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Reestablish Geocode Page

John,

I changed the Geocode page in 2008 after I received the US trademark for the term. This was after a long time of using the term and notifying many organizations regarding its use. There are many alternative ways to identify geographic coordinates. The correct term for identifying longitude, latitude, and altitude is the term geographic coordinates.

The term Geocode specifically is used to identify another way of naming a single number that represent all coordinates combined into a number string. The original term used in our patent is geospatial coordinate because it captures in a single numeric format all the geospatial information for a single location point. We decided to name this for commercial use Geocode which stands for a Geospatial Entity Object Code because the resulting item of data can be used as a data entity in ERD database technology or a data object when used in object oriented code. It is a specialized way of formatting geospatial metadata. As a computer technologist I hope this provides you a better understanding of the distinction between the terms geographic coordinates and Geocode.

Our ownership if the term begins in 1998 when we copyrighted the software to enable creating the Geocode format for digital media. The U.S. Copyright Number is TX0006603127.

Here is the link: http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=2&ti=1,2&Search%5FArg=geocode&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=25&PID=zQyTBiS48HAu84lJcxwB5CNgj21b&SEQ=20120722082309&SID=1

We submitted our first patent application in 1999 for the Geocode process that was part of our operating system patent. This patent was approved on January 20, 2004. The U.S. Patent Number is 6,681,231.

Here is the link: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=20&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=6681231&OS=6681231&RS=6681231

Our second patent the specifically made the Geocode and independent claim or process was approved on September 12, 2006. The U.S. Patent Number is 7,107,286.

Here is the link: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=3&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%22geospatial+media%22&OS="geospatial+media"&RS="geospatial+media"

After receiving the patent to make the Geocode an independent process we submitted our trademark application and the US trademark was approved on December 12, 2006. The U.S. Registration Number is 3182988.

Here is the link: http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78663072

On September 1, 2011 the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers (SMPTE) recognized our Geocode as an “essential patent claim” as an industry standard to encode geospatial information into digital media. The standard is SMPTE 330M – Unique Material Identifier (UMID). I can send you a PDF copy of the standard if you need this for verification of our claim.

On February 1, 2012 our trademark was recognized as a “famous” trademark when our Section 15 affidavit was accepted by the USPTO. Since this designation has happened we submitted a WIPO application in June 12, 2012 for the trademark to register in all EU and other countries.

John, I have worked hard over the past 18 years making the term Geocode a specialized term for identifying a specific type of data format for geospatial information. Eliminating our page on Wikipedia dilutes our term into a generic term.

I hope you will establish our page on Wikipedia.

Thank you for your time and cooperation in this matter.

New Media (talk) 10:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry to seem to fob you off, but as this page was redirected as a result of the community discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geocode, the person you need to approach is user The Bushranger (talk), the administrator who closed it. To save you the trouble of copying all this out again, I will make a note on his talk page pointing him to it. If after discussion with him your concerns are not addressed, you can take them to WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 14:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, JohnCD. You have new messages at Electriccatfish2's talk page.
Message added 20:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Electric Catfish 20:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Also, I saw what you wrote on Mifter Public's page. I thought about tagging it as a hoax, but I decided to AGF that he didn't know about the policies here and he probably thought that it was "cool" to have written a page here. I decided to tag it as a test page, which is much less severe than a hoax and wouldn't bite him. Unfortunately, he found the nonsense tags before I did and decided to leave. Best, Electric Catfish 11:11, 25 July 2012 (UTC).

DrOlivier

Hi John. It's probably time to block DrOlivier (talk · contribs) who continued spamming after the last warning you gave and I just wanted to point out if you hadn't noticed that there's a sock or at least a meatpuppet Nanie Dinsay Steyn (talk · contribs). Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 15:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Blocked both, they're evidently not going to stop. I think probably meatpuppets rather than sock, today's edits overlap, but it makes no difference. I don't think it needs an SPI, yet, but I'll start one if those "articles" start reappearing from new accounts. There is Nsteyn (talk) as well, but that one hasn't edited since February. JohnCD (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Lia Ali

Lia Ali was deleted from wikipedia. I got a copy of the deleted article via my deletion tracker tool and contacted her. She has provided me with references and artwork licensed under cc-by. Please reconsider moving the article back. I have cleaned up the article here User:Mdupont/Lia_Ali James Michael DuPont (talk) 16:43, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

That looks much too much like a gallery catalogue or advertisement. Ms Ali has already been told that autobiography is strongly discouraged, and Wikipedia is very resistant to self-promotion. You need fewer pictures - I would suggest two or at most three - and more text. "Lia Ali is a female painter from Bulgaria" doesn't even give enough assertion of importance to pass WP:CSD#A7. The article needs to explain what she has achieved, why she is more than just another artist who has exhibitions, and how she meets WP:ARTIST. I haven't gone through the references in detail, but they all seem to be about a recent exhibition, and similarity of wording - see this Google result suggests that at least some are press-release based, which is no good for notability. Her original article said she had painted murals at various churches and cathedrals - some independent comment about those would help.

As this is in effect autobiography, when it is ready you should submit it via WP:AFC by clicking "Submit the page!" in the box at the top, to get some independent eyes on it. JohnCD (talk) 23:16, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

thanks for the feedback, I will see what I can do. James Michael DuPont (talk) 23:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The South (band)

Jaketown22 (talk) 20:43, 29 July 2012 (UTC) Hi Hope you are well. About a year ago you deleted a page for a band called "The South". Here is the link for quick reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_south_%28band%29

At the time I think there was a number of objections that were objectionable due to there source. There are members of the band "The Beautiful South" that don't like what we are doing. Anyway, Since the page was set up the band now have been interviewed on a number of notable TV and Radio and newspaper articles, have finished work on their new album and it will be released in Nov this year through Universal.

The song "the entertainer" has had radio coverage in several counties in the UK and is available free from the bands new official site. Zoo records have also signed them on a 5 album deal (source: Music Week (press))

The band have played at several major festivals in the UK (http://www.thesouth.co.uk) including being featured on BBC TV Scotland (45 minute set to be broadcast on Saturday 4th August)

Dave Hemmingway, the lead singer has been in 2 major bands in the past; The Housemartins (who he foundered with Paul heaton and aka Fat Boy Slim) and then the Beautiful South, he has also previously released a solo album. Dave is famous in his own right.

Can you tell me what I need to do to get this page back up? I think 1 year on this must be reviewed again.

I'm new to wikipedia so any help would be massively appreciated.

Regards

Jake

I'm not sure why you ask me? If you click on the "redlink" in the second line of your message above, it shows you that the article was actually deleted by Salvio Giuliano (talk) as a result of the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The South (band), so he is the person you need to approach first; but I will provide some advice on your talk page later today. JohnCD (talk) 14:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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User:Professorpotter

Hey, JohnCD, I'm not sure how much you know about this, but it's gotta be more than i know, and you at least have more tools to clean up with. I've been seeing several pages created by a User:Professorpotter which are obviously intended to be for an education program-type thing. I PRODded the first one I saw, but after seeing that this guy is making several pages and might actually be legit, I removed the PRODs (someone else had prodded another one) and moved the articles into his userspace. Is there anything better that I should do? Thanks, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:44, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you did exactly the right thing. The only extra tidying-up I found to do was by looking at "What links here" for the mainspace redirects - there was an incoming one from WP:SUP#Georgia Institute of Technology - Introductory Neuroscience (Spring 2007-present) which I have updated (and fixed up into the same format as the other entries). An alternative the Prof might prefer is "Wikipedia:GeorgiaTech-IntroNeuro" etc; that's what some other education projects do. I will drop him a note offering to move them to that format. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 19:16, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Re:declining speedy

You're right, sorry, I have apparently forgotten the criteria for Speedy Deletion... I'm reading up on them now. I might vaguely contest the notability of an article on an Olympic Athlete on the grounds that there's no info on how he's done yet, but there aren't actually any references at all on the article, so I'll BLP PROD it. Thanks. gaidheal1 ^{(talk♫contribs)} 16:38, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

A7 is a deliberately low bar - it does not require references, only a "credible claim" of importance. Per WP:NSPORTS#Generally acceptable standards, any Olympic athlete would pass notability, the thought behind that being that for anyone at that level there will certainly be the independent coverage needed for the WP:GNG. A better course than BLP-prod would be to look for a reference, thus checking that it isn't a hoax, and add one if found - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL pops up several. JohnCD (talk) 16:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Songs sketches and monologues of Dan Leno

Hi there, I have probably done it wrong, but I tried to rename the article so created a new one to incorporate the new title. Is this correct? -- Cassianto^Talk 19:30, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

No, that's not the way to do it, but don't worry, I'm sorting it out. You mustn't do a cut-and-paste move to a new title and delete the old one, because that loses the whole edit history, which we are required by the license terms to maintain so as to attribute all the contributions. Also, all the incoming links to the old title are left dangling. The right way to do it is with the "Move" tab at the top of the page - if you don't see it, it's probably in a drop-down list just left of the search box. The old title will be left as a redirect, which is usually the right thing to do, as in this case; if not, it can be tagged {{db-r3}}, but you need to click "What links here" to be sure you aren't cutting off any links. JohnCD (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah, OK, sorry for generating the extra work. I did it again as the title was wrong. Sorry I did it before I got your reply. I will learn this for next Tim. Sorry for any inconvenience. -- Cassianto^Talk 19:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

It's now at Songs sketches and monologues of Dan Leno, but I still have some redirects to sort out. Are you saying that this is still not the right title? If not, what should it be? JohnCD (talk) 19:46, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I missed out a comma between "Songs" and "sketches", thats all. Sorry. -- Cassianto^Talk 19:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, all sorted out, I think. Now at Songs, sketches and monologues of Dan Leno with redirects from all the old titles. Now, I might actually read the article, it looks interesting... JohnCD (talk) 20:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that and I'm so sorry for the confusion. All of the fixes in my watch list have shown up and they look like a right nightmare!. Hope you enjoy both the Leno articles! -- Cassianto^Talk 20:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries! I should like to have seen him in action. If you need it again, the "how-to" guide is WP:Moving a page. JohnCD (talk) 21:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Thx

Thanks for fixing the Radio page title with the typo. Tony (talk) 00:57, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Aces High @ 23 Wall Street for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Aces High @ 23 Wall Street is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aces High @ 23 Wall Street until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 07:25, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

John regarding your comment about a speedy criteria for books, I think it's a great idea. I just had a look at the [for A9] and it seems to have started for being used with orphaned articles, but has moved into being a more general criteria (interesting that). To request an extension to A9 to include books would I just need to post on WT:CSD (to start with anyway)?

