry

Stephen Fry has tweeted pointing out a mistake in this article. The fabric could not have been invented in 1888 if it was mentioned in the Merchant of Venice. Perhaps someone with more knowledge in the field than I can fix this article up. —Half Price 20:22, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

No worries, turns out it was Fry who was wrong. —Half Price 13:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for posting here, though. Wikipedia should make the distinction - see my note at Talk:Gabardine. - PKM (talk) 18:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Article gaberdine added for the garment, and gabardine expanded and cited. - PKM (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Seeking Textile Arts Ambassador for WikiProject MoMA

As the new Wikipedia-in-Residence fostering institutional cooperation at the the Museum of Modern Art, I'd love to invite WikiProject Film folks to come participate! In particular, we are also looking for anyone to be a Textile Arts Ambassador to WikiProject MoMA (see Wikipedia:GLAM/MoMA/Members).--Pharos (talk) 15:52, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm in. See you over there. - PKM (talk) 18:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

On the article on "heddles", it says heddles "separate" the warp threads. That's not strictly accurate. Heddles raise or lower warp threads. On looms equipped with reeds, the reed actually performs the separation. Only on rigid heddle looms do they perform both functions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.4.195.123 (talk) 20:49, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Industrial processes relating to Textiles

I can see from the membership of the group that there is no-one here who works in the industrial field, who has experience of the economics of the nineteen century or could rebuild a Britich Northrop, or even could explain what papers Geoffrey Timmins wrote and why they are important. Fine, but a lot of the articles that need reassessing or cleaning up are on industrial topics. It looks like sever mission creep I don't assessing my own work- but there does appear to be an acute staff shortage. The textile industry was responsible for the industrial revolution- slavery and segregation in the American colonies and the world as we know it.. seems strange that it is considered an art. I am just raising the topic to generate a little discussion and see if we can do some structural surgery- any suggestions?--ClemRutter (talk) 08:18, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

REG:WHICH COLOUR APRON CLOTH IS SUITABLE FOR UV LIGHT AREA

Dear all, pls suggest to me which color cloth APRON is preffered at uv light working area....

WITH BEST REGARDS, PRABHAKAR JUPUDI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.125.190.221 (talk) 16:39, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Chinz

Just a heads-up for anyone who can help. For the article on chinz, all of the links about the fabric are dead. I'm new to Wikipedia editing; please forgive if posted incorrectly. Thanks!Lightink (talk) 13:13, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I've cleared out the dead links and updated/repaired the one link that was still active (it had moved to a different page on the site). Mabalu (talk) 13:44, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Quilts Orgins

Hi. My name is Carolyn Penders and I am interested in the origins of quilt making. I have come across the notion that quilts were started as a shroud coving for the decesed of a family or village member. All the women in the village or family got to gether and donated pieces of cloth from clothing and such items to be sewn together as a shroud to wrap the decesed in, ensuring their love and memories would warm them in the after life. Slowly they began to make shrouds before death and still as slow they began to use these quilts as a cover or blanket filled with feathers for batting and a colorful backing.

My question is, were quilts started all over the world in different cultures or is it beleived that quilts have their orgins only in Europe? Because the quilt making I have described above is for Native Americans long befor the Europeans set foot in North America. I also would like to ask if ther is a history of quilt making in Africa? China has been a long time user of quilted clothing, and I'm sure, quilted bedding, so where does Quilts or quilting originate? Carolyn76.105.139.62 (talk) 19:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

running yard

I was looking to buy fabric today and noticed on 3 sites everything was sold by the "running yard". I have searched and searched for a definition, but have not found one. The wikipedia article on Textile had a section on units of measurement for textile manufacturing, but nothing for a "running yard". I would have added it myself if I had found a good reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.8.142 (talk) 19:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

gusset attaching

119.226.207.10 (talk) 07:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC) Need to know various methods to attach a gusset at the bottom hem of a traditional shirt with sketches of seams/stitches made

Redundant articles needing merging

There are two articles on the same topic, Illusion knitting and Shadow knitting. Anyone up for the merge? MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:25, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks like Illusion knitting is the rather better written article though they both have issues, the first one does have issues with promotion and publicising the work of some knitters. If nobody else takes this on in a few days time or there is no further discussion I'll merge Shadow Knitting into Illusion (unless it is thought it would be better off under Shadow Knitting) but might need a prod to remind me! Mabalu (talk) 14:31, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Opinions requested on consistency of naming textile pages.

