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This page lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

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  • Murder of Garrett Foster → Killing of Garrett Foster – (Discuss) – With Perry's pardon now official, it is best for the page to be moved to a different title. Per the pardon proclamation by Governor Abbott, it appears as though Perry is being pardoned because there is a belief he is not guilty of breaking the law. I disagree with assertions that this is merely a display of grace. It is true that grace is sometimes the reason for the issuance of a pardon, but it does not appear to be the case here. Keeping it as "Murder of Garrett Foster" is POV. Iamreallygoodatcheckers talk 22:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wirehead → Wirehead (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Looks like the primary topic. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Alleged sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – (Discuss) – I moved the page earlier today on the basis that I assumed that it would be "unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move" as of WP:RM. Apparently, and confusingly, this is not the case. I think it should be moved to an article title which explicitly expresses the uncertainty of the alleged sexual and gender-based violence. The article itself repeatedly uses the phrases "reportedly" and "alleged", as these are allegations, not facts. Israel has constantly lied throughout the war, and cannot be trusted as a reliable source, immediately casting doubt over any of the allegations they have made. The ARCCI report is frankly libel, and throughout the article there are multiple claims with no tangible proof whatsoever. The article should definitely highlight each and every quote from people making these allegations, as it just shows how ridiculous the premise is; "legs and pelvis bones were broken"? It's frankly astonishing that anyone would take these kinds of allegations seriously. If we are not referring to Israel's abhorrent attacks on the people of Gaza and the West Bank as "genocide", which it very clearly is, then why is this article given a name which implies that this is a fact that happened? With no actual evidence, are members of Hamas not "innocent until proven guilty"? With SO many photos and videos circulated of the atrocities committed, why is it that there is no footage of anything being claimed? Wikipedia is a bastion of knowledge in the world, but I am growing increasingly concerned that it is being used nefariously by zionists to skew coverage of the conflict to reflect Israeli views. It is well known that this kind of thing has happened in the past, it would not surprise me if it was still happening. We as Wikipedians need to stop this. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 21:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Autism spectrum → Autism – (Discuss) – This article is about the condition, not really the spectrum. I can't easily find any sources that say "Autism Spectrum" to refer to the condition instead of "Autism" or ASD/ASC. "Autism" also seems to be consistent with WP:PRECISION. A mentally disabled mathematician (talk) 17:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Template:Article history → Template:Page history – (Discuss) – This is not just for articles; it is for pages of various sorts (for example, it has parameters for old TFDs, MFDs, and featured portals). Thus, the current name is actively misleading. {{Page history}} does currently exist as a redirect to {{history}}. However, the redirect has only 11 uses which can easily be adjusted, and in general it is a silly redirect. I am not sure why you would want to use a "shortcut" which is literally the target page with additional text stuck on the beginning. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 16:35, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Musique(s) électronique(s) : les bruitistes et leur descendance → Musique(s) électronique(s) – (Discuss) – Common name in cited sources, and more concise. The suggested title already redirects to this topic. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Proton (technology company) → Proton AG – (Discuss) – Full company name. Simpler and more concise (WP:CONCISE). Allowed per WP:NCCORP. Strugglehouse (talk) 15:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Twitter → X (social network) – (Discuss) – The arguments presented in the talk page notice are not sufficient; such a supposition must be stated before I may present my arguments. Likewise, the previous discussions referenced do not adequately express the necessity of a move request. I believe this qualifies as both a "substantial new development", as references to "Twitter" now appear officially absent, and an objection to a previously and overwhelmingly considered argument. The argument that Twitter is the WP:COMMONNAME for the topic of this article is not well-supported, and the referenced articles above are not comparable. For instance, Kanye West is the name Ye chooses to perform under. The Washington Post lists several companies that have changed their name after becoming established. Though these examples often predate Wikipedia or occurred before the pages for these companies were made, it is not uncommon for a company to change its name or the name of its service; despite the strange decision, the usage of "Twitter" does not reflect self-references to Twitter or X by the company and an increasing acceptance towards "X". Though not infallible, Google Trend data suggests an acceptability towards X. Though there remains a significant usage of the term, I believe sufficient time has passed to support the claim that X