Yes, WT:CSD would be the place to suggest it. It would need to be something like "Apparently self-published book with no indication of importance or significance". There might be objection because it is not so clear-cut as A9 - I'm not sure how clear the definition of "self-published" is. One could tighten it by limiting it to cases where the article author was the book's author, but that is usually a fairly WP:DUCK conclusion. JohnCD (talk) 17:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good to me & I will get to proposing it. Do you think it would need to be a new criteria (eg A11)? Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 07:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think better a new one rather than try to extend A9. Don't be surprised if it's not accepted - there is (understandable) resistance to extending the scope of speedy deletion. JohnCD (talk) 11:13, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Here is the next one!. JohnCD (talk) 14:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it would seem that way (having read through the history), but you never know till you try. Eventually I will get to it. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 08:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism Notice

Sup, JohnCD? I've left a Vandalism notice for Gauge00 that will hopefully convince him to never Wikipedia again for him to read after the 1-week ban you've set for him expires. Thanks, --Jayemd (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I don't think that addition to his talk page was helpful, and I thought seriously about reverting it, but he has probably seen it by now. The reasons it was unhelpful are (a) it seems like an unnecessary slap on the wrist after he has just been hit with the heavy hammer of a week's block, and (b) this is evidently someone who has difficulty controlling his temper, and it is likely to seem to him like piling on, or kicking him when he is down, and so is not likely to improve things.

Also, (c) your accusation of vandalism is mistaken. It is important not to misuse that word. I haven't checked all his edits, but it seems he is trying to insert material against consensus, edit warring, and being uncivil. None of that is desirable, but none of it is vandalism, which is "a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia". Check out WP:Vandalism#What is not vandalism: "Disruptive editing or stubbornness" and "Harassment or personal attacks" come under that heading. JohnCD (talk) 23:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage newsletter

Hey all. Some quick but important updates on what we've been up to and what's coming up next :).

The curation toolbar, our Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement. We're going to be deploying it, along with a pile of bugfixes, to wikipedia on 9 August. After a few days to check it doesn't make anything explode or die, we'll be sticking up a big notice and sending out an additional newsletter inviting people to test it out and give us feedback :). This will be followed by two office hours sessions - one on Tuesday the 14th of August at 19:00 UTC for all us Europeans, and one on Wednesday the 15th at 23:00 UTC for the East Coasters out there :). As always, these will be held in #wikimedia-office; drop me a note if you want to know how to easily get on IRC, or if you aren't able to attend but would like the logs.

I hope to see a lot of you there; it's going to be a big day for everyone involved, I think :). I'll have more notes after the deployment! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 20:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

About Alvaro Bishaj - thank you

Hi JohnCD. To be honest, my first reaction was "HMoG, a sysop has deleted Shirt58/Alvaro Bishaj, a draft article in my userspace. That obviously means I must have done something horribly, horribly wrong." Heh. Thank you! --Shirt58 (talk) 11:14, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries. I unchecked the "leave a redirect" box, to save you having to tag it for deletion. JohnCD (talk) 11:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Bought you a pie! Thanks. Cdctmom1980 (talk) 12:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you! JohnCD (talk) 13:35, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

Sorry for those AIV's, it was a mistake. I was reverting a lot if vandalism (see contribs) and must of reported the wrong two. Ho hum, accidents happen. As to why I'm giving you this, someone told me that they have never seen you unhappy, so I thought I should cheer you up Chip123456 13:50, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks. I shall get fat (but happy) with all these gifts! JohnCD (talk) 13:55, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Haha, yes. But, it really was an accident. I've renamed the thread slightly, it was a little over stated. Thanks.--Chip¹²³⁴⁵⁶ 14:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

why

why did you delete my pageGeorgeT2008 (talk) 19:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Because it was a hoax, like your other articles, and that is why you have been indef-blocked. JohnCD (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

User:GeorgeT2008

John, thanks for blocking him, it is getting fairly persistent. There is an open SPI I created involving him Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grahamfs2009 - I don't know what the process is now that he is blocked. He certainly admits knowing the other user (see User talk:Anthony Bradbury#relation but that both user claims to be youth football managers and created the same hoax articles quacks to me as does their behaviour when challenged (failing to provide references, blanking talk pages). NtheP (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

The SPI may as well run, to provide a baseline should more socks appear to try to carry on the Ben Trulli/BBFC hoaxes. It sometimes takes a long time for this sort of hoaxer to realise that he isn't getting anywhere. JohnCD (talk) 20:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

thx, both pages remain on my watchlist although I see Ben Trulli has been salted. NtheP (talk) 20:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Abdoreza Razmjoo

Hi, according to a new link please restore the article abdolreza razmjoo http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:P11.pdf صورت زخمی Source pesian Name http://www.bfilmnews.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farkoh (talk • contribs) 19:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

http://www.bfilmnews.com/pdf/1391/05/15/tv.html ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farkoh (talk • contribs) 20:07, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

What does that reference actually say about him? If it is helpful, add it to the draft article at User:Farkoh/Abdolreza Razmjoo. You need to make that draft as good as you can, before anyone will be convinced to restore it. JohnCD (talk) 22:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

hi,I added my link.Please check Thank you.my friend Farkoh (talk) 13:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected

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A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for the advice! Now I understand what to do. Twinkle makes it easy for me to patrol new pages, and I even find it fun., Thanks! TheChampionMan1234 03:26, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

New Pages newsletter

Hey all :)

A couple of new things.

First, you'll note that all the project titles have now changed to the Page Curation prefix, rather than having the New Pages Feed prefix. This is because the overarching project name has changed to Page Curation; the feed is still known as New Pages Feed, and the Curation Toolbar is still the Curation Toolbar. Hopefully this will be the last namechange ;p.

On the subject of the Curation Toolbar (nice segue, Oliver!) - it's now deployed on Wikipedia. Just open up any article in the New Pages Feed and it should appear on the right.

It's still a beta version - bugs are expected - and we've got a lot more work to do. But if you see something going wrong, or a feature missing, drop me a note or post on the project talkpage and I'll be happy to help :). Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

why delete

why you delete my bzout page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.113.238.4 (talk) 04:48, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place for you to promote your new website - see the advice on your talk page,and also Wikipedia is not about YOU. JohnCD (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Eurland

Thank you! And yes, it may be deleted and I see why. But give me time, there are some refrences that weren't added yet so we'll see.CrownprinceJohannes (talk) 01:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

A WP:Proposed deletion gives you seven days. You are entitled to remove it, but that would start an WP:Articles for deletion discussion. A neatly presented article, but I'm afraid not an encyclopedic subject. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 01:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Satellite Spies

Hi John,

I have just read your article talk-page, on Satellite spies, with Craig, our band manager. I apologise if I offended you. My intention was not to re-ignite a dispute, only add historically accurate information.

So for that I am sorry. We were in the middle of our band meeting; discussing up and coming performance touring, and our next recording session, when Wikipedia came up. I'll leave the article alone if you desire; I simply wanted to project reality - not fantasy.

With regards to the It Must Be Love track information, Craig was just sharing with you. Please enter the website operated by the 'Recording Industry Association of New Zealand'. Internet site below: http://rianz.org.nz/rianz/oldchart.asp

Enter into top left hand box, chart 1158 dated 9th of May 1999. You will see I email you the truth. ARL is indeed the Record Label and it was a Platinum seller, according to RIANZ.

Cheers,

Deane (I won't edit anymore John) I was simply trying to add official records, not win a popularity contest. I NEVER MEANT TO ANNOY YOU.

I apologise again John - sorry mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.10.102 (talk) 04:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Satellite Spies again

Good evening John,

I write to you with respect and courtesy. I seek to provide you formal accurate information sourced from the 'Recording Industry Association of New Zealand'.

They have emailed me an excel spread sheet (showing the record company information, together with the year of chart success and release for the last single listed under discography)

Would you permit me to email you this document? The purpose of me doing so is that I need to convey to you I have no malice through my actions; I simply seek to include facts - which seem very difficult to share within the article.

If you are interested in the truth of this matter (because, I originally sought to edit this information into the article); If you would be so kind as to provide me an email address in order for me to send you this brief, but poignant document; it would suit Wikipedia’s code of conduct well.

I thank you for your attention to this matter.

Yours faithfully,

Deane Sutherland Satellite Spies Email: jazzcafe@windowslive.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by DunedinYoh (talk • contribs) 12:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I will reply here tomorrow - sorry, I am out of time tonight. You might like to look at WP:COIN#Satellite Spies where I have asked whether anyone uninvolved would like to help. Do I gather from your note that Satellite Spies is still going? JohnCD (talk)

It does not sound as though this spreadsheet gives any more than the RIANZ link you gave above, or the muzic.net.nz reference that is already in the article. The fact that It Must Be Love was in the NZ Top 40 is about the only solidly documented fact we do have. Wikipedia works on a policy of WP:Verifiability which says that "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source" so that readers who want to check are in principle able to do so. Personal knowledge and private communications are no good. "Reliable" implies a reputation for accuracy and independent fact-checking, so blogs, private websites and places where anyone can post anything do not count as reliable. That is why all the lengthy rants which I have archived from the article talk page have absolutely no bearing on making an encyclopedia article .

Verifiability becomes particularly important when, as here, the facts are disputed.

It is clear that to sift through the mess of accusations and counter-accusations and try to form a balanced judgement and write a substantial article would be a long process and, frankly, I doubt whether anyone uninvolved is interested enough to do it, or whether anything worthwhile for the encyclopedia would emerge if they did - if you are still feuding 25 years after the split, things are unlikely to be so clear-cut that the result would come down completely on one side or the other: it would be more likely "He said, but they said, but he objected, but the other lot denied, but he accused... ". About the only reliably documented fact is that It Must Be Love was in the NZ Top 40, and I do not see any article emerging which contains much more than "SS was a band formed by Sutherland and Loveys, it has some success with Destiny in Motion and supported Dire Straits; in 1987 they split up; rights to subsequent use of the name have been and still are disputed and at times there have been two bands calling themselves SS, one of which had a 1999 Top 40 hit with It Must Be Love."

Any details which are disputed, like ownership of rights to records, will simply be left out. Anything that causes more edit warring will be removed. I am very tempted to suggest deleting the whole thing, but I think there is an interesting story in there if we can find reliable sources; however if edit warring continues in the long term so that the article has to be permanently protected, we might well conclude that it is more trouble than it is worth. Edit warring is a disaster because, if allowed, articles end in the form preferred by the most obstinate combatant and, even worse, people who would rather write content than argue and fight are driven away from the project.

