User talk:Megalibrarygirl/Archives/2017/July

My article got declined

Hey, My article got declined (Draft:Sutherland Shire Libraries) and the person asked me to remove some of the references????? I tried hard to put in news reports etc. Not sure where to go from here. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 09:12, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

(mind if I butt in -- a page troller from New Jersey) -- Hey looks like a good article to me -- well-written, informative, good information. Let's add a few more references and post it to mainspace.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 09:43, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
@Towwsulcer: thanks for the help! Also, there's no need to cut out affiliated sources. Sources like those can be used to support an article, but they can't be used to show notability. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:13, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

@Tomwsulcer:, Megalibrarygirl, thank you for your help! :D --122.108.141.214 (talk) 00:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

🍞🔥

-🐦Do☭torWho42 () 06:43, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, DoctorWho42! Buttery toast is the best. :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:03, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Day of Reconciliation

Hello, Susan. Hope you are well. You may be aware that Wasabi,the,one nominated this article for GA in October last year and it's been sat there ever since. I've reviewed it today and placed it on hold because I'd like the introduction to be expanded. Since doing that, I've noticed that Wasabi hasn't used the site for several weeks and, if he doesn't return, the article will have to be failed. That would be a pity because it's nearly there. As you have been the main contributor, would you be okay keeping an eye on the GA review and picking up the points raised? I suppose you should give Wasabi a week, maybe. I've diarised the GA for end of July and will not close it before then. Thanks very much and all the best. Jack | talk page 20:21, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

BlackJack, sure I'll take a look at the points that need to be addressed. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:58, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Susan. Let me know if I can help.   Jack | talk page 13:19, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Been looking at your contribution record, logs, etc.

I've taken a snoop at your track record here, so I'm wondering if you'd be interested in trying out for adminship? I think you have the experience and temperament to be a mop-operator. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dodger67, I am thinking about it and appreciate your encouragement! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:24, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Put yourself up at WP:ORCP to see if others think you'd be a good candidate. After that if you need a nominator feel free to ping me. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:34, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I would certainly support you as a candidate. You have all the competence, enthusiasm and sincerity required for the job. Please let me know if you decide to go ahead.--Ipigott (talk)

I seem to recall I asked this question some time back. My concern is that I don't think MLG actually needs the administrative toolset for anything much, and people tend to pick up on that and vote accordingly. I personally can't see any reason that she shouldn't have the tools as I think the odds of her abusing them are about zero, but there are a fair number of people on RfA (who spend most of their time reverting vandalism) who think otherwise. You've participated in lots of AfD debates; even ones where things didn't go your way like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shawna Pandya, you made a good argument and tried to improve the article so nobody else would vote to delete it. Other than that, I don't see any other evidence of contributing in the usual admin-y areas like protection requests, intervention against vandalism or ANI, and RfA voters like to see evidence in those areas.

So, to cut a long story short, I'd probably !vote support if you ran for RfA but I'm not sure you'd be successful.

Having said all of that, I recall feeling the same about Ealdgyth about six months ago and she got one of the highest RfA scores of all time, and part of that is one admin activity that you might be interested in is editing the Main Page and its related templates, something that The Rambling Man did day in, day out until he was desysopped. I also think you'd be pretty good at dispute resolution, getting people to calm down and talk things over. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:55, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Dorothy D. Houghton

Don't mean to be doing the old "please can you do something I can't be bothered to", but I rescued this from CSD yesterday and tidied it up - any chance you could take a look and add some more sources if they exist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritchie333 (talkcontribs) 14:40, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: I'm always glad to take a look at articles and help when I'm able! Ask me any time! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:20, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Special Barnstar
Just wanted to say thanks for providing the references in the AFD this morning[1],

if I'm honest I was actually going to give up with it however in a roundabout way you gave me a kick up the backside to get it sourced :),
It was also nice to have the sources kindly provided instead of the usual "NACTOR and GNG" debate which would've wasted hours but instead of all that you kindly provided the sources and as I said gave me a kick up the backside so thank you :) - Your help is/was much appreciated :),
Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:45, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Davey2010 I am so glad to help. Please don't hesitate to call on me to find references in the future. As a librarian, I really enjoy finding sources. Thank you so much for the barnstar! :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:49, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much :), No worries it was well-deserved :), Sorry to be a pain but can you find anything on "Nikita Ramsay", I've managed to source some of the article[2] but despite scraping the barrel I literally can't find anything else, I've sent it to AFD tho as I hadn't read your reply until now but obviously if you can find anything you know the drill lol, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 20:57, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
So far, Davey2010, I'm not finding anything of substance. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:53, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Ah ok :(, Well no worries thanks for looking anyway :), Have a great day, –Davey2010Talk 23:23, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of YoMeryl

 

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A barnstar for you!

