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New Page Review newsletter November 2019Edit

Hello Obi2canibe,

This newsletter comes a little earlier than usual because the backlog is rising again and the holidays are coming very soon.

Getting the queue to 0

There are now 712 holders of the New Page Reviewer flag! Most of you requested the user right to be able to do something about the huge backlog but it's still roughly less than 10% doing 90% of the work. Now it's time for action.
Exactly one year ago there were 'only' 3,650 unreviewed articles, now we will soon be approaching 7,000 despite the growing number of requests for the NPR user right. If each reviewer soon does only 2 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by every reviewer doing only 1 review every 2 days - that's only a few minutes work on the bus on the way to the office or to class! Let's get this over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.
Want to join? Consider adding the NPP Pledge userbox.
Our next newsletter will announce the winners of some really cool awards.

Coordinator

Admin Barkeep49 has been officially invested as NPP/NPR coordinator by a unanimous consensus of the community. This is a complex role and he will need all the help he can get from other experienced reviewers.

This month's refresher course

Paid editing is still causing headaches for even our most experienced reviewers: This official Wikipedia article will be an eye-opener to anyone who joined Wikipedia or obtained the NPR right since 2015. See The Hallmarks to know exactly what to look for and take time to examine all the sources.

Tools
  • It is now possible to select new pages by date range. This was requested by reviewers who want to patrol from the middle of the list.
  • It is now also possible for accredited reviewers to put any article back into the New Pages Feed for re-review. The link is under 'Tools' in the side bar.
Reviewer Feedback

Would you like feedback on your reviews? Are you an experienced reviewer who can give feedback to other reviewers? If so there are two new feedback pilot programs. New Reviewer mentorship will match newer reviewers with an experienced reviewer with a new reviewer. The other program will be an occasional peer review cohort for moderate or experienced reviewers to give feedback to each other. The first cohort will launch November 13.

Second set of eyes
  • Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work, especially while some routine tagging for deletion can still be carried out by non NPR holders and inexperienced users. Read about it at the Monitoring the system section in the tutorial. If you come across such editors doing good work, don't hesitate to encourage them to apply for NPR.
  • Do be sure to have our talk page on your watchlist. There are often items that require reviewers' special attention, such as to watch out for pages by known socks or disruptive editors, technical issues and new developments, and of course to provide advice for other reviewers.
Arbitration Committee

The annual ArbCom election will be coming up soon. All eligible users will be invited to vote. While not directly concerned with NPR, Arbcom cases often lead back to notability and deletion issues and/or actions by holders of advanced user rights.

Community Wish list

There is to be no wish list for WMF encyclopedias this year. We thank Community Tech for their hard work addressing our long list of requirements which somewhat overwhelmed them last year, and we look forward to a successful completion.


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ArbCom 2019 election voter messageEdit

 Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!Edit

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Theatres in Gampaha DistrictEdit

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Theatres in Gampaha District requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 02:40, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Cultural buildings in Gampaha DistrictEdit

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Cultural buildings in Gampaha District requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:15, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019Edit

 

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Gampaha District cultureEdit

 

A tag has been placed on Category:Gampaha District culture requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:43, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

CapitalizationEdit

Hi. I'm failing to understand your recent reverts of the moves at Second Susana Díaz government and Díaz Ayuso government. You only cite WP:NCCAPS, yet you fail to take into account that these are proper names. This is why, for example, People's Party and not "People's party", and Spanish Socialist Workers' Party but not "Spanish socialist workers' party". Further, these are capitalized in sources ([1] [2]), as well as the fact that most government articles throughout articles are capitalized due to the fact that they do not refer to a generic "government"-reference, but to the specific Government, as an institution, that was formed. Could you elaborate?

Then there is the issue of the number, though I acknowledge that sources and Wikipedia precedent are very diverse on this; however, in such a situation I believe that WP:CONCISE comes into action. Specially considering that when shown in infoboxes and templates those are referenced as "I" or "II" anyway. Impru20talk 19:26, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@Impru20: Although they may look like proper names for people who are not familiar with the English language, they are not and as such WP:NCCAPS applies. As for the numbering, the most common naming convention is to use the full ordinal number e.g. First not 1st or I. This is the convention used in most government articles: Fourth Merkel cabinet, Second Johnson ministry, Second Philippe government. I do though accept that there is inconsistency.--Obi2canibe (talk) 20:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
NCCAPS specifically calls for proper nouns to be capitalized. they may look like proper names for people who are not familiar with the English language, they are not The issue is that sources do capitalize them and treat them as proper names. Most Wikipedia articles do treat specific government councils & cabinets as proper names. Cabinets of most many English-language countries do treat them as proper names (i.e. Formation of Donald Trump's Cabinet, 29th Canadian Ministry, 31st Government of Ireland, Morrison Government/Second Morrison Ministry, Sixth Labour Government of New Zealand. That these are lower-cased for some countries does not mean that it is done correctly for those (indeed, some of those, such as Second Philippe government, were originally capitalized but unilaterally moved by one user).
As for the numbering, the most common naming convention is to use the full ordinal number There is not any naming convention on this. As a result, WP:NAMINGCRITERIA (should) apply. Most of the referenced articles would be in violation of these anyway, because of the reasons exposed, as the creation of cabinet articles is pretty much chaotic and disorderly: for example, Fourth Merkel cabinet uses "Fourth" rather than "IV" as you say, but then the article itself puts the original German-language name with the "IV". There is not any guideline-based reason as to why the full ordinal number is used. If you check the pages' historials, you'll see that all German cabinet articles were originally named as "Cabinet [Chancellor] [Roman numeral]". Then someone started creating the Merkel cabinets under different names, and in 2014 all others were moved to match the Merkel cabinets' format (rather than the other way around) without any significant discussion or consensus on the issue. I don't have time right now to check the others in full, but somehow I guess something similar may be happening in many of these. Impru20talk 20:17, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
@Impru20: The issue here is whether these count as proper names or not. If this can be sorted then it's easy to decide whether they should be capitalised or not. My own personal view is that they are not proper names but I have no strong views on this, my main aim is for consistency. I note that there is discussion at Talk:Conte II Cabinet on this issue - this discussion should be opened up so that we can get input from others and have a clear rule on this. cc @Ritchie92:. --Obi2canibe (talk) 22:40, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I think this issue is generic enough for it to be raised on Wikipedia talk:Article titles. --Ritchie92 (talk) 07:57, 21 January 2020 (UTC)