The most useful thing you can provide is pointers to any published, reliable sources about the band and its history.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 00:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Varin Mehta

Hey mate. A few months ago you deleted the page Varin Mehta due to him not making a fully-pro debut yet. Well currently he is on trial with an Indian I-League club which is considered fully-pro (see WP:FPL) so if you dont mind can you restore the article. I know that technically he is still not notable. That is why I am also asking that after restoring can you redirect the page to User:Arsenalkid700/Varin Mehta. I just want to do some work on the article just in case. Cheers. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 00:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Please do not move the article back to the main space without adding a reference from a reliable source to confirm that he actually has played at the appropriate level. People keep trying with "he's sure to play tomorrow/next week/next month... " etc, but that's all WP:CRYSTAL and WP:UPANDCOMING and it will just be deleted. It will almost certainly be tagged with WP:CSD#G4, so explain in your edit summary why it's now OK. Notice that I have commented out the categories while it's in user space. JohnCD (talk) 19:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Dont worry, as an active member on most the AfD's at WikiProject Football, I am used to those reasons for why a player is notable. I will make sure it stays in my userspace till notability is achieved. Cheers. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 20:18, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Blocking of IP troll - thanks

Hi JohnCD, I just wanted to say thank you for your quick work in blocking the various IPs that were trolling the women in video games articles. I have every expectation that this guy will start up again as soon as the various blocks expire; if this is the case, would you mind me bringing it straight to you, or should I restate the issue at ANI? Thanks again, Euchrid (talk) 03:05, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

No objection to you asking me, but my hours are pretty irregular. Best course might be a report to WP:AIV on the lines of "Return of IP-hopping misogynist troll previously blocked for a month, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive763#IP editor inserting misogynist rants into archives and User talk:58.7.138.14." JohnCD (talk) 19:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Re a recent page move.

I see you recently moved "Human genetic diversity: Lewontin's fallacy" (scientific paper) to Human genetic diversity: Lewontin's fallacy. I wonder if you could clarify for me whether you read the extensive discussions on the article talk page before doing so? As recently as August last year, the article name was discussed, [1], and the result seems clear - the name was appropriate. We should not be suggesting that one proponent in a controversial scientific debate as propagating a 'fallacy', as the title now implies - it violates WP:NPOV. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

No, I did the move in response to a db-move request from Reywas92 (talk), and I evidently did not do enough homework. Give me a little time to read all the arguments and I will move it back unless I see reason not to. (Sigh) There were a hundred (well, seven) redirects to sort out, too. I hate page moves. JohnCD (talk) 17:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done or rather, undone. Thanks for pointing this out. JohnCD (talk) 23:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

And thanks go to you for sorting it out so promptly. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:23, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

The John Cooper School

Thank you, John. From the history, the vandalism occurred from Jh2013 - is that from Cooper's address (74.51.196)?

I updated the page yesterday, in addition to the vandal, so the version that is now up needs updating. Will I be able to go in and update it now from Cooper's address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deb812 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

User account anonymity is protected except in extreme emergency, so I cannot say whether user Jh2013 was editing from the school, though it seems likely. I have blocked that account indefinitely. 74.51.196.146 is an IP address registered to the school, which another administrator has blocked for two weeks. Since you have been able to edit this talk page, you are evidently still able to edit while logged in. Please use an WP:Edit summary to explain your edit, lest it be taken for more vandalism. JohnCD (talk) 14:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Proof my sandbox

Thanks for all of your help and suggestions with my page, Cooperative Network. I have rewritten some of it, deleted some, and cited more sources. Would you be able to look it over again and see if I have fixed all of the problems with it? I would really appreciate more feedback, so that this article can get published! Thanks!! Ekappelman (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)ekappelman

I will reply on your talk page, probably tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

deleted page

We obviously have got it wrong when listing our business on Wikipedia. It would be good if you could offer a clear reason why deleted. If this is the policy you must have a large team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.6.128.234 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 23 August 2012

Wikipedia isn't a place for companies, or people, to "list" themselves, it's a project to build a neutral, factual encyclopedia and is not for advertising or promotion of any kind. For that reason, among others, company accounts are not allowed, only individuals, and user pages are anyway not for self-promotion. The place for information about companies is in the main encyclopedia, where there has been an article about Rossi Boots since 2007. Your interest in it is welcome, but please don't edit it directly - read WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest. Make any suggestions on the talk page, and note that anything added needs to be verifiable from a reliable, published source - personal knowledge is not enough. Wikipedia has quite a large team, yes: millions of accounts, tens of thousands of active users, a few hundred administrators, all volunteers. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:42, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

A10 Tagging

Hi John! Instead of tagging for A10, should I just redirect it into the main article? Thanks, Electric Catfish 16:35, 23 August 2012 (UTC).

Depends whether it seems a useful redirect. That one looked quite a likely mis-spelling. JohnCD (talk) 17:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Electric Catfish 17:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Deleted page Deleting a page i set up

Hi, you deleted a page called Deleting a page i set up created by Sj838 (talk · contribs). I never saw the page but trust your judgment that it falls under G2. I'm assuming that the comment left by Thebestofall007 (talk · contribs) on Sj838's talk page includes a word-for-word copy-paste of the content of that test page. Does it?

The reason I ask is that I'm a little concerned about the possibility that Sj838 is being "hassled by someone who found my details". I see no evidence of on-wiki harassment of this user, and since Sj838 has email enabled I wonder if the claimed harassment is being done via email. This is related to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inkey Jones. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was identical. Before deleting it, I went to Sj838's talk page, and saw that Thebestofall had done exactly the right thing when he found that "article": tagged it G2 but copied the content to Sj838's talk and put a "helpme" on it. Sj blanked the relevant page, and another user tagged it G7, but I declined that because it had been edited by several others. It looks a messy situation, but I don't see what we can do to help - if someone has found details, that cat is out of the bag now. I'm afraid this is another person learning the hard way that what you do on the internet can have consequences in real life. JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Understood, and thanks for taking the time to look that up. Will advise the user shortly. I noticed that s/he has placed his/her email address on a publicly visible talk page at least once. If s/he wishes to withdraw that, is that oversightable? —KuyaBriBri^Talk 22:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have rev-deleted it. JohnCD (talk) 22:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

One more. Thanks again. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 22:33, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I've just seen that, but I can't do anything about it because it wasn't reverted or archived for months, so to get rid of it would mean rev-deleting over 40 revisions of a large talk page. It's well buried in the archives, that'll have to do. JohnCD (talk) 22:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

201.230.216.87

Hi, I noticed you recently deleted unneeded pages made by this user. You may have noticed that I posted on the user's talk page that if they continue to do so, they may be blocked from editing. However, another user, User:Shearonink, removed it because he thinks the user has not edited since March 2010 and posted on my talk page saying it was done in error. Please can you let User:Shearonink know that I have done the right thing? Thanks, MadGuy7023 (talk) 16:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done - I explained on your talk page and left Shearonink a talkback tag. JohnCD (talk) 16:19, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that. MadGuy7023 (talk) 16:21, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Has started creating unneeded pages again. MadGuy7023 (talk) 17:44, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Someone else has now started doing so, but this time not with Bold Text. User is 85.98.219.57 MadGuy7023 (talk) 18:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

We are having a cosmopolitan day! Mr. Bold text was in Peru. I have blocked that IP for 31 hours, and (for the second time ever) used Special:Nuke, a weapon of mass destruction that can zap with one click all the recent contributions from an IP or user. The other IP is in Turkey, and his contributions looked as though they were seriously intended, so I left a message saying he needed to register and pointing him to :tr. JohnCD (talk) 19:00, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

How did you find out the person who created pages with bold text was in Peru? And how do you put CSD warning templates on someone's talk page using Twinkle? MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:29, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

At the bottom of the "User contributions" page for an IP there are various links, including "WHOIS" which tells you who the IP is registered to; often that is just an ISP, but sometimes it shows it's a school or college, which is useful to know. Further along is "Geolocate" which tells you where the IP is, though once again it's the ISP rather than the actual user, and may not be that accurate - I am in north-west England, on a dynamic IP, and Geolocate puts me anywhere from London to Liverpool. It gives the country, though, and in a big country like Peru or the US the city is probably accurate. Can't help with Twinkle, I've never used it. JohnCD (talk) 19:42, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for fixing my errant revert of MadGuy7023's Warning to that IP-editor. I've apologized on Mad's talkpage but wanted to tell you thanks as well. Shearonink (talk) 18:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries! As you can see above, the warning didn't stop him for long. JohnCD (talk) 19:09, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Permanently delete

Can you permanently delete my account thanks.

--Simbaha1 on World 43 22:04, 24 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simbaha2 (talk • contribs)

No, I can't - see Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing which tells you how to request that. JohnCD (talk) 22:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Mr.MiketheNintendoGuy - Thanks

He was getting to be a pest. Thanks for the quick action. Appreciate. it. Regards, --Manway 17:17, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Exacompta

I see what you are saying now. Can I still create a new page for it then? I'll just avoid those types of phrases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SH514 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but it's not just a matter of leaving out a few adjectives (though "leave out adjectives" is always good advice). You must not write as if it is the company making announcements about itself and its products - that's not what an encyclopedia is for. You are not writing for the company, you are writing for Wikipedia about the company, from outside. You have to establish Notability by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Read WP:Your first article and User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard. JohnCD (talk) 15:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

re: speedy delete

hey no problem. though the stub need a *lot* of work as its only one line and a link :-) 86.26.57.122 (talk) 20:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess this is Gomba. Yes, it's basic, but there's information there - what it is, where it is, population, etc. Much better than nothing. It's generally agreed that any inhabited place that can be found on a reliable map is notable. JohnCD (talk) 20:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Subpage

John, somebody created a subpage of this: User talk:JohnCD/Whydeleted. Cheers, --Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll copy it here and answer here. JohnCD (talk) 13:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Jay Venom

Hey its Liam 754, I made this page and I worked hard on it for Jay Venom. He is verified on twitter so when your patrol guy said for his account to be deleted I dont understand why. He said it was because he needed more reliable sources but i had sources on there. Please advise why this account got deleted. I worked hard on it.--Liam754 (talk) 11:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes hi im also a Jay Venom fan and I edited some parts as well and provided references to this article Liam created. Jay is Verified on twitter and being verified on twitter is reliable because only celebrities or people of importance get verified What we can do to keep the article or so it wont get delete if we create a new one? --Jayvenom09 (talk) 11:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was a nicely-presented article, but Wikipedia is quite choosy about who can have articles. WP:MUSICBIO explains what a performer needs to have achieved before having one. Just auditioning for American Idol and being on Twitter is not enough. Good luck with his career, but he's not ready for Wikipedia yet. Why not make him a page on Myspace? JohnCD (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

He didnt just audition for American Idol he WAS on the show, He is working with well known artist. He has an album coming out. He is being mentored by Missy Elliott has written music for One Direction up coming album. I mean really Myspace ? Sorry not to sound rude but he is beyond just a myspace artist. --Jayvenom09 (talk) 21:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Not mention his single "Goes On" is already getting air time on radio stations But i read the info we're gonna have to add more " reliable" sources to his page next time Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayvenom09 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

The article said he "made to the next round of auditions to Hollywood week only to get cut from the competition before the live shows". In any case, just being on Idol wouldn't be enough, nor is being mentored by someone famous or having an "album coming out". WP:MUSICBIO is looking for more like two albums actually released by a major label, or a song in the national charts. Just adding more references won't do, you need to wait until his career progresses and you have refs to show he has actually achieved something at the MUSICBIO level. JohnCD (talk) 09:56, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Lithbot