  The Special Barnstar
You've done it again with Stacey Kammerman. I couldn't have rescued that. I think I could give you "Sophie Nobody is a Youtuber in Podunk, Iowa" and you could get it to DYK. Article saving beyond the call of duty - utterly brilliant. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:30, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Ritchie333! As a librarian, I really enjoy the challenge! I'm up for a research challenge any day. BTW, Sophie Nobody sounds like she'd be a real hoot. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:32, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

If you could do Frida Ghitis on your way out too, that would be nice. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:18, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ritchie333:, on it! Looks like she's credited more as a writer, but I'll see what I can dig up tomorrow. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 04:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Original Barnstar
Thanks, Megalibrarygirl, for being so good with research (well, you are a librarian) and so nice with newcomers (you are so good with AGF). I want you to know how much all this is appreciated by the wiki community. Rosiestep (talk) 17:39, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Rosiestep, that means a lot to me (you have no idea how much!) Thank you! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:14, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Assume Good faith

Please temper your accusations of non-observance of WP:Good faith as you do here [3] and here [4] and here [5]. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC).

Xxanthippe It is important to remember good faith in all discussions. Reminding people to assume good faith is not an accusation that the person I am reminding is themselves not acting in good faith; instead it is a reminder for all of us to be civil to one another and not make assumptions. We need to be very cautious about accusing people of canvassing and puffery and other issues on Wikipedia, especially in the area of AfD where wikilawyering is often used as a cudgel to end the conversation. Accusations of Canvassing in particular should be given very carefully indeed! Sometimes, editors (myself included) need to be reminded about the good faith policy. I took it upon myself to do so for both you and the other editor. I will do so in the future as needed to remind us all to keep Wikipedia civil and friendly. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
From WP:Assume good faith: exhortations to "Assume Good Faith" can themselves reflect negative assumptions about others. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:51, 13 July 2017 (UTC).
Absolutely, Xxanthippe! I agree that sometimes people may feel that way, but I assure you that I really haven't tried to make any negative assumptions. When I see people making assumptions about others' motives, I do try to remind them to assume good faith to hopefully get the discussion back on track. I do hope that you see the irony of telling me that I was non-observant of WP:Good faith last month and then you visit my talk page to write that exhortations to "Assume Good Faith" can themselves reflect negative assumptions about others. I am confused about your intentions posting this on my talk page and do not find this to be constructive criticism, as I'm obviously familiar with the policy. I had thought the issue you brought above was resolved back in June since you hadn't responded for several weeks and I had pinged you. So why did you post this to my page several weeks after your initial request? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
I can see no evidence of anybody's bad faith in the three examples that I cited of your exhortations to other people to assume good faith. Urging people who you disagree with to assume good faith has to me the perception of aggressiveness, a watch your step sort of warning verging on (but probably short of) bullying. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:48, 16 July 2017 (UTC).
hang on Xxanthippe, the 3rd example you give, Megalibrarygirl made way back in september 2015, since then she has made over 4,500 edits so not exactly overusing the term "assume good faith", and what you see as aggressiveness bordering on bullying others may see as guidance/reminder that some editors, myself included, may need from time to time, btw the comment you made at the first example, "The second sentence above appears to violate restrictions on WP:Canvassing" that you see as perfectly reasonable, others may see as an (aggressive?) attempt at stopping anyone associated with the WIR project from taking part in that particular afd. Wikikit stalker - meowr!Coolabahapple (talk) 13:47, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Coolabahapple for pointing out the very old "AGF" that I used a long time ago.
After this message, Xxanthippe, I now believe that you have some kind of personal problem with my behavior on Wikipedia because you are still making very negative assumptions about my own motives--even after I explained my motives to you in brief above. As Xxanthippe wrote above, they are assuming that I am being aggressive and practically bullying people because Xxanthippe can't see any reason for me to exhort good faith. Let me go through the examples and explain as clearly as possible since my brief explanation obviously wasn't enough.
In the first example cited, I am asking Xxanthippe not to make assumptions and jump to accusations involving canvassing-which is a very serious accusation in and of itself for an editor to make towards another editor. Editors can face consequences for accusations of canvassing. I already explained this above, so Xxanthippe is aware that I disagree and do think accusations of canvassing must be handled carefully. That is why I exhorted AGF (as explained above as well).
In this example, I am reacting to assumptions by another editor that I am involved in puffery which is, in all reality a very low-level grade of fraud. I feel justified in calling that out, and reminding them to AGF because the editor themselves was assuming my intentions. As a librarian, I stand behind my research always and consider accusations of puffery to be problematic.
In the last example that Xxanthippe dug out of my history from almost 2 years ago there was a heated discussion going on around these articles that Xxanthippe is probably not aware of.
I would like to continue to be able to work alongside Xxanthippe, despite our disagreements because there is room for all points of view on Wikipedia and I am not always right. I do reserve the right to exhort AGF, but this discussion has made me aware that it can be triggering for other editors and perhaps I should choose my words more carefully. I would, however, ask that Xxanthippe consider that its possible that they may be making some very serious assumptions and accusations towards me above. I would hope that Xxanthippe can finally understand where I am coming from and stop accusing me of negative behavior. Thank you. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:59, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I'm finding this to be a troubling discussion, as Megalibrarygirl (may I call you MLG for short?) has traditionally been one of the best-faith, most even-tempered editors I have worked with. (Definitely more even-tempered than I am!). Just because someone disagrees and defends their position does not mean that in any way they have a problem with their motives, and to tell others who are attributing motive that they should AGF is a simple and appropriate reminder to focus on content, not contributor. I see nothing negative in MLG's comments in the links above. In fact, it feels a lot like poisoning the well; the links themselves are not particularly inflammatory and they are taken out of context to boot. Montanabw(talk) 23:09, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you and post-event survey for Women in Red 45/Met Open Access Artworks Challenge!

