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For some reason, I got a 503 error and then "this article does not exist" when I tried the link you provided at DGG's talk page. I ran a search for "American Theatre of Actors" in the Daily Herald and got one article: "New York theater named after stage and TV actor John Cullum". I hope this is the article you found.

I appreciate the feedback on my initial sources. I'll look for additional sources along the lines of the Daily Herald. Vyeh (talk) 20:58, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@Vyeh: Sorry you had trouble but yes that's the article I'd found. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
@Barkeep49: I found [1]. About a third of the way, the review states:

In its former home Off Broadway, the American Theater of Actors, a warehouse-like room on the second floor of a midtown building with 135 seats on risers, I found Urinetown audacious and exhilarating, riotously and intelligently arch. And my intention was to assess how well the show has accommodated its step up in physical dimensions (at 635 seats, the Henry Miller is far bigger, though far from Broadway big) and also to assess the visibility that its notoriety and success have engendered.

There is a discussion comparing the ATA production to the Broadway production.
I'd appreciate it very much if you would read the source. Are the Daily Herald source and this New York Times source enough to establish notability for ATA? Thank you. Vyeh (talk) 14:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
A brief mention like that can be used for sourcing but doesn't help establish notability. I think you should consider creating the page. I can tell you with what I've found I think it's likely notable and wouldn't nominate it for deletion. However since I haven't seen sourcing that really gets at NCORP yet either I also wouldn't mark it as reviewed if I came across it at WP:NPP.
@Barkeep49: Thank you. What sourcing should I search for that gets at NCORP? I notice an option that if I save an article in my sandbox, I can have it reviewed by an experienced editor. Are you familiar with this avenue and its advantages and disadvantages? Thank you for your assistance. Vyeh (talk) 00:23, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
@Vyeh: I would not recommend going the AfC route. I would look for sources that talk at length about ATA. How to do that is up to you - obviously searching newspaper archives is frequently a good place. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

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Incomplete DYK nominationEdit

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Next steps on Minneapolis MiracleEdit

Hey Barkeep49, I hope you're enjoying your time out of town! Just wanted to know what my next steps should be for the Minneapolis Miracle GA nomination. In particular, if you think that making it about the game rather than just the play is necessary to reach GA status, what changes would be needed? How in depth would I have to go in describing the game – drive by drive? I just want to strike the right balance between achieving sufficient breadth and not just listing every set of downs. Thank you for all your help so far – I really want to see this one through, and I appreciate the amount of time and attention you've given this project. Best, Lamblings (talk) 14:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Lamblings

@Lamblings: Thanks for the message. I am catching up after my time away. I don't think a PBP chart is necessary but suggest incorporating elements from the other notable plays I've mentioned before that seem useful. The one that I can remember off the top of my head would be incorporating who the officiating crew was would be one helpful set of information. There are likely to be other good elements from those pages as well that would help flesh that out. You've done a lot of work on this page and your determination to see it out is a credit to you and a benefit to the encyclopedia. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:37, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
@Barkeep49: Your kind words are greatly appreciated! I made a number of improvements, including: changing the opening of the article to reflect the shift in focus from the play to the game; adding additional content to the game summary; and adding the starting lineups and officials. Should you deem it necessary, I can keep looking at other famous football play/game pages for further inspiration. Best, Lamblings (talk) 20:34, 6 October 2018 (UTC)Lamblings
@Lamblings: response left on review page. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:09, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Marlon Bundo's A Day in the Life of the Vice PresidentEdit

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2018 World SeriesEdit

Excuse me, but we were not allowed to move this draft until we received actual approval by a page mover, and your decision to move the page is in violation of those terms... –Piranha249 00:16, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

@Piranha249: I'm not sure that was true but in any case I have AfC, NPP, and Page Mover PERMS and in fact used my Page Mover perms to do the move. Are you concerned the topic is not yet notable or just concerned about procedure? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Marlon Bundo's A Day in the Life of the Vice PresidentEdit

The article Marlon Bundo's A Day in the Life of the Vice President you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Marlon Bundo's A Day in the Life of the Vice President for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Auldhouse -- Auldhouse (talk) 17:41, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Original Barnstar
Thanks for helping on IRC. I'll let you know if it works. RhinosF1 (talk) 19:50, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Can you check my talk page to see why archive box still says no archives yet as there is one.RhinosF1 (talk) 19:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
@RhinosF1: I attempted to fix the formatting and you needed the archivebox=yes parameter. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Are the apostrophes around the archive name normal? RhinosF1 (talk) 20:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
@RhinosF1: No. I edited them out going forward but didn't move the existing page. Feel free to do so.
Thanks for all the help, I've corrected all the archives now and cluebot is updating the index. Thanks again, RhinosF1 (talk) 18:07, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

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Minneapolis Miracle NPOVEdit