Hello, I've been thinking about this for a while now, but not really sure where best to raise it for discussion. My question is:

Should textile articles have a consistent disambiguation? And if so, what should that disambiguation be? For example, we have three disambiguations, all of which are equally valid:

• Tweed (cloth)
• Chiffon (fabric)
• Calico (textile)

Would it make sense if all disambiguated textile article titles had one consistent disambiguation? And WHICH one of the three should it be? Also let me know if this should be discussed elsewhere - maybe it is already? Mabalu (talk) 22:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Imperial Cotton Duck.jpg

image:Imperial Cotton Duck.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:24, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Missing topics page

I have updated Missing topics about clothing and fabrics - Skysmith (talk) 08:49, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Cotton duck manufactured by the Imperial Cotton Company Limited.jpg

image:Cotton duck manufactured by the Imperial Cotton Company Limited.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 08:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/African Waxprints

Dear textile experts: The above article is up for review at Articles for creation. Please check it out and see if you think it is a different topic from Batik, or if maybe there should be a general topic Wax prints which encompasses both of these. —Anne Delong (talk) 22:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; it's been created now. —Anne Delong (talk) 23:44, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Frivolite

The article on Frivolite (a French analog of tatting) has been proposed for deletion. A review by knowledgeable editors would be welcome. --Mark viking (talk) 20:22, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Archived some threads

I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 10:21, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Bordado

Greetings. Apparently bordado means embroidery in Spanish. I was working on a Peru related article and apparently street vendors sell "bordado". So my question is, is "bordado" notable as distinct from embroidery? Is there a type of Peruvian embroidery known as bordado that is notable? Thanks for any insights and assistance. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to help!!

Hey all, I'd really like to help in anyway possible. Right now, there are two articles that I've been scouring for a bit. They're knitting and hand knitting. Two separate articles with a LOT of the same information. We should either consolidate or figure out a solution here. --Kobuu (talk) 15:19, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Category:Textile properties

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Category:Smocking

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Greek lace

I approved an article today on Greek lace that's in the scope of your project. The article needs a lot of work so I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 21:56, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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Project defunct or not?

The project is tagged as defunct, but someone supposed there is enough activity. But even in the archive I overlooked at first (counted from the wrong end) I don't see much answers. Jo Pol (talk) 21:03, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Resusciating - January 2015 satusuro 14:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

"carbon fiber"

The usage of Carbon fiber (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:carbon (fiber) -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:57, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Cochineal FAR

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interesting?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Victuallers (talk • contribs) 19:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Coutil, drill and drelich

Coutil redirect to Polish Wikipedia is to a fabric called drelich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coutil to https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drelich), which is untrue. Coutil can be also woven in satin and brocade weave, drelich is only twill weave. Drelich is in fact drill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_(fabric)). In Polish wiki there is information thet drelich is made of linen (flax?), but in fact the linen drelich is not present (or very rare) on the market, it is now mostly made of cotton. Additional source confirming this translation: http://en.texsite.info/Drill - Polish redirection: http://pl.texsite.info/Drelich_%28tkanina%29 translating drelich=coutil is untrue and makes a mess. could you help me fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akashne (talk • contribs) 07:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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Help us, Wikiproject Textile Arts; you're our only hope! Chrisrus (talk) 05:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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need your help to guide to put citations and picture gallery in Performance fabrics

Dear Editors, Greetings of the day! please help to improve in putting citations and adding picture gallery in Performance fabrics. These fabrics are in fashion and all leading apparel brands are marketing their products on premium to create awareness and educate end user and upcoming textile students this article may be helpful. thanks in anticipation,

kind regards

14.98.230.31 (talk) 11:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

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need your help to guide to put citations and picture gallery in Performance fabrics

Dear Editors, Greetings of the day! please help in improving Performance fabrics. thanks rajiv sharma 11:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk • contribs)

Gimme fiber

Hi,

I've been on the technology timeline ("Timeline of materials technology") talk page to inquire about more stuff on fiber tech (cloth and rope), although/because I know little about it. A place to go?

T 88.89.219.147 (talk) 03:35, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Several members of WikiProject Textile Arts are interested in fashion too...