 
I award you with this barnstar of William the Faience Hippopotamus in recognition of your good work at the Women in Red 45/Met Open Access Artworks Challenge!

We'd like to invite your participation in the post-event survey for the Met Open Access Artworks Challenge.--Pharos (talk) 23:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Will do, Pharos! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Article rescue, with a side order of adminship

Upthread, we've talked about article rescue and improvement, and other people have talked about adminship. I have an idea that can combine the two. Click here to get a list of all articles currently tagged for speedy deletion. If you can see a biography article that might show promise, click on it, and if a quick search for sources turns up something positive (as Dorothy D. Houghton did the other day, and Kimberlee Weatherall some time back), remove the {{db-person}} tag from the top, then add the references.

I started doing this around 2013 and have a log at User:Ritchie333/saves that I use to track overturned speedies and AfDs, particularly if I took them to DYK or GA afterwards. After about 18 months of doing this, I was drafted into adminship, and the "save" log went down very well with everybody; probably better than the typical Twinkle CSD log that most admin candidates are armed with. It's more of an anti-CSD log if anything.

If you do that, not only will you be giving service beyond the call of duty by rescuing articles that deserve to be read, you will also have an easily accessible log that will be a very good source to having a successful RfA.

How does all that sound? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:38, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Thank you. I think I'll start keeping better track. I started doing that with AfD situations that I helped through improvement, but not the other ones. I appreciate the advice! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:51, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, folks love logs, lists and graphs. I just made lists of articles I created...but these other lists are cool too Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:55, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Ritchie333 I think I'm ready. Dodger67 has also urged me to consider. I'll do my best! What's the first step? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:36, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
As a first step, can you go to WP:ORCP and start a candidate poll there? That'll give you a few more opinions and reinforce a view that you should go for it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:47, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
@Ritchie333:, here goes! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:52, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Cool, sent you an email too with a large brain dump of other things. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:46, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Run

I noticed you're looking for feedback at ORCP. I have nothing to add there, because I have no idea how an RfA would go for you, I but I would like you to know that if you decide to run, I'd be happy to support you. All the best, Mduvekot (talk) 22:57, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your support. I don't know how it's going to turn out, but I figure I'll at least have a better idea of how to improve in the future from the ORCP. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:19, 19 July 2017 (UTC)


Possible Signpost article

Hi Megalibrarygirl, There is a new WikiProject YouTube starting and I'm wondering if you might write another Signpost article about this one? So far, Jamesjpk was beginning to interview members, but that was cancelled because of COI (WP member interviewing fellow members). Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 13:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