Hey, I made some more NPOV fixes. If there are any areas that still need work, let me know – otherwise, I think I've done almost all I can for the page. Thank you for your help throughout! Best, Lamblings (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2018 (UTC)Lamblings

List of British Isles mountains by prominenceEdit

Hi Barkeep49. Would you mind reverting your redirect of this article. I made them both for an overhaul and update of the British Isles mountain lists. They may have the same format , and share some peaks, but they are very different official definitions of a mountain, and now linked to by other British Isle articles on mountain definitions. Even though they both allow sorting by height and prominence, because their definitions are different, the rankings of where mountains appear are also very different (hence why we need two articles). Other duplicate articles are being deleted and redirected for these as part of a clean up of the definitions of British Isles mountain articles. Thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 21:59, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@Britishfinance: I understand that the two topics are different and thus the rankings would be but is there a reason that the mountains themselves would be different? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:02, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
oh yes, to qualify on the prominence list, you can have any prominence, but to qualify on the height list, you much have a prominence over 30 m. There are lots of really high Scottish mountains with small prominences that are on one list, and not the other. It causes big debates. The two different definitions used in the two lists cover neatly the two main criteria that are used when ranking mountains. Thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 22:14, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curatedEdit

Hi, I'm Vexations. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Whitney Woerz, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Vexations (talk) 22:41, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

@Vexations: Guessing you saw the recent AfD too? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I was going through a list of unreviewed articles that had previous AfDs, saw the keep result and marked as reviewed before I noticed you had also reviewed it minutes earlier. I don't think there a way to rollback errors like that. I would have used that if I could. Vexations (talk) 22:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
No worries Vexations I had just gone through that queue myself. Handy new sort options I think. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:51, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
I was using my own query Were you using the NewPagesFeed? Vexations (talk) 22:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
@Vexations: I was. Once a page is tagged with any kind of deletion it stays in that queue until dealt with. Useful for finding closed AfDs as well as some other issues. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:02, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Redirected pagesEdit

Hey there barkeep. I'm a bit confused as to why you redirected the pages i made on Boom Boom Satellites. Since you never wrote anything to me explaining why i'd very much like answer. Edotion (talk) 09:12, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@Edotion: Sorry for any confusion. I found the articles while doing new page patrol. I redirected those articles because I saw no indication in the articles of how they were notable especially in regards to WP:NALBUM. I hope that helps. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

James Crawford (American football)Edit

I have added two more sources and built out the article a little more. I generally try to create pages for NFL players once they appear in an NFL game or at least are promoted to the active roster to ensure notability and then build out the pages as I can. What is a good rule of thumb going forward to ensure that the page is stable? Best, GPL93 (talk) 15:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

@GPL93: There's certainly nothing wrong with doing an initial stub for players and building out from there. In general I think once you've gotten to 3-4 RS soruces (as you do now at Crawford) you can safely remove the refimprove tag. Given that players who've appeared in games will pass WP:GRIDIRON the pages should be "stable" in that they should be marked as reviewed by new page patrol. Does that answer your question? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:58, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Yes it does. Thanks for the help. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:20, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Help out with the article.Edit

If you'd like to help out with the Stars of Space Jam Article, you can help make edits to it. :) --DukeyDukeyDoo (talk) 04:31, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

@DukeyDukeyDoo: Thanks for the invitation. I found the article through new page patrol. It was an unusual case given both its topic and article history and one of borderline notability but I think on the correct side hence why I marked it as reviewed but added the tags I did. While I don't plan to edit it actively myself I wish you the best of luck and do appreciate your personally reaching out. Thanks and Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Shuto ConEdit

Hello Barkeep49. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Shuto Con, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: multiple notable attendees and coverage in RS indicates significance. Thank you. SoWhy 07:24, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Article reviewedEdit

@Barkeep49: Hi, I thank you for reviewing my article. I understand that it has some deficiencies in necessary citations. However, if there are any other aspects of the article other than citations that need to be improved upon, could you please convey them to me. Cheers --Politicoindian (talk) 19:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

@Politicoindian: Overall I thought it was in good shape. Obviously having more to say about its activities was useful but honestly I didn't have tons to think about with that particular article. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:54, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

2017–18 Lille OSC seasonEdit

@Barkeep49 What would be involved in getting this article renamed to 2018–19 Lille OSC season ? Something automated didn't seem to appreciate that a season was being skipped on Lille's season pages and renamed the page, from what I can gather. Or maybe I just mangled the page name. Thanks for any and all guidance.  EclecticArkie  (talk) 02:58, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

@EclecticArkie: Fixed. I feel silly for not catching it in the first place. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:32, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
@Barkeep49 Many thanks for the quick response. Now it's time to find more in-depth references. Cheers!  EclecticArkie  (talk) 04:07, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

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