Calling all members of WikiProject Textile Arts who are also interested in fashion:

WikiProject Fashion will be working on a Collaboration of the Month in July 2016. The article to be improved will be Jacket. If you are interested, please sign up! Chickadee46 (talk|contribs) (WP:MCW) 00:31, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Rug hooking due weight

This article on rug hooking has replaced the original with a very one-sided view of rug hooking. It was obviously written by an advocate of the McGown guild and Pearl McGown. While Pearl McGown deserves a place in rug hooking history, she wasn't the only important person. There were other teachers and innovators working long before Pearl joined the community of rug hookers and then re-designed rug hooking to suit her view of it as a craft. Demanding that rug hookers follow her rules, even though she couldn't even call them rug hookers and made up new words like "ruggers" to describe these artisans, Mrs. McGown changed the craft for half a century. Prior to the McGown era, people hooked artistic rugs in independent, personal, and creative ways. Mrs. McGown turned the art into a "hook-by-numbers" craft. Rug hooking has finally moved beyond the McGown restrictions and has once again become an art that is attracting more and more people every year. The view held by McGown trained teachers that Pearl "saved rug hooking" is only true for those who believe in the propaganda promulgated by the McGown workshops and guild. I respect Pearl McGown as a hard-working entrepreneur, but there are many other people who deserve just as much respect. One example was Pearl's employer, Mrs. Saunders, who taught Pearl how to make patterns and had an earlier letter system of training teachers. There are many people like Magdalena Briner who made creative and original rugs long before Pearl decided rugs had to be made her way and denigrated rugs made any other way. Joan Moshimer was one of the first to break Pearl's rules by designing her own rugs and selling her own patterns - Pearl punished her by taking away her teaching certification. ATHA, The Association of Traditional Hooking Artists, was formed by a group of women who felt Pearl's rules were too restrictive and chose to form an alternative to the McGown guild system. In recent years, ATHA's leadership has been taken over by McGown trained teachers so all attempts to grow beyond the limits of McGown thinking have been blocked, especially all attempts to create an ATHA teacher training program. However, ATHA's success in encouraging creativity has caused the teacher training workshops to at last allow rug patterns created by non-McGown designers to be hooked at schools and workshops. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:220A:D378:7466:4AAD:93F7:3599 (talk) 05:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Quick, call CNN! this is serious headline news!Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:05, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

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Missing topics list

My list of missing topics about clothing (and fabrics) is updated with fabrics list - Skysmith (talk) 13:22, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

tatting

I just read the definition of tatting and found it incorrect. It says that tatting is tying a series of knots on a holding thread. With shuttle tatting you tie one half of the knot with the shuttle thread and then you must transfer that half to the holding thread. Then you make the second half of the knot and transfer it. That's why many people find it easier to needle tat. With needle tatting the stitches are made without the transfer process until the thread is pulled through all the stitches. Both processes look the same when completed. It's easier to directly add beads when you needle tat. Each technique has its own merits.71.223.128.195 (talk) 17:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Valitine/Valetin/Valitin

At Wiktionary (see wikt:Wiktionary:Tea room/2018/February, we're trying to figure out the etymology of wikt:凡爾丁 (fáněrdīng)/ wikt:凡立丁 (fánlìdīng), and whether to create an entry for the English name "valetin" used to translate them. The Chinese term refers to a wool fabric that's often mentioned along with gabardine.

The best we can figure so far is that the Chinese is derived from some non-Chinese name, but we can't seem to find anything via Google that's not a translation from Chinese (see wikt:Citations:valetin). I would appreciate it if you could check in any references you have access to, and help us figure this out. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 02:10, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

rya article

It is not clear to me why this detailed article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rya_(rug) is marked stub, low importance, and as having dubious sources. Jackdime (talk) 11:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

@Jackdime: Just my opinion but:

Stub because all that is covered is history; hardly a detailed article.

Low importance because it is probably only of interest to specialists (in the opinion of the person who applied the rating)

Dubious sources - at first glance I would say that the 3 references to NAZMIYAL Inc are a problem. This is a sales site, so these are promotional links. And although they may have originally linked to pages with actual content, today they all go to the same sales page for Scandinavian rugs.

If you want more specific answers, you could ask user:Ronz who tagged it for dubious sources and user:PKM who added the class and importance ratings. Leschnei (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

The "dubious references" hatnote is from 2009 and the "stub" assessment is from 2010. The article has been significantly expanded since then. If you are comfortable with the references, go ahead and remove the hatnote. I'd support changing the rating to "start".