@JoeHebda: what's the turn around time? :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Greetings Megalibrarygirl, Not really sure of timeline as I've not done any Signpost articles yet. Guess it depends on how long it takes for interview questions to be answered. Because of this being a new WP, there might be a need for some different interview questions. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
OK, I'll see if I can get in touch with some of the editors, JoeHebda. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Ping, I'm helping out at Signpost and wanted to make sure you know the writing deadline is coming up in less than 48 hours. Not sure you're shooting for this issue though. Details: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom#Next issue. - Bri (talk) 01:45, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Bri and JoeHebda: The issue after this one would be fine. I have questions, one responder and another interested party. Plus the history of the project's creation might be of interest, too. Thanks for checking in. Summer is a busy time for me and I feel like a billion things are going on at once! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:57, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
@Bri and JoeHebda: As of right now, I'm still waiting for one more participant to get back to me. I have the history of the project and co-project information and 1 interview. But I'd like another voice as well. I've reached out again to make sure I get a response. Just want to keep you in the loop! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:31, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the update Megalibrarygirl. Don't know if this is of any help for the article but I did find the Portal:Comics which has "lotsa stuff" and the article on Stan Lee and List of Marvel Comics characters. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 18:24, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Kittens!

 
Hi Megalibrarygirl, time for a kitten or three:) Coolabahapple (talk) 08:21, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Great, @Coolabahapple:, now I will get nothing done on Wiki because of all the adorable, cute, fluffy...what was I talking about? :D Thank you so much! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:16, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Cats make the Internet go round..... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:23, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 
u votez delete? lol, we haz teh mega reliabl sourcez to pwn you wit!
I am convinced, Ritchie333 and Coolabahapple that cats are already running the internet and are truly the masters of all. I'm a dog person and cute cats are still just too much cute! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Well, not all the time.... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Ritchie333, LMAO! I bow to my feline overlords! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:56, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 
Intnet MWINE!! ... Kittens - furry cuteness .... with CLAWS!!!! Coolabahapple (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC) i too, know my place:))Coolabahapple (talk) 03:50, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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Note, you don't have to do a bunch of new page patrol if you don't want to. But if you do, be very careful with CSD criteria, as errors there will be used heavily against you in an RfA (see my poll). I think you are pretty good right now, all I was suggesting is that in your RfA that you carefully frame what your need for the tools is. Cheers and good luck! — InsertCleverPhraseHere 23:36, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Insertcleverphrasehere for clarifying. I've been a new page patroller for a while, but getting more involved was something I'd wanted to do, but felt like I had other priorities. I like finding articles where I can help the editor improve. I will definitely keep your advice to heart when I go for it, because eventually I think I will do the RfA. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:54, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
My advice also, is to develop a record of editing outside women's issues to establish broad experience. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:18, 27 July 2017 (UTC).
Thank you, Xxanthippe! I am interested in Mexican and Texas history and civil rights in general and I think a lot of my edits reflect that. However, it can always use improvement! Thank you for the feedback. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 02:22, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Notability question

