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New Page Review newsletter December 2019

 

Reviewer of the Year
 

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2020

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Whine

MedStudentUSA Why is a phrase connecting you to a different philosophy from a first philosophy bothering you? How hard is it to let go of a phrase? You have anything personal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MedStudentUSA (talkcontribs) 02:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

I have already left you two messages on your talk page warning you about edit warring. Multiple people disagree with you. Stop. Natureium (talk) 02:31, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Just so you know, I will not stop until you clearly give me a reason why that phrase hurts that article. People confuse osteopathic medicine with osteopathy all the ti,e. That confusion needs to be taken care of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MedStudentUSA (talkcontribs) 02:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter February 2020

 

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Administrators' newsletter – March 2020

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Sylvia Plath

I saw that you restored a recent change by an anonymous editor to this article, undoing my reversion with an edit comment that just said "stop". For at least a year, the article has said that Plath "died by suicide". The anon changed it to "committed", and I restored it to "died" per WP:STATUSQUO and, admittedly, my preference for the more direct and modern, and less euphemistic phrase. As far as I know Wikipedia has no policy or guideline requiring use of the euphemistic term, so I presume that, absent discussion, STATUSQUO is the advice to follow here. Pburka (talk) 00:15, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

This has been discussed on wikipedia many times; recently here. "Died by suicide" is the euphemism for the far more common and also neutral "committed suicide". Natureium (talk) 00:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Social distancing

 
Where chickens belong.

How does an image of raw chicken belong there? WP is not a place for comedy. The article is serious, the section talks about polio and you use a picture of chicken ("pollo" in Spanish). Please explain your revert. -- Alexf(talk) 02:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that totally serious discussion of polio [2] shouldn't be sidetracked by levity. EEng 03:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
How I see it, article space is not a place for comedy, but talk pages can use small bits of levity. You reverted EEng's addition as vandalism. I can understand if some saw his comment as disruptive, but it isn't vandalism, and seems pretty harmless to me. Natureium (talk) 03:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

"Stay the fuck home" listed at Redirects for discussion

 

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Stay the fuck home. Since you had some involvement with the Stay the fuck home redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Djm-leighpark (talk) 14:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

ITNC RD

I noticed you redacted an RD candicate who had died from COVID, saying there would be a lot of COVID deaths. I could understand if the article was miles from quality, but the article looked fine save one or two CNs. There's present no special handling of COVID yet, nor do we plan to give any special weight (extra or less) to COVID deaths, outside of how they may be presented in the box, so I'd recommend putting that back, I'd do it for you but I want to make sure you have the credit. --Masem (t) 15:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll put it back and see how it goes. Natureium (talk) 16:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Felt you'd appreciate this

Cutting strawberries with the little person but thought you'd need to see this: https://twitter.com/adam_harrison13/status/1244639011597156353 ~ Amory (utc) 20:17, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hahahaha that's amazing! Thanks, Amory. Natureium (talk) 20:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2020

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Where to respond

I've opened a section Reversion of criticism (Coronavirus). If you want to point to inclusion on a blacklist, that'd be fine. (I'm not familiar with all those controversies) Then I'll be motivated to find something else. But this is a current and very important topic, and quackishness needs pointing at.

I know the quote is:

"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."

but flip the boolean, as subject is stating it "isn't natural".

When someone says "this couldn't have come from nature" they demonstrate a lack of understanding of natural variety. The "it came from outer space" is merely a variant. Shenme (talk) 19:52, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I already responded on the talk page. This isn't something I feel is worth fighting for. Natureium (talk) 19:54, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thanks for all you do :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:) Thanks! Natureium (talk) 00:06, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Block me

 
You know a great place to take a lunch break? Costco. Their hot food is known for being cheap but still good. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

You are thinking of blocking me?!? - Chris.sherlock (talk) 16:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

It was a demonstration of the pointlessness of blocking threats by non-admins. I think it might be time for you to take a lunch break for a few hours. Natureium (talk) 16:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC) I see you're in Australia. Get some sleep and come back to this in the morning. Natureium (talk) 16:57, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
By my thinking and knowing Natureium I think it's a joke. Hence the inclusion of the nac template. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
So threatening comments are a big joke to you all. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 16:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Chris.sherlock, of course not. And I'm sorry if my attempt at humor didn't hit the spot. You have a lot of experienced editors, some of whom I would hope you could trust to have your best interests at heart, telling you that this isn't a threat in the normal sense. I'd hoped that perhaps a dash of humor might help when that sage counsel didn't work and I'm sorry it didn't. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
It’s not your fault. I’m holding on by a thread at the moment. I’m lucid enough to know it, but not well enough to keep holding on. It’s a bad place to be. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 17:03, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Chris.sherlock, I'm sorry to hear that. Know that I am sending you thoughts of peace. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:10, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Mass messages