This project has been mostly inactive for the last several years. It would be great if additional editors could review the ratings and generally bring the project current. - PKM (talk) 21:05, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I've not looked at the article in some time. The problems with Nazmiyal links (and the associated advertising, coi, spam, and sockpuppetry problems) make any use of them (and archived versions) questionable. Wikipedia is far less tolerant of such promotional references (and the editing behind them) than when they were added. --Ronz (talk) 21:08, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

PS: Here are the project guidelines for assessing quality. - PKM (talk) 21:16, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Adding Cloud Filling Stitch to Feather Stitch Wiki Page

I would like some feedback from fellow textile artists on adding the cloud filling stitch to the feather stitch wiki page.

I believe that this stitch can apply under the guidelines of the feather stitch as one thread loops through the vertical stitches that are applied first on the fabric. Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

Mariannah88 (talk) 17:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Peg loom, Pegloom, Weaving sticks, Stick weaving

I went to a craft day yesterday where we were shown Stick weaving, which seems to be a variation of a pegloom, peg loom or pegged loom. I can't find any mention in the encyclopedia beyond a red link to Pegged loom in Loom#Traditional_looms. An article I've found asserts that this was a native American weaving technique, so I'm surprised if we haven't got anything on it in the encyclopedia. Before I create a duplicate article, currently a draft at User:PamD/Peg loom, I thought I'd check here in case there's an alternative name I'm not finding in my Googling. All I'm finding online is either "how-to" sites or sites selling looms or weaving sticks (essentially the same technique, the sticks either handheld or in a stand). There's a lot of it about, I'm sure it's notable, but I'd like to get the historical aspect sourced, and to avoid any duplication. Any thoughts? PamD 11:23, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Having read somewhere that this project might not be active, I just went ahead and created Peg loom, with a range of incoming redirects. Any contributions welcome, especially if you could upload any pictures! PamD 18:09, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Red links

I post this notice in case somebody in your WikiProject would like to redirect or create these pages.

Leather

capeskin
chamois <-> chammy
doeskin
grain leather
levant morocco
pebble leather
pig suede
Russian leather
saddle leather
sole-leather <-> shoe-leather
tawed leather
whitleather <-> white leather

<-> means or

Fabrics, fibers

brocatel <-> brocatelle
Canton crepe
cire
Courtelle
doeskin
faille
hopsack
jaconet
marquisette
organzine
panne
percaline
ragg
ratine
shalloon
swansdown
swanskin
tabaret
tafetta
toweling
tricotine
Venetian cloth

• Source: Kipfer, Barbara Ann, Ph.D., Editor (2010). Roget's International Thesaurus. Collins. {{cite book}}: |first= has generic name (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Iceblock (talk) 20:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

• Expanded by Iceblock (talk) 20:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
• Edited by Iceblock (talk) 21:28, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Is Tafetta a misspelling of Taffeta? Leschnei (talk) 23:49, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

User:Leschnei Yes. Thank you for letting me know! Iceblock (talk) 19:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

request for article on drip dry fabrics

Hello. I noticed a recent query on Talk:List of laundry topics, where it seems likely to be overlooked. I post it here in case any of you can help, or suggest a better place to re-post it.

I have searched Wikipedia, but I cannot find any information on "Drip Dry" fabrics, what the process is that makes a fabric "drip dry", and how the fabric differs from any other clothing material. Please can anyone supply a link to this ? Or add this information to this and / or the "Laundry" page ? Many thanks, Frank. Darkman101 (talk) 21:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. --Carbon Caryatid (talk) 19:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hereke carpet

To my knowledge there is no recognized definition of "Hereke carpet". Reducing the definition of such a carpet only at its place of production is not relevant because it is not a verifiable data and this does not characterize the product. A carpet is not like a wine or a cheese, there is not a "terroir" that gives it a unique specificity recognizable by a specialist or by scientific analysis. No vendor, in Istanbul or elsewhere, will give you the name of the craftsman or the workshop who made the carpet. The less honest will even sell you a carpet from China or India for a "Hereke rug".

This lack of commercial definition leads to a very uncomfortable situation for buyers as the sums involved are important. This explains that there are multitudes of forums where tourists incompetent on the subject and too gullible wonder after returning home, if the "Hereke carpet" they bought a few thousand to tens of thousands of euros/dollars are "real Hereke rugs" !

Let's try another definition that better characterizes the product :

On a formal point of view, a "Hereke rug" is a carpet that was produced by the imperial manufacture of Hereke until its closure around 1925.