Hello!! I have a notability question, and hoped maybe you'd be able to help. How do you know if the CEO/President of a company is notable enough to have their own article? This man has a bunch of news articles and etc. come up, but they mostly seem to be about his company. Does this mean that only the company should get an article, and not him separately? He has done some significant things that I think would pass notability, but did so because he is CEO...so I guess I'm just not sure whether that means he should get his own article or if he should just be mentioned in the company article. Hope this wasn't too confusingly worded! Any feedback/advice would be super helpful. :) Rtt11talk 04:15, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Rtt11 I totally understood your question. Doing articles about businesspeople is tough on wiki because they are very scrutinized for various reasons. If your sources are mostly about the business and not the CEO, you should probably try to write about the business first. Notability for businesses is also touchy because you must be careful that the sources you use are reliable sources (RS) and not promotional in nature. Judging whether something is promotional or not is subjective, unfortunately. I've seen articles about companies profiled in RS worldwide and still had editors argue that somehow they "knew" the article is promotional and who tried to delete it. Above all else, make sure you are not connected to the company at all. If you'd like to look at some articles I've worked on about companies and orgs, please see Skilcraft, Pink Boots Society and Black Mamba Anti-Poaching Unit. The poaching unit is a good example, because the organization is notable, but so far individuals who run or work in the organization haven't risen to the level of notability, same with Skilcraft and PB Society. As a rule of thumb, I try to find at least 3 to 4 meaty articles in RS to start with. If you have more that cover or mention the organization, that's helpful. Good RS include The New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post, The Guardian, Chicago Tribune and others. If you're in doubt about a source, look it up on Wiki: the article will (usually) tell you if it's a tabloid or has a bias problem.
On the other hand, if your CEO has a lot of meaty, significant coverage he may be notable, too. The WP:GNG states that If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list. You have to learn to judge whether or not that bar has been passed. If you'd like to send me links to your sources, I'll be happy to look at them. Sometimes getting an opinion is helpful when you're starting out. But you will get the hang of it! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your quick response! You're a lifesaver; it's so helpful to me and other newbies. :) I'm pretty sure that the CEO wouldn't be notable enough for his own page, but I did write about the business already (that's why I wanted to write about the CEO - I'd already done a bunch of research about him because of his company). The business page seems to be okay, or at least it hasn't been tagged with anything...it hasn't been officially reviewed yet either, though. I totally get that a lot of this is subjective; that's what's been giving me the most frustrations about Wikipedia. I recently created an article which was reviewed and okay, then torn apart by an editor--I talked to her and she kindly explained how some of the sources could be considered unreliable. I worked with her to fix it and then today (10 days later) the article was completely torn apart again by a different editor who thought the sources approved by the other one were unreliable, and also put a COI on the article! It was so frustrating, especially since I put so much time into fixing it and I don't personally know the subject. Could the person have put COI because of the sources that were autobiographical in nature? Maybe they thought that I was the subject of the article writing about myself? The autobiographical sources were tagged as unreliable, which I was really confused about because I was using them for the early life section, so I thought it would be okay (because of this). So now I'm not sure what I can do! I don't want to delete that material from the early life section because I think it makes the article way more informative, but I definitely wouldn't want to revert everything and start an editing war, especially with the COI claim.Rtt11talk 18:16, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi Rtt11! I'm glad what I've wrote was helpful. Writing about businesses is not easy on Wikipedia. Writing about businesspeople, especially if they are still alive, is even harder. Those articles will often get a lot of scrutiny. The situation with Biographies of Living People (BLP) is that editors have to get everything correct, otherwise Wikipedia could be liable for false information that may hurt someone. Most editors are trying to make sure that everything is correct in order to protect the person being written about. As for the COI, I'd go ahead and inquire on the editor's page why they added the tag. If it's a mistake, you can usually clear it up by discussing things. I'd also avoid autobiographical information as much as possible. It's considered a primary source and Wikipedia editors prefer to have secondary sources and tertiary sources for articles. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Will do, thanks!!! I really appreciate this. Thanks also for taking the time to review my new page about the business. :) Rtt11talk 19:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
No problem, Rtt11! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:31, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Impeachment March

I'm baffled by the number of merge votes. Quite disappointing and frustrating, seeing this play out in similar ways for most anti-Trump articles. If you can think of any other ways to help establish notability and avoid having to reverse a merge at a later date, I'm all ears. I didn't think this one would be such an uphill battle. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:28, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm surprised as well. Do you think we can keep a draft of the article, Another Believer? How is the GA part going? Is it still hung up on the merge vote? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:08, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I will save the article's markup and copy over into draft space if the article is merged. I asked User:Prinsgezinde, who reviewed the Not My Presidents Day article, if they were interested in the Good article review, or at least weighing in on the merge discussion. But, yes, the merge is holding up the GOCE copy edit, and possibly the Good article nomination, too. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:17, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
In the meantime, I've incorporated 9 more sources into the article since we wrapped up our blitz, and I am still looking for more national publications to add. I think the more, the merrier. But the NOTNEWS argument is like hearing nails on a chalkboard... ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:18, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I know. It does feel very partisan, doesn't it, Another Believer. The way I see it, if it's received international attention and involved a coordinated effort with thousands of people, then the event is notable. *sigh* It is frustrating, but I appreciate you putting in the time and effort to preserve our work. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:34, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
+1. I get local protests not being notable, but 30-40 coordinated demonstrations involving thousands of people? The protest should easily be considered notable. *sigh* --Another Believer (Talk) 21:36, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree, Another Believer. I wish a fresh set of eyes could look at this, but I'm sure WikiProject Trump has already been alerted and I can't think of other interested WikiProjects, except maybe WP: US. What do you think? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:43, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I already posted notifications at WPS Donald Trump, Politics (and the American politics task force), and United States. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:44, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I figured you probably had, Another Believer. I wondered if it might fit under the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights since it's an act of protest, but that may be too tangential and too much of a stretch. What do you think? The project is only semi-active anyway. :/ Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:47, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
The Human rights project is fairly new, but seems tangential. I am not sure any of the WikiProjects are particularly active, but hopefully the posts will attract a few more people to the discussion. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:50, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I hope so, too, Another Believer. Thank you for doing all of the legwork. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:55, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

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Silent_Parade

Hi Megalibrarygirl.. I checked the URL you provided for the content you added regarding the subsequent silent parade in Newark, NJ.. https://muse.jhu.edu/book/49201 .. I don't see the Newark parade mentioned on that page..