Hi John

Just wanting to get your advice on this user. I actually stumbled across him by accident when I found a sock of User:Trueman31 on the EastEnders page. He has actually reverted the socks edit. From what I can find out this doesn't appear to be anyones bot on Wikipedia, looks as if someone is just including "bot" in the name. I'm not sure on what to do though as I'm quite surprised that wasn't picked up when the person registered the account! I was just going to leave it as he's only made about 3 edits in the last month and just watch the account, but then if he's making edits like this one (where he reverted the sock) to Wikipedia then I was worried some people would think that this is a genuine bot like User:ClueBot. Advice please?--5 albert square (talk) 01:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

If in doubt about a username, you can post at WP:UAA which is where the experts hang out. In this case, though that vandal-revert edit is one that Cluebot might perhaps have done, the user seems (from the user page) to be human, so I think the right course is a welcome and {{uw-username}}, and I have done that. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

...and user has done a CHU to User:LithBrig. No problem. JohnCD (talk) 15:29, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah thanks, I just didn't want to appear bitey by warning him about his name after so few edits, especially when some of them were like a month or so old. I did consider a WP:UAA but I thought it may get rejected as he'd only edited a few times over the last month. Funny how things pan out isn't it? I only went on the EastEnders article to sort out a sockpuppet, then found a username violation so effectively got 2 for the price of 1!! Always seems to happen in the middle of the night when you're about to log off as well!!--5 albert square (talk) 21:46, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I've noticed that. JohnCD (talk) 21:53, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Let Jimmy Wales alone. Good bye, Larry Sanger.

Your deletion of User Page, Creating User:OYCH1961/Fishing islets, is somthing making LOL on Wikipedia site since the Wikipedia founder was framed. Let Jimmy Wales alone. Good bye, Larry Sanger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OYCH1961 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are on about. JohnCD (talk) 22:17, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Think they're maybe referring to this. No idea what that's to do with Jimmy Wales though!!--5 albert square (talk) 22:58, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Raleigh Moncrief

John, I have spent more time than necessary on this article. Whether it ia part of the existing situation, as you ask, is quite likely but in my view irrelevant. the article was created by a blocked user, but I have agreed that that was prior to his block. The article is, in my view, speediable under A7; there is no wikipedia quoted under [[WP:MUSIC|wiki music guidelines. the only possible criterion would be number 45 "Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are notable" which is not satisfied in that only one release is stipulated. Please, if you do not agree, feel free to restore the article; it is in any case about a trivial subject, although one in which the complaining editor appears to have an interest. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 18:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I was only passing on a request from WP:REFUND. I will point the requester to this conversation and to WP:DRV. JohnCD (talk) 23:06, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I see re "Unified Theory of Snacking"

Excellent. That should definitely be listed more prominently on the my first article wiki! Or maybeI should better appreciate the meaning of "original research," Hopefully the entry isn't at least listed as vandalism anymore, which is just egregious. Grrbrown (talk) 17:10, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you found WP:NFT helpful. It's a problem to decide how much to make new users read before they start. The general view is that we should put no obstacles in the way, and people wouldn't read advice anyway; I think myself that something on the lines of "This is a project to build an encyclopedia. If you would like to help with that, you are very welcome; but if you have come here to write about yourself, your band, your company, your new idea... this is probably not the site for you" would save a lot of embarrassment for people who wander in under the impression that this is another Myspace or a free advertising site. JohnCD (talk) 21:41, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for taking care of my speedy deletion request. It's kind of embarrassing to mess a page name up twice. AutomaticStrikeout 21:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

No worries - I just did it myself, but I was able to sweep my own mess under the carpet. JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

How do you move a page without creating a redirect? AutomaticStrikeout 21:35, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Only admins can do that, because it involves deleting the source page; but if you tag the redirect with {{db-g7}} or {{db-r3}} someone will delete it soon. Those are easy deletions - no need to think! JohnCD (talk) 21:46, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for explaining. AutomaticStrikeout 21:47, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Aleta St. James

Hi John, wanted to get feedback on the recently created Aleta St. James page I posted, and what the issues were with the information I posted...Aleta is an author and famous for having twins at age 57, and should be listed in Wikipedia... I'm new to wiki and maybe didnt understand some of the parameters, please advise! thanks Rusty10113 (talk) 16:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

It was completely promotional, full of what we call puffery, unsupported glowing adjectives of praise: "internationally renowned... intuitive... world famous... passionate... innovative... " It read like a publisher's blurb or an advertisement. Now that I check, I am not in the least surprised to find that it was largely copied from her own website. An encyclopedia article is quite a different sort of thing: no opinions, only facts, neutrally stated and referenced to reliable sources. More advice on your talk page, but maybe not till tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 17:16, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Intramuro

Recently you blocked Intramuro (talk · contribs) due to username and promotional editing and deleted his talk page advertising. However, he has recently replaced his user talk page with more advertising. Can you please disable his ability to edit his talk page? Thank you. Peacock (talk) 18:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done, thank you. JohnCD (talk) 19:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

Steven Zhang's Fellowship Slideshow

In this issue:

• Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
• Research: The most recent DR data
• Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
• Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
• DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
• Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
• Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

Read the entire first edition of The Olive Branch -->

--The Olive Branch 19:10, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Editor review/TheGeneralUser (2) Your review is required and will be greatly appreciated :)

Hi JohnCD ! I have started my second editor review at Wikipedia:Editor review/TheGeneralUser (2). I will be greatly delighted, thankful and valued to have your review for me regarding my editing and possible candidate for Adminship. As you are a experienced and long term Wikipedian so i have asked for your kind review. Take your time to review my editing and give the best review that you can :). Feel free to ask me any questions you would like to on the review page itself. It will be a great honor to have you review me for which I will truly feel appreciated and helpful! I always work to improve Wikipedia and make it a more better place to be for Everyone :). Regards and Happy Editing! TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:27, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I will get around to it, but it may take some time. JohnCD (talk) 22:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

"Costarrica's..." socks

Hi JohnCD. Good Lord. There's a whole draw full of them! --Shirt58 (talk) 10:45, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of a certain non-notable politician attack page

Thank you.--Shirt58 (talk) 15:40, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

No worries! Third strike and she's out. JohnCD (talk) 17:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Request to reinstate a deleted page/ seek help

Hello

I had created a page for Vikrant Dutta, who is a friend of mine and an author based in India. The page has been deleted by you, on 24th August 2012. Will it be possible for you to tell me why it was done and a possible solution to reinstate the page, so that I do not make any mistakes in the future.

In anticipation

Indro Indrojit (talk) 07:37, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves and their friends; as an encyclopedia, it is selective about subjects for articles. The criterion used is called notability, the general description is at Wikipedia:Notability, and there is more detail at WP:Notability (people), particularly the section WP:AUTHOR. Much of your article was a description of his book, and the notability standard for books is at WP:Notability (books).

To avoid speedy deletion it is enough to make a "credible claim of importance or significance". Some people consider that simply to have published a book is enough for that; I do not myself agree, but if you wish I will restore the article and send it to WP:Articles for deletion, which would start a seven day discussion, to which you would be welcome to contribute, where it would be judged against the notability standard. JohnCD (talk) 14:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Quote

Hewwo

Could you please explain to me what your quote means because if it means what I think it means then I find that offensive and incredibly rude.

Jackie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie55667788 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I presume you mean the "Quote of the month" on my user page (if not, please set me right). It comes from a work called the Instauratio Magna or Great Instauration, about how scientific research should be done, written about 1620 by Francis Bacon, the father of the modern scientific method. The context is:

"And all depends on keeping the eye steadily fixed upon the facts of nature and so receiving their images simply as they are. For God forbid that we should give out a dream of our own imagination for a pattern of the world; rather may he graciously grant to us to write an apocalypse or true vision of the footsteps of the Creator imprinted on his creatures."

He is saying that our view of the world should not be determined by preconceptions, but by the results of observation, as opposed to the medieval approach whereby:

"Men have sought to make a world from their own conception and to draw from their own minds all the material which they employed, but if, instead of doing so, they had consulted experience and observation, they would have the facts and not opinions to reason about, and might have ultimately arrived at the knowledge of the laws which govern the material world."

I am delighted to get some reaction to my quote: I enjoy choosing one each month, but get very little response or feedback and am beginning to feel I do it only for my own amusement. Please tell me what meaning you ascribed to it that you found offensive?

JohnCD (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Technoquat's socks

Thanks for the messages there, not sure why I've been targetted in this case. There's another sock has just appeared on my page, can you block them? Thanks, Valenciano (talk) 20:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done. JohnCD (talk) 20:36, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Couple more, I think. I don't see a SPI for him- is there a better place to post suspects?

• Soungsomoeun (already gone. User page is still up) --Robert Keiden (talk) 05:01, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

• User:鹿目圆 --Robert Keiden (talk) 04:58, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there has been an SPI. Do you have any particular reason to suspect those two of being Technoquat? The first is a troll alright, but doesn't have T's focus on the Help desk and Valenciano; the second looks to me like just a Chinese child, so I have given them a welcome and {{contrib-zh1}}. JohnCD (talk) 15:14, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

...though, checking further, I see they have been blocked as a sock on :zh. JohnCD (talk) 15:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

No strong reason, but for T's penchant for linguistically distinct personas (Afrikaans, Belorus, Scandinavian(?)), and general amusement with non-US characters. The second could be a false positive, but it looked like a mishmash of Japanese and Chinese, ending in an appeal for help from named Wikipedians (a list of users that don't exist on :en.) If 鹿目圆 has prior activity on :zh, I was probably mistaken. --Robert Keiden (talk) 00:54, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

鹿目圆 banned from :zh for sock puppetry. History of edit warring, attack pages. Threatening WP editors and admins: zh-yue:维基百科:维基维新会--Robert Keiden (talk) 01:52, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Those two are certainly worth keeping an eye on, but there are other behavioral differences from T, and I don't think a CU check for sleepers is worth while, because T creates accounts minutes before starting to edit. After meeting T a few times, one does get suspicious of anyone behaving oddly - see, for instance, three items down under "Quote". That is an unusual post as third edit from a new account! JohnCD (talk) 18:07, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, tying all three (or any) of them together would be a stretch. 鹿目圆 looks like a Falun Gong-related SPA anyhow. The Korean, probably just another troll. Thanks! --Robert Keiden (talk) 00:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

User:Voidywordy Already blocked for trolling Help Desk/impersonating admins. I think I've hunted enough "witches" for now. :( --Robert Keiden (talk) 00:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that looks like T again. He's usually detected pretty quickly. JohnCD (talk) 10:43, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation update

Hey all :). We've just deployed another set of features for Page Curation. They include flyouts from the icons in Special:NewPagesFeed, showing who reviewed an article and when, a listing of this in the "info" flyout, and a general re-jigging of the info flyout - we've also fixed the weird bug with page_titles_having_underscores_instead_of_spaces in messages sent to talkpages, and introduced CSD logging! As always, these features will need some work - but any feedback would be most welcome. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 18:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Johnnyrobertsmotors

You recently blocked this user, and it looks like they need a talk page block as well. MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. JohnCD (talk) 23:08, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Request to reinstate a page "Nominal Accounting Software"

You recently deleted the page for "Nominal Accounting Software", I am the owner of this company and can promise it is not a spam site or product but is a real product which is used by thousands of businesses in Australia. In fact we receive a few dozens of very relevant (where the clients the download the software) to our site coming from Wikipedia.