For carpets after 1925, and by extension, one could say that a "Hereke rug" is a carpet:

- made entirely by hand by a craftsman operating according to the ancestral Turkish methods, - knotted essentially with the Turkish "double knot", - having a high density of "double knots" per cm², at least 8x8 (10x10 and 12x12 being values frequently encountered - 16x16 or 32x32 being possible but more exceptional values), - made of wool or silk yarn, or camel hair, all of natural origin and tinted using natural pigments according to traditional Turkish methods , - representing a traditional Turkish motif decoration (possibly with contemporary figurative motifs), - produced in the perimeter of Istanbul and Hereke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelfrance (talk • contribs) 13:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Possible change in class for Crewel embroidery article

I've been working hard on the Crewel embroidery article, and wonder if it might now be assessed higher than start class? If this isn't the place to ask this, please let me know where I should. Thank you. TrudiJ (talk) 11:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrudiJ (talk • contribs) 10:58, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Trudi--nice work on improving the article! I am no expert on the subject, but reading through it, this looks like a B-class article to me. I have updated the assessment. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 11:41, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Proposed inclusion criteria for List of tartans

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see Talk:List of tartans#Inclusion criteria, a proposal for a three-point list of inclusion criteria. There are at least 7000 tartans and we cannot account for them all in a single article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:45, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Time to rename page Cuban fiber?

I propose we rename the Cuben Fiber article Dyneema Composite Fabric, add a redirect for Cuben Fiber to that page, and add "Dyneema Composite Fabric" to the DCF disambiguation page. The market, and article seekers are now used to DCF. Soon Cuban fiber will be only a memory. I defer to you all as this page is tagged as within the scope of this WikiProject. —philoserf (talk) 04:20, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Since no one objected I moved and made minor name related updates. —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:06, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Cloth material for facecoverings

Researchers are starting to try to typify materials that make good and bad facemasks; see Face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic. unfortunately, many medical researchers know little about textiles. Articles such as Units of textile measurement and percale might be relevant. Anyone who can improve content of this sort, it would be very useful! HLHJ (talk) 00:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

remove inactive subpage?

The last question took a decade at Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts/Help; could the page be merged here? HLHJ (talk) 23:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@HLHJ: Similarly, the Collaboration of the Month in the right panel was last updated in March 2007. I'm going to make a few changes in hopes of breathing a little life into this space. I'm not sure of WikiProject etiquette, so I apologize if I inadvertently step on any toes. Just trying to help. Enby (talk) 21:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Enby: Generally, if you are willing to do the work to maintain the project, you have a large say over decisions. It would be polite to contact any old maintainers who are still active and ask if they'd mind you taking on the project maintenance, but I doubt you'll get objections. I wonder if perhaps inviting the sewist community to Wikiversity might help get more people editing these subjects, with spillovers to other Wikimedia wikis; it seems like a good fit. What do you (and anyone reading this) think? HLHJ (talk) 18:32, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

@HLHJ: I reached out to a few users who had edited the project page, including WillowW who created WP:TA, and all were glad to see new interest! I wasn't familiar with Wikiversity but have been looking around. It looks like the Sewing and Crochet pages are fairly basic, and some other pages, like Knitting and Spinning, don't exist at all yet. On the one hand, an exciting opportunity to create new content, but on the other, I wonder if starting mostly from scratch (as opposed to editing established articles here on English Wikipedia) might be intimidating for newbies. Enby (talk) 03:13, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Glad to hear it, Enby! I don't really see the point of replicating Wikipedia on Wikiversity; it's more a place for original research. I was thinking more about the people who write blogs about their textile-arts activities, especially folks doing experimental archaeology to recreate historic textiles (these blogs often have good bibliographies). They could write their blogs on Wikiversity and get free hosting and a structured image database. They'd upload and categorise images, which would be useful for everyone, including Wikipedians. HLHJ (talk) 03:30, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Creating and improving articles on textile artists

I propose an effort to create and improve the articles of notable textile artists. I think other WikiProjects, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and perhaps Wikipedia:WikiProject Arts may also be interested in joining us in this work. Enby (talk) 15:00, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good, I approve. A lot of cultures don't have many published reliable sources on named textile artists, tho; WP:systemic bias in sources may present difficulties here. For example, Iceland's economy once ran on textile exports, but it didn't get much documentation; women made cloth, and that was so engrained in the culture as to be assumed unsaid by its members. Or look at the traditional textiles of the Philippines; there are lots of them in American museums, for obvious reasons, but generally no weaver's name was recorded. I'd suggest recruiting some WP:GLAM partners; there are museums and museum departments dedicated entirely to textiles. HLHJ (talk) 18:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Excellent points. I'm going to look into recruiting WP:GLAM partners and will report back here. If any other editors here have had experience with this, would love to chat with you. In the meantime, you and others may be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts/Requested articles; I've started adding artists who may qualify for articles there. Enby (talk) 20:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

