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User: Prospectorminerals/sandbox deletetionEdit

I was wondering why User: Prospectorminerals/sandbox page was deleted. It was clearly not with "malicious" intentions nor a "hoax", but rather experimentation. Prospectorminerals (talk) 05:53, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Prospectorminerals, the information in that sandbox was fictional and provided no benefit to the encyclopedia. I'd be happy to email it to you if you like, provided you find another website to host it. – bradv🍁 05:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia allows users to experiment in their user Sandbox to gain experience in editing templates. It does benefit the encyclopedia because I can use my experience gained from editing sandbox towards real climate graphs on articles. Also, it is unlikely that visitors would mistake this for legitimate information. Prospectorminerals (talk) 00:12, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


Can you please intervene here? The same behavior is ongoing in spite of an open RfC that was called for this exact issue. The other editor in question refuses to engage via the community discussion or abide by WP:BRD, so I'm at a loss here. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:14, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Koavf, I presume you're talking about Talk:Wanted For Life? You mention an RfC about these talk page redirects - where is it? – bradv🍁 20:20, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Bradv, and The conversation that was posted as an RfC grew from the 3RR discussion that Rich himself wanted me to start a few weeks ago, you can see it here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council#RfC_about_tagging_redirects. I've solicited his feedback multiple times and he has yet to give it. I've asked him to refrain from editing like this until the RfC is closed but he also refuses. See my talk page archives for more background. I don't see a lot of value in edit-warring and I'd like for the RfC to close with some clear consensus before this goes on any further but I'm really stuck here. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:27, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Koavf, I am of the opinion that talk pages of redirects serve no use, and should be redirected to the talk page of the target. I'm not sure what the point is of these tags, and I really don't understand why people are edit warring about them. I may weigh in on the RfC, but I think we may need something broader - this isn't just about WikiProjects. – bradv🍁 20:33, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Bradv, That's fine--if others don't see value in my edits or don't agree with my preferences, that doesn't hurt my feelings. The problem is just the edit-warring and the frankly abusive language, if you see my talk archive. This is not an appropriate way to act and nothing constructive is coming from this, so something needs to happen (other than a war of attrition). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:41, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Koavf, so since I've never come across this before, let me ask you: What is the encyclopedic purpose of these tagged redirects? Was there a discussion somewhere that led to people doing this? – bradv🍁 20:44, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Bradv, I personally find it useful for knowing what the contents of the encyclopedia are. I don't know of any imperative to tag redirects, just that hundreds of thousands of them are (Category:Redirect-Class articles). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:54, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Koavf, I think that category should have precisely zero pages in it. It already has zero articles in it. It's pointless. – bradv🍁 04:16, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Bradv, That category is empty, of course but its subcategories have hundreds of thousands of things tagged. If you think those shouldn't be tagged, that's a fine thing to bring to comment. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:18, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Koavf, yes, they're also pointless. – bradv🍁 04:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Bradv, Sounds like you have a valuable perspective to give at the RfC. If the community at large decides to stop tagging redirects, then I will too. Otherwise, it's the wild west and some weird battle of wills to remove talk page tags and blank them is not accomplishing anything positive. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:23, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Koavf, FYI, adding |class=redirect gets undone by EnterpriseyBot Task 10. Here's the bot request from 2017. – Levivich 02:55, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Brad, as this whole discussion is about me I thought I should poke my nose in. I am only going to show one edit, after you closed the edit warring report by Koavf with your advice of This is dumb. How about just redirecting the talk page like we do for all other redirects? In any case, No violation. I then followed your advice and redirected to a relevant page, Koafv immediately readded the project tags, this proves he wasn't prepared to listen to you, he doesn't listen or discuss with me (and this has been going on for several years over various subjects) and thinks he is above WP. If you can be bothered, I have re-opened the discussion at Koavf's user page, his response is telling.--Richhoncho (talk) 09:18, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2019Edit

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).

  Guideline and policy news

  • Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

  Technical news

  • As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.