I hope you can reconsider your decision, perhaps we can update the content to be a little better.

Thanks, Uri 140.168.79.1 (talk) 06:51, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

This article was deleted as a result of a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nominal Accounting

Just being a real product is not enough for an encyclopedia article - Wikipedia is not a business or product listing directory. The admission criterion is called Wikipedia:Notability and is is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? Many perfectly worthy products or organizations cannot meet that requirement: that is not at all to their discredit, but it means they are not suitable subjects for an encyclopedia article. See WP:42 for what we mean: do you think you can show that sort of coverage? JohnCD (talk) 23:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Colin Campbell - Actor

Many thanks & apologies to others who have commented, I found it impossible to make head or tail of where/who I should ask my question:

It would seem there is more than 1 actor called Colin Campbell, my father born in 1937 was indeed in a television program called A Family at War where I noticed the deletion, he is still alive but not too well so finding this was upsetting & incorrect. He also had a role in The Leather Boys if that helps to identify him

Thank you again for your assistance & hope I'm writing to the correct person!! I will also try to contact Kuru — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dee1957 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 19:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: User talk pages not deleted

I understand. But I think you are wrong – 1) I want to remove all my information and possible links from Wikimedia projects (and the Internet) 2) Only I contributed to that talk page and one user changing my redirect to softredircet. (Plus your last post.) I think there's nothing to archive then? :) Vinne2 (talk) 21:12, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

If that's what you want, see WP:Courtesy vanishing for what to do. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

speedy deletion of article

Dear JohnCD,

I'm dismayed that my offering general information about a legitimate piece of exercise equipment called The Rack has been considered blatantly promotional and speedily deleted when similar devices exist on the Wiki pages. As a fitness coach for thirty years I had expected to find on Wikipedia some mention of this device alongside, for instance, The Bullworker, The Bosu, The Treadclimber, Total Gym, and informercial exercise program P90X. I didn't, so I wrote something about the equipment I (and other coaches and exercisers) have been using for the last five years. I'm also a fitness columnist and believe I can successfully put a noun against a verb without hype, and in fact think I did so in the article submitted on The Rack. Please help me to make this submission acceptable for Wikipedia.

Christopher Drozd (talk) 05:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Megan Fox article

Hi, JohnCD. Will you help out with this, especially since you have experience with one of these users? I've contacted three editors about this. One proclaimed that he didn't have enough information to help out (even though it's confirmed by the sources that Fox had not been fired yet, and it is obvious that my objection to the second user's editing is justified). And the other two have yet to respond. 217.147.94.149 (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, you just missed me last night - I live in UTC+1. The situation seem to have settled down OK? JohnCD (talk) 23:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

The second part of the problem has been taken care of. But, currently, not the first, which I've taken to the article talk page. 94.76.201.77 (talk) 17:35, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

...i might add

JohnCD,

After glancing at another's comment on your talk page regarding notability...

...significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people independent of the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about??...

..I wanted to point out that I had indeed listed a number of articles and a television news story as third party references. While the .pdf and the .mp4 files are located on the product site (as one might expect) the sources are independent of the product in question. The time sensitive nature of such media outlets makes finding archived stories unlikely.

Again, I'd like you to help me make this submission acceptable for Wikipedia.

Christopher Drozd (talk) 05:26, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Reply tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 00:28, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I have taken some time to reply on this, because I am having a hard time putting my finger on the reason why I still think this has more the flavour of an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. It reads as a list of features from a product catalogue, rather than a discussion about the device, and I feel the references you list are the sort you get by sending review copies out, rather than genuine independent interest. (One detail: I would leave out the ® symbol, or at most use it once - that definitely adds to the "ad" feeling).

The other articles you mention are not much better, but because we know that many of the 4 million articles are substandard, What about that other article? is not an argument that is accepted - each is considered on its merits. Standards have probably risen over time, and certainly the ever-increasing flood of spammers has made us more sensitive about advertising. As your first version was definitely promotional in tone, that means that any revision will get viewed with suspicion.

However, it is good enough that I am not prepared to say a final no. (Even if I did, there is an avenue of appeal at WP:Deletion review). I have restored the article to your sandbox; when you are ready, I will move it into the main encyclopedia and send it to WP:Articles for deletion to get the community's view. That starts a debate, normally lasting seven days, to which anyone (including you) can contribute, and at the end an uninvolved administrator will decide what to do, based not on a count of heads but on the strength of the arguments put forward in terms of Wikipedia's policies. That will bring more people to look at the article, some of whom may well join in and help to improve it.

JohnCD (talk) 23:48, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For all of your great work today, especially with CSD and AIV! Electric Catfish 17:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. One can sure tell when it's back-to-school in the US! JohnCD (talk) 17:22, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Logo - fair use exception

I just tried to upload the CARTA (Center for Academic Research and Academic Training in Anthropogeny) logo using the fair use rationale. It is a low resolution image, as requested, and I filled in all of the questions posed on the File Upload Wizard; however, after submitting the file, the file name appears on the CARTA page, instead of the image. Any idea what I did wrong? Thanks for your help.

Benirschke-Perkins (talk) 18:38, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed - you hadn't typed the right file name in the article, that's all. You used the old name, but the name of the one you just uploaded was different. JohnCD (talk) 19:03, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Half-hearted block

I realised I was trying to block the article rather than the user, missed that I'd left the notice. When I got to the talk page, the user had responded positively to another editor's user name comments, so I dropped it, Thanks for clearing up Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

The idea of blocking articles opens up interesting possibilities... and I can think of some users who could do with salting! JohnCD (talk) 21:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Logo - fair use exception

Thanks for your help. Very pleased with the way the CARTA logo looks on the page and happy to meet the Wikipedia requirements. All's well that ends well.

Benirschke-Perkins (talk) 21:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Excellent! JohnCD (talk) 21:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Online?

Hi John are you still online? Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, dealt with now. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:52, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Report of the Secretary-General's Panel of Experts on Accountability in Sri Lanka

I have brought this a week ago to ANI and on the advice of an Admin, one of the editors has taken this issue to the DRN and it was resolved. But User:Himesh84 is constantly pushing his Original Research as a single person. Since you have already involved in the Sri Lanka related issues on defense.lk and Lies Agreed Upon, I need your involvement how to tackle this user who is so adamant to listen others and pushing his Original Research aggressively without heeding the Wikipedia guidelines.Sudar123 (talk) 09:56, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I have commented at the ANI discussion. JohnCD (talk) 22:45, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I won't get involved in edit wars in future. I thought DRN resolutions are binding.Sudar123 (talk) 01:07, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I added following text to the talk page. If you feel interested you can add a comment

This Wikipedia article is a great insult to the Sri Lanka. Sri Lankan government officially rejected this report. It is clearly linked by Obi2canibe in his edits. UNHRC is the authorized entity and country's final official responses are come to the UNHRC. UNHRC officially asked to implement LLRC recommendations(refereed in my edits). After UNHRC officially selected and urged to implement LLRC implementations , process recommended in this report has no value. But when someone reading this article that person will definitely feel lot of countries currently supporting the implementation method specified in this report. It is completely wrong. Now they officially supporting and asking to implement LLRC recommendations. This Wikipedia page tries to give a completely wrong bad impression about Sri Lanka. People (Obi2canibe) who likes Tamil Ealam (Tamil Ealam is a name proposed for the separated country within Sri Lanka) trying to use this rejected report(by Sri Lanka and UNHRC) to create bad impression on Sri Lanka. That's why current recognition to this report is highly important. I tried my best to clarify UNHRC urges to implement LLRC implementations even after a voting session in UNHRC. So UNSG's implementations don't have any further recognition by international community who deals with Human Right violations. But Wikipedia (admin JohnCD) didn't agree on my points and asked not to come with my version. Wikipedia didn't accept that the UNHRC accepted LLRC recommendations overItalic text UNSG's recommendations even Sri Lanka received letter from UNHRC asking to implement LLRC recommendations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Report_of_the_Secretary-General.27s_Panel_of_Experts_on_Accountability_in_Sri_Lanka --Himesh84 (talk) 08:55, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Also replied to the Administrators Notice board. --Himesh84 (talk) 10:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I added following things to the discussion Wikipedia is a encyclopedia. Wikipedia has to failed built a system so that it says it is. They have built a system which can gathered most number of users and way to get most number of hits. This report criticize Sri Lankan court system and law. But UNHRC asked to implemented LLRC which based on local court system. It is officially asked by a letter. UNHRC even didn't bothered to consider tabling UNSG's implementations. But your Wikipedia page showing a completely wrong picture to the world. Please admit that no one talk about this outdated report except Tamil Diaspora and Wikipedia company ( I don't know who funded this company). Even the person who created this report (UN secretary) now asking to implement LLRC recommendation. http://www.thesundayleader.lk/. I am not asking why Tamil diaspora not accepting LLRC. But why Wikipedia company not accepting LLRC over UNSG's report while Bank ki Moon , the person who created UNSG's report accepted LLRC is the correct approach ? I am not changing my position since all the countries and even UNSG's author had changed their positions and accepted LLRC recommendations are the correct approach. But your site trying to mislead readers. Please revisit your policies and try to implement a good policies to become encyclopedia over most popular view. If it is not possible at least drop the claim Wikipedia is a encyclopedia to prevent readers getting mislead --Himesh84 (talk) 16:05, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I am watching the ANI discussion, and will comment there if there is anything new to say. You do not need to repeat everything here. JohnCD (talk) 16:53, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

One of those days

Lot of hoaxes today - plus one possible I've AfDed Vientiane Metro. Might be interesting... Peridon (talk) 14:00, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll look at it. Apart from the usual spammers, today mostly seems to have been 11-year-olds anxious to tell the world about their puppies. One of them had the ambition to open a restaurant, which is more constructive than the usual wish to win a reality show and be famous. Have you met the Tunkhannock hoaxer? IPs geolocating to that Pennsylvania town who put in, on talk pages, elaborate scientific hoax articles about non-existent species. As they are on talk pages they get swiftly G8-ed, but today 74.212.45.19 (talk) was actually putting misinformation in articles. The range seems too wide for a rangeblock, unfortunately. JohnCD (talk) 14:49, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Added db-hoax to your prodded hay ride. Worth a try... Peridon (talk) 17:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Erique Dial