PKM seems to be active and experienced in textiles and GLAM. Perhaps she might be willing to give advice? HLHJ (talk) 00:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me. I'm mostly (very) active on Wikidata these days. Here's a list of Textile Artists in Wikidata that do NOT have articles on English Wikipedia, if that's of help to you. - PKM (talk) 00:55, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

And here's a list of Textile designers in Wikidata that do NOT have articles on English Wikipedia. - PKM (talk) 01:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, PKM! Pinging Enby. HLHJ (talk) 13:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

HLHJ, PKM, these are fantastic! I see some of the artists and designers even have articles in other languages. I imagine some of these would be good candidates for translation for English Wikipedia. Enby (talk) 02:47, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

• @PKM, Enby, and HLHJ: In connection with Women in Red, you might be interested in our crowd-sourced redlist Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Crafts. It possibly includes a few female fibre and textile artists who are not listed on your Wikidata lists. You are of course welcome to add any other missing names to the list. And while I'm here, some of you may be interested in expanding Homespun movement. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.--Ipigott (talk) 10:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

These are such great resources! Thank you for reaching out to me, Enby. I am also very interested combating systemic bias and globalizing the representation of Textiles (and woodworking) on Wikipedia. For example, the page Basket weaving does not even mention the word "Africa" in the entire article... hmm! Anyways, looking forward to following this conversation!Terasaface (talk) 19:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Women in Red focus on textile arts

@Enby, PKM, and HLHJ:: As promised, in November Women in Red is giving special focus to Textile arts. It would be useful if you could inform other editors who might be interested in participating. I would like to thank PKM for drawing our attention to the redlists available from Wikidata. We have now combined the various aspects into one listing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Textile. We look forward to wide participation in this important area of craftmanship. Below is a copy of the WiR invitation for November. You are welcome to forward it to other potentially interested editors or projects.--Ipigott (talk) 10:27, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Women in Red | November 2020, Volume 6, Issue 11, Numbers 150, 173, 178, 180, 181 Online events: New: Textile arts | Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast Continuing initiatives: #1day1woman | BLM/Anti-discrimination Contest (Oct-Nov-Dec): Women in Asia Help us plan future events: Virtual Ideas Cafe Join the conversation: Women in Red talkpage Stay in touch: Join WikiProject Women in Red | Opt-out of notifications Social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Ipigott (talk) 10:27, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Review of textile art stub page: Mercery

Hi there, I have added a significant amount of new information to the Mercery article stub and have linked it to the Textile Arts Wikiproject. I am kindly requesting a reassessment of the article. WikiLearner2605 (talk) 08:56, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Mulmul = Muslin ?

There is a discussion at Talk:Mulmul to which someone here might be able to contribute. PamD 09:18, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk:K'o-ssu

A requested move discussion has had few comments. Johnbod (talk) 04:45, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Circular knitting

Hello; I've just been sent and uploaded these high-quality images for our article on circular knitting, but I'm not really sure what I'm looking at, and I don't want to remove any photos that are important. Would someone who knows a bit more about these things like to add some of these to the relevant articles? Josh Milburn (talk) 15:23, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

• File:Kyle Cassidy Double Pointed Knitting Needles 20201224-P1006732.jpg
• File:Kyle Cassidy Knitting With Circular Needles 20201224-P1006729.jpg
• File:Kyle Cassidy Knitting a Hat With Double Pointed needles 20201224-P1006720.jpg
• File:Kyle Cassidy Knitting With Circular Needles 20201224-P1006714.jpg
• File:Kyle Cassidy Double Pointed Knitting Needles 20201224-P1006739.jpg

 Not done

@J Milburn: All files deleted due to non-free copyright. Thanks for raising the issue, this option seems closed now. Blue Rasberry (talk) 01:27, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Bed hangings: new article

I just added an article on bed hangings, which includes a fair amount about the embroidery on the hangings. I just would like to make sure that I was correct in adding it to this project, and if I was, to see if it might be assessed. I'd also love to have others contribute to it. It is better on the US and UK, weak on other countries. Thank you! TrudiJ (talk) 17:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, certainly, and yes it is very Anglocentric! Tapestry was also used, which you could add. I've added a link to Commons, where there are a vast number of images, which by contrast are rather French-leaning. Johnbod (talk) 17:57, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@Johnbod:Thank you, I will explore tapestry use and also see if I can get information about other countries' use of bed hangings. TrudiJ (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