  • The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:54, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

DS alert templateEdit

Hey, in this edit you made the DS template produce a list of DS topics, which is good, but I've just noticed it looks...incomplete compared to what's contained in the template. The September 11 attacks are listed in the template code, for example, but aren't showing up in the list. E-cigs is another one that is in the code but not on the list (and I can't see that either is rescinded). I don't want to go mucking about in there trying to fix it; could you have a look at it? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:00, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Premeditated Chaos, it looks like the list of topics for display is out of sync with the actual template code. I can work on cleaning this up in the next day or two. – bradv🍁 05:11, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, no rush or anything, I just don't know how to fix it myself. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:27, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Premeditated Chaos, oh I didn't do anything fancy. I just made the template transclude itself so you can see what it would display without having to set up a sandbox. The displayed list of topics is maintained separately from the actual list of parameters in the code. But yes, I can go through the active DS areas and make sure that both lists are up to date and in sync with each other. – bradv🍁 05:29, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
That's awesome, thank you for that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:23, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

User scriptEdit

Hi Bradv,

I have a problem with your user script User:Bradv/Scripts/Superlinks. It doesn't show the flowchart button on the links. Can you fix that please? I'm using Firefox and Windows 10.

Thank you,

Interstellarity (talk) 17:16, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, the developers, in their infinite wisdom, decided to change the capitalization of one of the config variables. Please let me know if it works for you now. – bradv🍁 17:29, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Bradv, Thanks for your help. It works. Interstellarity (talk) 17:30, 4 October 2019 (UTC)


Hi! Just seen your anti-vandalism activities (recent changes). Given that I am not familiar with the procedures here, would you mind having a look here? Most of them are live edits as of now. Thank you in advance, UnaToFiAN-1 (talk) 05:15, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

UnaToFiAN-1, those edits are a few weeks old. I wouldn't block as the disruption is not ongoing, and chances are that IP is no longer being used by the same person. Vandalism in progress should be reported to AIV. – bradv🍁 05:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for your advice. AIV is the place to go for such cases then. For the time being I am simply going to remove these edits. Cheers -- UnaToFiAN-1 (talk) 05:34, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Message about Fictional ClimatesEdit

Why are you deleting sandboxes and userpages, or even removing the tables of talkpages that have climate data? Its been since the awful day of August 27, And also, Why are you continuing to delete those climate data tables, They make you creative. MVN1717 (talk) 12:33, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I have not deleted anything of yours, so I'm not sure why you're asking. But Wikipedia is not a free hosting service for content unrelated to writing an encyclopedia. – bradv🍁 15:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Im just wondering. But i know Wikipedia is not a web host, But these fictional climate stuff are allowed on a different website such as Excel, Google Sheets, a different wiki with the wikibox . MVN1717 (talk) 15:12, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
MVN1717, sure, there are plenty of websites that do allow information like this. You could even go to and set up your own wiki specifically for storing fictional climate data. – bradv🍁 15:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you! MVN1717 (talk) 15:25, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 9Edit

Message from DmehusEdit

Hi Bradv, I noticed something unusual while updating redirect page Jimmy Pattison to a disambiguation page. Apparently, it was formerly the page for the Canadian billionaire businessman and philanthropist, Jim Pattison, except a cut-and-paste move was done that subverted the normal page move process. I think the disambiguation page I created was useful because Jimmy Pattison arguably refers to the businessman equally, if not more than, the American baseball player (Jimmy Pattison (baseball)), but now the Talk page for Jimmy Pattison refers to the Jim Pattison. Is there a manual clean-up you can do to transfer that Talk page to Jim Pattison? Also, if you can mark Jimmy Pattison as reviewed, that'd be great. --Doug Mehus (talk) 14:18, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Reply I added an even more friendly version of the level 1 notice on the user's Talk page, as I thought that might be helpful. --Doug Mehus (talk) 14:45, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Reply I should add that I think the move was ultimately constructive and that it went 13 years without notice, and, by extension, opposition. So, I think the move was probably a good one, just as creating the disambiguation page was. It was constructive; now we just need cleanup on the Talk page. --Doug Mehus (talk) 14:55, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Message from DmehusEdit

Hi Brad,

I noticed that we've PCock and I have reverted vandalism to User:Joseph A. Spadaro's excellent editing re: Tate murders. Do we need to go through a formal process to block the IP user, who is obviously not here to build an encyclopedia?

I am being harassedEdit

Please see User_talk:Koavf#Talk:7″_single. Can you intervene here? I do not deserve this abuse and have told him repeatedly to stop. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:47, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Message from Toandanel49Edit

I am working to improve the article on Dr. Rafael Rebolo ( ) I am bilingual English/Spanish so I plan to add the same references in Spanish Wikipedia. Can you take a look at it? Toandael49 (talk) 20:43, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Superlinks scriptEdit

I have recently changed my skin to Timeless. I saw the note at the bottom of the documentation that it only works in the Vector skin, but I would like it to work in the skin that I'm currently using. Can you make that happen? Interstellarity (talk) 23:19, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:BMW 3 Series (E36)Edit

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:BMW 3 Series (E36). Legobot (talk) 04:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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