I do not understand why I can not have a Wikapedia Page on myself ? I have worked with Vaughan Mason\Raze on several songs produced "All 4 Love" - Raze a top 30 hit on the UK Pop Chart.Produced and written with notable artist such as Imagination, The Adventures Of Stevie V, Martha Wash amongst others. So why am I not eligible to have a page. I can understand the Sunshine Records article some what. I gave that interview about myself. My Discography speaks for itself. Now Mr John CD deletes my page calling it a resume..? No it's an account of my accomplishments as a Producer/Writer/Keyboardist in black & white. All my details are in Discogs.com referring to my claims so I don't understand your critical remarks. I see other people's page showing there birth day schooling etc etc musical chronological path to the present so I really disagree with you very strongly.

sheff laid

Erique Dial — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheff laid (talk • contribs) 15:54, 17 September 2012‎

If you look at the deletion log you'll see I didn't say that. I deleted your first version, because it was a copyright violation. But Wikipedia isn't a Myspace/Facebook type site for people to write about themselves - that is strongly discouraged for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU and Wikipedia:Autobiography. More advice on your talk page tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 22:18, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Please do not patronise me

[2] The article remains unsatisfactory, although sadly now immune from CSD. George Ponderevo (talk) 11:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I did not intend to patronise. My message made clear that I was not criticising your tag - the article was improved after you tagged it. I apologise for the "You may wish to review... " bit - I was using a script which automates the clerical work of declining speedies, and omitted to uncheck the box marked "Use newbie message". No, the article is not yet satisfactory - I have BLP-proded it and pointed the author to WP:YFA, WP:CITE and WP:PROF. When you add a speedy notification to a previously empty talk page like that, it is helpful to precede it with {{welcome}} or another welcome message, to give the new user some clues on how to do better. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

CIR

I actually have a good deal of sympathy with an editor who really seems not to understand what is written to him. Perhaps I should have tried harder to explain things in simple language, but it is difficult, and I'm not sure it would have helped anyway. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I too sympathise with someone who shows such enthusiasm, but there comes a point where it is clear that trying to explain is simply a time-sink and nothing useful is going to result. I moved his last messages to the bottom and explained that that is where new messages go, to keep things in order, and he replied thanking me at the top. Sigh. JohnCD (talk) 09:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for helping, I can only agree with the above. I'm always prepared to help if asked, but here I think it would mean writing the article myself, one step too far Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:12, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

A bit of a tangent: who was this that you're talking about (if you don't mind me asking)? Had they posted on/been invited to the Teahouse? I'm curious because the questions page on the Teahouse has a top-posting method for new questions, as opposed to the standard Wikipedia bottom-posting. While survey says that new users prefer it, it's gotten some pushback due to fears that they'll think the rest of Wikipedia is like that, and try to use the top-posting on other pages. We've never really had even anecdotal evidence for this, but it sounds like this could be a case of it? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:28, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

See here. Interesting point but no, he hasn't been, or been invited to the teahouse. JohnCD (talk) 13:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm, well, thanks anyway. (That last message he posted to the top of his page is a bit of a facepalm...) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:41, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

User:Volodyka/Гностическое христианство

hello! this was not article, this was a sandbox version of article, how i can return this?Volodyka (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Restored, but please read WP:UP#COPIES. JohnCD (talk) 13:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello

I read your reply and firstly let me thank you for the assistance and information you provided. I apologise then in turn for editing the page since it isn't deemed appropriate and understand the fact of why a page can not be created for it. I do possess one last question however, if it comes into use and eventually reaches a status on other sites providing information and such over it, would it then be subject to be allowed to translate pages on Wikipedia into it? I'm also planning on creating a website for it soon, and am looking for ways to expose it to readers. Basically I'm asking what would it exactly take for it to be subject to be used for translating texts?

My goal on the language was to create something that linguist and those curious would enjoy reading and learning since it possess simple grammar and pronunciations and could be used to understand Latin and other romance languages. If there is no chance it could be used in the future for Wikipedia then I will understand, so no worries in that regard. Just knowing the use of Wikipedia and enjoying articles on 'international languages' that reside in it gave me the idea of allowing use of mine in the site. So that is my reasoning, again I thank you for your assistance and will check up on the links, and am willing to answer any questions you may have.

Sincerely, Kartovskiy

Kartovskiy (talk) 17:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

I am not quite sure what you are asking. If it is permission to translate material from Wikipedia into your new language, that is not a problem: Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA license allows any reader to copy, translate or otherwise modify, and re-use material, subject only to giving attribution (saying where the material came from), saying that it has been modifed, and imposing the same conditions on anyone who copies from you. This is explained at WP:Copyrights#Reusers' rights and obligations. If you were asking something more than that, leave a note below here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Actually that was what I was asking for, my apologies if I didn't make it exactly clear. So if I were to translate material then in Wikipedia, where exactly would I save the translated page then if I may ask? Kartovskiy (talk) 23:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC) Wanted to make sure you were alerted I had replied.

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 15:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frances Amey

Good catch. Too Soon. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 23:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Travi$ Scott

109.150.226.213 (talk) 16:55, 20 September 2012 (UTC)I did not make this page however you have deleted it, why? The page is Travi$ Scott.

I deleted it because, half an hour after it was created, the whole content was "Jacques Webster also known as Travis Scott is an American artist/producer from Houston Texas." An article that does not say enough about its subject to give a credible claim of significance or importance may be speedily deleted. There is no objection to anybody creating an article that does give some idea why he is important or significant, though if it is to be kept it will need references showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. JohnCD (talk) 20:52, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Unblocked

Pls unblocked my Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incredible_Antivirus, to Continue more editing in it.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.187.58 (talk) 18:04, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Your user account, User IncredibleAntivirus (talk) will not be unblocked, because we do not allow username that are names of organizations. You can set up a new account that will be only for you as an individual, but if all you want to do is write about your product, please first read WP:Conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not here to provide free advertising or promotion. Any article about your antivirus product would need to establish WP:Notability references showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. JohnCD (talk) 09:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Urgent

hello would you please delete http://www.wikigrain.org/?req=Setareh+Diba this page ..i'll appreciate it regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.152.195.92 (talk) 10:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

That is not a Wikipedia page - Wikipedia's article was deleted in January, but Wikigrain is a "mirror site" which copies articles from Wikipedia, as they are allowed to do by Wikipedia's license. We do not control Wikigrain - you will have to contact them direct. I see they have a feedback form at http://www.wikigrain.org/feedback.php. JohnCD (talk) 10:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Page Curation newsletter

Hey JohnCD. This will be, if not our final newsletter, one of the final ones :). After months of churning away at this project, our final version (apart from a few tweaks and bugfixes) is now live. Changes between this and the last release include deletion tag logging, a centralised log, and fixes to things like edit summaries.

Hopefully you like what we've done with the place; suggestions for future work on it, complaints and bugs to the usual address :). We'll be holding a couple of office hours sessions, which I hope you'll all attend. Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:12, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Lia Ali

Hi John, hope all is well. You might have remembered our discussion. I have been coaching Lia Ali User:Mdupont/Lia_Ali, she just mailed me that she will be in the Oct 2012 edition of American Art Collector. You can verify this with a site search as well, (site:www.americanartcollector.com "lia ali"), does that justify her to be put back on the main article space and make her notable? thanks mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 06:23, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't see her there yet, but the Oct edition isn't on the website - "current issue" shows September, and the name doesn't come up in a search. In any case, the advice at User talk:JohnCD/Archive 20#Lia Ali still applies - you need fewer images so it doesn't look like a gallery, text that says why she is important, and references that show substantial independent comment about her. See WP:ARTIST and WP:42. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 23:13, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

If you run that query, you get "Lia Ali is an artist born · in Sofia, Bulgaria. She · graduated at the National · Academy of Arts where she · learned techniques such as · stained glass, printmaking," go to http://www.americanartcollector.com/vip/download.php you get the pdf, on page 75 you will find her. Of course the article needs more work, but the question is if it is worthwhile to do that work if it will be deleted again, so I am just trying to help this young artist, who I don't know, to find her way in the world. I told her she needs references, now she has one reference, is this good enough?, or do you need more. I can provide the copy of the page 75 from American Art collector if you like, it is not mine so I cannot publish it. thanks mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 11:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Right, I've seen it. In my opinion, you could write an article based on those sources that would be good enough to pass WP:CSD#A7, so would not be speedy-deleted, but it would not survive an AfD. See, for example, this draft, which appears amply referenced, but attracted these comments from the admin who deleted it as a re-creation of one previously deleted at AfD, and is not doing well at Deletion review. I know that person is in a different field, but the point is that depth of comment is more important than number of references. You have a number of references for Lia Ali but, as I said before, similarity of wording suggests that they are at least partly press-release based. People are becoming aware that with the spread of information on the internet someone in the sort of field where it is normal to self-publicize by giving interviews and putting out press releases can build up an impressive-looking reference list without being really notable, and they are starting to pay more attention to the words significant and independent in the WP:GNG. Helping this young artist "to find her way in the world" sounds as if this may be a case of WP:UPANDCOMING. WP:ARTIST is quite a demanding standard.

That's my opinion, but I am not Authority. You could try building the best article you can and submitting it to WP:AFC by clicking "Submit" at the top of the draft. JohnCD (talk) 22:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

THanks john, we will work on that James Michael DuPont (talk) 06:04, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much

Still, I can't see how any of that had anything to do with our project. Regards, --Elitre (talk) 09:44, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what that "Share your knowledge" bit of the WikiProject is about, but it looks as though he took it as an invitation to send in his autobiography. JohnCD (talk) 09:57, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Abdolreza Razmjoo

hi,What should I do to restore my article,thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farkoh (talk • contribs) 15:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

That is no better. If you want the article restored, you must go back to WP:Deletion review, but in my opinion you will be wasting your time. If, after you have put in so much effort, you have not succeeded in showing that he is notable to Wikipedia's standard, see WP:MUSICBIO, it is time to accept that he is not, and give up. JohnCD (talk) 23:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Hi bruv hows it going? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie55667788 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

You never told me what you found offensive about my userpage Quote of the Month. JohnCD (talk) 23:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Meta marketing

Hello, I've had this page under watch for a few days. I tagged it for PROD with the reason original research / essay, which the author declined. While it's been edited a bit, still appears to be an essay and doesn't seem to be that notable. Should I send it to AFD? Cheers, Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 21:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Off-the-cuff answer: yes. I don't even agree with the first sentence. But I'd like to think about it - more considered reply tomorrow. One thing to do is a web search to see, is this a term in general use, with an agreed, established meaning, so that a plausible, sourced article could be made? or is it a neologism, a buzzword with no established meaning, or (worse still) somebody's proprietary term they are trying to push? No time to do that tonight. JohnCD (talk) 23:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I can wait. It doesn't seem to be used that much. Seems recently coined. Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 23:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Requesting creation protection for John tabios, John Tabios

Johntabios (talk, contribs) has repeatedly recreated the apparent test/autobiography articles John tabios and John Tabios over the past 24 hours, each time resulting in speedy deletion. Up to 9 so far. A short term WP:SALT may be in order until things cool down. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 22:38, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done for a week for small-t, large-T already done by Scientizzle. JohnCD (talk) 22:52, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Help... I'm Lost!