TrudiJ, you could try Commons if you are still looking; there's an [long discussion] on canopy beds progressing slowly there, and it does cite some sources. HLHJ (talk) 02:39, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Would like others' opinion about the focus of the Lace article

I saw that the Lace article needed work, and is of top importance for this project. Over the last week or so, I've been adding to it. I would like to consult about the focus of the article. There are many sources that say there are 2 types of lace: bobbin lace and needle lace. Someone who worked on this article previously included a long list of types of lace, as well as images. I just added some wording to the lead to address the fact that this article focuses on needle lace and bobbin lace, but is this the way to do it? And should the article try to encompass all the types of lace in the bulleted list? Should the list and gallery come out? I'll keep working on the article, but it would help to have the focus determined. Thank you! TrudiJ (talk) 16:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

TrudiJ, it seems as though "Lace" may be a Wikipedia:Broad-concept article with somewhat unbalanced content that does not encompass all the types of lace. I do find the list and gallery useful, especially since they link to seperate sub-articles for the types of lace. If some reliable sources say there are only two types of lace, it should probably also be mentioned that some sources say there are only two types, even if that is obviously false. But if those sources are less-reliable, I think you can just ignore them. HLHJ (talk) 02:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Knowing nothing about lace, it seems to me, after looking at the article, that there are perhaps three groups:

• a) hand-made "true" lace, divided into bobbin and needle
• b) machine-made lace, including Chemical lace
• c) Lace-like textiles made by other techniques, such as Cutwork, Crocheted lace, Lace knitting. Not strictly lace, but worth mentioning, if only to avoid confusion.

The "types" section could be made clearer along these lines, if they are correct. As it is, the rest of the article covers a) exclusively, & I see no harm in just mentioning the other types. I suspect that the main gaps, here and at lace machine are firstly what machine-made lace (which I think we have to accept is lace) looks like & how popular it was at various points. Secondly, apart from America, the history section pretty much stops by 1800 for England, and 1600 for other places. I thought it continued or continues as an industry in parts of France and the Netherlands long after that. But I see you've added a lot, starting from the beginning, so let's hope that is to come. The references seem rather piecemeal, & mostly internet; I think what you need is a big fat book just on lace. As various people say at Talk:Lace, the article is rather weak at the perhaps tricky job of saying what lace actually looks like. Johnbod (talk) 02:59, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

HLHJ Johnbod Thank you both for responding to my question about the Lace article. I have taken careful note of your suggestions, and will work further on the article keeping these comments in mind. TrudiJ (talk) 06:27, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Tufting/rug making

I added some stuff to tufting, updated the process of rug making with new machines and technologies as well as a simple overview on how they work. Definitely feel free to add or change my edits, would be excited to hear from others on rug-making.--KnowledgeBySean (talk) 19:52, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm in the process of updating the tufting article for a subject at university, please keep an eye out for anything you think needs adding or changing over the next few weeks Emilymaayy (talk) 23:31, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Assess

Please review the assessmsnt on Talk:Brocade. It is currently listed as a Stub but deserves better.Grantmidnight (talk) 19:30, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done When an article assessment is so clearly inaccurate, feel free to assess it yourself. Schazjmd (talk) 19:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Iranian textiles

I was looking for a page on the history of various Iranian textiles, specifically for the ethnic groups within Iran and I can't seem to find it. Can anyone help me? I did find however Persian handicrafts. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 01:15, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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Pattern books for textiles and embroidery