When I do a 'search inside this book' for the phrase 'silent parade', only one link comes up: https://muse.jhu.edu/chapter/1907403

There is no reference on this page either to the Newark silent parade.

I'm not trying to be an @$$ but this link does not appear to pass verification.

Am I missing something?

Thanks..

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I totally understand, Haxwell. You can't see the reference because you don't have full access with Project MUSE it sounds like. I pasted some of the text into the history of the article when I removed your tags. It mentions Newark, the parade, the anti lynching bill and federated women's club. Sometimes if you don't have full access, the searches don't pull up everything. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:05, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

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new articles, Lillie Rose Ernst and Maren Michelet

I have just created two articles, Maren Michelet (the first teacher of Norwegian in any public high school in the United States and promoter of Scandinavian culture) (many links provided by SusunW) and Lillie Rose Ernst (he leader of The Potters, an artistic group in early XX century St. Louis and one of the first 12 woment to graduate at Washington University in St. Louis). I think they are interesting profiles for the Project Women in Red, therefore I would gladly accept a review by an editor more expert than me.--Elisa.rolle (talk) 11:46, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Dear Megalibrarygirl, I have just posted about Lillie Rose Ernst on your talk page and the article has been tagged for deletion? may you please help me? I will reply on the page but I'm not sure how to face this.--Elisa.rolle (talk) 11:52, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Elisa.rolle first, don't panic! It looks like the discussion is going well on AfD for Ernst. I'm happy to help look for additional sources as well for both articles. Thanks for contacting me, but please remember to stay neutral in your requests and I'll say it again: DON'T PANIC! If the subjects are notable, as I'm sure SusunW would tell you, there is no reason to worry. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:00, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Allafrica.com Archives...

Hello -- I've been working on expanding a Wikipedia article about Kimberly Anyadike, a young female African-American pilot, but I'm having trouble accessing an online source behind a paywall. Do you know of a way I could access an archived article from allafrica.com? The article I'm trying to get to is this one: http://allafrica.com/stories/200907230383.html Thanks, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:24, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Alanna the Brave! I may have trouble accessing All Africa's archives, but I'll put out a request to some other librarians and see what they might have access to. I have found a few other articles about her behind paywalls. Let me know if these will help (you can read the abstracts for most). Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:40, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Wow! Thanks for the work. One of these sources in particular looks useful: "15 year-old girl has made history by flying 'sea to shining sea'". I've been trying to find information about Anyadike meeting California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger after her transcontinental flight, and this article looks like it goes into that. Alanna the Brave (talk) 19:02, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
No problem, Alanna the Brave! I can email you, but it seems you have your email preferences turned off. If you want to email me, first, since I have it turned on in the left-hand menu, please do. I can get you the references. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:10, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

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You're welcome to watch and weigh in here. It's far from my own idea, but it may be overdue. TimothyJosephWood 20:51, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up, Timothyjosephwood! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:25, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

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Absolutely no problem, I'd forgotten that in fact you had said it had been mentioned elsewhere, so I probably shouldn't have jumped to conclusions. Paranoid, much?! ;) all the best! — fortunavelut luna 16:19, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi! It's hard to read intentions through text alone. I don't mind clarifying ever, and please don't ever be afraid to ask for clarification or think you are paranoid! It's better to get it out in the open. That way we can build stronger relationships and trust with one another. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Sources for Draft:Disability and women's health

I have recieved several good sources via the Resource exchange. I can share them with you by mail if you'd mail me first. Thanks for the good start on the draft. I have a busy week ahead so will probably not be able to work on it much over the next few days. I have managed to release one of my "slow drafts", Dignity of risk, into mainspace even though it's brief and a bit rudimentary in places. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Dodger67, I'll probably work on it from time to time. It's a lot more technical than I expected, but very interesting. If you need access to my sources, let me know. I'll also look at Dignity of risk and see if I can beef it up. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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I added new secondary sources for this entry. Let me know what you think! Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haste1066 (talkcontribs) 18:07, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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