may be used to a degree wide enough that—with consideration for official usage—this move request is supported. The term "X" has largely replaced "Twitter" in news articles where the service is not being referred to in the past, though "formerly known as Twitter" remains a common descriptor. This appears to be associated with a change in the AP Stylebook. help.x.com refers to "X Rules" and "X accounts", and twitter.com is now x.com, the reason why I have suggested this move; The Verge wrote "it's not Twitter anymore". In a personal account, many articles I edit where a person is quoted on the topic have increasingly referred to X, not Twitter. This move request is largely without precedent, but there exist instances where object within the real world have changed names, creating an inconsistency with colloquial references to said object. Willis Tower in Chicago is commonly referred to as Sears Tower because the tower had been known as that for 35 years. Similarly, Comiskey Park is known as Guaranteed Rate Field and formerly U.S. Cellular Field, but Chicago residents continue to refer to the field as "Comiskey". Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport is Washington National Airport to many. Name rights moves may be comparable in this circumstance, as they present a shift in colloquial terminology and official terminology that is reflected within Wikipedia to adhere to the present name of the field or building. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 13:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thunderbolts (film) → Thunderbolts* – (Discuss) – The official title for this film is Thunderbolts*, with the asterisk, as confirmed by Feige's announcement which is sourced in the article. It is not just marketing sylisation. While it is too early to confirm whether this or Thunderbolts is the WP:COMMONNAME, some news sources have been including the asterisk since the announcement and we can't rule out use increasing once marketing begins properly. More importantly, the asterisk provides WP:NATURAL disambiguation from Thunderbolts (which is a redirect to Thunderbolt) and Thunderbolts (comics). - adamstom97 (talk) 12:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Internet Information Services → Microsoft IIS – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMONNAME PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:23, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Intégrale : Institut d'enseignement supérieur privé → Intégrale – (Discuss) – or Intégrale prépa or Intégrale (cram school) or Intégrale (college entrance exam preparation school). The suffix of the title seems like more of a tagline or synonym than part of the institution's common name, and is especially unhelpful in English. It also seems improperly punctuated. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 12:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • James Read → James Read (actor) – (Discuss) – There are six men listed upon the James Read (disambiguation) page, with little indication that the septuagenarian supporting actor's renown has attained such heights as to overwhelm the combined notability of the remaining five men. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 12:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Guardian (Sydney, NSW : 1844) → The Guardian (1844 Australian newspaper) – (Discuss) – The current title has a strangely formatted disambiguator, and the proper title appears to include "The". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 11:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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References edit

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  1. ^ https://www.cfr.org/article/sunni-shia-divide#:~:text=Shias%2C%20a%20term%20that%20stems,succession%20based%20on%20Mohammed%27s%20bloodline.
  2. ^ https://www.history.com/news/sunni-shia-divide-islam-muslim
  3. ^ https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/11/Shias-Sunnis-religious-conflict-full-report.pdf
  4. ^ https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2007/02/12/7332087/the-origins-of-the-shiite-sunni-split
  5. ^ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16047709
  6. ^ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-sunni-shiite-divide-in-the-middle-east-is-about-nationalism-not-a-conflict-within-islam/
  7. ^ https://www.vox.com/2016/1/5/10718456/sunni-shia
  8. ^ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/06/18/the-sunni-shia-divide-where-they-live-what-they-believe-and-how-they-view-each-other/
  9. ^ https://www.npr.org/2007/02/12/7280905/chronology-a-history-of-the-shia-sunni-split
  10. ^ https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-27945271
  11. ^ https://www.fpri.org/article/2013/12/the-geopolitics-of-the-sunni-shii-divide-in-the-middle-east/
  12. ^ https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Other/15-F-0940_DOC_05_CSBA-LTSG_Sunni-Shia_Divide_Origins_Theology_Geopolitics_200701.pdf
  13. ^ https://origins.osu.edu/article/tradition-vs-charisma-sunni-shii-divide-muslim-world?language_content_entity=en
  14. ^ https://carnegie-mec.org/posts/2007/03/the-shia-sunni-divide-myths-and-reality?lang=en&center=middle-east
  15. ^ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346724893_Sunni-Shia_Division_in_Islam_Its_Origin_Development_Political_Socio-Economic_Implications_Contemporary_Relations
  16. ^ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/04/sunni-shia-sectarianism-middle-east-islam
  17. ^ https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691186610/sunnis-and-shia
  18. ^ https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/resrep03717.6.pdf
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