I have run across a number of sources that provide information about the development of pattern books for both embroidery and textiles. Examples include Fashion & Virtue: Textile Patterns and the Print Revolution, 1520-1620 (Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin, Fall 2015) and Needlework: An Illustrated History (ed by Bridgeman and Drury). I have thought about starting an entry on the topic, since I've not found an existing one, but I wanted to check to make sure I haven't missed it. If you know of an existing article, please do let me know. I also wonder about separating the two types of books--embroidery and textiles--but the crossover would make disentangling them problematic, I think. But delving into the topic further, and expertise of this group, will help to determine this. Thank you.

~~~ TrudiJ (talk) 08:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Our Textile design article has a high-level overview of types of textile designs and patterns. The split by design modality--printed, woven, sewn, embroidered, etc. seems like a reasonable approach, but I'm no expert. From the conceptual direction of abstract patterns, we have articles on tessellation and motif (visual arts). but they don't have a lot of textile-specific information. I think an article on the history of textile patterns would be a good contribution to the encyclopedia. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 17:30, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Knitting overhaul

Hello friends! I am in the process of editing articles related to knitting. It's my personal hobbyhorse, and I noticed that many of the articles have been set on the right track but could use additional content. In particular, my goals are as follows:

• Add more references. It's clear that much of knitting is taught and described through oral history (e.g., forums or someone's grandmother just having a chat) and somewhat less glamorously through blogs. Many of these sources are of excellent quality, but unfortunately too impermanent to fit WP:RS's requirements. Finding reliable sources can be difficult, but dedication to the most frequented articles with a few books should be helpful.
• Add more images/gifs. This might be more controversial. Although Wikipedia is not a how-to guide, it is clear from the talk pages of articles that they come to Wikipedia to understand techniques and cannot make heads or tails of the content. Images and gifs would provide substantial supplemental information. Pages providing helpful content along these lines seem to be a little better received; I do not have evidence to back this up, only anecdotes.
• Highlight trends. This is probably the most controversial proposal of the three. Knitting has seen somewhat of a resurgence due to rising interest in sustainable fashion, projects popularized by Instagram and other social media, and the pandemic leading people to seek out new hobbies. Linking knitting and, more broadly, textile arts to social contexts would help dispel stereotypes around the subject (e.g., knitting is for little old ladies). Furthermore, I do worry that because knitting is perceived as being for little old ladies, the subject is underappreciated and generally ignored by the typical Wikipedia editor. To be clear, there's nothing wrong with little old ladies who like to knit. But I hope to do them and everyone else who likes to knit a favor by expanding knitting articles and raising the profile of knitting in general.

If anyone is game to join, do let me know. I will be editing a variety pages. We should coordinate :) Orcanami; or the 🌊⬛🐬⬜🌊(talk) 20:54, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Inkle weaving vs. Inkle loom vs. Band weaving

I have started to work on the Inkle weaving article, but I think this title is either too narrow, or not specific enough. I've added some possible suggestions for change on the talk page for the article, and would be interested in reactions to these possible directions to take. It will be easier to continue editing with a clearer focus for the article, as well as possibly starting a second article. Thank you. TrudiJ (talk) 09:56, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:29, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Tartan

Please see Talk:Tartan#Twill construction. The article section it refers to (Tartan#Weaving construction) could use review by someone familiar with weaving terms to make sure that its present wording is as it should be after merging material originally in that section and material from the lead.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:06, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Missing article: Poly-viscose

Poly-viscose and the likely redirects poly–viscose, polyviscose, and poly viscose are redlinks. However, this fabric, a blend of viscose (AKA rayon) and polyester, needs an article. There's a whole lot material about it (especially in connection to the kilt trade, where it has become a popular alternative to wool tartan), but also in broader manufacturing categories. I find mentions of it in various WP articles [1]. I would create a WP:STUB on it, but I'm eyeballs deep in an overhaul of the Tartan article (for two weeks running). PS: The Wiktionary entry wikt:polyviscose is wrong, and has a silly folk etymology in it: "A polymer manufactured from plant cellulose". PPS: It's frequently referred to as PV, which presently redirects to Photovoltaics, so that would need a {{Redirect|PV|the polymer blend material|Poly-viscose}} hatnote. I've also seen it referred to as P-V, which is a redlink. PPPS: Should also have redirects at polyester-viscose, polyester–viscose, polyester-rayon, polyester–rayon; viscose-polyester, etc.; polyester–viscose blend, etc.; and poly/viscose, etc.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:11, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Hello, Please note that Water frame, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 26 June 2023 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team

Draft:Baloch embroidery needle work

Hello, Textile Arts WikiProject,

I've been delaying the deletion of this draft for a while now because I thought someone knowledgeable could craft a short article on this subject. This WikiProject doesn't look terrily active but I'm posting here in case we have any members who are well-versed in embroidery and who might be interested. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@Liz I think there is already an article on the subject (Balochi needlework). Possible merge? EndTheory (✉ • ✎) 20:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Designs in Machine Embroidery magazine

Please see Articles for deletion/Designs in Machine Embroidery. You all are invited to add your comments.

--01:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC) A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)