Hi. I have a Wiki page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Weinblatt. I just noticed that there are two caveats or warnings at the top of the page. One says," This article may need to be wikified." The other says, " This article is an orphan." I'm pretty disabled now due to chronic severe spinal pain. That and my pain medication make it difficult to focus on detail-oriented work. I examined the references for these issues and I'm fairly confused (ask my wife). So, I was wondering if you could help. It would be a shame to lose a page that validates my lifetime professional existence because I'm currently finding it difficult to follow intricate rules. Could you provide any assistance in making my page more relevant, better linked or just more... "wikified?" I devoted 30 years to building an interesting and (hopefully) valued career. I'm starting to find my way as a published author, since I am now forced to spend the rest of my life horizontal. But I'm at a loss on how to keep Wikipedia happy about my page. Anything you can do to help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chuck Weinblatt csw2@bex.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cweinbl (talk • contribs) 21:35, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, Chuck, you won't ever be lost. Have made a quick start. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:52, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Mr Weinblatt, I am sorry that you are in poor health, but you don't need to worry about those notices. They are what is called "maintenance templates", which put the article on various lists encouraging users to come and improve them. I see the "orphan" tag has already been removed by someone who has arranged some incoming links, and I expect someone will do some "wikifying" (linking the article to other articles) soon.

You do not need to do anything - in fact, you should not do anything. I must emphasise that this is not "your page" - it is Wikipedia's article about you, others can and will edit it, and you should not be editing it yourself. I have sorted out the book reference section and done some trimming, including removing what we call "puffery" - words like "State of the art" and "successful". Wikipedia is extremely resistant to anything that looks like promotion, and an encyclopedia article is not a CV.

Other people may well make further changes. If you want to have your own page where you can list all your achievements, there are sites like Myspace, Facebook and LinkedIn available for that, but (although we do not explain it as well as we might to new users) Wikipedia is quite different. It is a project to build a neutral, factual encyclopedia, and people are strongly discouraged from editing their own articles, for reasons explained at:

• Wikipedia:Autobiography
• Wikipedia:Conflict of interest (including Wikipedia's Law of Unintended Consequences)
• Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest

If the article contains factual inaccuracies, you may correct them, but for anything else you should confine yourself to making suggestions on the article talk page. Otherwise, the article may attract {{autobiography}} or {{coi}} tags. My advice is, don't worry about Wikipedia, enjoy your career as an author, and use Facebook or your blog to say the things you want to say about yourself. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:12, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for your suggestions on A7 and attack pages tags. Mediran talk|contribs 09:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. It is always a pleasure to encourage and advise new NPP-ers. JohnCD (talk) 14:15, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For all of the great work that you do here on a daily basis! --v/r Electric Catfish (talk) 16:25, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you! The mop is certainly the right emblem, and I do sometimes feel like Dame Partington, so it's nice to be appreciated. JohnCD (talk) 23:59, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

List of Andre's Show's & Channel's

I've just had a request to delete and salt. I agree with that, but I've deleted it twice already. Salting when one is the only admin acting on it doesn't look good, Any chance of having a look? Peridon (talk) 16:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Good idea to get a second pair of eyes, but it's a clear A7. I'll point him to Myspace or Wikia. JohnCD (talk) 16:55, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Ta muchly. Peridon (talk) 17:04, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. Look what I've just found: User talk:AJGUY01 (as opposed to AJGUY00). Do you think it worth blocking 00 as a block-evading sock? I've removed a copy of the article from 00's talk page as inappropriate (and as there's one on the user page anyway...). Peridon (talk) 18:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, quack. 00 created 11 days after 01 was blocked, same focus on made-up shows. I'm surprised no-one noticed. I said I would point him to Myspace and Wikia, so I have done that along with a block notice. JohnCD (talk) 22:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! LegoK^ontribsT^alkM 00:05, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

The show's not over yet, folks... He tried again. User talk:ANDRE02 Peridon (talk) 10:30, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear. That was created before the last one was blocked. I hope this isn't going to be another of the ones with a new throwaway account every day. If it goes on, we may need to do an SPI and ask for checkuser to see whether there is a static IP we can block; but perhaps he'll get bored soon. At least we haven't had "Costa Rica's Next Top Model" for a few days now. JohnCD (talk) 10:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

you are in violation of wp:consensus

No coherent reason has been explained to me. Perhaps you would like to start.

I don't disagree with policy. Policy was discussed and the outcome was to keep the picture. Policy disagrees with your actions. Unfortunately, you have chosen to ignore policy. This is a violation of wp:consensus.

Simply repeating "I have explained it before, policy says so", does not count as either an argument or an explanation. Every claim that has been made to back up the deletion has been demonstrated to be unequivocably false. In most cases, the perpetrator admitted to not even having enough of a working knowledge of cricket to be in a position to make an informed judgement. How is your knowledge of cricket? Are you able to make an informed judgement in this case? Py0alb (talk) 15:31, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

All that I did here was delete, as is normal, the talk page of a deleted file and, since I saw that you wanted to continue the argument, point you to WP:Deletion review as the right place to do that. However, I will have a try to explain again the policy reason why the actual image was deleted. Because Wikipedia wants to be a free-content encyclopedia, free images are greatly preferred and non-free content like copyrighted images is permitted only under the very restrictive conditions listed at WP:NFCC. Those include WP:NFCC#1: "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose" (my emphasis). Since you, or anyone, could take a picture of an indoor cricket match and upload it under a free license, this copyrighted image fails NFCC#1. If you do not agree with that, WP:Deletion review is the place to continue the argument. JohnCD (talk) 17:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi John. FYI, this story now continues at WP:ANI. De728631 (talk) 17:24, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Ampricot page deletion

Hello Dear John,

I'm Abdelrahman Omran, the author of "Ampricot" (the product, the website, the intellectual property) and copyright holder. I've tried to be as Neutral as I can in writing down this brief description of the product, and I think I've reached that acceptable limit of compatibility with wikipedia policies. But unfortunately it has been deleted three times without a choice to correct the wrong point & re-publish. The product itself is licensed under "MIT", and the text description under "Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License". Can you please tell me what should I do to make that post published & not deleted again?

Sincerely Regards, Abdelrahman Omran, Omranic (talk) 12:42, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I will answer on your talk page later today. JohnCD (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

dear jhon

hi wht is wrong between in my page can u explain and wht is reason u deleted my page can u explain ha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saiyed.mohammad.faizan (talk • contribs) 16:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I explained on your talk page - it was copied from another website. Wikipedia cannot accept copied material, because it would be a violation of the author's copyright - see Wikipedia:Copy-paste. JohnCD (talk) 15:40, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Hoax

Hi, the information on the article is true, and no hoax. The reason he is not on the island website is because he is a producer for island records, not an artist. It would be good if it could stay but if he does not qualify then I understand. Thanks. --Joie Manda 00:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC)Joie Manda — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoieManda (talk • contribs)

Then why did you try to add him to List of current Island Records artists? JohnCD (talk) 01:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Lama Gelek Gyamtso, deleted page

Hello John, thank you for your message. The person I would like to make a page on is a notable person in Tibetan Buddhism. I think that I was noted for deletion as I as a first "test" wrote on the page that there would come information on him, Lama Gelek on the page. That is when the person who aimed it for deletion did it, not taking notice on when that was written. It all occurred less then an hour after I started to edit the page. Now it is hard for people without special interest in Tibetan Buddhism to verify a person like this, most often they are not even found on the internet so one can not simply go to see how many articles one can find and so on. The Tibetan culture is a world in itself and a lot of what is published there and a lot of work that is done is not in English and is not of the same kind as in the west. But this does not mean the interest for or the validity of a person from Tibetan Buddhism can not be great, apart from those who are well known in the west. Not everyone who read Wikipedia are from the western English speaking countries. Lama Gelek is part of a long tradition inside Dzogchen and a link in a line of teachers, without him the overall understanding of that lineage is not possible. Tulku Yeshe Trögyal (talk) 17:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC) Thank you very much John, I will try to learn how to do this using the Article wizard and the Tutorial, hope to get something together in awhile. Thanks for your help. Tulku Yeshe Trögyal (talk) 18:34, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

List of current Island Records artists

Hoobastank is no longer with Island records because they decided to release the album independently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FireDragonValo (talk • contribs) 22:56, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That's OK, I wasn't criticising your edits, I was just telling you that I had to undo them in the course of reverting a whole string of hoax/vandalism, so that you will have to make them again. JohnCD (talk) 23:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Jakob Tordsen Deleted Page

Please restore my page there are a lot of scouts looking at Jakob and I put a lot of factual information about the young man it wAnt spam and it is important to the young mans career, if you could please just restore it so I could finish writing all of my information on it that would be great that way you can see everything that we still have yet to Type about this great young man. This isn't faking anything, or copying anything so I would really appreciate it if you could put my page back up so I can continue improving it. Thanks. :) Also please note that isn't just a player listing himself to help promote himself it is just a factual site on a young player. His parents as well as his friends and other family are very excited that he is becoming so well known, a website for young ayers is gathering information so he can be added to that so I thought I would also make this page to help raise awareness of the rising star. I am not talking him up, I am simply stating facts about the young man which does not violate any of your rules so under code rule i should be obliged to have my page returned to me. Lastly, you say he must be notable player, well he plays for an AAU team that is being sponsored by NIKE I would say that's pretty much notable wouldn't you? He has played many tournaments nationwide as an eith grader on an AAU team that is an amazing achievement and all of these things should be noted for everyone to see. Crunchy pie (talk) 22:19, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely not. Wikipedia is not for "raising awareness", we call that promotion. An encyclopedia only covers people who have already arrived, not the up and coming - read WP:NBASKETBALL for what a basketball player needs to have achieved before having an article.