Can only be sent via mass message bot. If you want it, ask Kevin nicely. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Don't tell me what I can and can't do. Natureium (talk) 04:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
🇦🇺 TonyBallioni (talk) 04:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Is that a block threat? I'm not intimidated by your ability to disappear me entirely from Wikipedia. Natureium (talk) 04:09, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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Whatcha doing, Natureium? – bradv🍁 23:35, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Someone put some BEANS in my head. Natureium (talk) 23:36, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

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False information on Wikipedia response to coronavirus page

Why do you insist on falsity? Is your political correctness agenda worth having false, dishonest, and historically revisionist information on a Wikipedia article, falsely claiming that the original 2019-20 coronavirus pandemic "created on 5 January 2020" was entitled "2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak" when, in fact, it was entitled "2019-2020 China pneumonia outbreak" as my sourced, truthful edit pointed out?

Is this how to welcome a new person to Wikipedia - by reverting their first edit correcting an implicit, verifiable falsehood? Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic&oldid=934259284

Do you think insisting upon this kind of combative campaign of misinformation is healthy to the reputation of Wikipedia?

73.61.21.181 (talk) 03:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Why are you so upset about a minor issue? That was the title of the article until it was moved on February 18. Natureium (talk) 03:32, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2020

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Incomplete DYK nomination

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This

"I was told this was a business casual event." This seriously cracked me up. Thanks. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:49, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

It really is a great line. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:03, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
It's a good line, but the placement in this case was exceptional and unexpected, leading to many laughs.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
It was a tough decision between an appropriate suiting joke and a administratorial sleep schedule joke. Natureium (talk) 03:34, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Jaqui Wood

Thanks for catching my Jacqui Wood mistake. I was planning on working on expanding her bio in my sandbox area and thought I was on my own user page. Time to quit for the day! MauraWen (talk) 00:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Lol I was just about to leave you a talk page message asking if you meant to do that. Natureium (talk) 00:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

 

Thanks for your work in creating new articles like Judy Lieberman.

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Suzanne Walker.

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2020

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  • A motion was passed to enact a 500/30 restriction on articles related to the history of Jews and antisemitism in Poland during World War II (1933–45), including the Holocaust in Poland. Article talk pages where disruption occurs may also be managed with the stated restriction.

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DYK for Clinical trial naming conventions

On 2 June 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clinical trial naming conventions, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that TORPEDO, BATMAN, CASANOVA, ATLANTIS, and ISIS are all names of clinical trials? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clinical trial naming conventions. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Clinical trial naming conventions), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020

 

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Your help can make a difference

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Your kind of cafe

https://twitter.com/elbeardsley/status/1273578216498831360 ~ Amory (utc) 12:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

<3 Natureium (talk) 14:22, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

A beer for you!

  Thanks for your edits on episiotomy. Cheers! UltravioletAlien (talk) 22:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2020

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Hey

Hey Nat, haven't seen you on IRC for a while so I wanted to drop you a note. Hope everything's going okay for you. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:35, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi muppett. Thanks for stopping by. I'm just limiting my internet in hopes of being less cynical. Natureium (talk) 03:10, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2020

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Creating physician-scientist BLPs

Hi Natureium, I know you've are part of WikiProject Medicine and have collaborated with my former collegues in the past. I have a COI with Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center and its faculties, but have an interest to improve some of the physician-scientist biographies that work for the organization. Here are a few exapmles of articles I'm proposing for improvement or creation.

Do you have any interest to collaborate on projects like this?--Chefmikesf (talk) 23:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm not on Wikipedia very often right now, but if there's something specifically (like edit requests I guess) I'll probably get to it eventually. Natureium (talk) 20:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello Natureium, that totally makes sense. I put some thought into your suggestions, then determined Scott W. Lowe's article updates are fairly minor. I added clear edit request formatted suggestions on his article's talk page. Could you take a look at the suggested edits and let me know if this is what you had in mind?--Chefmikesf (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
No problem. I added most of what you had there. If you'd like additional help, WP:EDITREQ also has directions for using a template that will put the page in a category of articles with requested edits that other people go through. Natureium (talk) 21:38, 4 August 2020 (UTC)