What you wrote was a blatant advertisement, full of glowing adjectives: "strong first baseman... total power hitter... a powerhouse running back... strong middle linebacker... extremely fast... " Anything like that is deleted at sight.You want to puff your young man for talent scouts - good luck to you and him, but an encyclopedia is not the place to do it. Put him in the young players' website, that sounds the right place. JohnCD (talk) 22:50, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Mangalore International Airport

Thanks for sorting out this page, I had thought a simple copy paste would do since the destination page was also relating to the same article and not some other article, didn't realise that contribution history would be lost. Meanwhile I do wish to tell you that even the main article page for Mangalore International Airport was copy pasted from Mangalore Airport (India), and so will require the same treatment from you ie blanking/pasting to retain contribution history.--PremKudva^Talk 10:04, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done - thanks for pointing that out. JohnCD (talk) 10:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to you John:) Meanwhile please point me to your {{done}} template? And others like that, I might want to use those too:)--PremKudva^Talk 11:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

There is a useful list under "See also" at Template:Done. JohnCD (talk) 11:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you --PremKudva^Talk 11:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! JohnCD (talk) 11:39, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Dkjhbrewfhyjegfuygf

He's up to his same problematic editing patterns again. 31.193.133.169 (talk) 00:33, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. The time before last I told him his next block might be indef; now it is. JohnCD (talk) 09:21, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Vibha Bakshi

Hi,

I want to create again vibha bakshi page. So can i continue. I cant again make his husband profile. But i want to create vibha bakshi profile. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashikalasalunkhe (talk • contribs) 09:22, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 09:59, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for deleting the - completely my own mistake - "Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/This account".--Shirt58 (talk) 11:46, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Attack pages

Ok, thanks

Good Luck!

--Mega-buses (talk) 15:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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thanks! Theopolisme 22:56, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Dhirubhai Patel

He's done it again two more times, FYI. CarolMooreDC 18:22, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

(Sigh... ) OK, indef-blocked. He had been warned. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 19:13, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your actions and your note. An article in desperate need of protection and deep reversions is Kai Forbath. It's undergoing massive IP attack. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 21:08, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I've semi-protected for 24 hours, but I don't have time to do any more tonight. I have asked JNW (talk), who was active there, to revert to whatever version he thinks sensible. JohnCD (talk) 21:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

The Kai Forbath page had someone putting erraneous and false (biased) data on it. Someone also REMOVED the information that he is now a player for the Washington Redskins (true). I was trying to correct it before it was locked (good call!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamfrito (talk • contribs) 21:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism has been removed and the recent news restored, with a reference. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 21:34, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Excellent. I was just about to ask our friend above if he had a reliable source. JohnCD (talk) 21:39, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page

WhaYYYYYYYYYa!!!! Ohherrodare (talk) 22:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I gave a link on your talk page to the reason: Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. JohnCD (talk) 22:46, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Documentary source not in public domain

Hi John. I would be very grateful of any advice you could give on the matter bring discussed at Talk:Murder of Raymond Codling. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I have commented there. JohnCD (talk) 09:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have also added a comment. It seems unfortunate. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

deletion of Anderson Community Schools Hall of Fame

I recently published (maybe prematurely?) a page that I wanted to develop for the ACS Hall of Fame celebration that has recently happening annually in our community to honor people from Madison County who have made significant contributions to the community and beyond. Many of these individuals are people who have gone on to become celebrities in their own right, and I intend to link their wiki pages to this page, and reference their accomplishments. I had not finished adding to this page, and I am sure this is why it was deleted.

I have some of the content still in my sandbox, but I was much more pleased with the phrasing I used on this page that was deleted...

Would it be possible to undelete this page, knowing that I would be adding relevant content to show why this would be an appropriate encyclopedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawohlberg (talk • contribs) 15:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Page userfied, but I greatly doubt whether this is notable - advice on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 22:34, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Secretariat for Human Rights

Hi. I'm not sure if you have noticed the reply on my talk page, so I shall invite you to read it here: User_talk:Krystoffer#Secretariat for Human Rights. May you help me do the move? I'm sorry if you have read it already. And thank you for the attention. Regards, --Krystoffer (talk) 17:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the help! I'll do it the right way next time. Regards! --Krystoffer (talk) 21:01, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

deletion of article

Hi John

You deleted an article on Lisa Gervasoni without giving my an opportunity to respond. I am concerned that is was deleted for being an advertisement when the person involved is a government employee who has achieved a lot for our community and as been recognised by her inclusion on an honour roll for women. I believe this passes the notable test and definitely cannot be seen as an advertisement. Taraallab (talk) 23:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

You were notified on 1 October that the article had been proposed for deletion, and it was not deleted until 8 October. However, articles deleted by PROD are automatically restored on request, so I have undeleted it; but I will notify users Legoktm (talk) and Qworty (talk), who proposed it, and who may choose to nominate it at WP:Articles for deletion, which would start a debate lasting seven days to which you would be welcome to contribute. I will try to give some advice on your talk page tomorrow, but meantime look at WP:42, WP:Bombardment and WP:Wikipuffery. JohnCD (talk) 23:39, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Ruben Canelo

Dear Sir, Regarding the deletion of the page Lord Professor Ruben Canelo of Studley. I would like to stress that the Lord title is from a Lordship of the minor of Studley. Professor Canelo got the right to use this title according to the papers sent to him from the company. I would ask you please to give me the chance to edit this and would ask you please to send me some advices regarding how to improve this page making it feseable to remain in the Wikipedia,

Yours Sincerely

Stnmrtn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stnmrtn (talk • contribs) 23:36, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

By Wikipedia's WP:Verifiability policy, any claim like that must be referenced to a reliable, published source. An article about Prof. Canelo was deleted last week after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruben Canelo, so any new article would have to overcome the problems identified there, and would need permission from user Mr. Stradivarius (talk), the administrator who closed the discussion, or failing that from WP:Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 00:05, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Pardon me for butting in here, but I notice you said at User talk:Stnmrtn that "Professor Canelo is certainly notable enough to have an article". That was actually not the consensus at the AfD discussion. The consensus appeared to be that he did not meet WP:PROF. The "Lord" title was a separate issue and did not appear to weigh significantly in people's "delete" arguments. --MelanieN (talk) 02:33, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that was an off-the-cuff, and evidently optimistic, assessment made before I had read the AfD and the more considered views of those who had researched the subject. JohnCD (talk) 09:39, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Himesh84

I'm sorry to bother you with this but you may recall User:Himesh84 from the dispute on this article. Another dispute has arisen between Himesh84 and myself, this time on Ethnic conflict in Sri Lanka. Another user and myself have placed some tags at the top of the article and I provided an explanation for the tags on the talk page. Himesh84 has taken to remove the tags, stating he is "happy about current content". He has also asked me to "pin point" the problems. I don't believe the tags (Neutrality, Lack of references, Original research) requires pin point explanation.

According to WP:TAGGING I should now take this to dispute resolution but given Himesh84's past behaviour on DRN and ANI I don't want to waste my and other editors' time. I would appreciate your advice.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 11:32, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to be slow to respond. I'm afraid you will have to go back to DRN and try to get some uninvolved editors interested. If it can't be sorted out there and has to go back to ANI, I think topic bans will have to start being applied. JohnCD (talk) 23:19, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I have started a DRN case.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 15:11, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Attack page?

Hello, John. I was about to decline the speedy deletion of User:Linford777, when I saw you had deleted it. I didn't see anything that made it an attack page, and I wonder if you could let me know why you decided it was one. Have I missed some allusion? JamesBWatson (talk) 16:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Ignore that. I have now seen the talk page, and in that context the deletion makes perfect sense. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:34, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, when MarcoAurelio tagged the user page, his edit summary said "User comes here from commons where this user uploaded a photo of the subject to mock him (all deleted now)." Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 16:36, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Question about CSD

Hi there. I know you've deleted pages I've tagged before, so I thought I'd ask you about this article: Social media strategy class. It seems like it should fall under a speedy criterium, since it's basically just a paper for a class, but none of them seem to apply. Do you have an advice on how to deal with it? Thanks. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 22:32, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

No, it fails WP:NOT in all sorts of ways, but it isn't speediable. Some people might try WP:CSD#G2 test page in an WP:IAR sort of way, but I think stretching the speedy criteria is a slippery slope. Someone has PRODded it, and that's the right course. JohnCD (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay great. That lines up with my concerns pretty closely, as I'd considered dual-tagging it with G2/A7 (non-notable, uh, homework?), but didn't think that was quite right. Thanks for the info. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 22:46, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Page Curation newsletter - closing up!

Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:18, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello

Just wondering how ur doing init. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie55667788 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Email

I've replied to your email. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:48, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Nocebo (Stam1na album)

I thought it was a band. Can't read, can I? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for the info!! FatBaker (talk) 22:39, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Bridgemary Kiss

Hey, sorry to say, but I've got to decline your PROD of this page; the page had a previous PROD here that was contested here. Thanks, Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 23:15, 18 October 2012 (UTC).

No worries - you're right, of course. There wasn't an oldprod on the talk page, but I should have looked right back through the history. JohnCD (talk) 23:32, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Haha at least I didn't delete it this time without noticing the old PROD, I did that to some article a couple three weeks ago. Anyway, having taken a look I would say it's a slam dunk for AfD based on "Bridgemary Kiss" band -Wikipedia, if you're so inclined. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 23:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I'll get to it tomorrow. I came on them because I PROD-deleted their successors, Bones Bones Bones, whose not-very-enthusiastic article included by way of critical reception: "The band have been well received by one critic/part-time blogger/girl that accidentally stumbled upon a show once." JohnCD (talk) 00:27, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	You and Yunshui have been an extremely large help. If this hasn't all been forgotten about by the time both blocks have been lifted i'll get back in touch. CHCSPrefect (talk) 09:50, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you!

Possibly inappropriate material in a sandbox

G'day from Oz; I don't know whether this is a problem or not, but I see that this sandbox has been created, that may duplicate a page you deleted after you closed Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:AntonioMartin/Antonio Martin San Juan International Airport. YSSYguy (talk) 07:36, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you - deleted. JohnCD (talk) 16:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Toby Turner

Why the hell did you delete toby turners page twice, what is your reason for this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.110.39 (talk) 09:18, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toby Turner and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tobuscus. JohnCD (talk) 09:27, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

White hat (computer security) - help

After this was deleted at AFD, a user continued to add the name "Trishneet Arora" to White hat (computer security). After I reverted (and notified him), another IP has now deleted someone from the list. I was wondering if you could revert the removal, I believe I would be in violation of the 3RR if I do it. I'd also like your professional opinion - was I right reverting the addition in the first place? It was unsourced, and the list seems to be of people that have an encylopedia article. It seems to be turning into an edit war, don't want that. Cheers, Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 07:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

He is also listed on here. Would a removal be warranted? I'm really not to sure on either of them. Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 07:55, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, quite right, those lists are for people with articles. I have removed the other instance and reverted the unexplained IP removal. I see that TA's article has been deleted again and the title salted, and he has been pointed to Deletion review. JohnCD (talk) 17:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll add them to my watchlist. Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 17:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Wow, what a coincidence! I tried to revert the change to the whitehat hackers list at the exact time you did, got a conflict. I hope he soon stops adding himself to the list. Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 12:58, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I have taken him off List of Punjabi people as well and told him that WP is not for self-promotion. Some people don't give up easily... JohnCD (talk) 13:03, 22 October 2012 (UTC)